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Jared & Ivanka: Couple 'Continues To Use' Private Messaging For White House Business, Top Democrat Says (thedailybeast.com)
Freshly Exhumed writes: Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), the chairman of the House Oversight Committee, has revealed that senior White House advisor Jared Kushner's lawyer admitted in December that his client "continues to use" WhatsApp to conduct official White House business. The chairman also said that a lawyer for Ivanka Trump and Mr. Kushner told the committee late last year that they additionally used private email accounts for official White House business in a way that may have violated federal records laws. Mr Kushner's lawyer, Abbe Lowell could not say whether his client used WhatsApp to share classified information. Regardless, Cummings says the communications raise questions about whether Kushner and other officials violated the Presidential Records Act, which requires the president and his staff "take all practical steps to file personal records separately from Presidential records." As for Ivanka's use of a personal email account to conduct official business, her lawyer says she sent the emails before she was briefed on the rules.
If you're not familiar with WhatsApp, here's what you should know about it: "As of January 2019, more than 1.5 billion users in over 180 countries use WhatsApp, created in 2009 as an alternative to text messaging," reports USA Today. "Facebook acquired WhatsApp in 2014 to make a bigger play in the rapidly-growing messaging market, along with its own Messenger platform, which also boasts 1.5 billion users." The service features end-to-end encryption, meaning the sender and recipient are the only ones who can view the messages.
If you're not familiar with WhatsApp, here's what you should know about it: "As of January 2019, more than 1.5 billion users in over 180 countries use WhatsApp, created in 2009 as an alternative to text messaging," reports USA Today. "Facebook acquired WhatsApp in 2014 to make a bigger play in the rapidly-growing messaging market, along with its own Messenger platform, which also boasts 1.5 billion users." The service features end-to-end encryption, meaning the sender and recipient are the only ones who can view the messages.
Hillary is the problem and it is she who should be locked up, for being Hillary Clinton!
The real issue is Hillary Clinton and her emails and the server and Bangazi!
Ans then the emails of the Democrats leeked by Assange!
This is just fake news! how can the libs keep harping on this nonsense!
This is just to stop the wall from being built. All them illegal immagrints are cumming in a raping and pilaging and getting wellfair and free shit! Their selling drugs too! Why my farmasist is a Mexican! I gots my blood pressure medicine filled by a spanish guy so its true! Illegal alians are selling drugs here!
The wall with stop that!!
All these people strung out on opiods made by these compaines. The wall will stop it!!
Make Amerika Grate Again!
Hello, I'm a lifelong libertarian voting republican in certain races since I first reached 18. In 2016, I voted AGAINST Hillary because I believe the democratic party, due to their demographics, will be the first to outlaw the most sacred amendment, Freedom of Speech. I still feel that way.
All that said. Trump and Co needed to go and yesterday. We need to purge the Party before Country folks in the Republican party before they ship the sink with them.
Fuck Pelosi. Fuck Trump. Fuck McConnell. Get the old rotten blood all out.
Use of private messaging and email for government business is not illegal, and only violates federal records laws if those emails and messages are not retained per federal records retention policies, and are not made available upon lawful demand.
This is also why Hillary's email server was not illegal. She retained those emails per the RRP and turned it all over when requested.
I bet that 90% of her busnesses is related to blow jobs.
Look here instead everyone! Here's the real problem!
At least Jared and Ivanka are using an encrypted platform. Hillary, on the other hand...well, he likes to screw taxpayers without protection.
It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead
With Mueller failing to deliver any damage to the President, his haters need new stuff to throw — in the hope, something will stick...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Trump was sent by God to save the Jews, again.
Will you ever grow the fuck up? I'm sure your rant has something to do with the US news but nothing to do with anything here. This story is pretty shallow but is more than 48 hours old on its website. Does that cure your derangement? You need to actually take your medication as directed.
This thread will be a shit-show.
Everything about this administration is such an embarrassing joke.
Starting by the fact that daddy's little girl and his husband are somehow working for the WH, without any qualification whatsoever.
Why isn't she in jail? WHY?
Jared & Ivanka: Couple 'Continues To Use' Private Messaging For White House Business
LOCK THEM UP!!! LOCK THEM UP!! LOCK THEM UP!! LOCK THEM UP!! .....
Everybody is talking as if they know what's in the Mueller Report. They don't. It's in Barr's hands now.
All that article talks about is indictments when we know there are many SEALED indictments. We knew since last year there's an INDIVIDUAL-1 that's obviously the president. And we knew if Trump fired Mueller, the fallout would have been massive.
In short, this article is nothing but spin.
Clinton's lying about her illegal server is not the major crime.
The major crime was setting up an illegal external server to store and give access to US state secret documents - primarily Clinton Foundation donors.
This is why when she, thankfully, lost to Trump, Clinton Foundation 'donations' suddenly stopped. Donors no longer had the incredibly lucrative US top secret documents Clinton had been illegally removing from the US intelligence security systems.
Actually, the only news referring to,"damage to the President" is that there were no more indictments recommended by Mueller. It is entirely possible that his legal advice is that a sitting President cannot be indicted so he is leaving it up to Congress (Or something. Not an American). It is also possible that there is evidence in the report but not clear enough to indict leaving the entire situation pretty much the same. You should probably wait until the report comes out in full, if it ever does.
I reserve the write to mangle english.
Are Jared and Ivanka storing US state secrets on illegal external servers outside the control of the US intelligence agencies?
Nope.
Then they are not committing the serious crimes Clinton was allowed to escape prosecution for.
> Using private email for public business isn't illegal.
Yes
> Deleting important emails like Hillary did is what's illegal.
The emails were under a preservation order from a Congressional subpoena/investigation.
The addition crimes by Clinton were:
* Removing top or other types of US government secret data/communications from the secured US intelligence security network(s).
* Selling/providing access to those same documents to third parties - ie. Clinton Foundation donors
Beyond Clinton's major crimes, the damage to United States security is immense. In Clinton's attempts to circumvent US intelligence safeguards for top secret information, her illegal server was completely unsecured and is known to have been hacked by various enemies of the US and the top secret information stolen.
High five Hillary! You fucked your country for hundreds in millions dollars to your sham foundation.
So are all conversations they have person to person also part of the public record? There should be some kind of difference between internal conversations of members of the same team (where hey, at some point, you will have a beer together) and official business between organizations or even countries where decisions are being made.
Washington Post...LOL!
So before she took the office and was told the rules, she had NEVER ONCE known what Hllary had been accused of, nor what her fathers' chanting to his braindead adoring mini horde of "LOCK HER UP!" was about, huh?
BOLLOCKS.
BIG SWEATY HAIRY DRIPPING BOLLOCKS.
You're full of shit, Ivanka. And your dad's mushroom.
No one believes you anymore.
Where are the trump emails. Where are the trump birth certificates. Where is the record of MElania's obedience for the terms of her visa?
For every one of your accusations, you are ignoring deliberately 400 of your sides' own violations that are worse.
They have deleted thousands of their emails. AFTER the court ordeded those emails handed over.
What's that? Silence? Deflection to Democrats? AVoidance of your sides 100x worse atrocities? So very republican of you.
LOL, 2017
Hey dummy! How about posting some Rachel Maddow clips or some Louise Mensch tweets next...
Other people in the government or military have been convicted of similar security crimes.
They didn't have a corrupt Attorney General to keep them from being prosecuted like Clinton had with Loretta Lynch.
When they deleted emails that the court had specifically ordered handed over. That you ignore your side doing it and just wind back far enough to claim that the other side started it shows how little your clams to reality match it.
Remember when he was caught trying to set up a secret communications channel with the Kremlin and every Republican was like "meh"?
....then they have nothing to hide
Clinton's lying about her illegal server is not the major crime.
The major crime was setting up an illegal external server to store and give access to US state secret documents - primarily Clinton Foundation donors.
This is why when she, thankfully, lost to Trump, Clinton Foundation 'donations' suddenly stopped. Donors no longer had the incredibly lucrative US top secret documents Clinton had been illegally removing from the US intelligence security systems.
That's complete horseshit. Where do you fucking people get that shit?! And to actually believe it? Or are you one of the liars who are spreading such horseshit for your own twisted amusement?
Our country is divided and fucked up because of assholes like you spreading lies and misinformation. Are some Russian motherfucker trying to instill discord?
ls /var/lock
She is just trying to get ahead.
There were no emails that the court requested being deleted. So, wrong.
Mind you, that DID happen with Shrub and Dick. Didn't hear you bleat on about it at the time, and you're still ignoring it today!
Shitstain
I know, I know I've let you down
I've been a fool to myself
I thought that I could
live for no one else
But now through all the hurt and pain
Its time for me to respect
the ones you love
mean more than anything.
So with sadness in my heart
I feel the best thing I could do
is end it all
and leave forever
whats done is done, it feels so bad
what once was happy now is sad
I'll never love again
my world is ending
I wish that I could turn back time
'cause now the guilt is all mine
can't live without the trust from those you love.
I know we can't forget the past
you can't forget love and pride
because of that it's killing me inside
It all returns to nothing, it all comes
tumbling down, tumbling down,
tumbling down,
it all returns to nothing, I just keep
letting me down, letting me down,
letting me down,
in my heart of hearts,
I know that I could never love again
I've lost everything
everything, everything
that matters to me,
matters in this world
I wish that I could turn back time
'cause now all the guilt is mine
can't live without
the trust from those you love
I know we can't forget the past
we can't forget love and pride
because of that, its killing me inside
It all returns to nothing, it all comes
tumbling down, tumbling down,
tumbling down
it all returns to nothing, I just keep
letting me down, letting me down,
letting me down
It all returns to nothing, it all comes
tumbling down, tumbling down,
tumbling down
it all returns to nothing, I just keep
letting me down, letting me down,
letting me down
Stop lying. Everything was investigated by a Republican Congress and it was found that she did nothing wrong.
I don't respond to AC's.
"Lock'em up"
There's so little to reality in your post and so much gish galloping, I'll just leave it at horseshit. You don't care and I know you don't, so complete rebuttal is meaningless.
You're talking horseshit.
If you look beyond the obvious partisan memes that continue to be spouted here, there are a couple of much more significant, underlying concerns.
/. readers have a technical background and are familiar with the concept of designing systems with redundancy, reliability and independent controls [to ensure effectiveness]. None of these concepts are beyond us - certainly not beyond an institution with the budget of the federal government.
1. Why have officially mandated guidelines for all those serving in government - including post-holders, employees and advisors - not been tightened? If the concerns raised by the "Clinton Email Server" were as serious as the talking heads would have us believe, then when the Republicans came to power in 2016, why was the first new legislation on the slate not a comprehensive review of "conduct in public office", with permissible and impermissible activities more clearly defined?
3. Why is it acceptable for "dark money" to be given to aid political campaigns, with voters having no visibility of sources and therefore no way of knowing if decisions and votes being cast by elected representatives are given based on representing their electorate or based on the requirements of those special interests?
One way to look at this is as a customer - you a buying a service from the federal government by virtue of the taxes you pay.
In order to be able to look at this objectively, we need to cast aside the specifics of Hilary's email server or Kushner's use of Whatsapp, or Jrvanka's access to Top Secret information through clearances that raised strenuous objections from every agency involved... Instead we have to look at this from th eperspective of imagining a worst-case scenario: that the republic is under direct attack from hostile foreign actors, corrupt insiders and mendacious corporations and make sure that the framework in which government operates is designed from the get-go to safeguard *us* from abuses of that system.
Many
In shore, there are no excuses for the public to accept these failures of their government.
It's a major fault in /. moderation system that posts are so easily and frequently modded as troll. A comment, however stupid it is, can only be modded as troll if it clearly insincere.
This is a comment I actually agree with so you can imagine the misbehavior of the modders is even more offensive .
It is indeed very obvious that with the ending of the Mueller investigation every possible claim against the sitting government will be thrown at it to draw attention away from it.
Well, not every possible claim. Nobody cares about the things where he really stinks. This is a horrible president folks, but the only cases where he had the right instinct were the cases where he got resistance from everyone: North Korea (mostly been torpedoed but not dead yet), Afghanistan(might still succeed), Russia(gave up on that very quickly), Syria(unclear). Venezuela: let's get that oil. So that makes him presidential.
For a start, Dick and Shrub deleted emails the court specifically asked for, years earlier.
Second, Dick used private email servers. Years earlier.
Third, Hillary did not delete any emails requested by the court.
Fourth, she was investigated BY A REPUBLICAN CONGRESS and found innocent.
Fifth, so what? YOU claim to be the party of responsiblity and law and order, yet you do the same AND WORSE crimes you accuse, not prove, accuse, others of, and proclaim that THE DEMOCRATS are just criminals, yet you want to ALSO proclaim that "nah your fault we broke the law! And here's a history that only goes back to when YOU did it, and I will claim YOU FIRST!!!".
Dumbass idiot. Pure republican bullshit and criminality.
Are you telling me that people saw Hillary Clinton store years of classified information on private email servers without getting so much as a slap on the wrist and now they have the audacity to think they can do the same? I'm shocked and appalled.
Democrats, before you gave Hillary a walk for the same exact behavior. And like the morons that the Democrats are, you didn't think that the moron Republicans would then pull the same exact shit when given half a chance?
I mean, crying foul when someone else does the same exact thing you do, simply makes one look like a fucking pussy. And God knows the Democrats don't need any more help *there*.
Seriously.
that Jared and Ivanka used an app known for it's end to end encryption an ability to maintain privacy and secrecy with the full intention of maintaining all records.
Also, I'm quite certain I'm Napoleon. Viva la France!
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Clearly the Clinton, Bush and Obama admins did it and nobody got in trouble. So big fucking deal. Give it a rest you diarrhetic assholes on slashdot with an axe to grind.
We dont need their oil when are producing more than them.
And before Hillary there was Shrub and Cheney. Republicans. Who got given the walk DESPITE DELETING EMAILS THE COURT REQUESTED. Since you didn't complain when you did it before, you can't blame Hillary for you not complaining about you doing it AGAIN.
Maybe you should have thought before posting your bollocks. Try something not so obviously ideologically blinded and contrafactual.
It's never about needing the oil. It is about controlling it and a bit about selling it.
Mishandling classified evidence is what would send Hillary to prison for decades, for using an unsecured, unauthorized server adminned by a guy who didn't have a security clearance. Just ask Kristian Saucier who was prosecuted by the DOJ for taking selfies on his unsecured, unauthorized cell phone on a sub.
And what do YOU think the government would do to you if you destroyed thousands of pieces of evidence while under active FBI investigation?
"[H]er lawyer says she sent the emails before she was briefed on the rules."
It's a testament to this lawyer's iron will that he/she could utter that sentence without vomiting. If there's anyone on earth who really thinks that this administration could have entered the White House being blissfully unaware that email privacy and security was something to probably think about...
The very first month Trump is in office he blows up Israeli intelligence assets out in the open. It was made known that Israel's security officials now considered anything "leaked" to the U.S. president is at risk. It hasn't gotten any better since then but domestic intelligence has adopted the practice of withholding things from him.
Over every objection by each and every U.S. intelligence agency Ivanka and Jared are given security clearances. These two are paid with taxpayer dollars to advise the president.
I & J have been revealed to be in conflict of interest in multiple instances involving foreign entities, both government and private. The entire family has been shown to be skirting the law and is most likely open to blackmail.
Now we have many posts in this thread that state with absolute confidence that I & J could not possibly have anything worth investigating and by no means could have possibly have compromised anything. The mind reels.
Buttery Males.
...stuff that matters(?)
Moderation at Slashdot is "-1 if I don't like what you said, even if it's true and referenced", unfortunately... Feelings seem to matter more and more, over facts.
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
Burma Shave
While they let Hillary off , and unless the Trumpkids did anything worse doubt there will b any serious consequences. PR it is clumsy given the campaign rhetoric.
This is just whatabboutery on behalf of Hillary Clinton without mentioning her by name. No one else has set up their own private server, used it extensively & exclusively for electronically communicating the highest levels of classified information, or destroyed huge amounts of evidence while under active FBI investigation. There is no comparison whatsoever between Hillary and any Republican - Republicans, by the way, who Hillary blasted for using "secret email" accounts a mere two years before setting up her own secret email server. So she was a much worse hypocrite, much earlier, than anyone who chanted "lock her up" but now doesn't care about the Kushner's.
And that's not the end of the BS. There's the nonsense that Hillary's emails were ok because they weren't marked classified. If Hillary got an email from a CIA section chief in Japan about the state of North Korea's nuclear weapons program, that information didn't have to be stamped as classified to be treated as such - it was inherently classified. A fact Hillary knew full well as she received special training on handling such information.
Then there's the line that it wasn't that bad because Hillary didn't have any intent to mishandle or misuse any information. But intent is completely irrelevant to being charged with handling classified evidence - just ask Kristian Saucier. He was prosecuted by the same DOJ that whitewashed Hillary's actions, despite the DOJ agreeing that he had no intention of misusing the selfies he took on Navy submarines. They prosecuted him anyway, because he had classified information on his unsecured, unauthorized phone. Hillbots, try and explain why she shouldn't be prosecuted for her unsecured, unauthorized server when far lesser people have done time in federal pound-me-in-the-ass penitentiaries.
Last but not least, there's the destruction of tens of thousands of pieces of evidence while under active FBI investigation. Dembots have been cheering Mueller for indictments over process crimes, like lying to the FBI. Just what do you think St. Robert would have done if Manafort or Papadopolis had deleted 30,000+ emails while he was actively investigating them. They'd get decades for obstruction of justice, even if that was the only charge he went to trial with.
You chop and change your make believe accusations to fit what you need at the tim, not reality and not even your own proclamation of honour. Moreover, Hillary had precedent all the way back to Dick Cheney that Secretaries of state could use private secured email servers, just not for classified info. Tell me of any prior presidential daughter and son-in-law who had TS clearance and a private email service for government work for THEIR precedent.
Not forgetting YOUR SIDE ran on the "don't vote her in, she'll hide her emails from you and your scrutiny!", not Hillary. If you'd gone and admitted you'd do it to and ran on THAT plank, you'd have a point.
You didn't, so you don't.
Or was the "breathe deeply" jut a nonsequtur to poison the well and propose that
a) you're the "rational" one
b) I'm "irrational"
without actually having to defend that slur or provide anything other than your feelings of hurt and wonderment that anyone could DARE to criticise pro-republican bullshit?
Try engaging your forebrain, not the lizard era parts.
The point is that they were not on an insecure server for Hillary, they ARE for Jared and Ivanka. Hillary had a private server, not one owned by a non government private entity that was never secured in the first place beyond that required for them to operate as a business, not a government arm.
There were only a few barely security clearance documents on Hillary's server, the few others were only changed clearance AFTER they were written, so are not a problem due to grandfathering, the info had "already bolted".
So, yeah, fake concern troll detected, ad hom/nonsequitur/poisoning the well fallacy found, fake reality retcon rebutted.
Oh, and both you fucking retards completely non sequitured away the actual points one through five, preferring to just attack me instead of the claims. Morons.
(The /. ratio is defined as the ratio of AC comments by paid Russian propagandists compared to the rest of the comments in aggregate.)
senior White House advisor Jared Kushner's lawyer admitted in December
This is news now? I remember hearing about this at the time (December) - Cummings isn't claiming they are using WhatsApp today.
Just to be clear an exchange between a husband and wife where oneor both work in the whitehouse about whether the other will be home for dinner qualifies as "official whitehouse business" since it involves their work schedule.
Ken
Individual 1 is a name for the President in a Southern District of New York investigation, not Mueller investigation.
Ken
LOCK THEM UP!!! LOCK THEM UP!! LOCK THEM UP!! LOCK THEM UP!! .....
Excellent example of the brokenness of Slashdot's moderation. I can see the selfish (even authoritarian) basis for the "I disagree" negative mods, but what's the justification for insightful in such a tiny joke? A "funny" mod or two for the satirical aspects might have been justified, but I don't think nepotism, even flagrant nepotism, calls for the chanting mob.
However it does remind me of the parody protest I'd like to see, based on the chant of "Lock kids up, LOCK KIDS UP!" Obviously it would be a parody of a Trump rally, but as part of a protest against child separation, especially for asylum seekers. I think for maximum impact, the protesters should chant in "Trump face", with the short video building to a crescendo of rage before dissolving into mad screams. Each Trump face could be as simple as a piece of paper. I'd recommend an angry shouty closeup of Trump's face. Try to forget the image of a mob of enraged little Trumps!
Well done, I think that such a video might go viral. It might even cause some people to stop and think "Do I really want to be part of that sort of thing?"
The bottom line is that it is legal to seek asylum. Be quite amusing if Trump's supporters want to flee in panic because the next president turns out to be a Democratic anti-Trump with Trumpian tendencies, only to discover that Canada and Mexico have closed the borders and will separate them from their children if they seek asylum.
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
Surrrrre looks like a SHITHOLE COUNTRY to the rest of the world.
> It's not a bribe as much as a "I'll do something nice for me and I'll hear you out... but I won't actually do something I think is wrong".
Wow, that's really neat. You can completely ignore bribery laws by declaring that you intended to favor those donors regardless of their donations? That's incredibly convenient!
Until you arrest the grand prize winner for top secret material stored on a box conveniently accessible to the world, until that day I say not one government official should be punished for leaking information.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
There is that
After all the shit they have been involved in, and after Mueller's report was submitted without anyone named Trump getting indicted, the Trump family truly is above the law. Nothing at all ever sticks to anyone named Trump.
He doesn't know, he doesn't have ANY evidence, only well-documented animus.
He is simply mounting a smear campaign, backed by most of the malicious mainstream media to slander any Trump-related persons and try to convince some other committee or law enforcement group to harass them. That much is obvious to all.
In the wake of the Mueller fiasco never achieving an erection for them, perhaps he will only be given the consideration he deserves, ie little to none.
Time would be better spent in looking into the multiple accusations of corruption lodged against Cummings [] that he has spent much of his political life trying to avoid.
> I won't be holding my breath for a chant...any chant...of lock him up.
There's one in this story, down a few threads.
Bush's 22 million emails.
and,yes, biologically. And I will show you cases, natural normal cases with real normal human beings who are 100% as valid members of society as you, that fit neither male nor female in your definition.
THAT is proof that there is a spectrum of genders/sexes, even biologically. Because people naturally are analogue, not binary.
Because, oddly enough, he benefits from global finances and will happily use it to profit himself. All he has to do is dogwhistle to you morons who are NOWHERE NEAR HALF THE PEOPLE about anti-semitic bullshit (globalist is just the neonazi term for the nazi term "international Jewry", see Soros' appreciation you have) that he's anti-what-you-are and you just lap it up and ignore he's a globalist too.
Oddly enough the only invisible people were at trump's inauguration, and the only votes found to be fraudulent were ones from the trump campaign team.
Did THAT not set a precedent years earlier? Or does that not count because that's the republicans doing it, and your echo chamber will not let you know about it..?
Never claimed you were pro-anything, fuckwit, but you cannot rebut my points or arguments so instead you make up an accusation you can just flatly and without any evidence or reasons for believing you, proclaim is not the case.
What IS the case is you're an idiot who skipped right past every argument YET AGAIN.
And no, calling you an idiot or moron is neither ad hom (it is not in place of an argument against your "point", partly because you made none of relevance to my post), nor an insult. The FACT of your idiocy you find insulting, but it's just a plain old fact.
Its just 'important' 'people above the law' who shit on everyone else. Nothing will happen to them, 0 consequences. Move along sheeple, nothing to see here. Go watch 'American gladiator' or 'trump show' or something.
Never claimed I was pro-anything, huh?
YOU claim to be the party of responsiblity and law and order
Would you care to try again?
Anyway, it's not that I cannot rebut your points or arguments, it's that I actively choose not to let myself get sidetracked by them. Your arguments because they are an obvious and amateur attempt to distract from the fundamental issue at hand. What matters is the simple, indisputable fact that politicians should not be using private email servers.
Stop ducking and weaving. All you have been doing is attempting to justify one party's actions while condemning the other, by splitting hairs on the finer, overall less relevant details. It's just a bunch of sputtering "yeah, but... yeah, but..." without any focus on the core problem.
Do you agree that it is irresponsible for politicians -- OF ANY PARTY -- to be storing work email on a private server? Yes or no? Any other response is an attempt to derail and I will not respond to such distractions, no matter how much you abuse your capslock key or call me names.