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Apple Announces 10.5-inch iPad Air and Refreshed iPad Mini (engadget.com)

Ahead of a planned event next week, Apple today unveiled two new iPads. From a report: The new, larger, 10.5-inch iPad Air will arrive with a 70 percent performance boost compared to its predecessor, thanks to the company's A12 Bionic chip with Apple's Neural Engine. That'll be useful alongside the now 20-percent larger display -- which is compatible with the first-gen Apple Pencil too.

A new iPad Mini has been a long time coming. The 7.9-inch option will, barring screen size, match the Air on specs. The screen is also 25 percent brighter versus old iPad minis, and will also support Apple Pencil -- the tiniest model to do so. Both new iPads have a laminated display that brings the surface glass and screen closer together to improve visibility -- and making them at least a little more desirable than Apple's entry-level iPad. Neither has FaceID built-in, it seems. Look, there's that Home button.
The new iPad mini starts at $399 for the Wi-Fi model and $529 for the variant that includes cellular support. The new iPad Air starts at $499 for Wi-Fi, and $629 for Wi-Fi and cellular model.

112 comments

  1. Meh by alvinrod · · Score: 1

    I've still got an Air 2 that works fine for the light web-browsing and Netflix watching that it gets used for, and I think a lot of people are in the same situation as I am here. At least Apple has moved past putting 32 GB (or even 16 GB) on the base models. 64 GB feels like a sufficient amount for loading it up with stuff when going on a trip and not having to worry about the lack of space.

    1. Re:Meh by fluffernutter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If I was shopping for a tablet I'd get the most storage for the least price. Usually that means not buying an Apple product.

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    2. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      When I go shopping for a tablet, I'd get the one that is still supported 2 years out. Usually that means buying an Apple product.

    3. Re:Meh by tepples · · Score: 1

      If I was shopping for a tablet I'd get the most storage for the least price.

      A tablet that does not run the applications for which you bought a tablet isn't useful no matter how much storage you buy. Many paid phone and tablet apps and games are iOS-first if not iOS-only. If you just want storage and don't care about apps, you could always buy a USB flash drive.

    4. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think I'd want to play commercial games, because there are tons of re-releases of the Myst series (as an example) or pretty anything really. But I will never have a google account and also don't give a shit about another Lineage OS device with nothing interesting to run on it - I would rather get an x86 netbook and run linux, or an ARM "PDA" with keyboard or an x86 tablet that runs linux.
      So the tablet I'd be interested in is iPad non-Air, non-Pro, larger storage edition (don't remember if it's 128GB or 256GB)

      That's like $400 for the tablet, and $100 credit to "buy" games? (and maybe other shit if there's good software). Not such a bad deal for a "high end" tablet with an app store with software actually meant for tablets. What am I going to do instead, buy an Android tablet and run spyware fart apps for phones? a Windows tablet and run Minesweeper and Office? The easiest though, is to not buy any.

    5. Re:Meh by fluffernutter · · Score: 0

      Well if you're going to purchase iOS only apps then yeah you pay the Apple tax. You had better enjoy that app to make the total cost worth it.

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    6. Re:Meh by fluffernutter · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I mean, technically if you're paying $200 more for an iPad so you can use one app that doesn't work on Android, you're paying $200 for that app.

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    7. Re:Meh by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      There are many games available for Android.

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    8. Re: Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Unsophisticated and non-discriminating users such as yourself are well-served by 3rd tier tablets from the shopping network.

    9. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It is a trusted device. Do you use public computers that are likely loaded with viruses to log on to your bank accounts and such? A device that is relatively free of 0-days and is something that only you can use is quite valuable when travelling.

    10. Re: Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I look to buy a tablet, I usually know that Apple isnâ(TM)t going to be the least expensive but also isnâ(TM)t going to be loaded with adware and is OS upgradable so I donâ(TM)t put everyone elseâ(TM)s infrastructure at risk with an infected and neglected device.

    11. Re: Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sophisticated users do.

      In your case, maybe only your Youporn password is at risk?

    12. Re:Meh by jellomizer · · Score: 0

      The problem is the iPads, are still limited by iOS apps. So most iOS apps, will not be made to handle the newest models, because for one it needs to support on the lower power phones, and just change the screen display (to save on re-coding) and the fact that most people are not using the newest and wowest iPad.

      These are not PC laptops. These are low power devices and are limited in what they can do.

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    13. Re: Meh by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      I've never had a hack so I'm not going to worry about it until it happens.

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    14. Re: Meh by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      That risk is way overblown.

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    15. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I was shopping for a tablet I'd get the most storage for the least price. Usually that means not buying an Apple product.

      And yet you continue to be an iOS Developer.

      Why?

      Oh, I know why: Because they are the only Tablets worth buying.

    16. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is a trusted device. Do you use public computers that are likely loaded with viruses to log on to your bank accounts and such? A device that is relatively free of 0-days and is something that only you can use is quite valuable when travelling.

      Don't engage flufferNUTTER; he knows full well why iOS Devices are the best-in-class; but he just likes to troll Apple Hate in a Friendly Forum for it.

    17. Re: Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unsophisticated and non-discriminating users such as yourself are well-served by 3rd tier tablets from the shopping network.

      flufferNUTTER is an iOS Dev., FFS!!!

      He just has brain damage. Pay him no mind.

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    18. Re: Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That risk is way overblown.

      Not according to hundreds of articles on Slashdot and other places.

      So, prove it, or GTFO, Hater-who-constantly-bad-mouths-Apple-while-making-a-living-as-an-iOS-App-Developer. ...or so he claims.

    19. Re: Meh by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      I drive to my bank and talk to a teller.

      When I want to carry a lot of content around, I can use a little wallet of microSD cards if I wish.

      Have fun with your eyeCloud. You're safe, Apple is watching and will protect.

    20. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are many malware available for Android.

      FTFY

    21. Re: Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound like one of those bind foolish apple worshippers.

    22. Re: Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are one of those moronic apple worshiping idiot that drive people to hate apple. Congratulations

    23. Re:Meh by guacamole · · Score: 1

      The question, why you need so much storage on a tablet? I mean, I understand the time when tablets and phones came with 16GB of storage, and that was a pain, always. But now 32-64GB base storage is now standard even on cheap throwaway Amazon Fire HD10. One hour of Prime Netflix HD stream compresses to something like less than 1GB. So even on a tablet or phone with only 32GB of storage I can download enough shows to last a long transatlantic flight. The 64GB version of iPad will pretty much end this discussion for the vast majority of owners.

  2. Re:GNAA GAY NIGGERS USA GAY NIGGER PATROL FELCH SQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    end this! after new zealand this has to be stopped. no more anonymous comments. no dissenter. no usenet. no vpn. this all must end. biometric data associated with all posts online. its time to end this hate and insanity once and for all!

    Whats this got to do with a new product release?

  3. Can you release more, Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm only almost, but not quite, entirely fallen asl...*snoore*

  4. Headphone jack by psergiu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And both of them still have the headphone jack.

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    1. Re: Headphone jack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No courage shown by apple here.

    2. Re:Headphone jack by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      are they still stuck with a proprietary charging port or they moved on to USB-C ?

    3. Re:Headphone jack by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

      What? But cables aren't good for anything! Totally obsolete. I love the sound of Bluetooth compression.

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    4. Re:Headphone jack by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      More room.

      The primary reason to get rid of the headphone jack on phones, is because the amount of empty space it takes up, which could be used for something else, or allow for enough space for battery expansion, and prevent explosions (Note 7).

      The iPad as more room to engineer around, so adding a headphone jack is less of an engineering trick.

      Could Apple design a phone with a headphone jack... Sure, but other then angering a bunch of people who wouldn't buy Apple anyways most people don't use headphones too much with their phone anyways, many of the ones who do, use the headphones included in the box, or just use the dongle, and keep their external phones plugged in.
      Sue I will get a hundreds of people who say they were Apple users until this switch... But really I am more willing to bet that you wanted to get off Apple anyways and you had an excuse.

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    5. Re:Headphone jack by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Except they ruled that out in tests where they take the phone apart.

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    6. Re: Headphone jack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound like a retard. Flimsy thin ijunk without headphone jack have less battery than prior models, not more.

    7. Re:Headphone jack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The obvious reason for this: Children.

      Doesn't seem right that you'd give a young child expensive wireless headphones.

      The AirPods belong to mommy and daddy, the kids get whatever wired leftovers that haven't broken yet.

    8. Re:Headphone jack by geekmux · · Score: 1

      And both of them still have the headphone jack.

      Sadly, the demand to make iPhones toilet-water-proof far exceeded the need for headphone jacks.

      I'm guessing there are a lot fewer iPads regularly hovering over water.

    9. Re: Headphone jack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who is âoetheyâ? What âoetestsâ?

    10. Re:Headphone jack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? But cables aren't good for anything! Totally obsolete. I love the sound of Bluetooth compression.

      Bluetooth doesn't compress. Audio CODECS transmitted over Bluetooth compress, moron. ...and there are definitely better ones, like AAC and AptX, that don't sound like the baseline CODEC designed for telephony.

    11. Re:Headphone jack by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      I love the sound of Bluetooth compression.

      Sorry, all I heard was, "lov Blutoth compreson".

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    12. Re: Headphone jack by Solandri · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Apple didn't use the space saved by removing the headphone jack for anything. They just filled the space with a plastic insert. (The barometric reason Apple fed people is B.S. spouted by marketing doing damage control. You don't need a space to measure barometric pressure. You just need air since it'll all be at the same pressure, and there's plenty of air inside the rest of the iPhone.)

    13. Re: Headphone jack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linked story has nothing about the iPhone X, Xs, or Xr.

    14. Re:Headphone jack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or allow for enough space for battery expansion, and prevent explosions (Note 7).

      Were you dropped as a child, or are we talking fetal alcohol syndrome here?

    15. Re:Headphone jack by irving47 · · Score: 1

      > I'm guessing there are a lot fewer iPads regularly hovering over water.

      That's what the hydrophobic coating is for.

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    16. Re:Headphone jack by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      More room.

      The primary reason to get rid of the headphone jack on phones, is because the amount of empty space it takes up, which could be used for something else, or allow for enough space for battery expansion, and prevent explosions (Note 7).

      I guess that's why a solitary hardware hacker was able to put a headphone jack in the iPhone 7... Because there was all that empty space in the non-headphone-equipped iPhone. The lack of a headphone jack has nothing to do with batteries or explosions or other stuff, it's about pushing sales of Bluetooth headphones - Airpods and Beats, specifically.

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    17. Re:Headphone jack by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Too bad that Apple couldn't do what Lil' Wayne and Samsung did...

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  5. 10.5 inches is too small by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am going to wait until next year's revolutionary, disruptive tablet that will have a 10.6" screen and no stupid headphone jack. Who the hell needs a headphone jack anymore? Beats by Dre headphones have bluetooth!

    1. Re:10.5 inches is too small by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Too small?!? That's not what my wife said!

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    2. Re:10.5 inches is too small by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe 'microscopic' was the term she used...

    3. Re:10.5 inches is too small by cellocgw · · Score: 1

      Too small?!? That's not what my wife said!

      Yeah but she also said she wants it to last a little longer.

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    4. Re:10.5 inches is too small by EvilSS · · Score: 1

      You should have bought a Dell then! Dell used to sell a 18.4 inch "tablet" PC. I almost bought it just for the utter ridiculousness of it.

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    5. Re:10.5 inches is too small by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Yes, Apple battery time has always been very disappointing to her...

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  6. Get your act together, Tim Apple! by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

    Apple under Jobs introduced different and interesting products. Apple under Cook seems to produce nothing but iterations, gradual updates of old stuff. They're boring now.

    1. Re:Get your act together, Tim Apple! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Calm down, dweeb. They're announcing their TV service with 5 new exclusive shows next Monday.

    2. Re: Get your act together, Tim Apple! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure how that is interesting or different. But please keep cheerleading for apple

    3. Re:Get your act together, Tim Apple! by bob4u2c · · Score: 1

      YES, 5 new shows! Ground breaking!

      Honestly though, I'm pretty sure each major network cancels more shows than that after just the first episode airs.

      I'm not saying people won't buy into it, Apple seems to have a knack for being the trendy thing to have even when there is no need for it. These minor upgrades however are slowly chipping away at that image. I guess when your stake on the next big thing is 5 new TV shows, you are pretty much out of ideas. How long will it be before we start seeing retro products again, like the clear iMacs with clear zip drives?

      As for a more powerful, bigger screen, larger storage capacity, and brighter display gadget; well take your pick. Most of which can be had for under $200, so even if it won't run the latest thing in a year or two, you can buy a new one and still come out ahead. Currently I'm rocking a $120 tablet with 10" display, and a 200Gig micro SD card loaded with enough movies and shows to keep me occupied for weeks.

    4. Re:Get your act together, Tim Apple! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who gives a crap about shows? Is Apple in the technology business or a TV production company? Innovation is copying HBO & Showtime now?

    5. Re:Get your act together, Tim Apple! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5 new SJW shows on diversity, you mean? AppleThink is scarier than GoogleThink. And that's saying something.

    6. Re:Get your act together, Tim Apple! by Daralantan · · Score: 1

      Soon they will harness their Courage(TM) and release new models of the iPad and iPhone that have removed the next big thing...... The screen! Purchase this metal sheet with nothing more than a glowing apple on it! The iSlab.

    7. Re:Get your act together, Tim Apple! by gtall · · Score: 1

      I be happy for another iteration of a cheese grater Mac tower. Instead all we get is this tat.

    8. Re:Get your act together, Tim Apple! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're copying Netflix, but they're also copying Spotify. Having one subscription that provides TV, music, and news all with OS level integration is going to be hard to beat. Guarantee the losers will be crying for Liz Warren to break them up soon after launch.

    9. Re:Get your act together, Tim Apple! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you mean a global company isn't just going to make lilly white shows for broke hicks in dying red states? Shocker.

    10. Re:Get your act together, Tim Apple! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple under Jobs introduced different and interesting products. Apple under Cook seems to produce nothing but iterations, gradual updates of old stuff. They're boring now.

      Apple's buying time. They fail it.

    11. Re:Get your act together, Tim Apple! by guacamole · · Score: 1

      Which is a proof that the iSomething market has reached a level of good maturity a long time ago. If it wasn't for battery issues, I'd still be fine with using either iPhone 6S or Samsung Galaxy S5 both from something like four years ago. Having more than 16GB of storage would be nice, but besides that, those old iPhones and iPads would be perfect or acceptable to most users.

  7. Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And people say innovation at Apple died with Steve Jobs. C'mon Tim Cook.... Really wow us: Rose gold iPads!

  8. More toys by DogDude · · Score: 0

    I'm disappointed at seeing Apple morphing into a toy company. It used to be a company, that, even while I was using Windows stuff, was at least a viable alternative for high end hardware and robust software. Now it's not even a viable alternative (for work... they make great toys). What a shame. Now my options are down to Windows... or Windows. Ugh. I wish desktop Linux was a viable alternative. That'd be pretty awesome.

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    1. Re:More toys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Desktop linux is very viable alternative. I spend 90% of time in linux and 10% in windows reading email and browsing the web. Depends on what you do.

    2. Re:More toys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if some proprietary Solaris fork would still be viable (w/ "community edition"). It struck me a few years ago that some decidedly workstation/desktop shit was still available for Solaris like nvidia proprietary driver, Adobe Flash plug-in and (still to this day) Virtualbox. Now, Oracle kills Solaris 12 and will release a decade of Solaris 11.x with a Gnome 3 desktop. Which is remarkable for a zombie Unix.
      My "what if'' scenario is probably useless, but surely this could be adequate in theory? There aren't that many more piles of decades of technology, work and billions dollars for this. OSX (and NexTstEP), Linux, Windows, BSD, Solaris.

      OR.. can you build a PC workstation (64+GB RAM, 2-4TB SSD, high res display, etc.) and run Chromium OS on that. Kidding, but I wonder where we're headed.

    3. Re:More toys by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I wonder if some proprietary Solaris fork would still be viable (w/ "community edition").

      It depends on what you are running. Just like Macs were only ever commercially useful for DTP or music because of the software available, Solaris has only ever been useful in certain industries. To be fair, through most of history it's been useful for more than Macs have, but today there are few if any commercial applications being distributed for Solaris x86.

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    4. Re:More toys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd rather use Mac OS X than Windows any day of the week. I have reached a point in my life where a computer that will last me for 4-5 years can cost an extra $200 if it's better. Sorry that you're poor and have a shitty job.

    5. Re:More toys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Apple computers only cost $200 more than their competitors I don't think most people would have a problem with them. Currently their idiot tax can run out to thousands, though. e.g.: A HP Pavilion 27" all-in-one desktop PC is half the price of the base model 27" iMac with very similar specs but comes with 2TB of storage versus Apple's 1TB.

    6. Re:More toys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm disappointed at seeing Apple morphing into a toy company. [...]

      It all got started here: http://www.yakimapolice.org/

  9. That's the iPad Pro by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    are they still stuck with a proprietary charging port or they moved on to USB-C ?

    The iPad Pro uses USB-C, so if that is a requirement you have a solution already. Nothing wrong with more consumer oriented gear that will not have much attached over a lifetime of the product using different ports.

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    1. Re:That's the iPad Pro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, is that the main difference between the "Air" and "Pro"?, if so that's lame. Both might be USB-C, we'll see. The USB-C might be not so useful though. If you can't connect a mouse, a USB drive, a printer who gives a shit then?

    2. Re:That's the iPad Pro by fred6666 · · Score: 2

      The USB-C might be not so useful though. If you can't connect a mouse, a USB drive, a printer who gives a shit then?

      The main advantage of standard connectors is to be able to use the same cable to charge different devices. You can charge a Macbook, an iPad Pro, an Android cell phone over USB-C but for some lame excuses, you need another cable to charge your new iPad.

  10. Re:Blatant Ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm glad they posted this. My wife has a retina version of the ipad mini and it's getting a bit long in the tooth. I've been waiting for some time for news of the new ipad mini.

  11. Re:OMG, who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That would be a long wait. I am not a fan of Apple products, I think they are way overpriced for what they provide. There are a lot of people however who are differ in this opinion and are happy to give money to Apple. Surprising amount of people actually. So until this changes, Apple will be alive and well.

  12. Let's say someone wanted a 10-in android tablet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are the options? Any mostly stock OS?

    1. Re:Let's say someone wanted a 10-in android tablet by Solandri · · Score: 1

      Samsung is pretty much the only Android tablet maker taking the large tablet form factor seriously. Their top-of-the-line model (Tab S4) is probably overpriced for most people's tastes. Their low-end model (Tab A 10.5, latest mode was released last year) is decent for the price, but most will probably find it lacking. They're scheduled to release a new mid-tier model (Tab S5e) in the next few months, that looks like it'll be a promising in-between tablet.

      Google pretty much stopped supporting tablet features in Android, so stock Android on a large tablet is not that great an experience. Like using a giant phone. Tablet makers have had to make their own modifications to Android to take advantage of the larger screen space (e.g. running multiple apps side-by-side).

    2. Re:Let's say someone wanted a 10-in android tablet by Maltheus · · Score: 1

      Yeah, when I discovered this, and the fact that Lineage isn't even supported on any of the Samsung tablets available for sale, I finally gave up and switched over to Apple.

      I never thought I would do that because I prefer having more control, but Google has no follow through on anything they release. If you like an app or feature, it probably won't be around in a couple of years. And trying to keep an Android tablet updated is a nightmare. I've pretty much given up on Google for anything but search, and even that's not as good as it once was.

    3. Re:Let's say someone wanted a 10-in android tablet by guacamole · · Score: 1

      Google pretty much stopped supporting tablet features in Android, so stock Android on a large tablet is not that great an experience. Like using a giant phone. Tablet makers have had to make their own modifications to Android to take advantage of the larger screen space (e.g. running multiple apps side-by-side).

      I highly disagree with this statement. Most tablet users use their tablets for 4-5 tasks that are specially well suited for tablet application, such as streaming apps, book readers, web browsers, note taking, and maybe one more task. That's why I use my tablet for, and I never felt my tablet to be a "big phone". It is true there are many crappy apps on App Store that are not optimized for tablet UI. But guess what, over 90% of Android App store apps are such crap that I wouldn't put them even on a phone, and I really don't care whether they have a tablet optimized UI.

  13. 10.5"? - are MS app costs still affected by size? by SomePoorSchmuck · · Score: 1

    At one time - this has been a couple years - you could only get free MS productivity apps on screens SMALLER than 10.1".
    If your tablet was larger than that, you had to pay for a consumer Office365 license because MS considered your device equivalent to a full desktop/laptop.

    Is this still in effect or has MS given that up?

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  14. You can connect USB-C devices by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    If you can't connect a mouse, a USB drive, a printer who gives a shit then?

    The people who can attach USB-C hubs, for video output or SD card attachment or keyboards or other USB-C devices...

    Some things may not work at the moment, like USB-C drives, but eventually they will (there's already at least one external drive maker that has an app that can connect to an external drive they make).

    The advantages are being able to use the same adaptors for things like video across a laptop and the iPad....

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    1. Re:You can connect USB-C devices by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      I try to avoid buying USB-C devices because so many devices use regular USB-A. My most regular use for a flash drive is to transfer video to my TV; so maybe when TVs start getting USB-C then the devices will make more sense but right now USB-A is cheaper and more useful. It sucks to use a dongle all the time but thats what you get when you buy Apple.

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    2. Re:You can connect USB-C devices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I try to avoid buying USB-C devices because so many devices use regular USB-A. My most regular use for a flash drive is to transfer video to my TV; so maybe when TVs start getting USB-C then the devices will make more sense but right now USB-A is cheaper and more useful. It sucks to use a dongle all the time but thats what you get when you buy Apple.

      Smart people just use AirPlay, not Sneakernet, to play videos from their iPhones, iPads and MacBooks directly on their TV. ..and USB-C is the future. USB-A is still flipping about like a fish out of water; but its days are definitely numbered.

    3. Re:You can connect USB-C devices by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Ok so does AirPlay work with my brother in law's TV? I think it's an LG.

      I thought not.

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  15. Re:OMG, who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only iDiots care... I don't see them going out of business soon, there is an iDiot born every second (with apologies to P.T. Barnum)!

  16. That's not really true by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    So most iOS apps, will not be made to handle the newest models

    I find that something like 90% of iOS apps handle new features within a year or so - like FaceID or the Files app.

    because for one it needs to support on the lower power phones, and just change the screen display (to save on re-coding)

    That is totally wrong, there are a lot of ways to easily provide for more complex UI on the iPad without much coding at all.

    On top of that there are a number of very powerful iPad only apps...

    These are low power devices and are limited in what they can do.

    That is also wrong, the latest iPad Pro models are FASTER at browsing large 16-bit TIFF files than many desktops.

    At this point they are extremely powerful and not that limited, with what limits there are fading away over time...

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    1. Re: That's not really true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "That is also wrong, the latest iPad Pro models are FASTER at browsing large 16-bit TIFF files than many desktops."

      LOL, yea because that's how I test the speed of my devices. How fast they browse large 16 bit tiff files.

      You are delusional sometimes.

    2. Re:That's not really true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what you are really trying to say is:

      "My desktop is very old and really slow..."

      My 8 year old Desktop will open 16bit TIFF files very quickly - thank you very much.

  17. Call Me When Half That Price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't buy tablets/phones over $275. Call me when these new devices are old enough to drop below that threshold.

    In the meantime, I love the several iPad 4 Minis I bought last Christmas for $250 each (128 GB models). They'll keep me happy until the refreshed 256 GB mini drops below $300.

  18. Jewelry. Not even toys. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Toys are useful. Toys teach and require skill.

    Apple only sells purely decorative jewelry. Don't be distracted by the remains of a computer in there, heat-throttling away, never having a chance to be upgraded. It only serves the fixed set of fixed-function dazzling modules. The usee never gets to have contact with it.

  19. Re:OMG, who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple products are over-priced ...

    But at least they get updates and don't come with uninstallable junkware.

    Sadly, Apple is the only company making products where both of the above are true.

    Android devices are almost always stuck with the version they came with, and on the desktop Windows update installs junkware every update and most Android phones come with uninstallable garbage like Facebook apps and such.

    In this sad world, Apple is the only company still practicing the fundamentals.

  20. Re:OMG, who cares? by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    Yes because apple is totally secure

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  21. OVER BLOWN by fluffernutter · · Score: 0

    Being so scared you are going to be hacked that you have to spend 2x on your device is quite a burden. How many actual Android phone/tablet attacks have there been in the wild?

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    1. Re: OVER BLOWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Strawman it up. Better security is just one of the benefits of the iPad. Thereâ(TM)s also: longer useful lifespan, better apps, better build quality, more and better third party support...

    2. Re: OVER BLOWN by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      Microsoft get so much shit about the security flaws in Windows and yet they support their software for 10 years or more. Suggesting that you might want Android updates for more than 18 months and the fanboys act like you're insane.

  22. Will never happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every time apple comes close to folding, MS bails them out.

    MS needs them, they provide the illusion of competition.

    1. Re: Will never happen by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      Party like it's 1999 dude!

  23. Other options for men ... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    The 7.9-inch option will, barring screen size, match the Air on specs.

    And there's also a 7.9" model for men that's labeled 10.5" ...

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  24. Re:OMG, who cares? by gtall · · Score: 1

    Wow, did you think that up all by yourself? I'll bet you feel better now...try the little pink pills next time.

  25. Product line COOK'd by ElitistWhiner · · Score: 1

    Dunno if handheld computing is front and center at Apple any longer.

    Visited Apple Store and couldn't visibly see that Apple's line of iPads has advanced. Every one of the iPads looks like they did 4 years ago. Except now a 12" iPad looks small. WTF?

    No where was an iPad Mini on display.

    Effectively, Tim Cook has obfuscated consumer's ability to compare, contrast and plot a roadmap forward with handheld desktop portables and desktop portables .vs. wired desktop computing.

    -r

     

    1. Re: Product line COOK'd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What did you expect them to look like?

    2. Re:Product line COOK'd by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      There's a reason there's a Genius there to help you. There's no need for you to compare anything, just walk in, and the Genius will tell you what you have to buy and you're set!

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  26. But no stereo sound on iPad Mini by guacamole · · Score: 1

    The iPad Mini does not have stereo sound in landscape mode, which makes it crap for video streaming apps. All the sound is firing from the left or right of the screen. What a waste. One of the reasons I am sticking with Android tablets because almost all of them support stereo sound in landscape mode.

    Heck, I even would access a MONO sound if the speaker was placed in the center of the screen, but the way Apple iPad/Mini does it is just stupid.