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Chuck Norris Attacks Linux-Based Routers, Modems

angry tapir writes "Discovered by Czech researchers, the Chuck Norris botnet has been spreading by taking advantage of poorly configured routers and DSL modems. The malware got the Chuck Norris moniker from a programmer's Italian comment in its source code: 'in nome di Chuck Norris,' which means 'in the name of Chuck Norris.' Chuck Norris is unusual in that it infects DSL modems and routers rather than PCs. It installs itself on routers and modems by guessing default administrative passwords and taking advantage of the fact that many devices are configured to allow remote access."

193 comments

  1. As far as misleading headlines go by DavidR1991 · · Score: 5, Funny

    this one really takes the cake!

    1. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by somersault · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, I think Chuck Norris would take the cake and use it to asphyxiate the headline, before drop-kicking said headline into the sun.

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    2. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by FluffyWithTeeth · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I've also got to question the sense of naming a botnet like this. Sure it's memorable, but what's to stop Chuck Norris from taking legal action against the researchers who coined the name? I certainly wouldn't want my name associated with a criminal enterprise.

    3. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by suso · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, this is very misleading. I thought that maybe the Linux network stack was suddenly vulnerable or something, but you're just talking about it taking advantage of default passwords, which is pretty old if you ask me.

      This doesn't necessarily mean that say a Linux router that was installed on PC class hardware and has been kept up to date and properly secured is vulnerable to this botnet.

    4. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amazing how posts get modded insightful even though they take no time to explain their possition.

      Given the track record of Slashdot recently I could probably put this on every article and get modded up.

    5. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've also got to question the sense of naming a botnet like this. Sure it's memorable, but what's to stop Chuck Norris from taking legal action against the researchers who coined the name? I certainly wouldn't want my name associated with a criminal enterprise.

      ...Chuck Norris is a fictional charactor...

    6. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by spartacus_prime · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, I think Chuck Norris would take the cake and use it to asphyxiate the headline, before roundhouse kicking said headline into the sun.

      Fixed that for you.

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    7. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've also got to question the sense of naming a botnet like this. Sure it's memorable, but what's to stop Chuck Norris from taking legal action against the researchers who coined the name? I certainly wouldn't want my name associated with a criminal enterprise.

      ...Chuck Norris is a fictional charactor...

      please tell me you're kidding?

      he's an actor....

    8. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Amazing how posts get modded insightful even though they take no time to explain their possition.

            The mod system shares the same flaw as democracy: Morons also have a vote.

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    9. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by FlyingBishop · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bigger problem is the inability to change your vote, and locating positive and negative mods in close proximity to each other so it's easy to accidentally mod someone up/down with no recourse.

    10. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by jeffmeden · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I will take a shot at this, although I am not the OP. The botnet has little to do with Chuck Norris OR Linux in particular, only that these names come up when investigating it. It is a run of the mill botnet, it takes advantage of default/weak passwords.

    11. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Tukz · · Score: 1

      woooosh

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    12. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by BlueTrin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I am not sure that it is very different to democracy ...

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    13. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by andi75 · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you really screwed up moderating, just post a reply in the same thread, that will undo all your moderations.

    14. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the words of Peter Griffin... Road House!

      R.I.P. - Patrick Swayze (Chuck never stood a chance.)

    15. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by ooshna · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...Chuck Norris is a fictional charactor...

      Thats what they said about the fist in his beard

    16. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by daem0n1x · · Score: 1

      Ah, so much energy and money spent in lawsuits. Please leave the researchers alone. There are so many important things in life.

    17. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by cheshiremoe · · Score: 1

      Haven't you seen is infomercials for the Total Gym? He is a real dude and he is going to break your face.

    18. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by AttilaSz · · Score: 1

      The only legal action Chuck Norris takes is one where he is the judge, the jury, and the executioner.

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    19. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by BlackBloq · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think Chuck Norris would take the cake and use it to asphyxiate the headline, before reverse jump spin heel kicking said headline into the sun. RE-RE corrected as Chuck Norris would never finish on a roundhouse!

    20. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by LordSnooty · · Score: 1

      I'd be more concerned with having my name associated with a very unamusing and old Internet meme...

    21. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, why do you think a criminal enterprise would care about this? They've already demonstrated a disregard for the law.

    22. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by AttilaSz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, he is played by Bruce Schneier.

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    23. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Ltap · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, he's Carlos Ray Norris and was born in 1940. The actor has the same name as most of his characters. Chuck Norris plays, well, Chuck Norris. Therefore they could even get the double whammy (or roundhouse kick?) of an infringement AND a libel lawsuit.

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    24. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've also got to question the sense of naming a botnet like this. Sure it's memorable, but what's to stop Chuck Norris from taking legal action against the researchers who coined the name? I certainly wouldn't want my name associated with a criminal enterprise.

      ...Chuck Norris is a fictional charactor...

      Carlos Ray Norris Jr. would like to disagree.

    25. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by purpledinoz · · Score: 1

      Chuck Norris doesn't attack. He destroys.

    26. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not to some ppl apparently >_> lol

    27. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by ichthyoboy · · Score: 1

      If only we could do that with politicians....

    28. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by flyneye · · Score: 1

      Had I gotten first post, I surely would've M.C.ed " Let the Chuck Norris Jokes Begin", but as usual I am hours late and $5 short of the admittance fee.
      My contribution makes reference to the Cinematic battle featuring Bruce Lee, who actually flayed Chucks ass in that scene because of his egotistical attitude and the necessity for someone to write a Bruce Lee worm to rid us of the threat at hand.

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    29. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what's to stop Chuck Norris from taking legal action against the researchers who coined the name?

      Chuck Norris's attorney is his right foot.

    30. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      Not only morons, but non-morons with axes to grind who's response to those with a contrary view is to try to shut them up rather than debate them. That comes up rather quickly as a factor in any discussion involving politics, religion, or global warming. Again, just like democracy.

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    31. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...Chuck Norris is a fictional charactor..."

      "Chuck Norris" is a registered trademark. That alone makes it an infringement to use without a license.

      I'd like to see Disney's reaction when the next botnet gets named "Mickey Mouse" ;)

    32. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by paiute · · Score: 1

      Actually, he's Carlos Ray Norris

      I may not be a martial artist, but at least I have a real American name.

      Plus I can act.

      And my face assumes different configurations based on the emotion I am feeling at the time.

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    33. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by geekmux · · Score: 1

      I've also got to question the sense of naming a botnet like this. Sure it's memorable, but what's to stop Chuck Norris from taking legal action against the researchers who coined the name? I certainly wouldn't want my name associated with a criminal enterprise.

      ...Chuck Norris is a fictional charactor...

      Wow. Haven't seen anyone say something like that to get their ass kicked on purpose since watching Jackass reruns.

      Trust me, he's a real person, and his primary skill isn't acting. Careful.

    34. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Morons also have a vote

      Bush/Cheney
      Obama/Biden

      I see your point. Thanks for depressing me further.

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    35. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Informative

      If only we could do that with politicians....

            Well apparently adding Sarah Palin to your ballot will undo most of your political votes, too.

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    36. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      Of course, what configuration will your face assume when Chuck Norris round house kicks your face into the sun?

      I am pretty sure that the end result of that match is Acting: 0 Roundhouse: 1

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    37. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Creepy · · Score: 1

      yes, its taking advantage of a number of router issues that date back to the stone ages of computing

      1) the default username is admin. In many cases you either can't change the username or changes in username are ignored. In fact, the only time I've been able to both change the username and had it not be ignored was with a custom linux reconfig on the Linksys WRT54G.

      2) while not as common these days, enabling remote admin was common on older routers. I actually haven't seen this configured as enabled on any router in the past 10 years (I've configured DLink, Belkin, Linksys, and Cisco routers and a Linksys switch, and all had it disabled by default) - I don't think this botnet will infect a ton of machines just because of this, but people with older routers are more likely to have issues.

      3) the default password is admin. This has been the standard password for routers and even early BBS software dating to the late 1970s or possibly early 1980s. If I remember correctly, it was the default for Citadel BBS software, amongst others.

    38. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      I am the Judge Judy and executioner.

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    39. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably not the angle you were going for, but Paiute is a _real_ American name.

    40. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by FlyingBishop · · Score: 1

      Well, the real issue is that funny and informative are right next to each other. I'm not going to undo it if I mix up those, but the system still suffers.

    41. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by ipquickly · · Score: 1

      Chuck Norris's attorney is his right foot.

      Yes, his name is law, the other one is named order, and you don't want to meet him.

    42. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by AG+the+other · · Score: 1

      Then who is the guy that I used to go to church with every Sunday?

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    43. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by paiute · · Score: 1

      My face will assume a look of humor followed by a look of pity as his 70 year old hip dislocates when he tries to raise his foot above his belt.

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    44. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...Chuck Norris is a fictional charactor...

      Actually Carlos is the Spanish version of Charles and the 'short' version of Charles is Chuck, so really Chuck Norris is not a fictional character.

    45. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are just a dumb racist, go here: american3p.org we just need all of you motherfuckers in one place.

      kthnkbai

    46. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by indi0144 · · Score: 1

      >>Actually Carlos is the Spanish version of Charles

      Actually Charles is the anglo EQUIVALENT for Carlos which is the Castillian(?) for Carlo, you know, there were other empires and cultures and languages before USA and English Language.

    47. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by marafa · · Score: 0

      Amazing how posts get modded insightful even though they take no time to explain their possition.

      Given the track record of Slashdot recently I could probably put this on every article and get modded up.

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    48. Re:As far as misleading headlines go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was unable to fix his mistake before Chuck Norris came out of nowhere and showed him the difference between a drop kick and roundhouse kick.

  2. I wonder by weirdcrashingnoises · · Score: 1

    I wonder what he attacks them with.

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    1. Re:I wonder by MustardAndPizza · · Score: 4, Funny

      Duh! Very small rocks.

  3. Is anything by AllyGreen · · Score: 3, Funny

    safe from Chuck Norris??

    1. Re:Is anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Only Chuck Norris is safe from Chuck Norris.

    2. Re:Is anything by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      Only Chuck Norris is safe from Chuck Norris.

      Are you implying that Chuck Norris could beat up Chuck Norris?

    3. Re:Is anything by Razalhague · · Score: 1

      No, he's implying that Chuck Norris couldn't beat up Chuck Norris.

    4. Re:Is anything by hvm2hvm · · Score: 4, Funny

      If Chuck Norris ever fights himself (like if he goes back in time) he will win. End of story.

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    5. Re:Is anything by JustOK · · Score: 1

      Imagine a Beowulf cluster of time traveling Chuck Norrises fighting each other.

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    6. Re:Is anything by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Imagine a Beowulf cluster of time traveling Chuck Norrises fighting each other.

      Please sell the movie rights to your idea. I. Want. To. See. That.

    7. Re:Is anything by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

      Not even Chuck Norris is safe from Chuck Norris, so this botnet's days are numbered.

    8. Re:Is anything by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      Only Chuck Norris is safe from Chuck Norris.

      Are you implying that Chuck Norris could beat up Chuck Norris?

      If you ponder it for too long, the world will end. So please, for the sake of all of us -- don't.

    9. Re:Is anything by ajlitt · · Score: 1

      The universe finds this so abhorrent that it would never be allowed to happen.

    10. Re:Is anything by hodet · · Score: 1

      or working together to take over the world....like a botnet!!!

  4. the REAL Chuck Noris by bsDaemon · · Score: 5, Funny

    The REAL Chuck Noris wouldn't have to guess the default password, he'd just round-house kick the modem until it let him in without it.

    1. Re:the REAL Chuck Noris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      There is no password behind Chuck Norris' router, there is only another fist.

    2. Re:the REAL Chuck Noris by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Chuck Norris has no need of a router. He simply stares at an inexpensive hub until it starts packet switching out of fear.

      His last hub was only rebooted once. Rebooted into the sun.

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    3. Re:the REAL Chuck Noris by whrde · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I thought "Chuck Norris" WAS the master password to all the websites on the internet. Or was that just facebook?

    4. Re:the REAL Chuck Noris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The REAL Chuck Noris wouldn't have to guess the default password, he'd just round-house kick the modem until it let him in without it.

      Did "brute force" just get redefined ?

  5. And will the Bruce Lee Bot Net be fighting it? by wintercolby · · Score: 1

    So . . . Where's the Bruce Lee Bot Net in all this? Will it be involved in some botnet tournament, fighting over Linksys, D-Link and Netgear routers in a winner takes all competition?

    Only time will tell if this botnet can withstand the test of time, only to appear in really cheesey YouTube shows about a botnet turned good out to beat some serious Texas Worm's butt.

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    1. Re:And will the Bruce Lee Bot Net be fighting it? by Xemu · · Score: 4, Funny

      Will it be involved in some botnet tournament, fighting over Linksys, D-Link and Netgear routers in a winner takes all competition?

      That would be the "Highlander" botnet

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    2. Re:And will the Bruce Lee Bot Net be fighting it? by wintercolby · · Score: 1

      Sorry, it was a referrence to this popular movie which predated "Highlander"

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    3. Re:And will the Bruce Lee Bot Net be fighting it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do believe that the vxworks based SB5120 and SMC connect devices will win the fight. http://www.exploit-db.com/download_pdf/11194

  6. nobody can resist Chuck Norris by Fotograf · · Score: 1

    not even linux for god sake, look him up in Google, and if you are brave enough in Google Images! (i warned you)

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  7. Stupid jokes incoming in 3...2...1... by selven · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not even Bruce Schneier can protect your router from Chuck.

    1. Re:Stupid jokes incoming in 3...2...1... by krou · · Score: 5, Funny

      The malware got the Chuck Norris moniker from a programmer's Italian comment in its source code: 'in nome di Chuck Norris,' which means 'in the name of Chuck Norris.'

      In other news, an Italian programmer was found dead after taking Chuck Norris's name in vain.

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    2. Re:Stupid jokes incoming in 3...2...1... by rubycodez · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...with the impression of a foot in the side of his head

    3. Re:Stupid jokes incoming in 3...2...1... by krou · · Score: 1

      The only impression Chuck Norris leaves is the quite accurate impression that you're dead.

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    4. Re:Stupid jokes incoming in 3...2...1... by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1
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    5. Re:Stupid jokes incoming in 3...2...1... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he still has a head, this is clearly not the work of Chuck Norris.

    6. Re:Stupid jokes incoming in 3...2...1... by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      the head was found in ditch 200 feet from body

  8. non Linux based routers by viralMeme · · Score: 3, Insightful

    'It installs itself on routers and modems by guessing default administrative passwords and taking advantage of the fact that many devices are configured to allow remote access."'

    Does this botnet attack also work on non Linux based routers and if so the what is the logic behind the subject line ?

    1. Re:non Linux based routers by Flibberdy · · Score: 5, Informative

      'It installs itself on routers and modems by guessing default administrative passwords and taking advantage of the fact that many devices are configured to allow remote access."' Does this botnet attack also work on non Linux based routers and if so the what is the logic behind the subject line ?

      No, It requires the router to be running Linux on a MIPS system.

    2. Re:non Linux based routers by langelgjm · · Score: 2, Informative

      It doesn't help that standard installs of Comcast and Verizon FiOS provided routers not only leave the default administrative usernames and passwords intact, but also enable only WEP security. I know people claim that they have to do this because of compatibility, but really, has anyone bought anything in the last five years that doesn't support WPA? I've seen techs enable WEP for a person with a single Macbook.

      Granted, they don't enable remote access, but really, what is so hard about writing down passwords and taping them to the bottom of the router?

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    3. Re:non Linux based routers by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      "guessing default administrative" could be looked up and listed in their code via sites like
      http://www.portforward.com/
      Then just hope like a UFO hunter on a US mil network, its a default hunt.

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    4. Re:non Linux based routers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well that takes about 1-2 minutes that I could use for downloading porn. And porn wins, every time.

    5. Re:non Linux based routers by Culture20 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      non Linux based routers

      Quick! This man is talking but something is not right. The words are real, but they don't make sense in this sequence. Chuck Norris must have given him a roundhouse kick to the head.
      These days, "non Linux based router" is like saying "non carbon based life" (assuming we're talking about home networks.

    6. Re:non Linux based routers by Nursie · · Score: 3, Informative

      Apparently the nintendo DS, unless some sort of update has been released, only does WEP.

      This is not a good thing.

    7. Re:non Linux based routers by Nutria · · Score: 1

      Well, it's Monday morning (where I am, in America, which is all that counts!), so a serious case of lack-of-humor is to be expected on the part of some commenters.

      Thus: lighten up people.

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    8. Re:non Linux based routers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      but really, has anyone bought anything in the last five years that doesn't support WPA?

      Yes. The Nintendo DS and DS Lite only support WEP. They launched in 2004 and 2006, respectively. Only the third iteration of the device (the DSi) has WPA support, but it's less than a year old, and the DS Lite seems to still be selling.

    9. Re:non Linux based routers by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not so.

      For example, some Linksys routers run Linux, but others run a proprietary VxWorks-based OS. They're all, to my knowledge, based on MIPS processors.

    10. Re:non Linux based routers by lyinhart · · Score: 1

      The Actiontec Mi424-WR Verizon provides for FiOS supports WPA and WPA2, at least from Revision D on. But by default, it uses WEP (the web admin console actually recommends WEP). One of the Westell routers I've seen for a Verizon Business DSL installation a few years back only supports WEP. So I just disabled wireless outright for that installation.

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    11. Re:non Linux based routers by Anderu67 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's no way to update the DS, as the wi-fi stack is built into each game cartridge. Chances are you wouldn't be using a DS online enough to want to lower your security though...

    12. Re:non Linux based routers by phrostie · · Score: 1

      I have to agree with the lighten up part.
      if this is the best they can do, then bring it on.

      besides, i'm more of a Jackie Chan fan myself

    13. Re:non Linux based routers by Daley_G · · Score: 1

      '...what is the logic behind the subject line ?'

      Marketing. It got us to click on it, which is what the goal was.

    14. Re:non Linux based routers by thedonger · · Score: 1

      Granted, they don't enable remote access, but really, what is so hard about writing down passwords and taping them to the bottom of the router?

      The Chuck Norris botnet can read the password taped to the bottom of your router.

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    15. Re:non Linux based routers by petermgreen · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's worse than that, on the DS games drive the wifi hardware directly so while the DSi does support WPA you can only use it in games that specifically support it.

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    16. Re:non Linux based routers by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      I just got a FIOS wireless router a few months ago, and I only see WEP in the configuration settings. I disabled it entirely and am using a separate access point running DD-WRT.

      I'm just utterly amazed that in 2010 that EVERYTHING doesn't support WPA2.

      Also - it is very annoying that there is no standard for providing secure WiFi connections that doesn't involve a shared secret. It is like http all over again (also no standard for secure connections that doesn't involve a trusted certificate). Even if you can't get authentication you should at least be able to secure a connection against passive listeners with either technology, and this should be the default.

    17. Re:non Linux based routers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who needs remote access to the router, when I have remote access to your modem? There's no reset button on *that*, either. http://www.exploit-db.com/download_pdf/11194

    18. Re:non Linux based routers by Svartalf · · Score: 1

      There's no good secure way to do what you're commenting on. How could you know what is properly authenticated or not to initiate the secure session? You can't without some sort of certificate or pre-shared key info. Even public key cryptography needs some semblance of an initial pre-shared tidbit- and PKI's are vastly less secure than most people think they are even when there's no compromises within the certificate chain directly.

      As an exercise, I suggest you read up on some of the recent TLS exploits (they don't entail someone social engineering themselves a cert- you can software engineer yourself one nowadays...) or any of Bruce Schnier's books on Cryptography. It's not magic stuff that armors everything- it simply puts a price to getting at the information so secured that varies from keeping honest people honest to keeping the slightly dishonest out.

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    19. Re:non Linux based routers by Svartalf · · Score: 2, Informative

      Currently the Botnet is using the Linux routers- but it's not an overall stretch, if there's any firmware update ability, to imagine someone injecting a similar beastie into the VxWorks versions of the routers if the remote admin functionality is turned on. All that is needed then is configuring to reflash and then doing the same- then the router would be compromised.

      Just because it's VxWorks, it doesn't make it magically safe from being added to the Botnet. It's just that it's not being done now.

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    20. Re:non Linux based routers by Bootarn · · Score: 2, Informative

      One solution is to set up two access points: one with WEP, which is locked down to only access the external network, and only for certain ports, and one with WPA2, which can also access the internal network. Some routers can host multiple virtual access points (multiple interfaces), so there's no need for extra hardware in that case.

      This setup has worked well for me with my DS in the past, although I didn't limit the port range on the WEP access point.

    21. Re:non Linux based routers by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      I see it this way. I have two choices with regard to http or WiFi encryption:

      1. No encryption at all, which is vulnerable to passive and active attacks.
      2. Fully authenticated encryption, which is not vulnerable to passive and active attacks.

      I propose we should have a third choice:

      3. Unauthenticated encryption, which is vulnerable to active attacks (MITM) but not passive attacks.

      I just don't get arguments that call this "insecure" - sure it is less secure than #2, but it is more secure than #1 which is the de-facto standard because #2 is hard to implement in many cases.

      Instead, all communications should use at least #3, and then use #2 whenever possible.

      In rejecting the third option we instead end up accepting the first option, which is even less secure. The comparison between #2 and #3 is a false one, because in reality the choice ends up being between #1 and #3.

    22. Re:non Linux based routers by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      I have had computer repair customers come over to my home/workshop and connect to my wireless, but they'll have ancient laptops that can only use WPA or WEP. I'm very interested in hearing about how you could set this up with a network. Got any links?

    23. Re:non Linux based routers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DD-WRT supports multiple virtual wireless networks with different security settings on a single router. A guide.

    24. Re:non Linux based routers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen techs enable WEP for a person with a single Macbook.

      Odd, since every Macbook ever produced can do WPA2.

    25. Re:non Linux based routers by Bootarn · · Score: 1

      I got this setup by experimentation, so I'm afrad I have no links, but I can describe my setup in more detail. I use OpenWrt on my wireless router (WGT634U). Recent versions use a web based configuration interface known as LuCI, which can be used in addition to configuring the device through the standard command line interface. Since it's based on the Linux kernel, you can use all of iptables to configure this behaviour. Using LuCI, this is a simple process, and you can define VLANs to your liking. OpenWrt

      For this setup you need a router capable of allowing/denying connections based on source/destination interface (it's ideal if it can run OpenWrt, because it makes setup a lot easier).

      You'll need to create two wireless interfaces, one with WEP/WPA encryption and one with WPA2 encryption. Next, configure the WEP/WPA interface so that it can't access anything except your external (internet) interface, creating something similar to a VLAN. You should be done. There's plenty of information on the OpenWrt site, but a good starting point is that you read about iptables and routing.

      I hope this helps in some way.

    26. Re:non Linux based routers by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      It sounds like a massive pain in the ass but a ton of fun. Guess I have another weekend project to add to the pile. Thanks a bunch!

  9. Wow, wasn't aware Chuck Norris was a botnet by knewter · · Score: 4, Funny

    Am I the only one who was entirely terrified by this headline?

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    1. Re:Wow, wasn't aware Chuck Norris was a botnet by FlyingBishop · · Score: 1

      I thought Chuck Norris was speaking out against the use of socialist software.

    2. Re:Wow, wasn't aware Chuck Norris was a botnet by AP31R0N · · Score: 1

      Chuck Norris isn't a BotNet, it's just that he's so deadly that his AIM status message leaves devastation in its wake.

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    3. Re:Wow, wasn't aware Chuck Norris was a botnet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linux isn't socialist. We know this because it actually works.

    4. Re:Wow, wasn't aware Chuck Norris was a botnet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia Linux-Based Routers attack Chuck Norris.

    5. Re:Wow, wasn't aware Chuck Norris was a botnet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By that logic, Linux must not be Republican.

    6. Re:Wow, wasn't aware Chuck Norris was a botnet by lwsimon · · Score: 1

      I've always seen Linux as a kind of Social Libertarian. I can agree with the second half of that, at least, so Linux and I get along.

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  10. Try lack of jurisdiction by damn_registrars · · Score: 3, Informative

    what's to stop Chuck Norris from taking legal action against the researchers who coined the name?

    International boundaries, for one. Likely the author of the software for the botnet does not reside in the US (if that person's location is even known). Chuck Norris can take all the legal action he wants within the US against the botnet author or botnet master, it generally won't mean squat if they are in a different country.

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    1. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by Sique · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Moreso if anyone ever is able to detain the author and the deployer of the software and the operator of the botnet, then the nicknaming of it will be the least of their problems.

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    2. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by FluffyWithTeeth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      His name is only written in the source code, which I doubt anyone cares about. The issue is the researchers who decided to call it "The Chuck Norris Botnet" and then publish papers about it, using that name.

    3. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      The question was actually about the researcher; surely the author is already taking action to avoid the recourse of getting caught distributing/running a malicious botnet. However, the researcher (in this case Czech, could have easily been from the US) was the one that coined the name based on the code found. Would someone doing that be subject to legal action as a result? It's a gray area, but it wouldn't be hard to argue defamation if the researcher titled all his papers "Malicious Activity by Chuck Norris Botnet". Despite *our* ability to easily determine that the name has little to actually do with Chuck Norris, a less informed individual wouldn't be able to.

    4. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by Neoprofin · · Score: 1

      Or, and hear me out on this, he could take legal action, if there is any to be taken, in the applicable country. It seems to be a much disregarded fact on Slashdot that you don't need to be the citizen of, resident of, or even present in, a country to hire a lawyer there to file whatever papers you choose.

    5. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Despite *our* ability to easily determine that the name has little to actually do with Chuck Norris, a less informed individual wouldn't be able to.

      And that is exactly the problem with the legal system.

      Since when is it my responsibility to make sure you're educated in all the correct fields so that you don't get offended, or misinterpret something I say?

      The fact that someone who's not informed could misunderstand me should not be able to present me with any legal problems at all.

      Unfortunately, it does, because the system sucks.

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    6. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by AttilaSz · · Score: 1

      No international boundary can stop Chuck Norris.

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    7. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by AttilaSz · · Score: 1

      Yes, their major problem will be Chuck Norris coming after them.

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    8. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      As best I know, you are absolutely right on that. However that still leaves the problem of figuring out where the botnet originated, and more likely more importantly where the author of the important code lives. I doubt that search would be worth the time it would take to do it; and considering the second and third-world countries where these botnets usually get their starts, it might not be a worthwhile pursuit anyways.

      In short I think Chuck Norris likely has better things to do with his time and money. But of course I am not Chuck Norris, nor am I his legal advisor, nor do I play either of them on TV.

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    9. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by NevarMore · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't that be like Al Capone being busted on tax evasion? Oh, better yet, OJ getting acquitted in criminal court to be successfully sued in civil court.

      So Chuck sends his lawyers after the author. But only because lawyers are a "nice" first option, better than being roundhouse kicked off of the moon, through a plate glass window, and into the sun. Those lawyers track down and sue the bloke who wrote the botnet and win, but the FBI/CIA/Interpol/Vatican can't actually convict him of computer crimes.

    10. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how many researches norris would chuck if chuck norris would chuck researches?

    11. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by Korin43 · · Score: 1

      With headlines like this, I'm guessing I wasn't the only one who though "Oh shit, Chuck Norris hates Linux" when I saw the headline.

    12. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      It may be that the legal system's burden of proof is too low, but I think you mean to rail against either poor English skills or general apathy toward knowledge.

      It is hard to argue that if a layperson heard "Chuck Norris took over a thousand routers and displayed a picture of a man's anus on a million computer screens" that they would be wrong to assume that you meant THE Chuck Norris, not Chuck Norris the botnet. After all, the man came first (interestingly, also before the Chicken AND the Egg.)

      Should it be up to the original report's publisher to plainly portray this as a unique identity? Should it be up to the reporters that turn it into headlines like "Chuck Norris Roundhouse Kicked Your Linux Router"? Should it be up to the end user to read the headline and think "well maybe they dont mean Chuck Norris the man... this warrants further investigation." Surely, we should hold ourselves to higher standards.

    13. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by nacturation · · Score: 1

      what's to stop Chuck Norris from taking legal action against the researchers who coined the name?

      International boundaries, for one. Likely the author of the software for the botnet does not reside in the US (if that person's location is even known). Chuck Norris can take all the legal action he wants within the US against the botnet author or botnet master, it generally won't mean squat if they are in a different country.

      Error: answer does not match the question.

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    14. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by vegiVamp · · Score: 1

      Chuck Norris not liking you tends to be a pretty major problem.

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    15. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by mux2000 · · Score: 1

      The latest TED talk is oddly appropriate, though also off-topic. http://bit.ly/aIvkyO

    16. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by Nero+Nimbus · · Score: 1

      Roundhouse kicks transcend international borders.

      Especially when they're executed by Chuck Norris.

    17. Re:Try lack of jurisdiction by Neoprofin · · Score: 1

      Italian speaking software writers are probably a little easier to track down than Chinese simply by nature of their respective populations but either way I agree, not going to happen.

  11. Chuck Norris Doesn't Even Need to Attack Them by cfriedt · · Score: 1

    Chuck Norris doesn't even need to attack them, they just submit because they know he could fry their CPU with a single packet!

    1. Re:Chuck Norris Doesn't Even Need to Attack Them by Eternauta3k · · Score: 1

      Chuck Norris doesn't even need to attack them, they just submit because they know he could fry their CPU with a single packet!

      Actually, if they submit they're probably sending a couple of HTTP packets

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  12. Have we found his one weakness? by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is Chuck Norris really defeated by changing the admin password on your home router?!

    That would have made Bruce Lee's job a lot easier.

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    1. Re:Have we found his one weakness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Return of the Dragon ?

  13. Source code? by marciot · · Score: 1

    "The malware got the Chuck Norris moniker from a programmer's Italian comment in its source code: 'in nome di Chuck Norris'"

    Source code? How did they get the source code? Wouldn't a virus in the wild be compiled? Is this some strange virus that carries around its source code and compiles itself for every new host it infects?

    If so, I believe a Gentoo programmer is behind this virus outbreak.

    1. Re:Source code? by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 1

      Maybe they decompiled/de-assembled it?

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    2. Re:Source code? by BlindSpot · · Score: 1

      Hey, maybe it means malware developers are finally embracing Open Source!

    3. Re:Source code? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You get the comments when you dissasemble the binary? O_o I want that tool!

    4. Re:Source code? by cpghost · · Score: 1

      But if a virus is GPLed, shouldn't it install its source code on the target machines too (as the author doesn't provide alternative ways to download the source)?

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    5. Re:Source code? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      It's not uncommon for virus programmers to put text data in the binary somewhere. I agree, though, calling machine language "source code" is a bit of a stretch.

  14. Chuck Norris sued "Penguin" by YaHooL · · Score: 1

    I've also got to question the sense of naming a botnet like this. Sure it's memorable, but what's to stop Chuck Norris from taking legal action against the researchers who coined the name? I certainly wouldn't want my name associated with a criminal enterprise.

    Reuters Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:21pm: Tough-guy actor and martial arts expert Chuck Norris sued publisher Penguin on Friday over a book he claims unfairly exploits his famous name, based on a satirical Internet list of "mythical facts" about him.

    "Norris, whose real name is Carlos Ray Norris, claims in the suit he is protective of what his name is associated with."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2129580420071222

  15. So, and I'm guessing here... by stakovahflow · · Score: 2, Insightful

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    I'm just guessing that the user name is "admin", "Admin", "root", or "user" and the password is either "password", "admin", or "actiontec"...

    I've setup some of those modems/routers, mainly for people who went to Best Buy (EEK!) and thought "Hey! That's exactly what I'm looking for! That will work great for my Verizon DSL connection! Hey, it's got the Verizon logo right there!"...

    FAIL!

    !!!!!!!!!!!
    Beware anything branded by an ISP, to begin with... And most devices created for a not-so-security-savvy consumer... If all else fails, have a pro come in and set it up for you...
    They will be able to have you reset the password and setup some sort of encryption/authentication for your wireless network...
    !!!!!!!!!!!

    The problem here is that the default username & password for almost every new (Home-based) router or modem is going to be "admin" & "admin" or "admin" & "password"...

    What really needs to be done here is that, by default, the device should not be able to connect to the Interwebz with the default settings. If nothing else, have the external web/console interface blocked... "Security through obscurity", including an odd http/https port is only so effective... And most of the time, in my little bit of experience, it is not that obscure... Once the device is out there, its configuration will be scrutinized and, in most cases, prodded by hackers & crackers alike, for "security" concerns.

    And don't give me the "Oh, it's Linux. Secure by default!" bit. Any operating system is only as secure as the person controlling it. If you were to have no clue as to how an internal combustion engine works, would you take on the task of rebuilding your (gas-guzzling) car's engine? Most likely not... Why would you think that you could secure your Internet connection if you have no knowledge of how the Internet and, even more than that, people work?

    Just another bad thought...

    Cheers!

    --Stak

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  16. Linux fanism by mozzis · · Score: 0, Troll

    So if Confiker owns Windows boxen it's because Windows is awful and shoddy. But if CN owns Linux boxen it's because they are "misconfigured". Grow up, /.

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    1. Re:Linux fanism by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

      So if Confiker owns Windows boxen it's because Windows is awful and shoddy. But if CN owns Linux boxen it's because they are "misconfigured". Grow up, /.

      You are obviously new around here.

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    2. Re:Linux fanism by mikechant · · Score: 2, Informative

      So if Confiker owns Windows boxen it's because Windows is awful and shoddy. But if CN owns Linux boxen it's because they are "misconfigured".

      Given that confiker exploited actual bugs in windows which MS had to patch, and that 'Chuck Norris' is exploiting the fact that certain appliance suppliers deliberately 'configured' Linux with a fixed and known id and password, the statement above that you deride is *in this particular case* clearly accurate.

      You do understand the difference between an actual bug causing a security problem and a deliberate choice to 'leave the front door open' don't you?

    3. Re:Linux fanism by slimjim8094 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Conficker exploited Windows machines with an unpatched security hole. True, Microsoft had patched the hole but it shouldn't have been there in the first place.

      Using a default password to gain what is technologically legitimate access to the operating system is not a vulnerability.

      It's like phishing - the fact that someone is too stupid to use online banking safely doesn't imply that their computer was hacked.

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    4. Re:Linux fanism by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      If someone doesn't change the admin password on a piece of hardware, regardless of operating system, that's a configuration error. If, however, the worm targeted an exploit in the kernel stack, that would be something else entirely.

      So, in the case of your example, yes, that's correct.

    5. Re:Linux fanism by Svartalf · · Score: 1

      Considering that Conficker doesn't need misconfigured boxes to work (Keep in mind the true boneheaded nature of the problem- remote admin on and a default password...it's NOT the same thing...)- so, to quote youreself...

      Grow.
      Up.

      They're not the same thing and you need to get over yourself.

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    6. Re:Linux fanism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you trolling, or are you just a regular moron?

    7. Re:Linux fanism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do understand the difference between an actual bug causing a security problem and a deliberate choice to 'leave the front door open' don't you?

      Conficker took advantage of unpatched machines. so "a deliberate choice" was made to keep the systems unpatched. I would liken than the leaving the front door open. If you think Linux is immune, challenge someone to exploit an unpatched Linux machine ;) Although going by how easily Linux web servers are hacked and websites defaced every day.. having them patched doesn't seem to make much difference.

      But, hey, don't let the truth get in the way of some good old' ms bashing ! Always fun to watch linux nerds foam at the mouth on online forums.

  17. It's easy to get rid of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    "Because the Chuck Norris botnet lives in the router's RAM, it can be removed with a restart.

    Users who don't want to be infected can mitigate the risk -- the simplest way of doing this is by using a strong password on the router or modem. "

    1 - disconnect from internet
    2 - reset the router by removing the power for thirty seconds.
    3 - change the router's password.
            If you've never changed the router's settings:
            You could rtfm (read the fine manual).
            You can usually get to the router's settings from your browser. Try typing 192.168.1.1 into the the
            browser's URL bar.
            The browser will present you with a logon screen. The user name is often blank and the password is
            often 'admin'. That's the password you want to change. Don't change the password that logs you onto
            the internet. Stick a piece of tape onto the router and write on the new user name and password.
    4 - ???
    5 - profit!

    (sorry, I got carried away)

  18. Chuck Norris... by DarthVain · · Score: 2, Funny

    doesn't need computers in his Botnet, he just ...er infects routers and modems...

    and my all time favorite:

    Chuck Norris doesn't do push ups. He pushes the planet down.

    1. Re:Chuck Norris... by jobst · · Score: 1

      Chuck Norris doesn't do push ups. He pushes the planet down.

      Wrong! Let me explain this with the theory of relativity ... it depends entirely on the position of the viewer ... so your are wrong!

      Chuck Norris in fact is pushing the planet UP, so in fact he does do push ups.

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    2. Re:Chuck Norris... by DarthVain · · Score: 1

      So what your saying is...

      Definition of Theory of Relativity:

      Everything is relative to Chuck Norris.

  19. What now? by drej · · Score: 1

    The logical action one takes after reading a newspost such as this is to fix the holes/bugs mentioned in TFA. But...if it all happens in the name of Chuck Norris, should one really dare?

  20. Next up: by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

    The Leonidas botnet and the Techno Viking botnet team up to fight the Vin Diesel botnet and the Mr T botnet.
    The winner gets to rip Chuck Norris apart.

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  21. I can't stop..... by MooPi · · Score: 1

    Either the effects of insomnia are finally sending me over the edge or this is my favorite ./ thread ever. Besides has anyone ever seen a Chuck Norris round house. No because you can't.

  22. Chuck Norris will want Forced Vengeance (1982)... by saboola · · Score: 3, Funny

    ..I can not merely see him suffering Silent Rage (1982) over having a botnet named after him. He will attempt to get the researcher in a legal Code of Silence (1985) using A Force of One (1979) lawyer who will no doubt be Top Dog (1995) in his field.

  23. Verizon uses a stock password. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, they don't leave the default setting, but since they set every single machine to have a password of "password1" it's actually worse than using the default. Defaults occasionally change from model to model.

    The old westel modems they used to use derived their passwords from the MAC address in a predictable way.

    Fuckers are basically clueless.

  24. The manliest movie ever? by RulerOf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Please sell the movie rights to your idea.

    Now you've got me thinking... There needs to be a movie, starring Chuck Norris, of course, and a whole slew of people who'll get paid tons of cash due to their notoriety but be left out of the opening credits, where Chuck goes on a non-stop beyond-godlike multinational testosterone-fueled spree of death and pillage, without care for his own safety, in a man-with-nothing-to-lose odyssey to obtain some personally invaluable McGuffin, with obvious spots of intrigue and investigation, HUGE explosions that he just walks out of, and small tactical nukes that he disarms using nothing but his beard, all while his hands are tied behind his back (for the challenge, not because he couldn't break or slip the bonds).

    Something like a cross between Taken and 300, only so much manlier that he makes Leonidas look like a pussy.

    The world needs more awesome, gripping, extremely manly films that have good plots, and I submit that a decent director and screenwriter need to put Chuck into this role. For all our sakes.

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  25. Surf the net? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are allowed to surf the net, because Chuck Norris let you.

  26. Not always the user's fault by dlgeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are a lot of comments here laying the blame on dumb users, and I agree that they're often at fault, but sometimes the ISPs are to blame. I once had a cable provider (Brightstar, in Seattle) that gave me a combination modem/router that only had an extremely basic admin interface available - the only thing I could change was the WPA password. However, if you SSH'd in to the router from the outside (and only from the outside), you could log in with the default administrator username and password (found through google) and reconfigure almost everything through a horribly undocumented text interface. There's almost no way for a normal user to figure this out or change it, and if they did change the password, the ISP (who almost certainly is using this interface for mass-management) would probably be pretty upset.

    1. Re:Not always the user's fault by ekhben · · Score: 1

      An insecure CPE device is never the end user's fault.

      Device manufacturers have no reason to be shipping devices that, by default, expose any services to the external network. Bind to the internal network, and the scope of attack is reduced to people in wi-fi range; that sort of attack doesn't scale up to be significantly damaging.

      Network providers have no reason to be installing custom images that allow them remote access but also use the OEM's default password. Use a single nonce for all your devices if you don't have the capability to store a nonce for each customer, and at least the scope of attack is reduced to the service providers that the malware author can get default passwords for, instead of the much smaller set of default passwords each device provider uses.

      Device and service providers who are so close to going bust that the minute cost of these steps would push them over the edge are, in two words, already fucked.

  27. Security by dawilcox · · Score: 1

    Times like this make me grateful that I've chosen to use Windows instead of Linux.

    1. Re:Security by Max+Littlemore · · Score: 1

      Idiot. This effects routers. My Linux phone, PC and laptop are at no risk from this one. My router would be had I not changed the default password and ensured that remote admin is disabled. Most home windows users use linux in routers - you probably do and don't realise it.

      Of course if you use windows on your router, you are either a genius or you truly are an idiot.

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    2. Re:Security by spinach+and+eggs · · Score: 1

      But you're going to have to install Windows on your router, too, to really make sure you're not vulnerable.

  28. Jack Bauer by antdude · · Score: 2, Funny

    Jack Bauer could do better than Chuck Norris. :-P

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    1. Re:Jack Bauer by Karellen · · Score: 1

      If Chuck Norris had been the star of "24", it would have been called "1"

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  29. Great - so this can only affect 99% of US routers by dtolman · · Score: 1

    I have yet to see a router or dsl modem distributed by an ISP in the US that DIDN'T use the default user/password. First thing I did when I got mine was find the (undocumented) way to change the password.

    So pretty much the entire US is vulnerable to this...

  30. There goes my karma by abbynormal+brain · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hook, line and sinker ... I'm a sucker for CH jokes:

    1. Who's the only person who can slam a revolving door? A: Chuck Norris
    2. When an episode of Walker Texas Ranger was aired in France, the French surrendered to Chuck Norris just to be on the safe side.
    3. Superman can compress coal into diamonds. Pffft. Chuck Norris can stretch diamonds back out into coal.
    4. Chuck Norris maintains a concealed weapons license in all 50 states just to legally wear pants.
    etc

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    1. Re:There goes my karma by spartacus_prime · · Score: 1

      There is no ctrl button on Church Norris' computer. Chuck Norris is always in control.

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  31. I can see it now... by kenp2002 · · Score: 1

    First the universe comes into being once again when Chuck wakes up. He processes to scare the time-space fabric out of his way until he reaches the kitchen where he stares down the coffee pot till it spontaniously brews coffee. Grabbing a chicken from his hen house out back he round house kicks it catching the subsequently, and prefectly made sunny side up eggs in his mouth after they have flown around the world in 14 seconds. He boldly enters his home through a revolving door which his slams upon glancing at the paper's headline "Chuck Norris Botnet".

    He waits momentarily while the planet shifts upwards to place Chuck into his sofa as he grabs the phone. The phone out of sheer terror immediately dials the Italian PM who's normal black phone begins to glow a dark burgandy. Trembling the Italian PM picks up the phone when suddently Chuck grabs him by the throat THROUGH the phone stating simply, "I am about to give Italy a taste of my boot if you do not bring me this program by noon."

    Stammering the PM says, "But that's madness, it's 11:58 AM here!"

    Chuck smiles, "Madness? THIS IS NORRIS!" and round-house kicks the PM, again through the phone, so hard he finally lands in Sparta.

    The programmer was never head from again... he apaprently caught the first computer-to-human transmittable virus called the NORRIS-1C virus which causes you to spontaniously explode as if round house kicked...

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  32. And We See . . . by hduff · · Score: 1

    ... just how poor implementations decisions compromise security. Take any OS and install it with an easily obtainable root password and guess what? What could the manufacturers have been thinking that makes any kind of sense?

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  33. I pictured this differently... by ukemike · · Score: 1

    When I read this headline I imagined A stack of 15 routers on two cinderblocks and Chuck chopping through the whole stack.

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  34. Re:Great - so this can only affect 99% of US route by dbcad7 · · Score: 1

    distributed by an ISP in the US that DIDN'T use the default user/password

    I disagree.. the ISP suppled modem and router/modem combo have either a unique modem access code, or require you to create a password upon setting it up. (at least that's the way AT&T does it).. It's when people buy a modem or router themselves (usually to save a buck) that they end up with something that has the easily guessed username & password.

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  35. Re:Great - so this can only affect 99% of US route by ajlitt · · Score: 1

    The 2wire DSL routers that AT&T installs have a unique factory-programmed WPA key and admin password. They're printed on a label on the bottom of the router.

  36. Chuck Norris doesn't need a firewall by Hazelfield · · Score: 1

    The Internet needs a firewall to protect itself from Chuck Norris.

  37. For those who didn't RTFA by damn_registrars · · Score: 1
    I was about to ask the obvious question of what this botnet is doing with a collection of routers at its command. Then I read the article:

    Right now Chuck Norris-infected machines can be used to attack other systems on the Internet, in what are known as distributed denial of service attacks. The botnet can launch a password-guessing dictionary attack on another computer, and it can also change the DNS (Domain Name System) settings in the router. With this attack, victims on the router's network who think they are connecting to Facebook or Google end up redirected to a malicious Web page that then tries to install a virus on their computers.

    Which I guess is actually pretty clever. The botnet recruits routers with minimal effort, and gets about as much out of them as it can. Unfortunately for the botnet masters the technique has an obvious Achille's Heel:

    Because the Chuck Norris botnet lives in the router's RAM, it can be removed with a restart

    Although they also mention

    It is controlled via IRC

    Which is pretty common for a lot of botnets. This does leave an obvious prevention tactic for ISPs; they could ship out routers configured to reject all IRC traffic. They likely wouldn't receive any complaints as anyone who uses IRC would likely know how to check their routers to ensure the traffic is allowed.

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    1. Re:For those who didn't RTFA by ekhben · · Score: 1

      The bot owns the router. If you rely on a setting in the router to prevent the owned router from causing harm, you've already failed.

      Heh, software firewalls.

  38. Schneier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    safe from Chuck Norris??

    Bruce Schneier.

  39. Chuck Norris has no need for a router by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in Chuck Norris' network there is no router... packets route themselves out of respect for Chuck Norris...

  40. Did my DD-WRT get rooted? by KWTm · · Score: 1

    I'd like to tap the powers of the Slashdot hivemind in seeing whether I might have been roundhouse-kicked by Chuck Norris; ie. has my router been rooted?

    A few years ago I bought a Linksys WRT54GL router, in support of it being explicitly Linux compatible (in fact, I bought two of them --I really wanted to send a message to Linksys). I flashed DD-WRT onto it, and had been using it as a usual router through my DSL line, with DHCP, wireless (at first WEP but later WPA), and port forwarding (a high-numbered port would forward from the Internet into the SSH port 22 on my server).

    Lately I have had two problems with it: in the past half to one year, I haven't been able to SSH from outside into my server (I can do it within my home network, so the SSH server is not the problem). More recently, I tried to do something-or-other on the net (I think it was play a BZFlag game?) and it said, "Your IP address, , is known to be an open proxy relay so we're not letting you connect."

    If I suspect that the problems I've been having are due to malware/crackers, am I being paranoid?

    Possible flaws in my security include: I enabled SSHd on the router, password based SSH (but I changed the default password of course), I was broadcasting my wireless SSID (required because my wife's vaunted MS Vista system didn't know how to handle hidden SSID's!), and I was using an old version of DD-WRT that I hadn't bothered to update. (I think it was Build#4000 or something, and the current build is #16000 or something.) However: I only briefly allowed SSH access from the Internet WAN and otherwise limited to SSH access from LAN, and I did not allow router admin access by wireless: the computer would have to be connected by ethernet.

    Does DD-WRT have security flaws? Should I switch to something else like OpenWRT or the Tomato Router (or something like that)?

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  41. I call BS by eladts · · Score: 1

    This story smells like a hoax to me. All the reports seem to be same, offering no real evidence that such a botnet exists. Knowing the admin password allows local attacker to configure the router and even upload a custom firmware, but remotely zombifying routers is much more difficult.

  42. That's his chin, not his beard. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His chin is another fist, and it disguised itself by growing a beard.

    It's like the Chinese proverb of the Perfect Spear versus the Impenetrable Shield thing, you just don't go there. That's why no boxers ever boxed Chuck Norris with his arms and legs tied, just like no wrestlers would wrestle Mike Tyson.

  43. Re:Great - so this can only affect 99% of US route by dtolman · · Score: 1

    In the NY area at least, all the Verizon DSL Modems are at factory defaults.

    So maybe the problem is only with certain ISPs.

  44. This is a new Chuck Norris Fact by ngkabra · · Score: 1

    Wait.

    Isn't the syntactically correct way of saying this:

    Chuck Norris does not get a PC virus. PCs get a Chuck Norris virus.

  45. Sucks for me by dushkin · · Score: 1

    My ISP-provided has a web interface that I can't disable despite my efforts and a tech support backdoor always open. :(

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  46. re: Chuck Norris verse Linux-Based Routers by hittjw · · Score: 1

    While it's beyond doubt that Chuck Norris would win in a fight between him and Linux-Based routers. He would have a tougher time if more systems administrators would use KeePass. That should be an interview question and vendors should know better than having default passwords. Otherwise, Chuck Norris will kick your ass.

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  47. this sucks by MrBrklyn · · Score: 1

    This sucks because many people igore those devices since they are installed by the ISP.

    I don't even think about them. I want them to do as little as possible.

    Ruben

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