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Google Found it Paid Men Less Than Women For the Same Job (techcrunch.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: The story we're used to hearing is that women get paid less than men. In Google's case, according to its own internal pay audit, it turned out male-identified Level 4 Software Engineers received less money than women in that same role. That led to Google paying $9.7 million to adjust pay for 10,677 employees. It's not clear how many of the employees who received pay adjustments were men but Google does cite the underpaying of men as a reason for why the company paid more in adjustments for 2018 than in 2017. But The New York Times reports men received a disproportionately higher percentage of the money.
Paying everyone the same amount for the same job reeks of communism. One person could be a better "Level 4 Software Engineer" than another. I've seen this time and again.
...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
There is still sexism in this world, I told you!
The ladies feel like they are being paid less and how dare Google suggest their feelings aren't valid?!!! I expect they'll correct this correction within a couple weeks.
Google does cite the underpaying of men as a reason for why the company paid more in adjustments for 2018 than in 2017. But The New York Times reports men received a disproportionately higher percentage of the money.
The point of an adjustment is to adjust the lower paid party disproportionately to the higher paid party. So what is the problem here? Oh, just looking for something to bitch about? Carry on then.
Women are more likely to get a college degree (in the US anyway) and that has had a knock-on effect in job opportunities and futures for a huge number of US men.
It's not really a surprise that women are starting to get paid more in some jobs. They can't get men into those jobs to begin with because more and more of them aren't getting the education they need to get there. So there's fewer people overall to compete for those jobs.
Oh sure now that the ladies are making more.
Hilarious. Called the Women Are Wonderful effect.
Both men and women treat women better across cultures as a result. So when women say they are being paid less, well women don't lie, so it must be true. When women are being paid more, who cares!
Now we get to watch people who claim to be feminists in that they believe in treating women and men equally will not in any way whatsoever fight against women being paid more than men.
The problem was that Google took from the total pool per job classification, robbing Peter to pay Paula, when Paula was underpaid relative to the total group, but this meant less left to pay Peter.
They should have lifted Bill's pay package compensation as a senior exec to pay Paula, while not reducing the pool for Peter, under the Peter Piper Principle, which says to pay Peter Piper you take the compensation package away from the school principles.
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1. Tech companies are craving a diverse workforce and seek to hire more female software developers 2. For decades, women have been avoiding computer science and technical degrees as well as avoiding jobs in the tech industry. Therefore The demand to hire female coders has significantly exceeded the supply of talent to fill those jobs. Therefore, in order to hire a female tech worker, companies are having to offer above market salaries. I do not understand the problem here. Isn't everything working as expected?
The writer wanted the reader to wrongfully conclude that women were once again somehow slighted. Carefully chosen words to make it sound biased for click-bait purposes, I suppose.
Google is actively trying to increase the diversity of their workforce. That means they are discriminating for under represented groups. Differences in pay are the easiest way things are subsidized / discriminated for.
In the supply of Level 4 Software Engineers, I'd actually think that Google would have to pay females significantly more than males to attract them, since they are almost certainly represented in the pool of Level 4 Software Engineers much less than men. Rare attributes are more expensive than common attributes.
It's not possible to treat people equally, and try to increase the diversity of a workforce that draws from an uneven pool of people. If 9/10 CS graduates are men, then why would companies be expected to have anything other than a 9/10 distribution in their workforce? When the expectations are different, then there has to be some sort of discrimination / subsidy in effect.
Isn't this basic economics, combined with basic statistics?
They are called FEMInists for a reason.
They are the exact opposite of the women who started the equality movement.
Are Men at Google Paid Less Than Women? Not Really.
What exactly is that privilege I have? That my chance to die earlier are higher? That my chance to die at a workplace related accident are higher? What exactly is that privilege everyone talks about?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.