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Tinder Announces New 'Height Verification' Feature. But They May Be Lying (gotinder.com)

"The Tinder dating app will soon be asking men to submit photos in order to verify their height," writes long-time Slashdot reader SonicSpike, sharing a post made Friday (March 29th) on the official Tinder blog. Let's be real, when it comes to online dating -- honesty is the best policy. Yes, your height matters as long as every other shallow aspect of physical attraction does. Please try not to take it to heart...

Height-lying ends here. To require everyone under 6' to own up to their real height, we're bringing truthfulness back into the world of online dating. Introducing Tinder's Height Verification Badge (HVB), because yes -- sometimes it matters. It's the tool we've had in our back-pockets for years, but we were hoping your honesty would allow us to keep it there... Simply input your true, accurate height with a screenshot of you standing next to any commercial building. We'll do some state-of-the-art verifying and you'll receive your badge directly on your profile.

Oh, and by the way? Only 14.5% of the U.S. male population is actually 6' and beyond. So, we're expecting to see a huge decline in the 80% of males on Tinder who are claiming that they are well over 6 feet.

The post concludes that "Tinder's HVB is coming soon to a phone near you," and Tinder's official Twitter account described the feature as "the thing you never asked for, but definitely always wanted," with a short video showing their app displaying errors for incorrect heights. (The second error message reads "Seriously... Please enter your correct height.") The video has been viewed 2.78 million times. Its tagline? "Let's bring honesty back to dating."

"It's unknown at this point if this is a real feature that the company is adding to its dating app," reported one local news site, "or an early April Fool's joke."

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  1. Hilarious by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Looks like the men have been violating the number one qualification for women on Tinder.

    Honesty is the best policy? How about you clean up the ladies bios and pictures? Oh - the picture looks like you weigh 100 pounds less? Must be the camera angle.

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    1. Re:Hilarious by OzPeter · · Score: 3, Informative

      Looks like the men have been violating the number one qualification for women on Tinder.

      Honesty is the best policy? How about you clean up the ladies bios and pictures? Oh - the picture looks like you weigh 100 pounds less? Must be the camera angle.

      You are presupposing that the women actually exist in the first place. During the data breach a few years ago Ashley Madison was exposed as having a ton of fake profiles (one site even suggested 90-95% of female profiles were fake) I presume that any site that requires men to pay real money to connect women most like has a huge number of fake profiles on their books.

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    2. Re:Hilarious by rogoshen1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Definitely -- they need a weight verification tool for women as well. Maybe some combination of advanced image analysis utilizing gravitational lensing and/or bathroom scale selfies.

      Calling out the double standard is hilarious as well.
      height? women can be picky/shitty about this one -- men can't do anything but chant "grow, grow, grow" and hope c'thulu hears their prayer
      weight? men asking women their weight is a bit taboo for some reason, despite it being 100% under their control.

    3. Re: Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Be fair now, Tinder is garbage for everyone.

      Women may get responses, but the vast majority of them aren't exactly winners. People get really weird and fetishy all the time, and you start wondering how much of a stalker they are. There's also the endless wave of dick pics.

    4. Re:Hilarious by geekmux · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Tinder has a reputation for being full of people exaggerating their physical attributes. They pretend to be taller, to have bigger boobs, to have more money and a better car.

      Uh, Tinder has a reputation?

      Humans have a reputation for exaggerating their physical attributes. A bullshit artist doesn't need Tinder, and that tool is doing nothing more than representing human behavior. Destroy it today, and the same damn thing will pop up in its place tomorrow. With all the same problems.

    5. Re: Hilarious by Dunbal · · Score: 2

      Like someone said elsewhere - we need a concrete definition of "curvy"...

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    6. Re:Hilarious by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      I understand your grief.
      Woman are not to heavy for their height.
      They are just to small for their weight.

      Obviously you could argue the same way for men :P

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    7. Re: Hilarious by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is no definition for curvy.

      Go to http://okcupid.com/ and set your preferences to "curvy" girls.

      American curvy girls are fat

      European curvy girls have "big tits/big ass" and are either normal weight or just slightly above average .. as in "curvy".

      How a fat girl can think she has curves is beyond me :P

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    8. Re:Hilarious by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Definitely -- they need a weight verification tool for women as well. Maybe some combination of advanced image analysis utilizing gravitational lensing and/or bathroom scale selfies.

      Calling out the double standard is hilarious as well. height? women can be picky/shitty about this one -- men can't do anything but chant "grow, grow, grow" and hope c'thulu hears their prayer weight? men asking women their weight is a bit taboo for some reason, despite it being 100% under their control.

      It is rather an odd thing, because men are always called out for all of us being shallow. But looking at the bucket lists that so many women have, it becomes obvious real quickly that they will have to lower their standards, or get pets to keep them company.

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    9. Re: Hilarious by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is the era of the Kardashians. Having a large ass is way, way, waaaaaaaay more acceptable among women

      Well, like you said fetishized by SOME men, but ugh...I think she looks like a freak with that thing, and I dare say most normal men don't like it ultra-wide.

      But everyone has their preferences.

      I think there is a problem with 'normalizing' being overweight for women and men. It is not healthy and we already have a problem with obesity.

      If you are overweight, it should be pointed out, so that a person can get help and try to get to a more healthy weight.

      We've got enough of a load on the healthcare system as it is, and obesity and the associated spread of type II diabetes is going to bankrupt us in the future if we don't try to stop the health problem.

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    10. Re:Hilarious by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      Every study on the subject of female attractiveness has demonstrated that the vast and overwhelming majority of men care mostly about the proportions of a woman's figure. You guys are the first two statistical anomalies I have ever come accords that obsess over a woman's weight.

      Oh really? I don't care if a woman is "curvy", but Weight is often interchangeable with obese. And no sir, I do not find fat chicks attractive at all. Show me where the overwhelming majority of men prefer fat chicks.

      Is there like a certain fixed amount of female body mass where you experience abrupt erectile failure or is it more of a gradient where you slowly move into the realm of impotence as a function of the mass of the female?

      Is there like a certain levelof disruption of your narrative that makes you resort to silly male shaming like accusations of impotence?

      With that - good day, and Jezabel called - they like the way you think.

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    11. Re: Hilarious by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Informative

      How a fat girl can think she has curves is beyond me

      Well, I guess being in the shape of a large sphere does qualify in some way as having a curve somewhere.....maybe just one BIG continuous curve?

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    12. Re: Hilarious by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

      Fat girls try harder?

      Actually, they don't. They, for the most part, have the same queen-like opinion of themselves that more attractive women have, and it makes them perpetually angry that reality won't conform to their personal set of standards.

      The way it works is that they can have preferences for tall, handsome guys, but guys are wrong if they prefer slim women. "It's so exclusionary!!" I saw this completely bonkers double standard all the time back when I was dating. Echh. Thank fucking god I'm done with that shit.

      With that said, being married isn't always perfectly smooth sailing (ha ha) but it beats the shit out of dating.

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    13. Re: Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of course, there is always the possibility that your wife of 7 years turns into a cheating whore and you have to start all over, but what do I know.

    14. Re:Hilarious by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Funny

      It is rather an odd thing, because men are always called out for all of us being shallow. But looking at the bucket lists that so many women have, it becomes obvious real quickly that they will have to lower their standards, or get pets to keep them company.

      Women both live longer

      Men die before their wives beacuse they want to.

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    15. Re: Hilarious by sound+vision · · Score: 2

      When they're demanding my dick, that usually bodes well, then again I don't use Tinder.

    16. Re:Hilarious by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      The problem with such standards is manyfold.

      People who don't meet that standard are striving for it (but most likely never reach it)
      Some even go for operations, my GF wants her "nose fixed". But I like her nose.
      My ex GF wanted her labiums fixed. And wanted me to pay for it. I left her ... not because of the money, but I found the idea horrifying ... and she insisted (and her lower parts looked extremely nice and sexy anyway).

      I find people who lived a while and arranged with their body and their live, aka being confident, having fun, smile a lot, look back on achievements and look forward for more/other achievements etc. are usually very pleasant and happy and hence: look good! And that means woman around 40 - 50, or 60 depending on way of living, are actually much more attractive than a 20 year old cheer leader.

      The way to go is to do a little bit of sports, Yoga would be a start. A martial art or dancing would be better. (Because they are mixed courses, men + women). Or some other work, like gardening.

      Point is, you don't need to be super slim to look attractive. You should be in a state, mental state, that you don't worry about your "looks". E.g. about men in the gym. You find any kind of man with muscles like this or more muscles or even more muscles. If I was a girl I would prefer guys who look like ballet dancers. Defined muscles, but not super heavy build up (most likely because that is how I looked from 25 - 30, but it was always my goal to look like that.) I still look like that, but my muscles are less defined (just in case you wondered).

      Martial arts as well as dancing automatically bring you together ... no dating site needed it the club is big enough. And obviously you pair up with the other sex automatically often enough. (Well, martial arts as in traditional martial arts ... or Tai Chi/Chi Gong etc. If you only do Muay Thai or kick boxing and only spar with same sex partners ... bad luck)

      Both ways of doing sports, build up a basic body constitution ... obviously gardening or farming goes same direction. If you have a basic body constitution, the exact shape does not matter. The grace comes from moving and body posture. A cheer leader who looks good on a photo simply looks ugly if she can not dance, same for a football player. They look ugly if they can not walk, not stand appropriated for a photo etc. The face is irrelevant. You smile: you look good. Obviously YMMV if you have no front teeth.

      Point is: it does not matter if you have a bit of a belly, if you have esprie and attitude (insert french pronounciation) you look great. Look at this video: https://www.facebook.com/briti... the guy in question would not look attractive to most people. But in his club and amoung his friends (that includes girls) he is well reputated. (Sorry, can not find the relevant youtube video)

      My GF finds herself ugly. I don't know why. She wants the nose changed (from an asian nose with a deep ditch at the brow, to an european one). She has some (few) grey hair and paints it black (that is ok, but with the little bit grey she would look just awesome).
      She is very tiny, as in only 5 feet (less actually, 150cm) tall. But besides a little bit of belly, the only fat she has, she is pure muscles. Legs like a weight lifter, broad shoulders, strong arms. I guess she even could beet me at arm wrestling :D I find that extremely attractive ... and she is heavy. I guess about 60kg ...

      Slim girls are not automatically attractive. Thin legs which are thin because of hunger are not sexy. Well formed legs of a person who runs, dances, does anything using them, that is sexy. The worst are thin girls with big titts, they are at the edge to be ugly in my eyes, but that is just me.

      Anyway, what I want to say: beauty

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    17. Re: Hilarious by Lanthanide · · Score: 2

      I would have thought a triangular prism would be the least curvy way to enclose a volume.

    18. Re:Hilarious by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      It's true. A LOT of women put a height requirement in their dating profile. I doubt most guys would dare put a weight requirement in.

      On the other hand, I've been told by a lot of female friends that a surprising number of guys have strong height preferences for women too.

      Well, there are preferences, and there are requirements. I like tall women, long legs and long hair.

      But I've dated and been involved with shorties in my younger years.

      For the requirements, I was watching a YT video, one of the "Where have all the good men gone" ones. I think it was a Network show like Dateline (calendar type dates).

      They had a group of single woman and an interviewer sitting around what looked like a nice bar or restaurant. These were very physically attractive women. They were all in their mid-late 30's, and in professional careers. None could find a man that lived up to their requirements. And since the biological clock was ticking, they were getting desperate, like egg freezing desperate.

      They went down their requirement list. The man's height was at or near the top of each.

      Other requirements were to make as much money as they are, to be physically fit and handsome, and to be within a specific age range, and it was not stated, but pretty implicit they would be amenable to start fertility treatments immediately.

      When looking at their lists, and talking about what to drop in order to make it easier to find a man - trying to give up the height requirement was tough for these ladies - the drive is that strong.

      But what they are looking for is a bit of a unicorn anyhow. Finding a man that has all of their requirements is hard. A tall handsome, wealthy, single man in his late 30's early 40's who wants to get married and have children ASAP is a vanishingly small part of the population. It's like every man expecting to marry Sophia Vergara, and refusing to settle for anything less.

      One of the first problems that is so often overlooked, is that in the quest for women to hold many high paying careers, is some rock bottom simple math.

      There are just so many high paying jobs available. Simple math tells us that if we reach parity of something over 50 percent of women in those careers, that means that there will be less wealthy men available. So welcome to a part of equality they didn't think about. Men "marry down" all the time. The natural inclination of women is to "marry up" due to that security drive. But you can't have equal representation by sex and have women marry up all the time. The pool of men considered acceptable is being reduced by that equality. This is that simple math, and the only way to counteract that is to create many more lucrative careers, or women to fight against that basic drive.

      So yeah, the woman who is making 6 or more figures in a lucrative career and racing her biological clock might just need to lower her standards. Or stay single.

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  2. It also needs weight verification. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Let's face it, thousands of women on that platform are surely lying about their weight. They use "Myspace angles" to hide in pictures in order to deceive potential matches.

    So, let's be fair and make sure women tell the truth.

    1. Re: It also needs weight verification. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When it comes to women and rights/expectations, the world of double standards is the norm, not the exception.

    2. Re: It also needs weight verification. by _merlin · · Score: 2

      And what are you doing about this way your government is curtailing your freedom? I can go to a legal brothel across the road if I want to.

  3. Ah joy, the phony April fools stories by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    where the company wants to float an idea that might be offensive but wants plausible deniability in case it is.

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    1. Re:Ah joy, the phony April fools stories by Dunbal · · Score: 2

      Tinder is offensive

      You're not forced to download it and use it. Let other people do what they want instead of getting "offended" over stuff that has nothing to do with you.

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    2. Re:Ah joy, the phony April fools stories by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Let other people do what they want instead of getting "offended" over stuff that has nothing to do with you.

      I can do both: let people do what they want, and get offended. That is my right, as is theirs.

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  4. I hate 1st April by TheNinjaCoder · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I should stay offline until 2nd.

  5. Just use your mug shot by david.emery · · Score: 2

    Many mug shots are taken with a height scale behind the perp.

  6. The Equality of Misrepresentation by geekmux · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since it appears that there's a significant problem with men misrepresenting themselves in their online profiles, I don't mind men being targeted for some brutal honestly.

    Of course, this also means I FULLY expect a new Tinder policy that requires every woman's profile to include a full body shot (to include whatever algorithmic hashes are necessary to disprove image manipulation), as well as a makeup-free selfie. There's ZERO reason we should allow the women to get away with misrepresentation.

    I think I've also pointed out the obvious differences between the genders. Careful what you wish for ladies. We men might end up demanding you provide the same, in the name of equity.

  7. Re:Stuff like this is silly ... by ledow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Obtaining a date is easy if you lie - look forward to being downrated, commented on, blocked, etc. though. That's why there are trends for "date reviews" nowadays, to ward off others from the creeps and work on a reputation-based system (whether that's "he was a really good shag" or "he's a wonderful guy, we're really good friends, but we just aren't quite right for each other).

    But if 80% of men are saying they're over 6 foot, there's no way that those 80% of men aren't getting repeat dates, hence the only people actually fooling themselves are the women who think they have to have someone over 6 foot and would notice, and men know that and so know they can lie about it and get away with it.

    Maybe if we were all a bit less shallow, these things wouldn't matter. Maybe if they opened up their "essential" criteria a bit, it would help everyone. But women get swamped with guys so they can literally afford to filter to what they think is the "perfect" guy. Guys can't be as picky, fact of life. They might all clamber for the young leggy blonde but fact is that they have to await acceptance from the women on such platforms, not the other way around, hence they will lie to pass that filter.

    It's one of the reasons that whenever I'm dating online I ignore absolutely any statistic and go entirely by the chat. I don't care if they're 4 feet or 20, what their cup size is, what they claim their age to be, and so on. It literally means nothing because virtually everyone lies about those things and the people who think it's important enough to actually put on their profile are the type of people I don't want to date (sometimes you can't avoid putting it on, but you can make it clear whether you give a shit about matching on that or not).

    Even for a one-nighter, if you're that vain that you'll only sleep with people over 6-foot, then I don't really want to know you, whether I'm 6-foot or not.

    Now there are some attributes that are worth knowing for elimination purposes - smokers, for instance. But I have to say that all the vital statistics in the world are useless in gauging how much you enjoy someone's company.

    Honestly, there's a lot to be said for "online blind dates". Just chatting to someone who you know absolutely nothing about.

    But lying about a vital statistic is dumb, and this kind of "verification" will just be photoshopped into oblivion.

  8. Women with no makeup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Looking forward to women being required to upload unretouched photos of makeup-free faces, also Weight Verification Badges.

  9. Re:Stuff like this is silly ... by alvinrod · · Score: 2

    Running around faking something you are not, trying to impress someone you like, but might be interested in just the opposite you fake, plain stupid.

    You assume that everyone using the service is looking for a long term relationship. I have a feeling most are just looking for a quick fuck. I that case, why would you look for anything other than some shallow, vapid person that is also looking for the same thing?

  10. Weird by Teun · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Weird, only 14.5% of US males being over 6'.
    I'm born in 1952 and when I was drafted (1970) the average height of my age was 6'2"...
    (I'm from the Netherlands)
    Still weird because in my youth I was always told about these tall US soldiers that in 1945 came to liberate us.
    What happened between say 1935 and 2019?

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    1. Re:Weird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not weird at all.

      The Netherlands has the highest average height of any country in the world, and is much more genetically homogeneous (77% Dutch/Frisian) than the U.S. It also has had good nutrition with loads of dairy in the diet since the end of WWII. And those tall G.I.s were by and large young, Euro-American farm boys raised on diets of cheap beef, milk, and corn, basically the tallest subset of the American population, whereas the Netherlands went through 7 years of war and poverty, during which its typically shorter Jewish population was annihilated.

      The U.S. now is much more genetically diverse with much larger populations form East Asia and Central America, where heights tend to be lower, and it has a much larger proportion of first generation immigrants who grew up in poverty than the Netherlands. The U.S. also consumes a lot less beef and dairy per capita than it did before the war.

    2. Re:Weird by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      What happened between say 1935 and 2019?
      They shrinked.
      Shrunk?
      Shronked?

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    3. Re:Weird by Ecuador · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm born in 1952 and when I was drafted (1970) the average height of my age was 6'2"...
      (I'm from the Netherlands)
      Still weird because in my youth I was always told about these tall US soldiers that in 1945 came to liberate us.

      You are quite off, I suspect you did a conversion error: 6'2" is 1.87 cm, when the average height of Dutch men in 1970 was about 1.76 (5'9" - 5'10"). The average height of the Dutch men has been increasing steadily and fast until around 2000, slower now but it is at its highest ever at 1.84m (just over 6ft). They started as the shortest men in the late 19th century (1.60 average), but I cannot find a 1940s figure to quote.
      US men on the other hand seems to have pretty much plateaued in height around 1970 and they were considered among the tallest in the world the further back you go in time. In 1943 specifically the average height of US recruits was 174cm. As I can't tell how that graph goes from the late 19th century's 160cm to the 1970 176cm, I am not sure if the US soldiers would be noticeably taller during WW 2. But I suspect the difference might have been more "psychological" rather than physical.

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  11. Re:Stuff like this is silly ... by WalrusSlayer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Having jumped into this world recently, I have some observations...

    At least in my age-bracket (early 50-something, but trolling for 40-somethings and even 30-somethings that are interesting), nearly all the women on Tinder want to replace their lost soul-mate and they want to do it yesterday. This seems to be true of most of the dating sites I'm on. And if you are not existentially clamoring for the same thing then you must be just a serial-dater or a hookup guy and are a waste of their time.

    The notion that a soulmate is a difficult thing to find, and that sometimes it needs to develop organically, is just lost on them. Seems they'd rather sit at home alone rather than entertain the notion that perhaps getting out and about with a less-than-ideal match might be a better use of their time. They might even learn something about how other people work/think/behave, and maybe learn something about themselves in the process. And if that less-than-ideal match is physically attractive, not the end of the world to let off some steam in the pent-up-hormones dept.

    Personally I try to go in with an open mind, and if the date goes nowhere, I got an evening out at the very least. Or it might cultivate a beneficial platonic relationship, which has happened more than once for me. If it's a good fit and grows into something more, then I'm open to that too. You know, just like how real dating works. But the "ya-gotta-be-looking-to-get-married-and-yesterday" filter is a huge obstacle for everyone involved.

    I *am* puzzled at the blatant dishonesty on physical attributes. Lying on your height? Really? And I've gotten really good at reading between the pixels, as it were, on the women's photos. Or at the very least, figure they will be one or two notches less attractive in person. But I'm open to the notion that after a couple of hours, if a person's personality is attractive, the physical appearance truly does go down in importance. Which is one of the biggest limitations in online dating, which is that it's a rare photograph that also conveys a person's soul (to be a bit melodramatic).

    My pictures are representative of how I look. And of course I pick ones that make me look good, but not deceptively so. The only fudging I do is with age. And I'm unapologetic about it. There are a statistically unlikely distributions of 39 and 49y/o women on the site. Sorry, no way. The only explanation is they are trying to game the age filter. In my case, losing 25lbs and hitting the gym regularly means an age filter would unfairly bias me out of searches. *Every* time I've come clean on my age after meeting someone, I always get surprised reactions that I really do look mid-40's (I usually advertise upper 40's), and a few times people have commented that my upbeat demeanor is more of a upper-30/lower-40's person.

    So I won't be happy if they somehow implement age verification, as I truly believe that people put more importance on it than they should. But I imagine that the women will be even less happy, based on the number of 9's I see in the ages.

  12. Re:You know exactly that we mean fatasses! by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    And aren't attracted by "thinspiration"

    Yet you *chose* to go off on this stupid strawman rant!

    Exactly. whoever it was didn't appear to have a problem with women demanding men's heights, and even stooped so low as to make weird veiled accusations of impotence.

    Those badonkadonk ballon tit overstyled plastic women can't even kiss my ass. Totally unattractive. Styling is only another word for LYING!

    But I'm German. And I can see tits just by going to the next park/lake/beach in the summer. So maybe it's a Murican thing.

    I know a lot of people, and almost none of them like the bolted on Grapefruit half look - fake boobs women. Only a couple I know like that. And you can spot silicone a mile away. Just some insecure women who thiink they know what men like. And lest we grow too complacent, some are enlarging their buttocks now. Time will not be kind to these ladies.

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  13. Well yes, but ... by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... I'm taller lying down.

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