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Star Wars Retrospective in NY Times
Lazy sunday Afternoon? Not for me. I'm fixing and scrubbing
code clean (it almost doesn't look like a certain italian
dinner in parts now). But If you need a break, (I do!) check out
the link that
desslok sent us:
its a nifty Star Wars Retrospective
over at the NY Times. Its quite excellent. Articles all the
way back to 1971. Worth a read for any self respecting SW
fan.
or the usual login: cypherpunks pass cypherpunks combo
its perfectly safe, i swear!
would i lie to you?
i mean sure they talk about how darth vader
was beaten as a child for his homosexuality, but
i mean that wasnt too big a part of the movie anyways
Is it just me or does this site require cookies to log in?
Does anyone else find this as stupid as I do? I refuse to enable cookies for these people.
you are mispelinig it.
Yup. Definitely needs cookies.
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/. rulez. Rob is a god.
Rob, have you learnt much from your cookiefied user preferences yet? I might use it more myself if you did, (apart from the bother of logging in). but maybe people here wouldn't mind trading a little security for a little less invasiveness. Most people are relatively anonymous and don't have reputations to protect.
I'll try editing your weirdo cookie, wonder what will happen?
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Nah.
Unix is just dandy:
/dev/null /dev/null /dev/null /dev/nulb /dev/null
/dev/null. With symbolic links you can attain almost as much privacy, and all the info will be gone on your next session.
cd ~/.netscape
ls -acl | grep ">"
lrwxrwxrwx 1 lrw016 cdp 9 Sep 17 1998 cache ->
lrwxrwxrwx 1 lrw016 cdp 9 Oct 2 08:57 cookies ->
lrwxrwxrwx 1 lrw016 cdp 9 Dec 29 06:13 history.dat ->
lrwxrwxrwx 1 lrw016 cdp 9 Jan 6 01:41 history.db ->
lrwxrwxrwx 1 lrw016 cdp 9 Sep 17 1998 history.list ->
the "/dev/nulb" is necessary for my history, as netscape no HPUX will complain if it is
Still, I hate cookies too. A lot.
Yes, they are lame.
An example of a good site that uses cookies: http://www.amazon.com/ -- I have cookies disabled yet I can still shop for books. Cookies are optional, as they should be.
An example of a site that has it's head up it's ass: http://www.nytimes.com/ -- Does not work without cookies.
When will these people learn that portability is important?
How do you do this with Lynx? I can't find the damn file to symlink. Or does it just throw them away by default?
I never gave it much thought with lynx. I believe all data is kept int .lynx (isn't it?) just do a:
strings * | grep -i cookie
first to see if the cookie keyword is in any of the files and then once you find it, narrow it down, find the one files, and NUKE IT. Of course, you do have the source, and I believe you can set lynx to accept cookies selectively based on URL, a feature I wish netscape had. If I had more time, I'd work on the mozilla project.
When they started spamming, I was outta there. Besides, if you check your local bookstore, you will realize that Amazon isn't really that much better, and often more expensive. The Moral Animal cost $15 from a TRAIN STATION bookstore and just as much from Amazon.
Amazon is doomed. I'd rather invest in Yahoo! despite the fact that Yahoo's material assets liquidated would add up to $1.95.
Give him a break. If he didn't like the movie he didn't like the movie. Was he suposed to lie and say he loved it when he didn't. I'd rather read a critic with whom I disagree but who has his oun mind than someone who writes what he thinks you want to hear.
BTW, critics always seemed to slam Harrison Ford until he made Witness.
AMEN.. I thought I was alone in my shunning of all media influences in order to be a "virgin" to the prequels, the way I could never have seen A New Hope. But you can relax, there is nothing there that will ruin it for you. IF you're that worried, you can use lynx to read it :)
He didn't like Empire?
Yeah, well Vincent Canby can suck my Canby.
Lynx doesn't save cookies. It keeps them in memory or a temporary file (I dunno which) until you quit. Then they're gone.
>Notice in the pre-quel trailer that the boy has a >50/50 polyester/cotton blend backback (including
>plastic buckle staps, etc; the kind that you'd >buy for $20) but his closes are rugged knit >cotton, ie circa 1800's
>peasant clothes. A bit of a blooper
I fail to see how this is a "blooper" when that scene is set on a planet that has droids, anti-grav speeders, interstellar starships and about 500 different alien cultures mingled together.
I tried making a new login of "kissmyass". Didn't work. Said I had to use "kissmyass15". Guess there's at least 14 other people who dislike having to log in at least as much as I do. :)
The local bookstores here in L.A. don't carry shit when it comes to technical books. I go to Borders or Barnes & Nobles and I find myself staring at hundreds of copies of "Word for Dummies" and "The Internet Yellow Pages." I'm lucky to find one or even two O'Reilly books, and it's usally "Learning Perl" or something (not that there is necessarily anything wrong with perl).
The only place I can find the books I want are at Amazon and probably other online bookstores (which I havn't used since Amazon has done a good job so far).
Lynx has always been a great browser. I wish NS was more like it.
Oh yeah? I tried "fuckyou" and had to settle for "fuckyou206"
I even enabled cookies for these bastards and it still doesn't work. It just takes me back to thier login page. Over and over. Anyone else have this problem?
Anyone have a mirror of the pages on a friendlier server?
Thanks.
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yoda is still, as he was before, a puppet.
Gotta butt in here. Hamill as a screen actor is sub-par. But you put him in front of a mike and GREAT things happen. He voiced the Joker in Mask Of The Phantasm. He played about five different voices in one of my favorite computer games, Full Throttle, including that of the villain. The man is a TALENTED voice actor, who for some reason dries up in front of a camera.
I looked through the times piece today, and my fear was reinforced... There is a picture of natalie portman with some alien standing beside her. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like an alien: it looks like a blank space with a phototraced alien awkwardly smushed in. I saw the CG Jabba too, and to me, it looks stupid. I know foam rubber isn't the height of nerd-cool, but at least it displaces air and actors can look at it.
I have a hunch this movie will suck. Flame all you want, but I know alot of you have the same sinking feeling in your gut. Uh-oh, someone finally said it. Yes, call me pessimistic, call me flame-bait...
Not cyBerpHunks, cyPHerpunks
And in recent versions, you can even check and cull your cookie jar (by pressing =, I think...). Pretty spiffy. And it's smarter about asking for confirmation that either NSC or MSIE: you can choose "yes, allow all cookies from this domain" and "no, forbid all cookies from this domain" instead of just yes/no each time, if you like.
Mind the Gap
Oh yeah, anyway, The Corruptor was good. Lots of explosions and stuff. And it has a cool car chase. See it if you like that kind of stuff.
You're making a typo. :)
The login is cypherpunks/cypherpunks, not cyberpunks/cyberpunks. (Think crypto and it helps ;)
I must admit, I found the pre-Star Wars-release articles quite funny when they tried to describe "Force", "Jedi Knight" and "wookie."
- I'm a cynical optimist [laughs].
Wow... that's me that is. First time I've seen someone else describe themselves that way. Must have happened somewhere though...I'm a cynic who has hope for the human race, although I look at human folly and sometimes I get very frustrated.
Obviously, everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, but if I were recruiting film critics for my paper, I would probably test them to see how they rate The Empire Strikes Back relative to Star Wars. If anyone shared the views of that NYT guy, he/she would have a hard time convincing me that he/she wasn't clueless.
Ryano - film buff, Star Wars fan, in that order.
Canby's job was to review the film as a film (and not as a link between SW and Jedi). And face it, Empire was just a link between SW and Jedi. Criminy, do you think that anybody's going to be 100% satisfied with a Star Wars movie if the rebels don't get to blow up the Death Star? 8-)
In the Star Wars series, Han Solo isn't supposed to grok what's going on. That, of course, plants Harrison Ford squarely in B-movie territory.
And Canby did say that Hamill may one day be a movie star. (He caught adamwestitis instead, but that's not such a bad thing either (unless you want to be a Shakespearean actor).)
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Ok, I just read the review of Empire Strikes Back. I can't believe he hated it! He gave a glowing review to Star Wars too.
Now, what I'm wondering is, is it still within the realm of common decency to send him a little email about what I think of his review?
I better read his review of Jedi first I guess...
Hey, I'd forgotten about that! See, now that I can respect. Randall (aka GWNICR) is obviously a thinking man and has some genuine concerns for the working spaceman.
Well, the article from 1987 reminded me again of Lucas' Willow, which I had completely forgotten. Lucas *can* make lame movies. We'll just have to wait and see on "The Phantom Menace". I think I'll let our heroic CmdrTaco go first and report back.
Yes, the story is strong in these articles, hmm. Fascinating, yes. Read it you must, if you wish to know the future. Starwars is calm, peaceful.
Buy the ticket, take the ride.
It's clearly divided between prequel stuff and the old stuff, so you won't have to worry about clicking on the wrong link. There is an image there which I believe is from the episode 1 poster though.
Search first, ask questions later.
Login: slashdot_effect pass: slashdot be sure to send flames to the webmaster for having to "login" to view anything.
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I thought, from the scenes in the trailer, that Mickey Rooney was playing Yoda.
Okay, I got Linux installed. So where's the free beer everyone keeps talking about??
I don't mind if the cg is a bit bad. You will only notice is much in the still pictures, in the moving pictures it is a lot better ( I saw a pic of the battle droids in wired (I didn't buy it but I'm sure that there are some who bought it for that pic, it was two pages wide), but you could tell were the droids stopped and the real image began (not to lucas for future: droids have mas as well and when they stand on grass they will depress it instead of floating above it). But that's not what I think will be bad.
From what I've heard the acting of that boy (anakin (sp)) is really bad. The boy sucks, he's worse that mccalley calkin (sp; and I don't care). I just hope that the majority of the movie has more scenes with the true jedi's.
Oh, btw: Notice in the pre-quel trailer that the boy has a 50/50 polyester/cotton blend backback (including plastic buckle staps, etc; the kind that you'd buy for $20) but his closes are rugged knit cotton, ie circa 1800's peasant clothes. A bit of a blooper there...
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From what I've heard the acting of that boy (anakin (sp)) is really bad. The boy sucks, he's worse that mccalley calkin (sp; and I don't care). I just hope that
the majority of the movie has more scenes with the true jedi's.
Of course, you realize that his acting has to be bad, to match Mark Hamill's. I just hope my dream of playing Anakin in the sequels comes true.
Flame Away!!
See, what I think is great is stuff like Clerks:
Guy whose name I can't remember:"I don't know, I liked Empire."
Dante: "WHAT? What about Jedi?"
GWNICR: "Well, y'see, in Star Wars, you had the death star all finished. Nothing but storm troopers and empire types on the thing. So when Luke blows it up, it's like 'great!'"
Dante: "Yeah, so?"
GWNICR: "So in Jedi, the death star wasn't finished. I mean, there must have been all kinds of independent contractors and so on working on the thing. Guys with families and stuff. So when they blow it up..."
I can't remember the rest.
Anyway. What I found funny about the review was the comment that he could imagine Mark Hamill being a big star, but not Harrison Ford.
Ah, grasshopper, you seem to have a lack of understanding. People generally do not remember movie critics.
I read enough of his review of jedi. Lets leave him hanging from a fire escape.
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--------------- "Well HELLO MR FANCY PANTS! I've got news for you bub, you ain't leadin' but two things, Jack, and
a great article. points out (hopefully, for the last time), that SW isn't science fiction, but more akin to mythology or a fairy tale.
his vision for this film promises to make it great. although they help, i think he could tell this story without any special effects (i think they are called books?), and it would still be great.
i plan to enjoy the countdown, and suspend disbelief, and to fight the tempation to critize.
not really.
in the article, lucas correctly points out, that the special effects aren't going to be the deciding factor for this movie; that's not what it is about.
hell, i thought "Wing Commander" looked like it had good special effects, but I don't think anyone is rushing out to see that movie more than once.
by todays standard, the orginal SW's special effects are bad, and I will watch that movie ten times before I would go see a newer movie with better special effects, like "Independence Day".
plus, i think the special effects are going to be incredible...
Wow. That's a LOT of stuff to read. This will keep me up all night. *grin*
== I am not Me.
is: http://www.nytimes.com/library/film/061580empire.h tml
I'm trying to imagine a worse fate than being known for ages at That Guy
Who Panned 'The Empire Strikes Back'. The guy who pointed out that it was
'nice and inoffensive,' although 'not, by any means, as nice as Star Wars.'
The guy who claims that the only redeeming feature of this boring and
apathetic film is Yoda. The guy who describes Harrison Ford as 'cheerfully
nondescript,' but assures us that Mark Hamill will one day become a real
movie star.
user: cyberphunks
pwd: cyberphunks doesn't seem to work.
Or am i making a typo?
Does this page have anything to do with the prequels? Like some other people, I refuse to have anything to do with the prequels until they actually come out. I want my prequel experience to be 100% fresh, new, different, and exciting, so I'm wondering whether this page is safe for me to read.
You're a suburbanite.
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This is really cool. The old articles are great!