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Chrome Should Get 'Extremely Fast' at Loading a Whole Lot of Web Pages (cnet.com)

Chrome is going to get a big speed boost -- at least for web pages you've recently visited. CNET: With a feature called bfcache -- backward-forward cache -- Google's web browser will store a website's state as you navigate to a new page. If you then go back to that page, Chrome will reconstitute it rapidly instead of having to reconstruct it from scratch. Then, if you retrace your steps forward again, Chrome will likewise rapidly pull that web page out of its memory cache. The speed boost doesn't help when visiting new websites. But this kind of navigation is very common: Going back accounts for 19 percent of pages viewed on Chrome for Android and 10 percent on Chrome for personal computers, Google said. With bfcache, that becomes "extremely fast."

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  1. Reloading cached pages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How brave.

    1. Re:Reloading cached pages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's breadcrumbs for chromium. But don't worry, they want what's best for you.

    2. Re:Reloading cached pages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The tricky part for Chrome is rewriting some core parts of the browser to protect privacy and security. That's because Chrome has to make sure it really does stop web-based JavaScript programs from running even though it's hanging onto them in memory, said Addy Osmani, an engineering manager on the Chrome team.

      "Running JavaScript on pages which are not there from the user's perspective is a big potential privacy problem, which is why we are going to change Chrome's architecture to ensure that this doesn't happen," he said Monday.

      Maybe they should consider hiring Brendan Eich...

    3. Re:Reloading cached pages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF? Every browser I have ever used, going back to Netscape, circa 1996, has maintained a cache of visited pages.

      Reloading cached pages? You mean doing what every browser has been doing for the last 20+ years?

    4. Re:Reloading cached pages? by Narcocide · · Score: 2

      Yea but the revolutionary breakthrough here is that Google found a way to patent it so now nobody else can do it anymore without paying them royalties.

    5. Re:Reloading cached pages? by Gavagai80 · · Score: 2

      Yea but the revolutionary breakthrough here is that Google found a way to patent it so now nobody else can do it anymore without paying them royalties.

      That's not Google's business model, never has been. Since it's going into Chromium, Google is open sourcing it.

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    6. Re:Reloading cached pages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, the good-intentioned-bad-implementation of SSL-everywhere will ensure that no page is ever cached ever again.

    7. Re:Reloading cached pages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Browsers (and proxy servers) are only meant to cache HTTP pages because, you know, HTTPS pages are supposed to be secure and might contain sensitive information.

      The SSL-Everywhere movement has basically been breaking cached data for everyone in recent years.

      I, for one, welcome our new privacy destroying Chrome overlords!

    8. Re: Reloading cached pages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cashed https data on both privacy-snooping "transparent" proxies (ala corporate networks) and browsers works fine.

    9. Re:Reloading cached pages? by Carewolf · · Score: 2

      Well, there are two or three ways of doing this. Storing all the fields, storing final DOM, and never deleting the active page, but just putting it to sleep.

      Safari and Firefox has been doing the latter since 2003 or so, but will fall back to one of the others under memory pressure or when the entry is old enough in history, and this is what Google is now implementing 17 years later.

    10. Re: Reloading cached pages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who?

  2. Are they going to integrate ghostery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Chrome only gets fast after install ghostery.
    All these add-networks really delay the loading of pages.

    1. Re:Are they going to integrate ghostery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not too smart. Ghostery is owned by advertisers (evidon).

    2. Re: Are they going to integrate ghostery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umatrix

  3. Used to do this... by WoodstockJeff · · Score: 2

    before everyone became concerned with "expiring pages" and made it so you couldn't go back without re-posting data. Then they made it so you couldn't even view the page source without reposting data.

    So, we're going back to what we had 10 years ago?

    1. Re:Used to do this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. We're going to fight systems that do things like that with a half-assed frame buffer system that hogs resources but probably still trips that error.

    2. Re:Used to do this... by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      No. Expiring pages were a necessity of a dynamically generated internet. What we're doing is incorporating the cached system from 10 years ago without breaking what we have now.

    3. Re:Used to do this... by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      No everybody else have been doing it for decades, but Google was just behind, possible because it creates fewer ad views they can bill for.

    4. Re:Used to do this... by PJ6 · · Score: 1

      No. Expiring pages were a necessity of a dynamically generated internet. What we're doing is incorporating the cached system from 10 years ago without breaking what we have now.

      "A dynamically generated internet" is just code for breaking the fundamental design of the web, by serving variable content for identical requests based on ephemeral server-side state.

      Every application I've reviewed that required disabling back navigation or expiring pages you just visited was seriously broken. They "worked", usually, but they weren't designed by someone who knew what they were doing.

    5. Re:Used to do this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "A dynamically generated internet" is just code for breaking the fundamental design of the web, by serving variable content for identical requests based on ephemeral server-side state.

      Am I wrong, or isn't this what sites like slashdot.org do?

    6. Re:Used to do this... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      "A dynamically generated internet" is just code for breaking the fundamental design of the web, by serving variable content for identical requests based on ephemeral server-side state.

      Not quite. Either

      a) You're under the impression that requests are identical. They aren't. Requests are stateful and depend on the context with which they were made.

      b) You're under the delusion that a completely static internet depending on the request is a good thing. That would be fundamentally broken design in todays world. The internet isn't the black and white text crap that was featured on Slashdot last week.

      Speaking of Slashdot if you now click on this link: https://tech.slashdot.org/stor... you may notice a few things. You may notice that it's your user name in the top right and not mine. You may notice that you made a post. You will also notice that since you last visited that page there is additional content replying to you and calling out the absurdity of your claim. That comment was brought to you through the power of the fundamentally broken web as is your ability to reply to it.

    7. Re:Used to do this... by PJ6 · · Score: 1

      "A dynamically generated internet" is just code for breaking the fundamental design of the web, by serving variable content for identical requests based on ephemeral server-side state.

      Not quite. Either

      a) You're under the impression that requests are identical. They aren't. Requests are stateful and depend on the context with which they were made.

      b) You're under the delusion that a completely static internet depending on the request is a good thing. That would be fundamentally broken design in todays world. The internet isn't the black and white text crap that was featured on Slashdot last week.

      Speaking of Slashdot if you now click on this link: https://tech.slashdot.org/stor... you may notice a few things. You may notice that it's your user name in the top right and not mine. You may notice that you made a post. You will also notice that since you last visited that page there is additional content replying to you and calling out the absurdity of your claim. That comment was brought to you through the power of the fundamentally broken web as is your ability to reply to it.

      You're presumably a developer, and yet you can't conceive of any way at all that stateless requests can work for a web application with logins and changing content? Instead of thinking about it for a second or two, you lash out and call this apparently foreign concept "delusional" and "absurd". Nice.

      And you're right, Slashdot breaks the pattern with its volatile paging. I suggested a fix to this broken design years ago, back when they asked for feedback. I'd settle for them fixing the editors first, though.

    8. Re:Used to do this... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      you lash out and call this apparently foreign concept "delusional" and "absurd". Nice.

      You're the one who started with generalities replying to my comment on dynamic content. I really don't know what response you were expecting other than that it is absurd, and that you posting here is proof of why it is actually a good thing to have.

  4. No doubt will be mined for vulns, exploited by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's pretend this convenience outweighs the security risks for the moment - now it's been a moment, let's verify that.

  5. More RAM waste for benchmark "wins" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    As always, Chrome continues to be the fattest memory hog of all browsers, and it only "wins" in synthetic benchmarks, which mean very little in real-world usage cases.

    I keep wondering why people are so keen on giving up their internet secrets to Google, while their spyware slowly eats up all their RAM.

    1. Re:More RAM waste for benchmark "wins" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I run Chrome on Debian Linux and know of no slowness. I also run a Pi-hole as well as UBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, Decentraleyes, Webmail Ad Blocker, Referer Control, Neat URL, and Tracking Token Stripper. I use Chrome because of my G Suite Business account and Chrome works far and away better for this. Business accounts are treated differently than Gmail accounts. I use Firefox or Vivaldi for daily browsing. FF is on the way out. They seem to be circling the drain as goes browsers. What are they down to now this month? Something like 5% user share...

    2. Re:More RAM waste for benchmark "wins" by XanC · · Score: 1

      I'm curious: does your Pi-hole MitM your HTTPS connections in order to do all that?

    3. Re:More RAM waste for benchmark "wins" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      No. The Pi-hole is a DNS blackhole for ads, beacons, and trackers. Anything in the subscription list is simply blackholed from being called to my network. This does wonders for bandwidth, and every device that connects to my network is protected. Raspberry Pi 3B+, case, 32GB SD card, Ethernet cable, and about an hour of time. Best thing I've done lately (almost a year ago) for my network. I run Raspbian. I bought the complete Cana Kit on Amazon for like $69.

    4. Re:More RAM waste for benchmark "wins" by TFlan91 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I back this up.

      Pi-Hole regularly blocks between 60 - 80% of my internet traffic with daily browsing, and down to about 40 - 50% when I'm working.

      It definitely increases browsing speed, page performance, resource usage, etc

    5. Re:More RAM waste for benchmark "wins" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why isn't this rated higher. Chrome does not need more speed. It needs to have its memory use decreased by a factor of 10 or more. Just did the following test over the weekend on a 16gb system with 2gb page file.
      Opera 12.18 - 65 tabs - 680mb used.
      Chrome 72 - opened 18 of the 65 tab that were in Opera. All 16gb ra and most of the 2gb page were in use. Opening the 19th page had the kernel kill chrome processes.

    6. Re:More RAM waste for benchmark "wins" by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      Why have empty memory?

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    7. Re:More RAM waste for benchmark "wins" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I keep wondering why people are so keen on giving up their internet secrets to Google, while their spyware slowly eats up all their RAM.

      Memory use is a phony issue. It isn't 1987 any more. If you have so little RAM that you have to constantly worry about how much is being used, you're doing something wrong.

      This is not a defense of Google/Chrome -- I dislike them as much as the next guy. But your RAM is worthless if it isn't being used.

    8. Re:More RAM waste for benchmark "wins" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why not?

      Things using up all my RAM only brought me misery. Upgrade to the RAM ceiling of your motherboard or computer and you're still fucked because the browsers eat everything again. Well, ceilings of 32 or 64 gigs are common now but don't forget that RAM prices exploded and might soon come back to 2011 or 2012 level..

      Things not using all my RAM? They cost me nothing. I don't benefit by going out of my way to fill the RAM. Doing so is as meaningful as "offers" to spend $80 so as to save $5. If I don't even spend the $80, I'm saving the whole $80 and I don't have to worry about anything else.

    9. Re:More RAM waste for benchmark "wins" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use pfSense+pfblockerng and uses the pi-hole block list as a source. Virtually all displayed ads disappeared and every device on my network gets it for free.

    10. Re:More RAM waste for benchmark "wins" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it's never released cleanly when something else needs it. So either something crashes or your computer starts paging, thus massively slowing everything down yet still crashing later when the pagefile fills up.

      There are those of us who have more than one thing open at a time.

    11. Re:More RAM waste for benchmark "wins" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed.

      A solid 60% of my traffic is cut off by the hosts file and noscript.

      60% of everything i view in daily general internet usage is useless garbage i will never miss. that's pathetic.

  6. Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by shanen · · Score: 2

    As usual, someone else is insisting on what the users REALLY want. The financial models don't really make it possible to do otherwise, eh?

    Let me put it this way: If you had the option to donate $10 toward the implementation of this feature, would you? What feature do you actually want instead? Wouldn't it be nice if someone cared enough to ask?

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    1. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by OffTheLip · · Score: 1

      Ask away but as long as there is gold in them thar hills via the ad revenue stream your voice will be ignored. It'a a design feature.

    2. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by cordovaCon83 · · Score: 2

      Every effort must be made to maximize the speed at which the consumer browses when they are shopping.

    3. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Software is not a perfect democracy. Not Chrome, not open source projects, not those by mega corporations, not those by single developers.

      You want something, why don't *you* put the effort in. Hire a developer to code that thing you want and integrate it in Firefox. In the meantime just because you don't want something doesn't mean that Google hasn't achieved great market share understanding their users.

    4. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by shanen · · Score: 1

      That is the big-donor model. The one that has worked so poorly for Ubuntu and various other examples. Depends on having much deeper pockets than mine, but even deep pockets can be negated due to bad decisions by or ulterior motivations of the wealthy donor.

      I could explain more, but your unprovoked and dickish rudeness merits nothing. Nor shall I hold my breath waiting for you to come up with a constructive or useful thought.

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    5. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by swillden · · Score: 1

      As usual, someone else is insisting on what the users REALLY want. The financial models don't really make it possible to do otherwise, eh?

      Let me put it this way: If you had the option to donate $10 toward the implementation of this feature, would you? What feature do you actually want instead? Wouldn't it be nice if someone cared enough to ask?

      You don't have to ask. If there's something you want to see in Chrome, go add it to Chromium. Yes, this will be a fair amount of work, and you'll have to work with the Google engineers who act as gatekeepers, but it can totally be done. If you aren't a programmer, get a few thousand of your closest friends together and each donate $10 so that you can collectively hire a programmer to do it.

      With closed source you don't really have this option, of course -- and of course with closed source you'd probably actually have to pay for it, rather than getting it for free. But Chrome is (mostly) open source, so go get it done.

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    6. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But Chrome is (mostly) open source, so go get it done.

      shanen would rather be a whiny bitch and complain the free shit people give him/her/it isnt good enough

    7. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by swillden · · Score: 1

      That is the big-donor model.

      There's no reason groups of small donors couldn't do it. Or even individuals who contribute larger amounts of time/expertise, rather than money.

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    8. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every effort must be made to maximize the speed at which the consumer browses when they are shopping.

      A lot of the slowdown is all the crap that comes with a page these days. Countless trackers, advertisements and dynamic content that is cache unfriendly, else something like SQUID would actually be more useful.

      Here's a question, if I go back a page and it reloads all the ads from cache so that their origin servers don't register a page load, how does that affect revenue? Perhaps it loads a second copy in the background for the next time?

      Either way, caching crap isn't that hard. Use a dictionary. Quite often in programing you see some object is built using say a string for its recipe. Dictionary does the job. At work the string regularly is used to do some sql calls to get information that should be static for the entire run of the program and then to generate objects from the results. The first hit takes a little time. The second is just object reuse by reference. As long as your not hitting a dictionary super often it works fine, and is much faster than a from scratch instantiation.

    9. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by shanen · · Score: 1

      That is precisely what I am advertising. The specific mechanism that I advocate can be described as a "charity share brokerage". There needs to be a coordinating mechanism of some sort, and the objectives of the CSB are to address some of the problems of existing crowd funding mechanisms by supporting more planning and accountability.

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    10. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by shanen · · Score: 1

      Your tone sounds like you disagree, though you seem to be advocating just how I think the CSB should work.

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    11. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I'm sure users will be mightily disappointed that their browser got faster. That's the last thing they want.

      I think we have found the bottom of the barrel here. This is rock bottom for criticism of Chrome.

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    12. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      The one that has worked so poorly for Ubuntu and various other examples.

      ... How poorly has it worked for a Linux distribution that came from a Debian fork and had it's limelight as the most popular distro on the market? Or are you talking about a specific case not a general one?

    13. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by shanen · · Score: 1

      Mostly I'm talking about the failure of Ubuntu to become a serious alternative for "the filthy masses". Linux remains a niche market. Actually, the most successful new OS is probably Android (and yes, I know it has some links to Linux), but that's actually another bid-donor model. Again, it's driven by the good (or bad) decisions of the donor (whose real and non-charitable objective is to obtain more advertising revenue).

      No, I obviously can't prove things should have gone differently, but... I'm still convinced that Windows 8 presented a really great opportunity to push Microsoft out of its dominant position.

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    14. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by shanen · · Score: 1

      I am NOT saying that saving time is intrinsically bad. If I was saying anything along those lines it would be that I would rather save time by seeing fewer ads, but the decision for this feature is clearly driven by a desire to shove more ads into my face. I certainly would NOT pay for more ads if I had my druthers. If the development of Chrome (or any other browser) was more clearly driven by the desires of the users, then I think the objective would be fewer ads overall, with higher relevance for the surviving ads, but without giving up personal information and privacy.

      I think you are becoming intellectually dishonest. This branch of the "discussion" seems to be entering the dead zone.

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    15. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Mostly I'm talking about the failure of Ubuntu to become a serious alternative for "the filthy masses". Linux remains a niche market.

      And what feature could you donate that makes it a "serious" alternative for the filthy masses? Ubuntu didn't fail from a development for a target audience point of view, it failed against a large well funded and vertically integrated monopoly with a lot of money to throw at contenders in terms of marketing.

      Linux could be the perfect and most ideal system in every way and offer free blowjobs with every download and it won't ever become a "serious" alternative given it's absence of advertising, expectation subversion (unable to run windows software, remember those masses are filthy), and complete lack of any vertical integration or default pre-bundling.

    16. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by shanen · · Score: 1

      You obviously don't understand or don't agree with my description of the problem. Notwithstanding, I have put my constructive suggestion on the table. So what's yours?

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    17. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Notwithstanding, I have put my constructive suggestion on the table. So what's yours?

      No my suggestion of the big-donor model is still perfectly acceptable. Your example of Ubuntu as to why it doesn't work has no relevance as the project failed to achieve what you are looking for for completely different reasons.

      My suggestion remains unchanged. The original idea you had was getting the features you want, not gaining mass market acceptance for a product, something which has failed for multiple distributions following multiple different development models.

    18. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by shanen · · Score: 1

      You don't want to get me started on all of the problems with Ubuntu. Many years since I've been able to recommend it to anyone. I'm not even saying that the big donor made any of the huge mistakes that have doomed so many such projects to early oblivion. It's more that his priorities are wrong from a real world perspective, at least for the parts of the real world that I live in. One of my theories is that he's been overly influenced by his programmers, who push for flashy new stuff (mostly because it's more interesting to do), while the features I'd pay for are much more pragmatic. I would want less new stuff and more fixing of the important day-to-day stuff.

      Your second paragraph mostly indicates that you have quite limited understanding of my suggestion, but you either don't care enough to ask for clarification or don't know the questions. Insofar as this discussion is probably timing out (as Slashdot does things), I feel like this is a parting attempt to be clear. It isn't me or my little bit of money that matters, but rather the groups of wannabe donors who share similarities with me (or with each other without me). If a sufficient number of donors want to pay for slight improvements in the speed of the browser, then that's fine and dandy, though the real point of my suggestion is that the actual results get reported back to them (as well as to the public).

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    19. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I agree Ubuntu has many problems. I think they've been pulled on all arms at once in different directions. Let's create a desktop OS for the tablet which gets deployed on the cloud and make sure nothing works.

      Your second paragraph mostly indicates that you have quite limited understanding of my suggestion, but you either don't care enough to ask for clarification or don't know the questions.

      We are having a discussion. I have given you a reply based on my interpretation. How am I supposed to ask for a clarification I am not aware I need. The only person here who is capable of knowing if I didn't understand something you wrote is you.

      Insofar as this discussion is probably timing out (as Slashdot does things), I feel like this is a parting attempt to be clear.

      We can keep this up for another week before that happens ;-)

      I feel like this is a parting attempt to be clear. It isn't me or my little bit of money that matters, but rather the groups of wannabe donors who share similarities with me (or with each other without me). If a sufficient number of donors want to pay for slight improvements in the speed of the browser, then that's fine and dandy, though the real point of my suggestion is that the actual results get reported back to them (as well as to the public).

      Indeed but then we come back to the problem of software not being a perfect democracy. Your suggestion is the same as saying there are people protesting in the street against abortion so "Americans" don't like abortion. What ends up happening is the software development gets driven by a vocal and often highly specialised minority and ends up not at all reflecting the desires of "users" on the whole.

      And I'm not sure what you mean by results reported back to them, ... doesn't that happen automatically with the release of a version with their desired feature anyway?

    20. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by shanen · · Score: 1

      Okay, now I feel I'm being dragged back to square one... Of course much of the problem is that this is so old to me that my viewpoint is jaded (and I take it for granted, too). Much of this goes back before I ever heard of Kickstarter, though now I see the CSB (charity share brokerage) as a solution to the most glaring problems of crowdfunding. Underneath it's really a human freedom thing, per my sig, and the REAL problem is that we human beings aren't very bright. Therefore we need to figure out ways to keep things simple enough at each stage of the decision process so that we can exercise the most freedom in the most meaningful ways?

      Rather than try to clarify the muddles with OSS or Chrome, I think it might be better to branch to (what I now see as) an "easier" application area, journalism. It's basically the same mechanism used in a different way. (At least that's how I see it now...)

      Imagine you watch a news video about a social problem. Following the video are 3 to 5 project proposals related to solving that problem. Viewers of the video would have an option to pledge a "charity share" to a project, where the CSB is already holding the money. The CSB would make sure that each proposal is complete in terms of schedule, budget, resources, testing (if it involves software), and success criteria. Only after a project gets sufficient buy-in from wannabe donors will the money start to flow. The CSB would also be responsible for applying the success criteria to the actual results and reporting on them so the donors and the public can know what happened. The CSB earns a (budgeted) fraction for their project-management support (and the journalists earn a share for clarifying the problems and for reaching the wannabe donors).

      The 3 to 5 limit is actually the key to controlling the flow. On the one hand, it reflects how many ideas we can hold in our minds at one time, but on the other hand it reflects the prioritization and editorial guidance. As each project gets funded, it should be removed and replaced with a still pending project. I even think the journalists themselves should be included in the prioritization process on the grounds that they are sincerely concerned and have above-average expertise, though the final "voting" is still going to the donors who decide to support or not support a particular proposal.

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    21. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Right I understand it now. That would be a workable system but you're still at the whim of the 3-5 suggested improvements. Ultimately this is still someone else suggesting what users want with the exception that if they get it wrong there's the potential not to get funding at all.

    22. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Nor me. by shanen · · Score: 1

      The reason to limit it to 3 to 5 at one time is because too many choices becomes overwhelming. Once that happens the choices are rarely free, but usually influenced by irrelevant factors, or even manipulated. However, that is also addressed by replacing the funded projects with others (rather than letting the project collect the excess jackpot donations (like the ones that destroyed the Diaspora alternative to Facebook)).

      If a project can't attract sufficient donors, then that's fine, too. Don't forget the schedule should include the funding period (to insure relevance), and if a project can't attract enough donors by that deadline, then the wannabe donors can just pick some other project. The CSB could even offer suggestions for related and still unfunded projects when it notifies them them their preferred project was never sufficiently funded. The failure to attract donors also indicates that there is something wrong with the proposal. It might be too small a niche or need other reconsideration and rewriting, but that's fine, too. Maybe they'll have better luck after some more planning.

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  7. Doesn't WebKit have that built-in already? by dgatwood · · Score: 1

    I'm a little confused here. WebKit has had a back-forward cache for as long as I can remember, and Chrome forked off of that. How is this not already part of Chrome?

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    1. Re:Doesn't WebKit have that built-in already? by Carewolf · · Score: 2

      I'm a little confused here. WebKit has had a back-forward cache for as long as I can remember, and Chrome forked off of that. How is this not already part of Chrome?

      The WebKit implementation was incompatible with their multi-process model, so they had to rewrite it. Though I am kind of shocked they didn't do this YEARS ago.

  8. Doesnâ(TM)t Firefox already do this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of the reasons I went back to Firefox is that chromeâ(TM)s back button always seemed so slow. Hitting back in Firefox has always seemed instantaneous even back in Netscape days

    1. Re: Doesnâ(TM)t Firefox already do this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes

    2. Re: Doesnâ(TM)t Firefox already do this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was introduced in Firefox 1.5 in 2005, so Google is 14 years late to the party.

    3. Re:Doesnâ(TM)t Firefox already do this? by higuita · · Score: 2

      yes, it does... in the past it cached the page, so back would fetch it from cache and was still log faster, specially because network was so slow. Several years ago (maybe 7 or 8 years ago), they started to cache also the already rendered page, so back would not even need to re-rendering most of the cached data

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  9. Brave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://brave.com/

    1. Re:Brave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      https://www.slashgear.com/brave-new-browser-wants-to-profit-from-every-site-you-visit-21423879/

    2. Re:Brave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the reply I'm looking for.

    3. Re:Brave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://brave.com/

      LOL. Good one.

      Broken and useless, missing key features that have been common in other browsers for more than a decade. Had some exchanges with one of the developers on a forum and the level of retardedness was truly mind boggling.

  10. Never trust Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They have plans for your future that involve a brave new world under an iron fist, painted blue to make you accept the pain.

    Google is a tool of big government and deep state corporate taskmasters.

  11. Re:Don't use it, don't care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do you even post then?

  12. Re:Background tabs CPU throttling - current status by roca · · Score: 5, Informative

    Firefox does throttle CPU in background tabs. For a very long time APIs like setTimeout have been throttled aggressively.

    There has been quite recent work on using OS APIs to reduce the priority of processes running background tabs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/s...

  13. Use all the memory! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey you have 16 gigs of memory, I think I'll use 15.5 of them! kthxbye!

  14. Re:Don't use it, don't care by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 1

    Hey, just curious, do you not watch today's television programs too?

  15. Re:Been doing THAT for years via hosts files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How does a hosts file help with caching web pages?

    Also, is this an open source util? Forgive me for being suspicious of random zip files on the internet...

  16. Didn't Netscape Navigator have this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It also had throbbers.

    Web 1.0 > Web EverythingIsJavaScriptAJAXBloatAds

  17. There are two types of browsers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was the old Opera browser - before they ditched Presto - and the other browsers that will eventually approximate Opera's featureset years later (context: this was one of Opera's key features).

    1. Re:There are two types of browsers by kaur · · Score: 1

      Seconded.
      This was one of the major reasons why I used Opera.
      Other two being tabs (long before any other browser) and zoom (same).

    2. Re:There are two types of browsers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why zoom? tabs of course, but zoom?

    3. Re:There are two types of browsers by Narcocide · · Score: 2

      A way to increase font sizes without breaking page layouts on poorly programmed sites.

    4. Re:There are two types of browsers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why I always use Firefox. Try this : go to the "Customize..." dialog that serves to re-arrange browser buttons and such ; drag the " - | 100% | + " zooming controls from the burger menu to the toolbar (with the new Firefox 57+ GUI, it also remains in the burger menu this time).

      Now it's always available and handy and shows the zoom level (it only sucks with the built-in pdf viewer, because this one has its own zoom level and it's a bit ugly when you're using the wrong one). Clicking the zoom level also sets it back to 100%, which I'm mentioning because I don't know if this is very discoverable for people.

    5. Re: There are two types of browsers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So ctrl+ , ctrl-, and ctrl0 then?

  18. Shouldn't work in Incognito Mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use Chromium in "Incognito Mode" and with configuration files locked on read-only.

  19. Re:Don't use it, don't care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, what a useful post! Thank you so much for your amazing insights!

  20. SO... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It will use even more memory then. Cool beans.

  21. So wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They just reinvented browser cache? Like Netscape had since version 1? Are you fucking kidding me?

  22. Very common. Really? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But this kind of navigation is very common:

    Not for me. When I'm viewing a page that has multiple sub-pages of interest, I tend to open a new tab for those sub pages. For example, one tab for the /. main page and a new tab for each article I read -- similarly for actual news sites. :-) Don't really know why I would want to go back and forth within a single tab.

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    1. Re:Very common. Really? by Lije+Baley · · Score: 1

      You must be new to the internet. Back in my day, there weren't no pic-tures or scripts and everything went back and forth lightning fast just like the creators intended. And we had to remember where we came from iffin we ever wanted to go back 'cause there weren't no tabs. And we liked it that way! NGOML

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    2. Re:Very common. Really? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      You must be new to the internet. Back in my day, ...

      Not really... I used Mosaic (and compiled it from scratch) when I worked at the NASA Langley Research Center as a sysadmin for their supercomputer network - many Sun workstations, a Cray-2, Cray YMP, and 3 Convex systems. I was actually at work there the day the Morris Worm hit.

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    3. Re:Very common. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Likewise. I've probably taken it to an extreme, where I almost never simply follow a link to a new page, I almost always open it in a new (background) tab.. I don't even think about it. I'll often finish reading a page before I look at any of the tabs I've opened. Ctrl+w to close a tab is a pretty quick way to tidy up and "go back".

    4. Re:Very common. Really? by Waccoon · · Score: 1

      I have a macro key next to my left shift key, which I've mapped to the "close window" command. My style of surfing the web is to shift-click to open each link in a new window, not a tab, and use the macro key to close pages. I use the OS taskbar to manage windows (the way a window manager is supposed to work), not whatever custom tab management each application devises.

      I absolutely love this arrangement, but apparently I'm the only person in the world who does it this way. It pisses me off how many web pages use proprietary Javascript to open links, ensuring that standard hyperlink navigation (among other things) is totally broken.

    5. Re: Very common. Really? by psyclone · · Score: 1

      Mosaic was amazing for its time. Wasteful tool bar at top, but a pretty sweet graphic while loading.

    6. Re:Very common. Really? by Lije+Baley · · Score: 1

      Heck, I was probably thinking more of the good ol' days of Gopher. I recall first using Mosaic and thinking it was kind of cool, but no match for the speed of Gopher. I still believe that images ruined the internet, even more so than the Army Of Lamers.

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    7. Re:Very common. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you almost have to because everything is constantly changing so that link you thought might be interesting will be gone when you go back to the page

  23. What's that sound? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That giant sucking sound is all your RAM disappearing into the maw of a single browser window.

  24. Marcus Wright you're ALL wrong... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject INFILTRATOR & evidon an advertiser fox watching YOUR HENHOUSE! Now, since I've been on a terminator 'kick' all day PER my subject?

    Might as well do it again:

    Quote John Connor from the BEST scene in TERMINATOR SALVATION: "The devil's hands've been busy - you think you're human? You & me - we've been @ war since before either of us EVEN existed - you tried killing my mother, Sara Connor. You killed my father, Kyle Reese - YOU WILL NOT KILL ME!"

    APK

    P.S.=> Especially this https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... ... apk

  25. yes but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    . . . is there a way to send my browsing history and personal information to Google even faster?
    And to make sure it is really ALL of my info. I find it annoying when they don't know everything about me.

  26. Re:Don't use it, don't care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the opinion that matters, not the content. Or don't you know how forums work?

  27. Re:Don't use it, don't care by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thanks for your insight. To make it easier on us in the future can you please list in alphabetical order all the things you don't use so we don't accidentally bother you again?

  28. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Me neither. by shanen · · Score: 2

    Due to your brevity, I'm not sure if you were deliberately being insightful or it was some sort of joke. However, it is true that the economic model is driving the behaviors, but only indirectly in this case through the google's invasive ad business. Even from that perspective there are other options for new features that make much more sense than this.

    If the user is dissatisfied with the speed, they can buy a faster Internet connection or a faster computer or both. Much more than $10 in such cases.

    Error in the original Subject. Last part should have been "Me neither."

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  29. retrace your steps forward again ? by swell · · Score: 1

    Yes, I've been trying to do this since 1985 and my DeLorean is running out of dilithium crystals. My obnoxious son chides me with these words:

    'You are old, father William,' the young man said,
    'And your hair has become very white;
    And yet you incessantly stand on your head -
    Do you think, at your age, it is right?' . . .

    --
    ...omphaloskepsis often...
    1. Re:retrace your steps forward again ? by Pikoro · · Score: 1

      You could always go back to Wonderland :)

      --
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  30. It'll NEVER be OpenSORES & why... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It'll NEVER be OpenSORES & lookup Google EFast (malicious build of Chrome DUE to being "OpenSORES"'d & the crap CRIPPLES coders (when YOU don't DO THE WORK YOURSELF & STEAL others' code, that's what you DO to yourselves coders - & you open yourselves to DEPENDENCE on that shit that often shows SECURITY ISSUES IN IT (node js being a PRIME example thereof)).

    * That will NEVER happen to me because I don't release MY code - I put MY NAME on it also (you THINK I'd write malware putting MY NAME in it? LOL! Guess again! I'd put myself in PRISON if I did).

    APK

    P.S.=> Now, since you do your UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous "trolling" of me? Good luck out-thinking/outsmarting me - it CAN'T BE DONE, lol... apk

  31. Browsers & OS cache FOOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject + my last post (cuts down on bandwidth ads & tracking script used) Hosts efficacy recently vs. threats & results in https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... https://it.slashdot.org/commen... https://linux.slashdot.org/com... https://news.slashdot.org/comm... https://apple.slashdot.org/com... https://it.slashdot.org/commen... https://it.slashdot.org/commen... https://it.slashdot.org/commen... https://it.slashdot.org/commen... https://it.slashdot.org/commen... https://it.slashdot.org/commen... https://search.slashdot.org/co... https://it.slashdot.org/commen... https://it.slashdot.org/commen... https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... https://apple.slashdot.org/com... https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... https://it.slashdot.org/commen... https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... https://science.slashdot.org/c... https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    * That's only recently while I've been on Linux (July 2018) & 100's of times vs. MANY other botnets/malwares etc. in the past circa 2006-early 2018 while I was on Windows: CONCRETE VERIFIABLE UNDENIABLE REALITY (see those links as proof). ... & that's ONLY what /. reported on (there were TONS more)

    APK

    P.S.=> "It's working: Neville... it's working!" - "I AM LEGEND" + HOSTNAME USE IS DOWN IN MALWARE https://unit42.paloaltonetwork... (my ACT OF FAITH is JUSTIFIED by fact)... apk

    1. Re:Browsers & OS cache FOOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How nice of APK to provide an abbreviated list of recent times that his work failed to prevent attacks. He admits that there are even more earlier and not reported too. To top it of he is now admitting that his work is becoming even more ineffective.

  32. Re:Background tabs CPU throttling - current status by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm on the other side of the fence. The only reason to open tabs is to have them do something. The recent changes to throttle background tabs breaks most every real-time monitor I use. Now, I have to open these pages in separate browsers, because returning to a web page that has error messages on it isnt fun.

  33. Re:Background tabs CPU throttling - current status by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How can we stop them from doing this? Or get them to make it user-controllable?

  34. Compressing multiple back arrow operations? by sinequonon · · Score: 1

    Personally, I wish Chrome would compress multiple back arrow operations in your browser and jump straight back to the desired page in history. It would save a lot of reload time.

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  35. Re:Don't use it, don't care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Forums? This is slashdot, you're both faggots. Now e-fuck and whine about video games and the government in Kendall's voice. *moaning victimstance*

  36. I...thought they did this already.

    I have a better proposal. If I am on a web site with a login, and I take so long to enter an awesome post that I am auto logged out behind the scene, preserve the blather from the vaporized long text box somewhere...anywhere...so I can recover it. Back + login = clean form thanks fer nuthin'.

    In short, if I had an human assistant and said, oops, see I was logged out, put that text back in thanks, then they would do it.

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    1. Re:Back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me Too!

      If they aren't saving previous pages where the frack does all the memory go?!?

    2. Re:Back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This would be a useful thing to do - you can extend this by including the text area for the post you'll lose because you clicked on a user name by accident.
      But well, to Google..

      - It's a liability, for security or discretion. You will also lose your post because you used an "Incognito" window this time and the text area logging feature is disabled when in "Incognito". People will get burned by inconsistent behavior like that.
      - You "should" be using gmail, gdoc or "Google Posts" etc. that will auto-save the post for you! Failbook also probably does that, and Google will tolerate you using it as long as you're using the Google/Failbook duopoly anyway. Maybe you're not really a google user so you're "only" using youtube, maps and the android app store and you're "only" logged in 80% of the time. It's okay. But think how you could be writing in a gmail draft! (because you care about your privacy, so you don't want to write your auto-save draft on failbook)

  37. Retracing your steps forward? by TeknoHog · · Score: 4, Funny

    Only Alt-Right people would do such a thing.

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  38. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Me neither. by complete+loony · · Score: 1

    Reusing data you already have can be much quicker than waiting for the speed of light (or at least the speed of internet) to reload content from remote servers.

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  39. Re:Background tabs CPU throttling - current status by tepples · · Score: 1

    The only reason to open tabs is to have them do something.

    That or to keep an HTML document loaded on your laptop so that you can read it while you are away from Internet access.

  40. Randomized hostnames by tepples · · Score: 1

    How well does Pi-hole work when a tracker uses randomized hostnames within a particular domain? Or randomized hostnames within each publisher's domain? I know APK's solution breaks in such cases.

    1. Re:Randomized hostnames by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It generally blocks the entire domain, in those cases. You choose one or more lists of DNS zones/names to block, based on your preferences. From memory I have about 600K items blocked.

    2. Re:Randomized hostnames by RuiFRibeiro · · Score: 1

      In that case it blocks the solution is blocking the entire domain.
      However, that does not stop some more shady sites using randomized domains on the last couple of years. For those special kind of idiots, the only solution is doing DNS whitelisting on the browser or layer 7 firewalling at the client side.

  41. Firefox too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Firefox added this long ago, so hitting the back button went from fast (reload assets from disk and ram caches) to instant. I think this didn't last for long because it's all too easily defeated by the presence of any HTML5 and/or Javascript garbage.
    Perhaps Google's new feature will be able to be disrupted by a single script or ad picture etc. that invalidates the page and force a full re-render, except google will hand optimize its own sites/applications and Google AMP.

    I don't care either way, I'm lucky if I do back/forward among pages and get the same article recommendation I wanted to follow. If I'm not lucky I've lost that dynamically generated link forever. That's why some of us are tab hoarders.
    There are also areas of Firefox GUI that lack a scroll bar (but you can scroll with keyboard or scrollwheel or touchpad or tiny arrows). That's not a related issue, but this sucks balls. I never ever know whether I have 50 tabs or 500 tabs unless I recover from a crash or accidentally hit a close button.

    1. Re:Firefox too by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I feel like I've still got it over here on Pale Moon. If I back up to a form here on Slashdot, or on those other rare sites that actually use HTML+CSS instead of doing everything with Javascript, whatever I put into the forms is still there...

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    2. Re:Firefox too by RuiFRibeiro · · Score: 1

      I would use PaleMoon if it were not from the project promoting adverts in the browser.

  42. Cache the Tylenol by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    Browser caching has been a source of many headaches in our org with regard to CMS's and dynamic web applications. You can put header tags that allegedly turn off caching so users always see the latest, but they don't always work right on all content types (HTML, images, CSS, JavaScript, PDF's, etc.). All browser brands we've tested have at least one caching bug.

    If browser makers haven't perfected current caching, then this new fancy-ass caching will probably have even more bugs.

    1. Re:Cache the Tylenol by SurenEnfiajyan · · Score: 1

      And sometimes it led to bugs even on own Google sites.

    2. Re:Cache the Tylenol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Welcome to the WWW (Wild Wild Web).

      Browser makers create the standards. HTML and Javascript still exist, forcing everyone to make an app for your phone because of its mediocrity.

  43. Re:Been doing THAT for years via hosts files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wildcard subdomains?

  44. Re:Been doing THAT for years via hosts files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And then there were wildcard subdomains...

  45. Re:Background tabs CPU throttling - current status by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's useful even on full ATX towers - when you're piggybacking on 2.4GHz wifi which is only really usable when it's not "Internet rush hour".
    You can keep even dozens wall of text articles for your "internet fix" that will not consume much resources if they're full of actual content but not so much megabyte scripts and 8 megapixel pictures.

  46. Wildcards like in DNS? LMAO - ok... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    & imprecision, false positives & overheads in ram/cpu use wildcards introduce. DNS wildcards? US DHS issues DNS redirect is HUGE danger (not w/ hosts vs.) https://threatpost.com/gov-war... & ICANN ISSUES SAME WARNING https://tech.slashdot.org/stor...

    * Do yourselves a GIANT favor - don't ever, Ever, EVER even THINK of trying to outthink OR outsmart me...

    APK

    P.S.=> Results will ALWAYS be in MY FAVOR vs. you 'white mice MENIAL intellects', lol - see above! apk

    1. Re:Wildcards like in DNS? LMAO - ok... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok so explain to me how your work can block all subdomains from ad0.badadserver.com to ad99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999.badadserver.com because with a wildcarded DNS entry and a trivial amount of scripting either on the web server or even client can have all of those sub domains resolve to a single address with the ad[some random number] part generated at random on demand. The wildcarded DNS entry ensures that resolution works and that there is no need to keep the throwaway random portion since they all go to the same location.

  47. I applaud that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're starting to get serious to better compete with Netscape Navigator 4.7.

    Now it's on!

  48. Re:Background tabs CPU throttling - current status by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PS : dreaming of a quad core Cortex A53 1GHz system, with 32GB RAM. Browsers are braindead wasting RAM like that and they only get more sandboxes, processes, caching, megapixels. Meanwhile I just want to look at the pictures and text that got rendered so there's not so that much CPU load, for me anyway. I also want to open another browser, or perhaps a VM on top of that which will also waste hundreds megs to gigs of RAM and be mostly idling.

    This is a slightly absurd suggested CPU/RAM combination, to get the point across.

  49. great... by modmans2ndcoming · · Score: 1

    Now Chrome will take up 80% of my memory rather than 50%

  50. Re:Don't use it, don't care by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks for your insight. To make it easier on us in the future can you please list in alphabetical order all the things you don't use so we don't accidentally bother you again?

    I would prefer the list chronological in either (a) the date which it stopped being used, or (b) the thing was first discovered (if it is not being used).

  51. Re: Don't use it, don't care by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    Maybe those who are anti Windows 10 due to piracy and pro Chrome may want to go a step further and apply your principles to all products. Not just the ones that think are cool.

  52. Doesn't this already exist? by idontusenumbers · · Score: 1

    Wasn't this in WebKit (and therefor Chrome) 10 years ago?

    https://webkit.org/blog/427/we...

  53. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Me neither. by shanen · · Score: 1

    Yes, I understand what a cache is. I even know why additional working memory can improve cache performance, and the new computer I mentioned will probably have more memory for caching. If that was your question, then it is answered. Politely, even though such a question could be regarded as rude.

    On the other hand, if you have nothing to say, then perhaps you should say nothing.

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  54. Opera had this years ago by sgunhouse · · Score: 3, Informative

    Opera Presto (which is to say, versions 7 through 12) had this years ago, though the early versions didn't handle dynamic pages well. It was one of their stronger features, and when they did change it most people wanted the option to put it back the way it was. It doesn't do anything for javascript/HTML benchmarks as it only deals with pages you've seen before, but it helps immensely on workflow.

    Best example, you do a search and get a results page, then have to look at the pages in the results to see if they are what you're looking for. So you load one page, then go back to the results page, then load the next ,,, until you (hopefully) find what you want. With this RAM cache (as Opera called it), returning to the results page is as fast as if you'd just switched tabs, so you don't need to open the links in new tabs (and thus don't use as much memory and CPU).

    1. Re: Opera had this years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really, people browse that way?
      That implies you're always waiting for the next page to load.
      My time is more limited than my bandwidth, has been since ages.

      So I open at least about 3 to 4 interesting looking pages in the background, then start reading the first one. In case I find it's not what I needed, page 2 is already loaded, etc.

      I thought everyone did it that way...

      aRTee

  55. Re: Been doing THAT for years via hosts files by psyclone · · Score: 1

    Dnsmasq using an amended hosts file FTW. Point your router DNS to a linux box if necessary. Then all devices covered.

  56. Opera circa 1998 by reanjr · · Score: 0

    This is a feature Opera had for at least a decade before they rewrote it to just be Chrome.

    No modern browser comes close to Opera circa 1998, and it's absolutely pathetic what people think are features a browser should have.

    1. Re:Opera circa 1998 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes. My thoughts exactly when reading this was welcome to Opera browser circa 2000. Opera was so good.

      While I'm here is the general consensus on best browser now Firefox ? I have been using chrome since old opera support ended. (on mac safari and second browser chrome) should I switch to FF ?

      The new opera is just weird. Old opera was weird but good like old opera.

  57. But what if the page... by SurenEnfiajyan · · Score: 1

    ...is a quite dynamic multiplayer online game like slither.io? Saving the states of these kinds of pages will likely introduce bugs.

  58. Hog it by ajyand · · Score: 1

    Hog the memory, memory hog.

  59. Ludicrous speed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope, still not fast enough

  60. How do they know? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    That's the bit that's interesting to me. How do they know that going back accounts for 19 or 10 percent of the traffic?

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  61. Another reason Edge is adopting Chromium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think clearly Chrome is leading the way in browser progress, and its why any browser with hopes of getting some attention use Chromium engine. Not that Firefox's Quantum isn't open source as well, but nobody apparently thinks its the best web engine. If Mozilla loses more funding it wouldn't surprise me to see Firefox adopt more of the Chromium engine. As the old saying goes, if you can't beat them, join them.

  62. Not fast enough by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

    I browse 12 hours a day. Improvements are good, I need more though.

    I have 8 cores, 16 threads. 32GB.
    Let me tick a box "insane fast mode" I don't care if it uses 24GB memory, I want preemptive tab updating in the background of tabs they know I open 70 times a day.

    I also want, since I browse like a drunken master, to not open a tab I already have open. If I have one open already somewhere else just switch that tab in its place. So I'm never on duplicate tabs. (They do this now, poorly)

  63. Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Still not going to use it

  64. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Me neither. by cordovaCon83 · · Score: 1

    Due to your brevity, I'm not sure if you were deliberately being insightful or it was some sort of joke."

    I'll admit that I was going for the chuckle by being so brief but it's a statement of truth.

    The average client with a storefront is not going to tell their customers that their computer is outdated and internet connection too slow to purchase their products. It is the developer's duty to provide cost savings to the client by reducing server load and to improve page performance for the customer to aid retention and thereby increase sales. It is the developer's duty to use every available tool in the box to achieve these goals. Such is the nature of modern web development.

  65. Been doing THAT for years via hosts files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For ANY browser via APK Hosts File Engine 2.0++ 64-bit for Linux/BSD h t t p : / / a p k . i t - m a t e . c o . u k / A P K H o s t s F i l e E n g i n e F o r L i n u x . z i p

    Yields more security/speed/reliability/anonymity vs. any 1 solution (99% of threats use hostnames vs. IP address most firewalls use) more efficiently/FASTER + NATIVELY 4 less.

    Vs. "Bolt on 'MoAr' illogic-logic" slowing u hosts speed u up 2 ways: Adblocks + Hardcode fav. sites u spend most time @ vs. competition w/ security bugs (DNS/AntiVir) + overheads slowing u (messagepass 'souled-out' to advertisers easily detected & blocked addons + firewall filtering drivers) & their complexity leads to exploit!

    * 1 of a kind in GUI 4 Linux!

    FASTER+SAFER & Cuts 40++% bandwidth used!

    APK

    P.S.=> Protects vs. scripts/trackers (kernelmode faster vs. usermode slower NoScript vs. 3rd party script)/ads/DNS request tracking + redirect poisoned or downed DNS/botnets/malware download/malcript/email malicious payload

  66. Learn to READ moron... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a PARTIAL LIST ONLY. /. omitted reports where hosts work vs. threats etc. & /. didn't report tons of others from security sites, dolt.

    APK

    P.S.=> LEARN TO READ! apk

  67. Hosts also STOP THOSE DNS ISSUES! apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts also STOP DNS ISSUES I ljust listed using hardcoded favorite sites avoiding DNS' requestlog tracking/security issues totally (which also speeds up getting to them TOO by resolving FASTER THAN DNS CAN from LOCAL SYSTEM RAM where hosts is cached).

    * Had to add THAT fact too!

    APK

    P.S.=> Regarding what I listed that DHS & ICANN are warning of (massive redirect poisoning of DNS occurring lately) listed here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... that I just replied to adding this fact... apk

  68. Chrome Pattern by slash.jit · · Score: 1

    I see a pattern with Chrome.. the faster it gets in loading pages with every update slower it makes our computer. Where are they going with this ?

  69. Firefox has this and I turned it off because of pr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Firefox has this and I turned it off because of privacy/security concerns

  70. YOU prove they're all bad 1st... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Until you prove ALL of 'em = bad you get FALSE POSITIVES via wildcards & DNS has redirect poisoning US DHS issues DNS redirect is HUGE danger (not w/ hosts vs.) https://threatpost.com/gov-war... & ICANN ISSUES SAME WARNING https://tech.slashdot.org/stor...

    A PROBLEM DNS HAS THAT HOSTS HARDCODES STOP MIND YOU by avoiding DNS requestlog TRACKING & also DNS totally vs. those redirects + hosts RESOLVE FASTER PROPERLY & aren't subject to that dns redirect poisoning!

    * YOU LOSE AGAIN!

    (Hosts blocking SPECIFIC KNOWN BAD SITES don't GET YOU FALSE POSITIVES!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Keep going for DNS chump - see where it gets you (redirected to MALWARE & also RESOLVING SLOWER THAN HOSTS DO, (hosts aren't redirected to poisoned FAKE SITES, & hosts DO resolve FASTER by FAR))... apk

    1. Re:YOU prove they're all bad 1st... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dumb fuck they are all bad as the DNS entry is a wildcard one. This means that if one is bad they are all bad and was stated as such. Now explain how your work can possibly block all those subdomains that resolve identically. Stop trying to dodge the question and answer it or admit that you can't.

  71. DNS = FULL OF BAD entries now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Redirect poisoning in DNS = rampant: hosts avoid it US DHS issues DNS redirect is huge danger https://threatpost.com/gov-war... & ICANN ISSUES SAME WARNING https://tech.slashdot.org/stor... you DUMBfuck!

    * Hosts also RESOLVE FASTER & properly vs. DNS redirect poisonings & being DOWN dumbass!

    WHY DO YOU THINK CHINA COPIED MY IDEA of hosts hardcoded favorites?

    & Who did it 1st: China or me? I did!

    Dates = my proof https://theregister.co.uk/2017... w/ the FACT China rampantly STEALS U.S. Intellectual properties & military secrets!

    IMITATION truly IS the SINCEREST FORM of FLATTERY!!!

    APK

    P.S.=> You LOSE dumbfuck (badly) & UNTIL YOU PROVE ALL THE ENTRIES BAD using wildcards CREATES FALSE POSITIVES (going to "wildcard" ALL of say, webhost000.com? Not all sites in it are BAD dumbo) - hosts & SPECIFIC KNOWN BAD SITES don't create those false positives WILDCARDS do dumbass... apk

    1. Re:DNS = FULL OF BAD entries now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you really are fucking dumb. I explained exactly how it can be know that all of those sub domains are bad since they all are resolved using a wildcard DNS entry that resolves all of them to the same location. It is clear you don't understand how DNS wildcarding works so maybe you should educate yourself before going into a stupidity induced rage. Most of what you posted there has nothing to do with the question at hand either so is probably just your attempt to dodge the question some more. So now answer the question of how you can block all subdomains in the example I gave that are resolved with a DNS wildcard since that wildcard resolution is known to be malicious. Your assertion about false positives in bogus given that it is proven that they will not happen in the case as described. Until you understand how name resolution actually works no one should be listening to you on the topic of name resolution.

    2. Re:DNS = FULL OF BAD entries now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You lost on DGA even being handled by APK destroying your last resort https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... and hosts are safer, faster, and don't track you like DNS which is full of redirect poisoning. You been out thought and outsmarted by APK like always as you stalk him by unidentifiable anonymous like the true coward you are.

  72. Re:Been doing THAT for years via hosts files by Pikoro · · Score: 1

    And once again, completely irrelevant. Hosts files have zero to do with caching browser sessions so stop spamming your crap on any discussion about a browser.

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  73. Development hell by devslash0 · · Score: 1

    As if reliably disabling cache in Chrome for development purposes wasn't difficult enough...

  74. Hosts resolve & LOAD the pages faster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts resolve & LOAD the pages faster - period (faster vs. DNS on resolution & SAFER vs. US DHS issues DNS redirect is HUGE danger (not w/ hosts vs.) https://threatpost.com/gov-war... & ICANN ISSUES SAME WARNING https://tech.slashdot.org/stor... for SURE!

    * PLUS hosts remove the 40++% of a page that's ADS (then toss on scripts for tracking too) & you LOAD FAR FASTER, no questions asked!

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly you STUPID FUCK (since I already answered this): The browser ITSELF does the CACHING you DUMB FUCK (& the OS kernelmode diskcache does ALSO (along w/ hosts cached in RAM too))... apk

  75. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Me neither. by shanen · · Score: 1

    Hmm... I feel like there is some confusion about the nature of advertising here. Probably too complicated a topic? One of the dimensions is the old struggle between substance and presentation, and another major dimension involves privacy versus relevance. The more technical dimension of how fast the ads are displayed seems relatively minor to me. There's also an element of propaganda involved, insofar as improved caching is part of it. I frankly believe the liars are more concerned with the number of repetitions than the honest people. The liars know that they need to repeat their lies frequently to give them a greater veneer of truth...

    If you actually have the best value for a certain customer, then all you need to do is inform the customer about what you have and how much it costs. That's NOT how most advertising works. Rather than making great products, there are just a lot of fuzzy attempts to persuade customers that "good enough" products are actually "superior" and worth high, even exorbitant, prices. In the best cases, some of the products actually are superior, but producing superior products is always much more expensive (and less effective in competition) than flogging good enough.

    Of course this is already an effectively dead discussion on Slashdot. There should be some mechanism whereby the lifespan of discussions could be extended. Hmm... Perhaps allow late participants to add special mod points?

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  76. Re:Been doing THAT for years via hosts files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Topic's LOADING WEBPAGES FASTER. Hosts do it resolving faster vs unsafe DNS, blocking ads + scripts. You're a troll STALKING APK by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous like the loser do nothing nobody you are. APK's method works! Everyone knows it. You haven't created a better tool you jealous loser.

  77. Re:Been doing THAT for years via hosts files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use hosts to go faster. Hosts block ads and scripts that track me plus slowing me down if not infecting me. Thanks for a good tool APK. The DNS favorite sites in hosts at the top the way you do it in your program helps load me faster too.

  78. It's clear you LOSE w/ UNSAFE DNS dumbo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's clear you LOSE w/ UNSAFE DNS US DHS issues DNS redirect is HUGE danger https://threatpost.com/gov-war... & ICANN ISSUES SAME WARNING https://tech.slashdot.org/stor... but NOT w/ HOSTS that let you bypass DNS poisoning & resolve you FASTER TOO stupid (& avoid DNS requestlog tracking too).

    * Hosts SPECIFICS don't FUCKUP like redirect poisoned DNS & IF I need specifics, even vs. DGA?

    DGA tracker e.g. #1: https://www.forcepoint.com/blo...

    DGA tracker e.g. #2 https://www.forcepoint.com/blo...

    * YOU LOSE YOU STUPID LITTLE FUCK, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts specifics even vs. a DGA don't screwup & give SPECIFICS that WILDCARDS WILL CREATE FALSE POSITIVES ON dumbo - YOU'VE CREATED A BETTER TOOL THAN MY HOSTS PROGRAM YOURSELF FROM YOUR OWN CODE? Answer THAT & PROVE it (you can't LOSER, lol)... apk

    1. Re:It's clear you LOSE w/ UNSAFE DNS dumbo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So are you trying to say that your work can block 2x10^61 or so sub domains from my example because none of what you provided would indicate that it can. I see you rambling off topic like a moron bringing in a non sequitur, so please try and stay on topic. Then you present a couple of toy problems of some domain lists. Next you continue to ramble on about false positives which in the scenario I outlined would not happen since all of the sub domains are resolved by the same wildcard DNS entry. Finally you demand that I prove I created something better than your work, non sequitur which has nothing to do with the topic at hand which is if your work can block all of the sub domains I outlines in the perfectly valid and very real scenario. You just keep dodging the question because you can't actually answer it, that or you don't understand it. Either way you have confirmed just how fucking stupid you actually are. Now can your software process and block all 2x10^61 or so sub domains from my example or not? It is a yes or no question where yes means you are a fucking liar and no means it provides no security. So answer the fucking question.

  79. Thanks & big win was over DGA idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks & big win was over DGA idiot w/ false positive creating overhead riddled wildcards in DNS https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... which THAT DIMWIT I totally DESTROYED in the post before it (his bs where I put out DGA tracker lists)!

    DNS he depends on w/ wildcards - & WHAT does he STUPIDLY depend on?

    * DNS is a SECURITY NIGHTMARE & even DHS & ICANN said so VERY RECENTLY (like this week, lol).

    APK

    P.S.=> US DHS issues DNS redirect is HUGE danger (not w/ hosts vs.) https://threatpost.com/gov-war... & ICANN ISSUES SAME WARNING https://tech.slashdot.org/stor... ... apk

  80. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Me neither. by cordovaCon83 · · Score: 1

    Hmm... I feel like there is some confusion about the nature of advertising here.

    I was honestly thinking more about e-commerce sites than sites whose primary source of revenue is advertising. I don't see any disconnect in the logic, however. Page loads faster, consumer browses faster, server loads are lowered, consumer appreciates experience more, consumer uses web site more. Profit????

  81. LOL - you FAIL (I block DGA)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL - you FAIL (I block DGA stupid & it does that) + you assume those last: They don't (spam & I let email filters handle those) they are ephemeral.

    * You also made the GIANT MISTAKE arth1 did assuming they can BOTH generate & MANAGE them (they won't even FIT ON DISK dumbo) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    YOUR BIGGEST MISTAKE is DEPENDING on wildcard using DNS which has HUGE ISSUES now US DHS issues DNS redirect is HUGE danger (not w/ hosts vs.) https://threatpost.com/gov-war... & ICANN ISSUES SAME WARNING https://tech.slashdot.org/stor...

    APK

    P.S.=> It's 1 thing to GENERATE them, it's another to MANAGE them (& it's NOT DOABLE per arth1 HUGE FAIL, lol)... apk

    1. Re:LOL - you FAIL (I block DGA)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was a yes or no question stupid fuck and you failed to answer it. You won't answer it and will continue to dodge because if you do you will be exposed as a liar or be forced to admit that your work provides no security. The truth is that your work provides no security and you are a liar. Just because you can't follow the argument and don't understand how DNS wildcard entries work doesn't mean everyone else is a fucking stupid as you are. People who would maliciously use a wildcard DNS entry don't need to keep track of random portion as I originally stated. Arth1 even provided code that showed how random sub domains could be generated on the fly and since any randomly generated subdomain redirects to the same location they don't need to manage them. As such you are the failure and your work can't provide any provable security. I see that you still can't stay on topic but then you are an aspie so that should be expected.

    2. Re:LOL - you FAIL (I block DGA)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you fucked in the head? Apk proved he handles DGA which does what you say by specifics hosts use from DGA trackers. Not vulnerable to DNS redirect poisoning inefficient DNS using wildcards that can cause false positives and block legit sites stupid.

  82. Retarded bitch APK is supporting himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Retarded bitch APK stop replying to your self, it doesn't make you look sane or smart. You lost because are nothing but failure so now you need to post some fake support. You do this all the time when you've been stomped hard as a way to lie to try and convince your self that you aren't a loser but deep down you know the truth even if you won't admit it. You can't follow simple logic or manage to stay on topic so claiming that you out thought or outsmarted anyone is another of your lies that you got caught in. Maybe you can go full retard and blame everything on ZIP, arth1, Zontar, khyber, Ol Olsoc, or c6gunner, or any of the others that have embarrassed you and exposed your retard lies over the years.

    1. Re:Retarded bitch APK is supporting himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a retard who played himself! Apk let you play yourself as you stalk him by unidentifiable anonymous https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... You lose.

  83. Re:Been doing THAT for years via hosts files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, APK. Never change much. Keep championing hosts files.

    But see a professional. You're sounding a little disorganized. Catch it in time to save suffering.

  84. So Chrome will use even more memory?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, it's enough of a memory hog right now. Adding an additional in-memory system (bfcache) is not gonna help. Or did Google decide everyone has enough memory now to get away with it, based on their telemetry?

    Plus PC vs mobile, the common RAM limits of each as a trend, may have gotten far enough along to MAAAAYBE have enough room for in-memory caching, but quit being so greedy damnit!

  85. Re:Would you pay for this feature? Me neither. by shanen · · Score: 1

    I'm not following your logic. As long as the competitors offer roughly comparable shopping experiences, then there is no competitive advantage if the browser makes all of the websites look better. Of course the ceteris paribus is never fully the case, and the e-commerce website that has the best programmers has the advantage, but once again without regard to the browser. Actually, improving one particular browser may even upset the competitive balance if certain customers prefer the "wrong" browser, for whatever reason. (Yes, I do prefer Firefox, though I use Safari, Chrome, and even Opera for various purposes. Pretty sure at least one other on one of my smartphones.)

    There is actually a lot of research on these UI topics. People do want fast responses, but they can't really measure response times very accurately.

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  86. embracing creative maximality by epine · · Score: 1

    Don't really know why I would want to go back and forth within a single tab.

    The answer is obvious: it's because it doesn't make sense for your particular workflow.

    For my own workflow, even with three browser windows full screen on three different monitors, I soon end up with so many tabs open, the tabs shrink to where I can't read the page title, and I start to lose my mental map of how to get back to other contexts I've recently visited.

    This typically happens when I'm involved in adding a lot of new information to my personal wiki, and while in the process of doing so, various small or medium refactoring projects calve off.

    I fork entirely new windows and fill those full of pertinent tabs when this suits the purpose, then close the window entirely when the subtask is complete (I even have an extension which allows me to give the entire window an appropriate working title for the duration).

    Other times I fork off tabs by the dozens in the current working window using middle click (middle click works just about anywhere, including drop down history lists, and weird social media overlays, though with a small number of exceptions concerning pages boasting particularly heinous JavaScript, which I preferentially flee once discovering Cthulhu's grubby fingerprints).

    Other times it's just better to let tabs stack up in my tab history list.

    I pretty much never close a tab without popping down the history stack to see whether I've left a task incomplete. Also, I generally don't navigate backwards page at a time. If there are twenty edit previews stacked up, I use the history list to jump directly across the entire mess.

    I actually modified my wiki software to display the symbol  as the first character of every page title opened in edit mode, so that more of the useful title displays, and it's even more obvious what I need to jump across to restore a previously interrupted context.

    Workflows are highly idiosyncratic. This is why you need features for all types. Mine is a complex hybrid of about five different major workflow patterns. And I use every one for a good reason, proven by the test of time.

    Sometimes while adding new material to my own wiki (often starts with a survey of twenty pertinent articles located in Google search), I decide to annotate my own pages with chunks of leads scraped from pertinent Wikipedia articles. Then I discover that I need to add a handful of related pages to my wiki, so as to keep my topic map precise. Along the way, I discover that one of these Wikipedia pages has a tragically flawed lead, so I stop to fix that, but while I'm fixing that problem I have to confirm that my edit remains valid within the given citation, so I open up the citation, and discover the citation was horrible misused in the first place. So now I have to do another Google search to figure when the citation is salvageable, or if I should just slap in a better cite altogether. But while I'm doing this (now very boring task, if only for five minutes) the idle part of my brain goes "you know what, if you connect X to Y, you might actually get an interesting idea out of it."

    Now the whole point of all this intensive notetaking is to generate creative ideas, so even the smallest glimmer of a creative idea is an immediate stop work order, and then I rush off to file that idea appropriately in my wiki, only to discover that it needs to be linked into page previously opened (with unsaved edits) as part of a suspended refactor.

    Now I need to be very astute, and unwind exactly enough to capture the new idea, without losing partially finished work from a previous refactor, or complicating my route back so much that I lose the bubble before closing off all the broken edges.

    At this point, long stacked edits in a single tab history are a godsend.

    I can drop the history list down, middle click from somewhere in its depths to extract a page to edit out of sequence, then back the tab back to

  87. Re:Been doing THAT for years via hosts files by Pikoro · · Score: 1

    The topic is loading _cached_ pages faster. Basic reading comprehension is required. Also, everyone knows this is you APK, stop pretending to be other people who defend your idiocy.

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    "Freedom in the USA is not the ability to do what you want. It is the ability to stop others from doing what THEY want"
  88. retarded bitch APK is conversing with himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look the retarded bitch Alexander Peter Kowalski is now conversing with himself. He must have forgotten that he posted some unsigned comments to make it look like someone supports him or his multiple personality disorder is not under control anymore. Unfortunately his pretend friends write just like him and if they aren't pretend then they are even bigger retards than he is as they always come out after he has been stomped hard and isn't defending himself anymore.

    1. Re:retarded bitch APK is conversing with himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You stalk apk by unidentifiable anonymous and you got played. You played yourself and apk burned you badly https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... you lose.

  89. DNS = very vulnerable now & I cover DGA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & does what you say matter now? Not vs. US DHS issues DNS redirect is HUGE danger (not w/ hosts vs.) https://threatpost.com/gov-war... & ICANN ISSUES SAME WARNING https://tech.slashdot.org/stor...

    YOU CAN'T TRUST DNS RIGHT NOW & it uses WILDCARDS (inefficient & cause false positives)!

    What do YOU suggest to use vs. DGA? Wildcards (lol) & DNS!

    HOW DO I GET SPECIFIC BLOCKING INFO. vs. DGA ATTACK?

    DGA tracker e.g. #1: https://www.forcepoint.com/blo...

    DGA tracker e.g. #2 https://www.forcepoint.com/blo...

    (You got PLAYED - you PLAYED YOURSELF, lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I know EXACTLY how it ALL works - you don't apparently! I cover even DGA attacks with SPECIFICS - not false positive generating wildcarding tools like VULNERABLE DNS dumbo... you lose! apik

  90. Re:Been doing THAT for years via hosts files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You got played. You professionally played yourself. You lose and Apk totalled you easily https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

  91. FACT (hosts make pages load faster)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Title of article = "Chrome Should Get 'Extremely Fast' at Loading a Whole Lot of Web Pages" & what do hosts do? Make pages load faster!

    A quote from another article: "Blocking ads and trackers has long been known to improve browser performance" FROM https://www.theregister.co.uk/...

    QUESTION: WHAT DO HOSTS FILES DO STUPID AUTISMO? ANSWER = THEY BLOCK ADS & TRACKERS!

    APK

    P.S.=> Thus, they make BROWSERS LOAD PAGES FASTER you autistic MORON, lol - & YOU built a BETTER PROGRAM FOR IT THAN I HAVE? Hell no - you're just another DO-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" puny brain-damaged "AUTISMO", a menial with NO REAL SKILLS, lol... apk

    1. Re:FACT (hosts make pages load faster)... apk by Pikoro · · Score: 1

      So why are you quoting an article that doesn't have anything to do with this one?

      Your claim that blocking ads has anything to do with browser cache and claiming that since they both offer a speed improvement that thy're remotely related. They're not. That's like claiming that, since cars use gasoline, and airplanes use gasoline, that your recipe for maltov cocktails is relevant. It's not. Stop it.

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      "Freedom in the USA is not the ability to do what you want. It is the ability to stop others from doing what THEY want"
  92. Don't need wildcards & their false positives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject - IF I encounter a DGA I find trackers for it & get SPECIFIC precise info on what to block https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... MINUS the false positives caused by WILDCARDS in SECURITY ISSUE LADEN systems like DNS (it's got issues in redirect poisoning shown there with proof from ICANN & DHS).

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts always win... apk

  93. Retarded bitch APK's pretend friend is here now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see that retarded bitch Alexander Peter Kowalski's pretend friend is here to defend him again. Sorry shit for brains all of your work is made pointless by a wildcard DNS entry and a few lines of code to generate random sub domains that will all be directed to the same location using the wildcard DNS entry. Your retarded ass even admitted that you can't store the number of entries needed to block all subdomains at a single level deep let alone all possiable sub domains. You could only present a toy problem that has nothing to do with sub domains because you are just too fucking dumb to actually understand the problem. If you aren't APK then you are an even bigger fucking retard than he is, but since you only show up after his ass got stomped and then only post right after he made a post it is really just you the retarded bitch Alexander Peter Kowalski posting fake support like the loser you are.

    1. Re:Retarded bitch APK's pretend friend is here now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DHS\ICANN say DNS is poisoned. DNS wildcards can do false positives. DGA trackers give apk specific blocks vs your fail to get the better of APK.

    2. Re:Retarded bitch APK's pretend friend is here now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's no surprise that APK loses once again.

    3. Re:Retarded bitch APK's pretend friend is here now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK kicked your ass again https://it.slashdot.org/commen... after he did here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... in this thread before it. You totally lost.

  94. Retarded bitch APK is the one who got played by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry retarded bitch Alexander Peter Kowalski you were the one who got played. You are the one who keep posting the fake support posts for your self. You are the one who's work offers no security since you can't block all subdomains even a single level deep (or even some value of them approaching 0.01%), yet alone all possible subdomains under a domain. You are the one who doesn't understand how a DNS wildcard entry works. Face it you are a failure just like your work but are such a loser you won't even admit it to your self. Everything you have done amounts to nothing, especially when your crowning achievements are living in a $1 house in the slums of the dump of the city of Syracuse, and writing a string sorter that you call security software that is proven to provide no real security.

    1. Re:Retarded bitch APK is the one who got played by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DHS\ICANN say DNS is poisoned. DNS wildcards can do false positives. DGA trackers give apk specific blocks vs your fail to get the better of APK!

  95. Retarded bitch APK stop referring to yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Retarded bitch Alexander Peter Kowalski stop referring to yourself in the 3rd person, it doesn't make you look sane or smart. Instead it makes you look like a giant fucking loser who can't admit that his ass got stomped hard. If you aren't APK then you are an even bigger fucking retard than he has proven to be as he isn't even trying to counter the valid and true criticism of him and his work. Reality is that we all know it is you posting fake support of your self and getting caught in more of your shit bag lies.

    1. Re:Retarded bitch APK stop referring to yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To retard projecting his fail stalking apk by unidentifiable anon: DHS\ICANN say DNS = poisoned. DNS wildcards = false positives. DGA trackers = specific blocks vs your fail to get the better of APK. Do the math. You fail.

  96. Try again retarded bitch APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try again retarded bitch Alexander Peter Kowalski. It is you that keeps getting caught in your lies and falsehoods. Then it gets exposed and you are forced to pretend someone actually supports you and get caught in more of your lies. Your retarded ass keeps getting stomped but then all you know is failure so it is to be expected. If you aren't APK then you are an even bigger retard than he is as he isn't even bother to defend himself against the perfectly valid and entirely true criticisms of him and his work. Keep telling your self you aren't a loser and maybe some day you will actually believe it but deep down you know the truth about your $1 house and string sorter.

    1. Re:Try again retarded bitch APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK said no falsehood. DHS\ICANN say DNS is poisoned. DNS wildcards can do false positives. DGA trackers give apk specific blocks vs your fail to get the better of APK.

  97. You're really stupid aren't you? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Title of this /. article "Chrome Should Get 'Extremely Fast' at Loading a Whole Lot of Web Pages" & other says same by blocking ads/scripts etc. to make you go faster too.

    * It's WHAT HOSTS DOES (& TONS more too).

    APK

    P.S.=> Let the browser cache - I always said it did (so does the OS kernelmode diskcache) but the title of THIS ARTICLE ON /. is about SPEED - hosts give you THAT & FAR MORE (security, reliability, anonymity also (triple bonus))... apk