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Kids From At Least 112 Countries, Including the US, Go on Strike To Protest Climate Change

It started 29 weeks ago when 16-year-old Swede Greta Thunberg began skipping school on Fridays to protest climate change by standing outside of her nation's parliament building. Today, kids from more than 110 countries, including the United States, are following Thunberg's lead and will play hooky from classes for something they think is ultimately more important: preventing the warming of their planet. Live updates, from The Guardian. Further reading: Thousands of scientists are backing the kids striking for climate change.

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  1. Hell, yes! by Joce640k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Time to stop creating climate policies based on the personal opinions of old people with only a few more years to live.

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    1. Re:Hell, yes! by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Instead, let's base policy on the personal opinion of kids who only believe what they heard somewhere? Sounds reasonable.

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    2. Re:Hell, yes! by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Go watch this: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/... then go ahead and tell us all about how global climate change and the human role in it is just bullshit. Rhetorical on my part of course you Dominionist types are practically begging for the End Of The World anyway, and anything you can do to hurry that along is all to the good so far as you're concerned.

    3. Re: Hell, yes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is about climate change, not about pollution.

    4. Re:Hell, yes! by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Informative

      I like to get my science from papers and reports, not emotion-provoking film documentaries. If you actually want to understand climate change, start here (warning: pdf).

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    5. Re:Hell, yes! by alvinrod · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Let’s see if the kids will give up the conveniences in their lives that are necessitated by what they propose. Skipping out of school is viewed as a perk as far as kids go (I don’t suspect that today’s youth are any different from my generation) so right now I don’t place much value on their actions. It’s similar to the Kony 2012 slacktivism that’s easy to subscribe to because it carries no personal cost. I wonder how many would start walking to school instead of driving, hold on to their four year old phone for another four years because it’s still good, or not go on their family ski trip that they fly cross-country to every year.

    6. Re:Hell, yes! by penandpaper · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What are you afraid of, economic catastrophe?

      Yes. I am afraid of economic catastrophe and you should be too. If you think that is something not to be afraid of speaks volumes. Everything is secondary when the economy is crashing down and people are unemployed. Every high ideal you can think of will be put on hold and forgotten when people are feeling economic pain.

      Cheap energy has helped poor people. Nearly every solution I have seen to climate change will in some way increase the cost of energy which will be mostly felt by the poor. That is not a good solution for the poor. Would you care about what happens in 100 years if you go to bed hungry every night? It reminds me of conservation biology. Using endangered species for food is like burning the Mona Lisa for warmth. It's tragic but anyone would do it if they had to feed a family.

      Please do not disregard economic concerns because you are affluent and extrapolate what you can personally afford with what others can afford. Taxes are not the fix all to every problem and raising taxes can backfire. Every solution must have an economic understanding.

    7. Re:Hell, yes! by phantomfive · · Score: 2, Insightful
      btw, I already replied to you, but this misconception of yours is so wrong that it deserves to be addressed specifically:

      policy that basically every informed expert on the planet agrees must be undertaken

      No, you are wrong. There is no consensus among experts about what we should do to stop climate change. Some want to build nuclear power plants immediately to replace coal, some want to fund clean energy technology research, some want to transfer money to developing nations, some experts think we should do nothing and wait for solar to become cheap enough, some experts want to keep burning coal and invent ways to counter the effects of CO2 (like injecting aerosols directly into the atmosphere), others want to let the free-market solve the problem by creating carbon exchanges (these experts tend to be bankers).

      We know that adding CO2 to the atmosphere will have some effect on global temperatures. We have absolutely no consensus on what to do about it.

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    8. Re:Hell, yes! by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Carbon consumption and sprawl went down in the last recession. States started looking at their criminal justice and drug policies and examining the costs of mass incarceration. The economic stimulus program started funding transit projects like electric trains and light rail. Manufacturers started putting out smaller cars (sadly, the US is back on the fucking SUV wagon now), and electric cars started taking off. Recession = reform.

    9. Re:Hell, yes! by lgw · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Policies that limit pollution. What are you afraid of, economic catastrophe? Mommy telling you what to do?

      My college roommate was an environmental engineer. The actual tenet of the field is: "there is no such thing as too little pollution, but there is such a thing as too little production".

      Something to consider. If it's free of hard tradeoffs, it's not engineering.

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    10. Re:Hell, yes! by whitroth · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah, economic catastrophe... like 2008? You don't *like* lots of new jobs being created in renewable energy... as opposed to, say, coal[1]?

      And what do you think the economy's going to do, when bad weather screws the US heartland, and there are worldwide food shortages[2]?

      Or maybe those climate changes, like overuse of water and drought are some of what's causing conflict around the globe, and mass migration?[3]

      Gee, think of all the folks who'll lose their job in the buggy whip factories.

      1. 1972, the coal industry employed about 780,000 miners; coal output rose until about 15 years ago... but employs about 78,000 as of 5-10 years ago, due to strip mining and mountaintop removal.
      2. I don't suppose you know about the food riots in Mexico and Central America, when too much of US corn production was diverted to ethanol, and there were shortages for bread and tortillas.
      3. Do you have any clue about how major subsurface water, in the Central Valley of California, in the midwest, are being played out, not refilling, because of current weather, location, and agribusiness techniques?
       

    11. Re:Hell, yes! by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why not start somewhere? Nuclear and renewables are existing technology. Building more of them is an engineering problem. More doing, less talking.

    12. Re: Hell, yes! by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is about climate change, not about pollution.

      Anonymous Coward, the definition of pollution is "the presence in or introduction into the environment of a substance or thing that has harmful or poisonous effects."

      So yes, dumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere is pollution.

    13. Re:Hell, yes! by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes. I am afraid of economic catastrophe

      Then why not do something about climate change? The economic catastrophe that climate change with wreak upon the earth is unfathomable.

    14. Re:Hell, yes! by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have some friends who joined this protest. The kid quoted in the article said, "my life is literally on the line." It's not

      Their physical life may not be on the line but the potential quality of their future life definitely is.

      They don't want to spend their lives dealing with the consequences of the current policies.

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    15. Re:Hell, yes! by Joce640k · · Score: 2

      Yep. Standing outside parliament all day long is every schoolkid's dream day off.

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    16. Re:Hell, yes! by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because he'll be dead by then, duh. Today's climate obstructionists are simply putting the pain of taking action onto future generations, multiplied many times over by the delay.

      They're basically stealing shit from the future, in a very inefficient but cheap way, for their own personal gain.

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    17. Re:Hell, yes! by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2

      That's why we should be building newer, safer nuclear plants. This would be like banning construction of cars because of the Model T's crash safety record.

    18. Re:Hell, yes! by danbert8 · · Score: 2

      Based on whose projections? There is a known and guaranteed cost today of mitigating potential future climate change. The costs of the future are unknown and unknowable. So yes, they could be an economic catastrophe, but they could also be an economic boom. Maybe a warmer climate will increase valuable oceanfront property? Maybe a warmer climate will reduce cold weather costs like snow removal and ice melting? Maybe a warmer climate will make areas of current tundra open to agriculture? Maybe a warmer climate will increase fresh water resources due to more rain on average?

      If you believe that a warmer climate only has negative effects on life, economics, and prosperity, than you have drank the Kool Aid.

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    19. Re:Hell, yes! by danbert8 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But we don't have scientific consensus that the cost of mitigating it today is lower than the cost of dealing with it in the future. From an economic and human prosperity standpoint it's entirely possible that doing nothing today is the best course of action because it lifts the most people out of poverty and advancing technology will allow us to live in a warmer global climate more comfortably than we live today.

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    20. Re:Hell, yes! by danbert8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So your plan is to promise to pay people for their work and then stiff them in the future? That sure sounds like a great way to save humanity... Debt isn't made up, it's owed to somebody. It's not just on a computer screen. If that's all debt is and it can be canceled out with no consequences, I hope you have a lot of physical resources at home because all your savings and assets are just numbers on a computer screen too.

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    21. Re:Hell, yes! by fred6666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The whole point of reducing greenhouse gases emissions is that it is cheaper than the consequences of not doing it. Which will, by the way, affect the poor.

      The real poor (as in under developed countries) use very little energy by the way. It's us, the rich (and you don't need to be that rich as long as you live in a rich country), with heated + air conditioned homes, hot water, green lawn, driving 20+ km to work in alone in their SUV and flying for vacations who do.

    22. Re:Hell, yes! by fred6666 · · Score: 2

      Something to consider. If it's free of hard tradeoffs, it's not engineering.

      The problem is that many people wants pollution to be free.

      It should be a trade off. You emit X tons of CO2. You pay $Y.

  2. Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Go to school, kids. If you want to protest, do it in more productive ways--like cornering Diane Feinstein and asking her why she hates puppies.

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  3. Fridays off by The-Ixian · · Score: 4, Funny

    3 day weekends in the name of justice!

    Hmmmm..... I may need to implement this policy for myself....

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  4. Are those kids willing to sacrifice something? by reanjr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It doesn't take much to get a kid to decide not to go to school. But are they willing to make real sacrifices for the environment? Probably not. You have to give up meat. You can't buy electronics devices. You can't use plastics. Can't drink milk or consume many other animal products unless they are expensive sustainable varieties. You have to give up on shopping at the mall and do all your clothes shopping at thrift stores buying only highly durable clothing that lasts more than a season. Give up any sports or extracurriculars that require you to travel by bus.

    When kids do those things, they will be standing on firm moral ground.

    1. Re:Are those kids willing to sacrifice something? by magzteel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It doesn't take much to get a kid to decide not to go to school. But are they willing to make real sacrifices for the environment? Probably not. You have to give up meat. You can't buy electronics devices. You can't use plastics. Can't drink milk or consume many other animal products unless they are expensive sustainable varieties. You have to give up on shopping at the mall and do all your clothes shopping at thrift stores buying only highly durable clothing that lasts more than a season. Give up any sports or extracurriculars that require you to travel by bus.

      When kids do those things, they will be standing on firm moral ground.

      I've had similar conversations with my kids. They are just as willing to give up their conveniences as wealthy people are willing to give up the private jets they use to get to the next climate junket.

    2. Re:Are those kids willing to sacrifice something? by fred6666 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The problem of meat is not its energy density, but the amount of energy required to grow, especially beef and lamp. Pork and chicken are much better for the environment.

    3. Re:Are those kids willing to sacrifice something? by lgw · · Score: 2

      Substitute socialists for kids and you still have a true statement.

      Most kids are socialists, and rightly so: they've only lived in a way where an authority provides for their every need. Socialism is the only thing they've known. And that's fine, but eventually one should grow up.

      A. Occasionally Coherent

      That's pronounced "occasional cortex".

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    4. Re:Are those kids willing to sacrifice something? by Mousit · · Score: 2

      It doesn't take much to get a kid to decide not to go to school. But are they willing to make real sacrifices for the environment? Probably not. You have to give up meat. You can't buy electronics devices. You can't use plastics. Can't drink milk or consume many other animal products unless they are expensive sustainable varieties. You have to give up on shopping at the mall and do all your clothes shopping at thrift stores buying only highly durable clothing that lasts more than a season. Give up any sports or extracurriculars that require you to travel by bus.

      When kids do those things, they will be standing on firm moral ground.

      I wish TFS had bothered to link another Guardian article from earlier this week, that was specifically about Greta herself. Because.. yes, she did do those things. And not only did she make those sacrifices, she convinced her parents to as well. She even got her mother to give up flying, which had a severe impact on her career, for example.

      So yeah, at least in Greta's case, she's practicing what she preaches. Her whole family is.

  5. Kids believe in stories by Kohath · · Score: 2, Informative

    Someone told these kids a story about the future and they believed it. Childrens' belief in stories about the future is not a reason to do anything one way or another.

    People should stop pretending they know the future. They don’t.

    1. Re:Kids believe in stories by Ichijo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Do you contribute to a retirement account? Why do you do it if past performance is no guarantee of future results?

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    2. Re:Kids believe in stories by Kohath · · Score: 2

      It's tax free.

  6. Screw that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm just thinking how envious we should be that a kid found a way to play hooky that has the publicity and backing to keep them out of detention.

    Wish I'd thought of this when I was in high school (the assholes in charge would never have let it fly though!)

    1. Re:Screw that... by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm just thinking how envious we should be that a kid found a way to play hooky that has the publicity and backing to keep them out of detention.

      Wish I'd thought of this when I was in high school (the assholes in charge would never have let it fly though!)

      Huh?

      Standing outside parliament all day long would be a dream day off school for you.

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  7. In other news by steak · · Score: 2

    Wind up toy jitters around after key is turned.

  8. Re:Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through li by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah sure because every gods-be-damned thing has to be about DEMOCRATS and REPUBLICANS and nothing else matters. Who cares about anything that's going to happen 100 years from now? Only what happens the next election, or the next fiscal year, or the next gods-be-damned news cycle has any relevance whatsoever to anyone anywhere.

    Go see your optometrist, myopian; apparently your prescription is so out-of-date that you can't see past your own nose anymore.

  9. I don't get it by TimMD909 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Missing 20% of your school days doesn't seem like a good way to achieving their goals. If you don't have a good education, how do you expect to be able to effect positive change in the world? Fixing things takes more than good intentions.

    1. Re:I don't get it by siriuskase · · Score: 2

      You must have gone to my public school. When my parents figured out how a little I did to get my A's, and how poorly I was being prepared for college, they pulled me out and sent me to a top prep school for the last two years. Those were a very hard two years, I started so far behind my classmates, I couldn't afford to not pay attention in class. I was still into extracurriculars at the prep school, in fact they were required, but my classes were worth going to and participating in. I never regretted changing schools. I also learned what it means to have public schools for the masses and private schools for the elites.

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  10. The world keeps on spinning by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Kids aren't doing this because they genuinely give a damn about Climate Change.
    They're doing it because it's a convenient excuse to get out of school.

    Fail those who exceed the maximum number of days they can miss in a School Year.

    Once you introduce consequences into the equation, you'll figure out who is serious and who isn't.
    ( Those who are willing to watch their friends move on to the next grade level while they repeat it are the serious ones )

    Adult lesson of the day:
    It isn't much of a strike / protest unless you risk something in return.

    1. Re:The world keeps on spinning by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why fail anyone so long as they do their assigned homework and pass their exams? Why is listening to a teacher yammer and yap on and on about something that's in a book or online necessary? The culture (both at school and work) should change from "show up x hours per day and pretend to be busy" to "if you can do the assigned work, it doesn't matter how you do it, as long as you don't cheat."

  11. Who's coordinating this? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Who's coordinating this behind the scenes? Who are the adults in charge of this? "Get a free day off school if you just go with our political program" is too good to be true. Our investigative journalists are asleep at the wheel. This is big, very big. There's a Pulitzer Prize waiting for the one who busts this open.

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    1. Re:Who's coordinating this? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      So you're one of those weirdo coincidence theorists, huh? It is far more likely that this is being conducted with adult supervision, but whom? Youth have extended childhoods today, often going on until well into their 20s. You're going to tell me they can do complicated political activism, the kind that most adults can't get right, without any expert assistance?

      Even if it's not there, I would feel more comfortable if this is thoroughly investigated by people we trust the most: journalists. In fact, that sounds like an even better story, children working alone successfully coordinate an extremely multi-country political activism campaign. This sort of thing is beyond the ability of most nation-states. Either way, it's a Pulitzer waiting to be won.

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    2. Re:Who's coordinating this? by skam240 · · Score: 2

      "It is far more likely that this is being conducted with adult supervision"

      No it's not. Kids don't need adult supervision to ditch school.

      " You're going to tell me they can do complicated political activism, the kind that most adults can't get right, without any expert assistance?"

      Not at all. What I will tell you is that they will ditch school and/or take advantage of an excuse to be self righteous on a whim. It should surprise no one that a bunch of kids acted on perfectly open social media calls to ditch school.

      "Either way, it's a Pulitzer waiting to be won."

      No. No one will be talking about this in a week because it really doesn't matter much at all.

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  12. Re:Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through li by kenai_alpenglow · · Score: 2

    Who KNOWS for sure what's going to happen in 100 years? I've listened to too many sky-is-falling proclamations from scientists and politicians alike in the last 30 years. I have no faith that they can predict that far in advance. In fact, according to 10+ years ago we only had 10 years to fix things or we're done for. When they quit flying to their "climate change conferences", when they start practicing what they preach, until they come up with solutions other than "Give me money" "Give me power" then I'll believe them. Until then, this whole thing is too politicized to believe EITHER side as having the gospel truth.

  13. Re:Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through li by pgmrdlm · · Score: 2

    Well, maybe if she was informed by more then one source(like most adults). She would know that people are trying to do things.
    Myself, I think pollution is where we should start. Most pollution is plastic(fossil). It has clogged our rivers and oceans. It seeps into our ground water through either our land fills or trash left on land.
    If we were to move away from plastic products, don't you think our co2 or what ever other pollutant that contributes to global warming would decrease?
    Most western nations have already moved away from coal for producing electricity. Gas, wind, geo, Hydroelectric, nuclear. All of these has ALREADY contributed to lowering the effects of Global Warming. Research has already shown that people are moving away from everyone must own a car. People are again finding ways to survive without driving everywhere. At the very least, only driving when it is long distance.
    The research into finding other methods of energy, that do not contribute to global warming has never stopped.

    for her to say that we don't care shows that she really doesn't understand what has been done, what currently is being done, and what is trying to be done. In other words, she should stay in school so she can help intellectually to solving the problem.

    Bull shit, she is ABSOLUTELY wrong that "we don't care". Again, bull shit. Uninformed, brain washed.

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  14. Re:kids being manipulated by Scarletdown · · Score: 2

    They are probably being trained by whoever it is trying to get the voting age lowered to 16 so children can dictate adult policy.

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  15. How shameful by pecosdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Manipulating kids on a global scale to push a political interest while pretending it's grass-roots and then reporting it that way in the news.

    It's time we call this what it is every time we see it. It's all about consolidated control.

    The people in charge of these movements don't give a rats ass about the environment, in fact they intentionally trigger and prolong real environmental disasters to justify more regulation. That's why the BP disaster in the gulf took so long to plug and rivers in Indian reservations were intentionally polluted by the EPA.

    They have to make each of us feel guilty in an individual basis too push their agenda. That's why stuff like this news article gets published.

    You want to really clean up the environment on a personal basis? Bring back deposit bottles, less manufacturing overhead and it gives kids and homeless something to make some money with. Stop the single use craze by buying in bulk and from farmers markets. Intentionally but things with less packaging.

    Want to address the larger scale? Legalize newer nuclear reactors that are less dangerous, like pebble bed reactors. Recycle the existing spent full no matter how Jimmy Carter feels about it. Get the ethanol out of our has engines. Start making Sterling Engines that run in ethanol to keep the corn lobby happy and to fuel local backup power and even supplement the grid. Use it to purify water while you're at it.

    This is propaganda people, recognize it, shine a light on it.

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  16. Re:Really think human-affected climate change is B by Solandri · · Score: 2
    It's a foggy day. Your car is approaching a bridge. Someone standing besides the road waves his arms and yells that the bridge has collapsed. You continue driving. You pass more people waving at you trying to get you to stop, exclaiming the bridge is out. You continue driving. Eventually you get close enough that you can kinda see the bridge, and indeed it does seem to be out. Do you:
    • A. Ignore the warnings and continue driving at full speed.
    • B. Step on the brakes and stop.
    • C. Refuse to use the brakes because they generate harmful brake dust, and decide some new technology for stopping cars needs to be developed to prevent you from hurtling off the collapsed bridge. You always thought it would be a neat idea to construct a giant fan connected to a generator and a battery to slow down cars by recapturing its kinetic energy, without generating brake dust, so you immediately get all the passengers in your car to begin construction of a giant fan. Some of the passengers yell at you to just hit the brakes, we can build the fan later. But you yell back that they're stupid and that'll just kill everyone anyway through brake dust. Meanwhile the car is getting closer and closer to the bridge (which now definitely appears to be out) and the preliminary fan construction is barely slowing you down.

    If you really, truly believed the bridge was out, you'd obviously pick B. Environmentalists have forced us to pick C. We've had a solution to man-made climate change for over half a century - nuclear power. The only reason we haven't switched from fossil fuels to nuclear power is because of opposition by environmentalists. They suffer what I call just right-itis. To them there's just the right amount of global warming going on. Enough that we need to ditch fossil fuels and switch to renewable power to ensure the survival of the human race, but not enough that we need to switch immediately to nuclear power to buy us more time to work on developing renewable power technologies.

    If you really, truly believed global warming was a threat to the human race, you'd accept that nuclear power was the lesser of two evils, and that the obvious smartest course of action is to switch immediately from fossil fuels to nuclear power. Thus giving ourselves decades if not centuries to work on developing renewable power technology to replace nuclear power. That these environmentalists and liberals completely reject nuclear power suggests that they themselves don't really believe global warming is a real threat, and instead they just see it as a way to pressure others into implementing their preferred power solution faster.

  17. Did they? by argStyopa · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...or should the title really be "Kids skipping school opportunistically use some current cultural thing as excuse to avoid punishment"?

    I'm not sure I'm going to really follow the 'moral leadership' of a group who had to be repeatedly told to STOP EATING TIDE PODS.

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  18. My head hurts by MBGMorden · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Half the arguments these days tend to go something like:

    Employee: "I'm taking Fridays off to protest global warming!"
    Boss: "How is that related to global warming?"
    Employee: "I can't believe you'd say something so racist!?!?!"
    Boss: "That had nothing to do with racism, and if you don't come in Friday you won't get paid."
    Employee: "How could you try to deny my existence!?"

    I'm not going to deny that global warming exists, but to speak bluntly: it doesn't much matter if we dump X amount of CO2 into the atmosphere in 100 years or 8000 years. On a global/geologic timescale they are approximately equal. Regardless of how fast we do it, every single fossil fuel on this planet will be used up and burned. All we can really do is cross our fingers and hope that however much CO2 that happens to be isn't so much that it kills everyone.

    If it's below that threshold, then we'll eventually create renewable energy sources out of necessity - essentially that will be our way of evolving through this change. If it's not, then whatever does survive will evolve to live in whatever new climate the planet settles into.

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  19. Like boycotting school is actually going to help.. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    The carbon problem will be solved by people who stay in school, get themselves a solid STEM education, and manage to get energy and sequestration projects going in places where the student activists can't "deplatform" them.

  20. You have no idea by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    if they actually strike then yeah, this is a real sacrifice.

    First off, 7 companies are responsible for the bulk of carbon emissions. Climate Change is an industrial problem. We need to get mega business to clean up and we need to switch to clean renewables. Not eating hamberders isn't going to help. The companies making those hamburgers will just pollute the same with vegetables. Cow Farts are overrated to make climate change sound silly.

    As for the Kids, I don't know about the rest of the world but the kids in my high school were terrified to miss school. They're painfully aware of how competitive life is. They see how shitting their parents lives are and they're scared of that. This is by design, btw. Putting pressure on your working class is a great way to keep them under control.

    So yeah, it does take quite a bit to make kids skip these days. Times have changed old man. Seeing your mom and dad spend 10 months looking for work and constantly hearing "We can't afford that son" changes things.

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