Look, if hitler convinced their entire nation it was okay to kill millions... I definitely think video games could have the impact this guy is preaching about *LOL*
Along with it.. Pong, scrabble and monopoly should also be banned.
I don't get politicians, the few people that have a chance to make an impact on their societal structure, instead focus on things that have virtually none what-so-ever, aside from Al Gore who never got elected. (Watch "An Inconvenient Truth")..
If he was, we wouldn't even be in Iraq and the trillions spent on establishing democratic ties in the east (and killing thousands upon thousands) would have been spent on saving our sorry asses from global warming.
Anyways, yes stop the terrible video games!!! they are definitely the most horrific thing
going on in our society... Aldous huxley was right.. historians will look back and see that our social norms of present day society were the most deluded and insane..
How can you take a neural network and train it, then patent that? That's like patenting training a dog to fetch a stick, it's completely rediculous.
You take software capable of generalizing a neural network algorithm by feeding it pictures and associating each picture with certain tags. It then creates a generalized algorithm model based on what you fed it initially. So that when you give new input it is capable of outputting tags most similar to what you initially trained it.
So yes this software can recognize boxes, shapes, other objects, maybe scenes etc and associate them with tags... but ask them how the algorithm works under the hood =) They have no idea... a neural network is like a black box after it has been trained. You feed it input and it gives you output based on it's initial training. The inner workings are chaotic spaghetti values set on each neuron weighting and can't be deciphered.
How can you patent software that is a black box inside?
"Yes hello patent office? I have this box that manufactures microprocessors. I feed it all the materials and it outputs a shiny new processor. I am not sure of the manufacturing process internally but the output works great. I would like to patent this manufacturing process.
"Okay your patent number is 247286-"BLACK BOX"-9
The whole point of a neural network is it generalizes what you train it and can future predict any input based on that.
It's like having the invention of the first mirror and everytime someone put something different infront of it, that person called up the art gallery because they had a new painting that they wanted in their name (because depending what was in front of it you get a different reflection).
If you have the alexa tool bar and you check your website a few times a day. Your rating will improve by 100,000's. =) My traffic hasn't changed for www.housefox.ca at all in the past year but it has gone from an alexa ranking of 200,000 to 580,000 in a period of 6 months because I stopped checking it daily own my computer with the alexa bar installed.
Seriously, I can't believe anyone would take this seriously. Changes can take place over just 3000 years but only subtle. Evolution for the human species at this point is so up in the air. And this sad attempt to predict it is laughable.
People that should live are living so we are polluting our gene pools in ways we don't know yet. diseases are treated and people with these disease that normally wouldn't are having children. People that can't have kids.. are because of certain expensive invitro procedures..
Look at how similar we are as specicies from asia, canada, europe, us. Why haven't we changed this drastically over the previous 10K years? I think this guy should change his day job to something like, library story teller for children in the mornings.
All i can say is this prediction is just stupid.. go back to the drawing board. Thanks for ammusing us and I would be embarrased if I were the one that came out with this information.
I refuse to use yahoo services. It's almost like early catholicism lol.. the only justification for such action is purely trying to control control control.. When you start losing something you grip even tighter to try and hang on. Seriously do they have board meetings and decide.. "okay today we are going to block youtube.com" muahahahahah our users will thanks us? It's purely in yahoo's interest not their users and any customer should avoid using a service when that service isn't strictly about the consumer.
So here's a question that really puts happiness of an activity to the test. If you were going to die 1 year from today. Would you spend every night playing WoW or actually get out and experience real life? I guarantee the answer isn't, "I would sit in my basement staring at a screen burning the midnight oil while I interact with my virtual world that I can make whatever I want happen". lmao
The only attraction to this type of game is for people who's lives haven't developed the way they want, now having the ability to create a virtual world that one can be proud of. The irony being these people are now dedicating even more time to not accomplishing anything the desire in the real world. It's perfect!!! You losers keep playing WoW, well us winners will keep doing what made us winners in the first place.
Some will say who am I to judge a person for playing this MMORPG for 4+ hours a night. But the real question is, how l deluded do you have to be to justify otherwise?
Staring at a screen for 8 hours a day is delusional not happiness. Any sane person is completely deluded if they think they have found happiness sitting in a chair clicking and blinking for 1/3 of their day. I think the real issue at hand is, these people playing for this duration are already in some state of depression. I couldn't imagine anything more depressing than knowing I stared at a screen for 1 entire year out of the last 4 years.
"It's not like she's on drugs"
Yeah I can't imagine my mom smoking pot instead? lmao.. She might actually feel good, socialize with real people, eat more, ponder life or philosophy, and get the munchies...
Anyone that plays Wow to an extreme of +4 hours a day leads such a sedentary lifestyle that they resemble Mr. Burns on weight gainer. These people are at higher risks for cancer, diabetes and strongly associated with weight gain and obesity. Study
Anyone that plays MMORPG's for more than a few hours a week should be shot in the face. They obviously are social outcasts whos lives are shit and who have failed at real relationships.
I think anyone escaping into a world that isn't interacting in the real world for 8 hours a day definitely suffers from depression, social anxiety or some other form of mental illness yes. They are escaping.. it's classical psychology. Unless your a monk and you are in some meditative state trying to find enlightenment I think 8 hours of any activity is grossly much.
I wasn't insinuating anything. I was outright saying, I think anyone doing this needs to be on a medication and/or speaking with a therapist to solve their underlying problems. It's not even borderline compulsion at that point.. it is classic compulsive behaviour.
All Wow players playing +4 hours a day should be put on an exchange program with a 3rd world country citizen. They obviously need a wake up call.
I moved out when i finished college in 2002. You can't change any individual no matter how hard you try. They have to want to change. Just a general rule...
She literally had a computer built that cost 6K just a couple months ago so that she could enjoy the full experience of her game. =)
I understand that it makes her happy, I just think that it needs to be in moderation.
People who think like you do far more harm to this world than some loner in his parents basement playing videogames.
Hahaha, dude you need to relax. You responded like I made some anti-semetic remark. All I am saying is anyone playing WOW for 4+ hours every single night might want to consider taking up a different hobby. I mean 4 hours a week at the gym means I go 4 nights a week and in a year I would be looking so great. But 4+ hours a night??? how can anyone even justify this kind of hobby?
I am fine with any kind of game play and I don't consider it wasteful just as you mentioned. However, when it becomes compulsive and you just have to get on there and get your daily fix I think a person needs to re-evaluate where MMORPG's stand in their lives.
BTW, about your remark in regards to poor writing. I am a software geek, not an english major.;) So take some time away from your game, edit my post and email it to me. lmao
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It's easy to say I am simply thinking negatively and trying to make someone feel bad, who is feeling good. But I am not talking about all MMORPG players, I am talking about the ones that literally play every day for a long period of time. They neglect family, friends and even themselves. There is a big difference between doing something because you think it makes you temporarily happy and actually being happy.
I agree that society has primed and groomed us to be productive little bees and defines success in terms of appearance and wealth. And I definitely don't agree with this sort of upbringing. I do however think that playing a video game for 8 hours a night to be a problem; plain and simple.
No matter how you wanna justify it, staring and clicking for 8 hours a day as a hobby is unhealthy and wrong:)
Actually i said any single activity for 4-8 hours. And I didn't mean just once, but literally thousands are spending each and every day 4-8 hours escaping into virtual world because life isn't what they want.
I think you are exactly right. It is away for many to escape their reality exactly as you described it. The big draw being, not only can they now escape but they can make it into anything they want to be and/or pretend to be someone they are not.
I think a large portion of wow players that do so on a level that is extreme. AKA playing more than average are probably depressed or trying to escape real life for a reason. Most probably need to be talking to someone about it, but instead spend there time focused in on something that keeps their mind occupied.
BANG ON dude... bang on!
this 1% of internet population deserves to be studied by aliens.
Blizzard gave you a sicknesss.. we should call it the digital cold =)
i hope anyone playing WOW realizes their suffering soon and makes
the right choice.
Best to all.
My brother showed my mom MMORPG's (i think EQ to start), an individual who previously never used a computer. She now for the past 4 years, has played literally everyday for 8 hours. Loggin nearly 1.32 years of MMORPG game play in that period. It's consumed her entire life. The moment she gets home from work she gets into her pj's and plays from 5pm till 1-3am. You can't even watch TV in the livingroom cause she talks into her mic all night and it drives you completely insane listening to her interact while going on raids or PvPing. I honestly believe that for a large percentage of people that MMORPG's are like heroin. Not only do they neglect their families, they neglect themselves by not eating right, or doing anything active. They literally will just immerse themselves in this virtual world irregardless of consequences. Even if their lives are falling apart or their health is going to shit, they still have to get their fix every night.
I think that they should enforce laws, like in china where your account only lets you play 3-4 hours a night max. Even though I have heard of people there opening 2 accounts just so that they can get their full fix.
I feel sorry for anyone that starts playing this game. I used to be an avid video game player but have kinda steered myself away from games like this just because I know what the result is. Just like I have tried alcohol or pot , but like another/.'er put it... "I am gonna stay away from crack or heroin" even though i heard it's damn amazing. =)
People that play this game for more than 2 hours a night are just gross and need help immediately. Take up yoga or meditation or anything. Anyone that does any single activity for 4-8 hours a day outside of work should be asking themselves, "what the hell am i thinking". WOW is a sickness, a plague in our digital society. I do security software development for a living and the only single activity I would consider concievably doing for 4-8 hours straight when i get off work, is writing some WOW worm using new exploit/security hole that would use their contacts list and corrupt their registry and give these people a night off. =) although it would be a futile attempt, cause you know they would spend the evening just reinstalling everything.
Honestly though, if you play this game, take a month off and see if you can go without it. If you can't then do yourself a favour delete all your contacts associated with this virtual world and remove the software from your computer (microwave the damn CD).
"Get a life, you only get one!". People in 3rd world countries would give anything to have the opportunities these people have. Instead you rot away in your basement playing shit like this just to make blizzard a profit hahaha.. That's the real joke, someone is making a profit off you rotting in your basement.
"DEALER (aka Blizzard): HEY MAN, FOR $11.50 a month.. i will give you a hit that will make you live in your basement for 8 hours a day and rot for the next 3 years staring at screen... you'll only have to move your eyes and click. You will loose touch with most of your real friend but I you will make some cool virtual ones to replace them. Oh, and I guarantee it will make your dopamine levels go through the roof just like cocaine. With the added feature of gaining weight, looking real damn tired and physically aging at twice the rate."
"POTENTIAL MMORPG VICTIM: Well when you put it like that I am not really sure about this..."
"DEALER: Look here's the CD, I will give you a free month"
"POTENTIAL MMORPG VICTIM: Well shit if it's a freebie why not?"
1 month later ---
"DEALER: So did you happen to try that WOW cd i gave to you?"
"MMORPG VICTIM: Try it!!! SHIT!!!, That's all i did this past month. I lost my real family, my job, a few friends and gained
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Look, if hitler convinced their entire nation it was okay to kill millions... I definitely think video games could have the impact this guy is preaching about *LOL* Along with it.. Pong, scrabble and monopoly should also be banned. I don't get politicians, the few people that have a chance to make an impact on their societal structure, instead focus on things that have virtually none what-so-ever, aside from Al Gore who never got elected. (Watch "An Inconvenient Truth").. If he was, we wouldn't even be in Iraq and the trillions spent on establishing democratic ties in the east (and killing thousands upon thousands) would have been spent on saving our sorry asses from global warming. Anyways, yes stop the terrible video games!!! they are definitely the most horrific thing going on in our society... Aldous huxley was right.. historians will look back and see that our social norms of present day society were the most deluded and insane..
How can you take a neural network and train it, then patent that?
That's like patenting training a dog to fetch a stick, it's completely rediculous.
You take software capable of generalizing a neural network algorithm by feeding it pictures and associating each picture with certain tags. It then creates a generalized algorithm model based on what you fed it initially. So that when you give new input it is capable of outputting tags most similar to what you initially trained it.
So yes this software can recognize boxes, shapes, other objects, maybe scenes etc and associate them with tags... but ask them how the algorithm works under the hood =) They have no idea... a neural network is like a black box after it has been trained. You feed it input and it gives you output based on it's initial training. The inner workings are chaotic spaghetti values set on each neuron weighting and can't be deciphered.
How can you patent software that is a black box inside?
"Yes hello patent office? I have this box that manufactures microprocessors. I feed it all the materials and it outputs a shiny new processor. I am not sure of the manufacturing process internally but the output works great. I would like to patent this manufacturing process.
"Okay your patent number is 247286-"BLACK BOX"-9
The whole point of a neural network is it generalizes what you train it and can future predict any input based on that.
It's like having the invention of the first mirror and everytime someone put something different infront of it, that person called up the art gallery because they had a new painting that they wanted in their name (because depending what was in front of it you get a different reflection).
If you have the alexa tool bar and you check your website a few times a day. Your rating will improve by 100,000's. =) My traffic hasn't changed for www.housefox.ca at all in the past year but it has gone from an alexa ranking of 200,000 to 580,000 in a period of 6 months because I stopped checking it daily own my computer with the alexa bar installed.
Check it out for yourself.
Seriously, I can't believe anyone would take this seriously. Changes can take place over just 3000 years but only subtle. Evolution for the human species at this point is so up in the air. And this sad attempt to predict it is laughable.
People that should live are living so we are polluting our gene pools in ways we don't know yet. diseases are treated and people with these disease that normally wouldn't are having children. People that can't have kids.. are because of certain expensive invitro procedures..
Look at how similar we are as specicies from asia, canada, europe, us. Why haven't we changed this drastically over the previous 10K years? I think this guy should change his day job to something like, library story teller for children in the mornings.
All i can say is this prediction is just stupid.. go back to the drawing board. Thanks for ammusing us and I would be embarrased if I were the one that came out with this information.
I refuse to use yahoo services. It's almost like early catholicism lol.. the only justification for such action is purely trying to control control control.. When you start losing something you grip even tighter to try and hang on. Seriously do they have board meetings and decide.. "okay today we are going to block youtube.com" muahahahahah our users will thanks us? It's purely in yahoo's interest not their users and any customer should avoid using a service when that service isn't strictly about the consumer.
So here's a question that really puts happiness of an activity to the test. If you were going to die 1 year from today. Would you spend every night playing WoW or actually get out and experience real life? I guarantee the answer isn't, "I would sit in my basement staring at a screen burning the midnight oil while I interact with my virtual world that I can make whatever I want happen". lmao
The only attraction to this type of game is for people who's lives haven't developed the way they want, now having the ability to create a virtual world that one can be proud of. The irony being these people are now dedicating even more time to not accomplishing anything the desire in the real world. It's perfect!!! You losers keep playing WoW, well us winners will keep doing what made us winners in the first place.
Some will say who am I to judge a person for playing this MMORPG for 4+ hours a night. But the real question is, how l deluded do you have to be to justify otherwise?
BLIZZARD has you losers by the balls.
Yeah I can't imagine my mom smoking pot instead? lmao.. She might actually feel good, socialize with real people, eat more, ponder life or philosophy, and get the munchies... Anyone that plays Wow to an extreme of +4 hours a day leads such a sedentary lifestyle that they resemble Mr. Burns on weight gainer. These people are at higher risks for cancer, diabetes and strongly associated with weight gain and obesity. Study
Anyone that plays MMORPG's for more than a few hours a week should be shot in the face. They obviously are social outcasts whos lives are shit and who have failed at real relationships.
>> End of story.
I think anyone escaping into a world that isn't interacting in the real world for 8 hours a day definitely suffers from depression, social anxiety or some other form of mental illness yes. They are escaping .. it's classical psychology. Unless your a monk and you are in some meditative state trying to find enlightenment I think 8 hours of any activity is grossly much.
I wasn't insinuating anything. I was outright saying, I think anyone doing this needs to be on a medication and/or speaking with a therapist to solve their underlying problems. It's not even borderline compulsion at that point.. it is classic compulsive behaviour.
All Wow players playing +4 hours a day should be put on an exchange program with a 3rd world country citizen. They obviously need a wake up call.
I moved out when i finished college in 2002. You can't change any individual no matter how hard you try. They have to want to change. Just a general rule... She literally had a computer built that cost 6K just a couple months ago so that she could enjoy the full experience of her game. =) I understand that it makes her happy, I just think that it needs to be in moderation.
Hahaha, dude you need to relax. You responded like I made some anti-semetic remark. All I am saying is anyone playing WOW for 4+ hours every single night might want to consider taking up a different hobby. I mean 4 hours a week at the gym means I go 4 nights a week and in a year I would be looking so great. But 4+ hours a night??? how can anyone even justify this kind of hobby?
I am fine with any kind of game play and I don't consider it wasteful just as you mentioned. However, when it becomes compulsive and you just have to get on there and get your daily fix I think a person needs to re-evaluate where MMORPG's stand in their lives.
BTW, about your remark in regards to poor writing. I am a software geek, not an english major.
It's easy to say I am simply thinking negatively and trying to make someone feel bad, who is feeling good. But I am not talking about all MMORPG players, I am talking about the ones that literally play every day for a long period of time. They neglect family, friends and even themselves. There is a big difference between doing something because you think it makes you temporarily happy and actually being happy.
:)
I agree that society has primed and groomed us to be productive little bees and defines success in terms of appearance and wealth. And I definitely don't agree with this sort of upbringing. I do however think that playing a video game for 8 hours a night to be a problem; plain and simple.
No matter how you wanna justify it, staring and clicking for 8 hours a day as a hobby is unhealthy and wrong
Actually i said any single activity for 4-8 hours. And I didn't mean just once, but literally thousands are spending each and every day 4-8 hours escaping into virtual world because life isn't what they want.
I think you are exactly right. It is away for many to escape their reality exactly as you described it. The big draw being, not only can they now escape but they can make it into anything they want to be and/or pretend to be someone they are not. I think a large portion of wow players that do so on a level that is extreme. AKA playing more than average are probably depressed or trying to escape real life for a reason. Most probably need to be talking to someone about it, but instead spend there time focused in on something that keeps their mind occupied. BANG ON dude... bang on!
this 1% of internet population deserves to be studied by aliens. Blizzard gave you a sicknesss.. we should call it the digital cold =) i hope anyone playing WOW realizes their suffering soon and makes the right choice. Best to all.
I think that they should enforce laws, like in china where your account only lets you play 3-4 hours a night max. Even though I have heard of people there opening 2 accounts just so that they can get their full fix.
I feel sorry for anyone that starts playing this game. I used to be an avid video game player but have kinda steered myself away from games like this just because I know what the result is. Just like I have tried alcohol or pot , but like another
People that play this game for more than 2 hours a night are just gross and need help immediately. Take up yoga or meditation or anything. Anyone that does any single activity for 4-8 hours a day outside of work should be asking themselves, "what the hell am i thinking". WOW is a sickness, a plague in our digital society. I do security software development for a living and the only single activity I would consider concievably doing for 4-8 hours straight when i get off work, is writing some WOW worm using new exploit/security hole that would use their contacts list and corrupt their registry and give these people a night off. =) although it would be a futile attempt, cause you know they would spend the evening just reinstalling everything.
Honestly though, if you play this game, take a month off and see if you can go without it. If you can't then do yourself a favour delete all your contacts associated with this virtual world and remove the software from your computer (microwave the damn CD).
"Get a life, you only get one!". People in 3rd world countries would give anything to have the opportunities these people have. Instead you rot away in your basement playing shit like this just to make blizzard a profit hahaha.. That's the real joke, someone is making a profit off you rotting in your basement.