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Listening To Music May Be Damaging Your Creativity (newatlas.com)

The results of a new study suggest that listening to music can significantly impair your ability to perform creative tasks. Whilst music was found to disrupt creative processes, ambient "library noise" was found to have no significant effect. From a report: The first experiment saw volunteers complete tasks while being played music with vocals that wouldn't mean anything to them -- for example, English-speaking listeners being played music with Spanish lyrics. In the second experiment, the participants were played instrumental music with no vocals, and in the third the volunteers were played music with familiar lyrics that they could understand. During the third experiment, the participants were also subjected to "library noise" conditions, which involved ambient noise such as unintelligible distant speech, photocopier noise, typing, and the rustling of papers.

The team discovered that creative performance dropped significantly when listening to music over the course of all three exercises, as compared to periods during which participants were allowed to complete the exercises without distraction. Even when participants declared that the music improved their overall mood, in the third exercise, it still impaired creativity.

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  1. In Other Words, Being Distracted... by sycodon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...impairs any intellectual endeavor.

    Hell, even musicians have to dial back the "listening" part in order to concentrate on playing the part. If you get too caught up in the piece, you will miss entrances, etc.

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    1. Re:In Other Words, Being Distracted... by Humbubba · · Score: 1

      The Mo Tard Effect.

    2. Re:In Other Words, Being Distracted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Key bit from the article is that other distractions, e.g. background noise you'd expect in a library, have no impact on creativity. My take is that the new info here is that music is in a category of sound that distracts instead of being neutral or enhancing creativity.

    3. Re: In Other Words, Being Distracted... by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      Choking is a sign of inexperience.

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    4. Re:In Other Words, Being Distracted... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      ...impairs any intellectual endeavor.

      Don't know about that. I used to do *hours* of Calculus homework while wearing headphones with the music cranked up -- to drown out other distractions, including too much quite (which is why I usually couldn't study in the library). Don't know if Calculus homework counts as "creativity" though ...

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    5. Re:In Other Words, Being Distracted... by dargaud · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I don't see how that is 'news'. When I was a kid (a long time ago), my father always told me to do my homework without music, as it was distracting. Then as a university student I had a GF who would always listen to music while studying. I told her. She stopped and her grades improved significantly as a result and she thanked me for it.

      Yes, there are situation where listening to music while working can be beneficial (*), but basically if you are listening, then part of your brain is on the music, and if you are not listening you might as well turn it off.

      (*) Death metal while debugging to stay aggressive and angry at this fucking bug !

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    6. Re: In Other Words, Being Distracted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Metal with incomprehensible lyrics really is a secret weapon for staying focused on a task.

  2. Alternate headline: Distractions are distracting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Distractions are distracting and cause one to lose focus. The more distracting, the more you are distracted from the distractions.

    Unfortunately, distractions that distract you from other distractions only further distract you.

    Now back to my Ted Nugent....

  3. Incredibly bad study by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

    The style of music will impact everyone differently.
    The current mood of the person and the tasks to accomplish will also alter the impact of the music.

    Simply going with "lyrics that can be understood, lyrics in another language and no lyrics at all" is an incredibly short-sighted choice of parameters for such a study.

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    1. Re:Incredibly bad study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think that work music is an incredibly personal choice. The music that makes me productive isn't necessarily the music that I really want to listen to. It tends to be electronic or classical, tends to have no or just simple lyrics, tends to be old and worn out. Just the old standbys.
      It would be interesting to see how things change when the participants have to write code and listen to the music they think works best. How many lines of code were influenced by Prodigy Voodoo people after Hackers came out?

    2. Re:Incredibly bad study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Source? Otherwise you're just another random person on the internet refuting a scientific study with a couple statements you just made up...

    3. Re:Incredibly bad study by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      This is in direct conflict with the Mozart Effect (Which was brand new, very popular, and not yet debunked when I was in college). Although there are some studies out there that show children that learn to play a musical instruments at a young age have better coordination and pattern recognition later but that is simply because they practiced those skills while learning to play their instrument.

    4. Re:Incredibly bad study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please do note that the subjects of the study reported that music was helping them, while in fact it wasn't. So what kind of research data do you have to back up your words? Or are you going with your gut feeling?

    5. Re: Incredibly bad study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Scientific study" LUL

    6. Re: Incredibly bad study by thomst · · Score: 1

      DontBeAMoran opined:

      The style of music will impact everyone differently. The current mood of the person and the tasks to accomplish will also alter the impact of the music.

      Simply going with "lyrics that can be understood, lyrics in another language and no lyrics at all" is an incredibly short-sighted choice of parameters for such a study.

      Did you read the actual study, or just TFS's warmed-over rewrite of NewAtlas's almost-indistinguishable-from-the-original summary of the Lancaster University press release about it?

      Because judging an experiment's design from a xerox of a xerox of a dumbed-down-in-the-first-place press release about it lends your critique something more than a little short of credibility.

      Then again, this is Slashdot, so I'm going to go with Door # 2 ...

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    7. Re: Incredibly bad study by fj3k · · Score: 2

      They didn't say it helped, they said it improved their mood. And you don't need couter studies to declare this to be not scientific.

      What they tested:

      1. No music, no ambient sound
      2. Foreign lyric music, no ambient sound
      3. Instrumental music, no ambient sound
      4. Native lyric music, library ambient sound

      Problems with this approach:

      • They had two variables, and didn't isolate them.
      • They only tested one dimension of the appropriateness of the music (lyric intelligibility). They should have at least tested a sampling of styles as well.
      • They only tested one type of background noise. And they called it consistent. We already know that consistent background noise has less impact than inconsistent background noise.
      • There's only one type of task, and it only requires simple, momentary concentration. The effects of music on longer-period concentration or more complex tasks is unmeasured
      • There's no breakdown of people stated preference versus actual performance.
      • The study only states that people who reported that music improved their mood had reduced performance in the library noise test, but they blame it on the music (which is curious).

      The point is that this study doesn't do a satisfactory job of answering the question it claims to. In fact, it's almost like they had a pet theory and set out to prove it.

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    8. Re:Incredibly bad study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention "music I have heard 100x before" versus whatever crap they decided to stream.

      If the study did not include that then it is not useful for me and many others...

      I cannot pull a 10+ hour day programming without music.

      Stop me listening to music while I work, I stop turning up for work. Period.

    9. Re: Incredibly bad study by bursch-X · · Score: 1

      In a long standing tradition of Slashdot I didn't read the article, but how the hell did they measure "creativity"?

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    10. Re: Incredibly bad study by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 1

      Other problems here!

      • The task in question is a word-linking game with apparently only one solution accepted as correct, according to the linked article at New Atlas.
      • Brief concentration/focus is not creativity, and I don't even know how you could accidentally confuse the two unless you'd never been creative in your entire life and had studiously avoided all research on creativity...of which there's quite a bit.
      • Consistent background noise is not a good choice here--background noise is not consistent, which is a major reason why people will use music which is, mostly, but that's getting into music theory and the technical aspects of what makes the difference between 'random noise' and 'music.' (In fact, a consistent library ambient noise segment could easily be counted as an very avant guard musical composition, especially since you would have to deliberately build it in order for it to be consistent.)
      • By using non-naturalistic 'library ambient sound' they effectively turned the last into 'Native lyric music, ambient sounds-based music.'
      • Lyric intelligibility may actually be the worst dimension to pick here--especially since they seem to have either varied what languages the foreign lyric music was in or not bothered to ensure that the test subjects did not speak any of that language. (A better choice might have been to choose pieces where the lyrics are not in any language, they just sound like they're in some unknown language.) The style of music might have very much been a better thing to have vary, if you were going to have the music vary.

      I'd actually say it's not 'almost like' but 'probably is, really.

  4. Bullshit article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bullshit article

  5. just one version of the truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    usually a brief synopses.. cease fire stand down.. creation values us all the same? new duopoly math lends to; 2+1= 1 too many, for most of us unchosens? it's all batfarm now? creation (electricity goo & magnets, plus a special unvisible ingredient) provides more than enough of everything we need with no personal gain motive? no signup or subscription fees ever.. that's the spirit.. the hills are alive.. thanks again

    1. Re:just one version of the truth by PPH · · Score: 2

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    2. Re:just one version of the truth by J053 · · Score: 1

      We really need a "-1 Batshit Crazy" mod.

  6. Over what period of time... Other distractions? by Junta · · Score: 1

    With respect to duration, yes music is a distraction, but as work goes on does the impact to morale offset the distraction?

    Also, if the music is serving to filter out other distractions (e.g. open landscape office area), is the music less distracting than office noice (conversations and such)?

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    1. Re:Over what period of time... Other distractions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their methods section was "30 min of participation time" ... If you can cram creativity into 30 min I will do whatever the hell is asked of me.

    2. Re:Over what period of time... Other distractions? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      For me, music will often help my productivity/creativity because it gives my brain a built-in distraction. So instead of deciding to check out Slashdot, Reddit, or some other Internet site "just for a minute", I'll just listen more to the lyrics when my brain needs a mini-break. I'm less likely to find myself having wasted three hours listening to music than browsing the web.

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    3. Re:Over what period of time... Other distractions? by darkain · · Score: 1

      Yeeeup, exactly this! I'm a software engineer. Aint no way in hell are the creative problems I work on solvable in 30 minutes.

      On a small scale, sure, music may help creativity on projects that can be solved quickly. But on larger and more lengthy projects? Music is a godsend. It helps keep the mind sane.

    4. Re:Over what period of time... Other distractions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I've used music to drown out background noise in the office when I really need to concentrate on something and found it MUCH easier to concentrate with a well-known familiar friend of a song pounding my brain than the typical cube-farm banter of what someone's kids did to the neighbor's dog and how cute they think it is. This study was loaded with a wanted outcome and did everything it could to get there, like most studies.

    5. Re:Over what period of time... Other distractions? by magzteel · · Score: 1

      For me, music will often help my productivity/creativity because it gives my brain a built-in distraction. So instead of deciding to check out Slashdot, Reddit, or some other Internet site "just for a minute", I'll just listen more to the lyrics when my brain needs a mini-break. I'm less likely to find myself having wasted three hours listening to music than browsing the web.

      I agree with you. It helps me get in the zone. Without it my brain is a chaotic place.

      The unfortunate thing is, the music that gets me in the zone today may stop doing it tomorrow. My brain stays chaotic instead of lining up. It could take a while to find the next one that works. Happily once it does I am a machine.

  7. Not usually in the purpose of listening by Hydrian · · Score: 4, Informative

    I know I'm not alone here but many people listen to music to muffle the distracting chit-chat of office space. That unconscious listening to other peoples conversion is far more detrimental to creativity/focus that listening to music. Maybe I'm a bit more susceptible to it than others because I have ADHD, but I often find myself being pulled in to other conversions even when I don't need to be in them. I find using intramental music works the best to keep focused. I know anything with lyrics engages my brain in a different way that makes it hard to concentrate on a task.

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    1. Re:Not usually in the purpose of listening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fool! Everyone knows that an open plan office is the absolutely best for work productivity and creativity!

      The mere fact that you're having to use music (which distracts you), to block out all the even MORE distracting noise.. is just you not being a team player. After all, walls and offices and space costs, you know.

      And how dare you not want dogs to constantly visit you, bark, make noise, and generally add to the overall distraction! Clearly, if you don't want dogs around every second of every day, you must *hate* them.

      You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Really!

    2. Re:Not usually in the purpose of listening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Same. Oddly the best music almost goes away itself and lets me completely focus. While it's on all the time, I'll find myself actually listening to it during a 'break' and realize that I've completely not heard the last 20 or 30 minutes.

    3. Re:Not usually in the purpose of listening by Drethon · · Score: 1

      I find using intramental music works the best to keep focused. I know anything with lyrics engages my brain in a different way that makes it hard to concentrate on a task.

      This is one of the big things for me. When I've heard the song enough times to memorize it, instrumental or lyrics (instrumental more so), it seems to just kind of put the listening type of my brain into a flow. This makes it easier to filter out the background noise and think about what I'm working on, not thinking about what someone just said. Maybe I'm just deluding myself but this has always worked best in the office, no music at home.

    4. Re: Not usually in the purpose of listening by KayleeScruggs · · Score: 1

      Same here. When I code, I put music on and get into a flow state. The only problem I've found is not always understanding what I wrote.

    5. Re: Not usually in the purpose of listening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I can't write code without music. Ambient techno, in particular. Anything with lyrics doesn't work.

      And it boggles my mind how much companies will pay me to write software, and then put me at a desk in open floor space where I can't concentrate.

    6. Re: Not usually in the purpose of listening by TimMD909 · · Score: 1

      I find chill out electronica sans lyrics helps me the most. Dark rooms help too. Basically, I need to shut out the world. Maybe it is the ADHD, and here's my argument: we need a certain amount of... Oh shit! Look at that squirrel!

  8. How do you measure Creative Performance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Source and citation both come off as horse shit.

  9. Music from the 2000's definiately by WCMI92 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Listen to music from the 1980's or 1970's. When artists were actually involved instead of just formulas. When there was no autotune so you actually had singers...

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    1. Re:Music from the 2000's definiately by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Listen to music from the 1980's or 1970's. When artists were actually involved instead of just formulas. When there was no autotune so you actually had singers...

      ... and those kids should get off your lawn, amirite?

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    2. Re:Music from the 2000's definiately by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 4, Funny

      Listen to music from the 1980's or 1970's. When artists were actually involved instead of just formulas. When there was no autotune so you actually had singers...

      ... and those kids should get off your lawn, amirite?

      Yes ... yes they should :)

    3. Re: Music from the 2000's definiately by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope listen to 91-94 Breakbeat Hardcore and Jungle. The last time creativity was involved in the music production process.

    4. Re:Music from the 2000's definiately by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or just listen to good music... They didn't stop making it.

  10. I'll be OK by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm listening to rap, not music.

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    1. Re:I'll be OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there is a 'C' missing in front of the style of 'music' you listen to

    2. Re:I'll be OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's chip-hop?

    3. Re:I'll be OK by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      I'm listening to rap, not music.

      Well, after all.....

      The words 'rap' and 'music' are mutually exclusive terms.

      ;)

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    4. Re:I'll be OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chip-Chop is a favourite style of urban cultural expression involving thai sticks, wox and watching The Karate Kid over and over.
      Chip-Chop!

    5. Re:I'll be OK by tepples · · Score: 2

      Chip-hop is hip-hop music synthesized with simple square waves in the style of 1980s home computers and game consoles.

    6. Re:I'll be OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you often have to have jokes explained to you?

    7. Re:I'll be OK by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      Then you're not just losing creativity. You're losing IQ.

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    8. Re:I'll be OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congratulations, you have identified the joke

    9. Re:I'll be OK by AndrewFlagg · · Score: 1

      awesome! as i rotate the vinyl in reverse known as backwards of pink floyd the wall.

    10. Re:I'll be OK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So then, Chop-Chop is a style of rap performed by genteel upper-class British folks?

  11. wrong question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The music isn't there to help me focus. It's there so that after 6 hours of coding at my desk I don't start banging my head against the wall. The office is so quiet, it offers background noise and helps me make it through hours upon hours of work.

    1. Re:wrong question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The music isn't there to help me focus. ... The office is so quiet, it offers background noise and helps me make it through hours upon hours of work.

      Some people would kill ... ermm, maybe rather not ... to have such a workplace.

  12. One scenario is sorely missing by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That of the open plan office: People walking about, doors slamming every now and then, phones ringing and a constant buzz of people yakking. We should definitely test how this improves your concentration, since management thinks it must be the best kind of environment.

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    1. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They think it is the *cheapest* type of environment. That's all it is about.

      Walls take up substantial space, and if you have walls you need a bit more space -- otherwise it seems closed in.

      Every single bather about open office space comes down to cost, and you can read articles, papers discussing cost savings, by economists, going back decades.

      When people say that an "open office" space is , it's the same as people calling a small apartment "cozy". It's not cozy, it's damned small, but cozy makes it sound better.

      What I find amusing is that loads of coders think open office is awesome, then still shove earphones in their heads and ignore everyone and everything around them.

      What?!

    2. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by thevirtualcat · · Score: 4, Funny

      To be honest, this headline was all I needed to justify banning headphones and music in my newly remodeled open office floorplan. I didn't even need to read the article. Of course, being that I'm a typical C-level executive, I have my own office and no distractions. My employees are just entitled millennials who need to get back to work and quit their bitching. /s

    3. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by PPH · · Score: 3

      since management thinks it must be the best kind of environment

      So why do the managers get their own offices? Following their arguments, they must not be performing as well. That star CEO your company hired should be sitting in the middle of the shop floor, with all the assembly-line workers yakking about football pools and whether Ford or Chevy make the shittiest pickup trucks.

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    4. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once refused a job because during the interview they said it would "look bad" if we were wearing headphones to listen to music.

      Job was doing support on Solaris workstations for day traders.

      Very likely only the tip of the iceburg of dumb crap to deal with.

    5. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      You can thank OSHA and the NFPA for your oppressive open floor plan.

      If cubicle walls are greater than 4 feet high, all kinds of nasty regulatory requirements are triggered. You actually cannot install cubicles in older offices that haven't had their fire sprinkler density increased to compensate for the high walls blocking water travel.

      Other new requirements are triggered when a person in the 10% percentile for height cannot make line of sight eye contact while standing to at least two exit signs from any habitable location in a room (you have to have this certified by an industrial hygienist to get an occupancy permit, btw). Having a 6 foot high cubicle farm almost guarantees you must comply with impaired visibility requirements, which costs about $50k for compliance checks up front and then more for the recurring audits.

      The list goes on.

    6. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many places I've worked banned streaming music because of bandwidth.

      Seriously? You're going to pay me six figures and then crush my productivity because 65kbps of bandwidth costs too much?

    7. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by Jason+Levine · · Score: 3

      The big test is: Are management giving up their offices and going with the open office plan? Or do they say that this will help us and then walk back into their offices and close their doors?

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    8. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it's certainly better to have sprinklers that can put out a fire when you have cubicles. What are you actually complaining about? Short people shouldn't be able to see fire exits?

    9. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want to be multicultural and whatnot, you can't have employee privacy. All the distractions are better than having life-ruining accusations thrown at you by a jealous colleague.

      All it takes is a "So and so said a wrongthink word!" And your life is ruined. No thanks.

    10. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IT's vastly cheaper because when everyone is in plain sight nobody can make accusations that can cost the company millions in legal and PR fees.

      "So and so flirted with me!" .. game over. "So and so said 'train' and it reminded me of the 6 billion!" .. the end.

      We live in an age of recreational outrage where everyone is jostling for a spot on the victim hierarchy.

    11. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by jbengt · · Score: 1

      You are mistaken on NFPA requirements for sprinklers (local codes may vary).
      There are specific rules on density and on distances to obstructions, but 6 foot high cubicle partitions would not trigger changes to sprinkler head layout for a typical 8 foot high ceiling, and density requirements would not be affected at all, unless maybe the partitions were combustible. Density requirements are based on the occupancy and building construction classifications. Office space in non-combustible construction results in light hazard sprinkler density requirements. Sprinkler layout would only need to take into account obstructions from partial height walls if the sprinklers were less than 18" above the top of the partition.

    12. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by antdude · · Score: 1

      I'm glad I was born mostly deaf to turn off/down my hearing aid. Ahh, peace and quiet! I guess you could wear ear plugs. ;)

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    13. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Dear boss, I found something new
      More of money, less of you.

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    14. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Job perks can save you a LOT of money in the long run. We have a near-unlimited training fund, no restrictions on internet use, a very relaxed dress code (as long as it covers what I don't want to see on anyone but a person I love very much I'm happy), very flexible working hours (no meetings permitting) and a few things more.

      The pay is quite a bit below market, and we still have zero problem getting talented people. At some point, money stops being interesting.

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    15. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Funny enough, I kinda did do just that. Workers are a CISO's best sensor network, can't buy a better one.

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    16. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by thevirtualcat · · Score: 1

      I truly wish I could put mod points on replies to my own comments. (+1, Funny)

    17. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Dolly Parton? Johnny Paycheck? Kraftwerk?

      Out with it, man!

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    18. Re:One scenario is sorely missing by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Out with what?

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  13. Derp alert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Bull and shit. Millennials, I don't care how many degrees you may have (modern degrees are nothing to brag about) - you, and your surveys are *not* smart. Quite the opposite of this is true, in fact. You know what killed your creativity, millies? Your parents and their helicoptering, and your mobile devices. You didn't form the neural pathways when you were children, and I honestly don't know if that can be corrected.

    1. Re:Derp alert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It actually cannot be corrected. I have been researching the psychology of device dependence for almost 10 years, and what I and my group have repeatedly found is that the damage done by device addiction during formative brain development cannot be undone.

      What happens is that you give a child who has not developed judgment yet, a device they can use to give themselves a dopamine response any time they want it. What they end up doing is, of course, O/Ding on dopamine while the brain is developing, which in turn causes the brain to become less and less sensitive to it by growing fewer dopamine receptors.

      This can have disastrous effects later in life, and not just psychologically. Besides the inability to find enjoyment in anything naturally, there are serious physical consequences to dopamine insensitivity.

      From an emotional standpoint, lacking dopamine receptors means that things that should bring feelings of wellbeing, happiness, and joy, just don't - not without help. It should come as no surprise that a very high percentage of children who grow up unchecked with reward-administering devices end up requiring neurostimulant and/or antidepressant drugs to lead a normal life later on. We basically have an entire generation who will require ADHD or depression medication for their entire lives.

      Dopamine makes for fascinating research. It's just sad what you discover sometimes, though.

    2. Re:Derp alert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people are uncreative. They're just much more visible on the web, now that it caters to the masses.
      You can still find great creativity if you search it out.

    3. Re:Derp alert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry for my tone, I'm just very resentful of my own generation.

    4. Re: Derp alert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is one of your generation's defining characteristics.

  14. Connectivity is not Creativity by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They only gave one example of the article but I'm highly dubious of the ability to "measure creativity".

    The example they gave - linking related words - does not to me seem a "creative" task, but more analytical.

    I do think lyrics can be more distracting than music without though,

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    1. Re:Connectivity is not Creativity by swell · · Score: 1

      Correct.

      One of the most important elements in creative thinking is un-focusing. To the extent that you are focused on, for instance, a complex math problem, you are likely to become frustrated and fail to come to an ideal solution. The best thing you can do is to relax a while, think about something else, come back to the problem later. Relaxing with music might be ideal, depending upon your proclivities.

      Salvador Dali, in his autobiography, stated that his best inspirations come to him when he first awakes and is enjoying his morning pee. It is those moments of reverie that inspire creativity, not straining to focus on some trivial chore while listening to music.

      This study seems to have used a bizarre definition of 'creativity'.

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  15. Exact same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Same experience exactly.
    ADHD, conversations.. especially technical ones, but it could be anything that I'd rather talk about than do whatever it is I have to do at work. It's about closing myself off and isolating myself with nothing but my work. I can't have music that evokes feelings or deals with topics or has clever or funny parts.
    Just tired old background noise. But I have to imagine that while others probably share some of my work favorites, it's going to be personal for each person. I want to feel like cyborg from the future hacking gibsons, I need the music to be stale and worn out. Usually stuff with "favorite parts" is not good.
    If you made a selection for me it would probably not do it for me. Lyrics or not.

  16. music is background noise by Revek · · Score: 3

    I use it to damp out all the noise the other monkeys make.

  17. Distraction with a purpose by Daetrin · · Score: 1

    I'm quite willing to believe that listening to music is distracting. However in my case if i don't have _any_ distractions i get bored with my current task and let myself get sidelined completely by more significant distractions. (...like Slashdot =P) Being a little distracted by audio is far better than getting totally distracted by something else.

    I have three different categories of things i listen to at work, music, podcasts, and audiobooks. Each of which works well for a certain task. If i'm doing something totally repetitive and mind-numbing audiobooks work well. For most other tasks podcasts are only slightly more distracting than music, unless the task in question involves a lot of mental verbalization (filling out a form, writing an email, etc) in which case podcasts take up too much of that part of my brain. Music is also best if i need something to match or adjust my mood, either bouncing along in a hyper mood or trying to wake myself up if i'm feeling slow. But because music also provides the least distraction i'll find myself straying from my work tasks more often than with podcasts.

    And pretty much all of them are better than listening to people having loud conversations at the desks right next to me or in the meeting room right around the corner that usually has the doors left open for some reason.

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  18. Yeah - bullshit by the_skywise · · Score: 1
    I'll agree that music doesn't affect creativity - but whether or not its a distraction or benefit is not a uniform response.
    For coding purposes the right music will get me into the zone and help me concentrate and bang out the logic.
    When problem solving directly it CAN be a distraction but it can also help as the music can inspire other creative interpretations of the problem. This is similar to the shower effect where, after banging your head against a problem, the solution presents itself while you're thinking of other things in the shower and your subconscious kicks in.
    At its best, music is motivational, for both coding, problem solving and even workouts - to help focus brain power and shift mental energies.

    My dear girl, there are some things that just aren't done, such as drinking Dom Perignon '53 above the temperature of 38 degrees Fahrenheit. That's just as bad as listening to the Beatles without earmuffs!

  19. Yup. Can't code or do art with music playing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yup. Can't code or do art with music playing. Doesn't matter what type of music. I can, however, play music creatively while others also play music. Thankfully so, otherwise orchestras would not exist.

  20. depends what kind of music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    music, with no lyrics doe not distract me, Classical, or meditation (like the singing bowls)

  21. Bag o' shite. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sure this "study" won't be replicated in 5 years time. It's almost certainly a load of utter bollocks, like most studies.

  22. Yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is well known to writers. But most say you can listen to music without lyrics. Or oddly I hear many say that Bob Dylan works. But when I code I mostly listen to synthwave, trap, or video game music. Sometimes rap cause you ignore the lyrics and listen to the beat.

  23. Speaking of people I know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Particularly artists, musicians, and programmers, they all listen to music while being creative. Many potters and chefs too. The music is both a way to push out ambient noise, but can also be a source of creative inspiration itself, causing a variety of mental stimulation. These claims might merit further review but seem on the surface to be based on a false premise, just going off real life observations.

  24. How do you measure creativity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and a loss of it? Creativity isn't like a faucet of ideas under regulated pressure. It comes and goes.

  25. How would you know when you were done? by circusboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A photography teacher I had in college held that the problem with creating artwork while listening to music was that when you are creating, you are creating until you feel good about the creation. if you are listening to music, it may make you feel good. How do you know when you're done?

    over the years I've noticed that whenever I work (creatively) to music, when I look at the work later, it's always bad. working mechanically to music, (i.e. simply performing a process) it's different, because how you feel about the work is less important.

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  26. Alternative title.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Researcher finds results they were looking for.

    Why would you use tests to measure verbal performance while listening to music? This is like asking people to memorize numbers or do math while driving, and claiming that activity X distracted them from driving.

    You want to test creativity, have them write an essay while listening to music, and write a different essay while not listening to music, and determine the quality, and speed, of the essay written.

    Verbal quizzes are a different thing-- why do you think Jeopardy plays the theme during final jeopardy? It's not to help the contestants.

  27. Substandard study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This study is meaningless.

    The article states, "Three experiments were conducted in which the volunteers were asked to carry out a series of tasks commonly used to measure creative verbal performance."

    So, their study covers the left brain functions, but completely fail to consider the right brain.

    If you're looking for a meaningful correlation between music and creativity, this study from 1993 seems much more apropos.

  28. Results of a new study suggest: study is flawed by drainbramage · · Score: 1

    Amazing, making people listen to music NOT of their choosing results in distraction.
    This is sooo far from science.Give them a nobel prize.
    I mean Ig Nobel Prize, they earned it.
    https://www.improbable.com/ig/...

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  29. Utter BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nuff said!

  30. Interesting... by stevenfuzz · · Score: 1

    I absolutely can't listen to music with vocals while I code. Instrumental music however, gets me plugged in.

  31. I'm going to call BS... by NecroPuppy · · Score: 1

    At least in part.

    I've written some of my better code while listening to music.

    I mean, sure, some of the variable names end up being whatever act I'm listening to, but as long as I'm consistent, that's fine.

    I think it's mostly that I'm not paying full attention to it, but have it there to drown out the random inanities of my coworkers.

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  32. Bad? Says who? by Pollux · · Score: 1

    Did you even read this study? Or are you some armchair pundit who just threw in your two cents? Because the study cited a previous study that already tried to assess music's impact on mood:

    From the study: Ritter and Ferguson showed that a beneficial effect of music on creative task performance was limited to a comparison between a silent condition and a socalled “happy music” condition (Vivaldi's “Four Seasons”). Exposure to “calm music,” “sad music,” and “anxious music” had no impact on creative task performance...The benefit to creative task performance could have been driven by increases in mood and arousal rather than the presence of the music per se.

    This study's exact purpose was to assess the relationship between music and creativity, not the relationship between mood and creativity. Because the cited study already analyzed that relationship, there was no need for them to.

  33. i guess i am the exception by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think i have ADD... not ADHD(not hyperactive at all). If i need to get serious work done or need to do something with great concentration, I have to have music on... the heavier the better. The part of my brain that say "SQUIRREL!" loves music. I keep it occupied with music so i can get real work done. Otherwise I lose concentration badly.

  34. the lyrics do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simply put it got to the point that I'd concentrate on the lyrics instead of working.
    Thus, out went the music with lyrics.
    In came more productivity.

    Of course my job requires long warm ups and extended effort concentrating on a larger problem so disruptions harm productivity.

    Longer term, I stopped listening to music at the office by me and only gets played when I'm on the gliding landing path towards finishing a big chunk of work or on Friday late afternoon.

    In this process, listened to dozens of full albums of instrumental rock from the 50s/60s and surf music, symphonic, soundtracks from old westerns, non-rock non-western music instrumental pieces, ....

  35. Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As an artist, who paints fine art, I can't paint/create *without* good music. So I wonder that depends on what type of creativity you're doing. For example, as someone else mentioned, if you're playing a music piece that has a score you're playing (pre-defined notes) versus when you're in the mental "ether" of painting where things can flow differently. I imagine there's a connection.

    I do much of my best imagining while listening to music. So to each her/his own! :)

  36. Subjective by sinequonon · · Score: 1

    It probably depends a lot on whether you are familiar with the piece or not. Music helps me focus and hasn't significantly hindered my creativity.

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  37. Music only works for me if I don't need to think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it's braindead autopilot shit I can listen to music. It gets me in the zone. If I have to think I get distracted.

    White noise works for me though.

  38. It has to seem like background noise by MillerHighLife21 · · Score: 1

    When I worked in a cube I'd listen to music all the time just to filter out all of the conversations happening around me, but songs with lyrics wouldn't work. You've basically got to find something that you've heard so many time it's background noise. I know some people like techno for this type of thing. I'm a fan of most of the first Iron Man soundtrack.

    It's a pick your poison situation. The only time I didn't have to have headphones to work in an office was when I was sitting next to a loud AC unit that took care of it for me.

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  39. Analyzing the Study - Small Sample Size by nucrash · · Score: 1

    This was of a small sample size of eighteen.
    Even if this study ended up being 100% conclusive based on the samples, we are talking about eighteen people. If this were a clinical trial of a medication, you would be asked to replicate it another 100 times before going to market.

    This is a nice start, basically "Further Research Needed to Confirm" should be put in the headline of this article.

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  40. Seems odd to me... by mandark1967 · · Score: 1

    I tend to do my best coding while destroying my eardrums listening to K-Pop at crazy loud volume...

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  41. Nope by turp182 · · Score: 1

    Tell Alexa to play "12 variations by Mozart" at bed time. Tell her to repeat/start over until you sleep.

    I haven't played the piano so much ever after doing this.

    It is a fantastic rendition of a classic song.

    For the record, I hate Alexa and the Amazon devices, wasn't my decision. I roll with the changes.
     

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  42. To distracting? by DigitalJanitor · · Score: 2

    I have John Cage's 4'33" playing on constant repeat.

    1. Re:To distracting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4'33" is good for getting work done, but Organ/ASLSP is next level.

  43. Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    don't listen to "scientists". they aren't "scientists" at all in fact.

    whenever you hear an agenda study, do the exact opposite of the study's results, and you will life a long, healthy, successful life.

  44. Video game music can improve concentration by Lorens · · Score: 4, Informative

    I work in a noisy environment (lots of people talking about interesting things that I'm not supposed to listen to), so noise-cancelling headphones are a godsend. They need some sound to work well, though.

    After reading this article I decided to try to listen to video game music while working instead of the usual classic concentration tracks. I do not need to be relaxed to work, on the contrary. After having tested video game music for a few weeks, I feel it makes a big positive difference.

    1. Re:Video game music can improve concentration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Some good game OSTs I listen to a lot: Aquaria, Borderlands (the first one), Bionic Commando (from the 360), NeoTokyo (game cancelled I think but OST is great), and Frozen Synapse.

      Not a game, but the score to the 1981 Conan the Barbarian is amazing and one of my favorites. Make sure to find the 2 disc version with the complete score.

      I also recommend 'Maim That Tune' by Fila Brazilla and 'In Sides' by Orbital.

    2. Re:Video game music can improve concentration by columbus · · Score: 1

      Argh! I have no mod points today. Someone please uprate this Anonymous Coward.

      The the 1981 Conan the Barbarian soundtrack *is* amazing. I use this to help me concentrate at work all the time (It's the open bullpen office layout problem again). In fact, I'm playing it at work right now. I think it is perhaps Basil Pouldouris's finest work.

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  45. Flawed: They didn't test with familiar recordings by mileshigh · · Score: 1

    Sure enough, unfamiliar music is a distraction. Unfamiliar anything is a distraction.
    OTOH familiar music doesn't demand your attention, but it does cover external noise and provides a rhythm to work by.
    Most everyone I know who listens to music at work uses familiar playlists. Even letting YouTube, etc. chose the music will play familiar music.

  46. Clicks Link... An Audio of this article is availab by GoGoGadgetWhiskey · · Score: 1

    Clicks Link... An Audio of this article is available... ***Nice***

  47. WATCH OUT FOR THE FLOYD HOLES!! by jzarling · · Score: 1
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  48. Impairs not destroyed by gurps_npc · · Score: 1

    Study showed an impairment of creativity DURING the process of listening, not afterwards.

    At no point did they measure creativity after the music was done.

    Journalists should be fired, and the editor demoted for making this stupid mistake.

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  49. What about that earlier Slashdot post? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://science.slashdot.org/story/17/09/06/230210/happy-music-boosts-brains-creativity-study-says

  50. Re:Flawed: They didn't test with familiar recordin by ET3D · · Score: 1

    Agreed. I often listen to a small selection of songs at work, and I find that I don't even notice when one ends and another begins. It masks outside noise, which is more distracting.

    I do think it has a negative effect on concentration, but less so that chatter.

  51. Recreate this test... by Pyramid · · Score: 1

    Using the printer noise, keyboard click-clack, sneezing, coughing, chip bag rustling and incessant jibber-jabber in open plan offices. ...which ironically drives people to wear headphones.

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  52. You nailed it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Right. Their whining is only reinforcing the OP's assertion that this shit is only about cost.

    Oh waaah, I gotta spend money on safety equipment, whaah. If buying proper equipment and meeting codes breaks your business model, capitalism, which they'll shower holy praise upon, says YOU SHOULD FAIL.

  53. Re:Flawed: They didn't test with familiar recordin by thomst · · Score: 1

    mileshigh opined:

    Sure enough, unfamiliar music is a distraction. Unfamiliar anything is a distraction. OTOH familiar music doesn't demand your attention, but it does cover external noise and provides a rhythm to work by. Most everyone I know who listens to music at work uses familiar playlists. Even letting YouTube, etc. chose the music will play familiar music.

    No studies of the effect on concentration of familiar vs unfamilar music have been done, afaik.

    OTOH (and this is purely anecdotal, of course), as a writer who is also a musician, I can't listen to music of any kind when I'm writing. Familiar, unfamiliar, with lyrics or without, it distracts me to the point where I can't concentrate effectively, because the musical part of my brain keeps diverting my focus to elements of whatever I'm listening to (melody, counterpoint, individual instrumental lines, etc.). It can be as familiar and simplistic as a nursery rhyme, and it will still reliably interfere with my writing process.

    YMMV ...

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  54. commentsubject by Falos · · Score: 1

    >Damaging Your Creativity
    >your ability to perform creative tasks
    >creative performance dropped

    Did not RTFA. Have no fucking idea what they're measuring. Especially since these differ.

    If I'm a writer trying to pen a piece of fiction, you'd better believe a hit of emotional (positive, negative, etc) music will get me imagining better. This probably applies to many "creativity"-based efforts, everything from poets to an engineer down at Square One. Well, no, Zero really. When you're designing what to design and not actually designing.

    But not Square Two. Obviously a coder trying to mentally wield the paths of several functions and variables and ensure they collide into an accurate conclusion will be hampered by any music. Any distraction. Any synapse that isn't calculation of the tedious, numbery abstract.

    But is that creativity? That's deterministic thinking. "Am I 100% certain that this always resolves in X manner, and perfectly crops out detail Y from affecting the data. I need to investigate this flow, which involves me not actually changing or doing jack shit, just examining." as opposed to "Hey so here's a new idea..."

    In short, fuck that headline. Sure, music may inhibit your mental prowess, your clock speed, your RAM space, just pick any other fucking word.

    1. Re:commentsubject by Falos · · Score: 1

      Fridge thought: Get data versus the whitenoise baseline. Find what audio hurts the myriad metrics (creativity, focus, productivity, sheer thought) less than clutter and chatter, netting a net advantage (and more disdain for the headline).

  55. blow to the open office by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    as if the open office didn't need more reasons to die. Wear headphones to avoid listening to co-workers, productivity goes down. Don't wear your headphones and your creativity goes down. My company kicked the fad and now every engineer gets an office to focus, productivity has increased as well as employee happiness.

  56. Re:what kind of music does creimer listen to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Creimer gave $71 to Second Harvest Food Bank to stick it to VOX Media and The Verge. Over $7,000 raised for multiple charities via #SomethingPositive on Twitter.

  57. Oh no! by Kargan · · Score: 1

    My creativity is being stifled while I perform such tasks as driving home from work and gaming!

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  58. Well what did they expect? by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1

    I don't know why they chose a collection of Nickleback songs to play to the subjects - their brains probably leaked out of their ears before they even got started on the task.

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  59. I call B.S. by nedgofast · · Score: 1

    The study must have required that the study participants be actively listening. There is a difference between that and passively listening. I have done a lot of coding to music. I find that when not employing the Balmer maximum method, listening to appropriately harsh metal or alternative rock helps me stay in the zone.

  60. Small study by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    TFA says 30 adults participated. This is a small study. How significant is the result?

  61. Re:Alternate headline: Distractions are distractin by rtb61 · · Score: 1

    Music ain't just music. There is different kinds of music prime example, whistle whilst you work, that did not come from no where. So some music is distracting for different reasons, like it to much and your root taps with the beat, hinting at distraction, hate the music and youch it dominates your thoughts. It needs to be the right music and not just that, but also to suit the task at hand. Different kinds of music generate different psychological affects, so you need to attune the music with the task, another prime example marching music.

    So in the Study they failed the basic premise off music, different kinds of music have pronounced different affects on people.

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  62. Weâ(TM)re trained from birth for words by fibrewire · · Score: 1

    Itâ(TM)s no surprise that we have our attention drawn out of us against our will to speech, since we are trained our entire lives to listen to speech. Guess what - music with words forces us to listen, where as music without words not so much. Big surprise that intellectuals once listened to classical music, it turns out that they were just not listening to words.

    1. Re:Weâ(TM)re trained from birth for words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All music has a detrimental effect according to the summary, vocals or not.

  63. This makes complete sense to me. by bdwoolman · · Score: 1

    This makes sense to me personally as well as scientifically. Personally I could never study with music or television on. And I really couldn't understand how others could. But certainly when I was in high school I had many friends who seemed to be able to do it. Not I. My mind always drifted over to the music — especially if it was catchy or there were vocals. But even Mozart or Bach would occasionally capture my attention. And, given this study, it makes sense that even when I was focused on what I was doing part of me was still engaged with the music. These days I am studying Mongolian language (don't ask) and sometimes when I am doing flashcards I put on ambient spa music. It is so insipid it does not distract me and seems to make a tedious task a bit more pleasant.

    Okay scientifically. So there is only so much processing power in the organism. And if the brain is even partly engaged in listening to something then it is practically axiomatic that it is not focused completely on the task at hand. Even listening to the radio while driving seems to pull a small amount of my attention away from the road. For example I always find myself driving a little faster if there is hard rock pumping out of the speakers.

    "Sorry, officer... I was listening to Meatloaf and didn't see you in the rearview mirror."

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  64. Visualization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I visualize almost everything. When I hear music, the different beats cause different images in my head. When I'm trying to solve problems by visualizing, hearing music interferes with that. I'm the only person at work that doesn't wear headphones listening to music.

  65. with earphones by kdayn · · Score: 1

    nobody knows that you just sit in silence, when not listening to music.

  66. Poor study design by SNRatio · · Score: 1

    It should have compared the performance of people listening to the music they choose to listen to while working vs other stuff. Why expect that impersonally chosen music would be other than distracting? Another big problem: assuming performance on any single task or group of tasks makes a good proxy for "creativity".

  67. One scenario is missing. The bullshit isn't. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Yeah, of course you did.

    This was after you were in the Spetsnaz and before you were an astronaut, right?

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  68. Re:One scenario is missing. The bullshit isn't. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    I was neither. I play Arma and KSP, but I doubt either counts.

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