Not just any company, only companies operating in multiple countries that are just trying to benefit from each countries privileges but not fulfilling those responsibilities.
No. By not handing over the data Microsoft is actually complying with European data protection laws. Following the ruling of the US court would be Microsoft not fulfilling responsibilities in other countries.
Uber doesn't consider itself a commercial transport service. It considers itself a ridesharing service. Presumably it could accept an upper limit of seven passengers.
I don't want to get into the merits of the law or applying it to Uber. I just wanted to point out that there is an argument that this law should not apply to them. It may or may not be a good argument.
Then they can bring their case to court and let the judges decide. But until then they are bound by the decisions of the official body that regulates these matters. This is about people's safety, so they have to follow the safety regulations until it is proven they don't have to.
Germany isn't the Wild West where companies can do as they please and consumer rights be damned.
Bull. As a citizen of Berlin I'm very happy that the government regulates people working in the transport business. I don't want to be driven in a bus or car that doesn't conform to safety regulations or by a driver that has been working so many hours that he is sleepy or otherwise not able to safely bring me from A to B.
And if Uber and Lyft ignore the regulations already in place then they have no business doing business.
Taxpayers like me would also have been out a lot of money to prop up a failing co
Actually: No.
If the government hadn't helped out paying the wages, most of the employees would have been out of work and would be eligible for unemployment pay. So the taxpayers would have payed either way. But this way the company could find a solution for their immediate problem and their employees still had a job.
This is actually a case where the government giving out money helps everybody. But yeah, it's social(ism), so it's bad...
I was looking forward to buy the Lenovo Miix 2 8" with 64 GB and WWAN. But Lenovo decided that people in my market (Germany) don't need it.
So I bought a Dell Venue 8 Pro 64GB/WWAN.
To those who say that the modern UI sucks: On laptops and desktops, I absolutely agree with you. But on a device with real touch support it works, if you're willing to give it a chance. It doesn't work if you immediately start installing desktop apps.
To those that say 8" is a bad size: I disagree. In my opinion, a 10" or 11" tablet is too close to laptop size to make sense, but 8" are about half way between a 4" smartphone and a 12"/13" laptop.
It's not unknown for local entrepreneurs in developing countries to register a trademark they know a big American company is going to need, and then make a nuisance of themselves in local Courts until the Americans pay them to go away.
Why limit that to developing countries? I'm sure the same happens all the time in the US with foreign trademarks that are expected to move to the US. It definitely happend with domain names for well known trademarks and company names.
Ok, so you showed us a definition of the word 'taxi' to suggest that Uber and Lyft fulfil that definition. (I'm sure there are other definitions of taxi, but whatever.) But what you have not shown is that they are LICENSED taxis. And from what I understand that is the crucial point: They don't follow all the same regulations that the states put into place for taxi services.
I here pundits claiming this will not happen, but it is bullshit. It will happen and it is happening already.
Except that every time somebody looks at the actual numbers (facts, you know?) they find that this 'social tourism' doesn't exist as a widespread problem. Just ignoring the facts doesn't change them.
The problem is that the Euro is a monetary union without a proper fiscal (and by-proxy political) union. The US has a strong central government and can fix these imbalances by, amongst other things, spending federal dollars in the states with weaker economies.
Are you aware that the EU does similar things? Strong economies like the UK and Germany pay more into the EU coffers while weaker economies get more than they pay. The EU co-finances development projects and surely a lot mor that I am not aware of.
It is not justice if somebody is been given the death penalty and then gets 45 minutes of torture on top.
There is a reason torture (or cruel and unusual punishment) is not legal. If we treat criminals not better then they treated their victims we're not better than they are.
As a society we should strife to be better than our criminals and not hide our own cruelty behind words like justice and punishment.
But dyn actually stopped sending the renewal emails, thus losing me my addresses, then turning out to have deleted those domains as available options for non-paying customers..
Ah, so it wasn't just me then..
I got the renewal email just a week ago or thereabouts.
The GEMA is the organization who sole purpose of being is to license rights to broadcaster. Thus the statement is correct: The GEMA would be the one who has to granz a license, and no such license was granted (as of now). The statement does NOT say that the GEMA refused to grant a license. That would be a lie, but that's not what YT says.
Digging a little deeper I'm starting to agree with GEMA on this one, it seems the bad press really started when a webcam feed from the Kiev protests was blocked by YouTube's automatic scanner.
No. Youtube shows this message for a long time, the GEMA complains about it for just as long, and the case was file long before the events in Ukraine.
However the message leads everyone to believe they are to blame when it's really YouTube at fault.
I know the German original, and in my opinion it does NOT put the blame on the GEMA.It does NOT say that the GEMA refused to granz a license, but only that no license was given.
Nor is it correct to blame Youtube for not finding an agreement with the GEMA. Neither party are willing to give enough ground for them to meet half way.
Luckily, not everyone lives in the US. Some countries have different laws, even consumer protection laws that are worth that name.
And yes, even companies operating out of the US have to conform to at least some of these laws if they want to do business in Germany/Europe. An yes, they WANT to, because Europe is not an insignificant market.
Unbelievable. Only desperate government bureaucrats could possibly look at administrative fines as a source of income that might save the EU from its financial woes. Excessive taxes, fines, and other means of taking money from the people they are supposed to protect are not the keys to prosperity.
Reality check: Big companies are not the people the European governments are supposed to protect. That are still the citizens of thoes countries. And the rights of those citizens are ignored by Google et. al. So the governments are actually doing exactly what they should: Protect the rights of the citizens.
Yeah. Isn't it strange that the oh so free US has more problems with extremists (Unabomber and the like) than the countries that you say should expect those kind of problems?
Yep, the Euro has its own problems and can't keep its own house clean, so some good old fashioned attacks on a US company will generate enough good will to keep them relevant in the eyes of the people there.
I'm really getting tired of this. You're just plain wrong. European companies are fined just as much for this kind of thing.
The difference is: European companies are used to these laws and break them less often, and fines for EU companies are rarely talked about in the US
Most of the time this is not about 'oh, it's a US company, let's hit them' but about 'US companies think they don't need to care about local law, so the break it at need to be fined'.
There's no way a business can afford a longer warranty period without collecting for it somehow.
Well, they could build their products to last at least 2 years, that should drastically reduce the number of repairs/replacements needed... but I know, that's just a fantasy.
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Not just any company, only companies operating in multiple countries that are just trying to benefit from each countries privileges but not fulfilling those responsibilities.
No. By not handing over the data Microsoft is actually complying with European data protection laws.
Following the ruling of the US court would be Microsoft not fulfilling responsibilities in other countries.
I can't say how things are done in other countries, but I would assume that just like in the US the company follows the laws of that land.
Except that the regulatory body here in Berlin responsible for public transport says they don't.
Uber doesn't consider itself a commercial transport service. It considers itself a ridesharing service. Presumably it could accept an upper limit of seven passengers.
I don't want to get into the merits of the law or applying it to Uber. I just wanted to point out that there is an argument that this law should not apply to them. It may or may not be a good argument.
Then they can bring their case to court and let the judges decide.
But until then they are bound by the decisions of the official body that regulates these matters.
This is about people's safety, so they have to follow the safety regulations until it is proven they don't have to.
Germany isn't the Wild West where companies can do as they please and consumer rights be damned.
Bull. As a citizen of Berlin I'm very happy that the government regulates people working in the transport business.
I don't want to be driven in a bus or car that doesn't conform to safety regulations or by a driver that has been working so many hours that he is sleepy or otherwise not able to safely bring me from A to B.
And if Uber and Lyft ignore the regulations already in place then they have no business doing business.
Taxpayers like me would also have been out a lot of money to prop up a failing co
Actually: No.
If the government hadn't helped out paying the wages, most of the employees would have been out of work and would be eligible for unemployment pay. So the taxpayers would have payed either way.
But this way the company could find a solution for their immediate problem and their employees still had a job.
This is actually a case where the government giving out money helps everybody.
But yeah, it's social(ism), so it's bad...
I was looking forward to buy the Lenovo Miix 2 8" with 64 GB and WWAN.
But Lenovo decided that people in my market (Germany) don't need it.
So I bought a Dell Venue 8 Pro 64GB/WWAN.
To those who say that the modern UI sucks: On laptops and desktops, I absolutely agree with you. But on a device with real touch support it works, if you're willing to give it a chance. It doesn't work if you immediately start installing desktop apps.
To those that say 8" is a bad size: I disagree. In my opinion, a 10" or 11" tablet is too close to laptop size to make sense, but 8" are about half way between a 4" smartphone and a 12"/13" laptop.
East Germany had about 16 million citizen, West Germany about 70.
So it's more like 20% who had experience with the Stasi.
Just saying.
This is the UK, not the EU.
This is about UK law and a British intelligence service, not about the EU.
As far as I know Facebook and Google have their European headquarters in Ireland or Luxembourg or something, which is outside of the UK.
Kinda.
It's not unknown for local entrepreneurs in developing countries to register a trademark they know a big American company is going to need, and then make a nuisance of themselves in local Courts until the Americans pay them to go away.
Why limit that to developing countries?
I'm sure the same happens all the time in the US with foreign trademarks that are expected to move to the US.
It definitely happend with domain names for well known trademarks and company names.
Ok, so you showed us a definition of the word 'taxi' to suggest that Uber and Lyft fulfil that definition. (I'm sure there are other definitions of taxi, but whatever.)
But what you have not shown is that they are LICENSED taxis. And from what I understand that is the crucial point: They don't follow all the same regulations that the states put into place for taxi services.
Freedom of speech does not include the freedom of consequences. Whatever you say can, and often will, have consequences.
Automatic work visas for all the Linux people in Ireland, where the pay is shite, to get jobs in Switzerland?
Did I miss a memo? Since when is Switzerland a member of the EU?
I here pundits claiming this will not happen, but it is bullshit. It will happen and it is happening already.
Except that every time somebody looks at the actual numbers (facts, you know?) they find that this 'social tourism' doesn't exist as a widespread problem.
Just ignoring the facts doesn't change them.
Oh, and just so we're clear: I'm German, too.
The problem is that the Euro is a monetary union without a proper fiscal (and by-proxy political) union. The US has a strong central government and can fix these imbalances by, amongst other things, spending federal dollars in the states with weaker economies.
Are you aware that the EU does similar things?
Strong economies like the UK and Germany pay more into the EU coffers while weaker economies get more than they pay.
The EU co-finances development projects and surely a lot mor that I am not aware of.
It is not justice if somebody is been given the death penalty and then gets 45 minutes of torture on top.
There is a reason torture (or cruel and unusual punishment) is not legal. If we treat criminals not better then they treated their victims we're not better than they are.
As a society we should strife to be better than our criminals and not hide our own cruelty behind words like justice and punishment.
But dyn actually stopped sending the renewal emails, thus losing me my addresses, then turning out to have deleted those domains as available options for non-paying customers..
Ah, so it wasn't just me then..
I got the renewal email just a week ago or thereabouts.
Bodies like the UN aren't even close to democratic ((1 country == 1 vote) != (1 person == 1 vote).
Sure. But is that less democratic or more democratic than (1 country decides, 7 billion people have to live be the decision)?
What you're saying is basically 'the propose solution isn't perfect so we better stay with the current set-up which is even less perfect'.
The GEMA is the organization who sole purpose of being is to license rights to broadcaster.
Thus the statement is correct: The GEMA would be the one who has to granz a license, and no such license was granted (as of now). The statement does NOT say that the GEMA refused to grant a license. That would be a lie, but that's not what YT says.
Digging a little deeper I'm starting to agree with GEMA on this one, it seems the bad press really started when a webcam feed from the Kiev protests was blocked by YouTube's automatic scanner.
No. Youtube shows this message for a long time, the GEMA complains about it for just as long, and the case was file long before the events in Ukraine.
However the message leads everyone to believe they are to blame when it's really YouTube at fault.
I know the German original, and in my opinion it does NOT put the blame on the GEMA.It does NOT say that the GEMA refused to granz a license, but only that no license was given.
Nor is it correct to blame Youtube for not finding an agreement with the GEMA. Neither party are willing to give enough ground for them to meet half way.
Luckily, not everyone lives in the US.
Some countries have different laws, even consumer protection laws that are worth that name.
And yes, even companies operating out of the US have to conform to at least some of these laws if they want to do business in Germany/Europe. An yes, they WANT to, because Europe is not an insignificant market.
Unbelievable. Only desperate government bureaucrats could possibly look at administrative fines as a source of income that might save the EU from its financial woes. Excessive taxes, fines, and other means of taking money from the people they are supposed to protect are not the keys to prosperity.
Reality check: Big companies are not the people the European governments are supposed to protect. That are still the citizens of thoes countries. And the rights of those citizens are ignored by Google et. al.
So the governments are actually doing exactly what they should: Protect the rights of the citizens.
"There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order." Marginalized people like Neo Nazis* aren't allowed to speak in countries like France and Germany, they know there a minority so voting won't work, and no way that they would be allowed on a Jury. With that in mind it's surprising that we haven't seen more violence out of people like them.
Yeah. Isn't it strange that the oh so free US has more problems with extremists (Unabomber and the like) than the countries that you say should expect those kind of problems?
Yep, the Euro has its own problems and can't keep its own house clean, so some good old fashioned attacks on a US company will generate enough good will to keep them relevant in
the eyes of the people there.
I'm really getting tired of this.
You're just plain wrong.
European companies are fined just as much for this kind of thing.
The difference is: European companies are used to these laws and break them less often, and fines for EU companies are rarely talked about in the US
Most of the time this is not about 'oh, it's a US company, let's hit them' but about 'US companies think they don't need to care about local law, so the break it at need to be fined'.
Solution: Fine them for random stuff for a lot of money.
This isn't random stuff.
Just because the US doesn't know what proper consumer protection and privacy laws are doesn't mean it isn't important.
There's no way a business can afford a longer warranty period without collecting for it somehow.
Well, they could build their products to last at least 2 years, that should drastically reduce the number of repairs/replacements needed... but I know, that's just a fantasy.