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Kids From At Least 112 Countries, Including the US, Go on Strike To Protest Climate Change

It started 29 weeks ago when 16-year-old Swede Greta Thunberg began skipping school on Fridays to protest climate change by standing outside of her nation's parliament building. Today, kids from more than 110 countries, including the United States, are following Thunberg's lead and will play hooky from classes for something they think is ultimately more important: preventing the warming of their planet. Live updates, from The Guardian. Further reading: Thousands of scientists are backing the kids striking for climate change.

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  1. Hell, yes! by Joce640k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Time to stop creating climate policies based on the personal opinions of old people with only a few more years to live.

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    1. Re:Hell, yes! by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Instead, let's base policy on the personal opinion of kids who only believe what they heard somewhere? Sounds reasonable.

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    2. Re:Hell, yes! by penandpaper · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What are you afraid of, economic catastrophe?

      Yes. I am afraid of economic catastrophe and you should be too. If you think that is something not to be afraid of speaks volumes. Everything is secondary when the economy is crashing down and people are unemployed. Every high ideal you can think of will be put on hold and forgotten when people are feeling economic pain.

      Cheap energy has helped poor people. Nearly every solution I have seen to climate change will in some way increase the cost of energy which will be mostly felt by the poor. That is not a good solution for the poor. Would you care about what happens in 100 years if you go to bed hungry every night? It reminds me of conservation biology. Using endangered species for food is like burning the Mona Lisa for warmth. It's tragic but anyone would do it if they had to feed a family.

      Please do not disregard economic concerns because you are affluent and extrapolate what you can personally afford with what others can afford. Taxes are not the fix all to every problem and raising taxes can backfire. Every solution must have an economic understanding.

    3. Re:Hell, yes! by phantomfive · · Score: 2, Insightful
      btw, I already replied to you, but this misconception of yours is so wrong that it deserves to be addressed specifically:

      policy that basically every informed expert on the planet agrees must be undertaken

      No, you are wrong. There is no consensus among experts about what we should do to stop climate change. Some want to build nuclear power plants immediately to replace coal, some want to fund clean energy technology research, some want to transfer money to developing nations, some experts think we should do nothing and wait for solar to become cheap enough, some experts want to keep burning coal and invent ways to counter the effects of CO2 (like injecting aerosols directly into the atmosphere), others want to let the free-market solve the problem by creating carbon exchanges (these experts tend to be bankers).

      We know that adding CO2 to the atmosphere will have some effect on global temperatures. We have absolutely no consensus on what to do about it.

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    4. Re:Hell, yes! by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why not start somewhere? Nuclear and renewables are existing technology. Building more of them is an engineering problem. More doing, less talking.

    5. Re: Hell, yes! by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is about climate change, not about pollution.

      Anonymous Coward, the definition of pollution is "the presence in or introduction into the environment of a substance or thing that has harmful or poisonous effects."

      So yes, dumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere is pollution.

    6. Re:Hell, yes! by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes. I am afraid of economic catastrophe

      Then why not do something about climate change? The economic catastrophe that climate change with wreak upon the earth is unfathomable.

    7. Re:Hell, yes! by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have some friends who joined this protest. The kid quoted in the article said, "my life is literally on the line." It's not

      Their physical life may not be on the line but the potential quality of their future life definitely is.

      They don't want to spend their lives dealing with the consequences of the current policies.

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    8. Re:Hell, yes! by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because he'll be dead by then, duh. Today's climate obstructionists are simply putting the pain of taking action onto future generations, multiplied many times over by the delay.

      They're basically stealing shit from the future, in a very inefficient but cheap way, for their own personal gain.

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    9. Re:Hell, yes! by danbert8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So your plan is to promise to pay people for their work and then stiff them in the future? That sure sounds like a great way to save humanity... Debt isn't made up, it's owed to somebody. It's not just on a computer screen. If that's all debt is and it can be canceled out with no consequences, I hope you have a lot of physical resources at home because all your savings and assets are just numbers on a computer screen too.

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    10. Re:Hell, yes! by fred6666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The whole point of reducing greenhouse gases emissions is that it is cheaper than the consequences of not doing it. Which will, by the way, affect the poor.

      The real poor (as in under developed countries) use very little energy by the way. It's us, the rich (and you don't need to be that rich as long as you live in a rich country), with heated + air conditioned homes, hot water, green lawn, driving 20+ km to work in alone in their SUV and flying for vacations who do.

  2. Are those kids willing to sacrifice something? by reanjr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It doesn't take much to get a kid to decide not to go to school. But are they willing to make real sacrifices for the environment? Probably not. You have to give up meat. You can't buy electronics devices. You can't use plastics. Can't drink milk or consume many other animal products unless they are expensive sustainable varieties. You have to give up on shopping at the mall and do all your clothes shopping at thrift stores buying only highly durable clothing that lasts more than a season. Give up any sports or extracurriculars that require you to travel by bus.

    When kids do those things, they will be standing on firm moral ground.

    1. Re:Are those kids willing to sacrifice something? by magzteel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It doesn't take much to get a kid to decide not to go to school. But are they willing to make real sacrifices for the environment? Probably not. You have to give up meat. You can't buy electronics devices. You can't use plastics. Can't drink milk or consume many other animal products unless they are expensive sustainable varieties. You have to give up on shopping at the mall and do all your clothes shopping at thrift stores buying only highly durable clothing that lasts more than a season. Give up any sports or extracurriculars that require you to travel by bus.

      When kids do those things, they will be standing on firm moral ground.

      I've had similar conversations with my kids. They are just as willing to give up their conveniences as wealthy people are willing to give up the private jets they use to get to the next climate junket.

    2. Re:Are those kids willing to sacrifice something? by Kohath · · Score: 1, Insightful

      They'll sacrifice you and your lifestyle, as long as they get to keep theirs.

  3. Re:Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through li by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah sure because every gods-be-damned thing has to be about DEMOCRATS and REPUBLICANS and nothing else matters. Who cares about anything that's going to happen 100 years from now? Only what happens the next election, or the next fiscal year, or the next gods-be-damned news cycle has any relevance whatsoever to anyone anywhere.

    Go see your optometrist, myopian; apparently your prescription is so out-of-date that you can't see past your own nose anymore.

  4. I don't get it by TimMD909 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Missing 20% of your school days doesn't seem like a good way to achieving their goals. If you don't have a good education, how do you expect to be able to effect positive change in the world? Fixing things takes more than good intentions.

  5. The world keeps on spinning by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Kids aren't doing this because they genuinely give a damn about Climate Change.
    They're doing it because it's a convenient excuse to get out of school.

    Fail those who exceed the maximum number of days they can miss in a School Year.

    Once you introduce consequences into the equation, you'll figure out who is serious and who isn't.
    ( Those who are willing to watch their friends move on to the next grade level while they repeat it are the serious ones )

    Adult lesson of the day:
    It isn't much of a strike / protest unless you risk something in return.

    1. Re:The world keeps on spinning by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why fail anyone so long as they do their assigned homework and pass their exams? Why is listening to a teacher yammer and yap on and on about something that's in a book or online necessary? The culture (both at school and work) should change from "show up x hours per day and pretend to be busy" to "if you can do the assigned work, it doesn't matter how you do it, as long as you don't cheat."

  6. Who's coordinating this? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Who's coordinating this behind the scenes? Who are the adults in charge of this? "Get a free day off school if you just go with our political program" is too good to be true. Our investigative journalists are asleep at the wheel. This is big, very big. There's a Pulitzer Prize waiting for the one who busts this open.

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    1. Re:Who's coordinating this? by skam240 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      ....Or the more likely scenario that there is no massive conspiracy waiting to be broken open here.

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  7. Re:Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through li by lgw · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Who cares about anything that's going to happen 100 years from now? Only what happens the next election,

    100 years from now? The world's going to end in 20 years! Or so I hear every few years. Nuclear war between the US and Russia was a real threat to all humanity. Everything panic after is at most "meh".

    But. yeah, the Dems and GOP are both almost-entirely owned by the .01%. They only actually disagree about things that don't matter to the economy. Everything else is for show (e.g., Republicans crossing the aisle to stop the wall being built - can't let the economy be affected by that pesky democracy!).

    I'm not sure we can vote our way out of problems with economic consequences any more in America. Pity.

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  8. How shameful by pecosdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Manipulating kids on a global scale to push a political interest while pretending it's grass-roots and then reporting it that way in the news.

    It's time we call this what it is every time we see it. It's all about consolidated control.

    The people in charge of these movements don't give a rats ass about the environment, in fact they intentionally trigger and prolong real environmental disasters to justify more regulation. That's why the BP disaster in the gulf took so long to plug and rivers in Indian reservations were intentionally polluted by the EPA.

    They have to make each of us feel guilty in an individual basis too push their agenda. That's why stuff like this news article gets published.

    You want to really clean up the environment on a personal basis? Bring back deposit bottles, less manufacturing overhead and it gives kids and homeless something to make some money with. Stop the single use craze by buying in bulk and from farmers markets. Intentionally but things with less packaging.

    Want to address the larger scale? Legalize newer nuclear reactors that are less dangerous, like pebble bed reactors. Recycle the existing spent full no matter how Jimmy Carter feels about it. Get the ethanol out of our has engines. Start making Sterling Engines that run in ethanol to keep the corn lobby happy and to fuel local backup power and even supplement the grid. Use it to purify water while you're at it.

    This is propaganda people, recognize it, shine a light on it.

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  9. Re:Screw that... by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm just thinking how envious we should be that a kid found a way to play hooky that has the publicity and backing to keep them out of detention.

    Wish I'd thought of this when I was in high school (the assholes in charge would never have let it fly though!)

    Huh?

    Standing outside parliament all day long would be a dream day off school for you.

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  10. My head hurts by MBGMorden · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Half the arguments these days tend to go something like:

    Employee: "I'm taking Fridays off to protest global warming!"
    Boss: "How is that related to global warming?"
    Employee: "I can't believe you'd say something so racist!?!?!"
    Boss: "That had nothing to do with racism, and if you don't come in Friday you won't get paid."
    Employee: "How could you try to deny my existence!?"

    I'm not going to deny that global warming exists, but to speak bluntly: it doesn't much matter if we dump X amount of CO2 into the atmosphere in 100 years or 8000 years. On a global/geologic timescale they are approximately equal. Regardless of how fast we do it, every single fossil fuel on this planet will be used up and burned. All we can really do is cross our fingers and hope that however much CO2 that happens to be isn't so much that it kills everyone.

    If it's below that threshold, then we'll eventually create renewable energy sources out of necessity - essentially that will be our way of evolving through this change. If it's not, then whatever does survive will evolve to live in whatever new climate the planet settles into.

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