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A Eulogy For Every Product Google Has Ruthlessly Killed (145 and Counting) (fastcompany.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Tez. Trendalyzer. Panoramio. Timeful. Bump! SlickLogin. BufferBox. The names sound like a mix of mid-2000s blogs and startups you'd see onstage at TechCrunch Disrupt!. In fact, they are just some of the many, many products that Google has acquired or created -- then killed.

While Google is notorious for eliminating underperforming products -- because even though these products often don't cost much for ongoing operations, they can pose a serious legal liability for the company -- it's rare to hear them spoken of after they've been shuttered. In fact, Killed By Google is the first website to memorialize them all in one place. Created by front-end developer Cody Ogden, the site features a tombstone and epitaph for each product the company has killed since it originated.

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  1. Who cares about fucking products by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I weep for the most important thing Google has killed with them: the right to privacy and anonymity.

    As for the products, they *have* to keep only the best ones: they're the trojan horses into people's lives. The products have to be so compelling that everybody feels they can't do without them, even at the cost of feeding Google their most intimate details. Excellent products are the keystone of their business model: no good products, no data.

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    1. Re:Who cares about fucking products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Dude, we couldn't agree more. This is Google. The company that puts a microphone in your thermostat and wants to know where you are going so much that they are willing to invent a driverless car to take you there.

    2. Re:Who cares about fucking products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      YES!!! I was just going to post the same thing. Google may as well be a division of the NSA and CIA. Untrustworthy and suspect in any offering they give up for "free."

    3. Re:Who cares about fucking products by SirAstral · · Score: 1

      Indeed, this is why I advocate for single product ownership. It is much harder for Google to aggregate personal data when they don't also own all the downstream products. But I don't think people are getting the connection with that. If a business gets to own so much stuff at once, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have any privacy because they know so much about the rest of you that you cannot keep anything a secret. People are going to be so disappointed thinking that government is going to save them... government wants all of that data too! If the collection of it is stopped, they won't get either. Instead they are going to let the collection of the data continue, but instead reword it like the GDPR so that businesses cannot monetize it so easily, but still allow it to be collected so government can still use it. Things like the GDPR are not pro-privacy, it's just privacy theater just like the TSA at checkpoints being security theater. People are just going to have to get used to being spied on now... because we just cannot seem to do anything other than sabotage ourselves in outrage for things that have happened.

    4. Re:Who cares about fucking products by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      I'm not convinced there is such a right, or that if there is, if you haven't voluntarily traded it away the minute you search on Google or use Chrome. The only evil that Google committed is not making that even more obvious (I would have said it's been obvious since nearly the beginning).

      You need do neither of those things.

      Like a lot of conveniences, there is a cost, it's just hidden from view. Or did people really think Google built their massive networks of data centers (on which they spend $5bn per quarter) on sheer altruism? Really?

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    5. Re:Who cares about fucking products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Google may as well be a division of the NSA and CIA.

      You make it sound like they aren't. The CIA helped create Google.

    6. Re:Who cares about fucking products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ugh, talk about yellow journalism. In many ways.

  2. Fail Fast by moehoward · · Score: 2

    I do like that they put things out there. They are too slow to remove the ones that don't work. I do think that they can do a better job of doing the old-school beta approach. I loved Inbox. Having to move back to Gmail in the past couple of months has been frustrating.

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    1. Re:Fail Fast by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They are too slow to remove the ones that don't work.

      I disagree: I think them ruthlessly killing off "unpopular" products is actually harming adoption in general. I don't bother trying new google products since I don't want to get used to something when there's a 95% chance it'll disappear soon. I doubt I'm alone in this.

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    2. Re:Fail Fast by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      I do like that they put things out there. They are too slow to remove the ones that don't work. I do think that they can do a better job of doing the old-school beta approach. I loved Inbox. Having to move back to Gmail in the past couple of months has been frustrating.

      Herein lies the rub of Google's method of deploy-and-depreciate, in conjunction with "as little software running on the client machine as possible, with as little data remaining there as practical."

      Microsoft released Windows Home Server 2011 in, well, 2011. It had all the appeal of administering an SBS2008 server, but without AD, IIS, DNS, DHCP, or...pretty much any other role of an actual-server, and only HP released machines for it with a maximum of four HDD bays, and banked on a Windows Media Player lock-in and didn't support iTunes, and it took them forever to release a System Builder version rather than relying on OEM-only distribution, and....and...ultimately was inferior in virtually every way to FreeNAS or UnRAID or a dozen other software titles for actual-enthusiasts, and its few strengths were only realized if you had a *full* MS stack at home - WMP, WMC, Xbox, Live OneCare, Windows Vista/7...which even then was basically nobody. ...but for the handful of people who had them, they got five years of support, and if they're still running, continue to perform their core functions despite being EoL. People who had them and wanted to move to an alternative platform were able to do so at their own pace, and on their own time, without a deadline looming overhead.

      99 of the 148 products/services/applications on the Killed By Google site were five years old or less when discontinued, and that number is even higher if you count acquired products that Google didn't keep for five years after acquisition. Some of the products which were discontinued were notable for their corporate following; Postini and Urchin were my anecdotally-most-prolific examples.

      2/3 of the things Google has killed over the years got less support than a niche-within-a-niche server release from Microsoft. There are no saints in Redmond, and MS has killed their own projects as well (Microsoft MyPhone and pretty-much-every-music-product-they-tried spring to mind), but the difference is that Google isn't very good with providing a migration path. They generally provide a means to download the raw data in a CSV or whatever, but if that CSV can't be turned back into usable data, even in the case of a paid product without the help of some software developer somewhere writing some custom code, that's not a great means of instilling confidence that the product has a future, or that it's safe to adopt and begin reliance on it.

    3. Re:Fail Fast by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Troll

      To be fair half the stuff on the list was just rolled into other products. Like news and weather is part of Play Newsstand now, and Reply is built in too Gmail.

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    4. Re:Fail Fast by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      To be fair half the stuff on the list was just rolled into other products.

      Yeah I was pretty disappointed by the site when I saw that. Something called a different name hasn't been killed off.

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  3. In otherwords... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't become too dependent on any Google product because they could yank it at any time.

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    1. Re:In otherwords... by bigpat · · Score: 1

      Don't become too dependent on any Google product because they could yank it at any time.

      In other words... which of their competitors paid for the article?

    2. Re:In otherwords... by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Competitor to what? The chief complaint about most of these is that they had no competitor.

    3. Re:In otherwords... by lgw · · Score: 1, Funny

      Don't become too dependent on any Google product because they could yank it at any time.

      Some teams at work want to move their data into to Google cloud. Really? Bob's Roadside Cloud and Bait Shop is more likely to be around in 5 years.

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    4. Re:In otherwords... by Moof123 · · Score: 1

      +1. The low attention span Google has makes me dismissive of just about anything they release no matter how good it sounds or operates.

    5. Re:In otherwords... by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Don't become too dependent on any Google product because they could yank it at any time.

      Meh. The important ones stick around. Gmail, docs/drive/whatever-it-is-today ...

      Heck, Gmail has been more persistent than any other email provider I ever had.

      No, don't get too dependent on any external service, but still, we may as well be realistic about the alternatives.

    6. Re:In otherwords... by BringsApples · · Score: 1

      I wonder how much usage plays into their decision to pull a project. After all, Google+ was around for waaay longer than it seems it should have. For all I know it's still around.

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    7. Re:In otherwords... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google is a promotion driven company. To keep working there you have to keep getting promoted.
      If you're a T4 or below and don't receive a promotion within 2 years they usually will just can you and show you the door.

      The end result is a lot of engineers taking insane risks, shoving some crapware out of the door, do a little song and dance and then GTFO and find another team ASAP. Their legacy datacenter network stack has zero devs assigned to it. They actually called a bunch of junior devs into a room to tell them "hey guys, how would you like to work on this old code?"...in truth no-one knew how that code worked. The only reason they assigned people at all was to put a checkmark next to "we have devs on it". They wouldn't have stood a chance anyway since the hardware testing department had no devs assigned, they all quit for other teams.

      No-one maintains code in Google - to do so is career suicide. They literally are just throwing shit against the wall to see how much sticks.

    8. Re: In otherwords... by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

      If they had no competition for these products, then what does that say about the market and the ability to monetise on the concept?

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    9. Re: In otherwords... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen this a lot over the years, there's no competition because there was one product that rose to prominence under an unsustainable model that was subsequently shuttered. I remember I Love Sandy years ago and it was the best AI assistant out there, but then it got shut down unexpectedly with no option being given to pay for it.

      I haven't checked recently, but last I checked there were no other options. I'm guessing part of the problem there is that iwantsandy was the best and then people got so pissed off over it being discontinued that it pretty much ruined any trust folks had in that type of a product.

      But, either way, we don't really know if it would have been marketable because nobody tried. It was just a product put out there to get the developer a job and once he had the job, it was more or less fuck you to all the supporters.

      And, this is a relatively common model, somebody will build something cool, fail to develop a sustainable business model then a bigger company will buy it for the talent, and shut down the service with no alternative being available. In many cases, there may even be patents that prevent other services from replacing it.

    10. Re:In otherwords... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not a low attention span, it's that Google has basically no plans except in a couple of narrowly defined areas that are strictly tied to their ad business.

      The products they do launch, are typically woefully inadequate, buggy and missing features that normal people would use. For example, Google Maps still does not provide functionality for setting waypoints. You can sort of hack it in, but you're stuck fiddling with your phone everytime you hit one of the intermediary points. And the import/export for those routes doesn't work very well. It should be mandatory for the import/export to work if you're not going to provide a properly functioning route editors.

    11. Re:In otherwords... by Voyager529 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Don't become too dependent on any Google product because they could yank it at any time.

      Heck, Gmail has been more persistent than any other email provider I ever had.

      AOL, Yahoo, Excite, Erols, Earthlink, and email.com are still running. Prodigy is defunct now, but it was around for 27 years so Gmail can take their crown in 2031.

      If we're allowed to count hosting providers, 1and1, GoDaddy, Hostgator, Bluehost, InMotion, and Verio all still exist, and have all offered e-mail longer than Google has.

      If universities count, MIT is where e-mail started in the 1960's, and to this day if you were a student there, you can keep your MIT e-mail address for life. Many universities have similar policies. ...so if your e-mail host didn't outlast Gmail, there were plenty that didn't. They've still got a decade to go before they start turning heads for longetivity, though.

    12. Re: In otherwords... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      If they had no competition for these products, then what does that say about the market and the ability to monetise on the concept?

      That people don't actually want it? That is entirely the point of Google's free developer time that promoted "brainstorm" style see what sticks ideas. It was only natural that this would result in a lot of failed products / services.

  4. Acquisition is about 2 things by SirAstral · · Score: 0

    #1. Increasing your own product line.
    #2. Removing competition.

    Both in the vast majority of cases becomes a negative to a free market because it foments monopoly. The more increased a product line is the more lock in you wind up getting into, even though increasing product line is "usually" beneficial. And with the removal of competition... well that is easy enough on its own.

    Monopolies are not free-market, monopolies are products of lazy citizens that refuse to perform the "self-policing" that they often ignorantly attribute to "large corporations", yes large corporations advance this fallacy as well, and why when I hear people say it I just tell them that they are actually playing into the hands of big businesses. Sometimes monopolies are directly created by the very regulations that people put in to stop them... FCC is a great example of this.

    I would propose that we ask for a "regulation" that prevents any one person or business from owning more than 1 product. If you are a search engine... that is all you get to be. If you make operating systems... you are not allowed to make hardware. If you make gaming systems... you don't get to make games. If you are a content provider... you don't get to own content! The only exception should be if they are first to market with the idea or concept they get a 10 year exception. For example, the first person to invent movies can also invent the tools to make, distribute, or show them. But after 10 years, they no longer get to exclusively make movies or the tools to make movies, or control their distribution, or control how they are shown.

    There is way too much conflict of interest and today's regulations are all about controlling things the wrong way and the "regulate all the things" folks just are not understanding that... leading to just exactly this problem right fucking here!

    Killed by Google!

    1. Re:Acquisition is about 2 things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #1 is "Once you have their money you never give it back."

      You sir are a shit Ferengi.

    2. Re:Acquisition is about 2 things by SirAstral · · Score: 1

      lol... yea that is true, People are already wanting to throw me off the Tower of Commerce for it!

      I need someone to rub my lobes before they toss me!

    3. Re:Acquisition is about 2 things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your proposed one business = one product regulations would be circumnavigated by corporate structures so quickly it would be like they didn't exist in the first place. There'd be "strategic business partnerships" developed between corporate entities at a seemingly alarming rate until, in truth, we're right back to the same situation we're in now, just with a few more labels on the corporate structures.

    4. Re:Acquisition is about 2 things by SirAstral · · Score: 1

      lol, no, its one business one product that would naturally mean another business cannot own another business... buy that virtue umbrella corporations would be destroyed and impossible to build. It would also prevent shell corporations and the like as well.

      Regarding your other totally legit argument about "partnerships"... those can be addressed with anti-trust laws, but realistically, if there are no large players, it really makes it potentially bad for business for a company to make these kinds of deals because it will marry their success to another businesses success. So yea, Strong Anti-Monopoly and Anti-Trust laws would go far to help keep the market free as possible rather than the over-regulation we have right now helping to ensure businesses stay entrenched through the revolving regulatory door between government and business for quick pay purchase of beneficial regulations and laws.

  5. Let's not forget ones they lobotomized, too by thatseattleguy · · Score: 2

    Some former Google products haven't been killed, per se, but have been dumbed-down so badly that just killing them might have been a more merciful end.

    (Yes, I'm looking at you, the poor maimed shell of the thing formerly known as Google Finance: http://sneakyfalcon.com/the-ne... ).

  6. Not really a problem by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1. You get what you pay for. The entire point of each service is to see if they can monetize it. When the monetization fails to cover the expense of providing the service then they cut their losses. If you fail to recognize that you are the product when it comes to free web services then you're going to have a bad time.

    2. Services, like everything on the web, are short-lived. So if you haven't recognized that "the cloud" is composed of computers you don't own and if you don't mirror your data elsewhere then you're going to have a bad time.

    3. FOSS never dies. If you get a FOSS computer program that (doesn't rely on outside information and) you like then it will never abandon you. It might not be perfect, it's might be unsupported but at no point will someone take it away from you because it's on your computer and it runs on your computer.

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    1. Re:Not really a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      please shut your fucking hole.

      thank you for your time,

      -FishyCunt

    2. Re:Not really a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can we let the "You get what you pay for" meme die already?

      I hear this all the time at work. "You get what you pay for." People use it to poo-poo the free/open source software others want to use at work. "Oh, we can't use __ because it's free, and You get what you pay for. We should go spend $$$$ on ___ a vendor."

      But you weren't really trying to say You get what you pay for. Instead, you were saying "Beware when you are the product." Please use that.

    3. Re:Not really a problem by kenai_alpenglow · · Score: 1

      FOSS can indeed die. If not updated, it could conceivably not run on newer machines. Now it will still run on your existing machine, but what about when you have to upgrade (if nothing else, the existing machine dies)? But I understand your point and it is valid. *Somebody* can't take it away; it just might die a natural death. And will likely outlive the Microsoft/Google/etc equivalent.

  7. Left one out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nik Software Suite, a great set of pro photography plugins for Photoshop. Google bought the company, harvested some of the IP into their crappy mobile apps, then did absolutely nothing with the main software. Ended up giving it away for free, then sold it to DXO who started charging for it again despite adding squat then went into bankruptcy. So much potential wasted.

  8. I was curious what products are still around by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

    http://https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products/Did not know of all of these, recognize some of them. But the list is defiantly shorter than what they have killed.

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    1. Re:I was curious what products are still around by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      But the list is defiantly shorter than what they have killed.

      But whom does it defy?

  9. Leads to user non-investment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When a company like Microsoft or Google are notorious for killing off their products, users learn not to invest themselves in any new product because it is likely to stop functioning in the future. It's actually an industry problem. For anyone to learning something new is a waste of time because you know it's not going to last.

    That is no way to run an industry, but the computer industry has been operated amateurishly for 4 decades, and to this day shows no signs of growing up.

  10. Stupid way to do it by ilsaloving · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google basically throws services at a wall and sees what sticks. No actual plans. No strategy. And they throw it away as soon as it stops sticking, even if it's been around a while.

    To me, this means one very simple thing: Don't use anything by google that doesn't already have a massive following cause you may find the rug pulled out from under you at any moment.

    Apart from Android, AdSense and maps, there's really nothing Google makes that I would trust to depend on as a critical service.

    1. Re:Stupid way to do it by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Yeah very stupid. If they want to survive in this digital ag... *whisper* what? ... hold up... $40 billion? ... just last quarter? ... ...

      Scratch that. I have no comment about how stupid this tactic is for google.

    2. Re:Stupid way to do it by lgw · · Score: 1

      Google hasn't made money off of this approach, is the thing.

      The only products created after Google's early days with any real succes are Android and Chrome. Neither was their normal "lets try everything with no strategy" strategy. Both were strategic defensive plays for their core business.

      They've wasted so much money and talent on this "try everything and see what sticks" approach, and gotten nothing for it.

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    3. Re:Stupid way to do it by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      To me, this means one very simple thing: Don't use anything by google that doesn't already have a massive following cause you may find the rug pulled out from under you at any moment.

      A lot of products have massive followings. Google Reader was a popular RSS thing, and Google Wave was oddly huge in Brazil.

      Google can just axe what you're using one day and that's it.

    4. Re:Stupid way to do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The lions share of Google revenue comes from a single service - Ads. Just about everything else is a loss leader or a cost of business.
      Every other division is praying for the new golden egg.

      Loss leaders are generally a bad thing because they distort economics. A company that can't make a product work typically goes out of business and serves as a warning to others. Google makes so much money from a single source that they can flood the market with junk for decades. The end result is that they'll put a lot of other viable businesses out of business by undercutting them. Well duh...their product is "free" because they don't need to make money.

    5. Re:Stupid way to do it by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      Think how much money google would have if they sold products they decide aren't popular enough, instead of killing them. I'm sure there'd have been plenty of buyout offers for most of them.

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    6. Re:Stupid way to do it by samwichse · · Score: 1

      It may not be as popular as GMail, but Hangouts has an absolutely massive user base.

      They're killing it with no direct replacement in a year or so.

      So even lots of users won't save you if Google doesn't feel they can monetize it.

  11. Google Reader by stevegee58 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm especially bitter about the loss of Google Reader, the RSS news feed aggregator. I got by with so-so replacements for a few years and finally rolled my own with FreshRSS on my home server.

    1. Re:Google Reader by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      I'm especially bitter about the loss of Google Reader, the RSS news feed aggregator. I got by with so-so replacements for a few years and finally rolled my own with FreshRSS on my home server.

      That one I miss. Reader was nice. And I just can't be bothered to roll my own.

    2. Re:Google Reader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FreshRSS is easy and great. I don't miss Google Reader at all.

    3. Re:Google Reader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much were you paying for Google Reader?

    4. Re:Google Reader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Newsblur (https://www.newsblur.com/) is a worthy replacement, IMHO

    5. Re:Google Reader by Solandri · · Score: 1

      That's one of the problems I see with Google's approach. Instead of looking at how well a product solves a particular problem, they only look at how widely used a product is. It spells almost-certain doom for niche products like Reader, even if they're a great tool. I loved Hangouts because it solved two very specific messaging problems - (1) integration of text, voice, and video chat and conferencing, and (2) synchronized messaging across multiple devices (so you can do all these things on your phone, tablet, or PC). But those things aren't very important to most people. And as a text messaging app it was rather meh, so they killed it.

    6. Re:Google Reader by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Yep, only one I miss. I should go to FreshRSS on my own server, but I settled for G2Reader. Buggy but low-effort on my end.

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    7. Re:Google Reader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Picasa is the tool I miss. A simple photo editor/organizer that was kept up to date able to read all the various RAW formats that the camera manufacturers like to invent.

    8. Re:Google Reader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been using InoReader for a few years now. Been paying for it for a couple as well. I think it's better than Google Reader at this point. Being able to dump facebook pages and tweets into an RSS feed actually makes social media worth keeping an eye on.

    9. Re:Google Reader by digitect · · Score: 1

      Feedly is a great, free replacement. That's what I moved to way back then and still read SlashDot and hundreds of other sources on it daily.

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  12. And Microsoft list would be how long? by hierofalcon · · Score: 1

    While I do wish that Google didn't abandon/kill off so many things, how long would the list at Microsoft be of products that have been either purchased or developed in house and then killed or had their functionality for the rest of the world destroyed?

    Then how many products that worked fine in version X of Windows are now broken due to lack of backward compatibility?

    Then you could do the same thing with Linux or Apple or any other big company or group.

    Blaming only Google for this annoying behavior seems a bit much.

    1. Re:And Microsoft list would be how long? by lgw · · Score: 4, Informative

      how long would the list at Microsoft be of products that have been either purchased or developed in house and then killed or had their functionality for the rest of the world destroyed?

      Microsoft keeps shit around for a long time, actually. You might not like their version of something they acquired, but the broad market generally does. MS's crime was taking products that nerds liked, and turning into products that normies liked. Bastards.

      Then how many products that worked fine in version X of Windows are now broken due to lack of backward compatibility?

      They've always had the best backwards compatibility of any OS. Windows 7 is still supported for another year, making it 11 years of support. Anything in C/C++ that actually followed the advice in the API docs never broke with a new OS version, until 64-bit OSs stopped running 16-bit apps (by which time GOG had almost every 16-bit app I actually cared about). Most software that got clever using APIs in unsupported ways will work if you pick the right OS version in the emulation dropdown. C# software just keeps chugging along, for better or worse.

      That just isn't a fair complaint about MS.

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    2. Re:And Microsoft list would be how long? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      They've always had the best backwards compatibility of any OS.

      No they've always had the best backwards compatibility of any OS you've used. But you've not used OS/390.

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    3. Re:And Microsoft list would be how long? by lgw · · Score: 1

      You assume ... wrong. But I forgot about the mainframe stuff.

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  13. Boeing Eulogy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about a eulogy for all the people Boeing killed by not including a light to indicate when their "safety features" were malfunctioning as standard equipment?

    1. Re:Boeing Eulogy by freak0fnature · · Score: 1

      How about the fact that for several flights prior they had problems and kept the plane in service. "We can just flip this switch and she'll fly fine..." "Did anyone tell the pilots of the next flight?"

    2. Re:Boeing Eulogy by kenai_alpenglow · · Score: 1

      How about moving that to the appropriate topic? Besides, this topic is about services google killed, not services google failed to add.

  14. Don't be evil. by bigpat · · Score: 2

    I think the great thing about Google has been that they have been the only company to actually tell people how and in what ways people have traded their privacy for convenience.

    Look at Verizon. They sold all your phone records (and presumably your internet records) to the government without even telling you. Oh and they made sure to lobby Congress to exempt them from privacy laws and agreements so they couldn't even effectively be sued by the customers they screwed over.

    Looks like most of the telecoms did the same, probably. Hard to tell because of how unopen they are about it. Google early on decided to be very transparent about how much data they are collecting and what they are doing with it. And they have paid a PR price, somewhat undeservedly so. Apple I think has been a bit better about it because they do collect a lot of data about people, but have made clear they are not really in that business.

    Be a bit more suspicious of Google as they are now too big to avoid being evil, but be a lot more suspicious about all the other companies you do business with and how much they are just selling everything they know about you to the highest and the lowest bidder alike.

    And of course: https://duckduckgo.com/

    1. Re:Don't be evil. by SirAstral · · Score: 2

      "Look at Verizon. They sold all your phone records (and presumably your internet records) to the government without even telling you. Oh and they made sure to lobby Congress to exempt them from privacy laws and agreements so they couldn't even effectively be sued by the customers they screwed over."

      You do understand that this looks bad for your government... not Verizon right? You are definitely blaming the wrong group here. The relationships between telco and government is a long and twisting one and Verizon was just wanting to protect itself from folks like you that cannot figure out who the real villain is and goes after the innocent. Governments have been backdooring your privacy through big business for a long time now, especially under the guise of "national security".

    2. Re:Don't be evil. by alvinrod · · Score: 2

      No, this looks bad for both of them. Just because I'm disgusted by the type of person who would buy and view child pornography doesn't mean that I cannot also be disgusted at the people who supplied it as well.

    3. Re:Don't be evil. by SirAstral · · Score: 1

      You are wrong and here is why.

      Verizon is mostly doing what they are told, its not like you are going to do anything to change it are you? It is only natural they are going to want immunity. Would you be okay with being required to give the government unfettered access to your data, be required to do so AND have no immunity from that collection?

      I am totally okay with you being disgusted by it, I am as well, but it does little good when the wrong group is being blamed. It's like blaming a person being blackmailed to kill someone or their own family dies. I won't blame them for being in a crappy position, I am going to blame the folks that put them in the situation.

      That being said, there are more than enough of other things Verizon can be blamed for, but not realistically this one.

    4. Re: Don't be evil. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Verizon was in a position to stand up and say it could not be compelled under the Constitution to divulge its records without a warrant... instead they asked for hush money and a blanket get out of jail card.

    5. Re: Don't be evil. by SirAstral · · Score: 3, Insightful

      do you seriously think that matters? In fact do you even think that would have worked? Not even a chance, and you know better.

      Between both sides wiping their asses with the constitution and trying to cook it for their mid day meal there is exactly no chance a business is going to win that scenario. It is well known that the game is not played that way. Very few companies have the conviction lavabit does. By the way, do you have a lavabit email account? If you are not putting your money where your mouth is, perhaps you should not say much about this.

      There is a reason governments do not let a terrible situation go to waste, all tyranny comes from this, it's even a quote from a founding father of the USA.

      "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. It is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad."

      ~Madison

      It should read...
      If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. It is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or pretended, -HERE OR- from abroad.

  15. No surprise. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    This was a company that once gave employees 20% free time to work on whatever the heck they want and then attempted to monetise the result. This is the natural response to such a strategy. Yeah it may piss off a lot of people who use these products but you can't argue with $40bn / quarter as being a losing strategy.

  16. This leaves out dramatic changes by AvitarX · · Score: 1

    For example, I can barely use my Google Voice number.

    It migrated to hangouts, but hangouts seems to be a dead app that crashes on my phones now (I get a notification, but can't use it on two phones).

    Is there still Google Voice? is it part of Hangouts? Was it wrapped into Google+ and that's why it died?

    I really can't tell, and don't have the patience to figure out how since I mostly use it through my email at work anyway.

    They also really need to add the find same photo from Picassa desktop app to the photos website. It's terribly annoying to know they have the tech from image search and don't let me use it.

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    1. Re:This leaves out dramatic changes by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      It migrated to hangouts, but hangouts seems to be a dead app that crashes on my phones now (I get a notification, but can't use it on two phones).

      Still "works" on my Moto E2. It doesn't work that well, though. It drops most of my calls in mid-sentence.

      Is there still Google Voice? is it part of Hangouts? Was it wrapped into Google+ and that's why it died?

      Maybe try installing the Voice app and see? It still exists, and it seems to work OK. For some reason you can't use both Voice and Hangouts to do SMS though. I never did understand that. Still don't.

      They also really need to add the find same photo from Picassa desktop app to the photos website. It's terribly annoying to know they have the tech from image search and don't let me use it.

      Tried Googles or Lens on your phone?

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    2. Re:This leaves out dramatic changes by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Google Voice is still there, still has its own app and website, etc. Hangout provides you with access to Google Voice, but it was never a replacement for it in the same way as it replaced, say, Google Talk.

      At one point Google encouraged people to use Hangouts to access Google Voice, in part because they wanted to create one app you could access everything from (SMS, Google Talk, and Google Voice), and in part because they hadn't maintained Google Voice's native app for a long time and it always was shitty.

      But it's not the same thing, Google hasn't killed Google Voice.

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    3. Re:This leaves out dramatic changes by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

      Google voice is still around, I still use it daily. It was doing some really strange things the other day, but I had just changed my password for that specific account.

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    4. Re:This leaves out dramatic changes by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I was unaware of that.

      It worked so well in hangouts for so long I thought they pushed me over from a death of voice.

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    5. Re:This leaves out dramatic changes by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I don't want to be able to search for things based on my photos (like lens).

      I want to be able to find duplicates of the same image in my account.

      Example:
      My moto migrate copied all photos from phone A to phone B but updated the created date.

      It then puts them into my google photos account, all of them at that day, but also they exist when I took them. I then smashed that phone's screen and the same thing happened, but on a different date.

      I'd like to be able to go into a dedupe mode, and go through and keep only the oldest full size copy for each image.

      The desktop app made this really easy. The picassa website lacked it, and when it switched to photos it's still lacking.

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  17. Its the Products ... And More by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google not only kills the products, they consistently eviscerate the work flow, logic and configuration interfaces, such that it's a major time suck for administration. I don't mean visiting an application once every 6 months, I mean having to reacquaint with configurations and feature usability consistently after revisiting the application after a few days.

    It's more than an inconvenient hassle on a random basis - it's continual. If you are having to use Google applications for any client projects - and you typically use a few at any given time for any single client - this is a drain of time/ effort both for the admin, the customer and potentially Google support. It sucks everybody's time.

  18. Nothing to see here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $ curl https://killedbygoogle.com/
    <!DOCTYPE html>
    <html lang="en">
    <head>
        <title>Killed by Google - The Google Graveyard & Cemetery</title>
        ... 21 <meta> tags ...
    </head>
    <body>
        <div id="killedbygoogle"></div>
        <script src="main.js"></script>
    </body>
    </html>

    $ curl -v  https://killedbygoogle.com/main.js
    ...
    < content-length: 120768
    ...

    Dear God, no.

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  19. The ones I miss and don’t miss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    First of all, it would be nice if Slashdot linked to the actual web page instead of to an ad-infested article.

    Looking over the list, the one I miss the most is iGoogle; this allowed one to have a home page with news from other pages all grouped together. Many people miss Google Reader, an RSS client, but the glory days of RSS are long gone.

    Google Chrome Frame is no longer needed; it was a product for an era when a web designer's job was 90% making their web page look decent in Internet Explorer and 10% actual web design. "Google Flu Trends" and "Google Flu Vaccine Finder" were created during the 2008-2009 flu panic (I remember entire malls being closed down in Mexico).

    The others show that success in business is having a few hits and a lot of misses.

    1. Re:The ones I miss and don’t miss by stevegee58 · · Score: 1

      I don't know about "glory days" since I still find RSS very useful especially through sites like Feedly or DIY alternatives like FreshRSS

    2. Re:The ones I miss and don’t miss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would like to see FreshRSS added to the Wikipedia list of Feed Aggregators (it's easier to avoid the deletionists when adding something to an existing article instead of trying to make a stand alone article).

    3. Re: The ones I miss and don’t miss by astrofurter · · Score: 1

      I miss Aardvark. It was magnificently useful.

      Tho I kinda suspect - based on Aardvark's former userbase - that Google didn't so much shut it down, but rather sold it to Uncle Sam for private use.

  20. Moving away from the internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm just moving away from the internet altogether. I'll use Wikipedia and slashdot and that's about it, spending less and less time on the internet and feeling better for it. I did post under my actual name and picture but only false things that constantly conflict with previous posts. I guess I'll see what happens with that.

    1. Re: Moving away from the internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus Christ dude, way to pick only the two most useless sites on the internet.

    2. Re:Moving away from the internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll use Wikipedia and slashdot and that's about it, spending less and less time on the internet and feeling better for it.

      No one will miss you M'Smash. Hell, we won't even notice when you're gone.

  21. Missed the subsidiary liability entirely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Common business practice is to form a distinct corporation for each of the products to limit liability for the product to just that subsidiary and not the parent Alphabet company.

    Why do you think google split itself into a parent company Alphabet and Google? To limit liability from one part to the other.

  22. Here's a question by H3lldr0p · · Score: 1

    If they're so intent on finding money in everything, why not start charging people for a version of it?

    Seriously. Google is big enough, does enough business, has other things they charge for, why not have converted some of these to a paid service? Sure it sucks going from gratis to not-gratis, but if the alternative is to not have the service at all, then I would think a non-trivial number of people would pay for it. AFAIK, nothing in the law would keep them from continuing to make a product of those now paying for it if the concern of it not bringing in that thread of income on top of being paid.

    Google is weird and has weird priorities.

    1. Re:Here's a question by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2

      If they're so intent on finding money in everything, why not start charging people for a version of it?

      Simple, people won't pay for it. There is a lot of interesting psychology that goes on and at the present, people are unwilling to pay for simple online software based services. The basic problem is that people aren't being paid nearly enough for the jobs they are doing for corporations and are therefore much more conservative in their spending.

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    2. Re:Here's a question by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

      The value is in your data, collecting it is their priority. If not enough people are using a service, or if Google cannot glean enough valuable data from the service, then they will kill it. Monetizing a service means less users and less data, and they are not about to shoot themselves in the foot like that.

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  23. Most of them deserved death by mschuyler · · Score: 2

    Google Flu: You REALLY needed that, right? When you scroll through the list, most of them you've never heard of. For good reason. Most of them were useless or done better by other products

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  24. Google Cemetery by kbahey · · Score: 1

    There is also the Google Cemetery web site.

    While some of these were experimental in nature, and had a small population of users, it is a joke how a large company like Google kills so many products and services, even ones that have substantial number of users.

    Google Reader, Google+, goo.gl URL shortner, Google Wave, Google Code, and on an on an on ...

    How do they feel now that Microsoft owns github, the most used code repository and sharing web site? They could have had a viable competitor.

    1. Re:Google Cemetery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure, if it is intentionally missing "Fusiontables" and "MyMaps", or because their functionality lives on with Drive

  25. no Froogle? by Chissblue · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nice list but think it may be missing a few things like Froogle for instance. It was like a marketplace section you could list your products. Probably early 00's.

  26. How many products has Microsoft Killed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Companies end unsuccessful products. That's nothing new. Microsoft even ends successful products though. There were a LOT of VB6 programmers very unhappy about VB.net, which wasn't really a continuation of Visual Basic, but more of a completely different product with some overlap with VB6. Microsoft also killed Works about 10 years ago, which had a long history.

    How is Google any different?

  27. what's next big target? by 4wdloop · · Score: 1

    Android seems to be next big target? Google Chrome OS following? Both replaced by Fuckya,,,ehem...Fuchsia?

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  28. Google Fiber by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will be on that list soon. It served its purpose, prod the other telcos to roll out faster internet.

    1. Re:Google Fiber by PPH · · Score: 1

      prod the other telcos to roll out faster internet

      In that sense it failed. They just rolled out Ajit Pai.

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  29. #1 - hmmm, yes and no... by gosand · · Score: 1

    1. You get what you pay for. The entire point of each service is to see if they can monetize it. When the monetization fails to cover the expense of providing the service then they cut their losses. If you fail to recognize that you are the product when it comes to free web services then you're going to have a bad time.

    In general - yes, you are right. But this is only true as long as enough people allow it. It doesn't really apply to me as much.
    e.g. I use google maps to check traffic (on my phone) before heading into work. But my location is turned off. I use google maps from my computer, to find something or to check traffic. But I am not logged in with my google account.

    So for those that don't know, google traffic uses google user's location info to be able to give traffic reports. It's really quite great - as long as people are willing to be tracked. I am not, but I am happy to use their service. I pay nothing for it, and for the most part I am not part of that product. But people in general are, whether they know it or not.

    But I get your point, and everyone knows that people are the product for google. But they do put out revolutionary technology. Google maps is the most useful I can think of, google earth is pretty cool. I am sure people have their favorites. I have a hard time saying that being the product is bad simply because people are the product if it is voluntary. Where google is having a hard time staying on the good side is when that information no longer becomes private. Theoretically, if people are willing to trade their information for these features, and they are aware, it could be more bad than good. But it is a REAAAAALY thin line between the two. And to your #3 point... people should be allowed to give up their information, as long as I have the option NOT to do that.

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  30. Sad Day For Inbox by friedmud · · Score: 1

    Since they announced its impending death... I have been searching for a replacement and never found one. I tried dozens of apps and webservices... but none of them did what Inbox could do.

    The best I've settled on right now is using normal GMail with the "Multiple Inboxes" option and really specific queries set up to fill each Inbox. That gives me 5 "Google Inbox" style inboxes... and then everything else just gets jumbled together.

    It works ok - but I assume they'll even remove that option at some point :-(

    Has anyone found a better alternative?

  31. Why I don't trust the new Google game streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Early adopter of many google 'projects' only to be killed and booted off many times over. I have a feeling the games service will be no different unless they partner with some big games publishers.

  32. You are their product by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The day will come when they decide to kill you.

  33. Google sets by dargaud · · Score: 1

    I had a quick look, and Google Sets is missing from that list. It was used to complete lists of things and was more or less integrated into google search afterwards.

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  34. WHY so many underperforming Google products? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    Because Google’s massive kill ratio makes users reluctant to try those products in the first place. Who wants to learn a newly introduced product that might summarily vanish tomorrow?

  35. Let's go ahead and add Stadia to the list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's go ahead and add Stadia to the list. It's only a matter of time.

  36. plain HTML list? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone have a list of the projects that doesn't require javascript to display?

    I find it kind of sad a front end developer is unable to write a simple HTML/CSS page.

  37. Google is like the Fox network by macraig · · Score: 1

    Google does to released software what the Fox TV network did to television programs.

    Firefly, meet your new brother in exile: Inbox.

  38. Of course I can by Voyager529 · · Score: 2

    Google wasn't letting products launch whenever their employees called it 'done'. The level of fanfare to announcements was certainly uneven, but the net result is a bit of an oversimplification since that $40 billion is primarily from ads.

    Postini already had a business model when they were acquired. So did Picasa. So did Orkut. If these weren't money makers, why did they buy them? If they were, why not let them make money? It's entirely possible for Google to have products that are pay-with-money rather than pay-with-privacy, yet they seem allergic to the possibility.

    Yes, they are doing very well if the bottom line is the only line that matters. If that's the case, then 'good will' and 'customer confidence' are not directly reflected in that line, so it's of no surprise when those lines start to suffer.

    1. Re:Of course I can by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Google wasn't letting products launch whenever their employees called it 'done'.

      Didn't say they were. I only said they had a structure which promoted supporting random ideas.

      but the net result is a bit of an oversimplification since that $40 billion is primarily from ads.

      Not really. Their ad sales are primarily driven by the access to people which is massively helped by "monetisation" of these random products. They directly support this profit.

      Postini already had a business model when they were acquired. So did Picasa. So did Orkut. If these weren't money makers, why did they buy them?

      Technology. The misconception is that Google kills something and all traces and work contributed to it disappear. This is actually quite rare. The vast majority of what Google kills they do so because of feature consolidation. What was bought in Postini supported Gmail. What was bought in Picasa evolved into Google Photos and processes were ported to mobile devices while the original user facing software was what was killed. Orkut is a different one, this is just another example of Google's failure to make social networking work. But for most other acquisitions, results of the purchases linger long after a product is announced as killed.

      It's entirely possible for Google to have products that are pay-with-money rather than pay-with-privacy, yet they seem allergic to the possibility.

      $40bn/quarter. Why would you want to mess with a good thing? Feeding and nurturing the cash cow is more productive than sheering the sheep in the next paddock.

      Yes, they are doing very well if the bottom line is the only line that matters.

      Yes. Google is not an altruistic non-profit.

    2. Re:Of course I can by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      They're allergic to support and when people pay with money they want support. When people pay with their personal secrets they don't want support.

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