Do we, as the the Linux community want to push Linux into the mainstream? People want to use things that are familiar. To really capture a business market, we would have to consolidate desktops.
If we, as the Linux community, care more about using Linux the way we want to use it, then more desktop environment choices are better.
I have not used the latest versions of either Gnome or KDE, but I can tell you from the versions I'm using (whatever's on Redhat 6.2) that neither is as easy to use as Windows or MacOS.
So, what do we want? Will we ever even agree on it?
Slightly OT - Something that got dicussed a while back, and something I think needs revisiting now is the idea of "compliancy levels."
For instance, we all know what glibc 2.1, Mesa 3.4, SDL 1.1 and X Windows DRI 4.03 means. (your versions may vary.) The average user doesn't, and doesn't care. Application programmers do. Maybe we should consider designating "levels" to which a system contains at least some baselevel of the included libraries. Call it "Gamelevel" or "Application Level" and give it a number, like what M$ does with DirectX. Give developers a common target to shoot for, at least. Make it easy for users to upgrade their machines to this level.
I think this would go a long way toward helping Linux achieve greater distribution.
(2) by the reproduction or distribution, including by
electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copies
or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a
total retail value of more than $1,000, shall be punished as provided under section 2319 of title 18, United States Code. For purposes of this subsection, evidence of reproduction or distribution of a copyrighted work, by itself, shall not be sufficient to establish willful infringement.
So then, $999.99 it is! Now. Is that the msrp or the retail value of all those mp3's I have? I don't have full albums, so what is a song worth?
Apparently the codecs in these players can be updated to support new music formats. What's involved in writing a new codec to support, say, Vorbis files?
Unions aren't going to work so well in the Internet community.
For one, you don't actually need to work or live where the business actually is for lots of things.
For another, the job market is so good, if your job sucks, LEAVE. Do you have any idea how many unskilled computer workers there are out there? If you can do your job with even half a brain, companies love you. Lots of paper MCSE's out there...
If unions get too crazy, businesses will just start hiring foreign workers.
One of the things I love about my job is that I don't have union politics. None of this "you can't try that, you can't do that, it's not your job, I'll file a grievance with the union rep" bullshit.
And, just try to get some slacking idiot out of a position. Wait and wait for the union to agree he's a dirtbag.
I don't think you know what you're asking for here.
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Here you go again troll.
Bwahahahaahha!
Most of my posts make it to 5 (check my karma if you don't believe me). Especially considering how rarely I post to/., being marked a troll is beyond funny:)
Ok maybe just immature
Honestly, i don't see why an observation about the performance of GlassCode isn't a valid comment when the code itself is released.
Dude maybe you do know something about coding, and maybe you don't. But apparently you know nothing about hardware. The Celeron (the machine this app is running on) has only 128k of cache. You ever see a server with low cache try to handle high I/O? Ever wonder why server cpu's have up to 8 megs of cache sometimes?
Plus, this guy is sharing bandwidth with someone else. Also as someone so appropriately pointed out earlier, many much larger sites have failed beneath the/. load.
I'll be the first to admit that Java likes lots of memory in the heap, and he's only got 128 megs of ram. I'd be interested to see how slashcode compares to this on the same hardware. Plus, the guy's probably using an non-raid IDE drive. Not the most efficient choice for any server. I'm amazed the dang thing didn't just give up the ghost. It got slow, but didn't die.
So either point out possible improvements or shut the hell up and write your own.
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If I had mod points I'd troll you. C'mon. It's a new system, running on minimum hardware, not yet tested by a real Slashdotting load. How about trying constructive critcism? How about keeping the Java trolling ON TOPIC?
If you're seriously convinced that something else is better write it yourself and show us.
I'm usually surprised to see black guys programming. Why?
At the college I went to (an engineering school) the majority of black men and women attended the liberal arts/Afro-American studies major.
A friend of mine, Tavia, was in the same engineering program as I was. A black woman engineer. She tended to stand out in class:) But, she was an incredibly talented and intelligent person. She got great grades. I often asked her for help, and we worked together on several lab projects. She became friends with a number of the engineering students and we ate lunch together, and just hung out a lot.
The black men and women at our campus tended to eat lunch in their own little cluster in the corner. They took a pretty dim view of Tavia eating lunch with us. They'd come right up to her and say things like "Forget what color you are?"
They'd tear decorations off her dorm room door. They physically and verbally harassed her. How can black people who want to advance deal with this kind of pressure? I sure wouldn't know how.
I feel that the black community is just as responsible as the white community for the current conditions.
Nobody runs at this res. Sure, it looks pretty there, but it also looks pretty damn nice at 800x600 4X FSAA, which is a much more realistic resolution, and that doesn't run at 9 fps.
So try it out before you start bitching about how unrealistic the framerate is.
I got pretty much the minimum download. I notice now that when I run N6, I have a java console icon in my systray (on WinNT4). Dunno why they did this, but everything seems good, renders pages fast. Stupid AOL icon got deleted immediately.
he was also a professional in all matters of foreign affairs
Ummm, bombing an aspirin factory is a professional act? Allowing nuclear secrets to be stolen, with exactly 0 reprisals is professional? Making the sanctity of the Oval Office, and his position a laughingstock is professional?
C'mon. GW ain't perfect but don't tell me Clinton knows how to behave. That's like saying Ted Kennedy has sexual restraint.
Manufacturers are catching up to this. My Asus K7v comes with a Win32 app that flashes the bios.
I was a little nervous about using it, and I wouldn't use it on an unstable or overclocked system, just to be safe, but I have had zero problems with it.
The nice thing about it is that if you muff up the flash (used the wrong image, program crashed, etc) you can reflash, provided you don't reboot your machine.
This is SO on the money. I think the single biggest improvement that Slashdot could make is 3a.
Kuro5hin uses this to good effect. Slashdot can learn from Kuro5hin, just like Kuro5hin learned from Slashdot.
Perhaps Taco and Hemos are genuinely so busy with other things that they can't involve themselves the way it's perceived (by some) that they used to. For that matter, maybe they want to move on in life. (GASP! LIFE AFTER SLASHDOT NO WAY:)
In any case, there are certainly no shortage of volunteers who are willing to take up the task, I think.
I'm a Linux user. But as a sysadmin, would I allow people outside of my group to be configuring and changing my network topology without permission? Would I let users set up their own domains, outside my control, but within my support? NEVER. I'd probably reprimand or fire anyone working under me for changing network topology without my say-so.
That being said, if those same people could prove to me that a new configuration (software, hardware, whatever) would improve the network without a negative impact, well I'd be sure to at least consider it. You have to take into consideration:
* Existing topology, is it compatible?
* Existing staff, what is their experience? Can they support this?
Many of our upper level managers have suggested we move from Solaris to a Windows environment. Lord knows MS salepeople sure have.
What is the real cost of this upgrade? Don't forget that TRAINING your personnel, or hiring new personnel is part of this cost. What if people leave because of the change? Lost productivity training new people equals LOTS of lost revenue.
Not a bad idea...until you realize that again, the property falls out of our hands and into the state's hands. Which amounts to forcing us to surrender the property to the state.
Should we be forced into this? If we do this, the land's usefulness as farmland is destroyed. We have no say in how the land is used, or what is done to it. Once farmland is gone, you can never reclaim it. Development destroys the land's usefulness for farming.
To be fair, we have considered this. So don't take this as a slam on your suggestion:) This is a valid way to fight the current system...I say demolish the current system. Then we, and people like us are not forced into doing something like this to protect the land.
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Do we, as the the Linux community want to push Linux into the mainstream? People want to use things that are familiar. To really capture a business market, we would have to consolidate desktops.
If we, as the Linux community, care more about using Linux the way we want to use it, then more desktop environment choices are better.
I have not used the latest versions of either Gnome or KDE, but I can tell you from the versions I'm using (whatever's on Redhat 6.2) that neither is as easy to use as Windows or MacOS.
So, what do we want? Will we ever even agree on it?
Slightly OT - Something that got dicussed a while back, and something I think needs revisiting now is the idea of "compliancy levels."
For instance, we all know what glibc 2.1, Mesa 3.4, SDL 1.1 and X Windows DRI 4.03 means. (your versions may vary.) The average user doesn't, and doesn't care. Application programmers do. Maybe we should consider designating "levels" to which a system contains at least some baselevel of the included libraries. Call it "Gamelevel" or "Application Level" and give it a number, like what M$ does with DirectX. Give developers a common target to shoot for, at least. Make it easy for users to upgrade their machines to this level.
I think this would go a long way toward helping Linux achieve greater distribution.
DOH! :P
cite == the act of making a statement
Hemos == the condition of being someone without a spell and grammer checker
:)
He said _he_ believes that only God can create a soul. He also said that _he_ believes technically nothing can happen excepting that God permits.
He never said that clones had no soul, only that _he_ believes God alone creates souls.
All the questions he asked were retorical, not attacking. Take a freaking chill pill.
Does the need for open-mindedness only apply to religious types, are non-religious types by virtue of their non-belief somehow exempt?
dude, awesome post :)
So then, $999.99 it is! Now. Is that the msrp or the retail value of all those mp3's I have? I don't have full albums, so what is a song worth?
Apparently the codecs in these players can be updated to support new music formats. What's involved in writing a new codec to support, say, Vorbis files?
Estimated lifetime of the screen: 10000 hours. That's a little over a year, if constantly on.
Cost of manufacturing: Estimated the same or less. Current expenses are, well, damned expensive.
How is a screen that may or may not be cheaper and won't last as long a better alternative? What, I can roll it up?
For one, you don't actually need to work or live where the business actually is for lots of things.
For another, the job market is so good, if your job sucks, LEAVE. Do you have any idea how many unskilled computer workers there are out there? If you can do your job with even half a brain, companies love you. Lots of paper MCSE's out there...
If unions get too crazy, businesses will just start hiring foreign workers.
One of the things I love about my job is that I don't have union politics. None of this "you can't try that, you can't do that, it's not your job, I'll file a grievance with the union rep" bullshit.
And, just try to get some slacking idiot out of a position. Wait and wait for the union to agree he's a dirtbag.
I don't think you know what you're asking for here.
Bwahahahaahha! /., being marked a troll is beyond funny :)
Most of my posts make it to 5 (check my karma if you don't believe me). Especially considering how rarely I post to
Ok maybe just immature
Honestly, i don't see why an observation about the performance of GlassCode isn't a valid comment when the code itself is released.
Dude maybe you do know something about coding, and maybe you don't. But apparently you know nothing about hardware. The Celeron (the machine this app is running on) has only 128k of cache. You ever see a server with low cache try to handle high I/O? Ever wonder why server cpu's have up to 8 megs of cache sometimes?
Plus, this guy is sharing bandwidth with someone else. Also as someone so appropriately pointed out earlier, many much larger sites have failed beneath the /. load.
I'll be the first to admit that Java likes lots of memory in the heap, and he's only got 128 megs of ram. I'd be interested to see how slashcode compares to this on the same hardware. Plus, the guy's probably using an non-raid IDE drive. Not the most efficient choice for any server. I'm amazed the dang thing didn't just give up the ghost. It got slow, but didn't die.
So either point out possible improvements or shut the hell up and write your own.
If you're seriously convinced that something else is better write it yourself and show us.
Kudos to the author of Glasscode!
Disclaimer: I'm a white guy.
I'm usually surprised to see black guys programming. Why?
At the college I went to (an engineering school) the majority of black men and women attended the liberal arts/Afro-American studies major.
A friend of mine, Tavia, was in the same engineering program as I was. A black woman engineer. She tended to stand out in class :) But, she was an incredibly talented and intelligent person. She got great grades. I often asked her for help, and we worked together on several lab projects. She became friends with a number of the engineering students and we ate lunch together, and just hung out a lot.
The black men and women at our campus tended to eat lunch in their own little cluster in the corner. They took a pretty dim view of Tavia eating lunch with us. They'd come right up to her and say things like "Forget what color you are?" They'd tear decorations off her dorm room door. They physically and verbally harassed her. How can black people who want to advance deal with this kind of pressure? I sure wouldn't know how.
I feel that the black community is just as responsible as the white community for the current conditions.
1280x980, 4X FSAA
Nobody runs at this res. Sure, it looks pretty there, but it also looks pretty damn nice at 800x600 4X FSAA, which is a much more realistic resolution, and that doesn't run at 9 fps.
So try it out before you start bitching about how unrealistic the framerate is.
THIS
link.
Ummm moderators, I don't see how this AC's comment is "Offtopic" ...perhaps he's trolling, but he's not offtopic.
Taco just cut loose with a Java troll! :)
hahaha, nice :)
I got pretty much the minimum download. I notice now that when I run N6, I have a java console icon in my systray (on WinNT4). Dunno why they did this, but everything seems good, renders pages fast. Stupid AOL icon got deleted immediately.
Well, I don't agree with your choice, but I did defend your right to it, and would again. Thank you for recognizing the Armed Forces.
I'm assuming this isn't a troll.
he was also a professional in all matters of foreign affairs
Ummm, bombing an aspirin factory is a professional act? Allowing nuclear secrets to be stolen, with exactly 0 reprisals is professional? Making the sanctity of the Oval Office, and his position a laughingstock is professional?
C'mon. GW ain't perfect but don't tell me Clinton knows how to behave. That's like saying Ted Kennedy has sexual restraint.
I was a little nervous about using it, and I wouldn't use it on an unstable or overclocked system, just to be safe, but I have had zero problems with it.
The nice thing about it is that if you muff up the flash (used the wrong image, program crashed, etc) you can reflash, provided you don't reboot your machine.
What I'd like to know is who modded this clear "troll" up...
Kuro5hin uses this to good effect. Slashdot can learn from Kuro5hin, just like Kuro5hin learned from Slashdot.
Perhaps Taco and Hemos are genuinely so busy with other things that they can't involve themselves the way it's perceived (by some) that they used to. For that matter, maybe they want to move on in life. (GASP! LIFE AFTER SLASHDOT NO WAY :)
In any case, there are certainly no shortage of volunteers who are willing to take up the task, I think.
That being said, if those same people could prove to me that a new configuration (software, hardware, whatever) would improve the network without a negative impact, well I'd be sure to at least consider it. You have to take into consideration:
* Existing topology, is it compatible?
* Existing staff, what is their experience? Can they support this?
Many of our upper level managers have suggested we move from Solaris to a Windows environment. Lord knows MS salepeople sure have.
What is the real cost of this upgrade? Don't forget that TRAINING your personnel, or hiring new personnel is part of this cost. What if people leave because of the change? Lost productivity training new people equals LOTS of lost revenue.
That's what you have to prove to managers.
Not a bad idea...until you realize that again, the property falls out of our hands and into the state's hands. Which amounts to forcing us to surrender the property to the state.
Should we be forced into this? If we do this, the land's usefulness as farmland is destroyed. We have no say in how the land is used, or what is done to it. Once farmland is gone, you can never reclaim it. Development destroys the land's usefulness for farming.
To be fair, we have considered this. So don't take this as a slam on your suggestion :) This is a valid way to fight the current system...I say demolish the current system. Then we, and people like us are not forced into doing something like this to protect the land.