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'Fortnite' May be a Virtual Game, But It's Having Real-life, Dangerous Effects (bostonglobe.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: "They are not sleeping. They are not going to school. They are dropping out of social activities. A lot of kids have stopped playing sports so they can do this." Michael Rich, a pediatrician and director of the Clinic for Interactive Media and Internet Disorders at Boston Children's Hospital, was talking about the impact "Fortnite: Battle Royale" -- a cartoonish multiplayer shooter game -- is having on kids, mainly boys, some still in grade school. "We have one kid who destroyed the family car because he thought his parents had locked his device inside," Rich said. "He took a hammer to the windshield."

A year and a half since the game's release, Rich's account is just one of many that describe an obsession so intense that kids are seeing doctors and therapists to break the game's grip, in some cases losing so much weight -- because they refuse to stop playing to eat -- that doctors initially think they're wasting away from a physical disease. The stress on families has become so severe that parents are going to couples' counselors, fighting over who's to blame for allowing "Fortnite" into the house in the first place and how to rein in a situation that's grown out of control.
Further reading: 'Fortnite' Creator Sees Epic Games Becoming as Big as Facebook, Google.

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  1. Get this off my Slashdot! by lgw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A "vidogames are bad" story presented uncritically on Slashdot? My how we've fallen from a nerd-centric site. Jack Thompson would be proud of what Slashdot has become.

    Err, high-UID Slashdotters do know who Jack Thompson is, right? Get off my lawn!

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    1. Re:Get this off my Slashdot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This isn't a video games are bad story. This is a story about a game company that hired psychologists to make their game as addictive as a slot machine and the ignorant cunts that don't see that as a problem because it's a video game.

    2. Re:Get this off my Slashdot! by lgw · · Score: 5, Funny

      Low ID users need to fuck off and die. You're just a bunch of old IT closet-cleaning losers. A bunch of 50 year old nerds who are unemployed and unmarried.

      At 50, you become a Wizard.

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    3. Re:Get this off my Slashdot! by avandesande · · Score: 5, Funny

      Is that what you call having to get up in the middle of the night to take a leak?

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    4. Re:Get this off my Slashdot! by RazorSharp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is a story about a game company that hired psychologists to make their game as addictive as a slot machine

      Many companies have been doing this for a long time.

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  2. Re: These are children of people who know better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It could be worse, they could be playing D&D and listening heavy metal.

  3. Parents can't do no wrong by Z80a · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's always fault of something.

    1. Re:Parents can't do no wrong by HiThere · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, but...
      circumstances aren't all the same, and sometimes it *is* the fault of externalities. One needs to consider that it's been specifically designed to be as addictive as possible...and it's a refinement of prior attempts at such addictive design which have produced such things as Slashdot and FaceBook. Also that most kids really don't want to study anyway, so even a moderate distraction is normally sufficient.

      FWIW, I've never even looked at Fortnite. I've presumed that it would have an EULA that I wouldn't agree to. So this is just based around observable trends. But I agree that parents *will* always find something external to blame their kids behavior on. That's what got Socrates killed. (If we can believe Plato, who was not an unbiased observer.) But that doesn't mean that such things don't happen, and externalities are not always neutral.

      The real, possibly insoluble, problem is that all their friends are involved in the game. This is the Facebook problem all over again, but possibly in an even more malignant form. Network effects are difficult to deal with.

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  4. Totally not the parents . . . by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "We have one kid who destroyed the family car because he thought his parents had locked his device inside," Rich said. "He took a hammer to the windshield."

    Who finds out about that and then thinks its a video game issue.

    Seems to me the parents suck ass.

    Although, video games to have an impact on people, and to thing there is no effect, especially to a developing mind, would be foolish.

    But this? this is bad parenting. Should have had his system removed from him a lot sooner.

    Give him so old laptop that can't run it.

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  5. Destroyed the car? by techno-vampire · · Score: 5, Informative

    Get real, folks. Breaking the windshield doesn't destroy the car; it's still completely drivable, it just needs the windshield replaced.

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    1. Re:Destroyed the car? by nitehawk214 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe its a Kia.

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  6. Where are the parents? by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I mean really.
    My parents would steal the cables for my consoles, take away my Gameboy, and not allow any internet based on my systems MAC address.
    I was allowed books, radio, and outside.

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    1. Re:Where are the parents? by BringsApples · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My kid loves to play fortnighte but we keep him busy with other activities, too. Sure, some days he may play fortnighte for a couple of hours straight, but even on those days, he'll self-adjust, and go outside after feeling bored. If all the kids are doing is playing video games, why WOULDN'T they flip out when it suddenly has to stop? It's become their norm. This is how Nature works.

      If you're a parent of a kid that's into fortnighte don't be alarmed by news like this, just make sure that your kid(s) have other required activity too. It's just a game folks.

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  7. Do what my parents did. by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    “Enough games, [go outside and play / do your homework / do these chores / let’s do something else ...]”

    I was a kid once, they had video games then too, and they were very compelling and if I had my way I would be playing them all the time. When my parents told me to stop I was mad at them. Because I was so close to winning and or I was having a good run.

    But turning off the video games isn’t abuse. And you shouldn’t be allowing your kid to play games at the cost of their health and education.

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  8. Kids these days by Nkwe · · Score: 5, Funny

    In my day we had Everquest to ruin our lives.

    1. Re:Kids these days by DRJlaw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In my day we had Everquest to ruin our lives.

      Young whipper-snapper - get off my lawn!

      In my kids' day, they had EQ. And DAoC, of course....

      I my day we had M.U.L.E. And we LIKED IT.

  9. Here we go again by ilsaloving · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh no it's the video game! Video games are bad m'kay!

    I mean, it couldn't possibly be that we have an entire generation of parents that can't be bothered to actually do what they're supposed to and be.. you know... parents? Parents have gotten into the habit of treating electronic devices as babysitters. I was in a restaurant the other day and was stuck beside a family with a toddler. The toddler wouldn't stop making a scene until they dropped a tablet in front of them and played some annoying youtube video. I ended up having to move to a different table cause it was so breathtakingly annoying.

    It's called disciplining your child. They won't stop play to come eat, you make them stop, by whatever reasonable means necessary. Your children are not your friends. They're your effing children. YOU are responsible for teaching them what it means to be a healthy well-functioning adult. If you can't handle that, then don't have children.

    There is literally *always* something for a child to obsess about. Fortnite is nothing special.

    But naturally people won't take responsibility for their actions, so "blame everything but me" circlejerk resumes anew.

  10. Deluded Slashdoters by avandesande · · Score: 4, Insightful

    FFS people, video games are addictive. Are you really this clueless?

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  11. Re:Retards - the kids AND the parents. by LostMyAccount · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I will say as a parent that it's very difficult to allow Fortnite as a "sometimes" thing.

    The kids themselves have zero self control, there is no self-management of game play. You're literally yelling at them to quit.

    You can prevent them from playing at all, but you wind up with the ironic situation where the kids who they used to do stuff with in meat space aren't available because they're playing Fortnite.

    The best we've been able to manage (short of a total, permanent ban) is making play contingent on grades and barring it on school nights. You get all As and Bs in school, you can play on weekends or when there's no school. My kid lost it for a month when his grades slipped, and there was constant angling for exceptions or complaining about how unfair it was.

    The other strategy we haven't tried is trying to organize a multi-family Fortnite "holiday" where no kid can play. There's multiple challenges here, from the fact that 8th grade boys have a very amorphous and weak social circle in real life to other parents refusing to go along with it for various reasons -- "my kid doesn't have a problem", parents you don't know, and some percentage of parents who see Fortnite as the greatest babysitter ever.

  12. Re:Retards - the kids AND the parents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Posting AC for obvious reasons.

    My parents attempted similar approach when I was teenager and was playing too much games. This decision nearly ruined my life, as when I went to university and there was no longer oversight I went off the deep end. Nearly failed out and it took me extra year to finish my degree.

    Now I am in my mid 30s, have family, kids, and a well-paying job. I still play computer games, sometimes with my spouse, sometimes with kids. With everything else I do manage at least 5 hours of gaming a week, often more. I still pull all-nighters and book vacation from work when exiting new game releases.

    The issue with your approach is that for your kids games are better than almost anything else available. All you are doing is withholding something very desirable. Instead you should try unrestricted game play one summer, once they waste entire summer playing games, with cutting into sleep and hygiene, there will be internal realization that some balance is needed. From there, it will be possible to find balance without constant external oversight.