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'Prism, Prism on the Wall, Who is the Most Trustworthy of Them All?' Huawei Hits Back at US Over 5G Security Claims (zdnet.com)
The tension between Huawei and the U.S. government took a new turn Tuesday after the Chinese networking giant's rotating chairman Guo Ping poked fun at the massive surveillance programs maintained by the United States. "Prism, prism on the wall, who's the most trustworthy of them all?" Ping said onstage at Mobile World Congress tradeshow. From a report: Ping first appeared to attempt to make light of the ongoing row -- "There has never been more interest in Huawei, we must be doing something right," he said -- but later took a more direct aim at the US and some of its own issues with cybersecurity and surveillance. "Prism, Prism on the wall, who is the most trustworthy of them all?" he said, referencing the previously secret National Security Agency surveillance project, telling the audience to ask Edward Snowden -- the whistleblower who revealed the activity -- if they didn't understand what he meant. Ping also took aim at the US Cloud Act, arguing that the legislation allows the US government to demand access data held by US companies, even if it is stored in different countries. "The Cloud Act allows them to access data cross-borders. So for best technology and for greater security, please choose Huawei," he said.
PRISM has several techniques you can use to escape. most are FLOSS. https://prism-break.org/
Good people go to bed earlier.
https://www.networkworld.com/article/2223272/60-minutes-torpedoes-huawei-in-less-than-15-minutes.html
I sure hope the (US) politicians can potentially learn from this. On so many levels, this is what they created in their ignorance and arrogance. DiFi, you are the worst on this... it is your own constituents you have hurt.
You nexus, huh? I design you eyes!
The US government AND Huawei AND china have one thing in common:
THEY ALL SUCK!
Ive said this before and will likely have to say it again. If you use American tech, the Americans have access to your data. If you use Russian tech, the Americans and the Russians have access to your data. If you use Chinese tech the Americans, Russians, Chinese and everyones pet gerbil has access to your data. Its comical to live in a fantasy world where there is privacy. The only choice you have is who has access to your data.
You have no re-course against the spying. Re-course is not inter-course. Being screwed does not help, aid, or fight anything.
Given that you lied about such things as blood plasma, I'll go with the UN. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-rights-un/u-n-says-it-has-credible-reports-that-china-holds-million-uighurs-in-secret-camps-idUSKBN1KV1SU
U.N. has credible reports that China holds million Uighurs in secret camps
The bottom line is that you lied and claimed that the Chinese prison system is knowable to outsiders and the legal system is comparable to the US, where innocence until proven guilt w/ lawyers, evidence is the norm.
The bottom line is you lied about blood plasma being sterile more than anyone could count, so convinced your lying ass was right, even though it's 100% false.
The bottom line is the UN says there are credible reports of well over 1 million Uighurs (no mention of other groups, that's just 1) in SECRET PRISONS in China without crimes or convictions of them.
The bottom line, Bill, is you're a blathering liar in defense of an autocratic ethno-state criminal cabal credibly accused of crimes against humanity, and you're dishonestly trying to use whattaboutism to deflect.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-rights-un/u-n-says-it-has-credible-reports-that-china-holds-million-uighurs-in-secret-camps-idUSKBN1KV1SU
U.N. has credible reports that China holds million Uighurs in secret camps
The bottom line : The people in US prisons actually face trials. You're an apologist coward, Bill. You belong in a Chinese prison, bottom line.
The USA stole IP. They spy on everyone and, unlike China, worldwide. And there's no difference between claiming China owns a company and the USA where the government does what the government wants. The USA government and USA corporations are identical creatures, just as with your claim about china.
"The bottom line is that an American is four times more likely to be incarcerated than a Chinese citizen."
I don't really feel that's the bottom line. I feel like the bottom line is that in this country we have guaranteed rights. They might not function as well as they should but they're a hell of a lot better than what a Chinese person has. When Americans are regularly made to disappear by the government for minor infractions or simply because of things they say, get back to me.
"If you are rotting in prison, the fact that America's system is transparently unjust, so everyone knows about the high false conviction rate, and the defects of our plea bargain based courts, doesn't really mean much, so long as people don't care about the injustice."
So a fucked system that is transparent is worse than a fucked one that isn't? You're not making sense here.
"So who doesn't care? Apparently you, since you would prefer to point to the other side of the world than address bigger problems here at home that we have the collective power to fix."
If you can't make a sound argument based on what some one has said then put words in their mouth! Good work!
How does me thinking the Chinese prison system is more fucked than ours mean that I don't think we should be working on our own? You're full of it.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Hamza_al-Masri - don't lie casually - you will be caught and convicted of it.
Ab amzah al-Mar – literally, the Egyptian father of Hamza), the Hook Hand or simply Abu Hamza, is an Egyptian cleric who was the imam of Finsbury Park Mosque in London, England, *** --- where he preached Islamic fundamentalism and militant Islamism. --- ***
In 2004, Hamza was arrested by British police after the United States requested he be extradited to face charges. He was later charged by British authorities with sixteen offences for inciting violence and racial hatred.[3] In 2006, a British court found him guilty of inciting violence, and sentenced him to seven years' imprisonment. On 5 October 2012, after an eight-year legal battle, he was extradited from the UK to the United States to face terrorism charges[4][5] and on 14 April 2014 his trial began in New York.[6] On 19 May 2014, Hamza was found guilty of eleven terrorism charges by a federal jury in Manhattan. On 9 January 2015, he was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.[7]
So he was charged, accused with evidence, faced a jury ostensibly of American citizens, and convicted. Saying he's guilty of "free speech" is not factual.
One of the very few restrictions on speech is to restrict direct threats or inciting of violence against people. All your other claims are also absurd.
Legally definition does not equate to reality, and more often is an attempt to hide reality
Wow that's so hard to believe that many Americans don't support American values outside of American borders? Is it really so crazy to think of some of us might understand the concept of jurisdiction.
Which Chicom insider stole it all?
You're an apologist coward, Bill. You belong in a Chinese prison, bottom line.
Actually, he might be an employee just doing his job as directed. The logic that it is okay to jail only a million people without trial because 'Murrica bad! is just ludicrous.
Yeah, America jails too many people. This was the result of three major things. Thig one was the "get tough on crime" movement, the victim's right's movement, and the for profit prison system. All were intertwined.
The biggest problem of making the prison system a profit center is that like all corporate entities, you have to make more profit the next quarter. And there are limits to how cheaply you can maintain prisoners, so the answer is to make sure you have more prisoners in prison for a longer time.
For that, the magic elixir of the outrageous mandatory penalties for non-crime crimes like weed possession, the three strikes rules that could put a person in prison for life for silly things like shoplifting food, and the ability of the victims to keep a person in prison based on how they feel.
I can be sympathetic to the victims, but the rest of those assholes should be the ones behind bars.
But here's the thing - it isn't a crime for me to express that opinion. Bill should try some pointed criticism at the Chinese government - calling them assholes that belong in prison.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
The logic that it is okay to jail only a million people without trial because 'Murrica bad! is just ludicrous.
I never said any such thing.
The fact that innocent people in China are unjustly imprisoned is wrong.
The fact that innocent people in America are unjustly imprisoned is also wrong.
By pointing out that America is proportionally worse, I am not in any way justifying China's behavior.
The logic that it is okay to jail only a million people without trial because 'Murrica bad! is just ludicrous.
I never said any such thing.
The fact that innocent people in China are unjustly imprisoned is wrong.
The fact that innocent people in America are unjustly imprisoned is also wrong.
By pointing out that America is proportionally worse, I am not in any way justifying China's behavior.
Tell us why it is porportionally worse. What is the execution rate in China? Are their prisoners treated well? Are they given trials? Are they imprisoned for opinions?Tell me how you arrived at the conclusion that you would rather be jailed in China than in the USA. You made your claim twice, support it.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
It is not much different in the US. . The owners of the large corporations set the government agenda and policies, and the public at large has no influence over it.