Being against islam is as anti-semitic as being against judeism, idiot. Being anti israel is not anti semitic at all. People crying anti semitism when someone critisizes israel makes me sick. It turns the deaths of so many over the last millenium into a cheap political point. You are disgusting and your cheapening of such a major contention in European history is anti-semitic.
umm, I responded to an idiot talking about Hamas shooting Jews on sight - an Isreali right wing fantsy and I responded with a dig about those t-shirts that show that sections of the IDF really are sub human. Oh and I included a reminder that zionists hold a lot of firsts in the development of terrorism, seeing as we're discussing Isreal and not Jews.
This does not mean I think Hamas are innocent, but Isreal isn't the lesser of two evils. If Isreal stopped building settlements on land they don't own, stopped cutting basic supplies for areas they surround and pulled back to within their recognised territory, Hamas would not have been voted in to power in Palestine and it's membership would be tiny.
Hamas radicalism is a symptom and if Hamas was in the Isreali position, they too would be trying on the "we are a responsible modern government trying to deal with these terrorists" line. They are as bad as each other
oh and Hamas don't stand behind pregnant women. come on, think about it for a moment. how big do you think they are, large enough that the only way you could shoot a fighter behind is to target the womb? The shirts I referred to were spcifically celebrating targeting and shooting women and unborn children. If i spin that in the style of the Isreali propaganda which most people seem to be buying, I would say that the IDF's mission is to commit genocide of the Palestinians and, given compulsory national service, all of Isreal is committed to the genocide of the Palestinian people. See how it works?
John Saffran seems to be okay. Tell me, do Hamas fighters distribute shirts with cross hairs on pregnant women and wear them with pride?
Isreal is the perfect lesson in why we must never give in to terrorists and their demands. Let them win once and we justified the means. Now they are a nuclear state with a large segment of the population believing in their "glorious" terrorist propaganda. It may be too late to do anything.
So called "Network Chiropractic" is complete bullshit. The idea that a chiropractor can tap or push on my spine to fix my liver or kidneys is utterly fucking stupid.
Actually, network chiro is very effective for long term results. The prinicipal is that the pushing (in some cases feather light touch) causes your spine to move itself which allows your body to perform adjustments in a gentle way that doesn't involve the crunching you'd usually get with traditional chiro. The way it causes movement is similar to being tickled - areas at the base of the skull and sacrum are most often stimulated to cause unconcious movement.
Now just as some people aren't ticklish while others are, people react to this touch in different ways, and everyone has their own unique response. This means that there is an element of training, both the practitioner training the individual to breathe effectively and respond to the touch, and the patient training the practitioner to understand their particular body. This training can take a long time. A very long time. It gets expensive. Very expensive.
I am being completely serious - it works and works very well. The results are very long lasting because of the strong repetitious training aspect, but over a lifetime I think deep tissue or shiatsu are perhaps better options for dealing with similar complaints if you really want someone to do it to you. If you want the training/self help aspect, yoga or tai chi are cheaper and longer lasting.
All true - and also helped by the fact that chronic pain is one area where the placebo effect is particularly powerful.
Sooooo, let's see... Chronic back pain and headaches...
So chiropractic work manipulates the spine to, among other things, reduce pinching on nerves. So what do you suggest for chronic back pain then? Do you think it more sciency to, for example, prescribe anti-inflamatories that cause liver damage but reduce swelling of areas damaged by pinching along the spine allowing temporary improvement and hoping the spine corrects itself? You can always get a repeat....
Hmmmm. Or do we perhaps MOVE THE FUCKING SPINE BACK THE WAY IT SHOULD BE? But no, that's just a placebo. Like how if my car's stearing is out of alignment, getting a wheel alignment is a placebo. No, go with the drugs because then you can go back and get some other drug to deal with the liver problems and feel safe knowing you are in the hands of a good doctor.
Seriously, claiming a cure for cancer is pretty dangerous and stupid, but claiming that modern our pharmacy and butcher based medicine is the only way of dealing with ahealth problems is just as dangerous and stupid. Chiropractic treatment is effective for a few things where doctors are far worse than useless and a good doctor knows this.
Idiot. This effects routers. My Linux phone, PC and laptop are at no risk from this one. My router would be had I not changed the default password and ensured that remote admin is disabled. Most home windows users use linux in routers - you probably do and don't realise it.
Of course if you use windows on your router, you are either a genius or you truly are an idiot.
So your saying that the post you replied to was a bit like a car with manual transmission where the gear positions are labelled R 2 4 across the top and 1 3 5 along the bottom when in fact the linkages are such that it should be 1 3 5 along the top and 2 4 R along the bottom?
I like the idea of pushing the "Won't somebody think of the children" right back at him. Censorship at the ISP means more people are going to find out how to circumvent it. I have already heard about more methods of circumvention since this debate started than I knew of before.
So this policy is already propergating methods of circumvention. I find abuse of children and particularly young children disgusting and worthy of corporal punishment. Death's too good for them - public skinning alive and salt torture seems about right. Now information on circumvention and evasion is more public and I see Conroy's actions as being largely responsible.
Letter writing to the crazy fanatical Christian groups seems like a good idea to me for a start. Letters to the paper probably wont do much because the fuckwit doesn't actually listen to anyone who has a clue what they are talking about. He does care about votes from the Christian wacko lobby though and, as they respond more to fear and emotive language than logic, I think using the "think of the children" line might work.
I really hope the obviousness that we have just gone from a fascist government to a fascist government causes more moderates to wake up, realise that the two party system is bullshit and give the Greens a go. If you read their economic policies, they actually make a lot of sense. The only trouble they have is the old "they are a minor party so a vote for them is a vote wasted" which is a self perpetuating pile of crap. If they held balance in the senate, things like this would never get through. Balance in the house of reps could gives us genuine democracy - any major party would have to listen to constituents over lobbiests and put pragmatism above inane rhetoric or risk losing government mid term.
"Censorship is a crime, forbidden by your most fundamental laws. Ladies and gentleman, you are engaging in criminal behavior. Do you wish to continue, and go to jail for it?"
Censorship is not a crime. Read the fine title perhaps? Fundumental laws have nothing to do with free speech here.
I didn't develop for it directly, just some interface stuff, but the general consensus was that it's needlessly overcomplicated in order to sell consultancy services, and needlessly wasteful of resources in order to sell hardware.
<facetious>Well I'm surprised they don't go for an open source enterprise solution from the likes of IBM or Oracle...</facetious>
While I fully support FOSS and use it exclusively for my personal needs, I sometimes wonder if MS is really all that different from the other big players in that space, especially now with the Oracle eating the Sun. Sun was at least all about standards as far as software and formats go, using their software stack to sell hardware.
Oracle, IBM and to a slightly lesser extent Red Hat, are all about lock in. Yes it's Linux, but if you want real power let me sell you this proprietary, closed system that costs a shit load more. Or yes it's a GNU/Linux stack, but it's not quite put together the way you might expect so that you must use people who pay us to do our courses so that they can recommend our product so that we can charge you for it and then you'll be locked in to using "independant" consultants trained by us who will continue to recommend us because the value they get from their investment in our lucrative training business depends on them recommending our products! Brilliant!
Even once they do perfect the electric car I would imagine there is no getting rid of the internal combustion engine.
Hmmm, I wonder about that. I'm not disputing that combustion is a better method of mobile energy use for long haul, it means you don't need to carry all of the components required to use the energy, but external combustion does make it much easier to burn dirtier fuels completely, meaning less refinement and higher tolerance for varying grades of biofuel.
I have a feeling, just a feeling mind - nothing to back it up, that turbines generating electric power (much like diesel locomotives) would be excellent for trucking, for example.
To you guys, US people, the concept of smart phone is new
That is as may be, but I am not in the US, never been there and don't mind if I never go.
ARE YOU SERIOUS??? Symbian is the leading(not the best, but surely, is the leading) Smartphone OS... Actually, there is more Symbian smartphones in the world that Android+iPhone combined
Quite serious. The thing about Symbian is it has been succesful because Nokia has been responsible for good, reliable hardware, arguably the best, and Symbian is all they have offered. All it has really taken is a bit of good UI design and they start losing sales massively to Apple. A bit of openess, like Google saying "here's an OS and API anyone can use for pretty much free along with free development tools," and Android starts eating in to market share. (The latter being slower due to early beta level release (i.e. Android 1, 1.5) on propeller head level hardware (i.e. G1/Dream))
From the pure profit view and in the medium term, Symbian was a huge success, but only by default. I think that Nokia realises that and that's why they are switching to Maemo and opening up Symbian. Now if their marketing would just pull their heads out of their arses, to use the colourful local vernacular, and if they opened Maemo up a bit to other manufacturers, they could wipe the floor with iPhone and Android, IMHO.
Yeah, I have just ordered a new N900 to replace my G1. The G1 is being only replaced because I dropped it a few too many times and it got flaky. I am moving from Android partly because the only way I have found to make the most of the hardware I own is to run a bunch o' hacks, I am more comfortable running a bunch o' hacks on Debian/Linux than Android, and partly because I can't find another Android phone with a flip out keyboard I like.
From what I have read, Nokia are dropping Symbian from future N series smart phones, so basically this announcement means that they are open sourcing their low end crappy OS which has pretty much failed in the smart phone space.
I vowed never to own another Symbian device when my last Nokia was retired a year ago. It is painfully limited and obscure and I don't see how opening up the source code will help when there is such a strong alternative in Maemo which already benefits from the familiarity of Linux/X/Qt. Waste of time, Nokia.
As an aside, and a bit off topic, I am interested in the AndroidExecutionEnvironment that was being developed for Ubuntu. A (hopefully) simple port to maemo would mean I could still run my favourite Android apps.
Of course they set the price. They might be willing to haggle with someone who says, "I love your stuff and I can show at least ten people I introduced to your work who hadn't heard of you before, hows about 90% a discount" but they set the final price. I so wish google had got this through the courts without anyone really noticing...
That's exactly my thoughts on reading TFA. Especially this:
"It means that the world has fundamentally accepted the concept that anybody, anywhere can copy what they want en masse without permission, and then ask people to opt out", he added.
I was thinking how great it would be if that was how it worked. If copyright owners basically had to contact the users and distributers of works and say "Oi, that's mine, either throw us some money (a reasonable amount) or cease, desist and delete."
If you have to explain why a joke is funny, it isn't funny.
From TFA:
How does the compression progress drive explain humor? Some subjective observers who read a given joke for the first time may think it is funny. Why? As the eyes are sequentially scanning the text the brain receives a complex visual input stream. The latter is subjectively partially compressible as it relates to the observer's previous knowledge about letters and words. That is, given the reader's current knowledge and current compressor, the raw data can be encoded by fewer bits than required to store random data of the same size. The punch line at the end, however, is unexpected. Initially this failed expectation results in sub-optimal data compression -- storage of expected events does not cost anything, but deviations from predictions require extra bits to encode them. The compressor, however, does not stay the same forever. Within a short time interval, its learning algorithm improves its performance on the data seen so far, by discovering the non-random, non-arbitrary and therefore compressible pattern relating the punch line to previous text and previous knowledge of the reader. This saves a few bits of storage. The number of saved bits (or a similar measure of learning progress) becomes the observer's intrinsic reward, possibly strong enough to motivate him to read on in search for more reward through additional yet unknown patterns. The recent joke, however, will never be novel or funny again.
I fear that no joke will ever be novel or funny again.
It's funny how people trapped by the reality distortion field will assert that two wrongs make a right as long as the second wrong is by Apple!
Summarising the exchange without the Apple goggles, Apple was once a nice company that did good work and contributed useful advances to the world of technology. They are now a company of mostly designers and lawyers that make Microsoft's embrace extend extinguish look like a model of speculative R&D. They use standards designed to correctly identify classes of technical device to enforce an anti-competitive business model.
Seriously, they now offer nothing of use to people who know how to create their own "oooh shiny" experience that "just works" without needing to be locked in to the expensive bloated crud that is iTunes/Appstore. Even the multitouch patent is of questionable validity considering it goes back to the early nineteen eighties. (but that link's from someone at microsoft research and who wants to listen to dweeds from there when... oooh shiny!)
I strongly suggest, jo_ham, that you do not cross the road at night. I fear shiny headlights of oncoming vehicles would render you incapable of moving or thinking independently.
If people don't want a format or technology, nothing the studios or content providers do will get them what they want (our money).
...Then company X spends more on marketing and adds better sweeteners for the retail chains, then company X's product gets touted as the best by "knowledgeable" staff in shops, then the average idiot buys what they believe to be the next big thing. To vote with ones wallet, one needs to be informed and resistant to reality distortion fields, and most people fail both of those tests, even people in I.T.
It's like iPhone here in Oz, or Windows 7*. Reasonably good products, sure, but not the best. They just happen to have the right marketing and retailer compliance behind them to become the standard.
* Actually Windows 7 because you can't buy a new PC/notebook without it unless you buy Apple or go to one small company** without any significant mind share. MS has sewn it up so all other suppliers have to pay for a windows license anyway over here. **My mention of pioneer is not me spamming/., I attempted to buy from them a couple of years ago and found the service so slow and disorganised I gave up and got a freaking Vista license from someone else - I really hope they have improved.
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Being against islam is as anti-semitic as being against judeism, idiot. Being anti israel is not anti semitic at all. People crying anti semitism when someone critisizes israel makes me sick. It turns the deaths of so many over the last millenium into a cheap political point. You are disgusting and your cheapening of such a major contention in European history is anti-semitic.
umm, I responded to an idiot talking about Hamas shooting Jews on sight - an Isreali right wing fantsy and I responded with a dig about those t-shirts that show that sections of the IDF really are sub human. Oh and I included a reminder that zionists hold a lot of firsts in the development of terrorism, seeing as we're discussing Isreal and not Jews.
This does not mean I think Hamas are innocent, but Isreal isn't the lesser of two evils. If Isreal stopped building settlements on land they don't own, stopped cutting basic supplies for areas they surround and pulled back to within their recognised territory, Hamas would not have been voted in to power in Palestine and it's membership would be tiny.
Hamas radicalism is a symptom and if Hamas was in the Isreali position, they too would be trying on the "we are a responsible modern government trying to deal with these terrorists" line. They are as bad as each other
oh and Hamas don't stand behind pregnant women. come on, think about it for a moment. how big do you think they are, large enough that the only way you could shoot a fighter behind is to target the womb? The shirts I referred to were spcifically celebrating targeting and shooting women and unborn children. If i spin that in the style of the Isreali propaganda which most people seem to be buying, I would say that the IDF's mission is to commit genocide of the Palestinians and, given compulsory national service, all of Isreal is committed to the genocide of the Palestinian people. See how it works?
John Saffran seems to be okay. Tell me, do Hamas fighters distribute shirts with cross hairs on pregnant women and wear them with pride?
Isreal is the perfect lesson in why we must never give in to terrorists and their demands. Let them win once and we justified the means. Now they are a nuclear state with a large segment of the population believing in their "glorious" terrorist propaganda. It may be too late to do anything.
Actually, network chiro is very effective for long term results. The prinicipal is that the pushing (in some cases feather light touch) causes your spine to move itself which allows your body to perform adjustments in a gentle way that doesn't involve the crunching you'd usually get with traditional chiro. The way it causes movement is similar to being tickled - areas at the base of the skull and sacrum are most often stimulated to cause unconcious movement.
Now just as some people aren't ticklish while others are, people react to this touch in different ways, and everyone has their own unique response. This means that there is an element of training, both the practitioner training the individual to breathe effectively and respond to the touch, and the patient training the practitioner to understand their particular body. This training can take a long time. A very long time. It gets expensive. Very expensive.
I am being completely serious - it works and works very well. The results are very long lasting because of the strong repetitious training aspect, but over a lifetime I think deep tissue or shiatsu are perhaps better options for dealing with similar complaints if you really want someone to do it to you. If you want the training/self help aspect, yoga or tai chi are cheaper and longer lasting.
Sooooo, let's see... Chronic back pain and headaches...
So chiropractic work manipulates the spine to, among other things, reduce pinching on nerves. So what do you suggest for chronic back pain then? Do you think it more sciency to, for example, prescribe anti-inflamatories that cause liver damage but reduce swelling of areas damaged by pinching along the spine allowing temporary improvement and hoping the spine corrects itself? You can always get a repeat....
Hmmmm. Or do we perhaps MOVE THE FUCKING SPINE BACK THE WAY IT SHOULD BE? But no, that's just a placebo. Like how if my car's stearing is out of alignment, getting a wheel alignment is a placebo. No, go with the drugs because then you can go back and get some other drug to deal with the liver problems and feel safe knowing you are in the hands of a good doctor.
Seriously, claiming a cure for cancer is pretty dangerous and stupid, but claiming that modern our pharmacy and butcher based medicine is the only way of dealing with ahealth problems is just as dangerous and stupid. Chiropractic treatment is effective for a few things where doctors are far worse than useless and a good doctor knows this.
Idiot. This effects routers. My Linux phone, PC and laptop are at no risk from this one. My router would be had I not changed the default password and ensured that remote admin is disabled. Most home windows users use linux in routers - you probably do and don't realise it.
Of course if you use windows on your router, you are either a genius or you truly are an idiot.
So your saying that the post you replied to was a bit like a car with manual transmission where the gear positions are labelled R 2 4 across the top and 1 3 5 along the bottom when in fact the linkages are such that it should be 1 3 5 along the top and 2 4 R along the bottom?
C'mon, the guys name is BadAnalogyGuy and he makes a really bad yet on topic anaolgy. Geez.
I like the idea of pushing the "Won't somebody think of the children" right back at him. Censorship at the ISP means more people are going to find out how to circumvent it. I have already heard about more methods of circumvention since this debate started than I knew of before.
So this policy is already propergating methods of circumvention. I find abuse of children and particularly young children disgusting and worthy of corporal punishment. Death's too good for them - public skinning alive and salt torture seems about right. Now information on circumvention and evasion is more public and I see Conroy's actions as being largely responsible.
Letter writing to the crazy fanatical Christian groups seems like a good idea to me for a start. Letters to the paper probably wont do much because the fuckwit doesn't actually listen to anyone who has a clue what they are talking about. He does care about votes from the Christian wacko lobby though and, as they respond more to fear and emotive language than logic, I think using the "think of the children" line might work.
I really hope the obviousness that we have just gone from a fascist government to a fascist government causes more moderates to wake up, realise that the two party system is bullshit and give the Greens a go. If you read their economic policies, they actually make a lot of sense. The only trouble they have is the old "they are a minor party so a vote for them is a vote wasted" which is a self perpetuating pile of crap. If they held balance in the senate, things like this would never get through. Balance in the house of reps could gives us genuine democracy - any major party would have to listen to constituents over lobbiests and put pragmatism above inane rhetoric or risk losing government mid term.
Censorship is not a crime. Read the fine title perhaps? Fundumental laws have nothing to do with free speech here.
Oh that's right. Don't forget the Canadians., They're the polite, intelligent Americans.
ok, ok, i know, blatant trolling, but I just couldn't resist....
<facetious>Well I'm surprised they don't go for an open source enterprise solution from the likes of IBM or Oracle...</facetious>
While I fully support FOSS and use it exclusively for my personal needs, I sometimes wonder if MS is really all that different from the other big players in that space, especially now with the Oracle eating the Sun. Sun was at least all about standards as far as software and formats go, using their software stack to sell hardware.
Oracle, IBM and to a slightly lesser extent Red Hat, are all about lock in. Yes it's Linux, but if you want real power let me sell you this proprietary, closed system that costs a shit load more. Or yes it's a GNU/Linux stack, but it's not quite put together the way you might expect so that you must use people who pay us to do our courses so that they can recommend our product so that we can charge you for it and then you'll be locked in to using "independant" consultants trained by us who will continue to recommend us because the value they get from their investment in our lucrative training business depends on them recommending our products! Brilliant!
At least MS is really obvious about it.
there, I said it...
Hmmm, I wonder about that. I'm not disputing that combustion is a better method of mobile energy use for long haul, it means you don't need to carry all of the components required to use the energy, but external combustion does make it much easier to burn dirtier fuels completely, meaning less refinement and higher tolerance for varying grades of biofuel.
I have a feeling, just a feeling mind - nothing to back it up, that turbines generating electric power (much like diesel locomotives) would be excellent for trucking, for example.
That is as may be, but I am not in the US, never been there and don't mind if I never go.
Quite serious. The thing about Symbian is it has been succesful because Nokia has been responsible for good, reliable hardware, arguably the best, and Symbian is all they have offered. All it has really taken is a bit of good UI design and they start losing sales massively to Apple. A bit of openess, like Google saying "here's an OS and API anyone can use for pretty much free along with free development tools," and Android starts eating in to market share. (The latter being slower due to early beta level release (i.e. Android 1, 1.5) on propeller head level hardware (i.e. G1/Dream))
From the pure profit view and in the medium term, Symbian was a huge success, but only by default. I think that Nokia realises that and that's why they are switching to Maemo and opening up Symbian. Now if their marketing would just pull their heads out of their arses, to use the colourful local vernacular, and if they opened Maemo up a bit to other manufacturers, they could wipe the floor with iPhone and Android, IMHO.
Yeah, I have just ordered a new N900 to replace my G1. The G1 is being only replaced because I dropped it a few too many times and it got flaky. I am moving from Android partly because the only way I have found to make the most of the hardware I own is to run a bunch o' hacks, I am more comfortable running a bunch o' hacks on Debian/Linux than Android, and partly because I can't find another Android phone with a flip out keyboard I like.
From what I have read, Nokia are dropping Symbian from future N series smart phones, so basically this announcement means that they are open sourcing their low end crappy OS which has pretty much failed in the smart phone space.
I vowed never to own another Symbian device when my last Nokia was retired a year ago. It is painfully limited and obscure and I don't see how opening up the source code will help when there is such a strong alternative in Maemo which already benefits from the familiarity of Linux/X/Qt. Waste of time, Nokia.
As an aside, and a bit off topic, I am interested in the AndroidExecutionEnvironment that was being developed for Ubuntu. A (hopefully) simple port to maemo would mean I could still run my favourite Android apps.
Of course they set the price. They might be willing to haggle with someone who says, "I love your stuff and I can show at least ten people I introduced to your work who hadn't heard of you before, hows about 90% a discount" but they set the final price. I so wish google had got this through the courts without anyone really noticing...
That's exactly my thoughts on reading TFA. Especially this:
I was thinking how great it would be if that was how it worked. If copyright owners basically had to contact the users and distributers of works and say "Oi, that's mine, either throw us some money (a reasonable amount) or cease, desist and delete."
Are you crazy!?!?
I tried that once and the skin on my arse has never been the same.
'kill -9 engine'
That didn't work for the iSmell.
If you have to explain why a joke is funny, it isn't funny.
From TFA:
I fear that no joke will ever be novel or funny again.
It's funny how people trapped by the reality distortion field will assert that two wrongs make a right as long as the second wrong is by Apple!
Summarising the exchange without the Apple goggles, Apple was once a nice company that did good work and contributed useful advances to the world of technology. They are now a company of mostly designers and lawyers that make Microsoft's embrace extend extinguish look like a model of speculative R&D. They use standards designed to correctly identify classes of technical device to enforce an anti-competitive business model.
Seriously, they now offer nothing of use to people who know how to create their own "oooh shiny" experience that "just works" without needing to be locked in to the expensive bloated crud that is iTunes/Appstore. Even the multitouch patent is of questionable validity considering it goes back to the early nineteen eighties. (but that link's from someone at microsoft research and who wants to listen to dweeds from there when... oooh shiny!)
I strongly suggest, jo_ham, that you do not cross the road at night. I fear shiny headlights of oncoming vehicles would render you incapable of moving or thinking independently.
So are Chrome, Safari and Opera are better for phishing, or is Google just being lazy with Firefox?
FWIW, ie7 gets http://slashdot.org/ in the clipboard. That and FF3.5 are all I have to hand ATM.
Yeah, well if you believe that, I've got a marine bridge to sell you...
..hang on
...Then company X spends more on marketing and adds better sweeteners for the retail chains, then company X's product gets touted as the best by "knowledgeable" staff in shops, then the average idiot buys what they believe to be the next big thing. To vote with ones wallet, one needs to be informed and resistant to reality distortion fields, and most people fail both of those tests, even people in I.T.
It's like iPhone here in Oz, or Windows 7*. Reasonably good products, sure, but not the best. They just happen to have the right marketing and retailer compliance behind them to become the standard.
* Actually Windows 7 because you can't buy a new PC/notebook without it unless you buy Apple or go to one small company** without any significant mind share. MS has sewn it up so all other suppliers have to pay for a windows license anyway over here. /., I attempted to buy from them a couple of years ago and found the service so slow and disorganised I gave up and got a freaking Vista license from someone else - I really hope they have improved.
**My mention of pioneer is not me spamming
Ooops. Yes. My bad. I take it all back - sorry