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Tufts Expelled a Student For Grade Hacking. She Claims Innocence (techcrunch.com)

An anonymous reader quotes TechCrunch: As she sat in the airport with a one-way ticket in her hand, Tiffany Filler wondered how she would pick up the pieces of her life, with tens of thousands of dollars in student debt and nothing to show for it. A day earlier, she was expelled from Tufts University veterinary school. As a Canadian, her visa was no longer valid and she was told by the school to leave the U.S. 'as soon as possible.' That night, her plane departed the U.S. for her native Toronto, leaving any prospect of her becoming a veterinarian behind. Filler, 24, was accused of an elaborate months-long scheme involving stealing and using university logins to break into the student records system, view answers, and alter her own and other students' grades.

The case Tufts presented seems compelling, if not entirely believable.

There's just one problem: In almost every instance that the school accused Filler of hacking, she was elsewhere with proof of her whereabouts or an eyewitness account and without the laptop she's accused of using. She has alibis: fellow students who testified to her whereabouts; photos with metadata putting her miles away at the time of the alleged hacks; and a sleep tracker that showed she was asleep during others. Tufts is either right or it expelled an innocent student on shoddy evidence four months before she was set to graduate.

344 comments

  1. They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, they got all that money in fees. No motivation to investigate too closely on the university's part.

    1. Re:They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You're trusting her version of events without getting the scoop from the university, due to privacy concerns. She can say whatever she wants. If she files a suit or not is the key to finding out what actually happened.

    2. Re:They got her money by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 3, Informative

      If she files a suit or not is the key to finding out what actually happened.

      That's easy to say, but not so easy to do, particularly when you're now stuck in another country.

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    3. Re: They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good question. A cock slurped can make good money

    4. Re:They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I agree it won't be easy and will cost money. However it's the only way for anyone herself included to prove what actually happened with evidence. The school will not divulge everything it knows, nor will a 1-sided article be accurate.

      We don't have the information required to make an appraisal of her innocence or guilt. Only court could provide that venue. The article does however make it a PR actionable moment for the school to respond to in public, but they're constrained by privacy laws and other rules, not to mention libel/slander laws should they say something that later turns out to be inaccurate. They are not currently under any obligation to explain themselves or their decision.

      A lawsuit changes that, nothing else can. If she's truly innocent she should (has to) find a lawyer willing to work on contingency, they do exist. Loose op-eds will not shame the school into reversing themselves.

    5. Re:They got her money by sjames · · Score: 2

      Not really. It's hard enough to sue a large entity that has an active legal department when you are a citizen of the same country. It's really really hard to do so when you are a citizen of a different country and you aren't even a resident here. Her student visa went *poof* as soon as she was formally expelled, so she had to go home already. So she is in another country, unemployed, and the proud owner of a five figure debt, Not suing doesn't really say anything about the potential merits of a suit.

    6. Re:They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " Not suing doesn't really say anything about the potential merits of a suit." You're reading the inverse-opposite of what I said. I said the only way she can prove her case or that WE could know which is true, is court.

      We can't take the article or her word as veritas. Court, that at least has rules and tools to help APPROXIMATE veritas, including discovery, perjury, etc. Court is the only way to resolve this, otherwise the school's say is final.

      That's what I said. "You're trusting her version of events without getting the scoop from the university, due to privacy concerns. She can say whatever she wants. If she files a suit or not is the key to finding out what actually happened."

      See now?

    7. Re: They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only reason her absence interferes with a lawsuit is if she was going to act as her own attorney. Which would be ridiculous in a scenario like this unless she was studying to be a lawyer specializing in international litigation.
      She is more than capable of hiring an attorney and pretty much everything can be filed in absentia by her lawyer.

    8. Re:They got her money by sjames · · Score: 1

      And I'm pointing out that we cannot really read anything into her NOT filing suit. So, the or not part of your statement tells us nothing.

    9. Re:They got her money by timholman · · Score: 4, Informative

      You're trusting her version of events without getting the scoop from the university, due to privacy concerns. She can say whatever she wants. If she files a suit or not is the key to finding out what actually happened.

      Exactly this. The university is constrained by FERPA in terms of the information it can release, even in cases of academic misconduct. If the evidence that Ms. Filler claims to have never seen includes other students' grades or academic records, then it will require a subpoena for the university to produce it.

      One thing in particular strike me as questionable. From the article:

      Filler was called into a meeting on the main campus on August 22 where the university told her of an investigation. She had "no idea" about the specifics of the hacking allegations, she told me on a phone call, until October 18 when she was pulled out of her shift, still in her bloodied medical scrubs, to face the accusations from the ethics and grievance committee.

      Her insinuation that she was called into an ethics and grievance meeting of eight senior academics without advance notification doesn't pass the smell test. Having been personally involved in cases of academic misconduct at a private university, I assume that Tufts has a specific internal procedure that must be followed in cases like this. A student accused of cheating is first presented with the charges, and a hearing date is set at which the student answers those charges with evidence and testimony of their own. I would bet that Tufts can easily provide documentation that she was indeed notified well in advance of the hearing.

      Contrary to what the Techcrunch article implies, faculty and staff are not going to accuse a student of such egregious academic misconduct without being very sure of their evidence, and being very careful to document that they followed their own internal procedures. Universities constantly deal with accusations of student cheating, and with students' parents who hire attorneys who threaten to sue the school. Holding a "surprise" hearing would be an invitation to a lawsuit, which Tuft's own internal attorneys would never allow.

      Ms. Filler has the right to file suit against Tufts. What puzzles me is that she did not retain an attorney in this matter long ago. The initial accusations were made months before her expulsion. Or ... what if she did hire a lawyer, got nowhere given the evidence against her, and didn't tell Techcrunch?

      She is now presenting her case to the court of public opinion, which may get her some offers of pro bono legal assistance. The question is whether such assistance will lead to any relief for her, once other people learn more from Tufts' side of the story.

    10. Re: They got her money by sjames · · Score: 1

      I guess you missed the part about being unemployed and the proud owner of a five figure debt? Also, since the suit would be in the U.S., she would have to hire an American lawyer, from Canada, with no money.

    11. Re:They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If she had an alibi for every event they claim she was part of, then that in itself is suspicious. Who would have an alibi for every random time that somebody tried to frame you for something?

    12. Re:They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Not really" was the first thing you said, but you didn't refute any point I made. Also I didn't "read anything into" her case by saying the only way WE could know or that either side could prove it would be in court.

      You basically put words into my mouth that I didn't say, then pretended to disagree with me, then repeated what I did say as if you said it. Lol.

      Also, they're under zero obligation to show you ANYTHING or have you involved in ANY way, as you seem to have misconceived in another thread below.

      Have a great day arguing with yourself, but not really.

    13. Re:They got her money by HiThere · · Score: 2

      Actually, I'm not giving her version of events a great deal of credence. But I trust it over the word of an arbitrary bureaucracy that acted to prevent official records from happening. Even then, I'd only trust the result somewhat, as those "official records" seem to generally and unaccountably always favor the bureaucracy. They need to be open an verifiable, or sealed at the request of the accused, before I'll trust them.

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    14. Re:They got her money by sjames · · Score: 1

      Your logic was fuzzy, I dusted it off for you. You mad?

      I provided several good reasons why the or not clause was meaningless.

    15. Re: They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She didn't have an alabai for them all.

    16. Re:They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? Cause most people are tracked 24/7/365. It's called a cellphone. Yes, I always have an alibi, because I always have my phone.

    17. Re:They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well that may just be the article's phrasing rather than reality. We don't know how many times the systems were accessed in total, for example. It could be like 3 times, 3 alibis. "every" = 3/3. If it were 25/25, that's maybe suspect.

      Then again, it could be legitimate. College students are busy, their whereabouts are relatively provable for large portions of their day. Roll call. Cell phones. Friends. Texts. Emails. ATM records. Parking. Think of it all.

      But it could be just a poorly phrased sentence since we're going on an op-ed, not the actual facts of the matter. This whole discussion is basically moot as far as people arguing which side is in the right. We have no way of knowing.

      The article itself can't prove anything other than that there's an established controversy.

    18. Re:They got her money by HiThere · · Score: 2

      Saying that someone already in debt should automatically hire a lawyer when being told of an on-going investigation that she doesn't know the details of strikes me as a bit absurd. When I was in school I *wasn't* in debt, and I would still have been extremely reluctant to hire a lawyer. I would expect that the "investigation" would find that I was innocent, so why should I burden myself with debt. I generally trusted the authorities to "do the right thing".

      If you think she should have automatically hired a lawyer, that tells me you've never lived on limited finances. I admit this is a bit of a projection on my part, but I can't imagine a student who hasn't grown up in a rather wealthy family thinking that the first thing to do is hire a lawyer.

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    19. Re:They got her money by timholman · · Score: 1

      If you think she should have automatically hired a lawyer, that tells me you've never lived on limited finances. I admit this is a bit of a projection on my part, but I can't imagine a student who hasn't grown up in a rather wealthy family thinking that the first thing to do is hire a lawyer.

      You are very definitely projecting. My family was about as far from wealthy as you can imagine. Fortunately, an engineering degree lets you pay off student loans pretty quickly.

      But put it this way - if I had been accused of academic misconduct while earning my Ph.D, with my entire future hanging in the balance, you can bet I would have reached out to friends, family, charity legal aid, or whoever else I knew to get advice on how to defend myself.

      You are assuming that "hiring an attorney" would involve tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars. Perhaps it would in the long run, if the case went to court, but paying for an initial consultation would be money well spent when compared to having my life destroyed.

    20. Re:They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, they got all that money in fees. No motivation to investigate too closely on the university's part.

      She should have spent her money on a good Host Files Engine to protect her laptop from RATS.

    21. Re:They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really. You admired my points so much you tried to steal them and were easily caught for as little as it matters. Your interpretation of my point was ass-backwards, as you implied I said something I didn't.

      You have yet to refute anything I said and your rephrasing without attribution is just dishonest fuckwaddery from the source. You don't move the discussion one way or another, re-paraphrasing what I'd already said.

      Have fun arguing with yourself, but not really.

    22. Re: They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "would have to hire an American lawyer, from Canada, with no money." = You've never heard the words "telephone", "contingency contract" or "pro-bono" we are to assume, since you make it sound impossible for some reason?

      I guess you missed the part about not only are there lawyers who do this sort of thing all day, but that she doesn't have to be in the US to contact them or pursue the case?

    23. Re: They got her money by sjames · · Score: 1

      Give it a try. Find a lawyer in another country that will represent you for free using only the telephone.

    24. Re: They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've already done it actually. I'm not the best example for your hypotheticals, probably because you A: don't know me or B: anything about this. She's in a fairly good spot to get a lawyer on contingency, if she has compelling evidence.

      No lawyer would take the case without a serious review of it. That begins with a phone call. It's actually the easy part, though it probably yes is going to take more than a dozen calls to find someone. It's surmountable.

      You seem to think it's impossible for whatever internal reasons you have, but they don't actually apply to reality any more than a guess. Stop guessing. Speak to what you know or can prove, and stop there instead.

    25. Re: They got her money by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 0

      She is more than capable of hiring an attorney and pretty much everything can be filed in absentia by her lawyer.

      How fucking stupid you must be to believe that. If she's in hock for tens of thousands of dollars (potentially to escalate into 6 figure debt), how is she supposed to hire a competent lawyer to represent her in the US?

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    26. Re:They got her money by gweihir · · Score: 2

      I agree that things sound pretty fishy in her account. If all that was done to her, she would probably have a solid case and would probably sue for damages as well. But it sounds far more likely that there is solid evidence and procedures were followed. That still does not mean she is guilty and she could just remember things wrongly. She could also have been framed. One possibility is that those changing the grades got wind of an investigation and were looking for a scapegoat and she qualified. If you want a scapegoat, you always want somebody that makes a good victim. It is not that hard to hack the laptop of a non-expert and use it to access an already placed backdoor if you have some help on-site to do it. It is also not hard to leave false evidence behind and/or remove the evidence of the intrusion into the laptop.

      That said, even a thorough, expensive, expert investigation may still not be able to determine the truth. It is all digital and that allows perfect falsification of evidence if you know what you are doing. That should mean a preference for "not guilty" and all that happens is her grades get reset to what they were before. That they kicked her out may just be because they also saw somebody not really able to fight back or because they thought they had solid evidence.

      In the end, who we absolutely know screwed up here is Tufts: They hat IT security bad enough that they could be hacked and grades could be changed. That should definitely not have been possible. Everything else in this is murky at best.

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    27. Re: They got her money by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      She didn't have an alabai

      A what? There's no prize for guessing how much student debt you racked up.

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    28. Re: They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somehow I don't believe you. I tried once to hire a lawyer to help with employment issue with one of big ass stupid software company. Even with possible return on investment of their time, they were super picky. In the end every single money grabbing bastard lawyer quit. Fuck these scumbags. One day I might just shoot some of them to satisfy my bloodthirsty anger.

    29. Re: They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Contingency, pro bono, they exist. How fucking stupid YOU must be lol.

    30. Re: They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trust me, I know just how poor you were. Your dad used to give the best fucking head, right before he voted for Trump, then died of a prescription drug addiction.

    31. Re:They got her money by Tuidjy · · Score: 1

      In the end, who we absolutely know screwed up here is Tufts: They hat IT security bad enough that they could be hacked and grades could be changed.

      Back in the early 90s, I was at MIT. Athena (the MIT network) was getting hacked so freaking often that the IT staff and the Student Information Board were playing catch up all the time.

      Fake login screens, packet sniffing, brute force attacks on the cache, man in the middle attacks, attacks on the backups and then forced restores, including through physical damage, and of course, stealing Kerberos credentials... That's just what I have personally witnessed.

      There was a way of submitting assignments 23h 59mn 59s late, and getting the time stamp within the allowed range, and that stayed around for months. There were people who would not think anything of using telnet from their dorm room, despite most of the equipment in said dorm being completely open for everyone with physical access. Hell, every single workstation in the public clusters had the same root password, and it was 'mrroot'. You could sit down after someone, and try your luck with whatever that was still on the hard drive. And of course, there were all these 'very busy' students who disabled their screensavers' passwords to save a few precious seconds... And there was a 'fancy' screensaver that was logging password, and that stayed around for months as well.

      Man, it was the Wild West. So many things that today we take for granted, we were then just learning.

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    32. Re: They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes almost impossibly hard. And completely necessary to recover financially and career wise.

    33. Re: They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Maybe you're just an ugly unlikeable asshole that no one is willing to waste their time on.

      I mean that's the impression I get, others may vary.

    34. Re: They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prescribed by a foreign doctor with poor medical training that sends most of his paycheck to ISIS so he can marry his seven year old daughter to his fifty five year old brother, after mutilating her genitals that is.

    35. Re:They got her money by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      You're trusting her version of events without getting the scoop from the university, due to privacy concerns.

      Since Tufts did not extend the right of legal discovery to Filler when she pleaded her case, tat's their own goddamned fault. There is no more "privacy" concern now that Filler has been expelled.

    36. Re:They got her money by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      Fake login screens! That brings me back a couple of decades. I made one of those when I was in college before we switched to windows. It was risky, since it had to run from my account at first, and if someone tried to break out of it they'd be logged in. But once I had a couple accounts compromised, I just used those.

      It emulated the login perfectly, and after the password was entered it emulated the "incorrect password" message perfectly, stored the password, and logged out of my account and returned to the real login screen. It was pretty genius, and worked flawlessly. I never did anything really malicious with it, but definitely could have. Especially if I could have gotten access to a system that staff used regularly.

      I do wonder how many students really caused havoc on that system. It was really easy to do back in the day.

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    37. Re: They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thatâ(TM)s anecdotal but I have successfully hired an employment lawyer, one of the bests in the country from what I could gather, and never gave him a dime. I canâ(TM)t go over the details but yes, some lawyers, and some of them very good ones will only take a cut if they win. They do filter the cases and get a pretty good idea if a case will be successful from an intake session. The first lawyer I talked to had a potential conflict of interest, but the second one turned out great.

      Pro tip, if your company is doing shady stuff start taking lots of notes. You should take paper notes routinely regardless as in the long run it can be used to protect yourself. If you see something illegal and you have the opportunity to document the shady activity do so. Send an email to your superior and print it out. You can just say âoeneed to meet about concernsâ the more explicit the more legal CYI you get, but then the company will be more motivated to get rid of you if they are shady, and you donâ(TM)t want to stay there in the long run, at the very least at the first sign of disagreement with company practices you career path with the company will be destroyed. Have printouts of your schedule to corroborate your paper notes. If you have months and months of notes, it will go a long way vs a company that purposefully avoid take meeting minutes to hide their shady practices (see Google high level meeting practices).

    38. Re:They got her money by hawguy · · Score: 2

      If she had an alibi for every event they claim she was part of, then that in itself is suspicious. Who would have an alibi for every random time that somebody tried to frame you for something?

      If someone hacked her laptop and was using it to hack the grades while she was sleeping or away, then it's pretty likely that she had an alibi for every occurrence - I can document every time I'm sleeping with my smart watch and my smart-thermostat motion sensors. Every time I leave the house, it's captured on the cloud cam in the garage, as well as the camera at the corner gas station that I have to pass to leave the neighborhood. My car is pretty new, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was tracking me through the navigation system or other car computer. When I go for a run or a bike ride, my smart watch tracks me. When I go to work, my employer has video and badge swipe evidence. When I travel, I have airline receipts, or if driving, toll and gas receipts. And of course, I have smart phone, so both the phone manufacturer and my cellular carrier knows my every move. Some of these can be faked, others are outside of my control.

      In modern times, it's pretty hard to *not* have an alibi unless you're trying not to.

    39. Re:They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the end, who we absolutely know screwed up here is Tufts: They hat IT security bad enough that they could be hacked and grades could be changed. That should definitely not have been possible. Everything else in this is murky at best.

      Stopping hacking attempts can be hard. Accurate forensics is far harder, particularly against a class of attacker, hackers, who obfuscate, pivot, and otherwise mislead.

      We may know, a priori, if the academic information security staff failed at their primary purpose: to secure academic data, we also know they lack the skill to discover who did the hacking. Therefore, anything they say which is not merely a proxy of an external consultant who is more skilled than existing staff is likely to be at least as faulty as their security was in the first place.

    40. Re: They got her money by omnichad · · Score: 2

      After this level of press coverage? People are probably tracking her down now. The publicity might pay huge dividends for whatever law firm does the job. This on top of a contingency would be a huge payoff.

    41. Re:They got her money by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Indeed.

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    42. Re:They got her money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The saddest thing is when you don't have friends, family who have the funds and the charity legal aid is pitiful at best you are basically fucked. The legal system is broken because truly poor people cannot afford equal justice.

  2. Go apply for another school then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Transfer your credits and finish up the rest of your classes elsewhere, stop whining!

    1. Re:Go apply for another school then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No college is going to accept credits transfered by somebody expelled for cheating. If she's lucky, the might accept some of the credits where there's no dispute of the accuracy, but colleges can't afford to accept transfers that would harm their accreditation.

      It does sound like something is fishy here. Either the college is wrong or somebody used her device to change the grades for her while she was away from the device. Or there was some sort of massive error.

      And people wonder why so many of us think that colleges shouldn't be responsible for handling sexual assault allegations.

    2. Re:Go apply for another school then by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 1

      What's fishy is why is a Canadian spending money to go to the US for veterinary school? Canada doesn't have veterinary schools?

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    3. Re:Go apply for another school then by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Vet schools are hard to get into. Canada has six, IIRC.

    4. Re:Go apply for another school then by dryeo · · Score: 1

      I was quite surprised how many of my sons classmates were planning on going to university in the States. Some had scholarships of some type. Anyways it is not that uncommon.

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    5. Re: Go apply for another school then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever tried getting transfer credits? It's a joke, and a bad one. You are lucky if they will give you half credit.

      What is BS about the system is that if you graduate, you get full credit. Literally 100%. If you are even a single course short they refuse to acknowledge half your courses.

      It's like an academic lock-in that benefits only the educational bureaucracy.

    6. Re:Go apply for another school then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why stop there! While you're bringing your credits over, just stop and buy a winning lottery ticket too! MONEY WOES SOLVED! Then afterwards you can form a megamillion dollar rock band and release 80 platinum albums! Man, I wish I lived in your reality!

    7. Re:Go apply for another school then by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      What's surprising is there are still Canadians.

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  3. I do not understand this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    News for nerds? Stuff that matters?

    Some student either cheated or not.

    News for nerds? Stuff that matters?

    1. Re: I do not understand this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be new here.

    2. Re:I do not understand this by Shikaku · · Score: 5, Informative

      News for nerds because:
      1. School
      2. Grades
      3. Computers
      4. Alleged hacking
      5. Law

      You really must be new here, most of those subjects are very nerdy.

    3. Re: I do not understand this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it isn't about a new iPhone. So obviously not important.

    4. Re: I do not understand this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Point well made (unlike an iPhone).

      Ta-da!

      CAP === 'unfold'

    5. Re: I do not understand this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, if it were it'd be a couple dozen nerds smacking their ballsacks, praising the GoogleReich and screaming "LINUX!!!!" over and over again.

      Get over it.

    6. Re: I do not understand this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      6. N1ggers cocksuckers

    7. Re: I do not understand this by magusxxx · · Score: 1

      "That's right. Because an iPhone has curves around all edges for your comfort. And comes in a wide variety of fashionable colors..."

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  4. Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hire a lawyer and sue the fuck out the school.

    1. Re: Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An old chestnut comes to mind that may help this, er this Tiffany fellow: Fuck em if they can't take a joke.

    2. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by thegarbz · · Score: 0

      This is America we're talking about. The fact that she hasn't already done so makes me believe she's guilty.

    3. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or she could just that the punishment for the crime she committed.

    4. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, she's in CANADA, which a cursory READING might tell you... also she's penniless in debt and has no earning potential now, things required to hire lawyers and prove her case, obtain justice. You know, the monied justice problem?

      Are you not familiar with the way America's legal system actually works? It's gambling. What you personally believe based on a single half-assed article about it just proves uninformed opines are the rule, not the exception.

    5. Re: Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except she hasnâ(TM)t been brought up on charges by the school. Which puts in doubt the evidence they have of her hacking their network.

    6. Re: Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really. Proving innocence or guilt in court is difficult, a much higher bar. Making an administrative expulsion decision based on evidence at hand is comparably very easy.

      Besides it would be the authorities bringing criminal charges. The school has no say over that.

    7. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      an attorney would see the future defendant, look over their prospective client's files and evidence, look at the publicity the case has already gotten, and take on this presumably open-and-shut case on a contingency basis. it won't cost the student a penny in legal fees or court costs.

      the school will want this thing settled quickly and buried beneath layers of NDAs. the student is looking at high-six, low-7 figures, in a settlement, plus repayment of all existing student loans, easy. the attorney will collect a percentage (tacked on to the settlement amount) and a nice feather in their cap to aid in the advancement of their own career.

    8. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "and take on this presumably open-and-shut case on a contingency basis" - Having been to court more than I'd like to, you cannot presume that. I agree a contingency representation is possible and her only avenue available.

      If the school has the goods, they will not "want it buried" they will instead bury HER in it, very publicly. We don't know who is telling the truth. The case will be determined by evidence and testimony we don't have now.

      Yes, if it's completely horseshit and the school acted in bad faith, she could make a lot of money. OTOH, if she's completely horseshit and her grades were provably changed, that's a tough thing to convince a jury to go along with.

      It's not a slam dunk by any means nor should anyone take a position now. I've seen slam dunks miss badly based on a single individual's biases.

    9. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      can you send over a link of which COURT found her guilty?

      at this point in time, it looks like the university applied "guilty until proven innocent"?

    10. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And maybe then the school should sue her for computer crimes and push criminal charges. She can still be extradited for hacking a government computer system. Long sentence on that one.

    11. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The value of filing a suit is that her attorney can force any employee of Tufts involved in this case to answer questions at a deposition.
      Those privacy laws Tufts is using to stonewall doesn't apply.
      It probably would not be hard to find several lawyers willing to work this case on a contingency fee basis because Tufts has deep pockets, and the penalties could be large.

    12. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by HiThere · · Score: 1

      I think it's a lot worse for her than you are presupposing. Tuft's is a school reasonably well connected politically. Cases that should be "open and shut" against politically well connected parties have a long history of often coming to extremely peculiar verdicts. I'm not sure that it's actually getting worse in recent years, or whether we're just hearing about more of them, but I seem to hear about several every month. (Of course, sometimes it's the same one repeatedly, but...)

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    13. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Tuft's is a school reasonably well connected politically." - I'm not aware/familiar with that fact. Source? Compared to CAL or Browns or NYU? Connected to whom, and what is the implication?

      "Cases that should be "open and shut" against politically well connected parties have a long history of often coming to extremely peculiar verdicts." - I said specifically (I thought clearly) this is NOT an open/shut case...

      But I don't see a judge/jury bringing the undefined "politics" of the University into this case. It's pretty limited in scope. If she can prove her case, she probably wins. It's a big if.

      "I'm not sure that it's actually getting worse in recent years, or whether we're just hearing about more of them, but I seem to hear about several every month" - Obviously you aren't reading any % of the case decisions.

      You're reading newspaper stories about interesting edge-cases or technology related large-scope cases. They have so little to do with the reality of everyday lawsuit outcomes, it's a bubble inside a bubble factory.

      Nobody has any idea one way or another which way this case could go, but I certainly think it will rest more in the evidence presented than some vague political boogeyman that you're referencing.

      At least, until that actually happens, which sometimes sure it does. But to "see it coming" prematurely? It's a stretch.

    14. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by dryeo · · Score: 1

      She's Canadian, Canadians aren't used to suing, especially in another country when broke.

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    15. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Well, she's in CANADA

      Yes, she is now. Let me guess, you think this all happened in an afternoon: allegation, decision, cancellation, and on a flight out of the country. No way that would be drawn out for weeks right?

      also she's penniless in debt and has no earning potential now, things required to hire lawyers and prove her case, obtain justice. You know, the monied justice problem?

      Indeed she is. So she a) has nothing to lose, and b) has a lot to gain if she were capable of winning. Are you not familiar with the way America's legal system actually works? It's gambling. When you have nothing to lose, and have a solid case your odds are far better than that of the house.

      What you personally believe based on a single half-assed article about it just proves uninformed opines are the rule, not the exception.

      I personally played the devils advocate and presented logical claim not analysed in TFA. You dismissed it based on belief of an article you inself call into question. That level of self awareness followed by complete alignment with one sided media is fascinating. Do you have a split personality disorder and change personalities mid sentence?

    16. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      She's Canadian, Canadians aren't used to suing, especially in another country when broke.

      Canadians are a lot of things, but pushovers that fold in the face of a life altering event when they have a solid case in their favour is not one of them. This isn't a case of being American or not. The legal system exists for exactly this reason, and not for reasons Americans often use it for. The fact we got a sob story instead doesn't speak in her favour, Canadian or not.

    17. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by dryeo · · Score: 1

      Perhaps, you still have the being broke and suing in another country handicaps. It did occur to me after posting that this publicity thing might be a strategic move to enable making it easier to find a lawyer who is willing to work pro bono or on contingency. Lawyers like publicity, at least if they think they can win publicly.

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    18. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tufts is a private institution. No "government computer system" involved.

    19. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you still have the being broke and suing in another country handicaps.

      That cuts both ways. Student debt collectors will have a hard time reaching her in Canada from the US, especially because she has no real ties to the US.

    20. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Presumably the contract she signed with the school allows them to kick her out without cause, which means she can't sue in any court if this is strictly a contractual matter. Well, she could sue, but the case wouldn't get far. There would need to be secondary liability or tort, such as defamation, for her to have a case.

    21. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She commited acrime she deserves zero rights.

    22. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      The person that passed the bar exam for Ted Kennedy was disbarred (when he admitted it, the fool).

      Kennedy just sailed on.

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    23. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Doesn't need to be. Anything a fucking federal judge doesn't like is retroactively illegal. Computer fraud and abuse act.

      Ipsofacto, shipsofacto.

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    24. Re:Sue the fuck out of the school. by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 1

      No lawyer in his right mind would take the case. Go look what one at what one agrees to when one is accepted and agrees to attend. She received due process under her agreement.

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  5. The summary is ridiculous and false-dichotomic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    "Tufts is either right or it expelled an innocent student on shoddy evidence four months before she was set to graduate." - Or... she hired a 3rd party to hack on her behalf, which still benefited her and thus was traceable to her?

    The fact that she apparently personally didn't do the actual keystrokes doesn't make her completely innocent of the charges automatically, that's ridiculous. Tufts either has more evidence they aren't sharing publicly (very likely),
    or she's got a very winnable lawsuit should she invest in proving her innocence and righting their wrongful accusation.

    1. Re: The summary is ridiculous and false-dichotomic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Trite and obvious reaction we all expected somebody to say at some point though not quite in the feckless language you used

    2. Re: The summary is ridiculous and false-dichotomic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, easy on the guy. His keyboard lacks the ',' key; not his fault.

      CAP === 'obstacle'

    3. Re: The summary is ridiculous and false-dichotomic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wasn't even a complete sentence as "he" (sic) complains about my word choice of all things to be "feckless" about, lol. They're no doubt just a pernicious vanquished troglodyte itching for a rematch they can never hope to win.

      A pity.

    4. Re:The summary is ridiculous and false-dichotomic by HiThere · · Score: 1

      I think you're wrong when you say "...or she's got a very winnable lawsuit...". Courts have been coming to a lot of very strange decisions recently. The word "corrupt" often seems just one step from being proven. Why the hell should "round cornered rectangles" be copyrightable, when the damn things were used back in the 1940's by large numbers of people, and probably date back before the typewriter, to pick just one very strange decision.

      Having what *should* be an airtight case doesn't mean anything when you're going up against someone who has an in with the decision maker. So they're telling her "Do you feel lucky?", probably while readying a spare six-shooter.

      I don't necessarily believe her story, but I sure don't believe all the idiots who proclaim that if she's innocent she'll sue them.

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    5. Re: The summary is ridiculous and false-dichotomic by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      There are some round here (rtb61 springs to mind) that appear to have several. Maybe they could donate some of their spares?

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    6. Re: The summary is ridiculous and false-dichotomic by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Apostrophes and commas are interchangable!

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  6. accomplice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    or she had someone else do it for her

    1. Re:accomplice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or someone wanted her to be kicked. She should had said "Russians did it".

  7. Inconclusive Alibis by mentil · · Score: 1

    None of that evidence proves that she didn't get a friend to hack into the system, look at the answers, and change her grades for her. Note that other students' grades were also changed; there was likely a "psst, pay me $500 and I'll give you better grades" type of scheme going on here.

    If it's her first cheating offense, her completion of the courses in question should be vacated and she should just be forced to redo them. Zero tolerance policies of expulsion on first offense go against the point of education.

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    1. Re:Inconclusive Alibis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Zero tolerance policies of expulsion on first offense go against the point of education." - It's an interesting idea. They aim to deter, though, based on the idea that they're catching less than 1% of such things. Otherwise... it's a free for all.

    2. Re:Inconclusive Alibis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Commenting as AC because I moderated in this topic.)
      In the university where I work, students don't get expelled on first offense. They typically get a letter grade reduction in the course. But only if the fault is acknowledged. A letter reduction is "the plea deal", while expulsion is the "guilty after trial sentencing" for serious offense, and F for minor ones.

    3. Re:Inconclusive Alibis by reboot246 · · Score: 2

      It doesn't work that way. Young people aren't stupid. They can see the injustice done to a classmate and sometimes it will affect them in a negative way. Zero tolerance is the system's way of shifting responsibility from individual teachers or administrators to a nameless, faceless, inanimate rule book. "You can't blame me; I was just following the rules (orders)." Yeah, sure, like we haven't heard that one before.

    4. Re:Inconclusive Alibis by sjames · · Score: 1

      Likewise, we've seen no evidence that she did anything at all wrong.

    5. Re:Inconclusive Alibis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's plenty of evidence that someone did something wrong, the question is who. Apparently her grades were changed; or maybe her test scores were very good after someone accessed the questions. So who was involved? Probably more than one person, but we only have her side of the story so it's hard to tell.

    6. Re:Inconclusive Alibis by sheetsda · · Score: 3, Insightful

      None of that evidence proves that she didn't get a friend to hack into the system, look at the answers, and change her grades for her.

      This is unfalsifiable. Nothing could prove that short of omniscience.

      Note that other students' grades were also changed; there was likely a "psst, pay me $500 and I'll give you better grades" type of scheme going on here.

      That's only the most obvious possibility. Here's another one: The hacker is amongst that group. He/she possesses MAC address+name combinations for all of those people and adjusted all of their grades in order to create uncertainty about which of them was the hacker. Cloning MAC addresses was one of many tactics the hacker used, but the methods used by the school to track the hacker happened to seize upon that particular countermeasure.

    7. Re:Inconclusive Alibis by sjames · · Score: 1

      Yes, I think it's fair to say SOMEBODY accessed the answers. But it is kinda important WHO did it.

    8. Re: Inconclusive Alibis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do not understand how school administrators or almost any authority work when they want to detach themselves from moral culpability. You didn't even understand reversing you responded to, you just started harping on them without reading their words.

      Start by reading the Nuremburg transcripts. People can and conveyance exactly as described.

    9. Re:Inconclusive Alibis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing could prove that short of omniscience.

      Wasn't that Jusse's thinking?

    10. Re: Inconclusive Alibis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your entire rant is meaningless garbage from someone who is known to have an anti-education bent. No doubt you were expelled for other reasons than she was, but it's abundantly clear your education ended a while back.

    11. Re:Inconclusive Alibis by gweihir · · Score: 1

      They just have the MAC address to identify her machine? No forensics on the laptop itself? That is crazy. MAC address changes are often as simple as running a single command as root. Finding the MAC address of a particular machine is a bit harder, not is that hard either if you are on-site.

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    12. Re: Inconclusive Alibis by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      Don't rule out that she may be in conflict with some person in management, possibly that she denied someone sexual favors. It has happened before and it's really making things harder to prove with word against word and tis is the way she was punished for not bending over.

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    13. Re:Inconclusive Alibis by Corbets · · Score: 1

      They just have the MAC address to identify her machine? No forensics on the laptop itself? That is crazy. MAC address changes are often as simple as running a single command as root. Finding the MAC address of a particular machine is a bit harder, not is that hard either if you are on-site.

      Everyone here knows how to spoof a layer 2 address. However, why would the school have forensic access to her PC? The most likely case is that it’s privately owned, and thus they have no control over it.

      They might, however, have been able to identify the specific port used by the MAC address and might know that it links to her dorm room (I didn’t read the article, only the summary). That sort of thing reduces the suspect pool significantly - toss in a few other clues and they might have a preponderance of evidence. We simply don’t know, as they haven’t (and won’t outside a court of law) released their version of events.

    14. Re:Inconclusive Alibis by sfcat · · Score: 1

      They just have the MAC address to identify her machine? No forensics on the laptop itself? That is crazy. MAC address changes are often as simple as running a single command as root. Finding the MAC address of a particular machine is a bit harder, not is that hard either if you are on-site.

      Everyone here knows how to spoof a layer 2 address. However, why would the school have forensic access to her PC? The most likely case is that it’s privately owned, and thus they have no control over it.

      They might, however, have been able to identify the specific port used by the MAC address and might know that it links to her dorm room (I didn’t read the article, only the summary). That sort of thing reduces the suspect pool significantly - toss in a few other clues and they might have a preponderance of evidence. We simply don’t know, as they haven’t (and won’t outside a court of law) released their version of events.

      She lived off campus and the landlord was never contacted by the school. Unless her ISP was contacted, there was no way for them to know enough to even accuse her. They didn't even know her IP address. And the school officials clearly don't understand computer forensics as they seem to think that editing a photo is the same as spoofing the cryptographic signatures on a picture.

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    15. Re:Inconclusive Alibis by religionofpeas · · Score: 1

      Likewise, we've seen no evidence that she did anything at all wrong.

      Why should we ? It's a private matter, and we are not part of this case in one way or the other.

    16. Re: Inconclusive Alibis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OH MY WORD. unreal. why note say she raped the teacher? you have the exact same amount of evidence of this, none, as you do what you said.

    17. Re:Inconclusive Alibis by gweihir · · Score: 1

      She lived off campus and the landlord was never contacted by the school. Unless her ISP was contacted, there was no way for them to know enough to even accuse her. They didn't even know her IP address. And the school officials clearly don't understand computer forensics as they seem to think that editing a photo is the same as spoofing the cryptographic signatures on a picture.

      Interesting. The ISP query would need at the very least law-enforcement privileges and may still be ineffective. Also, how can they have the MAC address and no IP address? That does not make any sense. You cannot actually use the MAC address for anything over the network except to get an IP address. Something is really screwed up here.

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    18. Re:Inconclusive Alibis by sjames · · Score: 1

      If it's a private matter, why are we reading about it? It is now a public matter. If the school doesn't want to get a reputation for dishonesty itself, it should consider telling it's side rather than circling the wagons.

    19. Re:Inconclusive Alibis by SNRatio · · Score: 1

      and adjusted all of their grades in order to create uncertainty about which of them was the hacker.

      The probability of the hacking getting discovered goes up with the number of records hacked, so maybe not the best CYA strategy.

  8. IT security generally sucks by guruevi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In many cases security at an academic institute is a springboard to private as well as a wasteland of people without talent. On the other hand, a smart hacker would also find ways of altering access logs or create an alibi.

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    1. Re: IT security generally sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Harsh way to put it, but bottom line yeah a university administrator isn't going to be top notch at computer security. And the article points out they didn't call in anyone. My own experience with being called in to university admin went something like this: Him: Do you know why you're here? Me: No. Him: Think and tell me why you're here. Me: don't know. Him: I think you do. Me: I don't, why don't you tell me.
      Finally says there was hacking from one of their machines and I was the only one logged in there. I left, and checked the machine, and pointed out that the machine clock was wrong, so they weren't even looking in the right part of the logs. That's the last I heard of that.
      (Incidentally, while still an undergrad, I learned enough to be hired on with the network security guy, and brought them this fancy new tool called a network security scanner and I did their first scans. Or at least first authorized scans.)

  9. MAC address is not an identifier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It can be spoofed. Just maybe someone on the same subnet is to blame using netcat or wireshark to read the ARP traffic, figure out who it was, then use them as the fall guy. If she was away, maybe they could detect the absence of the real computer, build a timetable of active hours, and hack outside of those hours while her real system wasn't in use.

    1. Re:MAC address is not an identifier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If MAC address was a legit was of identifying users, then big data outfits like Facebook and Google would just track everywhere you go by MAC and not bother with all these crazy browser fingerprinting schemes and whatnot.

    2. Re:MAC address is not an identifier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't seem to understand how MAC addresses work.

    3. Re:MAC address is not an identifier by nyet · · Score: 1

      Or he does know that FB and Google can't see your MAC, which is why he said it wasn't legit.

    4. Re: MAC address is not an identifier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I ate a Big Mac for lunch today

    5. Re:MAC address is not an identifier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who gives a shit what FB and Google can see. The fact that they were brought up at all is a strong indication that someone doesn't understand what they're talking about. If you want to talk about MAC addresses as an issue in this case then you need to look at whether Tufts University can see them.

    6. Re:MAC address is not an identifier by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      With IP6 they can ...

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    7. Re:MAC address is not an identifier by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      Not if you use even an ordinary router with NAT. This remains one of the compelling reasons to use NAT, the level of visibility and exposure with an externally exposed IP address of any sort is much higher. There's less chance of a scan randomly detecting an IP address with IPv6, but exposing your IPv6 addresses directly to the Internet means that you're reliant on much higher levels of firewall protection and integration than with even a simple NAT setup. There is no reason to use IPv6 in any home environment where traffic is expected to reach _out_ to the Interenet, rather than to provide exposed services on any device in your local network.

      Many developers of the "IoT", or Internet of Things, believe that all devices should be publicly accessibie. There are many compelling reasons to disagree with this.

    8. Re:MAC address is not an identifier by telek83 · · Score: 1

      If you follow the RFC's then not all IPv6 MAC's... ::ffff:0:0:0/96 are private if the network admin and the router follows RFC1918

    9. Re:MAC address is not an identifier by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Indeed. She may have been selected as the scapegoat pretty early in the scheme. Or she could be guilty. But if she was framed, this does not sound like it required more than intermediate hacking skills, if that.

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    10. Re:MAC address is not an identifier by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      That isn't a function of NAT, it's a function of non-routable IP addresses. If you set up your NAT to route to your internal IP addresses, you can still get hacked.

      NAT is no more secure than a firewall and a firewall is simpler and more straightforward.

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    11. Re:MAC address is not an identifier by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      > NAT is no more secure than a firewall and a firewall is simpler and more straightforward.

      In a technology sense, it can be. But the default behavior of NAT is so much safer than the default configurations of firewalls that it is, in effect, much more effective. The need to manually configure which port goes to which device, _before_ any traffic is carried, and the lack of an option to simply open up all traffic for all devices to the outside world automatically cuts the vulnerability exposure profoundly. I'm quite familiar with the argument, and have repeatedly found that the reasons for not using NAT are more subtly applied to using firewalls, and the networks that refuse to use NAT have consistently wound up far more exposed and vulnerable.

    12. Re:MAC address is not an identifier by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      the default behavior of NAT is so much safer than the default configurations of firewalls that it is

      Nah, that's silly. It's just a matter of how the consumer routers are setup by default. It's nothing innate about ipv6 or NAT.

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    13. Re:MAC address is not an identifier by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      > It's just a matter of how the consumer routers are setup by default

      Since the most vulnerable ports are the same on all home devices, ports like 22, 80, 443, 8080, and 8443, the port needs to activated specifically for every device behind a NAT. The other ports cannot be exposed in normal NAT unless, again, they are selected and connected to a specific target. That is a built-in "turned off" state that is fundamental to NAT, and is not fundamental to firewalls. The default for firewalls, and for IPv6 routers due to their deliberate support of entirely routable devices, is "carry all traffic".

      It is possible to configure firewalls to provide similar levels of protection. But if you survey any dozen corporate firewalls or private firewalls, I would bet that you would find that most of them have quite large default vulnerabilities. NAT does not replace firewalls or capable routers with their more powerful and complex features. But it provides a far better, far more secure default security stance than an unconfigured unmanaged, consumer firewall with its default exposuer of every single device on at least the common ports.

    14. Re:MAC address is not an identifier by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      But if you survey any dozen corporate firewalls or private firewalls, I would bet that you would find that most of them have quite large default vulnerabilities.

      Nah. I'd like to see a citation on this.

      Since the most vulnerable ports are the same on all home devices, ports like 22, 80, 443, 8080, and 8443, the port needs to activated specifically for every device behind a NAT

      That's just a design issue. Consumer routers could be built to behave the same way if you want to.

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  10. weird. by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hmmm. She really should insist on taking a comprehensive test at this point and proving herself. She has a 3.9 on the Masters and 3.5 on the Doctorate. While Tufts is not that top notch, it certainly is not a fluff school either. Simple testing should prove what she knows/does not know.
    As it is, if somebody really knows how to crack, then they would purposely change their mac (easy enough to do). I would be curious about her relationship to the other grades that changed.

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    1. Re: weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good ideas. Re-test her.

    2. Re:weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you cant attack the message, attack the messenger. What does your accusation have to do with WindBourne's post?

    3. Re:weird. by apoc.famine · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think the fact that she got expelled proves her innocence. If she could hack the system, she would have deleted that.

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    4. Re:weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If she was smart, she wouldn't have gone to a foreign and expensive school to diagnose dogs.

    5. Re:weird. by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      Tufts has the only veterinary program in New England.

      Changing a MAC may not be enough to gain access to a local network. wi-fi access can also require a local software token to register the host, and that approach is increasingly common place at universities where theft of wifi access by visitors or students who don't care to have illegal activity tracked is commonplace.

    6. Re: weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually vets spend most of their time doing spay or neuter operations.

    7. Re:weird. by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

      She stole a librarian's password. That doesn't exactly make her Guccifer 2.0

    8. Re:weird. by sheetsda · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Changing a MAC may not be enough to gain access to a local network. wi-fi access can also require a local software token to register the host,

      From the article: "Tufts said she stole a librarian’s password to assign a mysteriously created user account, “Scott Shaw,” with a higher level of system and network access."

      Apparently librarian has the power to create network administration accounts so I suspect we're not dealing with a paragon of information security here. It would be mighty interesting to see all the MAC address logs from all the on-campus wi-fi routers and see if this MAC address was ever observed being in two places at once.

      The times the fitness tracker recorded her being asleep are meaningless - anyone could've been wearing it. But the times she was being physically observed, and particularly the instance of physically observed + not on computer are intriguing. It would also be interesting to profile the interaction of the times she was being physically observed versus the interactions taking place in the "hacking". If you're being physically observed to create an alibi, then you're using a script to do your hacking in the background and that's generally going to look much less stochastic than live human interaction.

    9. Re:weird. by Solandri · · Score: 2

      Tokens are trivial to bypass. I do it all the time at hotels (so my family doesn't have to re-validate a half dozen devices every 24 hours when the token expires). You just set up a WiFi router in client mode (so it acts like a wireless adapter). Have it spoof your laptop's MAC address if necessary. You then connect your laptop to the router, and login to the hotel WiFi via the router's WiFi. The hotel WiFi reads the MAC address off the router, the token is validated via the laptop (which since it's going through the router makes it look like the token was validated by the router), and from that point on anything connected to the router can use the hotel's WiFi. To the hotel it looks like all that traffic is coming from the laptop.

      I then plug in a second WiFi router into the client router. That lets me broadcast my own private wireless network for my family's devices to connect to. And after 24 hours when they require me to revalidate devices, I just do it once with my laptop.

    10. Re:weird. by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      Tufts has the only veterinary program in New England.

      Your point? She's Canadian. Shouldn't have been a problem attending there.

    11. Re:weird. by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      Am I understanding that page correctly? Are there only 5 veterinary programs in Canada?

    12. Re:weird. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Apparently librarian has the power to create network administration accounts so I suspect we're not dealing with a paragon of information security here.

      We're talking about an academic institution here. There's no higher authority than that of the librarian. I'm not even being funny here, I once saw the Chancellor of the IT school at our university walk through the library talking to a local politician (opposition at the time), and they got shushed by the librarian, apologised and left.

    13. Re:weird. by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      The approach you describe seems quite functional. It still requires a device with the registered token inside the modest, typically NAT'ed provate network. I would expect the use of that device would make the person owning that registered device responsible for the traffic coming from that private subnet. Is there any hint in this case of the student's hardware being hacked or rooted, or perhaps of dormitory network hijinx, that would explain the evidence?

    14. Re:weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My family wishes you were right. My father-in-law, who is an idiot, threatened to resign over what he considered unprofessional behavior by a university president. Since the new president was there to cut costs, cost staff, and basically close the college to sell the building, the response was "we'll continue negotiating a few months so we don't lose our accreditation this term, then don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out along with everyone else who signed the petition". The family applauded his strength and ethics. my observation was "don't take a hostage that the police plan to shoot through the head themselves, you're just letting them blame you for everything".

    15. Re:weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who's to say that it wasn't wired access? Wouldn't you rather have 1000Mbit connectivity to local resource than 50Mbit?

    16. Re:weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's also just as likely that the librarian was the most knowledgeable person for their networking system, libraries were very often some of the first to computerize in colleges and everything else spread outwards from there, so the various librarians ended up with the 'keys to the kingdom' simply because the roots of the tree were in their yard.

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    17. Re:weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. There are only 30 in the US, which is even less per capita than Canada, since Canada has 1/9th the population of the US.

    18. Re:weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >While Tufts is not that top notch

      Tufts is an amazing school. You are insane.

      BTW I have no skin in the game WRT Tufts. I visited the campus and learned a lot about it.

    19. Re:weird. by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      in a small school, I would agree with you. But Tufts? ????

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    20. Re:weird. by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      Tufts, as a school, is amazing. Tufts as a vet school, is OK.

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    21. Re:weird. by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      yeah, but Cornell is just 300 miles away from Tufts, and I suspect that Cornell has similar deals with New England that Colo State has with our neighboring states (we let in something like 1-3 from most neighboring state, as well as 2-5 from Wyoming).

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    22. Re:weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How would she know that librarians can create these accounts? Why would someone try to frame her? Why would a hacker mess with someone's grades? It sorta sounds like an ex-boyfriend or something.

    23. Re:weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in Canada being accepted in a veterinarian school require a perfect academic curriculum. They require higher grade then all the medical program so only 5 is credible

    24. Re:weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. All have heavy regional entrance requirements and the one in Quebec is apparently essentially impossible to get into with French-as-second-language skills, so any given student has basically one option which they get into or don't. It's extremely competitive. There are certainly MDs in this country who really wanted to be vets.

    25. Re:weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rule of ten means that's, on a per-capita basis, as if the USA had about 50. The US actually has about 30 AAVMC accredited programs, so 5 in Canada does not seem disproportionate.

    26. Re: weird. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't change a mac address from 300 miles away. What is this magic?
      Oh windbourne is just being himself again

  11. I think she's innocent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unless she has some amazing technical prowess (I only skimmed the article) I find it hard to believe an amateur could have pulled this off. It seems like the real hacker(s) tried to clear their tracks but didn't fully remove the trojan(s).

    If she actually is some super l33t h4x0r then she likely would have used another device, multiple devices, etc.

    I wonder what will happen if/when "someone else" does some grade "hacking."

    1. Re:I think she's innocent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IMHO, it sounds a lot like somebody needed a patsy for stealing the answers to those quizzes.

      I guess she could have paid somebody to do this for her, but this seems purposefully reckless to connect in any way to her computer.

      The real problem here is that unless she files a lawsuit, the truth will never be known and colleges do not provide the same legal protections that you'd get in either civil or criminal court. One of the reasons why it's such a bad idea to allow colleges to handle sexual assault accusations.

    2. Re:I think she's innocent by BytePusher · · Score: 1

      Same opinion. Seems contradictory that they would simultaneously describe her actions as those of as a super hacker, but then not question whether she's ever exhibited a level of technical knowledge to do something like this, or if she did do it she forgot to cover her tracks??? My guess is that there was some sort of relationship with faculty involved(very common) and they wanted her destroyed after the relationship turned sour and threatened their career. Whatever the nature of that relationship is, it seems she might be ashamed to go public with that information(probably a married man). But, hey, I'm just going off scant evidence and assumptions.

    3. Re:I think she's innocent by jbssm · · Score: 1

      The only "technical prowess" described in the article, is stealing a password from someone.

  12. Short timeline, failsafe by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article is making it sound sad that she only had 4 months left on her degree. That probably caused Tufts to have to act sooner. Expelling her is probably significantly easier than revoking her degree if issued. If she was a first year, they probably could have taken more time.

    But now, if she is later exonerated, they can let her back in for her last set of classes a year late.

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    1. Re:Short timeline, failsafe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But now, if she is later exonerated, they can let her back in for her last set of classes a year late.

      On their dime, with significant monetary reparations for humiliating her internationally with false allegations and associated punishment.

      If I were in her shoes, I wouldn't trust them with further matriculation. If she's exonerated -- not inconceivable, given how weak the school's evidence appears to be -- if she were to return, odds are they would not treat her fairly for having publicly humiliated the school (never mind that that's bully mentality; they clearly are the bully).

      Require that they transfer her credits to a better school and pay out her tuition there, at a bare minimum.

    2. Re:Short timeline, failsafe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great, so she'll have a year's more compound interest on existing loans, and at the end of her career her retirement savings will be one year short in contributions and a career-length compounded ROI on that first year short too.

      Not to mention the time and hassle.

  13. Huh? by blindseer · · Score: 1

    "Date stamps are easy to edit," said Knoll. "In fact, the photos you shared with me clearly include an 'edit' button in the upper corner for this exact purpose," she wrote, referring to the iPhone software's native photo editing feature. "Why wait until after you'd been informed that you were going to be expelled to show me months' old photos?" she said.

    Why show the photos any earlier? It sounds like she didn't know she would be expelled until she was accused of this hacking. What did this genius expect? That Filler would just walk up randomly to people to share a photo of her on a weekend trip? I mean, would that not be MORE suspicious? "Excuse me, just in case you might in the future accuse me of hacking the university computers last weekend I thought I'd show photographic evidence I was out of town."

    I thought these people worked at a school.

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    1. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      Well, we can speculate but she will be the one who tells her story. Oops sorry to burst your collective know it all bubbles. Here's a hint: she left and went home without challenging it? Hmmmm probably guilty of something

    2. Re:Huh? by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      You are making a lot of assumptions here, not the least of which is that they determined the punishment before levying the charge. Just for a second entertain the possibility the university staff aren't all idiots.

    3. Re:Huh? by Kjella · · Score: 1

      You are making a lot of assumptions here, not the least of which is that they determined the punishment before levying the charge. Just for a second entertain the possibility the university staff aren't all idiots.

      Actually I think that's a very small assumption, cheating on an exam is a big offense. Hacking school systems to cheat? Maybe you can get away with it at 14 but at 24 I'd say that's a pretty much automatic expulsion. It's more like "do we have enough evidence to prosecute" level of offense.

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    4. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The punishment for academic dishonesty is pretty clear. Once you level these sorts of charges at somebody, the only possibilities are that the college doesn't find enough evidence for expulsion, fails you on one course or expulsion. And in cases where it's more than one course, it's going to be expulsion.

      That's how it works, academic dishonesty is a very big deal and can lead to colleges losing their accreditation if they don't handle things strongly enough.

      It's hard to say what happened here, but if she does manage to file suit, it's highly unlikely that the college will be able to win the case as there seems to be more than enough evidence to support her position.

    5. Re:Huh? by blindseer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If they don't want to be taken for idiots then perhaps they could open up a bit on what really happened. It sounds like the student was called to answer for her supposed crimes while not given any time to build a defense. She probably forgot about the weekend trip until she dug into her schedule for the months prior. Do you remember where you spent every weekend for the past year? When she did bring up evidence in her defense then they dismissed it as something she likely doctored.

      This looks like a kangaroo court. They were embarrassed about their grades being altered for so long without being detected and so they wanted to find a "mastermind" behind it all to pin it on.

      I'm guessing that if they did a real look at what was happening that they'd find a handful of people selling grades. They will likely disappear now, since doing anything after Filler was so publicly punished would only make them look harder.

      I'm willing to consider that Filler was in on the deal. Given what was in the article I doubt she acted alone.

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    6. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fact that they did not hire a 3rd-party cyber-forensics firm to impartially gather evidence is clear demonstrable evidence of the dimwittedness of every Tuft personnel involved in this case.

    7. Re: Huh? by sjames · · Score: 2

      The instant she was expelled, her student visa went POOF. She HAD to leave

      But lets look at the other side, what the university alleges is multiple felonies. If they're so sure she did it, why didn't they report these serious crimes to law enforcement?

    8. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      " why didn't they report these serious crimes to law enforcement? " How do you know they did not? You realize the bar for prosecuting someone in court is a lot higher than it is for expelling them from school with evidence in hand?

      The FBI has bigger fish to fry regardless. The nature in which she gained access is also determinant in how seriously they would treat it. You don't know the specifics.

      What the university alleges is that her grades were changed and she's somehow involved. That was enough for them to make their decision. If they were wrong and she can prove that, she should.

      But the school is not now under any further obligation to prove its case until she brings a suit alleging whatever she does. Law enforcement decides what law enforcement does for reasons you don't have access to.

      Your argument is essentially a straw man.

    9. Re: Huh? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      Because the publicity for a student being convicted of multiple felonies is _worse_ than the publicity for expelling her. Also, the standard of proof for felony convictions is much higher. A student at a disciplinary hearing does not have the USA's constitutional protections against self incrimination, and does not have the same "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard of proof. It's faster, and it is normally _much_ cheaper to settle internally.

    10. Re: Huh? by sjames · · Score: 1

      Says the AC who wants the accused to prove a negative.

      What this tells us, unless you believe that the media would totally miss that law enforcement was notified, is that the university isn't THAT sure they have the right person.

    11. Re: Huh? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      it's easier and faster to kick some out for cheating vs makeing criminal case out of it. and what if the case is lost due bad evidence or statements that make a very good case for the student to sue the school?

    12. Re: Huh? by sjames · · Score: 1

      If those what ifs are weighing on their minds, perhaps they shouldn't have expelled her. If they are really sure they're right, they should consider reporting the crimes to law enforcement a good way to make sure they don't get wrongly sued.

    13. Re:Huh? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      This looks like a kangaroo court.

      At a college? We can't have that!!!???

    14. Re:Huh? by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      If they don't want to be taken for idiots then perhaps they could open up a bit on what really happened.

      Why? Answering to the court of public opinion is only likely to get them in trouble should they ever have to answer to an actual court. The university doesn't own anyone a comment on someone's sob story to the media.

      It sounds like the student was called to answer for her supposed crimes while not given any time to build a defense.

      I've been on the university side of this discussion and I call bullshit. Expulsion is no swift matter, and a claim like this most definitely will have gone through multiple levels of escalation over months.

      She probably forgot about the weekend trip until she dug into her schedule for the months prior. Do you remember where you spent every weekend for the past year? When she did bring up evidence in her defense then they dismissed it as something she likely doctored.

      Oh? Weren't you just saying the university should open up on what "really" happened? It sounds like you already made up your mind based on one person's story. Her story really has you wrapped around her finger.

    15. Re:Huh? by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      "The punishment for academic dishonesty is pretty clear. Once you level these sorts of charges at somebody, the only possibilities are that the college doesn't find enough evidence for expulsion, fails you on one course or expulsion. And in cases where it's more than one course, it's going to be expulsion."

      Right, reaching that determination takes time even if the outcome is predetermined.

      " as there seems to be more than enough evidence to support her position."

      Not really, an alleged hacker accused of penetrating the secure systems in the school presented digital files which can be modified by anyone with technical capabilities and a bunch of kids who would almost certainly lie for her. That isn't exactly overwhelming.

    16. Re:Huh? by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      "When she did bring up evidence in her defense then they dismissed it as something she likely doctored."

      Which is quite plausible given that what she presented is easily doctored alongside the corroboration of young friends.

    17. Re:Huh? by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      What case? This is a school not a courtroom. She will have agreed to their code of conduct and disciplinary policy as part of admissions and their policy almost certainly gives them the ability to expel students at their discretion.

    18. Re:Huh? by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      "I've been on the university side of this discussion and I call bullshit. Expulsion is no swift matter, and a claim like this most definitely will have gone through multiple levels of escalation over months."

      Not only that but by and large that process is merely an internal effort to be as fair as possible. She almost certainly agreed to terms that let the university expel her at their discretion. Period. Unless she is claiming they discriminated against her on the basis of some legally protected class (race, gender, etc) I can't this being a very strong case in court.

      Just because nothing stops her from suing and she has damages doesn't mean she actually has a valid case.

    19. Re: Huh? by sjames · · Score: 1

      If it's a criminal matter, the state or feds will foot the bill for the trial, not the school. All the school has to do is turn everything over to the investigators.

    20. Re: Huh? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      The state or feds are exceedingly unlikely to pay for the cost of the school lawyers reviewing any evidence before it is turned over, or of briefing witnesses, whether there is a subpoena or nor would it cover the cost of teachers or school IT staff collecting data and organizing it for the case. There is also the cost of lost contributions to the school from such negative publicity. If you've ever worked with a college bureaucracy, you might have some idea just how burdensome their own paperwork can be to handle anything out of the norm, such as a criminal investigation.

    21. Re: Huh? by sjames · · Score: 1

      If the expulsion hearing was anything like honest, they have already gathered and reviewed all of the evidence.

    22. Re: Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Problem: Canadians don't need student visas to study in the US. There's paperwork, for sure, but no visa. So second sentence in the second paragraph and we've got our calibration of the journalism at work here.

    23. Re: Huh? by sjames · · Score: 1

      The I-20 sounds very visa like however the bureaucracy might process it. The best explanation is that TFA is referring to the I-20 as a visa.

    24. Re: Huh? by jonadab · · Score: 1

      Hmm. I was under the impression that Canadians didn't need a Visa to be in the United States. I think they need one to work or attend school in the US, and for certain other situations, but not just to _be_ here.

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    25. Re: Huh? by sjames · · Score: 1

      Well, without being able to work, it might be a bit hard to make living arrangements. Especially if her current living arrangements were connected with the school that expelled her.

      There is a limit on how long a Canadian can stay in the U.S. without some sort of papers. She was here much longer than that already because of her student status, but she lost that status. I'm not sure if that would legally mean she had to leave immediately, but according to TFA, that's what she was told.

  14. Inside Job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds more like a IT guy that was covering his tracks after someone realized that grades were getting changed.

  15. Alibi proves her guilt. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

    Nobody who is innocent has an alibi ready to go. Real people in the real world don't have documentation putting them elsewhere most of the time because they don't expect to need it. People who have that documentation ready to go, especially for a large number of incidents, made sure they'd have it to prove their innocence which means they aren't innocent at all.

    1. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Nobody who is innocent has an alibi ready to go." Who said she had it 'ready to go'? Besides if you have structured obligations (like people in college, moron) with people you know saw you there, and can be called to testify? That's evidence.

      That's how alibis work, you are able to prove it with other people or hard evidence. You don't get to discount the fact that she has an alibi and say that's somehow proof of guilt by itself, that's completely retarded backwards thinking.

      "Real people in the real world don't have documentation putting them elsewhere most of the time because they don't expect to need it." - This is the dumbest possible thing you could say on this topic, in the digital era.

    2. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Fnkmaster · · Score: 1

      I dunno, if you use an Android phone with Google maps, by default, you can probably retrieve detailed info about your location and movements unless you've turned that feature off. I happened to have it on for several years, which turned out to be lucky if unintentional, as I used it to successfully defend myself in a legal matter. I could show times and places on a series of maps Google had tracking my phone checking in that were incompatible with the crazy claims of somebody accusing me of some totally irrational and false things. Creepy location tracking, true, but I was damn glad I had the info when I needed it.

    3. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The issue is that the alibi doesn't prove she was completely uninvolved. Not that the alibi is somehow false. Thank god you're not in law enforcement lol.

    4. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, of course. The "she can prove she's innocent which proves she's guilty" argument. At least the "hired a third party" argument would make some sort of sense, but your statements are patently absurd. So, congratulations.

    5. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by godrik · · Score: 1

      Or maybe she is a maniac instagrammer so she has pictures of every hour of her life?

    6. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      All of these statements lead me to believe you have not interacted with a college-age human in quite some time.

      You see, we have these things that we call 'smartphones' now, that are really just sophisticated tracking devices that log our exact whereabouts down to the meter, chronicle every interaction we have with other people via online services, and tag every photo we take with them with timestamps and geographic coordinates. From the moment they get one, real people in the real world keep these devices on their person or close to hand for almost every waking moment of their lives, so much so that not having verifiable documentation of exactly where you were, what you were doing, and when you were doing it is the more unusual scenario.

      That said, none of this necessarily implies this person is innocent; my only point is that having an alibi ready to go has been the default state of the smartphone-carrying world for roughly a decade now.

    7. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody who is innocent has an alibi ready to go. Real people in the real world don't have documentation putting them elsewhere most of the time because they don't expect to need it. People who have that documentation ready to go, especially for a large number of incidents, made sure they'd have it to prove their innocence which means they aren't innocent at all.

      Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Having an alibi proves guilt and not having one also suggests guilt. What a crock of
      shit. You are an idiot.

    8. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Real people in the real world don't have documentation putting them elsewhere most of the time because they don't expect to need it.

      Meh, if you have the Facebook app they probably know more about where you've been than you do.

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    9. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At a former company, one of my co-workers was hauled in front of a high-up, and threatened with a firing if she didn't explain *why* she had deleted a key directory, leading to a very expensive crash. There were only a bare handful of people with access to this system, and she was the one working on the area in question. The deletion was time-stamped, on the previous day, but without an ID (not recorded on that system). And her Outlook calendar was open at that point. And Outlook calendars were open to everyone. After a few terrifying minutes, she realized she had had an impromptu meeting with her boss during the time the deletion occurred. Her boss verified the alibi, and they went hunting elsewhere. If not for the un-recorded meeting, she would have been tossed under the bus

    10. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by swillden · · Score: 2

      Nobody who is innocent has an alibi ready to go. Real people in the real world don't have documentation putting them elsewhere most of the time because they don't expect to need it. People who have that documentation ready to go, especially for a large number of incidents, made sure they'd have it to prove their innocence which means they aren't innocent at all.

      I could easily produce lots of data to support alibis that I didn't previously know I needed, because I log lots of my life. Google Maps tracks my phone's location all the time, and it's basically never further from me than the next room. I use a sleep tracker, and that data is logged to Fitbit. What I eat is also logged to Fitbit, with timestamps. Same for my workouts. My meditation sessions are logged by Headspace. My work is logged in EMACS org mode, down to a resolution of a few minutes... and much of that can be corroborated with git commit timestamps, Google Docs version history, Web history, email and chat logs (I archive everything; delete nothing). A large percentage of my time is scheduled in Google Calendar... including a lot of info about who I'm supposed to meet, so after the fact it would be easy to dig up witnesses to corroborate those meetings. If I find out quickly enough about the need for an alibi, my home surveillance video camera history may have data to help.

      That's just off the top of my head; I'm sure if I had reason to put some thought into it, I could find a lot more digital breadcrumbs from which I could gather data to alibi myself. And non-digital ones as well. Receipts, for example.

      Having a lot of digital history to draw on just means that you're okay with being tracked, and perhaps even aid it. It's possible that's foolish, but it in no way implies you're a criminal.

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    11. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by sjames · · Score: 2

      So you're saying if she floats she's a witch and we kill her, but if she drowns she's innocent?

    12. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody who is innocent has an alibi ready to go. Real people in the real world don't have documentation putting them elsewhere most of the time because they don't expect to need it. People who have that documentation ready to go, especially for a large number of incidents, made sure they'd have it to prove their innocence which means they aren't innocent at all.

      Read the article. Your imaginary scenario was not what happened. This took place over a few months.

    13. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      Mmmmm, I disagree.

      Carry a cellphone and chances are you can account for most of your movements during a typical day. If you use credit cards then you have another nearly unimpeachable set of data points to track your whereabouts at specific times.

      I also don't recall the article stating that she had an alibi "ready to go". Where did that idea or claim come from?

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    14. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sounds like a company full of retards. hope she quit after that.

    15. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody who is innocent has an alibi ready to go. Real people in the real world don't have documentation putting them elsewhere most of the time because they don't expect to need it.

      She has freaking sleep tracker. What isn't credible is expecting a gadget whore not to have device / social media logs readily accessible to them.

      People who have that documentation ready to go, especially for a large number of incidents, made sure they'd have it to prove their innocence which means they aren't innocent at all.

      What is the basis for "ready to go" commentary? ... from TFA:

      "It took more than a month before Filler would get the specific times of the alleged hacks, revealing down to the second when each breach happened"

    16. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I could easily produce lots of data to support alibis that I didn't previously know I needed, because I log lots of my life. Google Maps tracks my phone's location all the time, and it's basically never further from me than the next room. I use a sleep tracker, and that data is logged to Fitbit. What I eat is also logged to Fitbit, with timestamps. Same for my workouts. My meditation sessions are logged by Headspace.

      God you're pathetic.

    17. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Travelsonic · · Score: 1

      Wait, are you really arguing "If she can prove she is innocent, she's guilty?"

      If so ... what the fuck are you smoking?

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      If you believe in privacy, and believe you have "nothing to hide" at the same time, you're a goddammed idiot
    18. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      "hard evidence"

      This is the dumbest possible thing you could say on this topic, in the digital era.

    19. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      "I dunno, if you use an Android phone with Google maps, by default, you can probably retrieve detailed info about your location and movements unless you've turned that feature off. I happened to have it on for several years, which turned out to be lucky if unintentional, as I used it to successfully defend myself in a legal matter. I could show times and places on a series of maps Google had tracking my phone checking in that were incompatible with the crazy claims of somebody accusing me of some totally irrational and false things."

      Cool. Filing that away. Of course, Google provides the tools you need to spoof that data, you don't even need a third party. I'll file that away in case I need an alibi.

    20. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      Or maybe I work in security.

      "You see, we have these things that we call 'smartphones' now, that are really just sophisticated tracking devices that log our exact whereabouts down to the meter, chronicle every interaction we have with other people via online services, and tag every photo we take with them with timestamps and geographic coordinates."

      All of this data is spoofable. In fact it is easy to spoof them. Anyone who accepts this sort of evidence from someone suspected of having tech skills, especially of the broke into our systems variety is out of their minds.

      If you are ever assessing forensics on a system you need to gain access BEFORE the accused has an opportunity to modify it in hopes you might be able to find data. Something actually provided by the accused is completely worthless.

    21. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      Having AN alibi ready to go for a crime you didn't know about suggests guilt. Not having one doesn't suggest anything. Don't confuse questioning tactics used to throw people off balance with actual assumptions.

      I'm fairly sure plenty of other evidence is what damned her at least to the "we think you are probably guilty and quack in a manner reminiscent of duck" standard a school needs to boot a student. Why is this even on Slashdot?

    22. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      Maybe, maybe not anymore than Google location or Pokemon Go does. But this isn't facebook, it is just some student and a school with typical shenanigans that happens every day. Why it is on here like actual news is beyond me?

      In any case, as a rule no sane person would trust digital records handed to them by the person they suspected bypassed all their security as evidence of innocence. Facebook location information? Snape a picture with a friend, all of whom will lie to a school at college age. Toss your phone in a bush or your friends backpack. Return and collect later. Or turn off location and gps and turn them back on after you return. Or kick on airplane mode. Swap the sim. Or use googles own editor to modify your location data. Timestamps on the photos? Modify them with any editor. Metadata? Same. Go above and beyond, figure out where you supposedly went with your friend, take pictures in advance, modify the metadata and timestamps, while you are doing your black op have a gps spoofer running through your alleged evening and automate posts.

      Seriously, if you are actually doing something wrong and trying to establish a bogus trail it isn't especially hard. Hell people fake out all this crap all the time just to get away with cheating on partners.

    23. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      Strawman. At no point did I say anything a reasonable person could conclude indicated someone should be convicted solely on the basis on whether they do or don't have an alibi.

    24. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      "Carry a cellphone and chances are you can account for most of your movements during a typical day. If you use credit cards then you have another nearly unimpeachable set of data points to track your whereabouts at specific times."

      In what way are those "unimpeachable"? You can edit your location data, run a gps spoofer, turn off the damn phone, park your car somewhere and leave it in the glove box. Short of paying at a government office, bar, airport, or making a very large purchase nobody checks a CC vs ID. My little brother has a different last name and a radically different skin color and I sent him into stores with my card all the time. The same with my wife. Hell, you can use credit cards in machines without any human interaction at all.

      Sorry, your cell phone only checks in so often, your only make so many purchases on so many days. Neither of those is going to prove you didn't toss a phone in your girlfriends bag and cut across campus or even set up a system to let you remote control using your phone from the location you are proving you are at.

      "Where did that idea or claim come from?"

      I don't recall claiming it was a quote. These were timestamps on photos supposedly taken historically, meaning, already ready to go.

      My god, you are reading a site that showed research indicating you can relatively easily turn a hard disk drive into a microphone using sensors and some waveform manipulation but the idea someone who is savvy and inclined enough to bypass university security could spoof gps and photo metadata/timestamps is crazy?

    25. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      "Wait, are you really arguing "If she can prove she is innocent, she's guilty?" "

      No, I am not and did not. The fact that yet another person feels the need to beat down that strawman is very sad.

      "If so ... what the fuck are you smoking?"

      A story can be too consistent. Evidence too overwhelming. That isn't evidence of guilt, it could be a fluke of chance. But it is suspicious because innocent people do not normally have a mountain of evidence supporting them. Life is messy. Life is more like Bernie Sanders in the embarrassing position that his wife isn't actually keeping on the tax paperwork on hand that we are all "supposed" to have. Most people don't. That is the whole reason we have an innocent until proven guilty system. Also, police know innocent people do not normally have ready made alibis (especially for time home alone or with a lover which is effectively no alibi) which is the idea is fed to fiction so much. Every crook will have an alibi. It suggests they need to look more closely and not move on to the next suspect.

      There are a lot of things fed into fiction to trip people up for the police. The idea the police need you to stay on the line to trace you, the idea you'll be entitled to a phone call, the idea that the actual details of your interaction with an officer will "let you go" even though you have no way to prove it, the idea that deals are honored or the police can't lie or entrap you. CSI is all about reinforcing the idea that all sorts of things will get you busted that in practice the police have neither the time nor the funds to test for outside a few very high profile cases.

    26. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because there is no sign of this "other evidence" other than in your authority adoring, vacuous mind. I do hope you get totally screwed over the same way by dodgy, inconclusive evidence some day just because someone "thinks" your guilty of something.

      Do let us know how you feel about it then.

    27. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by fyzikapan · · Score: 1

      I have a an alibi ready for just about every day.

      Mass transit logs, yelp check ins, maps history, geotagged photos, Starbucks mobile orders, others being there and seeing me...

      Am I also a nefarious criminal? Or just a person who takes the train, sometimes asks my phone for directions, and occasionally interacts with other humans while drinking coffee?

    28. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by sjames · · Score: 1

      No, you claimed that evidence of innocence is evidence of guilt in a case where the defendant is being required to prove innocence. If we extend your principle in a logical manner, she's left in that perfect catch-22.

    29. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      FYI

      You'll need to root the phone. Google doesn't provide the tools to spoof the data (they collect).

      It has been done, at least as far as GPS data goes.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    30. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      Is there anyone who doesn't root a phone if they didn't buy a rooted one? I haven't tinkered with it for awhile, you used to be able to edit the maps timeline with the actual app if you downloaded it.

      You can definitely spoof the gps. Either the old fashioned way by going to a location and turning it off or giving someone else your phone or there are ways to actually generate fake data. I had bots catching pokemon in central park while I watched tv at my home in dallas.

      You can also definitely adjust photos as she did here: https://support.google.com/photos/answer/6153599?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en-GB

    31. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      Do you keep the receipts and keep them on you at all times? Do you have that ready for instant recall? Yes, there are things in the world that timestamp us at places, but you can have twelve of those on a day for which you are accused of a crime and still not have an alibi.

      Most people don't even have a ready answer for where they were at a random time THAT day let alone proof unless there was something special happening. They have to think a minute because most people are thinking about where they are and what they need to do not looking backwards.

      When the police ask you about your whereabouts at 3am when someone was murdered the answer is almost always in home in bed with no credible alibi (anyone in bed with you is always a poor alibi).

      Also things like mass transit receipts only mean you paid, you can step right off before they actually leave. They also tend to be slow. There is time buy a ticket for a destination somewhere 45min to an hour away, maybe take a picture with an accomplice, leave your phone with them, step off and go hack some grades, and then drive there to meet your friend and take some more pictures. None of that even requires simply editing the photos/metadata which of course you can easily do.

    32. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      No I claimed it is suspicious not evidence. You pretended that all evidence is conclusive and complete because otherwise there is no catch-22.

      You are also inventing a false binary scenario. There is no valid binary at play here. There can be circumstances where having an alibi is suspicious and circumstances where it is not and similarly there are reasons it is understandable to not have an alibi.

      They proposed multiple incidents. With each one the raw probability of an innocent person having an alibi goes down without some consistent factor (each one occurs during the same scheduled series of appointments or lunch break, etc).

    33. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      "just because someone "thinks" your guilty of something"

      I would imagine everyone has, outside a court room you don't normally have to have evidence. You top doing business with someone because you don't trust them. You dump someone if you think they are cheating. Whether or not you hold out for proof is up to the individual and so is what you accept as having met the burden. For the most part the same is true at work, you can employer can toss you because your boss subjectively thinks you smell funny or any other reason.

      "Because there is no sign of this "other evidence" other than in your authority adoring, vacuous mind."

      So your assertion is what? They loaded up the student directory and had the computer pick a name at random? Then they ran through the several processes most schools have in place and appeals and ultimately expelled her without any basis whatsoever?

      "I do hope you get totally screwed over the same way by dodgy, inconclusive evidence some day"

      Ah, make up your mind. Is it evidence you find dodgy and inconclusive or is there no evidence? Look, the burden for a courtroom is beyond a reasonable doubt. Hence, they acquitted OJ. Any thinking human knew he was guilty but the case was successful enough that the legal burden wasn't met. Civil court on the other hand awarded damages because of a lower standard of proof.

      The burden on a school is much much lower and the crimes are much more plentiful. They only have so many resources to spend on investigations and ultimately they don't have to have proof to end their relationship with you, they have the right to end it at will. That is fair, you have the same right. She didn't pay for a degree, she paid for an education to be presented (whether she took advantage of it or not), she got one and now they don't want to take more of her money and educate her further. That is their right.

    34. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by sjames · · Score: 1

      You took it as evidence of guilt. That's what suspicious means. That is, you assumed that evidence of innocence is evidence of guilt. Exactly what do you suppose happens if a defendant is required to prove innocence but evidence of innocence is taken to be evidence of guilt? And of course, evidence of guilt is taken as evidence of guilt. Given that, there can be only one result no matter the circumstance. I made an ANALOGY to her situation in that case.

    35. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      "You took it as evidence of guilt. That's what suspicious means."

      No, it isn't. "causing a feeling that something is wrong or that someone is behaving wrongly : causing suspicion"

      Evidence is something you (hopefully) seek to prove guilt when you have a suspicion.

      "That is, you assumed that evidence of innocence is evidence of guilt."

      False. Further, you are now claiming to be a higher authority than myself on my own intention. Impressive.

      "Exactly what do you suppose happens if a defendant is required to prove innocence but evidence of innocence is taken to be evidence of guilt?"

      That is precisely why the burden of proof is on the accuser and not the accused and legal systems such as found in China are innately unjust. Further, your binary logic contains yet another flaw. Not having an alibi isn't evidence of guilt either. It's simply a lack of evidence, a zero. If you start out with a suspicion someone is guilty and they have no alibi you still have only your suspicion, no matter how much investigating into their innocence you do failing to find evidence of it you still have no evidence.

      The purpose of an alibi is to attempt to rule out a suspect, it doesn't provide evidence of guilt whether you have one or lack one. If during investigation one person you interview is suspiciously over prepared to be investigated it might cause you to suspect them. Just as interviewing five people and having no variation in their stories might cause you to suspect they collaborated and memorized a story. Actual memories of events tend to be faulty and disagree on small points, rehearsed stories tend to be identical. To use an analogy, it is like look at a natural formation vs looking at one which is man-made.

    36. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by sjames · · Score: 1

      So you're saying it isn't evidence of guilt but it makes you believe she is guilty? Faith based justice?

    37. Re:Alibi proves her guilt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So your assertion is what? They loaded up the student directory and had the computer pick a name at random? Then they ran through the several processes most schools have in place and appeals and ultimately expelled her without any basis whatsoever?

      The burden on a school is much much lower and the crimes are much more plentiful. They only have so many resources to spend on investigations and ultimately they don't have to have proof to end their relationship with you, they have the right to end it at will.

      So, did the school perform their due diligence when conducting the investigation? They were fed a convenient scapegoat served up by their plucky IT department. Any evidence to the contrary, complete heresy!

  16. Presumption of Innocence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My fave part: "“I thought due process was going to be followed,” said Filler, in a call. “I thought it was innocent until proven guilty until I was told ‘you’re guilty unless you can prove it.'”"

    Really? I'm pretty sure the last few years has shown for universities it is "guilty until sentenced - maybe we'll revisit the evidence in a year or two,after your life is ruined".

    1. Re:Presumption of Innocence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Court can compel them to do it now. She has yet to file suit apparently. That's where it is. You're rhetorically pre-emptively blaming the university as if she didn't ruin her own life. You don't know that.

    2. Re:Presumption of Innocence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OP here, and I made no statement of blame, only of naivety. You're the one claiming her life is ruined though, so I'm to assume you believe her guilty? As opposed to eventual vindication with a large settlement?

  17. Tufts security? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those two words do not go gogether. I used to work for Tufts, less than 10 years ago. It's one of the places where people who get fired from MIT or Harvard go to lay low for a few years, to stay out of trouble and try to let people forget why they fired these people. (I needed work to support a sick daughter and suicidal depressed wife who'd already ruined my career.)

    Their security suffers from a problem common to academic institutions: segmented groups who, by policy, refuse to share information or collaborate with each other. The result is that a moderately intelligent person who's paid attention can steal accounts and passwords, which they still transmit to people by plain text email, I don't know if they've updated their "laptop tracking". I can easily believe that a cracker, probably somebody from the Student Information Processinb Board at MIT trying to impress someone of their preferred gender over at Tufts, showed them how to waltz through the security systems, and rootkit their abuses through a selected student's laptop.

  18. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Insightful

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  19. minor point... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/matriculate - It means to enroll. Your usage of it "trust them with further matriculation" is odd. She's the one matriculating, and they're the ones who don't trust her.

    1. Re: minor point... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Matriculation can mean the whole enrollment relationship, too, including keeping records, issuing credentials, etc.

  20. Referred to the FBI. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Tufts is either right or it expelled an innocent student ...

    This is why tertiary institutions shouldn't be allowed to act as the police. I realize, in this case, that much of the behaviour relates to academic integrity but the case should have been referred to the FBI.

    Also, she should sue for defamation and loss of income.

    1. Re:Referred to the FBI. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "This is why tertiary institutions shouldn't be allowed to act as the police" - Police? They have a right to expel students for cause, she didn't get locked up. Evidence was presented implicating her, a decision was made.

      " but the case should have been referred to the FBI. " - You don't know it wasn't. Prosecuting someone is a lot higher bar than expelling someone.

      She should sue for defamation and loss of income IF SHE CAN PROVE that not only did they act unjustly, but that they did so in bad faith. That's a tall order.

      You haven't thought this through, court is a very involved process that costs a lot of money. It's not a slam dunk even when you expect that.

    2. Re:Referred to the FBI. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Institutions had to start acting as the police because the police refused to actively combat the campus rape epidemic. The standards of proof are far too high and offenders are let off with light punishments.

      --
      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    3. Re:Referred to the FBI. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no "rape epidemic". There have been three cases that got national news coverage, and ALL THREE were proven COMPLETELY FALSE, TOTAL FABRICATIONS.

      Rape is very bad, and anybody committing it should be locked up for life. False rape accusations are also very bad, anybody making them should be locked up for 20 years. But the latter criminals rarely serve a day.

  21. Tufts reputation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Tufts can't do better at explaining how she did it with all the alleged holes in their story they'll do some damage to their reputation among prospective students, and not just for the vet school.

  22. Who said you SJAMES need to see evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're not involved, dummy. Of course YOU haven't seen the evidence lol! Why are you seeming to take a position either way? Why do you think it's important that you see the evidence, or should be involved whatsoever?

    1. Re:Who said you SJAMES need to see evidence? by sjames · · Score: 1

      Currently, I don't expect to see any evidence. Neither can anyone here who wants to declare her guilty.

    2. Re:Who said you SJAMES need to see evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      False. The school declared her guilty. They have whatever evidence they have, the decision is theirs to make. They expelled her. That's guilty. She has yet to fight it, the article changes nothing. I don't see where you want to go here.

      She either takes them to court somehow to prove her claim, or she's left "as guilty" in reality by the decision and in the court of public opinion, this one article aside.

      As of right now she's considered guilty by the school, the only decision maker involved to date.

    3. Re:Who said you SJAMES need to see evidence? by sjames · · Score: 1

      I had no idea Tufts was now the arbiter of public opinion. When did that happen?

  23. we need bankruptcy for student loans and then the by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 0

    we need bankruptcy for student loans and then the banks will go to bat for the students.

  24. grand larceny for taking the cash needs to go cour by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    grand larceny for taking the cash needs to go court

  25. different country may let her not pay back loans w by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    different country may let her not pay back loans or little recorce or bankruptcy!!!!

  26. Indemnity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since she is a convicted cheater and lacks any sense of honesty in the eyes of the public, it would be easy for any criminal to violate her and impugn any testimony that she might give in court. If you want to commit a crime against someone, she is an easy mark.

  27. How convenient... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Struggling for answers and convinced her MacBook Air — the source of the alleged hacks — was itself compromised, she paid for someone through freelance marketplace Fiverr to scan her computer. Within minutes, several malicious files were found...

    Filler took her computer to an Apple Store, claiming the “mouse was acting on its own and the green light for the camera started turning on,” she said. The support staff backed up her files but wiped her computer, along with any evidence of malicious software beyond a handful of screenshots she took as part of the dossier of evidence she submitted in her appeal."

    The computer is evidence, who knows what would have been discovered had she let others analyse it. So she let her own 'evidence' get wiped out just after getting the screenshots she needed? That's awfully suspicious - and convenient for covering own's tracks.

  28. Re:different country may let her not pay back loan by sjames · · Score: 1

    Perhaps. Not sure how that works.

  29. Trust no one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In my younger years, I could have pulled that off. Now that life matters, you never really know how crafty someone might be.

  30. Sorry sjames, not really. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "If she files a suit or not is the key to finding out what actually happened." = You can try all over again if you like, but you have yet to refute the point you tried to.

    Have at it.

    1. Re:Sorry sjames, not really. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he done it just fine. Your claim was dumb and he pointed out the problems with it. Your failure to accept it doesn't make you right, it just makes you even bigger moron.

  31. If she is telling the truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sue them. Get reinstated. Graduate. Win some money from them. She will come out ahead.

  32. No shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tufts is either right or it expelled an innocent student on shoddy evidence four months before she was set to graduate.

    A truly worthless sentence.

  33. Re: Huh? Are you retarded Sjames? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's 100% horseshit. Law enforcement being notified or not is not stated either way. You're inventing the omission as if that proves something about the University's credibility. It doesn't. You're fabricating.

    "The media" also is a single article. Boy are you silly.

  34. There is some evidence by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The fact her grades were changed (along with others) is evidence. Her laptop *was* used for some of this hacking, even she is not denying this.

    I honestly don't know to believe her or not; lots of the alibi material also could be rigged.

    At the very least there should be an investigation that would let her return if they find someone else did it. But to say there is no evidence, is really going too far the other way.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:There is some evidence by sjames · · Score: 2

      On the other hand, a RAT was found on her laptop. That and otherwise we would have to believe that she was sophisticated enough at computer security to manage all that hacking, but not enough to know she shouldn't do it on her own laptop connected to the school's LAN.

    2. Re:There is some evidence by sfcat · · Score: 1

      The fact her grades were changed (along with others) is evidence. Her laptop *was* used for some of this hacking, even she is not denying this.

      I honestly don't know to believe her or not; lots of the alibi material also could be rigged.

      At the very least there should be an investigation that would let her return if they find someone else did it. But to say there is no evidence, is really going too far the other way.

      The evidence in the article clearly point to some other actor using her as a scapegoat. The idea that she did this given the evidence being presented is extremely unlikely. That being said, perhaps we don't know all the facts. But given the presented facts, you would have to be a fool to think that it points at her. The quotes from the school officials demonstrates a clear lack of understanding about technical matters. And the idea that a university IT department has any sort of competency in computer security and forensics strains belief for anyone who has ever come in contact with one.

      --
      "Those that start by burning books, will end by burning men."
    3. Re:There is some evidence by fj3k · · Score: 2

      The evidence that the RAT was present but not enabled suggests an attempt at covering tracks. Something that can't be looked at closer because, whoops, her hard drive got wiped.

      The photo evidence is easy to fake. She could have even faked it after the investigation began. Or even after the investigation had already concluded against her; as the letter suggests.

      Her friends claimed they saw nothing suspicious on her laptop while they were supposed to be taking a class quiz.

      The medical rounds evidence was called into question (in the university's letter, but not in the article). Apparently the data she submitted as evidence differed from an earlier hard copy.

      I can't say I have enough evidence to call it one way or another, but I think her story sounds suspect.

      --
      Two men claimed to have walked into a bar. Only one had the bruises to prove it.
    4. Re:There is some evidence by Kjella · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, a RAT was found on her laptop. That and otherwise we would have to believe that she was sophisticated enough at computer security to manage all that hacking, but not enough to know she shouldn't do it on her own laptop connected to the school's LAN.

      Just because she didn't do it on her own doesn't mean she's not guilty. Maybe she had an accomplice who offered to help her out if she'd let him use her computer and even though she had no clue what he was doing or the extend of control he took or the extent of the hacking she still got kickbacks like test answers and better grades. Now that shit hit the fan she's got the choice between "I got no idea how that happened, I must have been hacked" or "Yeah I engaged in a criminal conspiracy to hack school systems but he's the actual hacker, your honor". That's not a very tough choice, the latter is like being accusing of murder and pointing to your hit man saying he's the sharpshooter.

      The alternatives are:
      a) Someone really hates your guts hacked and framed you.
      b) You're the smokescreen/scapegoat for one of the other hacks.
      c) A total stranger hacked your computer to help your grades.
      d) She did it all on her own, being both sophisticated and brain dead.

      I don't think anyone truly believes b), c) or d). She's either covering for someone or she got framed good, like somebody wants to ruin her life bad.

      --
      Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
    5. Re:There is some evidence by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      we would have to believe that she was sophisticated enough at computer security to manage all that hacking, but not enough to know she shouldn't do it on her own laptop connected to the school's LAN.

      That seems like a common skill-level among script kiddies. Otherwise why would anyone pay for a RAT?

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    6. Re:There is some evidence by sjames · · Score: 1

      If she was doing it herself on her own laptop, why would she install a RAT at all?

    7. Re:There is some evidence by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      If she wasn't hacking, why does she even know what a RAT is?

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    8. Re:There is some evidence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I was going to try and hack grades, I would be sure to change many grades so that the changes that I wanted would be harder to trace back to me.

      Using somebody else's laptop, either physically or via some 'remote management tool', would make it easier to cover my tracks.

      Seems like whoever pulled this off got away scot-free.

    9. Re:There is some evidence by sjames · · Score: 1

      The people she asked if there were any bad thingies on her laptop told her.

    10. Re:There is some evidence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the idea that a university IT department has any sort of competency in computer security and forensics strains belief for anyone who has ever come in contact with one.

      This is where I take issue with your post. Most people in most positions in most organizations lack competency in computer security and forensics. University IT tends to be far better than corporate IT regarding computer security and forensics because they have to deal with public networks and script kiddies with physical access. University and corporate information security offices both seem on par with each other.

    11. Re:There is some evidence by sjames · · Score: 1

      That seems likely to me as well. That would be my approach if I had no ethics.

    12. Re:There is some evidence by sjames · · Score: 1

      Actually, b looks quite plausible. If I had no moral compass and I wanted to change my grades or someone hired me to change theirs, that's what I would do.

  35. That's quite dumb actually. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope. That's not a solution to the question of whether or not she cheated. Sorry, that's very dumb. You can be sure she'll be tested at the next university she attends. The question of whether or not she cheated is only provable in court.

    A passing test months after the fact will not prove anything at all.

  36. Haha seems others are also waking up to the facts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You just post constant fluffy nonsense to push all your lies off the first page of your post history.
    Dig a little deeper and they are all still there.

  37. Canada may save her form haveing to payup or by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    Canada may save her form having to payup or at least have an easier time of getting out of it / under the law.

    Easier bankruptcy and lower max Garnishments %
    http://canadastudentdebt.ca/cs...

  38. With IP6 your IPS controls you local sub net range by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    With IP6 your IPS controls you local sub net range unless you use nat. and with an laptop that goes from hot-spot to hot-spot will pick up different ip's at each one.

  39. Re:Don't go to college, it's a waste of time & by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    boycott going to college.

    Easier said than done. Not going to college will by extension mean not being able to go to medical school, engineering school, and eliminate oneself from many occupations which require post-baccalaureate degrees.

    With the Internet nowadays, you can learn about ANYTHING you want, for free.

    No you can't. Its littered with paywalls, required texts, and even online college lectures aren't available for all the courses required to graduate.

    There's a difference between saying "debt slavery for multiple decades does not make college a worthwhile endeavor" and saying "college is a waste of time (although for some people, it can be)".

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  40. unless you want to pursue a profession by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    She was studying at vet school. Nobody is going to let you be a vet without a degree, at least in most developed countries.

    1. Re: unless you want to pursue a profession by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would imagine Canada probably would. She would have to start over obviously. But she could do it ... in Canada. She might even be able to move back to the US as a licensed veternarian, depending on what she specializes in. There are lots of rural areas that utilize foriegn docs, nurses, etc. from practically everywhere in the world. My last doc in fact was from Germany and didn't really speak English that well, though he could read it well enough.

      He was going to do several years in my rural hospital then move to a more urban area after having saved up enough money to do so. Lots if Indian docs and Hispanic docs doing the same thing. In fact, now that I think about it, I've never had a white doc from the US when I've gone to the hospital. I guess smaller hospitals don't pay enough for them to do it.

    2. Re: unless you want to pursue a profession by kellymcdonald78 · · Score: 2

      Uh, no. Youâ(TM)re not going to be practicing as a vet in Canada without the degree. My friends wife was a medical doctor in India and moved to Canada. She went through an exhaustive review of her program and how it compared to Canadian standards, had to take several courses here to upgrade and do 2 years of medical rotations before she was able to practice in Canada as a GP. Itâ(TM)s not a show up and open an office

  41. What everyone is missing by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

    The university's side is not told here. The university will not reveal information to TechCrunch. So all we have here is the expelled student's version of events. It would be very strange indeed if it didn't suggest her innocence when she's the only person telling the story.

    1. Re:What everyone is missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I would like to hear an outside 3rd parties take on how strong the Universities proof is that it was her. Yes, this is the court of public opinion, but if one side doesn't show up, it isn't likely that they will win and be believed.

      Let's see how good the computer researchers were, and determine how it was done.

    2. Re:What everyone is missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a nice piece of underlying logic you've got there.. "The university isn't talking, so the accused must be lying".

      The real issue is that the lack of referral of the "case" to law enforcement, the stonewalling, etc, is pretty indicative of someone in power trying make an uncomfortable situation go away. They have massively overplayed their hand and now they are just dummying up, because they don't have the evidence to take it any further; rather if people start examining things closer things could potentially go bad for them.

    3. Re:What everyone is missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Based on what's in the article I suspect there are other people involved and that Tufts has reason to think she knows who they are. Very likely she's protecting at least a couple of other people and was given an ultimatum - name names or be expelled.

    4. Re:What everyone is missing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The university's side is not told here. The university will not reveal information to TechCrunch. So all we have here is the expelled student's version of events. It would be very strange indeed if it didn't suggest her innocence when she's the only person telling the story.

      Exactly. This is like a fluff piece Buzzfeed did at my college a few years ago. It's a small college and a girl accused a guy of rape. The college tried to do everything according to decent policies, but rape is a legit crime and the police are supposed to be involved. The girl refused to talk to police. Also, the guy and girl were a well-known couple on campus that had just recently broken up - the rape allegedly happened at a party a week or two later. In the end not much happened besides a small Student Services investigation that didn't turn up much evidence either way, but resulted in parents on both sides getting calls.

      BuzzFeed published a one-sided story without going through normal channels at the school or interviewing anyone but the girl. Made the whole place look terrible and tried to make this isolated incident appear to be an epidemic.

      These stories shouldn't be published unless a real investigation has been done.

  42. That's not correct by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He has lots to say on just about every topic. It's a useful tactic to hide his constant lies about the climate.

    "See look, I'm not just lying about China all the time. I also post bland things that everyone agrees with, in order to get modded up occasionally. And space out the lies a bit.
    Now if you look at my history, there are only lies on every second page, instead of every second post."

    It's just his attempt to hide in plain sight and blend in with everyone else.

  43. Account sounds fishy by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    Her insinuation that she was called into an ethics and grievance meeting of eight senior academics without advance notification doesn't pass the smell test.

    Agreed. Where I work the discipline process is well scripted and students are given multiple opportunities to explain the evidence against them all with advance notice. Also, her claim that she is "guilty until proven innocent" is also false.

    There is a preponderance of evidence apparently proving that she is guilty so yes, she does need to explain how this evidence does not imply that she is guilty. The most serious evidence is that her grades were improved using her laptop. It is possible that her laptop was hacked but then why would a random hacker improve her grades?

    Finally, the letter indicating that the hospital records of her rounds do not match the one she provided also raises some serious doubts about her alibis. It seems likely that there is more to her account than meets the eye, either that or there is some tech-savvy individual who seriously has it in for her which would suggest that she probably knows them.

    1. Re:Account sounds fishy by Beautiful_Apple · · Score: 1

      Finally, the letter indicating that the hospital records of her rounds do not match the one she provided also raises some serious doubts about her alibis. It seems likely that there is more to her account than meets the eye, either that or there is some tech-savvy individual who seriously has it in for her which would suggest that she probably knows them.

      This is what I don't understand. What did she have to gain from changing these hospital records? Simply to create fake alibis? She is smart enough to do this, but not smart enough to get a burner laptop, use tails, a VPN, TOR and connect from a coffee shop? I am far from a computer genius, but even I can do this.

    2. Re:Account sounds fishy by anegg · · Score: 1

      When I was an undergraduate, I watched the university I attended railroad out an undergraduate Chemistry major in her last semester before graduation. Someone had been lighting fires in the dorm she lived in, and based on an FBI profile and some very ambiguous evidence they decided it was her. My RA was a friend of hers, so I had a perspective not available to people just reading the newspaper (yes, I realize the perspective was influenced by the source). From what I could see, there was virtually no "due process" in the manner in which the accusation was handled by the university, which was not at all in line with what one would expect for such a serious action. She was immediately kicked off campus, and not allowed to attend classes to finish her semester even with an "escort". The court action against her had more "due process" and she was found not guilty of all with which she was charged, but by that time her academic career had been seriously set back.

    3. Re:Account sounds fishy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is possible that her laptop was hacked but then why would a random hacker improve her grades?

      This laptop increased many grades. Now the hacker has a scapegoat.

  44. Burn her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She turned me into a newt!

    1. Re:Burn her by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      Let us know if you get better.

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  45. Maybe she was framed by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    Maybe she was framed. You gotta admit it would be a great way to get rid of her.

    Yes, it would take a pretty motivated person to do something like this, but I've known people who wouldn't be above this kind of behavior if they had the skills to pull it off.

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    1. Re:Maybe she was framed by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      but I've known people who wouldn't be above this kind of behavior if they had the skills to pull it off.

      If they had the dedication to develop those kinds of skills, they would probably be above that kind of behavior.

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  46. You're a moron Kendall. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adults are talking.

  47. SJAMES HAS READING DIFFICULTIES LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The school declared her guilty. They have whatever evidence they have, the decision is theirs to make. They expelled her. That's guilty. She has yet to fight it, the article changes nothing. You're flapping like a fish in air.

    She either takes them to court somehow to prove her claim, or she's left "as guilty" in reality by the decision and in the court of public opinion, this one article aside.

    As of right now she's considered guilty by the school, the only decision maker involved to date.

    Try and read all that and see if you can't cry yourself to sleep anyway. You're willfully dumb, we know.

  48. Sjames has brain problems. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're a liar Sjames, it says nothing of the sort. You're simply retarded by choice.

  49. Twins? by magusxxx · · Score: 1

    "It's never twins." - Sherlock

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  50. Someone from university IT could do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lets see the evidence. Someone from IT may have a tool to intercept passwords (trivial to make one). So they have access to the librarian's password, the others' who can change grades. And also the studens password. What if the student uses the same password for the macbook, as for the university systems? The person from IT could install one of the trojans on the macbook (with the password), and that doesn't need automatic startup. Just ssh into the machine and start it manually, then use it as a proxy for framing purposes. The IT provided the IP addresses as well.

    Which is more plausible? A student who want to heal pets hacks into a system to modify others' grades (so the notice is inevitable)? Or an IT guy having a crush on her wants some harm in exchange the girl didn't notice him?

  51. Re:Don't go to college, it's a waste of time & by Tuidjy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You can learn some things for free. Others, like being a veterinarian? No only is there a significant amount of hands-on experience, but you also have to know whether you are physiologically capable of working with hurt animals.

    Speaking for myself... in the Army, I was once attached to Engineering Battalion for a while. After an industrial accident (80s, Communist country) I had to help in containing and suppressing a serious fire, and getting some hurt people to a field hospital (to this day I suspect it was a field hospital only because they wanted to keep the extent of the casualties secret)

    Guess what. I was fine fighting the fires, I was fine looking at cremated bodies and smelling cooked human, and I was fine carrying and driving badly hurt people. But when they asked me to help during cleaning the wounds, by the second patient, the nurse told me to get lost before I puked on his patients. I went away, I sat down, and I must have passed out, because I lost a quarter hour.

    You do not want to waste months studying, and then realize that you lose your composure working deep in someone or something's body. I also I doubt you can practice medicine, even veterinary medicine without a degree.

    -----------

    Also, speaking as someone who in College has busted cheaters and got them expelled: cheaters often work in groups. We once caught someone who had made his girlfriend attend an early exam, take her copy of the final out, and give it to him, so he would have an advantage for the later exam that used the same questions.

    The girl was good looking enough so that we, the TAs, noticed that we had not seen her before, wondered whose section she was in, and counted the exams. Three people got expelled - the cheater, his girlfriend, and the friend who worked on the quiz. Yes, they were stupid enough to try to turn the copy she had taken from the first exam... not realizing that every quiz had its unique binary id on each page, spelled with dots and spaces.

    So my guess?

    If the university is secure enough to kick her out her without fearing a lawsuit, they figured out that someone was doing it for her, which is why she has such solid alibis, and she refused to rat him out. These things are not handled lightly.

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  52. insufficient info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    doesn't pass smell test - why did someone who is making good grades anyway need to hack to change grades? we're not getting 75+% of the story

  53. $200k in tuition down the drain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tufts vet school tuition is $51k and it takes 4 years for a DVM, so thatâ(TM)s $204k in tuition with no degree to show for it. Yikes!

  54. Guilty until proven innocent by jbssm · · Score: 0

    'You're guilty unless you can prove it'. No, see, Kavanaugh, was guilty - without proof - until he could prove otherwise. In this case, she actually has a long list of proof against her, and is deemed guilty unless she can find a way to invalidate the proofs the university has against her.

  55. Donation? by greylion3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd like her to sue Tufts, and I'd donate $50 towards that.

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  56. Re:Don't go to college, it's a waste of time & by i.r.id10t · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Worked in the physical therapy department of an acute care hospital for a while. Every summer we'd get a few folks volunteering to get their hours in to apply to go to PT school (easier to get into med school - similar pre-reqs, far fewer seats per year).

    Every year I'd take 'em into the whirlpool room to work on a burn victim, or some poor old stroked out person iwth massive bed sores, or someone about to loose a leg from diabetic ulcers and complications thereof...

    And every year one or two of 'em would quit and change majors....

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  57. Innocent until proven guilty. by X!0mbarg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Isn't that a "Right" down there in the Excited States?
    Or does that not apply to Colleges and Universities?
    It's a shame she doesn't have the money to fight this, or a decent lawyer could likely get her a HUGE settlement, with compensation for everything she has to endure over all this B.S.
    Looks like she'll be suffering under the (potentially) false accusations (and summary conviction) op these offenses against the institution.
    I'd just like to know: Just how much evidence contrary to the accusation does she need to be exonerated, or is she just doomed?

    1. Re:Innocent until proven guilty. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Innocent until proven guilty has to do with criminal law.

      This is a civil case, which because of the notoriety will probably be looked at by lawyers. My guess is nothing will ever happen because she did what she is accused of and no lawyer will take the case pro bono.

    2. Re:Innocent until proven guilty. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      American universities attitude about people accused of crimes:

      "If there are ten people who have been accused, and under a reasonable likelihood standard maybe one or two did it, it seems better to get rid of all ten people."

      Read more here.

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    3. Re:Innocent until proven guilty. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's only a "Right" if your a citizen.

    4. Re:Innocent until proven guilty. by SNRatio · · Score: 1

      Colleges are basically corporations: they have an HR department, not a true court system. And HR's job is to defend the company, not the employee.

    5. Re:Innocent until proven guilty. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes indeed-idly-do! You are IN-NO-CENT with a capital "I" until proven guilty by a jury of your peers....

      IN A COURT OF LAW.

      Sheesh. Next you'll be saying this a a FIRST AMENDMENT issue.

  58. Re:DO YOU NEED A LOAN TODAY CONTACT GEORGE NEGGA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Negga please.

  59. School admins can be pretty retarded. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In my experience, school administrators don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. It's very, very likely the school is dead wrong about this student. Here's what happened to me in high school:

    One day, a bunch of names were called to the office across the school's announcement system. Mine was among them. I found it odd that I was the only non-Chinese name to be called, but off I went to see what was the matter. I sat in a chair in the waiting area by the front of the office next to a bunch of Chinese students as I saw them being called into a spare office one by one.

    When my turn came, I was greeted by this fatass sweatbag we all knew to be the idiot "admin" who was on a lowest-bidder contract to a bunch of other schools in the area to feed the wheel-hamsters that ran our Novell Netware based network. My fucking god does he look smug today, I thought.

    Posturing himself like he's some kind of police interrogator, he asks me, "Doing a bit of hacking on the school network, are we?"

    I say, "No, I haven't." Which was the truth. "What proof do you have to back up this accusation?"

    With a grin, he pulls a piece of paper from a folder and emphatically slams it on the desk in front of me. "That's not what these LOG FILES are saying!"

    I look at his "log files", which is really just a printed out screenshot of Windows Explorer navigated to my personal file directory on the network. Then I realize what the idiot feels so proud of himself for finding.

    NetHack.exe

    "That's not a hacking tool." I say with a chuckle.

    "The program name says NET HACK. Clearly it's for HACKING the NETWORK," he sputters.

    This is the part where I got a bit shouty. "That's a video game, you moron! It's been in development since 1983! How much is this school paying you to be this fucking retarded?!"

    "Well, how am I supposed to know that's all it is? You expect me to double-click on THAT? I'm not a fool, I won't fall for your trap!" he blubbers.

    "You run it in a sandbox, or on an offline computer, or you... I dunno... LOOK IT THE FUCK UP. In any case, I'm leaving this office, and if you pursue any further accusations against me, I'm prepared to use this very situation and experience to demonstrate your incompetence."

    "Well... uh... you're not supposed to play video games in school."

    "Fuck you, retard. You have nothing on me. Let me go, or I will have you fired."

    He let me go. I never got into trouble, not for "hacking" and not for having a video game.

    But that's just one example of how schools jump to conclusions based on the "expertise" of morons.

  60. Re:Don't go to college, it's a waste of time & by apoc.famine · · Score: 1, Funny

    What are you talking about? I did all my clinical rotations online, and am now a heart surgeon! Youtube is amazing! I'm also an architect specializing in high-rises, bridge engineer, and highly qualified EOD technician. Never could have done any of that without wikipedia and Kahn Academy.

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  61. the alibis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If someone was hacking into her system remotely, aren't the odds pretty good that she and the hacker would have at least one instance of being both active on her laptop at the same time?

  62. Windbourne don't care about population by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Us has more Canada has less

  63. Re:Don't go to college, it's a waste of time & by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With the Internet nowadays, you can learn about ANYTHING you want, for free.

    Yes, especially things like "the Earth is flat" and "Hillary Clinton is an actual, practicing witch"

  64. two kinds of IQ test by epine · · Score: 1

    There are two kinds of IQ tests: Raven's progressive matrices (in the laboratory) and the abuse of small words (in real life).

    Tufts is either right or it expelled an innocent student on shoddy evidence four months before she was set to graduate.

    Massive fail.

    Everyone here who has never seen anyone get the right answer on shoddy evidence, raise your hands. Those of you with your hands down, you may continue to consume News for Nerds.

    The rest of you I'd like to see after class. Please bring a small, packed suitcase, and your favourite air-miles card, so I can credit you for all the catapult miles lovingly bestowed.

  65. Someone on the staff was taking bribes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And they changed multiple records just to cover who was paying. And when people started talking, they made sure to blame the poor foreign student that can't afford representation and the local authorities won't bother defending.

    There was a movie about it and everything...

  66. Sue them for Libel, Slandard, lost income... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If someone breaks an entering they go to jail, similarily, if an adult hacks your computer network, they go to jail. Why? If they do it there, they will do it elsewhere. You don't irresponsably send them back to a foreign country. You isolate them from society so we don't have burglaries and breakages.

    I might not think they deserve 10 years in federal jail, and I might think hacking far lesser of a crime of the two to be honest, but at the end of the day, they sure as heck deserve 6 months and a felony conviction on their record.

    Either they have forensic grade evidence or they do not. They may have had suspicions and they rolled with them. Furthermore, we have this magical concept of an ACID Database with a transaction log, it's not like every single transaction on the system can't be cryptographically signed these days; it's not like you won't spot the changes and their source if your database is configured right and it's not like that's terribly expensive to do either.

    If their evidence is, however, not sound, get a lawyer and get a pay day.

  67. Sue Tufts by Tjp($)pjT · · Score: 1

    Sue Tufts for her lifetime expected income as a veterinarian and her student loans. Plus -unitary damages to discourage this reckless behavior. Her alibis and witnesses sound pretty convincing. Even if Tufts reverses itself, she is still tarnished for life. She also should in her court case demand Tufts reverse the expulsion, validate her earned credits and pay for her to complete her degree (of her choice) in a different university, of her choice. I’m not litigious but I am outraged.

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  68. Go after accreditation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tufts University is accredited by the New England Commission of Higher Education. https://www.neche.org/for-the-public/comments-complaints/ Multiple specific complaints can be registered from insufficient due process, to use of evidence from non-qualified professionals to the fact that Tufts has essentially admitted to graduating a tainted class. I know the investigator was non-qualified, because they apparently did not insist on imaging her computer as part of the investigation at the beginning of the investigation. They only have 95 students in the 2019 class, they could have and should have imaged everyone's computer at the beginning of the investigation.

  69. Did anyone read the actual article? by Espectr0 · · Score: 1

    There were two rootkits found in the laptop, meaning anyone could have connected to her laptop and do the actual hacking.

    Though still altering a grade should be easy to trace as it should leave a trail in the database logs that the actual grade was changed

  70. Re:we need bankruptcy for student loans and then t by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    They will also stop giving loans for worthless degrees, so double win.

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  71. The right to defend herself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I attended Tufts years ago (university, not the vet school) there was indeed a somewhat lengthy process for student disciplinary action, especially during which expulsion was possible. I personally knew two students that faced expulsion for an off campus racist act, and they were given weeks to prepare before facing the board after being notified by letter. Both hired attorneys, whom attended the hearings - one was expelled and the other allowed to graduate (he was a senior and it was second semester before graduation) but with serious disciplinary action taken against him. I cannot imagine that this was sprung upon her without effort to prepare and defend herself, nor that she was not advised by anyone to retain an attorney.

    That said, I also performed some networking work at the Vet School campus (40+ miles from the main campus) as the IT team there was limited.

  72. Photos with an edit button? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What format is that? Oh, I see, the app has an edit button. That makes sense. You should have lead with 'I'm an idiot'.

  73. Re:Don't go to college, it's a waste of time & by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a child I always wanted to be a veterinarian. Then I spent about a year working for one after school, mainly cleaning, but also tending/walking animals in residency, and sometimes doing labs and assisting on surgeries. I was fine with most of it, until one day we got a dog that had some sort of blocking miscarriage, and to save the dog the vet decided to remove the uterus (containing a number of mostly developed puppies). Somehow when the last cuts were made, that uterus slipped off the table and hit the floor and living/dying gore went everywhere. Cured me of that. I quit shortly thereafter.

    Went into biology/chemistry and worked with PCBs and amphibians for a bit, then decided that wasn't for me either and became a computer tech and later a programmer.

  74. She should have taken an image before wiping by k3for · · Score: 1

    She didn't offer a computer image of her MacBook before she wiped it, and that's where the only forensic evidence lived that would possibly exonerate her. Of course, that's gone now, and maybe she knew that. While there's parts of this article that ring a little strange on both sides, even one act of impropriety on her part (such as enlisting an accomplice) is condemning.

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