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Yahoo Messenger Blocking youtube.com URLs?

wesleyye writes, "This morning I attempted to copy and paste a youtube.com URL to two of my friends via Yahoo IM. But they kept complaining they did not see anything. Actually they saw all the text message lines except the line with the youtube URL. Is YIM blocking the competitor out?" We verified in this office that a fully formed youtube.com URL could not be passed on YIM; changing the URL to read youtubex.com caused it to go through. Any other URL we tried worked. Update 10/10/2006 20:58 GMT by SM: Additional testing shows that there is something else going on for well formatted URLs. Even search results from search.yahoo.com had trouble when included with other text on the same line. Still awaiting comment from Yahoo!.

231 comments

  1. They seem to have fixed it by Great_Jehovah · · Score: 1

    either that or slashdot is seriously FOS

    1. Re:They seem to have fixed it by Tackhead · · Score: 2, Funny
      Great_Jehovah (3984) writes:

      > either that or slashdot is seriously FOS

      Welcome to Slashdot! So, how much did you pay on eBay for that four-digit ID? :)

    2. Re:They seem to have fixed it by hank · · Score: 3, Funny

      I then wonder what my 3 digit id would fetch. ;)

    3. Re:They seem to have fixed it by rk · · Score: 1

      Wait... people actually think a 4-digit ID has MONETARY value?

      Uh, how much?

    4. Re:They seem to have fixed it by SefTarbell · · Score: 1

      I still have this happen both at home and at work, but it's not ALL the time. Seems to be the first message that gets sent to me disappears, especially if it is ONLY a URL.

    5. Re:They seem to have fixed it by LocalH · · Score: 1

      I wonder what a low 5-digit one would go for.

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    6. Re:They seem to have fixed it by psxman · · Score: 1

      Pfft, my six digits trump all of you.

    7. Re:They seem to have fixed it by afz902k · · Score: 1

      Indeed, I have tested sending and receiving Youtube and Google video URL's, as well as passwords on Yahoo Messenger with voice 8.0.0.711 and Gaim 2.0.0beta3.1. All the links and passwords went through correctly (That is, no filtering).

    8. Re:They seem to have fixed it by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 2, Informative

      I remember the grand old days of no user IDs on Slashdot (yes kids, no joke!). That was fun, being able to impersonate whoever you wanted... Flame wars would erupt between Bill Gates and Linus Torvalds. It eventually got out of hand, and then everyone became a number...

      Slashdot recently hit user ID 1 million right? Wow.

    9. Re:They seem to have fixed it by rwgeorge · · Score: 1

      go back to digg where you belong - or learn to say something useful here

    10. Re:They seem to have fixed it by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      I don't think your memory is correct; CmdrTaco has always been UID 1. However, comment IDs used to be relative to the article, rather than global; this was changed because of all the "first post" comments.

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    11. Re:They seem to have fixed it by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 1

      But there was a time when you had to enter your name and/or email address into the form, because there were no assigned user IDs... Perhaps the WayBack Machine would know...

    12. Re:They seem to have fixed it by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      Wait... people actually think a 4-digit ID has MONETARY value?
      Anything has a monetary value if someone is twat enough to pay for it. Look at the cockwarblers buying shoes on Second Life.
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    13. Re:They seem to have fixed it by Heisman · · Score: 1

      seven, seven-five, seven-five, seven-five, seven-an-a-quarter, seven-an-a-quarter, seven-an-a-quarter, c'mon folks, there's gotta be another slashdot n00b in the crowd today, going once, going twice, sold to the gentleman in the glasses with teh pocket protector.

    14. Re:They seem to have fixed it by henri · · Score: 1

      i knew i shouldn't have waited till i got home to register...

    15. Re:They seem to have fixed it by Gothmog+of+A · · Score: 1

      Not much. I mean there must be thousands of 3 digit ids... oh wait.

    16. Re:They seem to have fixed it by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      Oh! Before they had registered users at all? That's possible.

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  2. Wow, Yahoo... by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

    Ever heard of subtlety?

  3. That's great for Google! by KingSkippus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Before everyone gets to feeling sorry for Google for this grave injustice against them, you should realize that Yahoo is well within their rights to block anything they want to from going through their IM service, and once people figure out that it's broken as a result, they'll start using an alternative.

    ...like, say, Google talk, maybe?

    1. Re:That's great for Google! by spectral · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yahoo's been doing this for a while, with videos.google.com as well. My friend attempted to submit this MONTHS ago and it was rejected.

    2. Re:That's great for Google! by IANAAC · · Score: 5, Funny
      My friend attempted to submit this MONTHS ago and it was rejected.

      Have your friend start a blog, then post the "article" to slashdot anonymously. Seems to regularly work.

    3. Re:That's great for Google! by A+Wise+Guy · · Score: 1

      Idiot! Nobody should censor anything. It is your responsibility to moderate yourself. You just admited it's okay for anybody to take your "sucker" away to protect you.

    4. Re:That's great for Google! by not-enough-info · · Score: 1, Funny
      Yahoo's been doing this for a while, with videos.google.com as well. My friend attempted to submit this MONTHS ago and it was rejected.

      Sorry, must've been filtered out.
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    5. Re:That's great for Google! by KingSkippus · · Score: 1
      Idiot!

      I can tell this is starting off well...

      Nobody should censor anything.

      Even if I agreed with you, I didn't say that Yahoo should censor anything. There's a HUGE difference between being well within their rights to and should.

      It is your responsibility to moderate yourself.

      I would, but 1) I don't have any mod points, and 2) even if I did, you can't mod your own comments. I'm glad to see that someone else took the initiative to ping it with a +1 Insightful, though. ;-)

      You just admited it's okay for anybody to take your "sucker" away to protect you.

      It's not my sucker, it's theirs. (Duh.) They're only letting me use their sucker, and since it's their sucker, they can take it away any ol' time they want to. But you're missing my point: If that sucker is too sour, I am well within my rights to not use it and to lick on Google's sucker instead. Fortunately, they're not the only ones with the power to decide what I do and do not lick.

      Pretty neat how that competition thing works, isn't it?

    6. Re:That's great for Google! by catbutt · · Score: 1

      "within their rights" does not mean "not uncool". And it is within my rights to complain, loudly, about things that are simply uncool.

      BTW, I don't believe for a moment Yahoo did this on purpose to hurt the competition. They are smart enough to know that that would backfire 100 times worse than any competitive advantage they get.

    7. Re:That's great for Google! by A+Wise+Guy · · Score: 1

      Actually, I re-read it and got the point. Sorry for the offense but censorship sucks ass... and i managed to get the whole picture 8)

    8. Re:That's great for Google! by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1
      I am well within my rights to not use it and to lick on Google's sucker instead.

      Are you a Slashdot editor? This approach would do a lot to explain why everything related to Google gets posted here, down to how many sheets Eric and Sergey use to wipe...

    9. Re:That's great for Google! by lynx_user_abroad · · Score: 1
      ...Yahoo is well within their rights to block anything they want to from going through their IM service...

      True. But then again, so is Google.

      In response to this, I invite people to visit my Sourceforge RaidIM project, which sends every message through multiple IM systems, and does error correction in messages based on the combination of the resulting messages.

      Now in beta...

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    10. Re:That's great for Google! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Before everyone gets to feeling sorry for Google for this grave injustice against them, you should realize that Yahoo is well within their rights to block anything they want to from going through their IM service ....

      They have a lot to lose if they selectively filter content, unless they want the government crawling up their butts over what is "appropriate" (God, what a hateful word -- it means anything any jerkoff ultra right or left wing crazy wants it to mean.) content.

    11. Re:That's great for Google! by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      I just tested youtube URLs on official Yahoo messenger and there is no such thing happening.

      Perhaps this complete story submitted and accepted is great for Google?

      Google is not evil so such things can never happen yes? ;)

    12. Re:That's great for Google! by IWTB · · Score: 1

      They have the right to block, but they also have the obligation to show the users that they blocked the URL/message.

    13. Re:That's great for Google! by MrLint · · Score: 1

      Well actually they dont have the right to block *anything* they want. Assuming this is in fact going on, it can be legitimately be argued as a restraint of trade issue and anti-competitive, as Google is a primary competitor of Yahoo.

  4. here's what happened by porkThreeWays · · Score: 5, Funny

    (yahoo guy in the back browsing slashdot at work)

    Shit! *click* Whew.

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    1. Re:here's what happened by zenithcoolest · · Score: 1

      lol...its actually happening

  5. Politics? by xcrunner · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does this story really belong in Politics? I think it more has to do with competition then politics.

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    1. Re:Politics? by timster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think it's partially intended as a hint about what a future without network neutrality might be like.

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    2. Re:Politics? by monkeydo · · Score: 1

      Free (as in freedom)? If you don't like the service Yahoo! provides, use their competitor.

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    3. Re:Politics? by ScuttleMonkey · · Score: 1

      kdawson mistakenly put it in politics and had to leave the office. I appreciate you pointing this out though. I have correctly placed it in YRO which is where most of this discussion is headed anyway.

    4. Re:Politics? by xcrunner · · Score: 1

      Great! I wasn't trying to be a pain or anything just wondering :)

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    5. Re:Politics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yahoo blocking YouTube URLS on their IM service has nothing to do with Net Neutrality. Even if Net Neutrality was passed it wouldn't preven them from doing this.

    6. Re:Politics? by cptgrudge · · Score: 1

      I think it's partially intended as a hint about what a future without network neutrality might be like.
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      Your sig is very apt.

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    7. Re:Politics? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Funny
      kdawson mistakenly put it in politics and had to leave the office.

      Geez. Kind of harsh don't you think? I mean, the guy has only been here a month or two. No need to fire him over a simple mistake!

      (I kid! I kid!)
    8. Re:Politics? by DittoBox · · Score: 1

      I call BS. Net Neutrality is about packet privatization at the ISP or line carrier level. That has exactly nothing to do with a *free* IM service provider scanning the content that passes through *their* servers and looking for things. You agreed to their TOS, which although IANAL probably allows this sort of thing.

      Net Neutrality is about Telcos (ISPs and Line Carriers) slowing down or stopping time-sensitive packets (VOIP, music, IPTV etc.) going to or from a competitor that happens to use their lines or because you use their ISP service. How you managed to draw a logical connection between that and Yahoo! (who's inbound packets were already received from the Telco!) denying services to you I don't know. Maybe you meant that this is what telcos might try to do, but that's not what network neutrality is about. Net neutrality is about packet prioritization, not about packet reconstruction, analysis and modification before it reaches it's intended recipient. Not even Telcos are that retarded.

      I hate the telco SOBs as much as anyone here, but this is tripe.

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    9. Re:Politics? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1
      I call BS. Net Neutrality is about packet privatization at the ISP or line carrier level.

      True, in the same way that the GPL is about always distributing source when you distribute a binary. But the spirit of the GPL runs deeper, and so does the spirit of net neutrality.

      Net Neutrality is about Telcos (ISPs and Line Carriers) slowing down or stopping time-sensitive packets (VOIP, music, IPTV etc.) going to or from a competitor that happens to use their lines or because you use their ISP service.

      No, that is what the world would be like without net neutrality. The principle of net neutrality is that the network itself should be neutral. The question is whether IM, at this point, is a network of sorts or a service. But still, Google is a service. Suppose Google silently dropped any search results from Yahoo.com?

      Packet prioritization is simply one aspect of net neutrality. In its current definition, you're right, net neutrality pretty much only applies to telcos -- but it is not limited to prioritization. I call it a violation of net neutrality when a high school sends you through the N2H2 filter, where it not only attempts to block pornography, it adds an N2H2 banner to the bottom of each page.

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  6. Tin foil time by ahknight · · Score: 1

    Time for the foil hats, I guess.

    I know at work there were days that every URL except for fark.com would work and then it would come back. Some monkey having fun is all.

    And .. why aren't you using Jabber? I mean, really...

    1. Re:Tin foil time by SixArmedJesus · · Score: 1

      Exactly. I've had many times where a URL will not go through the Yahoo network, consistantly, even though there was no Yahoo client on either end (Trillian on one, Gaim on the other). It's not necessarily a conspiracy.

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  7. Block happening server side? by Necroman · · Score: 1

    I'm guessing this block is happening in the YIM servers and not in the client (would be harder with all the 3rd party clients out there). So, the only option is to not use them? If they are going to filter your chat because of their Marketting departments idea of business, don't use them. There are many alternatives out there (GTalk, AIM, MSN...), why use someone that would even consider filtering their users messages?

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    1. Re:Block happening server side? by RagingFuryBlack · · Score: 1

      Of course, the chances are that they're reading the messages too, cringeing that everyone still uses that gat damn youtube.

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    2. Re:Block happening server side? by Ironsides · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing this block is happening in the YIM servers and not in the client (would be harder with all the 3rd party clients out there).

      It would also be harder as this would probably require a client update. As most people don't always run the most recent version...

      More interesting is, if this is being run on the server side, then they are scanning every single message that goes through their servers. I wonder what else they are scanning for?

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    3. Re:Block happening server side? by denbesten · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > More interesting is, if this is being run on the server side, then they are
      > scanning every single message that goes through their servers.
      > I wonder what else they are scanning for?

      Unfortunately, we know that they are not scanning for viruses, spyware or phishing.

    4. Re:Block happening server side? by milimetric · · Score: 1

      "There are many alternatives out there (GTalk, AIM, MSN...)"

      woa, woa... don't get crazy now. AIM may not block your URL but as soon as you install it ALL your base are belong to them.

  8. subscription benefits by qw0ntum · · Score: 2, Funny

    News from the future: "Yahoo! Messenger blocks links from slashdot.org"

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  9. Loss of communication can mean only one thing... by suv4x4 · · Score: 1

    ... but I hate movie quotes, bring your own conclusions.

  10. hype fud.. by NovaSupreme · · Score: 1

    may be yahoo is not trying to take any blames due to possible copyright violations on youtube. or may be a little bug or just bad observation. beats me how does it qualify to be here. you are not thinking yahoo rolled out an invisible update to yahoo messange today morning once google bought youtube. peace.

    1. Re:hype fud.. by rainwater · · Score: 1

      you are not thinking yahoo rolled out an invisible update to yahoo messange today morning once google bought youtube.

      Since all they would have to do is make a change in the server, a client update is not required at all.

    2. Re:hype fud.. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      Legal Issues: No, as a "common carrier" they would normally be immune from action regarding the content they send through their servers... except: Federal court has decided that when a carrier attempts to control the content it provides, it then (necessarily) becomes LIABLE for that content. So by controlling (censoring) content, they then become liable for ALL content they send through their servers. Legally and practically, that is the only way common carriers can operate. Either they pass on everything without prejudice (like a telephone company), and they are a common carrier, OR they control the content (ala moderated chat room or Yahoo censoring some URLS), in which case they become a content provider. Again: legally and practically, they cannot have it both ways. Summary: they messed up.

    3. Re:hype fud.. by NovaSupreme · · Score: 1
      yeps! when i was returning from movie late last night, i saw lights were on for most of the yahoo building near US 101 highway. Poor guys must be working on updating the server.

      cynical /.

    4. Re:hype fud.. by monkeydo · · Score: 1

      Please provide a link to the FCC decision that says Yahoo!, or any instant message service is a common carrier.

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    5. Re:hype fud.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      may be yahoo is not trying to take any blames due to possible copyright violations on youtube.

      Only a paranoid fucker without the slightest clue about law would say something like that.

      Are you waiting for the jackbooted cops to smash your door down because you used the word "youtube' in your posting? Can't be too careful, you know.

    6. Re:hype fud.. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      I did not say that instant messengers are common carriers, and I did not mention the FCC at all. The court decision I mentioned was about whether an information "carrier" can defend itself in court as being a "common carrier", if it controls the content that it serves up.

      Specifically, the decision stated that if you attempt to control the content of the information you are carrying, then you are a content provider and therefore NOT a common carrier.

      I do not recall the name of this particlar suit at the moment but you can find it yourself easily enough. It was a defamation suit against AOL (and at least one other party) by one of their chatroom users. The court stated that if AOL censors (or "moderates") their chatrooms, they are controlling the content and so must assume liability for that content. If they did not control or censor the chatroom content, then they could claim immunity from liability on the basis that they were acting as a common carrier... but that was not the case. In essence, AOL wanted it both ways but the judge gave them a resounding NO.

      Note that this was about claiming common carrier status as a matter of practical fact, not whether they were certified as a common carrier by the FCC.

    7. Re:hype fud.. by monkeydo · · Score: 1

      You're still wrong. If simply failing to control the content magically granted Yahoo! a "common carrier" defense, then there would be no need for a federal statute. Whether you are "acting" as a common carrier or not, if your aren't a common carrier, you don't get common carrier protections. That's why ISP's who have fought against being considered common carriers, also fought for the protections afforded by the DMCA.

      Unless I'm wrong, in which case I expect that you will post some authority which stands for the proposition that an ISP or service provider can escape liability simply by claiming that they are a common carrier as a matter of practical fact.

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    8. Re:hype fud.. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      The fact that I did not go out there and find it for you myself is not evidence that it does not exist. You seem to think that I have an obligation to try to convince you, but that is not the case. You can believe it or not, but you can also look it up yourself. The case is out there, and I am not the judge who wrote the decision. I have supplied more than enough information for you to find it. I do not intend to do your homework for you.

  11. Blocked by the client software by Mwongozi · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just tested this with a friend - the URLs get through fine when sent with Adium. So they're being blocked by the client software - not the network itself.

    1. Re:Blocked by the client software by CustomDesigned · · Score: 1

      Maybe due to malware, rather than Yahoo?

  12. You wonder by Daishiman · · Score: 1

    You should wonder the level of desperation this measure reeks of.

  13. You'd be surprised.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...just how close you might be to the truth.

    posting A/C, natch.

    1. Re:You'd be surprised.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Billy this is your boss, get back to work!

    2. Re:You'd be surprised.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Billy this is your boss, get back to work!

      I'm not Billy. I'm Cameron. Yahoo Research.

  14. Can't imagine they'd want to. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Very strange.

    I just did some Googling and there doesn't seem to be anyone else talking about it, at least that I could find -- if Yahoo really was engaging in this, you'd think it would have created more of a hue and cry.

    I'm starting to suspect hoax, unless someone besides the article submitter can come up with evidence that it happened.

    I can't imagine that Yahoo would want to demonstrate that it has the capability of selectively filtering messages based on content. That just opens the door to lots of problematic demands -- e.g., why don't they block links to warez sites, or porn, or gambling, or (in other countries) various political websites. If you have that sort of capability, even if you don't want to use it for evil purposes, people are going to try and make you use it. So it's better just to never develop the capability in the first place, and if it is technically possible, never reveal that it can be done on demand, so that you can maintain your plausible deniability.

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    1. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by setecastronomy · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't know how I could "prove" it, but I can verify that this has indeed been happening for at least 4+ months*. Any message with youtube.com in it was silently discarded, but outube.com, utube.com, etc. all went through fine. I suppose I could post chat logs from my two machines, but obviously I could have altered them to suit my own purposes...

      I just tested it now, and youtube URLs no longer appear to be filtered. However, they were as recently as two weeks ago.

      * In fact, I submitted this when I first noticed it, but my story was rejected. C'est la vie.

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    2. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by joe_bruin · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yahoo filters out certain messages, and it has nothing to do with YouTube. Near as I can figure, the algorithm is like this:

      If the first message you send to someone in a period of time contains only a URL (doesn't matter where it links to), it will be filtered out. I'm guessing this is to reduce spam.

      Way to overreact, Slashdot.

    3. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by sirshannon · · Score: 1

      I have noticed something similar for months (at least 6 months) but it didn't quite work that way. It seems like random URL messages were dropped by Yahoo, not just the first message. I don't seem to be having the problem now, though, not for YouTube or any URLs.

    4. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1
      I don't know how I could "prove" it, but I can verify that this has indeed been happening for at least 4+ months

      If what you say is true, than it can't have much to do with Google, eh? Maybe Yahoo want to work out some financial arrangement with YouTube, and YouTube doesn't want to play? I guess that's Yahoo's right. YouTube has "Jumped The Shark" anyway... ;)

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    5. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by Deanalator · · Score: 1

      From what I can tell, it seems like they are just blocking links which contain redirects. Links to movies do not work, but links to images do. All the redirect links I could think of for other sites seemed to work though, so it might have something to do with the depth of the redirect, or the media type of the final content.

    6. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This happened to me, but it was a photobucket url. I was able to see what the other person was sending, because she was in the cube next to me. We tried many times, and the entire IM just didn't make it to me.

      Yahoo is so done... when was their last innovation? Not this century. They're just another big corporate monolith now, and they will just suck more and more as time goes on.

      A company that big just can't be nimble enough to respond to a rapidly changing market. Myspace and youtube snuck up on them, and ate their lunch for them. Look for that to keep happening.

    7. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by zizzo · · Score: 1

      It's probably not a hoax but it's also not a conspiracy. YIM has had trouble sending messages that are only URLs for quite a while. Quite a few people have already commented to that effect and I just want to throw in a "Me too!"

      Yahoo: It's here, it's broken, get used to it.

    8. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by tacokill · · Score: 1

      You know, I just about took your comment at face value until I started thinking about it. Is spam over IM, really, a big deal? I ask because I genuinely don't know.

      I use all of the major IM clients (Yahoo, MSN, AOL, Trillian) and to date, I have never received spam over IM. Not one. Ever. I do have my accounts setup so I can accept/deny friends but other than that, I have not done anything outside of the default setup.

      I realize that my anecdote does not speak to the general trend so I have to ask. Please, someone enlighten me as to the SCALE of this problem.

      Because the scale of the problem determines if I am comfortable allowing Yahoo to remove links at their whim. In principle alone, I am very much against this practice.

    9. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by Firehed · · Score: 5, Funny

      You could always post a screenshot of the logs, since that seems to be admissable in court nowadays.

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    10. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use Trillian as well; and only one of my accounts recieves spam. It is the yahoo account; and I suspect it is because only that one is actually in the members directory and there's a couple other spam style methods which could retrieve that one. It's a very old account, as are all of my IM accounts, and actually I didn't recieve any junk spam until I removed some of the privacy protections on that account.

      If I may pose a hypothesis; perhaps you are a geek like me and managed to turn off all the options like "list me in the member directory" rather quickly after you signed up, and dodged the bullet?

      Also if you're curious, while not truely spam -- I get 2 or 3 solicitations a day from men who are blind messaging any female they see online. I can't imagine this method ever yields success for them with any real women; I have a personal ad in a couple of places and if you're interested in a relationship with me that's the only method I accept for that kind of contact. "Hi 22/m/XX" tells me immediately that you're not the kind of person I would want. All of my female friends are the same.

      AC cause I don't want the slashdot hounds bombing my personal ad tomorrow.

    11. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by Shawn+is+an+Asshole · · Score: 1

      I use Gaim and occasionally over Yahoo I get spambot's contacting me. They all put out the same lines, just with different names. They end up with a link to a webcam site.

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    12. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 1

      MSN Messenger has exactly the same problem. It seems to be endemic to the big services, I don't know why. The one I noticed it with was Facebook URLs - attempting to send these would result in the message being "unable to be delivered". I don't know if this is some kind of antispam system gone crazy or not, but Microsoft don't compete with Facebook so I guess it must be. Annoying as hell for sure.

    13. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but the author says if the url is changed to youtubex.com it works.

    14. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by iwsnet · · Score: 0

      Maybe they are afraid people are sending porn links in URLs so they are blocking them.

    15. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by wdr1 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Editor 1: I'm having basic tech support problems!!!
      Editor 2: Quick, post it to the home page!

      -Bill

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    16. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by MurphyZero · · Score: 1

      I use Trillian and I get those spambots on Yahoo too. There's a couple of different lines, but all very similar. Also I use it to send links to my wife all the time (but on AIM). best way to send nice links.

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    17. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by technos · · Score: 1

      can't imagine that Yahoo would want to demonstrate that it has the capability of selectively filtering messages based on content.

      True. But that's probably not what's happening here.

      It was probably an overzealous formatting filter. Y'know, feed the thing ':)', get a smiley graphic, feed the thing &amp132/0000FF and get blue text, feed it some HTML and get something resembling the HTML. That stuff needs to be sanity checked, and dumped if it makes no sense.

      They also probably don't want people embedding things like media streams, Flash objects, etc in their messages. Y'know, things that could potentially serve as a infection vector. If you used a standard HTML rendering widget as your base, you're screwed the instant some jerk coupling a image metadata exploit with IM by wrapping it in a couple tables and an embed.

      Somewhere along the line one of their formatting filters decided that some YouTube URLs looked funny enough to get dumped. There are probably other sites with the same silent drop problem.

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    18. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by mac.man25 · · Score: 1

      I'm starting to suspect hoax, unless someone besides the article submitter can come up with evidence that it happened.

      I can tell you that I expereienced that problem when trying to send URLs to my friend. I don't know why but all URLs seemed to work badly, when using youTube however it seemed to never work.

      I don't think it was just YouTube that wasn't working, but that's really a common link to send nowadays.

    19. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by poliopteragriseoapte · · Score: 1

      This filtering is truly an incredibly bad idea, destroying much of the value of the chat service. The advantage of chat - so I thought - over email was that you had confirmation that the other person got the information. Now it turns out that the information might silently disappear, and that the two people at the two ends of the conversation might have an inconsistent view of facts.

      I am glad I stick to Google chat (out of laziness, since I have Gmail open anyway).

    20. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by kisielk · · Score: 1

      No, this happens to me periodically with any old messages. I can then usually send it again and it gets through. I think it has more to do with Microsoft's network sucking than any actual filtering going on.

    21. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by Kamots · · Score: 1

      Back in 2000 or so I got a decent amount of ICQ spam. Haven't gotten any in a long long time though... and I've kept the same number. Don't recieve any on my AIM or MSN accounts either... although I didn't have those until recently.

      If it matters, I'm a trillian user.

      I don't think any of my online friends get much if any IM spam either. The problem seems to have fixed itself over the years.

    22. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by Unknown_monkey · · Score: 1

      Yes, you're right as far as my experience. My roommate won't get my links unless I text her a msg first. Then I can send links. Else they just get "filtered"

    23. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by pavankp · · Score: 1

      I also faced the same problem, i was not able to send links to some blogs, youtube etc...i ended up fighting with my friend thinking he was fooling with me :). But not sure why would Yahoo want to do something like this(to prevent spam? don give me silly reasons pls)? Someone in my friend list has the permission to send anything to me.Hope Yahoo is aware of this!!!

    24. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by s13g3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Too many secrets! (good movie!)

      But seriously, is this a surprise? IIRC, wasn't Yahoo! quite complicit in filtering for The Great Firewall of China? I believe much more is being filtered, as I have had numerous messages to friends through YIM! simply disappear... I know, because the message not going thru caused me to either call, IRC, or yell across the apartment at the persons I was trying to message, and in all those cases, a URL was involved; thinking back on it, I wonder: has anyone else had a problem sending Photobucket links?

      Also, in response to a previous poster who said something about how the technology to filter should never be developed or made known that it can be done on demand: You fail - The academic community frowns on your conclusion. The ability to do these things is often devloped concurrently with the rest of the software/hardware/etc., based on lessons learned from BBS'es and IRC and the first ISP's. The ability to filter and censor a network is critical to its operation in many ways and for many reasons (at least 65535 reasons), to prevent things like exploits and spam, or deal with hackers, etc. While I believe Internet Neutrality is important (I've writeen several papers on it recently), some argue that in many ways the Internet has never actually been truly neutral, some authors referring to a policy of "don't filter until/unless you have to" - implied is the ability to do so on demand when you absolutely have to. From a network engineering standpoint, it's not wise too have too many such rules running, lest you impact performance, so it isn't a good idea to allow Joe Schmoe in tech support or John Blow in the NOC to have the ability to implment these kinds of things just from a technical standpoint, other considerations (such as legal) aside. But seriously, don't fool yourself, pretty much any and every hosted service you use possesses the ability to eavesdrop on, filter, and/or censor you.

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    25. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by Wiseleo · · Score: 1

      In particular on Yahoo, it is not just bad, it is stifling to the point of being a full-scale DoS attack.

      You may not get spam on your IM account, but don't you dare try to go into some chat rooms. I like to give advice to people on launching and expanding businesses, and I have to ignore, immediately on entry, at least and I kid you not, 20 userIDs that belong to bots.

      If I had time, I'd track down the spammers and get their accounts terminated with their sponsors. Unfortunately, I don't have that time right now as we are in the middle of a release.

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    26. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

      If only the first URL in the conversation is blocked, that'd explain it. The way to reliably test this would be to check a whole bunch of URLs, some (as opposed to just the first) of which are Youtube addresses. But it's possible the test was already conducted like that.

      Also, since it appears to have stopped: I don't advocate tinfoil hats normally, but did Yahoo stealth-remove it once people caught on? It sounds unlikely, but still.

    27. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by ArtStone · · Score: 1

      Not a screenshot of the log - a digitized scan of a faxed copy of a printed log.

      Anyone who has ever used an IM program and has found the chat logs doesn't wonder why the FBI wasn't interested in chasing the "crime" of two consenting adults discussing sex in private in an IM.

      Be careful what you ask for.

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    28. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by somersault · · Score: 1

      I once sent a message on MSN, then sent it repeatedly to the person asking the same question, or a similar one, and none of those messages actually got through (while everything else I said did). I can't remember what the sentence even was, but I think MSN may filter some messages completely too, without warning either user. It was getting quite ridiculous when I was starting to get agitated at this person, and they had no idea why (it was my gf, no she wasn't kidding about the question not getting through, we started using Skype instead after that incident).

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    29. Re:Can't imagine they'd want to. by fbjon · · Score: 1

      No, a digitized scan of a printed and copied digital photo of a developed film print on a wooden table.

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  15. Blocking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It would be more Yahoo's style if they just changed the URL to something else...

    (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medireview for the history)

    1. Re:Blocking? by Kaenneth · · Score: 1

      Pr, in ptherwords, Pwnd.

  16. They've done this before by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Informative

    Since they've done this before, and now done it again, I assume they'll keep doing it until discovered with it in the act. In which case they'll call it a temporary glitch or something. They're skilled in this work internationally too, and are building quite a reputation with all this.

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    1. Re:They've done this before by dedazo · · Score: 1
      Since they've done this before

      That's disingenuous at best. You and everyone else in the world knows damn well why they blocked "allah". When some yahoo (no pun intended) creates a screen name called "jesuslikesgoats86" the worst that will happen is that some people will be amused and some annoyed. When someone creates a "allahlikesgoats33" account the worst that can happen is some sucktard will send a bomb letter to a Yahoo executive.

      This whole PC thing is stupid - I don't remember seeing riots and deaths lately in the West as a result of a newspaper publishing some lame cartoons. We all know what happens, where, why and who is responsible. Allow enough people to create lamer Yahoo screen names with the word "allah" in them and you might very well be looking at actual violence somehwere.

      So I don't blame them from doing that at all. I think it's insane and ridiculous, but I simply cannot fault them.

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    2. Re:They've done this before by ringbarer · · Score: 0

      And once again the world is held to ransom by animals.

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    3. Re:They've done this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jihad! 10,000 camels for the head of dedazo.

    4. Re:They've done this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...so you're telling me Allah doesn't like goats?

      (haha, the security word is "godsend")

    5. Re:They've done this before by Fujisawa+Sensei · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      The fscking muslims need to either get thicker skinned or go back to the bronze age stay there.

      We need to let the so called moderates muslims know that if they don't stand up to the radicals, they will be treated as suporting them.

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    6. Re:They've done this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The fscking muslims need to either get thicker skinned or go back to the bronze age stay there.

      They're certainly giving the US a good kicking in Iraq and Afghanistan though, aren't they! It's pretty funny watching the worlds most expensive army powerless to prevent a bunch of untrained people defeat them. "Mission accomplished", huh George? Any day now, right? That is, any day now you'll pull a Vietnam and retreat from a force you know you cannot beat.

    7. Re:They've done this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      So I don't blame them from doing that at all. I think it's insane and ridiculous, but I simply cannot fault them.

      Fuck you, lunatic son of a bitch. Save your spleen for the maniacal Mohammedans who think they're justified in turning the world into a bonfire every time they're slighted. The rest of the Allahites had better start loudly disassociating themselves from their "by fire and sword" brethren instead of just piously repeating their current mantra of, "Islam is a religion of peace and we hobble our women and keep them in burlap bags as a way of showing them in what high esteem we hold them." What's next -- lily-foot middle eastern women?

    8. Re:They've done this before by Fnkmaster · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Yeah, ummm, I think you might want to check on your numbers there again, bub. How many dead Muslims and how many dead Americans? That's what I thought. Now shut your fucking trap before you make an ass out of yourself again.

      If you can please explain what exactly you think it means to "win" an insurgency in an occupied country, I'd be glad to hear it. Because you can't. It's impossible. The Nazis won a war against the French army in less than a week, but there was still an insurgency there throughout World War II. But do we say that the French "beat" the Germans in World War II? No.

      The only way to win is not to fight. That's why we should get the fuck out of Iraq and support the Iraqis ability to protect and police their own country. If the Iranians invade, then we can send our army back in, otherwise the military shouldn't be there except to train and advise.

    9. Re:They've done this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > How many dead Muslims and how many dead Americans?

      Tens of thousands of dead civilians. Couple of thousand dead Americans. Not sure how many dead insurgents.

    10. Re:They've done this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he likes pigs.

    11. Re:They've done this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope the Department of Homeland Security finds you and sends you to Gitmo.

  17. Video.google by zenithcoolest · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Google video URLs are also blocked I guess. Isnt this antitrust?

    1. Re:Video.google by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Google video URLs are also blocked I guess. Isnt this antitrust?

      Umm, what are you proposing Yahoo has a monopoly on?

    2. Re:Video.google by zenithcoolest · · Score: 1

      Not suggesting anything but strange coincidence after Youtube was bought by Google yesterday

    3. Re:Video.google by truthsearch · · Score: 1

      Maybe he means it goes against the trust people have in Yahoo's service. Or he thought we're talking about MSN.

    4. Re:Video.google by Blob+Pet · · Score: 1

      Yahoo is hardly a monopoly.

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    5. Re:Video.google by SolarCanine · · Score: 1

      Google video URLs are also blocked I guess. Isnt this antitrust?

      The Coke machine at my office won't sell me a Pepsi, either.

      The anti-competitive bastards!

    6. Re:Video.google by SeaFox · · Score: 1
      The Coke machine at my office won't sell me a Pepsi, either.

      Mine will. There is some Mountian Dew Code Red in the Coke machine here, which I'm sure is a violation of the vending company's licensing agreements with BOTH Coca-Cola and PepsiCo.

    7. Re:Video.google by TubeSteak · · Score: 1
      Google video URLs are also blocked I guess. Isnt this antitrust?

      Umm, what are you proposing Yahoo has a monopoly on?
      Antitrust != monopoly

      Antitrust laws cover a variety of anti-competitive business practices. This includes, but is not limited to, monopolistic practices.
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    8. Re:Video.google by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      a variety of anti-competitive business practices
      A far as I know, there's no anti-anti-competition law saying that you have to allow your competitors access to your customers and let them (in effect) advertise on your premises.
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    9. Re:Video.google by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      Antitrust laws cover a variety of anti-competitive business practices.

      Traditionally anti-trust refers to monopolies and cartels that have control of a market. While I've seen a few laws that pertain to other matters labeled as anti-trust (mistakenly?) I don't see how any of them might apply here.

  18. Skimming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Any thoughts that YIM is skimming the URLs you type for personal use ?

    Maybe Youtube's links are being tracked as they are passed via YIM service ? Nothing says the messages are confidential. What's the likelyhood of this ? You could get customer data on the popularity of your viral (youtube) marketing , or make statistics as links traverse across these (IM) networks.

    We all know IMs aren't secure, but the thought of catching links with statistics drawn up by links being shared is a scary proposition. They've got your nickname, IP, who you frequently talk to and what links they/you send receive from them.

    Perhaps you could figure out what kind of information you're discussing ? With the YouTube tags you could assign "tags" to conversations that people talk about in IM. I sure hope I'm wrong though, the world gets scarier. With that idea though you could say the same for flickr and other tagging websites, delicious even ? Armed with that, the black helicopters are coming and the thought police have now, by association, got you nabbed.

    Who's going to invest in this new idea first ? Too bad I don't work at an IM related company or we'd already have this implemented and tracking those freeloaders !

    Sounds clever, and wouldn't be *that* tricky. A fun perl regexp would be able to yank it really fast. ( Who bets it's not Perl though ... )

    Later,

    Anon.

    1. Re:Skimming? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      Wow.
      I would give my right arm to track these things visually across a world map.
      It must be one of the most complex fractals ever created and the url is the key.
      Words can change and there are a thousand ways to say and mean "take a look at this" and a million responses.
      Listen to those responses and you have your perfect keywords to subjects.
      However the flower will not blossom if it is forced, it must be seeded correctly and allowed to grow.

      Information is power, talk face to face if you don't want it abused.

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    2. Re:Skimming? by stonedonkey · · Score: 1

      In practice, of course, the sheer amount of data coming in could not possibly be parsed in human terms. I wouldn't be surprised if they aggregated links (by tracking outgoing behavior, not by scanning text, natch), but I'd be very surprised if they were tracking IPs, let alone keeping track of some random asshole's Friends list.

  19. I am saved by sarathmenon · · Score: 2, Funny

    They haven't blocked http://www.pornotube.com/ yet!

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  20. Not just YouTube... by g_attrill · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have recently noticed that many URLs sent in IM's will disappear without a trace. It seems that often the FIRST URL sent will not get through, but subsequent ones will. For example I will open an IM window, send a URL then say "did you get that?" after they don't reply, then the person will reply "did I get what?". The ones I can recall where links to Photobucket.

    I think they are basically trying to stop the IM spam where URLs are randomly sent to users.

    1. Re:Not just YouTube... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ^-- far more likely

    2. Re:Not just YouTube... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Ah, fantastic job, Yahoo! In order to prevent URL-spamming, you block a URL unless it is sent repeatedly :-\

    3. Re:Not just YouTube... by Metaldsa · · Score: 1

      This happens to me at my office a lot. Co-workers forwarding interesting links and they just disappear. Happens once a week. So their filter is probably as good as a spam filter. Get hundreds of messages and occasionally lose one.

  21. Virus blocking? by bas.westerbaan · · Score: 1

    Maybe they implemented a protection to block IM virusses that propogate by sending links, but made it too generic.

  22. YouTube links pass well in by Neuropol · · Score: 2, Insightful

    IRC. We pass links back and forth like that all day.

    you could always try Tinyurl-ing them and see what happens.

  23. Drawing a pretty fine line there... by Kadin2048 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe due to malware, rather than Yahoo?

    Wait -- there's a difference?

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  24. So we already reported this by verystoned · · Score: 1

    And it got rejected. Anyhow it not only was happening with youtube, but google video urls too. I hope google puts yahoo out of buisness.

  25. Why did they do this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I don't understand why Yahoo would do this. For heaven sake, stop already! I've had enough, the Slashdot community has had enough. We don't like it. From now on I'm not using Yahoo or Yahoo services again. Sites that conduct business like this are ruining the Internet, which, in-turn, is ruining my life. I don't want to go home. I don't like how they did this to us. I am getting ready to cancel my Yahoo mail. I hate Yahoo. I'm not going to ever use this shit again. I'm sorry for the yelling but I hate that shit. I'm done. This is my last post for now.

  26. MS Messenger do also filter URL's... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    My recommendation: fuck commercial messengers and use Jabber.

  27. Maybe worm-spread prevention? by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2

    That actually makes a certain amount of sense. There were some worms floating around that would replicate themselves by sending an infected URL out as a message to all of your AIM contacts.

    There was a period of time a few years ago when I was getting 10-15 of these URL-messages a day. Didn't affect me any, because I used a Mac, but it might explain Yahoo's paranoia.

    However, I would find such a limitation incredibly annoying, since I often use IM applications to send people links. For example, let's say you're looking at a web site and want to send it to somebody in the next cube over -- rather than reading them the URL, you just cut-and-paste into an IM message. I can't tell you how many times I've done that.

    I knew there was a reason I never started using Yahoo Messenger.

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  28. Newsflash by Cobralisk · · Score: 1

    The internet is not anonymous. Online actions can be monitored, filtered, and traced, especially by corporations who provide free "tubes" of communication. Ask Mark Foley. News at 11.

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  29. Overreact? by truthsearch · · Score: 1, Interesting

    How is this overreacting? You're telling us everything in the article summary is correct, and even explaining why.

  30. Again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    1. Re:Again... by indraneil · · Score: 1

      I have personally sent myself a gmail invite on yahoo and found that it went to my spam folder. But this was like a year and a half back... when invites where only just beginning to spread. I have not tried doing that again, so cant say if that happens yet!

  31. They are doing it with passwords too!!! AWESOME!! by CupBeEmpty · · Score: 1, Funny

    It is pretty incredible but they also do this with your personal passwords and others' passwords. Try it! It must be a new safety feature. You can IM your passwords and they just don't go through. It also works with Yahoo email!!!!!!11111one2

  32. WTF?! by delirium+of+disorder · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why the hell aren't you using a free software chat client (so yahoo can't block anything client side), with encryption (so they can't block anything server side)? The are many benefits to free software and encryption beyond this particular situation. A proprietary chat client using a cleartext protocol just seams like idiocy from a security standpoint, especially in the age of Criminal/Corporate/ISP/NSA snooping.

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    1. Re:WTF?! by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      If you're going to bother setting up end-to-end encryption (which you can't use with anyone else who uses Yahoo Messenger, thus eliminating the entire reason for using Yahoo Messenger in the first place) why not just use Jabber?

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      $x=~y+ -xz+\0-Tx+;print$_^chop$me for split'',$x;
  33. This is apparently an old, old bug. by shark72 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sending URLs of any sort as Yahoo! IMs has been unreliable for me and my friends for at least a year. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it; some URLs just don't go through. I've noticed it when both parties are using Yahoo! Messenger and also when one or both parties are using Adium, so unless the bug also exists within Adium, it may be a server-side issue.

    I've found that preceeding the URL with some random text (I end up typing "click here:" or something similar) addresses the issue. It's only when the IM line consists solely of a URL that it randomly goes into the bit bucket.

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  34. Yahoo has every right... by bogaboga · · Score: 1

    ...Yes, Yahoo has every right to accept or refuse stuff that works on its products. Heck, where in Yahoo messenger's licence on "Terms of Use" does it say that it [Yahoo] should accept every sh*t with its products?

  35. Viral Marketting at its best by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

    Bravo to whoever thought of the idea.

    "buzz buzz buzz you know youtube doesn't work in yahoo buzz buzz buzz"

    "i didn't know that, lemme see if it works with xyz"

    Does this mean Sergey uses Y! messenger?

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  36. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.. by madhatter256 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hold on a minute. Since when did Yahoo become Yahoo-China?

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    1. Re:Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since they changed their name to Yah-_-

  37. Re:They are doing it with passwords too!!! AWESOME by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear Sir,

    Please post your yahoo instant messanger name and yahoo email so that I may test this oddity. If you cannot see the username and password I email you send me a message to inanun@mailinator.com

    Thank you and have a nice day.

  38. YRO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is this on Your Rights Online?

    This is a service issue, not an issue of rights.

  39. this si an outraeg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    anticompetitive behavior alert! summon teh government lawyers stat my rights are infringed!

  40. Maybe antivirus software? by jackharrer · · Score: 1

    As I know some antivir software have feature called safe IM or so (for example Zone Alarm).
    Maybe that software filters links that it suspects to be unsafe? That would explain filtering of first sent link. Rest are considered safe because user is sending them once again so there needs to be a reason.

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  41. Not "common carriers" but close. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm not sure that you're correct to call them a "common carrier." That term has a specific meaning under both traditional common law, and as used in U.S. law, and to my knowledge, ISPs -- much less network operators -- have been considered "common carriers" by neither. At least, so far. I think that you could come up with a very good argument for doing so, but I'm not sure it's been done by a court.

    However, as "Online Service Providers" (OSPs) computer communication networks are given certain 'Safe Harbor' provisions under the DMCA and the Communications Decency Act, which I believe Yahoo Messenger probably qualifies for. The requirements are spelled out in 512(c)(1)(A)(1) of the DMCA, aka the "Online Copyright Infringement Liability Limitation Act." Wikipedia has a nice summary here.

    It would seem to me anyway, that Yahoo could be eliminating their OCILLA/Safe Harbor examption, by weaking their plausible case for not having knowledge of infringing activity. It certainly doesn't seem like it's good for them to have any knowledge of what's being transmitted; just pass the bits and be done with it.

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    "Ladies and gentlemen, my killbot features Lotus Notes and a machine gun. It is the finest available."
    1. Re:Not "common carriers" but close. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      See my reply to the other poster... The court decision was about whether a company COULD claim "common carrier" status as a defense in court. It need not be "declared" to be a common carrier by anybody in order to be acting as one for practical purposes. In this particular suit against AOL, the answer was no, because AOL was moderating their chatroom. The court decided that controlling their content that way meant taht they could not claim commmon carrier status as a defense. Implied but not stated was the idea that if they had NOT controlled what was being posted in the chatrooms, they could have claimed immunity from the defamation suit because they would have been acting as a common carrier.

  42. Trillian by COMON$ · · Score: 1

    Ya well my trillian Pro install has a bias against url's in general. Any post of a URL with 32 characters or longer crashes the whole system! Must be that trillian is pushing tiny url....

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  43. Not happening because of Google by waden · · Score: 1

    I've noticed this at my work for the past month or so. I use Trillian, and when my coworker sends me a youtube link via Yahoo Messenger, it never shows up. I thought it was just me and I was going crazy!

  44. liar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just make some shit up slashdot -- loser

  45. MSN Messenger guilty too! by Bake · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you try to write a message to someone a URL that contains gallery.php or download.php, the entire message will not be delivered at all.

    1. Re:MSN Messenger guilty too! by ThJ · · Score: 2, Informative

      I can personally attest to this as well. It is a known filed bug in GAIM but they can't fix it since it's server side.

    2. Re:MSN Messenger guilty too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Two more are: .jpg.scr .pif

      Say them in a group chat, and it kills the whole chat.

    3. Re:MSN Messenger guilty too! by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      Fnord!

    4. Re:MSN Messenger guilty too! by QJimbo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Indeed. It also blocks ".pif". However it does a shockingly bad job of it. If you're in a multi-chat with several people, typing ".pif" will cause the "Network Error" message to come up and kick everyone out the chat. So you can effectively kill a multi-chat whenever you want =)

  46. Yikes by PacketScan · · Score: 1

    Well that is Fubar, one reason why i dropped yahoo years ago.

  47. I'm calling bullshit unless ppl can reproduce it by tacokill · · Score: 3, Informative

    I just tried this with a friend. I use Trillian. He uses Yahoo.

    We could both send Youtube links back and forth with no problem. We tried about 30 different times both with youtube.com as well as deep links directly to videos. No problems whatsoever.

    Is anyone else able to reproduce this? Until so, I am calling bullshit.

  48. Yahoo: Now even creepier! by Kadin2048 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If true that's almost creepier, since it suggests that in addition to just scanning the message for content and looking for some simple strings ("http://", "google", "youtube") that it's actually following the link and analyzing the content at the end of it.

    I guess the test would be to find a link that's blocked, and a link that's allowed; then put each one into a TinyURL and see if the same rules apply, or if they're both rejected or both accepted.

    I agree with some other people though, based on other things that Yahoo has done, this seems like a provision that was probably originally implemented to stop the spread of spam and malware, not necessarily for any nefarious purpose. However, it's overly broad and IMO they'd be better without it, both for their own good and so as not to aggravate their users.

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    1. Re:Yahoo: Now even creepier! by Aladrin · · Score: 1

      Or just send a link to your own webserver and watch the logs. If something other than your friend accesses it immediately, you know it's checking that.

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    2. Re:Yahoo: Now even creepier! by Kijori · · Score: 1

      Although if it's the YIM client that does the check this wouldn't lead to any decisive conclusions, just your friend accessing it.

    3. Re:Yahoo: Now even creepier! by smbarbour · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ahh, but that wouldn't hold true if you told your friend not to access it. Then, if activity shows up immediately, either YIM is checking it... or your friend is an idiot.

  49. Re:They are doing it with passwords too!!! AWESOME by From+A+Far+Away+Land · · Score: 2, Funny

    I tried sending ***** and it went through. So did 12345.

  50. What, no underground lair? by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

    ...and had to leave the office

    Slashdot has an office?

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    1. Re:What, no underground lair? by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1
      Slashdot has an office?

      Shh! It's only CmdrTaco's basement... but every man's home is his castle...

  51. Alternately by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

    Yahoo: It's here, it's broken, get used to it.

    Yahoo: It's there, it's broken, get used to something else.

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  52. 3 words.... by golgoj4 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    porn bot spam. I noticed yahoo started doing this with most urls and that i had to break them up for them to show up. I think this was in response to all the phishing and general scams via links posted. I dont know if youTube should feel special...it even blocks my website when I try and prove I have a job ;)

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  53. Re:Loss of communication can mean only one thing.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ... but I hate movie quotes, bring your own conclusions.
    I've got a bad feeling about this...
  54. Yahoo mail and groups have the same issues... by rubberbando · · Score: 1

    I think the actual problem is Yahoo's way of line wrapping long chunks of text.

    Basically, their system truncates the url when it line wraps the text. Nothing more...

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  55. old news. by itsdave · · Score: 1

    this has been going on for months. i convert all youtube links with tinyurl when sending via Yahoo IM.

  56. MSN was doing something similar by duguk · · Score: 1

    I can totally believe this. MSN was doing something similar, for a while it was blocking the url screwfix.com (a DIY shop) - in fact, in Windows MSN Live at least this is still the case (I don't really use MSN much!)

    Can anyone confirm *that*? :D

    Monkeyboi

  57. This happens with MSN too.. by nboscia · · Score: 1

    I've had the same thing happen on MSN Messenger with trying to receive links from friends. We could exchange any link, BUT ONE would never show up -- and I believe that was youtube. All the other text would come through, just not that particular URL. Oddly, other times it works fine.

  58. This problem exists since long time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I've been facing this problem since so long..
    its not just the URLs but anything that is pasted..
    it sometimes doesnt get thru..
    I used YM for sending code snippet to friends but it simply doesnt work sometimes..
    I was thinin that there is some problem with my Yahoo Msgr and I need to install it again..
    but then i had msn..
    i dont think this has to do with content filtering or something..
    it may be some bug in the software..

    1. Re:This problem exists since long time by Thanatos69 · · Score: 1

      I have a similar issue when I paste code. Most of it comes through but about 10% of it becomes smiley faces and the like.... I have been working day and night trying to figure out why and when I do, heads will turn, heads!

  59. antitrust by loteck · · Score: 1

    "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means" - Indigo Montoya, The Princess Bride

  60. no one said the CIA spying software was bug free.. by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 1

    Just a bug. The CIA will log it and fix it. Move on and pretend it didnt happen... or else.

  61. Interesting Addition by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2, Informative

    Get a chat client that adds an MD5 signature. It could tell you if the message was altered, unless they recompute the MD5 as well.

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  62. AIM blocks URLs too by elyograg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have found that an AIM chatroom will not accept certain URLs. It eats any message containing something it doesn't like. One notable example is anything from theonion.com. None of the URLs that trigger this behabior make any kind of sense to me. If you run any of the banned links through tinyurl, it is allowed through.

    A direct IM of the problem link outside the chatroom will make it through just fine.

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  63. Re:I'm calling bullshit unless ppl can reproduce i by jonfr · · Score: 1

    Maybe the block is build into the client.

  64. Slashdot also censors stuff by badzilla · · Score: 2, Funny

    I noticed this happens on Slashdot too, for example when I try to say it gets filtered out and never appears in the post. Neither does or .

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  65. Why not book quotes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was a dark and stormy night...

  66. It must be bullshit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    if you can't reproduce the error.

    Now that's bullshit!

  67. YIM? by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    I guess I've just never seen that particular abbreviation for Yahoo Messenger, but it sort of sounds like an IM client for furries to me.

  68. Re:I'm calling bullshit unless ppl can reproduce i by inKubus · · Score: 1

    April 1st is almost 6 months away! At least they didn't turn the damn background pink again.

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  69. Verified here...but only on Yahoo Windows IMclient by Kennon · · Score: 2, Informative

    My co-worker and I can reproduce this claim. Not sure it is intentional though. I am using GAIM on Linux and he is using the Yahoo IM client on windows and any message that contains http://www.youtube.com/ either directions is not going through...Tried it with my brother who is using GAIM on Linux as well (after disabling off the record messaging) and the message went through fine both directions. Weirdness...

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  70. Re:I'm calling bullshit unless ppl can reproduce i by R2.0 · · Score: 1

    Did you even read the submission? The editor DID reproduce it even before it was posted.

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  71. Re:Loss of communication can mean only one thing.. by pla · · Score: 1

    Loss of communication can mean only one thing...

    Some men, you just can't reach?



    ... but I hate movie quotes, bring your own conclusions.

    Sorry. :)

  72. tinyurl by DragonTHC · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    time for tinyurl.com

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  73. Adium text vs Y! 8.0 HTML by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    AFAIK, Adium doesn't use HTML clickable links.

    This in particular has to do with single line, URLs which is sent as the only text in the conversation. Thanks to this "news" article, now the spammers have got a clear analysis of what Y! blocks.

    Either way, expect more grandmas getting phished.
  74. Re:Simple test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes I tested it and found it true. I have added myself as a friend in the yahoo when i send http://www.youtube.com/ it does not display message. All other message are being displayed

  75. SlashFUD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SlashFUD

  76. Not one. by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have a Jabber ID that comes out to be the same place as my email address, and I flaunt both on every web forum I'm ever on. The email address gets 30-60 spams per day (nicely filtered by BogoFilter), the Jabber ID doesn't get a single one.

    I have two AIM accounts, two MSN accounts, a Jabber ID, a Google Talk account (as in, a Jabber ID @ gmail.com), and a Yahoo account.

    I do occasionally pop into AIM chatrooms for a laugh, and those are completely dominated by spambots. But even there, the bots simply spam the channel in predictable ways, waiting for someone to IM them so they can reply with a URL, or tell you to look in their profile for a URL.

    I also used to have some people as friends who were not too careful with their security, and were thus loaded with spyware. Their spyware sent me spam occasionally, I told them about it, they didn't care, so I blocked them.

    Those are the only two places I've seen spam over IM. I mostly use Gaim on Linux and Adium on OS X, and I've also used Fire, iChat, and Yahoo natively on OS X. I only get unsolicited messages when I'm in chatrooms, or when I bother to try to make Qunu work. Neither of those are spam.

    Frankly, I think either spammers haven't discovered IM networks, or a lot of effort has been made to make it hard to spam through them. The centralized approach probably helps a lot, too -- you can't exactly implement a CAPTCHA for Jabber, since anyone can set up their own server and register as many users as they want, but it's easy to implement a CAPTCHA for any of the other systems I'm on. Still, I'm never comfortable with any organization silently acting on my behalf, with no way to control that -- it smacks of ISPs putting VOIP traffic on high priority and ignoring SKYPE traffic. If you want to block messages to me, at least give me the option to unblock them, and default to off (prompt me when I sign up). Same with traffic shaping -- let me control how my own traffic is shaped, or at least let me turn off the shaping.

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    1. Re:Not one. by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1
      Frankly, I think either spammers haven't discovered IM networks, or a lot of effort has been made to make it hard to spam through them.
      Ever tried ICQ?

      I routinely get around 10-15 spam messages on my personal ICQ account these days.

    2. Re:Not one. by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      That's incredibly odd, especially considering AIM talks to ICQ, and vice versa.

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  77. Are you aware of Jabber? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    First, your SF page (and link) seems to be broken.

    But more importantly, if you're going to make people download software anyway, why not just have them use Jabber? Could Jabber be extended to do what you want?

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  78. I say we boycott them both by shaze · · Score: 0

    This is nothing, Messenger has been blocking anything containing the suffix "download.php" in a URL since forever, who knows what else they're doing. (ie. http://isohunt.com/download.php?etc123) http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Messenger+Cens oring+download.php&meta=

  79. I'm glad I stick to Jabber by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    Not even Google can censor me. (Except they can, of course, because most people on Jabber think they're using a service called "gtalk", but at least the potential is there.)

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  80. Re:Don't use yahoo... control freaks R us by gekoscan · · Score: 1

    I refuse to use yahoo services. It's almost like early catholicism lol.. the only justification for such action is purely trying to control control control.. When you start losing something you grip even tighter to try and hang on. Seriously do they have board meetings and decide.. "okay today we are going to block youtube.com" muahahahahah our users will thanks us? It's purely in yahoo's interest not their users and any customer should avoid using a service when that service isn't strictly about the consumer.

  81. Catbutt has a point. by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    It is well within Google's rights to censor search results, even in the US. It is well within MS's rights to have Internet Explorer block the Firefox download site. It is well within my rights to block the Microsoft IP ranges from my domain.

    "Within their rights" does not mean "reasonable". If my brother shows up at my door starving and shaking with cold, it is well within my rights to not do a thing for him, or maybe leave him outside and call an ambulence to prevent him from freezing. It would also be a truly sick thing to do anything other than bring him inside, warm him up by the fire, and give him a hot meal.

    In this case, the danger is that it happens silently. Imagine taking a car for a test drive, being thrilled with it, taking it home, and finding that it had an onboard GPS that's programmed to cut the engine whenever you get near a rival dealership. It's well within their rights to do that, and embed it somewhere in the contract that they're allowed to do that. It's still a disgusting thing to do, and completely unheard of in the automotive world. Yes, you would switch to the rival dealership, but the problem is, you've already bought the car.

    So, same problem here. All your friends are on Yahoo, you've been using it for years, and suddenly they do something asinine like this. Only it's becoming more commonplace -- I believe MSN has similar rules that filter out an entire message. But even if you can always guarantee an alternative (like gtalk) -- not always acceptible, as gtalk does't have video chat -- there's still the problem of convincing all your friends to switch. Chances are, most of them will be too lazy to care, especially if you were the one who introduced you to Yahoo in the first place, and because they'd have to tell their friends, and their friends, and so on.

    It's like the problem of trying to switch away from an OS, only harder. The only thing that makes it easier is the ability to run more than one at a time, without any real disadvantage.

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  82. What competitor? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    Yahoo blocks random stuff. I believe AIM blocks some things, though I don't remember what, and besides, it's AOL. MSN blocks download.php.

    All we have left is gtalk. It would be awesome if gtalk was a viable replacement, but it's not -- it doesn't have video chat, doesn't have voice on Linux or OSX (that I know of), and there aren't enough people using it to completely boycott the others. All the same things apply to Jabber (since Gtalk is just centrallized, Google-ized Jabber).

    Regardless, no matter how much it is Yahoo's right to do this, it is still asinine of them to do it.

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    1. Re:What competitor? by SirTalon42 · · Score: 1

      GTalk HAS voice and video. Also GTalk supports Server-to-Server, and has for a good while now. Also Jabber (and the GTalk server) won't be able to replace AIM/MSN/Yahoo if people refuse to ever use it because theres not enough people to completely replace all the others.

      Also I use AIM network (with the GAIM client, I wouldn't touch the official client with a 10 foot pole) and don't believe I have ever had a message filtered before.

  83. I think I figured it out by Tinman_au · · Score: 1

    Yahoo is stealing the URLs to beam into outer space http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/10/174924 5

  84. It's true by cmarguel · · Score: 1

    A lot of people seem to doubt that this is true. I can confirm this. I submitted this story here a full year ago, but it never got approved. Other sites I could not link to were imageshack.us and friendster.com. Some other less famous sites were also affected. Strangely, however, such links _did_ work on random occassions. Many of my friends tested it, and observed that this behavior was independent of the client used, and that results were the same regardless of country of origin. There simply was no way to get it to happen 100% of the time, but when it did happen, it was consistent for the whole period we were logged in and all the friends we tried talking to. Nowadays, we have developed the habit of prefacing a link with "sending link..." and "link sent" just to make sure that it was received.

  85. Re:Verified here...but only on Yahoo Windows IMcli by awehttam · · Score: 1
    Another poster mentioned MSN blocking gallery.php and download.php, I've never seen this behavour before (we're frequently pasting gallery links back and forth), but I'd put a six pack on Yahoo and MSN using keyword filters to mitigate sudden out breaks of viral traffic.

    gallery.php and download.php are known targets for backdoor attacks, and YouTube is known to suffer from cross-site scripting vulernabilities. It doesn't make sense for them to be censoring these for any other reason.

  86. Re:I'm calling bullshit unless ppl can reproduce i by thegoogler · · Score: 1

    i've had problems with this any number of times, especially recently.

    it's totally random when it will show up, i've sent two links to imageshack in a row and had one not work and one work. it's not even always the first one either.

    as has been mentioned already, putting "link:" before the link or any other normal text fixes it 100% of the time.

  87. Myspace too by Nooie · · Score: 1

    I was in Yahoo Games playong Texas Hold'em and posted my Myspace address to one of the other players, it didn't come up either. Try it1

  88. IETF standardized Internet IM already... by Baloo+Ursidae · · Score: 1

    ...and they picked jabber for a reason. I think Google puts the philosophy behind Jabber best in their Google Talk FAQ. Long story short, if you all used Jabber, this wouldn't ever have been an issue to begin with...

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  89. Without free-softwares or freewares ... by file-exists-p · · Score: 1

    This kind of story gives us a flavor of the degree of vendor-locking we would have without free softwares or freewares written by non-corporate programmers.

  90. Antitrust?? by Khyber · · Score: 1

    No. AntiCompetitive? Yes. Illegall anticompetitive? Not hardly. Yahoo will just find themselves driving people away in droves from their service (GAIM FTW, now hurry up and release VV, damnit!) for other services/clients that won't allow that kind of bullshit to happen. In the end, they'll just see their network get smaller, and that only hurts them, not the competition.

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  91. Not just YouTube? by KoRnhornio · · Score: 1

    I've been seeing this for several months, but I never noticed it being limited to YouTube URLs. I had just assumed it was yet another bug in YIM.

  92. sounds more like a firewall problem by Magdalene · · Score: 1

    or their office is blocking the urls, or your email or instant msgr is cutting off the http at 80 char or something. .. ....or perhaps there is an FBI agent sitting on top of your roof personally censoring all your msgs for content correctness. ... thats the most likely story... im going with that.

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  93. It's not just YouTube by ChrisKnight · · Score: 1

    I noticed the same problem with BlogSpot URLs yesterday, and I documented it here:

    http://www.ghostwheel.com/merlin/Personal/notes/20 06/10/09/can-you-trust-your-chat-service/

    -Chris

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    1. Re:It's not just YouTube by King-of-darkness · · Score: 1

      yeah, noticed it a while ago.
      and since I only have 1 person on my yahoo list, I thought it must be an exception.
      I always tried to paste him my blog url, and he never sees it.

  94. The gori details... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
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    Check out DieGrenzgaenger.lu and this site and go on from there. You can find references to Mr Greene's past in the internet. He is a Hungarian resident but native from the Bahamas. Also check out firms like Cambridge Global and Slender Lifeoperating in Vienna.Use the "webarchive" and the Google cache to check the past.

  95. MSN Messenger do the same by Oliver_Etchebarne · · Score: 1

    ...they block messages if the words "download.php", "gallery.php", and others are within. It's blocked in they servers, no matter what client you are using: The message will return to you with a "Failed to send message..."

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  96. Even if this were true by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    I still wouldn't give a flying fuck.

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  97. obbash. by xtracto · · Score: 1
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  98. Photobucket URLs Also(?) Blocked by BlueStrat · · Score: 1

    I can't say one way or another about youtube URL blocking, but I can say from long experience that yahoo chat servers (not clients) block photobucket.com URLs. I'm in a band, and I have band photos on photobucket, and every time I try to post a link to them in chat, the URLs (along with any accompanying text in the post) get eaten. I can post links to everything else I've tried with no problem, but not anything with photbucket.com.

    I've tried with multiple clients across at least 4 different OSs, and every attempt is blocked. Even placing a space between the 'h' and 'ttp' in 'http' to break the link doesn't help. Only if I either misspell 'photobucket' or place a space in the name does it get through. I'm thinking Yahoo is blocking photobucket URLs because they have a competing photo sharing/hosting service (Yahoo Photos).

    I find it to be quite petty, and convinces me to never ever use Yahoos' photo service, or any other Yahoo services besides IM/chat. If they are willing to go to these lengths over something so small, how do I know what else they might do to any of my data that I might send or be sent (possibly even including e-mail) with any of their other services?

    There's simply too many alternatives to put up with that.

    Cheers!

    Strat

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  99. Re:I'm calling bullshit unless ppl can reproduce i by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Until so, I am calling bullshit.
    I 2nd your nomination of bullshit. WTF, didn't an editor try out this easily reproducable item that no one can reproduce? Here's the Register making fun of Slashdot http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/11/youtube_ya hoo_conspiracy/
     
    The big story here is that a crowd of people wearing tinfoil hats are easy to rile up.

  100. I've had this problem before, with gaim only by behdad · · Score: 1

    I've had this problem of links not passing on Y! for a few months now. It happens with random links, mostly the ones with request strings. It only happens when sent from gaim. Couldn't identify more details.

  101. RE: Blocking youtube.com by WeeBit · · Score: 1