How about you provide examples of where discoveries such as this have NOT been used to document and catalog people?
Is it really THAT FAR FETCHED to see hospitals and organizations advertising this in the future as a way to combat terrorism, or a way to prevent your child from being kidnapped, or to find your lost pets, or to ensure your baby isn't misplaced after birth, or a million other reasons I can think of?
How about a perfect way to take DNA from crime-scenes and having a few high-profile cases solved thanks to this DNA barcode, which then opens up excuses for everyone to be barcoded at birth, is it REALLY that hard to see this?
If I told you 50 years ago that you wouldn't be able to take a bottle of water on an airplane with you, you'd call be a conspiracy theorist, if I told you 50 years ago that protests would be shut down using sound cannons, if I told you 50 years ago that police will take blood samples from you at random spot checks, you'd call me a conspiracy theorist.. and yet - today this all seems pretty normal to you.
Do you not see the irony in this? Not even one little bit?
I was recently contacted by a hiring agency. I am currently working an entry-level IT position as a Technical Analyst at a major bank in Canada. I'm currently in college and am doing this as a co-op 4-month term. I posted my resume online because I wanted to start my career and not bother with school (if I were given a proper and well-paid position).
I was called and had a phone interview. The interviewer was so pleased with me that we basically agreed on the salary over the phone and said he would send along the papers to be signed by me so I can start my new job in the next 2-3 weeks.
I decided to wait until I sign to hand in my resignation at my current employer. After waiting 4 days I got impatient and called back, he simply said "Oh, uhmm.. ugh, sorry - the position was taken by someone else, I'm sure something else will come up".
If I hadn't such a poor expectation of competency's from the general populace, I would have QUIT my co-op job (a big no-no), forfeited my co-op credit at college, having to repeat the course, and possibly never worked with this employer again, and god knows what else.
I bet Microsoft will be all over the courts trying to stop this thing, and you know what?!.. I bet this news will sell thousands more units, knowing we can screw around with it in our own way.. they just don't get it.
If I may add, I have NEVER seen a plane produce so much steam on take off, where is it all coming from? Can anyone explain? Why does no other plane on video, produced this same effect, ever - AFAIK?
The OP is not using the correct analogy. When someone is standing on a corner of a street and "yelling" things, I do not have a choice but to hear what he's saying (unless I somehow block all his audio), the WiFi signals on the other hand have to be willfully intercepted and recorded, meaning there was INTENT to collect this data that by all standards was probably "assumed" private by those using their WiFi modems for internet.
The law says a "reasonable expectation of privacy" - and I can bet 100% that most of those WiFi users probably thought their passwords are not being collected by the google car driving outside, and I think that'd be reasonable.
That's like saying I can walk into your home and walk around because you left the door open, and I can already see the inside of your house and what's in it through a window, so what's the difference on what side of the window I'm on?...
Even though your house has see-through windows, you still have a "reasonable" expectation of privacy in it, even if there is none.
Uhmm.. all profits go back to Toyota in Japan, apart from the worker's wages. If there's anything good in this as far as "U.S. economy" goes, its Tesla.
The government's job is to provide you with essential services, you know... water, electricity, a police force.. not spending your dollars to pay people to be readying ANYTHING that does not help in providing said services.
People are pissed what METHOD was used?!.. The problem is that there even WAS any reading/spying done at all!
If a motorist can throw off your whole day and influence "hundreds of cars", then it sounds to me like you have scheduling issues rather than a problem with motorists screwing up your plans because of their stops.
How they always introduce these technologies as fun, as if they're only made for football games and boxing matches.
Expect to see these at any large political rally, big people's gathering, or any other public event where those darn ever-so-elusive terrorrists are hiding. Just make sure you don't make your thoughts known to people in the crowd, lest you end up on the no-fly-list because you support the wrong candidate.
Can you enlighten us as to how one may aquire copius ammounts of bandwidth without paying it?! Criminals are one thing, but I can't think of a single scenario where a criminal can use bandwidth yet NOBODY pays for it. Perhaps he piggy-backs on someone else's connection, but that connection is STILL BEING PAID FOR by some poor smuch somewhere.
It's unfortunate that you think your friends are the only ones who would find this information most valuable. The other Facebook "friends" such your local Police would be most interested in this as well, should a car be stolen in the area where you posted from at that exact time for example - even if you had nothing to do with it.
This judge supports personal freedoms and accepts that public servants work for us. He's clearly a tea party supporter or a terrorist, I can't be sure - better send him to Guantanomo and put him on the no-fly list.
This is typical where you give people the choice of rating something. Same goes for music. People on a music torrent tracker rate every single torrent uploaded, even without ever downloading it - just because they don't like the artist,. and make sure nobody else does either.
Or they do the opposite and rate every single song by his "best" artist a 5/5, even if the song is total shite.
This is more of an internal social conflict rather than some mathematical dillema, it's just people being people (and by people, I mean dicks).
Hmm? Obama's home country *IS* Kenya, even Michelle Obama says so herself, so I don't know who you're trying to convince otherwise. You can hear her yourself if this is the first you've heard of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJutTlONc3Q
I don't know about worshipping Stalin though, I'm guessing you threw that in for the joke.
Uhmm, government reading your mail? This is already happening.
What most Americans don't know is that on Dec. 13, 2003, the right to privacy suffered another serious blow. On that day, after the capture of Saddam Hussein, President Bush signed into law the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004. This statute expands the term "financial institution" so as to include travel agencies and car dealers, casinos and hotels, real estate and insurance agents and lawyers, news stands and pawn brokers, and even the Post Office.
Now, without you knowing it, the Justice Department can learn where you traveled, what you spent, what you ate, what you paid to finance your car and your house, what you confided to your lawyer and insurance and real estate agents, and what periodicals you read without having to demonstrate any evidence or even suspicion of criminal activity on your part. And the government can now, for the first time in American history, without obtaining the approval of a court, read your mail before you do, and prosecute you on the basis of what it reads. (Of course, if the government doesn't prosecute you, you'll likely never even know that it has invaded your privacy.)
Commentary
By Andrew P. Napolitano
The Wall Street Journal
3-10-4
Ha, I bet Al Gore is salivating at this news. Owning much of the "green" industry he is sure to profit from this news, and any other armageddon scenario's that may crop up.
According to http://www.righthavenlawsuits.com/ - they have filed 117 similiar suits in the past, recovering a total of $104,000. Doing some hardcore math, it comes out to being awarded about $888 in damages per suit.
Is this really what this is about? Going to court so you can pay off 2 months worth of cellphone and ISP bills?...pathetic.
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How about you provide examples of where discoveries such as this have NOT been used to document and catalog people?
Is it really THAT FAR FETCHED to see hospitals and organizations advertising this in the future as a way to combat terrorism, or a way to prevent your child from being kidnapped, or to find your lost pets, or to ensure your baby isn't misplaced after birth, or a million other reasons I can think of?
How about a perfect way to take DNA from crime-scenes and having a few high-profile cases solved thanks to this DNA barcode, which then opens up excuses for everyone to be barcoded at birth, is it REALLY that hard to see this?
If I told you 50 years ago that you wouldn't be able to take a bottle of water on an airplane with you, you'd call be a conspiracy theorist, if I told you 50 years ago that protests would be shut down using sound cannons, if I told you 50 years ago that police will take blood samples from you at random spot checks, you'd call me a conspiracy theorist.. and yet - today this all seems pretty normal to you.
Do you not see the irony in this? Not even one little bit?
I was recently contacted by a hiring agency. I am currently working an entry-level IT position as a Technical Analyst at a major bank in Canada. I'm currently in college and am doing this as a co-op 4-month term. I posted my resume online because I wanted to start my career and not bother with school (if I were given a proper and well-paid position).
I was called and had a phone interview. The interviewer was so pleased with me that we basically agreed on the salary over the phone and said he would send along the papers to be signed by me so I can start my new job in the next 2-3 weeks.
I decided to wait until I sign to hand in my resignation at my current employer. After waiting 4 days I got impatient and called back, he simply said "Oh, uhmm.. ugh, sorry - the position was taken by someone else, I'm sure something else will come up".
If I hadn't such a poor expectation of competency's from the general populace, I would have QUIT my co-op job (a big no-no), forfeited my co-op credit at college, having to repeat the course, and possibly never worked with this employer again, and god knows what else.
I bet Microsoft will be all over the courts trying to stop this thing, and you know what?!.. I bet this news will sell thousands more units, knowing we can screw around with it in our own way.. they just don't get it.
So that's it then? This is the final word?...
If I may add, I have NEVER seen a plane produce so much steam on take off, where is it all coming from? Can anyone explain? Why does no other plane on video, produced this same effect, ever - AFAIK?
The OP is not using the correct analogy. When someone is standing on a corner of a street and "yelling" things, I do not have a choice but to hear what he's saying (unless I somehow block all his audio), the WiFi signals on the other hand have to be willfully intercepted and recorded, meaning there was INTENT to collect this data that by all standards was probably "assumed" private by those using their WiFi modems for internet. The law says a "reasonable expectation of privacy" - and I can bet 100% that most of those WiFi users probably thought their passwords are not being collected by the google car driving outside, and I think that'd be reasonable. That's like saying I can walk into your home and walk around because you left the door open, and I can already see the inside of your house and what's in it through a window, so what's the difference on what side of the window I'm on?... Even though your house has see-through windows, you still have a "reasonable" expectation of privacy in it, even if there is none.
Can you explain to me how you can broadcast URL's, passwords, email addresses, etc.. over a broadcast beacon alert? I'd like to be enlightened.
Uhmm.. all profits go back to Toyota in Japan, apart from the worker's wages. If there's anything good in this as far as "U.S. economy" goes, its Tesla.
The government's job is to provide you with essential services, you know... water, electricity, a police force.. not spending your dollars to pay people to be readying ANYTHING that does not help in providing said services. People are pissed what METHOD was used?!.. The problem is that there even WAS any reading/spying done at all!
If a motorist can throw off your whole day and influence "hundreds of cars", then it sounds to me like you have scheduling issues rather than a problem with motorists screwing up your plans because of their stops.
How they always introduce these technologies as fun, as if they're only made for football games and boxing matches.
Expect to see these at any large political rally, big people's gathering, or any other public event where those darn ever-so-elusive terrorrists are hiding. Just make sure you don't make your thoughts known to people in the crowd, lest you end up on the no-fly-list because you support the wrong candidate.
This thread is relative to my interests.
Sounds exactly the same as their counterpart in the U.S.. Oh, and Canada too, wait.. make that most countries.
Can you enlighten us as to how one may aquire copius ammounts of bandwidth without paying it?! Criminals are one thing, but I can't think of a single scenario where a criminal can use bandwidth yet NOBODY pays for it. Perhaps he piggy-backs on someone else's connection, but that connection is STILL BEING PAID FOR by some poor smuch somewhere.
It's unfortunate that you think your friends are the only ones who would find this information most valuable. The other Facebook "friends" such your local Police would be most interested in this as well, should a car be stolen in the area where you posted from at that exact time for example - even if you had nothing to do with it.
This judge supports personal freedoms and accepts that public servants work for us. He's clearly a tea party supporter or a terrorist, I can't be sure - better send him to Guantanomo and put him on the no-fly list.
This is typical where you give people the choice of rating something. Same goes for music. People on a music torrent tracker rate every single torrent uploaded, even without ever downloading it - just because they don't like the artist,. and make sure nobody else does either.
Or they do the opposite and rate every single song by his "best" artist a 5/5, even if the song is total shite.
This is more of an internal social conflict rather than some mathematical dillema, it's just people being people (and by people, I mean dicks).
Michelle Obama said this not me... wtf? what do you want from me? Shouldn't you be trying to convince her then?
Hmm? Obama's home country *IS* Kenya, even Michelle Obama says so herself, so I don't know who you're trying to convince otherwise. You can hear her yourself if this is the first you've heard of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJutTlONc3Q
I don't know about worshipping Stalin though, I'm guessing you threw that in for the joke.
They just had Vin Diesel attach two bottles of NOZ.. BIG ONES.. bro
STOP IT!! You're making too much sense!! The socialists and liberals don't understand this "logic" thing!!
Ha, I bet Al Gore is salivating at this news. Owning much of the "green" industry he is sure to profit from this news, and any other armageddon scenario's that may crop up.
According to http://www.righthavenlawsuits.com/ - they have filed 117 similiar suits in the past, recovering a total of $104,000. Doing some hardcore math, it comes out to being awarded about $888 in damages per suit.
...pathetic.
Is this really what this is about? Going to court so you can pay off 2 months worth of cellphone and ISP bills?
This is what Nevada is gonna look like now with old grannies speeding: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6WHg5SihVY