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VA Research Obtains linux.com Domain
Mithrandir sent us
a link to a new.com article which hits on the Intel investment,
but also reveals that
VA Research has acquired
the Linux.com domain.
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nslookup www.linux.com
:)
Name: www.linux.com
Address: 209.81.8.239
nslookup 209.81.8.238
Name: u238.varesearch.com
Address: 209.81.8.238
nslookup 209.81.8.240
Name: u240.varesearch.com
Address: 209.81.8.240
fat chance it's not varesearch. Doh news.com
Restricting an innovative company like ms which distributes a very popular (granted - mediocre) OS is DEATH for the industry.
Why is it that a govt. which takes 12 months to complete a 12 hour task (not to mention $12 billion) wants to impose restrictions on perhaps the fastest-paced industry???
One thing I've learned being in Business School is that the market ALWAYS comes to its own equilibrium - with/without intervention. Who would you rather decide? The Govt. or the Market?
TedC
LOL!!..ROFL...!!!
Did you guys see the posts from above, I mean the pro-MS posts... they're very weird, out of topic. and very funny.... hey, rob, did you just pull another practical joke on us??!?!?....
That was deffinately funny!
--Glenn Bautista
glenn2@compass.com.ph
Who is going to be on this advisory board? linux.com is a very important domain name. If there are fairly choosen members then thats kewl. I don't think VA would put their own employees there.
linux.com:
;)
transmeta.com:
I think Linus' wife maintains both pages.
-- Liquor up front, poker in the rear.
what i find funny is how much you people bitch about www.linux.org looking horrible.. but yet.. your os gui looks just as shitty :)
I don't see how this couldn't be an improvement.
You know what I'd like to see? redhat.linux.com, suse.linux.com, slackware.linux.com, and so on. Maybe even debian.linux.com, even though debian isn't really a commercial dist.
-matt
Microsoft REALLY needs to tighten up the standards for their MCAC (Microsoft Certified Anonymous Coward) program! MCAC's who are totally ignorant of anything dealing with Linux can only give Microsoft a bad name, after all.
-- Eric (a user of the "K" Desktop Environment, BTW, which makes Win98 look like a hacked up pile of trash).
Send mail here if you want to reach me.
VaResearch kicks ass! Hope they make the webpage better for linux.org :) Considering that maybe the dudes that do the themes.org pages will be in charge of this!
NaTaS
http://www.mp3.com/pedophagia Check us out! We are only working with Linux now to create our industrial music!
So linux is as stable as NT ay! hehhehe
I will believe it when I see it. MY NT boxes have been running for 2 years straight without a reboot! Can you all say the same with linux. UH ya sure!
Thats a good one.
Anyone else noticed the similarity between the current contents of www.linux.com and www.transmeta.com? I think this is evidence of a shadowy Linux conspiracy. My guess is that their goal is nothing short of world domination. Beware!
LILO boot: linux init=/usr/bin/emacs
Microsoft should close all doors, put thousands
of people out of work, cause a depression, let
the computer business go out of business kiss
everyone goodby. Forget about the year 2000 and
wish everyone well. That it.
where did this come from? and the one before it?
I love that comment from Tom Henkel of the Gartner Group:
"Customers are opting for the Blue Light Special over the Blue Screen Special"
Bwahahhahahahha!
in a row??!!
Remember, there has been no decision! Moreover, if MS loses the appeal process will be endless.
If three or four of these in-a-row defenses of are from MS lackies, I too am DISCUSSED!!!
Look at that homepage! http://www.linux.net/
1. No matter what the standard Linux effort was
like, the web site is good. Admit it.
2. The standard Linux effort was an honest
attempt to do something good. Had it succeeded,
we would really be dragging the other UNIX
systems around. Cool, they need it.
Go see www.linux.com again. It has been updated. I think it's going to look great.
The way this could suck is if they turn it into a
heavy VA-Research site, link it directly to their
own site, or write it up with selling machines in
mind instead of promoting the platform.
That said, I think the folks at VA are probably
froody enough to realize how badly they would suck
if they pulled something like this.
More likely, I think we'll see a professional and
useful page for the newbie or the kernal hacker,
complete with links to the various flavor makers
and project sites.
Anyhow, cool deal (I hope).
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Every year during my review, I just pray the words "slashdot.org" aren't mentioned.
VA folks, if you are reading this and can learn
some lessons on what not to do with this site, go
to www.linux.org.
And ofcourse, kick Fred Van Kempen out ASAP. With
his reputation, Linux.com will not fly far.
Given that VA Research sells boxes based on some of those other architectures, I doubt the site will neglect them too much.
Oh wonderfull! Does this mean we'll finaly have a *decent* web page there? =:)
Seriously though, this is great news, provided
that they follow through with the idea of an
advisory panel from the Linux community.
Thank you, VA Research!
portal.. oh god.. i'd be so pissed if RH took control of it, or if SUSE got it, or if Debian smurfed it or if Slackware sucked it up or if stampede stomped on it.
At least a hardware site would not be biased and let them make a good portal. Though the Intel Alliance makes me get a bit worried about alternative x86 chips and non-x86 platform coverage.
But overall I trust VA research more than any of the other linux hardware companies. Good job guys. Let this be the site i mention to anyone interested in linux. I'm so sick of telling people to go over to linux.org
Hope to see the site up soon! May I suggest a portal like the moz directory effort? Smaller but somewhat like that with lots of linux related links and news articles. We could even make it an community effort! Think about it. Some of us cant code, but can write well! We would help! If it is for linux.
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On the other hand, if they make some pro-Intel, pro-VA site that overtly hawks their stuff, it will backfire.
Do the right thing, VA. Help the community and you will prosper.
Hold it, I thought we went over this already. I don't use Windows 3.1.
As a former NT user I must say that you must be seriously retarded, unless maybe all you do with your two boxes is watch the screen savers. NT is pathetic. It would NOT run stable enough on our web server, weekly reboots after a fresh installation. That's fucking pathetic. We switched to linux, since then we have had NO problems. Have fun paying your Bill, I'll stick with what works the best.
Can anybody say "Microsoft employee forum poster"?
BS. It's not as bad as some people around here claim, but it's poorly organized; not the place you want to send a newbie looking for information. On top of that, it rarely gets updated, and has a poor selection of information.
It isn't like Slashdot, and it shouldn't be like Slashdot.
I agree with you here. Duh - it should be a general purpose, comprehensive information site that doesn't show a bias towards any particular distribution, etc. It should provide useful links to those sites in the Linux community that do provide news and commentary.
It is a site that you can send new users to.
You could, but they'd be turned off pretty quickly. I have yet to find someone who was really impressed by it. And, it has too little information -- and that which it has is poorly organized -- for newbies.
The owner does not deserve such crap for his efforts.
for his efforts, no. However, recently he doesn't seem to have put much effort into that site.
You could not do any better.
I will disagree with you here. I:
- Make well-designed pages and sites
- Organize information clearly
- Can be comprehensive
- Have an eye for design and aesthetics
This is in contrast to the current linux.org. I could do better.The owner even tried to help create some sorely-needed Linux standards.
Bull. The owner tried to make a fast buck. He tried to balkanize the community; he tried to leave the vast majority of Linux users and developers out in the cold by focusing on and limiting it (his "project") to commerical entities. Furthermore, there are standards, and they are being worked on by organizatiions (RedHat, Debian, for example) within the Linux community.
You have done far less.
Let's see, the linux.org guy has put together a crappy site and tried to sew dissent within the Linux community. If I have done less, I have only done good; in reality, I have done more, both in terms of education and contribution.
They used to be called Fintronics a while back.
Would you prefer that name instead?
Anyone know what ever happened to that Guy? He used to be very prominent in the Linux community a few years back, then just sort of disapeared.
Ken
Most cool! Now the linux.com site might finally get a decent webmaster!
;)
Oh, and that final quote from the article is golden
iSKUNK!
Not only do the Linux.Org guy not know how to put
up a reasonable web site, he doesn't like much
input from the Linux community.
If he only let the community contribute stuff to
the site, it would be a whole lot better. Similar
in spirit to Slashdot. But its too late anyway.
Linux.Org is history as far as I am concerned.
Look at http://linux.net/Products/cdroms.htm
They sell a windows95.com cd-rom set and visual basic tools cd
My understanding is that he got into an argument with Linus and others when Linus refused to put a couple of his patches into the kernel, and then he went off and sulked rather than hang around and work it out.
There was a thread on the Kernel list about him a few weeks back. You might want to go to DejaNews and check it out.
-- Eric
Send mail here if you want to reach me.
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=8^
it might cause VA to change their name. I mean can you think of a more unmarketable name than VA Research? Of course, now that everyone knows VA Research, and they have more or less established a brand name, I doubt they'll change. But I still thing VA Research has got to be one of worst names their could be for a computer company.
:-)
Yes, I know there are bigger things to complain about, but that's never stopped me before
Although Microsoft maybe guilty of all the things that it has been accussed of, I only hope that the end result means higher prices to consumers. This would defeat the orignal purpose of the antitrust law. It would help business (Netscape, Sun, etc) and hurt the average consumer. These companies should try to develop a better product, beat Microsoft at its own game, rather than cry and run to Uncle Sam.
linux.com:
;)
<!-- There are no secret messages in this web page. -->
transmeta.com:
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I think Linus' wife maintains both pages.
-- Liquor up front, poker in the rear.
They're not even in Virginia! Why the VA?
I remember my first IBM pc back in 1982 and I was amazed at the power of it. Those guys at microsoft gave me so much commands and things I could with it, I was filled amazement. MY apple2 was much more primpitive and it was out competed by dos. Those guys at microsoft invented the idea of personal computers and it shows through their products. Microsoft invented the first program ever on a pc so dont give me that trash about Ms contributing little if not nothing for the desktop revolution. Infact Bill wrote it himself. Microsoft basic! Bill also wrote ms dos all by himself and made the best os in the world that still lies in the code of windows so it has to be good for running on 90% of computers right! Even though msdos is based on qdos, the code was totally rewritten by Bill because qdos was written for a different machine and it was awefull but Bill saved it. Wow those guys are smart. I would given a medal if I could. Thank you Bill for personal computers. Thank you for great products that make linux, lotus suite, corel office look laughable in comparison. You always have a home on my machine.
Please tell me that microsoft did not discover slashdot. Pease tell me that this wonderfull web site is gone forever and replaced with quotes from the ms marketing department
"Never stick an electrical appliance down your pants." -Tim Allen
Posted by Roland95:
I agree. This could be really great for the linux platform, and I don't think that it will turn into a VA site. Especially with the LINUX community advisory board!
We'll just have to wait and see! (now we have yet another domain from which we will be able to get linux stuff.)
So...I go to linux.com and that's what I see. Someone should put a watch on it and tell /. when it goes live. *** Enter /. effect ***
Troll boy? Did i ever say i used windows? I currently use MacOS 8.5 and BeOS r4
hey hey Eric, what about Linux Hardware partnering up with a company like PowerLogix to develop, market, support and kick around
som kind of upgrade bundle with PowerPC CPU(s) and OpenFirmware?
The PPC750 550MHz gives a decent integer score of 1736KK/sec running latest rc5des (shivers)
Where did the Toshiba story go??
Do you people read the articles? They have secured the domain name from Fred Van Kempen. Also, they are quoted as saying it will be a general purpose linux info site. This is an excellent thing, because previously linux.org was the one most people went too, but joe windows doesn't know about the org domain, so he would try com. Anyway, a little competition never hurt anyone. Best of luck to VA Research. Its awesome to see how much Augustin is putting behind Linux and the variety of stuff he supports now. Perhaps in the end it was better for him to get out of Yahoo and start VA Research.
My Slashdot account is old enough to drink...
The Glorious Meept is hurt.
Hurt. Hurt that his slapdash friends would be unfaithful. After all the stuff we've been through, you're seeing another troll.
A poem:
I may be fat,
But at least I'm
The end.
MEEPT!!
Why is the X-Files theme stuck in my head all of the sudden? Why do I feel like I should be subscribing to alt.paranoia? Watch out for the black helicopters! AAAH!!!!!
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Every year during my review, I just pray the words "slashdot.org" aren't mentioned.
Now all we need to do is get VA Research to buy Linux.org! Linux.org is a poor looking site and sucks!
<head>
<title>
Not quite the Linux.com web page
</title>
</head>
<!-- This web page does not have anything sneaky in it. -->
<body>
This web page is not here yet.
</body>
</html>
fish and pipes
I could swear that you sound like the owner guy
himself.
Well, it's a kind of drug in _Neuromancer_.
Definately the worst computer company name that comes to mind. Who wants something that's "micro" and "soft"?
Think about it.
I believe what Microsoft is doing is fair and in the interest of the consumer. The only case the government has is several companies that failed to make a decent product, failed to make a competing OS, and want retribution.
Microsoft should move its operations outside of the US, pull out its assets out of the US economy. I promise you Canada, England, or even Australia will take Microsoft with open arms.
The government shouldn't put its nose where it doesn't belong. This trail is disgusting.
There is one simple reason that Microsoft is so successful, and that's because it make the best software. PED! When was the last time that the government did anything that was good for the consumer?
I've have two NT boxes running steady for over two years now, and I haven't yet had to reboot them for *any* reason. What other OS can make that claim? Linix? Sure, right!
If people would just stop whining about successful companies like Microsoft and Intel, and let innovative and bright people continue their work, all of us would be much better off. Or would you rather buy software written by the Justice Department?
Thanks.
- Sam Ruby
..did this just become a M$ rah-rah post or have the kidz from Redmond been allowed access to the web? Either way, time to /ignore those idiotic postings and stick with the main topic: VA and linux.com Let's hope they make an end-all site for the Linux community. It would be nice.
"Klaatu, verada, necktie!" -Ash
asinus sum et eo superbio
asinus sum et eo superbio
in omnibus veritas
And, in my opinion, it is a terrible site. Even since the update, the site is poorly organized, updated infrequently, low on information and just generally makes Linux look bad. And I remember the layout they had before this current one...it was even worse and their background didn't even TILE properly. Not even close. It looked wretched. Some college kids run better done sites out of their dorm rooms.
Plus the guy who runs it is the same one who tried to start up that "standard Linux" movement that got everyone so fired up.
I'm glad VA has linux.com . I expect that they will use it well...
--Lenny
I think I'll deny your ass, but thanks for asking.
Bill is a gay faggot... ... shit... MS will crumble but onle ..... SHIT...
he stole dos from some poor dumb motherfuckers
and added a few things along with a buddy of
his which was hired by MS... MS is gay too..
"not that there's anything wrong with that..."
FUCK
in the business. not untill your boy-joe and
girl-jane can put in a CD and play a game on
Linux will be a desktop owner...
linuxnewbie.com
www.linux.com == 209.81.8.239 == u239.varesearch.com
But:
Registrant:
Linux/PRO Intl Support Group (LINUX2-DOM)
Hoefbladhof 27, 2215DV VOORHOUT
NL
Domain Name: LINUX.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Van Kempen, Fred N (FNV) waltje@INFOMAGIC.NL
+31 (35) 6980059 (FAX) (520) 526-957 (FAX) +31 (35) 6980215
Record last updated on 17-Oct-96.
Database last updated on 28-Feb-99 14:55:00 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.INFOMAGIC.NET 165.113.211.2
EARTH.NJCC.COM 165.254.117.51
NS1.WEST.NET 205.254.224.4
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Every year during my review, I just pray the words "slashdot.org" aren't mentioned.
Could be a hint.
Could just be a lack of imagination.
My hope is that Microsoft, should they lose, will pack up shop and move operations to Japan where they're dying for a boost to their economy. This will show the IDIOTIC MEDDLING government bastards that they should not mess around with successful American companies. It will never happen, but it would be nice.
! !!!!
After O.J. and Clinton getting off scott free and now Microsoft be punished for success, I am DISGUSTED to call myself an American. D-I-S-G-U-S-T-E-D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like the only thing your NT box is doing is sitting there wasting electricity. Do your power company (and the rest of us) a favor and turn it off. Also, if you've been up for more than 2 years straight without a reboot, then you must not have upgraded or applied any of those service packs, so you're a sitting duck just waiting to be owned by some script kiddie. Or, you are a liar. I wonder which one it could be?
Seriously though, this is great news, provided
that they follow through with the idea of
governing it through an advisory panel from the
Linux community.
Thank you, VA Research!
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"The Internet interprets censorship as damage,
Please note that the concept of a "limited liability corporation" is government intervention in a major sense of the word. A thousand years of common law holds that the owners of a business are liable for all debts and deeds of that business. The limited liability corporation, a concept that dates back only to the 1870's and which is sustained only due to major government intervention, totally destroys that concept. The owners (shareholders) of limited liability corporations are NOT held liable for the deeds and debts of the business that they own.
In short, Microsoft (and all other limited liability corporations) is the result of a major government intervention into our economy. If you say that "government should keep out of business", you should also be against the government granting "artificial person" status to limited-liability corporations. After all, if government keeps out of business, they should keep out of business in ALL respects -- including areas that benefit current businesses (such as limited liability "artificial person" status for corporations).
-- Eric
Send mail here if you want to reach me.