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Beto O'Rourke's Secret Membership in America's Oldest Hacking Group (reuters.com)

One thing you might not know about Beto O'Rourke, the former Texas congressman who just entered the race for president is that while a teenager, O'Rourke acknowledged in an exclusive interview to Reuters, he belonged to the oldest group of computer hackers in U.S. history. From the report: The hugely influential Cult of the Dead Cow, jokingly named after an abandoned Texas slaughterhouse, is notorious for releasing tools that allowed ordinary people to hack computers running Microsoft's Windows. It's also known for inventing the word "hacktivism" to describe human-rights-driven security work.

Members of the group have protected O'Rourke's secret for decades, reluctant to compromise his political viability. Now, in a series of interviews, CDC members have acknowledged O'Rourke as one of their own.
Slashdot interviewed members of the Cult of the Cow in 1999 -- which gave bizarre answers.

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  1. He would get my vote (fist post?) by turp182 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    On this alone. The last Presidential race was a shit show of insane proportions (I voted, but not Dem/Repub).

    First post?

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    1. Re:He would get my vote (fist post?) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      which she never claimed

      She sure as fuck did.

      Warren's 1986 registration card for the State Bar of Texas could put an end to all that. The Washington Post obtained a copy of the signed document in which she wrote that her race was "American Indian." This supports the two critical charges against her: that she knowingly and personally claimed Native American heritage, and that she did so for the purpose of career advancement.

    2. Re:He would get my vote (fist post?) by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Fauxcohontas got into Harvard Law School as a minority hire, due to her falsely claiming to be Cherokee. Harvard proudly touted her as the school's first woman of color. No kidding, this really happened. Without it, does she get in? Who can say? We can only say that when she got in Harvard was desperate for people just like her.

      She also contributed recipes to a cookbook called, and I am not making this up: "Pow Wow Chow". Yikes. Can you imagine? That's a career-killer for anyone but a Democrat. What if you found out one of your friends had contributed to a cookbook with an offensive name like that? Would you cut off all ties?

      But that's not even the best part of the story. She plagarized two of the recipes from a French chef. Because that's what Harvard graduates do. The dishes? Why, those traditional Cherokee meals of Cold Omelets with Crab Meat and Crab with Tomato Mayonnaise Dressing. If there had only been some clue that a French chef was copied!

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    3. Re:He would get my vote (fist post?) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What has Beto done in his life that makes him worthy of being president? He was a rich prep-school kid who started a failed rock band, did drugs, got arrested, married a rich wife, and failed at everything he tried .... until politics. And then he lost the vote.

      Who is this guy and remind me why I should care about him?

    4. Re:He would get my vote (fist post?) by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Insightful
      My reply to this has disappeared, so repeating:

      There's a difference between claiming minority status and writing that you think you have native American blood on a student card. Her DNA test showed that actually she was correct in believing she had, and didn't lie on that either.

      Her student ID wasn't the source of the controversy, it was that she was listed as being in a minority by her employer.

      (One of the most abusive types of moderation is to make people think you're arguing something that you're not, by removing clarifications. If you're thinking of abusing your mod privileges here, do me a favor: kill yourself instead. You are a net negative to people on this planet, you make things worse, and you should be utterly ashamed of yourself.)

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    5. Re: He would get my vote (fist post?) by David+Gould · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Much like with Bernie Sanders and his "trouble with Black voters", those who are desperate to tear down Elizabeth Warren latched onto something that was "not especially popular", exaggerated it into "super UNpopular", and have been obsessively trying to spin it into bring her "major (perhaps fatal?) weakness".

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  2. Re:And just like that.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And the oppositie just gained a butt-load of ammunition. Most of the population doesn't know what hacktivism is and would just hear "hacker" and think "criminal". Although, considering the choices last race that might not be that bad for him.

  3. Not a Republican by Kohath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If he was a Republican, you'd be hearing:

    - He's the son of a judge
    - Went to boarding school
    - Dodged burglary and DUI charges
    - He married into a Billionaire family

    But he's a Democrat, so nothing matters. Different standards. It's so important that he be judged by different standards the media won't even give you the information you need to make any other judgement.

    1. Re:Not a Republican by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      1. This is literally an article about how he was a hacker - something that Slashdot may respect but most of America thinks equals criminal.
      2. What are you talking about, all of those things are not only well-reported, they're well-reported AND well-whined about by Republicans that they're not well-reported.
      3. Different standards, right, which is why Beto has had overwhelmingly negative press coverage.
      4. Seriously, try to think beyond your partisan prejudices. You've got a narrative, and you're letting it control the things you see and hear.

    2. Re:Not a Republican by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, it is pretty well spread across Texas. That is why a number of of us are like wtf. The opinion here is he is corrupt:

      Abused eminent domain against the hispanic community for his father in law's profit
      Has a record of DWI and Burglary

  4. Windows Hacker!?!? by Temkin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh great he's a Window's guy... No way I can vote for him now...

  5. Re:Cult of the Dead Cow... that takes me back by alvinrod · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and his thoughtful and nuanced policy positions

    What exactly are those? I went to his website https://betoorourke.com/ which contains absolutely nothing on his positions. There are only links to a store (one of which is placed prominently), applying for a job in his campaign, and a donating to his campaign. Is this serious?

    This guy isn't exactly giving me a reason to even consider him as a serious candidate. Also, he couldn't even beat the Zodiac killer so by the transitive property of politics that I've just invented, he wouldn't unseat Trump, so I'm not interested.

  6. Whine, whine, whine... by MikeRT · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And our (Virginia) Lt. Governor is credibly accused of forcing a woman down to suck his dick and the same people who wanted to all but literally nail Roy Moore (Republican) to a literal cross over accusations are shrieking "due process!!11!" or trying to just pretend there's no reason to even investigate.

    1. Re:Whine, whine, whine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      shrieking "due process!!11!"

      Who exactly is doing that? Or is it just faux news telling you that everyone is.

      Patrick Hope plans to introduce articles of impeachment, and nearly every democrat of consequence has denounced him.

      From your favorite lefty news source, the NY Times:

      Virginia Lieutenant Governor Faces Eroding Support From Democrats After New Accuser Speaks

      https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/08/us/politics/meredith-watson-justin-fairfax.html

  7. Re:Cult of the Dead Cow... that takes me back by bobbied · · Score: 5, Informative

    Between this, skateboarding as an adult, and his thoughtful and nuanced policy positions I think this Beto guy is pretty good.

    Being a Texas voter who was paying attention to his policy positions as he lost to Cruz, I can tell you his positions may be nuanced, but they are NOT thoughtful. What they are is focus group tested, trite policy statements which when you press them are really just a mishmash of liberal talking points. Once he gets off his stump speech scripts, he totally breaks down on content, so if you press him on details, he doesn't have them to give... Or more to the point, won't actually be pinned down on the details, because the devil is in the details and there is no way it works when you start talking detail.

    However, Beto.. AkA Robert... Does have a stage presence that is hard to match. He comes across as a natural on stage, plays to the audience well, looks good and knows how to give a speech. Reminds me of Dan Quale. He will appeal to the young crowd with his hobbies and stuff, but where the trappings are good, the substance is kind of bland.

    However, the issue here is will he win the primary. I think the answer is no, not this time around. I see him finishing up at best #3, behind Sanders and Biden, but I'll not be surprised he's out long before the likes of Warren and Harris. So Beto is in this for 2024, everybody knows he's not got a prayer in 2020.

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  8. Big plus from my viewpoint by zuki · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Finally someone who might get technology. On that alone, I'd give him a chance FFS... instead of being stuck with the pontificating tribe elders who only see a 'series-of-tubes'.

  9. Re:Enough of the "Beto" stuff by Nidi62 · · Score: 3, Informative

    He is just about as Latin as tuna casserole.

    The word "tuna" actually derives from the Spanish word "atún". And, while it's the wrong latin, casserole does have Latin etymology.

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  10. Re:Cult of the Dead Cow... that takes me back by OzPeter · · Score: 3, Funny

    Look at the quotes from his speech yesterday. He was off script and sounded exactly like Trump.

    Seth Meyer even read his transcript in Trump's voice: https://youtu.be/CuXlBSuQbMo?t...

    So you're saying that Beto is eminently electable for 2020?

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  11. Cult of the Dead Cow interview by thomst · · Score: 3

    The September 1999 cover story for the late, great Boardwatch Magazine was my interview with Sir Dystic, which took place at the house in the Oakland Hills he shared with a half-dozen other members of the Cult of the Dead Cow.

    Note that the link points to my own website, because no other web archive of the magazine from that period exists, afaik. But here's the Caltech Library citation for the article, in case you have any doubts about its provenance ...

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  12. Re:Me too by Aighearach · · Score: 3, Informative

    He wasn't a "hacker," he joined an underground BBS group that was into writing morbid, bloody, and offensive fiction. And sharing pirated games. The group was named the Cult of the Dead Cow. It was just a writing club.

    Then a couple decades much later, one of the people from that group released Back Oriface, so they got associated with hacking/cracking. But that has absolutely nothing to do with this guy.