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SPL wrote in with a link to E! Online's Episode II rumours Interesting ideas; it seems almost certain
that Obi-wan and Mace Windu will have larger parts. DiCaprio as Anakin? Darth Maul's clone? I think I'll be happy as long as Jar Jar doesn't return.
This is a dialogue by Luke "Starkiller" on page 30 of the old George Lucas Jan 28, 1975 script for Star Wars.
Luke Starkiller
"As the Republic spread throughout the galaxy, emcompassing over a million worlds, the GREAT SENATE grew to such overwhelming proportions that it no longer responded to the needs of it's citizens. After a series of assassinations and elaborately rigged elections, the Great Senate became secretly controlled by the Power and Transport guilds. When the Jedi discovered the conspiracy and attempted to purge the Senate, they were denounced as traitors. Several Jedi allowed themselves to be tried and executed, but most of them fled into the Outland systems and tried to tell people of the conspiracy. But the elders chose to remain behind, and the great Senate diverted them by creating civil disorder. The Senate secretly instigated race wars, and aided anti-government terrorists. They slowed down the system of justice, which caused the crime rate to rise to the point where a totally controlled and oppresive police state was welcomed by the systems. The Empire was born. The systems were exploited by a new economic policy which raised the cost of power and transport to unbelievable heights........................During one of his lessons a young PADAWAN-JEDI, a boy named Darklighter,(Anakin??) came to know the evil half of the force, and fell victim to the spell of the dreaded Bogan(Sith??). He ran away from his instructor and taught the evil ways of the Bogan force to a clan of Sith Pirates, who then spread untold misery throughout the systems. They became the personal bodyguards of the Emperor. ( Mandalorian red guards???) The Jedi were hunted down by these deadly Sith Knights. With every Jedi death, contact with Ashla grows weaker........."
Looks pretty clear about what he intended to happen in Episodes 2 and 3. This is located at Starwarz.com
It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off
This isn't all that complicated. Really.
II opens with a strenous training scene with a 20 something year old Anakin atacking a hard pressed Obi-Wan.
After thier excercise, Obi-wan sends Anakin off to ponder his transgressions. Yoda stops by to say, 'I told you so, the kid is bad news'. Obi-Wan insists that he can handle it.
meanwhile, Anakin is cheking in on his little hottie, the Queen. We see his tender side, after seeing the developing dark side.
Cut to a scene of Sidideous/Palpatine (they are the same, honest). He is looking at a playback of Anakin & Obi-Wan, and chuckles ominously. "Excellent, all is procedeing as I have forseen"
Chancellor Palpatine is then breifed on the new Spathi Cloneing technology, recently discovered on the far side of the Republic. He makes arangments for it to be secreted away some place 'safe'."For the good of the Republic, this technology can not be allowed to fall into the wrong hands."
Anakin & Padme are married (they elope, okay). They take a trip to Tantoneie (Whatever) to visit Anakin's Mom. Sidieous, still observing Anakin closely, aranges for his 'temptation' to the dark side to happen here. At some point, we get the honeymoon scene where Anakin knocks the Queen up. (we find out at the end of the movie, and in the III we find out it's twins).
Meanwhile, Obi-Wan relizes the huge mistake he has made letting Anakin out of his site, and tracks him down. But, alas, it is too late. Palapatine has already brought him over to the dark side. While defending him self from the enraged Anakin, Obi-Wan causes him to get into a serious, crippling accident. Obi-Wan escape with Padame, to an undisclosed hideout.
We end II with Anakin coming out of a bionics repair shop, with a buttload of 'mods'.
With his new protoge firmly under control, Palpatine gets a large part of the military to side with him, and declares himself emporer.
Episode III opens with the military forces of the republic aranged against each other, Jedi and the old republicans on one side, and The emperor, Darth Vader, and a horde of cheap clones on the other. As the clones have no midi-chlorians, the Jedi prove powerless against them. (they can't sense them at all)
As the emporor consolidates his power, he and vader have a number of kick-ass battles with a stray jedi here and there. Obi-Wan is a general, working with the old guard, but he is crippled by his relaztion that Anakin (now vader) is far stronger than the rest of the Jedi.
vader goes agains the laws of the Sith, and begins training his own protoge, to help him over throw his old Master.
As the movie draws to a close, Yoda and Mace disperse the Jedi. "Live to fight another day."
Yoda retires to dagoba, and kills Vader's Protoge there.
Padme finds a battle weary obi-wan, and extorts a promisses to do all he can to insure the saftey of her son, Luke. Obi-Wan promises to keep him safe from the emporor.
Cut to a scene of Mace Windu standing before the new emporer. "YOU! How could we have been so BLIND" Just as Darth Vader steps from the shadows and cuts him down.
"My master, only a few have escaped us, but they are scattered and weak." says Vadar.
Cut to a scene of Padme being interogated by Vader and Moff Tarkin. "Where are you children!" Padme replies, "I have no children, they were killed by the Empire!". "Oh Anakin, what have you become!" Says Vader, "That name no longer has any meaning for me. Anakin Skywalker died the day you left him to his own devices... TAKE HER AWAY"
III ends with a young luke playing in the sands of tantonee...
Well, thats how I think the story should go!
BB
Generally speaking, digital is vastly more expensive (short-term) than standard film. Yes, digital effects are cheaper than filming stop-motion shots, but those are done completely in a computer. The cameras and associated electronic equipment for filming the real world digitally are absurdly expensive, and not getting any cheaper. Furthermore, they are basically untested- Lucas would be the first to shoot an entire film digitally, and so he would also be the first to discover (and be forced to deal with) any serious shortcomings in the technique.
~luge
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Well, I have a 6 year old who saw the movie and Jar Jar was put in the damn movie just for him, it seems. It made the biggest impression with him out of the whole movie. He had seen the original three movies on video and so was hooked into the whole Jedi scene and really digs Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, but he thought Jar Jar was great.
Me, I'd love to see Jar Jar as a crater.
I take it you didn't see "Trainspotting" before "The Phantom Menace".
It is obvious to me that Qui-Jon left Obi-Wan back at the ship at Tattoine because he was afraid that Obi-Wan would try to score if he made it to Mos Eisley.
The cake is a pie
How in the world could Jar Jar get a larger role? He was in just about every scene in Episode I (even doing nothing but SLEEPING in one scene).
:P
Maybe they should just put a special "Jar Jar Box" in the upper right corner of the screen -- like a TV picture-in-picture. That way, we could watch him through 100% of the film.
Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs.
Funny! I guess every time the Emperor says "Death Star", Mini Maul has to make the little "quote" signs with his fingers. :)
Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs.
A vague rumor I heard: In Episode II, Anakin returns to Tatooine to free his mother, but this is strongly against Obi-Wan's wishes.
Now for my two-cent analysis of it: I can envision a headstrong/overconfident Anakin fearing for his mother, seeing a vision of her in pain, and rushing back to Tattoine to save her, under the protest of Obi-Wan and Yoda. This would echo part of Return of the Jedi, and Lucas likes that sort of thing. I can even see Obi-Wan's attempts to stop him causing a rift between Obi-Wan and Anakin, and I'd say it's likely that someone would be eager to use Anakin's weakness -- his love for his mother -- to gain the young Jedi's trust.
Time will tell.
"No also about it, Lucas said on his recent ILM special that episode II was essentially a love story, or something to that effect. Hopefully that will give Portman more of a chance to shine. "
I will not condone this love affair that was chosen in a committee!
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This is more like the pyschic friends network than anythings tangible. I mean some of the things in there contridicted eachother. Besides, I would rather just see the damned movie than have to listen to some crap that some guy at E! came up with on the top of his head (or her). Anyone else see what I am saying here?
Beau C
"McCallum also indicated that Darth Maul, easily the most popular character in The Phantom Menace, will most likely not return. Internet talk, however, is that Maul will return--as a clone of his bad self."
BUT 1/8TH HIS SIZE!!!!
...is the latest rumour. Little Ricky will set aside his NYPD Blue badge to whoop some Sith and get it on with the comely queen.
May the force be with him.
-- What you do today will cost you a day of your life.
Yeah, I thought I heard a long time ago (before RoTJ, even) that the emperor was a clone. That makes a lot of sense.
Adam Sandler
Drew Carey
Jeff Foxworthy
"If you can crush a mans neck, simply by looking at him -- you might be a Jedi!"
==Television Pilots==
And perhaps we can begin to see Star Wars explore some more pressing issues with the central characters being so young.
In the vein of 90210, Anakin could knock Queen Amidala up while they're both underage and deal with a pending abortion, adoption, or birth. Amidala will be forced to relinquish control of Naboo to become a stay-at-home mom. And, in typical male fashion (according to Hollywood), Anakin will dump her for Brittany -- the local slut.
In the style of Blossom and Party of Five, we could have Anakin explore his new-found bi-sexual desires with Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Meanwhile, Jar-Jar Binks finds himself seduced by the porn-world, producing Naboo's most impressive blue-market videos.Queen Amidala, having become an unemployed, single, teenage mother, will resort to prostitution and fight fruitlessly to fight off her rabid drug-habit. Of course, never able to kick the habit, she is knocked up again when Anakin returns while on the rebound and talks a drunken Amidala into a little nookie (for old-times sake, of course). Nine months later, she gives birth to a crack-baby named Luke. Not wanting to own up to his responsibilities again, Anakin applies to the Navy. Unfortunately, despite their don't-ask-don't-tell policy, his carnal desires are exposed and he is booted out of the service, only to join the Empire.
In the flavor of Moesha, we learn about the danger of gangs and peer-pressure as Anakin is jumped into The Empire and exposed to violence and hate.
And in a very touching scene, derived from many episodes of South Central, Anakin picks up his first light-saber. Of course, the weapon's owner had neglected to keep it in a safe place or install a saber-lock.
And in a heart-warming ending to Episode II, Amidala succumbs to a drug-induced coma and sees dancing wookies, in a rather obviousAlley McBeal-esque rip-off.
Yes, I speak blasphemy!
You must admit, though, that many of us would rather see such ideas as those previously mentioned than anything remotely similar to Episode I again.
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