If your spammers are using Turk or any other form of human labour, all bets are off. I can't think of any reliable way to stop the captcha being captured and played back to another person. A time limit would make it harder, but isn't a problem if you can get your solvers working real-time.
Letter substitution or jumbling would totally muck up a screen reader, though. Humans' very efficient reading only works with visual reading, in which case you're back to square one, a visual captcha.
If you use something like wikipedia for your legit sentences then cracking it is simple. Google each sentence, the one which turns up exact phrase results is legit.
We don't need to argue about whether they exist or not, or say they might or probably do exist. Get the people who claim to have magic ears, apply double blind testing, and now we know.
I bought Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto on Amazon. Great quality MP3s and all, but apparently they were ripped from an ancient piece of vinyl with a frankly ridiculous level of crackle and several loud pops which made me fear for my speakers. (I wouldn't have minded except the 30s preview carefully avoided any obvious noise). Happily I got a refund.
I wonder if you could get all your programming work done this way, splitting it into small chunks and asking applicants to do them, and turning them all down...
That's not really the point. The point is that you can either make stuff up or be very misleading and lots of people will loudly go along with it (I believe a bunch of people went out and got a lot of signatures on a petition to ban DHMO). I'm sure if you made up something entirely nonexistent or found some other very obscure but pretty safe chemical you could get the same effect, but the fact that it's water makes it all the more amusing (And makes the fact that it's not actually evil more readily apparent to the informed reader).
"Oh well, I lost my moderations but I felt like saying this anyway. And don't blame me if some 'c's are missing, my key is a bit broken."
-Cill
But some actual economics will tell you this is only true in a perfect competition, which the mobile market is not. Some providers/do/ do vheaper texts and do not have 100% of the market, proving this.
Aalso, there is no reason texts should cost how much sending them costs + sensible markup. Disregarding profits, cell companies have X running costs and so have to get ~X money from somewhere, but not necessarily proportionately to costs. See: rich bohemoths making mad losses on something to get into the market.
If the penalty was the same as the reward, there would be no.disincentive - if you get caught, you just give the money back, if not, you keep it. Since theres a chance you won't get caught, that makes it statistically a net gain to do it.
In this place of the UK, the area code tells you very much where/what you're calling, be it a normal landline, mobile, premium or free number. Even the cost of the number is often specified just in the area code. And if that's not enough there's a website which does premium rate phone number lookups. (Hint: 08 and 09, apart from 0800, are generally costy)
That's fission, they really are pretty different. On a hobby level, fission consists of lots of playing with radioactive things and all that. Fusion consists of putting some gas in a box, turning it on, putting a whole lot of power in and ending up with a different gas in the box.
Indeed, at our engineering department a student society just had one sitting on a table in a corner and didn't mention it, as though it was a completely normal thing to have around.
I think most of the power of the current game comes from the determinism, allowing design of complicated stuff. In order for any kind of pattern to withstand mutations I expect you'd need an awful lot more stuff overall (redundancy?), i.e. bigger universes, far more cycles...
is pumping petrol without paying first not standard in the USA? Here in the UK I've never seen a place that doesn't do that. Though, all places have automated camera plate-loggers
Do you really need them all, all the time? I've gone modular with my keys - Each group gets it's own keyring and the lot goes on a mini karabiner. I have college keys (room, college key), bike keys (Two bike locks), drinking keys (Bottle opener, discount card thing), car key (Goes on its own so I can detach it and avoid driving jangles), house keys. When I'm going to head out, I grab/ditch until I have just what I need. Means if I lose them I lose less, I don't have bogloads of keys all the time, and it stops me getting sidetracked and going for random cycles when I shouldn't (It's a 3 minute walk from my bike to my room where the keys are, which is long enough to make me think out whether i really have time for it)
I have an audigy 2 ex and audigy 4 - both cards appear nearly identical, both with the external box things, giving me three line ins (two large phone (The first also usable as microphone) one double-phono), full size midi in and out, optical in and out, digital coax in and out, volume knob, microphone level knob as well as an IR receiver, 5.1 output, as good a quality as I can distinguish, an extra back-plate with RS232/joystick. Also, pretty winful linux support (not alll the trimmings but all the ins and outs work)
Admittedly, keygens are probably among the most likely software to contain a trojan or something. However, that sort of hand-hacked code does quite often throw up false positives. I've quite often found AVG complaining about cygwin executables or scene demos (Which usually have convoluted compressed executables, probably similar to trojans)
Funny, I get the opposite problem with my N95 - with my pretty sensitive sennheiser rippoff in ears, the minimum volume without being muted (10%) is too loud for me sometimes. I get a similar problem with my ipod (running rockbox) - the minimum volume is still pretty loud and it just mutes if I try to go lower.
I can't see iceweasel doing anything proactive to change the menu system. I thought they were just rebranding
But yeh, a fork would be good. Why in the name of god can't they just make it an option!?
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If your spammers are using Turk or any other form of human labour, all bets are off. I can't think of any reliable way to stop the captcha being captured and played back to another person. A time limit would make it harder, but isn't a problem if you can get your solvers working real-time.
Letter substitution or jumbling would totally muck up a screen reader, though. Humans' very efficient reading only works with visual reading, in which case you're back to square one, a visual captcha.
If you use something like wikipedia for your legit sentences then cracking it is simple. Google each sentence, the one which turns up exact phrase results is legit.
We don't need to argue about whether they exist or not, or say they might or probably do exist. Get the people who claim to have magic ears, apply double blind testing, and now we know.
I bought Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto on Amazon. Great quality MP3s and all, but apparently they were ripped from an ancient piece of vinyl with a frankly ridiculous level of crackle and several loud pops which made me fear for my speakers. (I wouldn't have minded except the 30s preview carefully avoided any obvious noise). Happily I got a refund.
Genuinely not sure whether joking or audiophile.
Hang on, what? Are you saying if I write something, then repeat what I wrote in an anonymous context, that's plagiarism?
I wonder if you could get all your programming work done this way, splitting it into small chunks and asking applicants to do them, and turning them all down...
That's not really the point. The point is that you can either make stuff up or be very misleading and lots of people will loudly go along with it (I believe a bunch of people went out and got a lot of signatures on a petition to ban DHMO). I'm sure if you made up something entirely nonexistent or found some other very obscure but pretty safe chemical you could get the same effect, but the fact that it's water makes it all the more amusing (And makes the fact that it's not actually evil more readily apparent to the informed reader).
"Oh well, I lost my moderations but I felt like saying this anyway. And don't blame me if some 'c's are missing, my key is a bit broken." -Cill
But some actual economics will tell you this is only true in a perfect competition, which the mobile market is not. Some providers /do/ do vheaper texts and do not have 100% of the market, proving this.
Aalso, there is no reason texts should cost how much sending them costs + sensible markup. Disregarding profits, cell companies have X running costs and so have to get ~X money from somewhere, but not necessarily proportionately to costs. See: rich bohemoths making mad losses on something to get into the market.
If the penalty was the same as the reward, there would be no.disincentive - if you get caught, you just give the money back, if not, you keep it. Since theres a chance you won't get caught, that makes it statistically a net gain to do it.
In this place of the UK, the area code tells you very much where/what you're calling, be it a normal landline, mobile, premium or free number. Even the cost of the number is often specified just in the area code. And if that's not enough there's a website which does premium rate phone number lookups. (Hint: 08 and 09, apart from 0800, are generally costy)
That's fission, they really are pretty different. On a hobby level, fission consists of lots of playing with radioactive things and all that. Fusion consists of putting some gas in a box, turning it on, putting a whole lot of power in and ending up with a different gas in the box.
Indeed, at our engineering department a student society just had one sitting on a table in a corner and didn't mention it, as though it was a completely normal thing to have around.
I think most of the power of the current game comes from the determinism, allowing design of complicated stuff. In order for any kind of pattern to withstand mutations I expect you'd need an awful lot more stuff overall (redundancy?), i.e. bigger universes, far more cycles...
is pumping petrol without paying first not standard in the USA? Here in the UK I've never seen a place that doesn't do that. Though, all places have automated camera plate-loggers
Do you really need them all, all the time? I've gone modular with my keys - Each group gets it's own keyring and the lot goes on a mini karabiner. I have college keys (room, college key), bike keys (Two bike locks), drinking keys (Bottle opener, discount card thing), car key (Goes on its own so I can detach it and avoid driving jangles), house keys. When I'm going to head out, I grab/ditch until I have just what I need. Means if I lose them I lose less, I don't have bogloads of keys all the time, and it stops me getting sidetracked and going for random cycles when I shouldn't (It's a 3 minute walk from my bike to my room where the keys are, which is long enough to make me think out whether i really have time for it)
I have an audigy 2 ex and audigy 4 - both cards appear nearly identical, both with the external box things, giving me three line ins (two large phone (The first also usable as microphone) one double-phono), full size midi in and out, optical in and out, digital coax in and out, volume knob, microphone level knob as well as an IR receiver, 5.1 output, as good a quality as I can distinguish, an extra back-plate with RS232/joystick. Also, pretty winful linux support (not alll the trimmings but all the ins and outs work)
Admittedly, keygens are probably among the most likely software to contain a trojan or something. However, that sort of hand-hacked code does quite often throw up false positives. I've quite often found AVG complaining about cygwin executables or scene demos (Which usually have convoluted compressed executables, probably similar to trojans)
In the UK you can get that for £6, which probably works out to about $10ish
Funny, I get the opposite problem with my N95 - with my pretty sensitive sennheiser rippoff in ears, the minimum volume without being muted (10%) is too loud for me sometimes. I get a similar problem with my ipod (running rockbox) - the minimum volume is still pretty loud and it just mutes if I try to go lower.
Regarding the last note, read Altered Carbon - interesting book on that topic - murder in a world of resurrection.
Good on you, but not everybody thinks that. (Originally I put "Unfortunately not everybody thinks that", but I guess it's their/your choice).
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I can't see iceweasel doing anything proactive to change the menu system. I thought they were just rebranding But yeh, a fork would be good. Why in the name of god can't they just make it an option!?