First we get news that Microsoft was recently acting all Mac Happy, and now Sun is acting Mac Happy. My, my, my, but these coincidences of timing in the software world never cease to boggle the mind!
H. Sebastian Christ, no wonder Debian is going downhill! "X Strike Force" couldn't get much nerdier, could it? It makes me think that Debian has lost mind share not because of Gentoo, Ubuntu, etc., but rather because the 14 year-old boys that used to work on it have discovered girls (or other boys) and/or moved out of their parents' basement.
Yeah, you view the authors as vandals, but you'll try to help get them a mention on Slashdot. That will surely discourage them from trying any such vandalism in the future!
Good thinking, Mr. Morality.:P
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The fact that Nature is bringing us this robot story?
You don't HAVE to set up your USE variables. I guess that part of installation is so tedious for me because I do try to go in and address most of them.;-)
Usually when someone comes in to the forums with an off-the-wall bug that no one else seems to have, compiler flags are the first thing checked.
But really, the compiler flags aren't that big of a deal, I don't think. And they will become even less of one as GCC 3.x gets better.
One of the most tedious (in my opinion) steps in installing Gentoo is setting up your "USE" variables. Portage uses your USE variables to determine what options to include/exclude when you install a new piece of software. And since this is source, that means compiling the software.
Say I install an app that can be compiled with KDE and/or GNOME support. I'm a KDE bigot;-), so I have "kde -gnome" in my USE variables. So when I type "emerge foo" it will parse my USE variables, and run./configure with the appropriate commands to build the app with the options I want it to.
Now, if there is an app that I'm installing that flat out won't run without GNOME, Portage assumes that since I want the app, I want the necessary GNOME components for supporting it. It will then download & compile said GNOME components prior to installing the app in question.
Portage also will let you set CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS, that it uses for compiling most packages. Some really delicate apps (glibc, OpenOffice, etc.) have the flags stripped and set to something sensible before compiling, but most will run gcc with the flags you specify.
I would guess people on Gentoo get into more trouble with . . . *ahem* . . . overly-agressive compiler flags than with wacked out "USE" settings.
How do you boycott a product that nobody is using, anyway?
Does SCO even care that they:
Look like big, broke whiny crybabies
Are shooting themselves in the feet, knees, hips, spines, etc. and can kiss any business (save for the Rambus business model) goodbye for the rest of their pitiful existence??
I hope IBM bitchslaps them. Litigiously speaking, of course.
Shelbyville kid: YOU'RE named Milhouse? Milhouse is my name, too! Milhouse: But I thought I was the only one. (they hug) Milhouse: This is what it souns like . . . when doves . . . cry!
Good essay, points well made, but you forgot to state your Hypothesis. I'm sorry, but I just can't give you an A for such a blatant oversight. Please try to stay focused on your work.
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Here in Indiana, we have the BMV. Yes, that's right. It's the Bepartment of Motor Vehicles.
. . . because Indiana is fucktarded in a lot of ways, that's why!
Oh, come on don't you spoil our neat little flamefest based on mere guesswork and Pro-Apple bias with your boring and irrelevant facts, please. ;-)
First we get news that Microsoft was recently acting all Mac Happy, and now Sun is acting Mac Happy. My, my, my, but these coincidences of timing in the software world never cease to boggle the mind!
Who needs to be burdened by facts, when you can get sensationalist and have /. accept your story? :-P
H. Sebastian Christ, no wonder Debian is going downhill! "X Strike Force" couldn't get much nerdier, could it? It makes me think that Debian has lost mind share not because of Gentoo, Ubuntu, etc., but rather because the 14 year-old boys that used to work on it have discovered girls (or other boys) and/or moved out of their parents' basement.
"X Strike Force," indeed! Yeesh!
Do you really want to know early that you have Alzheimer disease, as there is no effective treatment yet?
Sez you! I brush twice daily with a brainpaste that inhibits plaque development!
Do you deep-fat fry those, or are they baked?
Back in my college days in Springfield, the alleged motto for Drury was "Pay your fees, get your B's!"
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Damn kids coming in wanting to borrow my damn stapler. They're worse than stray dogs.
Yeah, you view the authors as vandals, but you'll try to help get them a mention on Slashdot. That will surely discourage them from trying any such vandalism in the future!
:P
Good thinking, Mr. Morality.
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The fact that Nature is bringing us this robot story?
MmMmmmm . . . irony.
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What's Magneto doing on a horse? . . . in a dress, no less!
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You don't HAVE to set up your USE variables. I guess that part of installation is so tedious for me because I do try to go in and address most of them. ;-)
Usually when someone comes in to the forums with an off-the-wall bug that no one else seems to have, compiler flags are the first thing checked.
But really, the compiler flags aren't that big of a deal, I don't think. And they will become even less of one as GCC 3.x gets better.
One of the most tedious (in my opinion) steps in installing Gentoo is setting up your "USE" variables. Portage uses your USE variables to determine what options to include/exclude when you install a new piece of software. And since this is source, that means compiling the software.
;-), so I have "kde -gnome" in my USE variables. So when I type "emerge foo" it will parse my USE variables, and run ./configure with the appropriate commands to build the app with the options I want it to.
Say I install an app that can be compiled with KDE and/or GNOME support. I'm a KDE bigot
Now, if there is an app that I'm installing that flat out won't run without GNOME, Portage assumes that since I want the app, I want the necessary GNOME components for supporting it. It will then download & compile said GNOME components prior to installing the app in question.
Portage also will let you set CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS, that it uses for compiling most packages. Some really delicate apps (glibc, OpenOffice, etc.) have the flags stripped and set to something sensible before compiling, but most will run gcc with the flags you specify.
I would guess people on Gentoo get into more trouble with . . . *ahem* . . . overly-agressive compiler flags than with wacked out "USE" settings.
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It looks like people use a combination of "emerge inject category/package" and the "DO_NOT_COMPILE" flag to customize their KDE installations.
;-)
For example, say you don't want kdeedu when you go to install KDE 3.1.1:
emerge inject kdebase/kdeedu-3.1.1
Then Portage thinks "kdeedu" is already installed, so it won't compile/install it when you "emerge kde."
For further "granularity" within the different KDE groups, you can do something like:
DO_NOT_COMPILE="knode ksirc kppp korn" emerge kdenetwork. Then, as you might expect, it will build kdenetwork without the specified programs.
This was all ripped off from this thread from the ever-helpful Gentoo forums.
Does SCO even care that they:
I hope IBM bitchslaps them. Litigiously speaking, of course.
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Shelbyville kid: YOU'RE named Milhouse? Milhouse is my name, too!
Milhouse: But I thought I was the only one.
(they hug)
Milhouse: This is what it souns like . . . when doves . . . cry!
I can't believe they left that one off. :P
I agree with the person above. It seems they felt obligated to include too many "newer" episodes.
Oh well. Their website, their list, I guess.
Dude, mod me down, no one ever read this, I don't care. YOU win points for using the phrase "gaping maw" in your post.
Kewl.
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Good essay, points well made, but you forgot to state your Hypothesis. I'm sorry, but I just can't give you an A for such a blatant oversight. Please try to stay focused on your work.
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"My vote for Ralph Nader will send this country a powerful message: Bush is a bad president."
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Is that what makes the sky look purple sometimes?
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Cheap: Galileo thermometer
Midrange: Handspring Visor Deluxe with the digital camera, 64 MB MP3 player, universal IR remote, and GPS receiver Springboard modules
Expensive: Top o' the line, pimped out Athlon system, with a flat panel display. Or a Porsche. Whichever.
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That is, in my humble and not-so-learned opinion, a trough of hog-wash.
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Besides, do you think that the file manager in Windows is any smaller, if you add upp all the components/com objects/whatever it probably requires.
That's the crappiest justification I've heard in quite some time.
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