You could chalk that up to having sufficient thrust to overcoming the need for wings, but even if the wings weren't actually aerodynamic, they would still be affected by aerodynamic forces.
The X-Wing doesn't fly in atmospheres whilst in the X configuration, as any rookie starpilot straight out of training knows. To fly in an atmosphere, the X-Wing must first close it's wings, creating two wings out of the usual four and allowing atmospheric flight.
Unlike Earth aircraft, which only have a curved upper surface, X-Wings have curved surfaces both above and below the wing when in the closed position, allowing for extended inverted flight.
Such are the wonders of the subtle distortion in the laws of physics when one travels to a galaxy far, far away.
Look at it this way - if I asked my company for permission to speak candidly, and it was granted, and then I told them that I'd been stealing stuff from them, or selling secrets to the competition, I'd be fired. Not because I spoke candidly, but because of what I said.
No you wouldn't, you'd be fired for what you did. Big difference there.
If you asked to speak candidly at a meeting, were given permission and you stood up and said "Our products suck, no one I know likes them and we're a laughing stock", a good company would maybe want to hear more details as part of an improvement process.
Then again, maybe if you work for a company that's a laughing stock, inability to take criticism is probably a respect aspect of the corporate culture and being fired might look good on the CV.
if it's way off from our 24-hour day or 365~ day year, people would have a harder time adjusting than if it were simply lower gravity or hot or cold.
I agree. And if someone reverses Venus's spin, accelerates it to a 24 hour day and speeds its orbit around the sun, hey, I'm packing my shorts and moving there!
You can stick your head in the sand and pretend it's not so, but even so, some hapless customer will save his latest contract draft in Word and email it to me for review - personally, I'd like to read it.
This argument cuts both ways and highlights the importance of open standards. I don't have windows at home, and my wife (definitely non techie - doesn't know the difference between a binary and its icon) doesn't want windows at home. Businesses that insist on communicating via windows specific technology get marked down.
Her indoors is currently doing an online course with a private company that specified that she submit all work in doc format - after she had signed up. She asked if pdf was okay and the instructor said yes. A while into the course, her instructor changed and the new one couldn't even figure out how to open a pdf. She insisted on word documents.
The ball and chain insisted on her money back if she couldn't submit in pdf, because nowhere in the advertising material or documentation did it mention having to buy software from a foreign monopoly to participate in the course until after the money was paid - my words, not hers.
Her instructor knows how to open a pdf now.
In my personal dealings with companies that want my business, I press save in open office and send the resulting file. If they can't read them, I ask them how they want them saved. I then usually save them as word documents and suggest they upgrade their office suite to one that can communicate with people who don't have word.
If MS just bit the bullet and adopted ODF, interoperability would be so good. I understand they want to monopolise the desktop, but seriously, at home, why the fuck should I pay a foriegn company for an operating system? I support the machines myself, it's not like it's a corporate environment where support contracts are important. I refuse to pay Microsoft for their crap, and I don't particularly see the need to spend the crap loads of unjustified markup on OSX (even higher and less justified in Australia then the rest of the world).
OOXML is not an implementable spec and ODF is so if businesses want to communicate with the widest possible range of customers, use a format accessible to everyone.
the interface is a crime against logic, nature and makes me revise my opinion on whether or not true Evil exists.
Funnily enough, that's what I thought the first time I encountered vi....
It's a shame the interface doesn't work for you. I'm not a professional graphics guy, sound is more my bag, but I used to do compositing for a living and my brother currently does 3D graphics professionally and both of us agree blender is an excellent tool - especially in terms of productivity. Once you get past the need to learn special keys and modes and such, it really is so quick to do things that take forever in other interfaces. I guess it's horses for courses.
Just remember to run it on Linux - I don't know about OSX, but it's very slow on windows
Not to sound too cliche, but this is just another example of why Linux / FOSS users and advocates are looked down upon by the real forces in the computer industry and why Linux will never be a mainstream standard.
I was in total agreement with you until this point. I understand that there is still a perception that Linux in general maintained by overly pedantic geeks, but for the most part it's only a few distros that rare like this. Debian is the worst for perpetual pendantry IMHO, and that's the reason I no longer use it. It's not a commercial Linux distro and is possibly best seen as a distro for propeller heads who think "RTFM!" is usually the appropriate response to support queries.
Debian is not the sum total of Linux and plenty of others have pushed this update.
You keep talking about international law like it was a universal power.
No. International law is nothing. So if a bunch of towel heads bomb the united states of god's own fucking asylum, why the fuck should I care??? (Hint - that's called irony - I know americans and liberals don't understand irony, but I'll try anyway...)
You are blaming the US for the Arab on Arab violence that is going on in Iraq?
No, but a bit stupid invading a country with so much underlying conflict don't you think? And the folks who invaded knew what they were doing when they decided to invade, by the way...oil?.
I assume that anyone that tries to talk to you about these topics has become weary of your incoherent thought and ends up just walking away scratching their head wondering where in the world you views come from.
Ummmm, that's really a bit stupid for you to say. My "incohrent thought" contains a little thing called "pragmatic logic", y'know, like they use in Europe?
Of course, I'm probably talking to an American, so let me dumb it down a bit....
People I talk to agree. But then they're mostly educated Australians and some Americans I'm currently working with. Intelligent people are all a bit sick of the stupidity of two parties that ignore what we think.
I kind of wish I was dead now.
Sorry to see you're willing to give up. Maybe, given that your attitude seems that of a dinosaur it's right, but it's still sad. RIP
The reality is that the Bush administration launched an invasion of a soveriegn state without a UN mandate and against international law. They did it to secure oil. There was no UN mandate for war and insufficient evidence at the time of the invasion that Iraq had failed to comply with its obliqations under previous resolutions. So in reality, glue or no glue, the US administration, along with the gang called "the coalition of the willing" commited armed robbery, human rights abuses, torture, used illegal munitions in civilian areas, etc, etc, etc. This is true and no amount of contradiction is going to erase that record.
The U.S. Armed forces isn't responsible for the senseless killing that are going on in Iraq. You have years of pay backs being dealt out from the majority that repressed by a minority.
When christians have been thrown in the ring in the circus and the lions are released, do you blame the lions for the bloodshed? The whole world would love to accept the US as the ultimate beacon of freedom and truth if the US didn't behave like a psychopathic armed robber and then refuse to take full responsibility for crimes.
I guess in a society without a second amendment, the thugs rule.
I'm not sure what a second amendment is, I don't think my country has one. I do know that the US is currently ruled by thugs and criminals. I also know that the US refuses to submit to international law, yet inists on forcing, under threat of violence, other countries to submit to US interpretation of international law.
That is not championing freedom. That is not spreading democracy. That is criminality and if a precedent is set now, how much will future administrations be able to get away with before Hitlers Germany is repeated in th US. Hitler was very popular in Central Europe in the 1930s and there are many parallels between 1930s Germany and 2000s United States of America. The US does not subject itself to international law and if a second Hitler gets the presidency in the US, the international courts will have no power to put them on trial. But you just let them keep killing people to protect the american dream because it's obviously okay, as long as the people they kidnap, torture and kill are not US citizens, they aren't really humans, are they?
My country is not free of guilt on this. I have read a legal opinion that at least three major government figures including the prime minister breached our federal criminal code over their support for the Gauntanimo Bay process. This is something I am writing letters to MPs about here. I hold no illusion that just becuase they pick foreigners and easy targets they are somehow less evil than figures like Saddam. And if we let this load of criminals get away with it, the next lot will push things that bit further.
As for Saddam and Ahmedinejad bad guys reap what they sow.
So when are you guys going to execute Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush?
Step outside of a US centric view of the world and look at the broader picture. Just because they aren't killing US citizens on a huge scale, doesn't mean they aren't evil. They have orchestrated armed robbery of Iraq. Cluster bombs in civilian areas. Orders of magnitude more deaths as a result of "liberation" than under Saddam. An all for oil, as Greenspan has confirmed.
Seriously, if you don't want to except international courts, them at least have the balls to have Bush executed in Texas.
It was a compromise for an ethnicity that has claims on many territories but has been the subject of state and private terrorism for thousands of years.
The majority of immigrants that founded the modern state of Isreal have as much genetic relationship to the Isrealites as I have. before WWII, the palestinians, including descendants of the isrealites got along relatively well compared to people in say, eastern Europe and Central Asia where ethnic rivalries and genocide have been the norm for a long time.
The British deal basically moved a people largely descended from another central Asian ethnic group into the Middle East.
Before the disgusting events in Europe under Nazi occupation, the Zionist movement was heavily involved in terrorism. The British deal was out of symapthy, but it was with this group of terrorists and their sympathizers.
My sympathy for the jewish people is far outweighed by my disgust at the actions of zionists. I have no problems with jewish people living in peace anywhere, I do have a problem with the support by major world powers of zionist criminality. The zionists that lobbied, hijacked and bombed for the creation of Isreal are not descendants of Abraham.
More mature people will begin to question why we are required to fight wars with other countries, why we continue to get deeper in debt fighting other countries , why we critisize other countries before our own in election speeches.
along with some photocopied manuals in Arabic, I would have that observer drop a dime on you as fast as it falls...
And shit for brains.
Do you wonder why Americans and the "free world" are threatened with terrorist activity? I mean it obviously couldn't have anything to do with how you select arbitrary groups of people around the world, demonize them to make it appear moraly okay to rob them, persecute, terrorise them and kill them to further your interests?
Could it be that so many of your most vocal and prominant figures are so obviously either corrupt or stupid? Or the fact that you insist on challenging other nations for their transgressions with regard to international law and being the world's police force while your own agencies completely disregard the rule of law, as this case highlights?
No, it's probably because every one else is jealous of your freedom.
Big fucking rant here, but I am so sick of seeing absolute shit like that re-inforcing propaganda on a site that is supposed to be a bit more intelligent than the usual fare. Terrorist manuals are avaliable in many languages. Copies of the SAS handbook, anarchist cookbook, etc are out there and they are not in arabic.
I personally feel safer about Iran having a nuclear program than I do about the US having one. How many wars have Iran started in the last 50 years? How about the United States? In those wars, which nation has used WMDs? Which nation has supplied more WMDs to other nations to fight proxy wars? Which nation has taken a decade to go from cooperation to war with at least two former allies?
Sure, Iran has threatened Isreal, but Isreal is a state born from terrorism with a total lack of regard for international law. It is a state that continues to commit human rights abuses on the population it has displaced through the theft of land. It has developed nuclear weapons, refused to sign the NNPT and given it's total disregard for the humanity of any nation around it, and the fact that Iran supports the Palestinian people, I think it is much more likely that Isreal will be the agressor in any nuclear exchange in the middle East. I support Irans nuclear program if for no other reason than to keep Isreal in check.
Your own government commits human rights abuses and supports foreign governments that commit human rights abuses. The most extreme abuses are of course reserved for non citizens, but I believe in the rule of law and a crime is a crime. Please fuck off with your propaganda, it insults my intelligence. And don't come back with that fucking US centric democrat voting liberal shit. I don't understand your political divisions and I don't want to. My opinions are my opinions, this post is predominantly fact.
Sincerest apologies to any intelligent americans who can see through the propaganda but feel insulted by the strong language in this rant.
The relevant contrast with Microsoft is that their kitchen is closed and locked. The diners aren't allowed in, and Microsoft doesn't even want health inspectors to get a peek. No one should know what the ingredients are....
Reminds me of another large company starting with an "M"
No idea what's in it except for all the worst offcuts of lips and arseholes, tastes like shit, bad for your health but very profitable and now an international phenomenon.
Baby Boomers (of which I am one, and about which you know nothing) are not a homogenous group to be lumped together in your stereotypingm and have not claimed to created or invented everything, at least not any more than any other cohort has.
Pffft. Me me me! Look at me! I'm an individual! Typical baby boomer.;-P
When I say "I don't believe in atoms" I'm not saying "I believe atoms don't exist". Elvis Presley is dead, but not all of the class of dead people is Elvis Presley.
I'm saying the atom is a model that helps us understand the universe; it's a useful mental construct rather than a concrete fact. Without humans to assert them, atoms don't exist, even if the effects we attribute to the existence of atoms remain. How could we possibly know fo certain that the universe doesn't instantly turn into a giant marshmallow the moment humans stop looking?
My whole point through this entire thread is that the only constant immutable fact in the universe is change and when pouring scorn on other theories, just remember the "facts" on which you base your arguments are also theoretical.
You just confirmed my point. I mean the 1st thing about atoms. Check the model. I don't believe atoms are real, but I accept they are useful. Many thanks.
Seeing as how I cannot prove I exist and yet my awareness confirms existence, I can only assume that what I call knowing power is a factor of/.
BTW, if a cat shits on your lawn, blame Schroedinger,
Aaaaaaaw shit.... here am I, all knowing, and some cat shits in my boot and....
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I'm hoping they try a manned flight. Landing shouldn't be a problem if they use the force...
The X-Wing doesn't fly in atmospheres whilst in the X configuration, as any rookie starpilot straight out of training knows. To fly in an atmosphere, the X-Wing must first close it's wings, creating two wings out of the usual four and allowing atmospheric flight.
Unlike Earth aircraft, which only have a curved upper surface, X-Wings have curved surfaces both above and below the wing when in the closed position, allowing for extended inverted flight.
Such are the wonders of the subtle distortion in the laws of physics when one travels to a galaxy far, far away.
No you wouldn't, you'd be fired for what you did. Big difference there.
If you asked to speak candidly at a meeting, were given permission and you stood up and said "Our products suck, no one I know likes them and we're a laughing stock", a good company would maybe want to hear more details as part of an improvement process.
Then again, maybe if you work for a company that's a laughing stock, inability to take criticism is probably a respect aspect of the corporate culture and being fired might look good on the CV.
I suppose we could cull the hurd but, seeing as there's never a stable version and noone uses it or really cares, what would we gain?
Oh herd, sorry, my mistake... carry on...
I agree. And if someone reverses Venus's spin, accelerates it to a 24 hour day and speeds its orbit around the sun, hey, I'm packing my shorts and moving there!
This argument cuts both ways and highlights the importance of open standards. I don't have windows at home, and my wife (definitely non techie - doesn't know the difference between a binary and its icon) doesn't want windows at home. Businesses that insist on communicating via windows specific technology get marked down.
Her indoors is currently doing an online course with a private company that specified that she submit all work in doc format - after she had signed up. She asked if pdf was okay and the instructor said yes. A while into the course, her instructor changed and the new one couldn't even figure out how to open a pdf. She insisted on word documents.
The ball and chain insisted on her money back if she couldn't submit in pdf, because nowhere in the advertising material or documentation did it mention having to buy software from a foreign monopoly to participate in the course until after the money was paid - my words, not hers.
Her instructor knows how to open a pdf now.
In my personal dealings with companies that want my business, I press save in open office and send the resulting file. If they can't read them, I ask them how they want them saved. I then usually save them as word documents and suggest they upgrade their office suite to one that can communicate with people who don't have word.
If MS just bit the bullet and adopted ODF, interoperability would be so good. I understand they want to monopolise the desktop, but seriously, at home, why the fuck should I pay a foriegn company for an operating system? I support the machines myself, it's not like it's a corporate environment where support contracts are important. I refuse to pay Microsoft for their crap, and I don't particularly see the need to spend the crap loads of unjustified markup on OSX (even higher and less justified in Australia then the rest of the world).
OOXML is not an implementable spec and ODF is so if businesses want to communicate with the widest possible range of customers, use a format accessible to everyone.
Send only ODF and include a link to a free ODF import/export plugin for word.
Funnily enough, that's what I thought the first time I encountered vi....
It's a shame the interface doesn't work for you. I'm not a professional graphics guy, sound is more my bag, but I used to do compositing for a living and my brother currently does 3D graphics professionally and both of us agree blender is an excellent tool - especially in terms of productivity. Once you get past the need to learn special keys and modes and such, it really is so quick to do things that take forever in other interfaces. I guess it's horses for courses.
Just remember to run it on Linux - I don't know about OSX, but it's very slow on windows
Some people don't like blender's UI like some people don't like vi.
Once you spend the time (say a day or two) it's really quick and productive. The UI is a major asset.
I was in total agreement with you until this point. I understand that there is still a perception that Linux in general maintained by overly pedantic geeks, but for the most part it's only a few distros that rare like this. Debian is the worst for perpetual pendantry IMHO, and that's the reason I no longer use it. It's not a commercial Linux distro and is possibly best seen as a distro for propeller heads who think "RTFM!" is usually the appropriate response to support queries.
Debian is not the sum total of Linux and plenty of others have pushed this update.
And seeing as you're not wearing a tea towel-you're allowed to enter1
You, number 3226, are wearing a tea towel with menace! you are an enemy of the united states of Amiracle and will die in gitmo!
No.
International law is nothing. So if a bunch of towel heads bomb the united states of god's own fucking asylum, why the fuck should I care??? (Hint - that's called irony - I know americans and liberals don't understand irony, but I'll try anyway...)
No, but a bit stupid invading a country with so much underlying conflict don't you think? And the folks who invaded knew what they were doing when they decided to invade, by the way...oil?.
Ummmm, that's really a bit stupid for you to say. My "incohrent thought" contains a little thing called "pragmatic logic", y'know, like they use in Europe?
Of course, I'm probably talking to an American, so let me dumb it down a bit....
People I talk to agree. But then they're mostly educated Australians and some Americans I'm currently working with. Intelligent people are all a bit sick of the stupidity of two parties that ignore what we think.
Sorry to see you're willing to give up. Maybe, given that your attitude seems that of a dinosaur it's right, but it's still sad. RIP
The reality is that the Bush administration launched an invasion of a soveriegn state without a UN mandate and against international law. They did it to secure oil. There was no UN mandate for war and insufficient evidence at the time of the invasion that Iraq had failed to comply with its obliqations under previous resolutions. So in reality, glue or no glue, the US administration, along with the gang called "the coalition of the willing" commited armed robbery, human rights abuses, torture, used illegal munitions in civilian areas, etc, etc, etc. This is true and no amount of contradiction is going to erase that record.
When christians have been thrown in the ring in the circus and the lions are released, do you blame the lions for the bloodshed? The whole world would love to accept the US as the ultimate beacon of freedom and truth if the US didn't behave like a psychopathic armed robber and then refuse to take full responsibility for crimes.
I'm not sure what a second amendment is, I don't think my country has one. I do know that the US is currently ruled by thugs and criminals. I also know that the US refuses to submit to international law, yet inists on forcing, under threat of violence, other countries to submit to US interpretation of international law.
That is not championing freedom. That is not spreading democracy. That is criminality and if a precedent is set now, how much will future administrations be able to get away with before Hitlers Germany is repeated in th US. Hitler was very popular in Central Europe in the 1930s and there are many parallels between 1930s Germany and 2000s United States of America. The US does not subject itself to international law and if a second Hitler gets the presidency in the US, the international courts will have no power to put them on trial. But you just let them keep killing people to protect the american dream because it's obviously okay, as long as the people they kidnap, torture and kill are not US citizens, they aren't really humans, are they?
My country is not free of guilt on this. I have read a legal opinion that at least three major government figures including the prime minister breached our federal criminal code over their support for the Gauntanimo Bay process. This is something I am writing letters to MPs about here. I hold no illusion that just becuase they pick foreigners and easy targets they are somehow less evil than figures like Saddam. And if we let this load of criminals get away with it, the next lot will push things that bit further.
So when are you guys going to execute Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush?
Step outside of a US centric view of the world and look at the broader picture. Just because they aren't killing US citizens on a huge scale, doesn't mean they aren't evil. They have orchestrated armed robbery of Iraq. Cluster bombs in civilian areas. Orders of magnitude more deaths as a result of "liberation" than under Saddam. An all for oil, as Greenspan has confirmed.
Seriously, if you don't want to except international courts, them at least have the balls to have Bush executed in Texas.
The majority of immigrants that founded the modern state of Isreal have as much genetic relationship to the Isrealites as I have. before WWII, the palestinians, including descendants of the isrealites got along relatively well compared to people in say, eastern Europe and Central Asia where ethnic rivalries and genocide have been the norm for a long time.
The British deal basically moved a people largely descended from another central Asian ethnic group into the Middle East.
Before the disgusting events in Europe under Nazi occupation, the Zionist movement was heavily involved in terrorism. The British deal was out of symapthy, but it was with this group of terrorists and their sympathizers.
My sympathy for the jewish people is far outweighed by my disgust at the actions of zionists. I have no problems with jewish people living in peace anywhere, I do have a problem with the support by major world powers of zionist criminality. The zionists that lobbied, hijacked and bombed for the creation of Isreal are not descendants of Abraham.
Not quite. Communism is to democracy as an apple is to a faulty hand-brake.
There, fixed that for you
And shit for brains.
Do you wonder why Americans and the "free world" are threatened with terrorist activity? I mean it obviously couldn't have anything to do with how you select arbitrary groups of people around the world, demonize them to make it appear moraly okay to rob them, persecute, terrorise them and kill them to further your interests?
Could it be that so many of your most vocal and prominant figures are so obviously either corrupt or stupid? Or the fact that you insist on challenging other nations for their transgressions with regard to international law and being the world's police force while your own agencies completely disregard the rule of law, as this case highlights?
No, it's probably because every one else is jealous of your freedom.
Big fucking rant here, but I am so sick of seeing absolute shit like that re-inforcing propaganda on a site that is supposed to be a bit more intelligent than the usual fare. Terrorist manuals are avaliable in many languages. Copies of the SAS handbook, anarchist cookbook, etc are out there and they are not in arabic.
I personally feel safer about Iran having a nuclear program than I do about the US having one. How many wars have Iran started in the last 50 years? How about the United States? In those wars, which nation has used WMDs? Which nation has supplied more WMDs to other nations to fight proxy wars? Which nation has taken a decade to go from cooperation to war with at least two former allies?
Sure, Iran has threatened Isreal, but Isreal is a state born from terrorism with a total lack of regard for international law. It is a state that continues to commit human rights abuses on the population it has displaced through the theft of land. It has developed nuclear weapons, refused to sign the NNPT and given it's total disregard for the humanity of any nation around it, and the fact that Iran supports the Palestinian people, I think it is much more likely that Isreal will be the agressor in any nuclear exchange in the middle East. I support Irans nuclear program if for no other reason than to keep Isreal in check.
Your own government commits human rights abuses and supports foreign governments that commit human rights abuses. The most extreme abuses are of course reserved for non citizens, but I believe in the rule of law and a crime is a crime. Please fuck off with your propaganda, it insults my intelligence. And don't come back with that fucking US centric democrat voting liberal shit. I don't understand your political divisions and I don't want to. My opinions are my opinions, this post is predominantly fact.
Sincerest apologies to any intelligent americans who can see through the propaganda but feel insulted by the strong language in this rant.
That would be completely ridiculous. George would never bribe Johnny.
Unless of course by "bribe" you mean "threaten to withold sexual favours".
If they set up a one sided flux distribution, this wont be a problem.
...then again, maybe subjecting all the passengers to strong magnetic fields has its upside....
Reminds me of another large company starting with an "M"
No idea what's in it except for all the worst offcuts of lips and arseholes, tastes like shit, bad for your health but very profitable and now an international phenomenon.
Special sauce, Cancel or Allow?
Sure, sure, whatever you say.
Just don't be offended if I don't shake your hand buddy.
Yet another excellent reason to wash your hands when you go to the toilet...
...actually, let me clarify that. A good reason to wash your hands after you go to the toilet.
Washing them when you go is disgusting.
Pffft. Me me me! Look at me! I'm an individual! Typical baby boomer. ;-P
When I say "I don't believe in atoms" I'm not saying "I believe atoms don't exist". Elvis Presley is dead, but not all of the class of dead people is Elvis Presley.
I'm saying the atom is a model that helps us understand the universe; it's a useful mental construct rather than a concrete fact. Without humans to assert them, atoms don't exist, even if the effects we attribute to the existence of atoms remain. How could we possibly know fo certain that the universe doesn't instantly turn into a giant marshmallow the moment humans stop looking?
My whole point through this entire thread is that the only constant immutable fact in the universe is change and when pouring scorn on other theories, just remember the "facts" on which you base your arguments are also theoretical.
You just confirmed my point. I mean the 1st thing about atoms. Check the model. I don't believe atoms are real, but I accept they are useful. Many thanks.
Seeing as how I cannot prove I exist and yet my awareness confirms existence, I can only assume that what I call knowing power is a factor of /.
BTW, if a cat shits on your lawn, blame Schroedinger,
Aaaaaaaw shit.... here am I, all knowing, and some cat shits in my boot and....