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Mozilla Will Run Two Experiments This Month With Firefox To Explore Ways To Fight Push Notification Permission Spam (zdnet.com)
Mozilla said this week that it intends to run two experiments over the course of this month to determine the most adequate way of dealing with push notification spam, a growing problem that is slowly deteriorating the web experience for everyone. From a report: The experiments will run in Firefox Nightly (v68) and Firefox Beta (v67). The Firefox Nightly experiment will run from April 1 to April 29. During this time, Mozilla said Firefox Nightly would only allow websites to show a push notification permission only after the user has clicked or pressed a key while on a website. All attempts to show a push notification permission request before a click or key press will be blocked by default. [...] In the last two weeks of the experiment, Firefox will show an icon in the URL bar, but with no visible popup on the page. Users can click this icon and accept any push notification permission requests if they wish so. Further reading: Mozilla and Scroll Partner To Test Alternative Funding Models for the Web.
Stop allowing websites to pop up anything, every. Seriously. For fuck sakes.
Why is this hard to understand?
"His name was James Damore."
How about just admitting that "push notifications" are a bad idea?
In what way?
They aren't removing the feature from the browser..
http://progressquest.com/spoltog.php?name=Son+Of+Son+Of+DarkRookie
-of blocking all of the sites that do this.
Because its not a good experience if every single website you go to shows an asked for popup about showing you notifications, asking your location, etc. etc..
I don't have too much of a problem with push notifications, it is those videos I want stopped. some you have to wait for it to download before you can do anything with it, some you have to look for on a page because you hear it and not see it, some blocks what you are trying to read because it won't close.
Then there are those sites that constantly bomb you with their subscription popups. how about stopping those too. maybe if they stop the notification ones, it will stop those.
Problem solved. See how simple that was? Do you need notifications in your browser: No, not unless you're trying to use a browser as an application engine, which is your first mistake; Everything after that is just more calamity.
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Stop adding bloat to the specification that just adds more ways for advertrackers to steal your hardware resources. If I was in charge I would go back to HTML4 with just the video tag added.. All this bloat makes browser engines complicated which is why everyone is just cloning chrome instead of making their own engines.
This.
The shit gets old fast.
I've never had Firefox nag. It just updates.
To inform us about this change. Man, talk about getting blindsided.
Add these to your "user.js" file:
user_pref("dom.push.enabled", false);
user_pref("dom.webnotifications.enabled", false);
Optionally these too (may be redundant with above):
user_pref("dom.push.alwaysConnect", false);
user_pref("dom.push.connection.enabled", false);
user_pref("dom.webnotifications.serviceworker.enabled", false);
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
It does?
Even more reason to keep them off.
http://progressquest.com/spoltog.php?name=Son+Of+Son+Of+DarkRookie
Your browser has permission to overwrite itself? Seems like a bad idea.
TFA pops up "Will you all www.zdnet.com to send notifications?" in an article about how the things are so hateful Firefox is rolling out a way to stop them. While they can be easily ignored, I've never once clicked "yes" and can't imagine doing so. Stopping them is a feature I'd enable.
I want to see web sites stop popping up their crappy interstitial pages I have to click through to get to contact, almost all of which implore me to subscribe to their stupid e-mail lists (not happening, ever, specifically because of how they pushed).
I want to see websites stop forcing me through "OMG LOOK AT ALL OUR NEW FEATURES" slides every time I log in.
Put a lil.
A lil.
Flashing thing on the side or something. But get the fuck out of my face.
ALL autoplay bullshit must end (fuck you cnn.com. I mean fuck you for about a hundred other reasons but especially fuck you for that.)
The sheer number of browser extensions I install to try to protect what is left of my privacy and stop apeshit web developers from engaging in screen bukkake has become absurd.
This is not what the Web was supposed to be.
And *yes*, I would be fine with about 2/3rds of the damn Web collapsing for want of ad revenue if what was left was clean and user-friendly. I have reached that point.
I'M MAD PEOPLE.
A CRAZY, MAD, WILD-EYED, BIG-BOTTOMED ANARCHIST.
I WAS HERE EARLY AND YOU WILL HEAR ME.
(they will not hear me. no need to point that out.)
Ironically, the biggest annoyance I've had lately is due to the EU GDPR ostensibly created to protect your privacy. About 80% of the websites I go to now have a GDPR pop-up I have to click through before I can read the content. If I browse in private/incognito mode, cookies are not retained so I get this pop-up every time I visit the site, which is rather annoying. If I browse in normal mode and agree that I have been informed of the site's privacy policy as per GDPR requirements, it writes a cookie to my browser telling the site not to show the notice again. And the cumulative sum of all those GDPR notification cookies makes my browser uniquely identifiable thus destroying my privacy. Catch-22.
Your browser has permission to overwrite itself? Seems like a bad idea.
Firefox seems to use the "When in Rome, do as the Romans do" philosophy.
On my Linux machines, it's updates are solely under the control of apt/dpkg package manager, like everything else in the system.
On my Windows machine, Firefox does "ambush" upgrades whenever it feels like it, but for some reason it doesn't finish them until you try to use it. So you never know whether you'll be delayed with a "Firefox is installing the latest updates" message box when you need to access something in a hurry. It's like a miniature version of the entire Windows OS update experience.
> So you never know whether you'll be delayed with a "Firefox is installing the latest updates" message box when you need to access something in a hurry.
This is one of the main reasons I use Chrome. Seriously. It updates in the background then displays a little icon saying I need to restart the browser. When I do it shuts down and starts back up in about 2-3 seconds total and all of my tabs reload. Never have to sit through a stupid 'updating' window like Firefox forces on you periodically.
I think you missed the meaning of the GP.
You can turn them off. Completely. It's really that simple.
There are exactly zero websites I want to be able to "push" content to me. I thought we had gotten over that entire model when broadcast TV died? Why are we now revisiting a battle we won, in a medium that's essentially "pull" from the ground up?
So website designers have decided that the privacy notification requirement means they need to set a cookie.
Go figure.
The experience running the web without javascript stopped being viable years ago.
Those GDPR pop-ups are probably illegal and will hopefully go away soon.
GDPR requires opt-in consent freely given. Making content only available if you agree is not allowed, you can't tie unnecessary data collection to provision of services. So forcing the user to click "I agree" before they can read your site is illegal.
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So, what notifications do you allow?
Those cookie consent popups existed before GDPR and they decrease privacy rather than increase it. They annoy people who delete cookies frequently, in order to convince them not to delete cookies. It seems to me that this is by design. The big tech companies must be happy with this arrangement, which they probably helped create, precisely because of this side effect.
Why use calendar/email that isn't compatible with the platform you use and vice-versa?
Because an outside factor has suddenly imposed a specific "platform you use" on you. How practical is it for a user to switch to a completely different calendar/email provider every time the user changes operating system?
And do all operating systems even have calendar software? Could, say, a user of the operating system called "Xbox One system software" use a calendaring application to schedule online play dates with another Xbox Live subscriber?
Why use a work computer for personal business?
For one thing, break time exists. For another, not having permission to install applications does not necessarily imply use of a work computer for personal business. Many especially larger companies' IT departments are so dysfunctionally lethargic that they have built a record of taking the most blame for other employees not being able to complete projects on time due to lack of authorization to install required applications. What should an employee who discovers this deep dysfunction do while polishing his or her resume?
In many of these cases, dysfunctional IT has blocked the use of work devices to run even work applications for work purposes in a timely manner. IT has imposed a two-week waiting period for work-related native applications or a zero waiting period for work-related web applications. This means end users are likely to do one of two things: use web applications, or bring personal devices just to be able to accomplish their work. How responsible would it be for IT to allow this dysfunction to continue to happen?