Yeah I was going to use it to network my vending machine... Is the java-applet approach their standard tool, and you have to control the serial interface from a remote host? I was under the impression that the actual point of the whole thing was to allow you to develop an internal application. Does the dev kit not allow you to do this? Do you truly have to 'hack' the firmware or is it simply a matter of compiling your own app for the thing?
I have been very eager to try some projects with the XPort from Lantronix. It's technically not single chip but really it's about as close as you can get for what it does. It fits in an ethernet hood, so it's small enough to put into most anything that needs ethernet. Very cool little gadget...
OK, I will bite on this, but I'll only do it once so listen up. I don't really care who you are or what you think of me personally, but I think there are a couple of things you are way out of touch about.
I quit that whole LEK/Edison mess in November of 2000 because I felt like they were about to start on a downward spiral and they were wanting to do things that I was unwilling to be a part of, such as the spamming you are talking about, though they had not started any of it yet. I was the first person to quit the edison comapny, whatever it was called at the time. I never worked on a single customer's website or equipment during my time there. I never recommended investment in the company to anyone. Working as a technician prior at LEK, I occasionally recommended their products to people I knew or walk-in customers in my capacity as an employee, but I was never a salesman. I continue to personally support the LEK systems of many people to whom I made these recommendations who were left abandoned by LEK. At the time I began working there, the company was strong and had good products and good support, and I tried to do a good job for them. Do not take out your frustrations on that company on me. I have nothing to do with them at all. I hate them as much as anyone else and it is really sad about all the people that they ended up totally screwing, especially considering that LEK Technologies might still be around, prospering, and a reputable business if it hand't been so horribly mismanaged.
At least it's finally gone. Lloyd's bankruptcy was in the paper a few weeks ago. I understand he works for SBC Yellow Pages now as an ad salesman. I believe they lost all their domains in a lawsuit, so who knows what happened to all that.
Anyway, sorry for whatever it was that I did to you that makes you feel compelled to troll me. I find it truly insane that you seem to hate me enough that you find time to do all of this. Perhaps you will see this. Anyway, hope you're having a nice day!
Sure, it's a little more expensive, but think of all the fine honeys you'll get. You won't even have to get em drunk first, which can add up to substantially lower total cost of ownership.
Oh really? I thought the re-engineering done to POWER4 was to simplify the design, make it less expensive to fabricate, and give it a higher clockspeed so that IBM could replace the aging POWER4 with it without running into compatibility problems for the existing software base... In essence, the PPC970 was designed for ther RS6000 and the AS/400 as Apple apperently had no interest in the POWER4 architecture at the time.
It would have been a great business move, too for Apple to have replaced Motorola's G3/4 with the significantly slower and more expensive POWER4 units. That would certainly have helped all the critisism that they were selling slower hardware for too much money.
I guess it should have been obvious to me that all IBM really wanted to do all this time was design a chip for Apple desktops! *smacks forehead* I guess since IBM can't push POWER4 any futher they'll just start switching all of their RS6000 people over to POWERMAC G5 DESKTOPS, with thier new mac "desktop chip" - whatever the fuck that means.
It saddens me greatly to see fellow mac users who are so defensive and jaded that they can't even recognize the merits of their own systems. Luckily, for us IBM was able to sell Apple on the chip and hopefully the increased income from having Apple as a customer will accelerate development of the line and we'll really get to see some 3+GHz monster macs by year end. Here's hoping.
That's not really true. You can definately have an older car repaired or the engine replaced with something cleaner and come out well on top. They do recycle most of the stuff, and all of that aluminum, steel, etc will not have to be remanufactured, which is where the real problem is - the original creation of the aluminum/steel.
I see them almost every year when they come through here. I guess I'll have to call to find out when they expect them - Their website doesnt show dates they are supposed to meet the stops.
I hate to be a ballbreaker, but the PPC970 was designed as a server/workstation chip also, and is already being deployed as such. Apple just built a system around it and called it a "Personal Computer". It's funny that you are such a blind zealot and cannot recognize that high-end macs are actually workstation-class units and are often directly marketed against SGI and Sun systems in the professional graphics industry.
The same thing would happen if Gateway picked up the Opteron and started selling it to people as a regular PC, but the difference is that there are other, less expensive chips such at the P4 3ghz+ for the home user that give comprable performance at a much lower price point to the 64 bit chips like Opteron for the applications that most people use.
Rest assured that if the powerpc were available at 2.0GHz in its 64 bit incarnation AND 3.0GHz in a "G4 equivalent" chip, Apple would definately be pushing the later at the "Personal Computer" market and the former ath the "Workstation/Server" market. As it is, they have to push the G5 chip at both markets, which is really not so bad as it will lower the price of the higher-end chip and hopefully feed more development for IBM to get the speed bumped on it.
When you start getting into the territory of best uptime and fastest response between all network providers in the entire world, the game simply becomes too close to call, and the ordering of the hosts becomes simply the luck of the draw (that's why not one month of this set of NetCraft statistics is very consistent with any other month) Without monitoring statistics from both inside and outside for all these networks, it is virtually impossible to rank them all.
Just because some provider responds to a DNS or web query 1ms faster than the next guy doesn't mean they are a more reliable provider. Maybe they just have fewer customers and, thus, a little bit smaller DNS database or more room to 'spread out' the users between different machines. I know netcraft monitors from various geographical and network-isolated locations on the Internet, but the law of averages doesn't help them much here. Say they monitor from 100 hosts and one of those 100 hosts has a "connection reset by peer" type TCP (RST) error due to a local router (ie not the provider's problem) doing a DNS query and it logs a time of 100ms instead of 15ms and one failed attempt? It might not happen to the other guy's host monitored even 200ms later.
Netcraft would have to be monitoring from very large numbers of machines (100,000+) to even come close to being able to tell the difference between these networks from outside. I have a feeling most all of them on the list are very good and reliable, and aside from uptime, reliability means more than the response time of your DNS or web servers. No matter what OS or network gear you use, when you introduce redundancy and failover, you necessarily introduce more equipment and more complexity that will slow things down an inconsequential amount at the gain of another '9' or whatnot.
Anyway, the point is, don't take the order of this list too seriously. The fact that any company is on the list means they have made a serious effort to provide a good and reliable network.
Yes, but it has never happened 'by default' using standard tools. With the sheer number of mirror sites Debian relies on, it really is a big security risk -- since you might be getting your distribution 'third-hand' (ie from a mirror of a mirror) but the site is still labelled as an official channel.
Plus, a lot of the packages in the standard distribution don't get signed in this way yet. Thankfully, that's starting to change, and the next release of stable (sarge) may at least include an option to turn on signature verification.
I'm sure this will erupt into a huge flamewar like the last time it was posted when all it boils down to is that it doesn't really matter much to end users about the package format as long as the installation and upgrades are made easy. For me, aptitude/apt with.deb packages has proven easiest, but a lot of people like apt with RPM or RedCarpet or rpmfind or whatever else is out there. Lindows users use the 'one-click' install thing not even caring that there are.deb's behind the scene.
Part of the reason, I think that the deb format has always seemed to hold together really well is that most all of teh deb using distributions are so tightly integrated with the main debian distribution that packages are always totoally interchangeable (and are very good to notify you when they will not work.)
RPM on the other hand is adopted by many different and sligtly incompatible distributions that often finding the libraries and applications you want to install is difficult not because RPM's are hard to find but because RPM's that work in your current setup are hard to find.
This is simply why the management tool(s) on both ends (creating packages and maintaining installed packages) matter way more than the package formats themselves. Deb's are very compicated but sometimes easier to deal with because of all the good debhelper tools. RPM's are most often more 'hand-crafted', but they are a lot easier to create from scratch for many people.
The thing I really hate about deb's is the lack of signature verification. It's absolutely central to the development/upload/build process but until very recent efforts has been a total pain to use on the installation front. There is no good reason for this either.
Here's an idea: Put your machines in airtight fireproof enclosures full of somethign other than oxygen - Nitrogen or CO2 woudl work fine. Deal with the heat problem with heat exchangers or closed loop A/C. If you only have ten boxes, it'd definatley be cheaper than a gaseous supression system such as FM-200. Itsenclosures.com sells products suitable for this purpose.
For the rest of the house - sprinklers, buddy.
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Try PicoGUI with the ncurses input/output devices.
Well, transparent decompression uses software compression via zlib to squeeze more data onto the disc.. Not very useful if you are storing MP3 files or JPEG's for archival. The plextor drive's raw capacity seems to be 1GB, so with transparent decompression, knoppix could fit maybe 700 megs MORE data in the CD distro.. but then you could only use it on one drive...
KNOPPIX is going to be doing a DVD-based distribution soon, though. That will be slick and overloaded with stuff.
Your food does dry out in the fridge. That's why you have to put it inside something. Just set a piece of bread on the shelf in there for a day or so and see what you get.
And in some other countries, the amount of spectrum and power the US allows for WiFi operation seems absolutely immense! ETSI regulations in Europe bring maximum power output down much lower than in the US and in Canada, only half of the same 2.4GHz US ISM band is available for license-free broadcast, though the power output restrictions are the same.
That is T568B and is the generally accepted wiring standard for single cables of 10BaseT, 100BaseTX and 1000BaseTX. I just mention this because a lot of female connectors don't have the pins correlated in order on the back of the connector, so be sure that if you're using T568B you get a jack with a T568B wiring diagram on it.
A suprising number of products start this way. This company seems to have a marketing department going at it full force already, though, which is a questionable move since it may harm any OEM's they eventually get a contract with. I wouldn't lump them in with Celera and call them stupid though. Obviously, they don't have the expertese, funds, or experience to ramp this thing up for themselves, so they're taking bids on someone else to pick it up. It's a win-win-win thing. They make money from their invention. The manufacturer makes money selling the thing, and the consumer gets a good product (hopefully)
Besides, somehow, don't you think they'd be involved in assisting a manufacturer with R&D through the implementation process? Somehow I would think that all that money they get after "sitting around waiting for the cheques to arrive" might just be money they have earned.
We didnt use them for a long time because we still had a case o' ball mice. When you buy em in bulk, they come up to about $2.50 each which isnt so bad since they last on average 6months or so.
Even the optical mice die with age, though. I have had most of the really old (1st gen intellimouse optical) ones die, and a few logitechs too.
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Yeah I was going to use it to network my vending machine... Is the java-applet approach their standard tool, and you have to control the serial interface from a remote host? I was under the impression that the actual point of the whole thing was to allow you to develop an internal application. Does the dev kit not allow you to do this? Do you truly have to 'hack' the firmware or is it simply a matter of compiling your own app for the thing?
~GoRK
I have been very eager to try some projects with the XPort from Lantronix. It's technically not single chip but really it's about as close as you can get for what it does. It fits in an ethernet hood, so it's small enough to put into most anything that needs ethernet. Very cool little gadget...
~GoRK
OK, I will bite on this, but I'll only do it once so listen up. I don't really care who you are or what you think of me personally, but I think there are a couple of things you are way out of touch about.
I quit that whole LEK/Edison mess in November of 2000 because I felt like they were about to start on a downward spiral and they were wanting to do things that I was unwilling to be a part of, such as the spamming you are talking about, though they had not started any of it yet. I was the first person to quit the edison comapny, whatever it was called at the time. I never worked on a single customer's website or equipment during my time there. I never recommended investment in the company to anyone. Working as a technician prior at LEK, I occasionally recommended their products to people I knew or walk-in customers in my capacity as an employee, but I was never a salesman. I continue to personally support the LEK systems of many people to whom I made these recommendations who were left abandoned by LEK. At the time I began working there, the company was strong and had good products and good support, and I tried to do a good job for them. Do not take out your frustrations on that company on me. I have nothing to do with them at all. I hate them as much as anyone else and it is really sad about all the people that they ended up totally screwing, especially considering that LEK Technologies might still be around, prospering, and a reputable business if it hand't been so horribly mismanaged.
At least it's finally gone. Lloyd's bankruptcy was in the paper a few weeks ago. I understand he works for SBC Yellow Pages now as an ad salesman. I believe they lost all their domains in a lawsuit, so who knows what happened to all that.
Anyway, sorry for whatever it was that I did to you that makes you feel compelled to troll me. I find it truly insane that you seem to hate me enough that you find time to do all of this. Perhaps you will see this. Anyway, hope you're having a nice day!
~GoRK
Why whiten when you can get Mr. Bling instead?
Sure, it's a little more expensive, but think of all the fine honeys you'll get. You won't even have to get em drunk first, which can add up to substantially lower total cost of ownership.
~GoRK
Thanks very much!
Thanks for the positive feedback. It's very nice to have someone reply to one of my comments who agrees with me for once. Welcome to my friend list.
Oh really? I thought the re-engineering done to POWER4 was to simplify the design, make it less expensive to fabricate, and give it a higher clockspeed so that IBM could replace the aging POWER4 with it without running into compatibility problems for the existing software base... In essence, the PPC970 was designed for ther RS6000 and the AS/400 as Apple apperently had no interest in the POWER4 architecture at the time.
It would have been a great business move, too for Apple to have replaced Motorola's G3/4 with the significantly slower and more expensive POWER4 units. That would certainly have helped all the critisism that they were selling slower hardware for too much money.
I guess it should have been obvious to me that all IBM really wanted to do all this time was design a chip for Apple desktops! *smacks forehead* I guess since IBM can't push POWER4 any futher they'll just start switching all of their RS6000 people over to POWERMAC G5 DESKTOPS, with thier new mac "desktop chip" - whatever the fuck that means.
It saddens me greatly to see fellow mac users who are so defensive and jaded that they can't even recognize the merits of their own systems. Luckily, for us IBM was able to sell Apple on the chip and hopefully the increased income from having Apple as a customer will accelerate development of the line and we'll really get to see some 3+GHz monster macs by year end. Here's hoping.
Remember the original Quake (Q1) soccer mod where you kicked around a dismembered head?!? That ruled!
That's not really true. You can definately have an older car repaired or the engine replaced with something cleaner and come out well on top. They do recycle most of the stuff, and all of that aluminum, steel, etc will not have to be remanufactured, which is where the real problem is - the original creation of the aluminum/steel.
I see them almost every year when they come through here. I guess I'll have to call to find out when they expect them - Their website doesnt show dates they are supposed to meet the stops.
I hate to be a ballbreaker, but the PPC970 was designed as a server/workstation chip also, and is already being deployed as such. Apple just built a system around it and called it a "Personal Computer". It's funny that you are such a blind zealot and cannot recognize that high-end macs are actually workstation-class units and are often directly marketed against SGI and Sun systems in the professional graphics industry.
The same thing would happen if Gateway picked up the Opteron and started selling it to people as a regular PC, but the difference is that there are other, less expensive chips such at the P4 3ghz+ for the home user that give comprable performance at a much lower price point to the 64 bit chips like Opteron for the applications that most people use.
Rest assured that if the powerpc were available at 2.0GHz in its 64 bit incarnation AND 3.0GHz in a "G4 equivalent" chip, Apple would definately be pushing the later at the "Personal Computer" market and the former ath the "Workstation/Server" market. As it is, they have to push the G5 chip at both markets, which is really not so bad as it will lower the price of the higher-end chip and hopefully feed more development for IBM to get the speed bumped on it.
When you start getting into the territory of best uptime and fastest response between all network providers in the entire world, the game simply becomes too close to call, and the ordering of the hosts becomes simply the luck of the draw (that's why not one month of this set of NetCraft statistics is very consistent with any other month) Without monitoring statistics from both inside and outside for all these networks, it is virtually impossible to rank them all.
Just because some provider responds to a DNS or web query 1ms faster than the next guy doesn't mean they are a more reliable provider. Maybe they just have fewer customers and, thus, a little bit smaller DNS database or more room to 'spread out' the users between different machines. I know netcraft monitors from various geographical and network-isolated locations on the Internet, but the law of averages doesn't help them much here. Say they monitor from 100 hosts and one of those 100 hosts has a "connection reset by peer" type TCP (RST) error due to a local router (ie not the provider's problem) doing a DNS query and it logs a time of 100ms instead of 15ms and one failed attempt? It might not happen to the other guy's host monitored even 200ms later.
Netcraft would have to be monitoring from very large numbers of machines (100,000+) to even come close to being able to tell the difference between these networks from outside. I have a feeling most all of them on the list are very good and reliable, and aside from uptime, reliability means more than the response time of your DNS or web servers. No matter what OS or network gear you use, when you introduce redundancy and failover, you necessarily introduce more equipment and more complexity that will slow things down an inconsequential amount at the gain of another '9' or whatnot.
Anyway, the point is, don't take the order of this list too seriously. The fact that any company is on the list means they have made a serious effort to provide a good and reliable network.
~GoRK
This reminds me of some of the most common last words:
"Check this out! - It's gonna work!"
Yes, but it has never happened 'by default' using standard tools. With the sheer number of mirror sites Debian relies on, it really is a big security risk -- since you might be getting your distribution 'third-hand' (ie from a mirror of a mirror) but the site is still labelled as an official channel.
Plus, a lot of the packages in the standard distribution don't get signed in this way yet. Thankfully, that's starting to change, and the next release of stable (sarge) may at least include an option to turn on signature verification.
Of course they update it via Software Update. It is, after all, their software update service. It's not even out yet. Big fuckin deal.
I'm sure this will erupt into a huge flamewar like the last time it was posted when all it boils down to is that it doesn't really matter much to end users about the package format as long as the installation and upgrades are made easy. For me, aptitude/apt with .deb packages has proven easiest, but a lot of people like apt with RPM or RedCarpet or rpmfind or whatever else is out there. Lindows users use the 'one-click' install thing not even caring that there are .deb's behind the scene.
Part of the reason, I think that the deb format has always seemed to hold together really well is that most all of teh deb using distributions are so tightly integrated with the main debian distribution that packages are always totoally interchangeable (and are very good to notify you when they will not work.)
RPM on the other hand is adopted by many different and sligtly incompatible distributions that often finding the libraries and applications you want to install is difficult not because RPM's are hard to find but because RPM's that work in your current setup are hard to find.
This is simply why the management tool(s) on both ends (creating packages and maintaining installed packages) matter way more than the package formats themselves. Deb's are very compicated but sometimes easier to deal with because of all the good debhelper tools. RPM's are most often more 'hand-crafted', but they are a lot easier to create from scratch for many people.
The thing I really hate about deb's is the lack of signature verification. It's absolutely central to the development/upload/build process but until very recent efforts has been a total pain to use on the installation front. There is no good reason for this either.
~GoRK
Here's an idea: Put your machines in airtight fireproof enclosures full of somethign other than oxygen - Nitrogen or CO2 woudl work fine. Deal with the heat problem with heat exchangers or closed loop A/C. If you only have ten boxes, it'd definatley be cheaper than a gaseous supression system such as FM-200. Itsenclosures.com sells products suitable for this purpose.
For the rest of the house - sprinklers, buddy.
Try PicoGUI with the ncurses input/output devices.
Well, I mean if they give away a DVD, someone will make the image available probably. They don't want to distribute it due to the bandwidth I guess.
Well, transparent decompression uses software compression via zlib to squeeze more data onto the disc.. Not very useful if you are storing MP3 files or JPEG's for archival. The plextor drive's raw capacity seems to be 1GB, so with transparent decompression, knoppix could fit maybe 700 megs MORE data in the CD distro.. but then you could only use it on one drive...
KNOPPIX is going to be doing a DVD-based distribution soon, though. That will be slick and overloaded with stuff.
~GoRK
Your food does dry out in the fridge. That's why you have to put it inside something. Just set a piece of bread on the shelf in there for a day or so and see what you get.
And in some other countries, the amount of spectrum and power the US allows for WiFi operation seems absolutely immense! ETSI regulations in Europe bring maximum power output down much lower than in the US and in Canada, only half of the same 2.4GHz US ISM band is available for license-free broadcast, though the power output restrictions are the same.
That is T568B and is the generally accepted wiring standard for single cables of 10BaseT, 100BaseTX and 1000BaseTX. I just mention this because a lot of female connectors don't have the pins correlated in order on the back of the connector, so be sure that if you're using T568B you get a jack with a T568B wiring diagram on it.
A suprising number of products start this way. This company seems to have a marketing department going at it full force already, though, which is a questionable move since it may harm any OEM's they eventually get a contract with. I wouldn't lump them in with Celera and call them stupid though. Obviously, they don't have the expertese, funds, or experience to ramp this thing up for themselves, so they're taking bids on someone else to pick it up. It's a win-win-win thing. They make money from their invention. The manufacturer makes money selling the thing, and the consumer gets a good product (hopefully)
Besides, somehow, don't you think they'd be involved in assisting a manufacturer with R&D through the implementation process? Somehow I would think that all that money they get after "sitting around waiting for the cheques to arrive" might just be money they have earned.
We didnt use them for a long time because we still had a case o' ball mice. When you buy em in bulk, they come up to about $2.50 each which isnt so bad since they last on average 6months or so.
Even the optical mice die with age, though. I have had most of the really old (1st gen intellimouse optical) ones die, and a few logitechs too.
~GoRK