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'Prism, Prism on the Wall, Who is the Most Trustworthy of Them All?' Huawei Hits Back at US Over 5G Security Claims (zdnet.com)
The tension between Huawei and the U.S. government took a new turn Tuesday after the Chinese networking giant's rotating chairman Guo Ping poked fun at the massive surveillance programs maintained by the United States. "Prism, prism on the wall, who's the most trustworthy of them all?" Ping said onstage at Mobile World Congress tradeshow. From a report: Ping first appeared to attempt to make light of the ongoing row -- "There has never been more interest in Huawei, we must be doing something right," he said -- but later took a more direct aim at the US and some of its own issues with cybersecurity and surveillance. "Prism, Prism on the wall, who is the most trustworthy of them all?" he said, referencing the previously secret National Security Agency surveillance project, telling the audience to ask Edward Snowden -- the whistleblower who revealed the activity -- if they didn't understand what he meant. Ping also took aim at the US Cloud Act, arguing that the legislation allows the US government to demand access data held by US companies, even if it is stored in different countries. "The Cloud Act allows them to access data cross-borders. So for best technology and for greater security, please choose Huawei," he said.
The implication is that because NSA does data collection that somehow Huawei isn't an IP thief, fraud, espionage tentacle wholly owned by the Chinese Communist Party, an adversary that seeks military conflict with the US.
As much as I was dismayed by PRISM (12 years ago when I first found out about it right?) I don't see how this addresses Huawei's frauds or thefts or espionage for China ongoing.
https://www.businessinsider.com/second-huawei-employee-arrested-in-poland-on-suspicion-of-china-spying-2019-1
It's also not just the USA that noticed.
I am always assuming that I am being spied upon. However in America the first Amendment prevents me from being put in jail from my viewpoints, just as long as I am not using my speech intentionally hurt people. Also if content was released about me, that has only happened via my own government spying on me, then I have recourse against it. China doesn't have such advantages to its citizens.
I am not saying what America is doing is good, or the right thing to do. But at least I have some power and rights from it.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Ive said this before and will likely have to say it again. If you use American tech, the Americans have access to your data. If you use Russian tech, the Americans and the Russians have access to your data. If you use Chinese tech the Americans, Russians, Chinese and everyones pet gerbil has access to your data. Its comical to live in a fantasy world where there is privacy. The only choice you have is who has access to your data.
There's more to criticize about the US' prison system!?
China is a country that regularly disappears people and is currently trying to break a minority population through mass incarceration for reasons no civilized country would prosecute some one for.
On top of that, China's system lacks so much transparency we have to go with international estimates on what's going on with their prison system.
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Not only is that false, as someone else pointed out, but even the nugget of truth there is misleading. The US doesn't incarcerate more people per capita because of government corruption or the silencing of dissidents. It is mostly because of dumb drug laws, harsh sentencing of actual criminals (arguably also dumb), lack of effort around rehabilitation, and income inequality / segregation.
Total number of people in prison, or per capita figures, don't paint an accurate picture when comparing the US and Chinese governments. It is like comparing a poor starving person with someone on a diet. They may both be hungry but for very different reasons.
-- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke
"The bottom line is that an American is four times more likely to be incarcerated than a Chinese citizen."
I don't really feel that's the bottom line. I feel like the bottom line is that in this country we have guaranteed rights. They might not function as well as they should but they're a hell of a lot better than what a Chinese person has. When Americans are regularly made to disappear by the government for minor infractions or simply because of things they say, get back to me.
"If you are rotting in prison, the fact that America's system is transparently unjust, so everyone knows about the high false conviction rate, and the defects of our plea bargain based courts, doesn't really mean much, so long as people don't care about the injustice."
So a fucked system that is transparent is worse than a fucked one that isn't? You're not making sense here.
"So who doesn't care? Apparently you, since you would prefer to point to the other side of the world than address bigger problems here at home that we have the collective power to fix."
If you can't make a sound argument based on what some one has said then put words in their mouth! Good work!
How does me thinking the Chinese prison system is more fucked than ours mean that I don't think we should be working on our own? You're full of it.
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WHAT IT IS USED FOR is the key
Yeah, like these usages are entirely acceptable, since they are done by the GREATEST NATION on earth.
ONE MILLION UIGHURS IN CHINESE PRISONS.
Wow, what a change of heart for Americans! We are suddenly having real empathy about Muslims, as long as they are not being locked up in Guantanamo.
The Chief of INTERPOL for chrissake was arrested and secretly detained for MONTHS without being charged.
Wow, another change of heart for a top Chinese security official who supposedly have done, well because he was the top police chief, all the political crimes such as "disappear dissidents, undesirable ethnicities, journalists, etc."