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LinuxPPC Challenge: Crack the Box and Keep it!

Jeff Carr from LinuxPPC was so amused by yesterday's MS W2k crack challange that he figured he'd play too: By setting up a LinuxPPC box challanging the adept out there to get in... but if you can get in, you get to keep the box! Its a stock LinuxPPC install, and he even left telnet on. The url is crack.linuxppc.org. You must be able to reproduce your entry to win. Have fun.

18 of 161 comments (clear)

  1. NT is the most secure OS by RelliK · · Score: 2

    I can only imagine Microsoft's marketing geniuses saying:

    "Windows NT is the most secure operating system. It has a feature called IntelliCrash, which causes the operating system to crash when it detects high network traffic. Such traffic is always caused by hacker's activities, but, since the system is down, any attempts to break in will be unsuccessful. This innovation puts us years ahead of the competition."

    --
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    If you think big enough, you'll never have to do it.
    1. Re:NT is the most secure OS by moeller · · Score: 2

      Except they wouldn't use the term "crash." Rather, "Temporary Security Enhancement Through Service Restriction" or similar.
      Hard to beat the name "IntelliCrash," though ;-)

  2. Re:This could turn into "King of the Hill" by bmetzler · · Score: 2
    I love the idea, but I think you'd have a hard time finding anybody to host such a beast. Besides supporting what would probably be a huge amount of traffic - and some pretty funky looking packets, you've also got to consider what kind of collateral damage it could cause. Somebody mentioned that the MS test box has had it's DNS servers taken down already...

    Nope, you're wrong. Someone has already hosted many servers just for the intent to be hacked. Check out http://www.happyhacker.org/hwargame.html . Yep, a real life hack that box challenge that never goes away.

    -Brent
  3. Interesting responses so far. by Eric+Lai · · Score: 2

    I find it interesting to see how few people are flaming the LinuxPPC guys. When Microsoft started up their contest, people were extremely quick to crusade their views, many of them with four-letter words and simple sentences with little content.

    Of course, the Linux guys didn't make their web page incompatible with Netscape (or include unnecessary Javascript anyhow)...

    However, look at the situation from another angle--look at how shoddy the crack.linuxppc.org webpage is. Imagine if the Windows site had looked remotely like the LinuxPPC site does. Microsoft would have had a hard time finding enough extinguishers for THAT one.

    Imagine if the Windows guys had posted IP addresses on the main page.

    Do Linux users expect less of themselves? Do they not mind sloppy work? Does this make them feel more comfortable? The LinuxPPC site is definitely not designed to appeal to anyone in a "commercial" sense--is this why it's acceptible?

    In any case, it's good advertising for LinuxPPC I suppose...

    Oh well. I just think it's interesting how much our biases get in the way of logical thought.

  4. You break it, you keep it. by SirSlud · · Score: 4

    Sounds suspiciously like a contest I run everyday when I bike to work. It's called "break the bike lock and keep the bike!".

    SirSlud

    --
    "Old man yells at systemd"
    1. Re:You break it, you keep it. by raistlinne · · Score: 2

      Whiel you're correct, how many stolen bikes do you think are actually recovered every year? If someone actually managed to steal the guy's bike, what are the chances that he'd ever see it again or that the theif would ever be procecuted for it?

      --
      They laughed at Einstein. They laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. -- C. Sagan
  5. Maybe this server will actually be up... by The+Silicon+Sorceror · · Score: 2

    How are you supposed to crack a server that's only running on port 80? And how are you supposed to crack it if it's going on and off like a lightbulb? Somebody swamped microsoft2000test yesterday, then it crashed and they brought up a duplicate, then somebody took out both of the nameservers, then they went back up, but both servers were down...
    Now they've switched nameservers totally, but the site's still out for the count. I think this is a pretty shoddy deal if you ask me.

    --- pinging www.windows2000test.com, please wait...
    --- sending to www.windows2000test.com [207.46.171.196],

    error, ping 1 timed out...
    error, ping 2 timed out...
    error, ping 3 timed out...
    error, ping 4 timed out...
    error, ping 5 timed out...

    --- ping statistics for www.windows2000test.com
    5 packets transmitted, 0 received

    --

    ~ Give me 101 plastic soldiers, and I will conquer the world.
  6. Re:Mistake! Mistake! by Hollis · · Score: 2

    The difficulty is that LinuxPPC R5 comes with all inetd services disbled (for security). So it's not *really* a stock install - Jeff had to make it less secure. I believe the intent is to keep turning on services (like telnetd, which was already enabled) if no one breaks it quick enough.

    Besides, if this server is cracked, then we will have found another hole to patch, which is the point of cracking, right?

    You talk about taking a week to secure a server, but it could be done in a few minutes by turning everything off except Apache (and disable CGI). "Secure" is kind of a tradeoff in that case.

  7. Re:uh.... real nice ...not anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2


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    host-209-214-98-118.sav.bellsouth.net
    host-212.121.137.56.de.colt.net
    host-212.121.137.60.de.colt.net
    host-62.96.13.148.inetservice.de
    host.159-142-112-5.gsa.gov
    host113-sub66.symantec.com
    host178.wbg.logicon.com
    i48-13-45.pdx.du.teleport.com
    indigo3.igpm.RWTH-Aachen.DE
    ip23.boanxr11.ras.tele.dk
    modemcable011.85-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net
    modemcable148.13-200-24.que.mc.videotron.net
    moe.apci.com
    monsoon.ssec.wisc.edu
    ms02-377.tor.istar.ca
    mueata-e1-wan029.citykom.de
    n016.nijmegen.telekabel.euronet.nl
    n1-h254.isgtec.com
    n20057.telekabel.chello.nl
    n23-c209-c149-c50.bs.xlate.ufl.edu
    nas1-03.dialup.neca.com
    nat3.densonreed.com
    nd026094.global.medtronic.COM
    netblk-10-152.netapp.com
    netcom14.netcom.com
    newport32.aiconnect.com
    node181b.a2000.nl
    obsession.logics.de
    onh1-168.twcny.rr.com
    orion.linuxbox.com
    oub.daytontbrown.com
    outbound.seic.com
    p249.n03.fra.access.is-europe.net
    p3E9C1044.dip.t-dialin.net
    p3E9D13FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
    p3E9D1506.dip.t-dialin.net
    p3E9E1275.dip.t-dialin.net
    p3E9E1463.dip.t-dialin.net
    p3E9E78CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
    p3E9E7E5E.dip.t-dialin.net
    p798.as1.adl.dublin.tinet.ie
    pC19F3868.dip.t-dialin.net
    pC19F7E1C.dip.t-dialin.net
    pC19F7FAD.dip.t-dialin.net
    pa1.cantor.com
    packetway.MPI-SoftTech.Com
    pages.sssnet.com
    paix-alg-gw9-51.ncal.verio.com
    panache.ernie.org
    panther.uwo.ca
    paris.ncsl.nist.gov
    pc15.cybersurf.net
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    pc70.escient.com
    pc83010.stofanet.dk
    pcBaby.ACNS.Carleton.edu
    pcbellet.imag.fr
    pdx-0104.dip.internetcds.com
    pec-11-73.tnt1.hh2.uunet.de
    rocco.ngdc.noaa.gov
    rodan.apollotrust.com
    router.ddd.de
    rtowster.state.lib.la.us
    rz111.rz.hs-bremen.de
    rzpc23.uni-trier.de
    s152.paris-90.cybercable.fr
    s4m097.dialup.RWTH-Aachen.DE
    s5n81.hfx.andara.com
    sass.thecomplex.com
    saturn.bt.com
    scuttlebutt.linuxcrypt.com
    sdn-ar-002florlaP077.dialsprint.net
    sdn-ar-002florlaP325.dialsprint.net
    server.penfieldsmith.com
    servo.msln.net
    seven.cvconline.com
    sg20.york.ac.uk
    shell-sprint.global2000.net
    shell.one.net
    shell1.ncal.verio.com
    shl-host1.shl.ca
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    skovarik.engl.iastate.edu
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    swift.ukc.ac.uk
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    tlo40f9.swm.uni-mannheim.de
    tnt1-182.toolcity.net
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    usi-phl-2.usinteractive.com
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    vernetzt.at
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  8. Re:Somehow... by B1FF · · Score: 2

    1 KN0W!!!!!!!!!!!111

    1'M JU5T G0NN4 K33P TRY1N6 2 6U355 R00T PA55W0RD.
    S0 FAR, 1 KN0W IT'5 N0T BLANK, "ROOT" OR "SECRET" BUT 1'LL K33P TRY1NG! 1 W1LL 3V3NTUALLY GU3SS IT!!!!!!111111 1 W1LL TH3N HAV3 A PPC B0X ALL T0 MYS3LF!!!!1
    :WQ
    :wq
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    ALL HA1L B1FF, TH3 M05T 31337 D00D!!!!!1
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    ALL HA1L B1FF, TH3 M05T 31337 D00D!!!!!1

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    ALL HA1L B1FF, TH3 M05T 31337 D00D!!!!!1
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  9. Re:This could turn into "King of the Hill" by schematic · · Score: 2

    I held root on 3 of the games in the happyhacker wargames. I'd really suggest not getting involved though, because it's just a big thing to get people's info to add to the "Hacker information Database" on antionline.com. Yup, that's right, a big list of people involved with hacking that JP shares with the feds.

    Anyhoo, tg0d (www.tg0d.org) is going to be hosting something like this of it's own. We aren't gonna keep a log of people's IP's or anything like that. And if you root a box, it's your as long as you can defend it for. Our games aren't up yet, but we have 5 boxes that are schulded to go up soon. So bookmark www.tg0d.org and come back later for more info.

    P.S. Yeah, our page sucks.. it's not complete yet, we've been busy.

    schematic

    The more you learn, the more you realize how little you know.

    --
    My /. number is leeter than you.
  10. A very good idea to route back the efforts, indeed by arieh · · Score: 3

    Kudos to the PPC guys.

    No better way to detract from the interest that
    Microsoft may have generated than to divert back the efforts of the linux community to a more
    worthy cause - improving the security of our own systems.

    Let's eat our own (dog)food.

    Arieh

    --
    -- We have been doing so much with so little for so long, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.
  11. This could turn into "King of the Hill" by slothbait · · Score: 3
    The comment:
    If you get in, please submit a better webpage than this :)
    ...made me think. Whoever can make it into this box gets to replace the web page with whatever they want...they become owners and get to be "King of the Hill". Plus, if they acquire root access, then they presumably have the power to patch whatever hole they crawled through, making the box that much more secure.

    But what could really prove interesting is if someone tried to break in and steal from the stealer...knocking off the old King and resulting in a King of the Hill, and so on...

    All the while, people would be stress-testing the system. And people will have an ego-incentive to discover security holes because, if they find a way in, they get to be "King of the Mountain" until someone else finds a new way to crack the box.

    Oh what a game this could become!!!
    --Lenny
    1. Re:This could turn into "King of the Hill" by Signal+11 · · Score: 2

      I'm already working on this with a few of my friends. We will post something if/when we can find a ISP with the guts to try it.

      --

  12. Re:uh.... real nice by aqua · · Score: 2

    Pray don't confuse firewalls with security. Machines behind a firewall are only as secure (from the big bad net, assuming they're connected to it, as most firewalls are) as the TCP/IP stacks and services that answer on ports accessible through the firewall and/or its sockets. Most firewalls that I've had experience with have closed off all ports except the ones that people needed to use from the outside -- and half the time that included stuff like pop[23], imap, smtp, etc., and on which the servers answering those ports tended to be way behind on their updates because people had this sense of security lent by the firewall.

    Also, firewalls don't work from people who can emit packets from inside your firewall -- and that's surprisingly easy to do, either through coercion of the firewall box's network stack, compromise of a machine behind the firewall through some open port, or simply being behind the firewall in the first place (as in many corporate environments). If a firewall is configured to permit connections to ports 22 (ssh) and 443 (SSL http), there's no particular reason why an attacker can't arrange for a root shell to answer on one of those ports, and with most network installations no one would be the wiser.

  13. buffer overflows and script kiddies by nickm · · Score: 2

    Unfortunately, the box is partly relying on the fact that all the script kiddies have buffer overflows that were written for Intel Linux. This is one of the arguments I've always had for staying away from a Unix variant that only runs on one platform--homogeneity in systems hardware and software was what made the Internet worm possible.

    When I set up my first Alpha box, I knew nothing about security, but the script kiddies kept failing on account of their buffer overflows just crashing and core-dumping. It bought me some time to get a clue, at least.
    --
    I noticed

    --

    --
    I noticed

    It's getting about time to leave everywhere

  14. slashdot DoS by fdicostanzo · · Score: 2

    isn't just posting this stuff on slashdot a DoS attack? :)

    --
    Synergies are basically awesome, and they're even better when you leverage them. -PA
  15. Re:MS site is down by pmmay · · Score: 3

    They have a status page up. This is only from yesterday's activities:

    8/3/99 Events
    3:22pm - Network connections down due to router failure, possibly related to thunderstorms and power failures in the area

    2:59pm - Network connections intermittently up

    12:40pm - Network connections down due to router failure

    11:02am - Services restarted

    10:47am - Some services failed after reboot

    10:45am - Reboot because the System log was full

    10:30am - Network connections down due to router failure