You also forgot that developers actually make money on the App store.
But some developers are complaining that, possibly because the Android market started out with exclusively free apps, they are having trouble selling applications.
"Over the weekend I've had a few downloads for my $0.99 app, but I guess I was expecting more," wrote "stonedonkey" in the Android forum. "I'm curious if people just aren't willing to pay, if they are having issues, or there just aren't really that many phones in use?"
"I was wondering same myself," wrote another developer, "Sundog." "I certainly expected a game with a demo in the top ten and an installed base of over 50,000 to get more than a couple of dozen purchases over the weekend."
For some reason people feel better rooting for an underdog, even if it starts to show the same exact features as what what they hope it will replace such as tethering being banned People only hear what they want to hear.
"Brand awareness is a marketing concept that refers to a consumer knowing of a brand's existence; at aggregate (brand) level it refers to the proportion of consumers who know of the brand." [Reference] Most businesses put an extreme amount of weight into brand awareness...it is one of the very important foundations of the meaning of commercials....but they all could very well be wrong.
In Opera's case, users may not decide on it the first time. But the next time they see the icon, the more likely they are to try it out because they recognize it.
And Apple is getting lambasted sometimes for the wrong reasons just like MS now. Go figure.
I think it's important to put this in perspective- Apple eventually dropped their lock-in DRM from the iTMS (but not until more than a year after some of their competitors, like Amazon)
That is because they were fighting to keep the $1.00 price for all their songs while the record industry wanted tiered pricing. Apparently Apple lost that negotiation in the end...not that you noticed.
For the other Apple related topics...
You know Pre did what they did for the publicity. Palm is not stupid.
Developers also know that Apple frequently breaks unofficial APIs. Even Palm devs. This hasn't changed for more than a decade.
Do you think it's better for the Pre to have it's compatibility broken earlier, or later when there is a huge install base?
Fixing a TIFF exploit that let users jailbreak (and maybe alternatively get a virus from a webpage) is a major hole. What did you expect them to do? Try to write around the jailbreak code to make sure it works?
Yes, Apple is overly controlling and I personally don't own anything Apple. They should have an API for syncing with iTunes etc. But at least try to keep your comments in perspective please. It doesn't help anyone. Thank you.
For example....MS could license it to developers so that DirectX is payed for in the game price. Make the license force them to compile the driver in with their program so people can't get it free. Bingo. Money. Even better, the none Windows games will still be cheaper so it will still be the larger market.
See? Think business like.
Thanks for the reply. I had to do some reading on nuclear accidents a few years ago, but the details have grown a bit fuzzy. Yeah, a grouped it under accident because that was where Wikipedia put it. A appreciate you pointing it out.
Every nuclear facility has probability of catastrophic accident. It is a positive number, usually written as "once every XXX years".
Yes, yes there is. Keep in mind I was talking about how much each accident sets progress back. Not how often they occur.
How 3 Mile Island turned out is unforgivable and was a public relations disaster. Babcock & Wilcox single-handedly stopped the development of nuclear power in the US. During a time when they needed to be at their best they screwed up.
It's not about good or bad intentions, so please stop trying to interpret it in that context.
Then outlaw corporations from doing things like public service announcements. I believe the last one I saw ended the announcement with "CBS Cares". Everything you said means nothing until then.
It's hard for people to judge things straight with propaganda like that.
Well it's been a few decades since the last "horrible" nuclear accident. The public may be getting ready to face the music and try it again. Looking at history, it looks like the Soviet Union had the worst luck with Nuclear power and accidents. [reference]. It seem like every time there has been a problem it has set back nuclear development by 10 years.
Actually, my point hidden underneath my message was that Apple with the iPhone seems to be strict with the apps much like Nintendo was with games for it's first console.
I'd like to add that, no, I don't believe these people are thinking for themselves (sloppily or not). I believe they are being "blinded by religion" as my topic title states. They don't want to be confronted by something they don't agree with which might make them think for themselves, so they outlaw it.
Religions are quite often warped for people to get it to say what they want it to say. On top of that, books like the bible even has a tendency to contradict itself (like things between the new and old testimate.) Warping would occur even without religion, usually through something popularly called propaganda. I'm sure you're familiar with it.
Republican are Christian. Republicans like War. Republican Christians kill people. Christians can't go to heaven for breaking commandment. So were they Christian to begin with?
Republicans hate hippies. Republicans are Christians. Jesus has a beard. Republicans hate Jesus. (The Christian church should do away with the bear already.)
I chose to update to Firefox 3.5, but I still wanted my IE8 as my default browser, but FF3.5 decided to take over the role. I wasn't asked, it just assumed. I don't see how this is any different. People you have to just stop bashing EVERYTHING Microsoft does. They do enough that is cause for alarm, but this just isn't one of them.
Seriously, I would bash Firefox if it did that to me too. I have never seen that happen though. Maybe you should submit a story so you can feel better?
Hey, SanityInAnarchy. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I do want to point out a few things.
So you're basically arguing in favor of security through obscurity, and against code reuse?
It can also be called homogeneousness with can cause security problems in general. On top of that, with all the features Webkit brings it also brings complexity in code... which inherently leads to more security flaws. As an example, many forums only allow bbcode instead of full-blown html.
In the end I think the features are probably worth it, though. While metacity themeing isn't hard per-say, it would still be much easier and more powerful with css. And as an ex-Firefox theme developer, I think the benefits way outweigh the drawbacks.
Looks like game developers have finally grown big enough to start considering building their own RIAA/MPAA. I just want to say thanks to the people who only buy games that they have heard of through commercials of or only buy sequels. I also want to thank the graphics whores who only support games that a mega company could afford to make. Without you guys, none of this would be possible. (This also counts for presidential elections etc...)
Have you looked at all the fonts available on a debian system? What are you making the assertion that there are only 5-6 from? Even assuming there are currently only 5-6, if web browsers get a standard way of implementing fonts:
- The number will grow - Fonts do not have an expiration date and go bad - Out of the pack of average more high quality fonts will eventually appear
Trust me. If websites can eventually do this functionality, communities/portals will be born around creating fonts.
There are of course opensource / creative commons fonts, those can be used, but if everyone is using them, that kind of defeats the whole point of changing the typeface.
That part didn't make sense to me. You make it sound like there are only 3-4 of them and that somehow this will be no better than the supposed 4-6 web-safe fonts we have now. Of course, you never know... It might turn out like the early 90s where all geocities sites were swiping imgs from the bigwigs because they had no real image editing programs then.
NONE OF WHICH ACTUALLY JUSTIFIES APPLE INTENTIONALLY, SPECIFICALLY, AND MALICIOUSLY PREVENTING THE PRE FROM SYNCING WITH ITUNES.
How is that tinfoil hat suiting you?
I generally agree with you. But it was a hack that allowed the Pre to be recognized as an iPod. If there is one thing that Apple is famous for, is breaking software that uses hacks and non-official APIs. Does anyone remember how VPC used tricks to get additional speed back in the old days, but because of it would break with practically every OS update?
The other issue is that this hack may have been exposing a vulnerability, much like the exploits used to jailbreak an iPhone. Nothing like having Tiff images exposing your system to viruses, eh? Not fixing them would be akin to not fixing a car lock that opens without a key because it's easier. And on top of that, if Apple did ignore the Pre and inadvertently breaks the connectivity anyway later on, who do you think consumers are going to blame with false expectations? It's better that they do this up front.
There are two people who generally post on slashdot Apple posts. Apple haters and Apple apple fanboys. My eye for more people in between. I swear, if I see another post saying that iTunes is DRMed, I'm going to start ignoring Apple stories on Slashdot...
The most interesting thing about slashdot is when I think I may be moderated funny, I get moderated insightful. When I think I am insightful, I am funny. When I think I am a troll, I am insightful. Such a confusing community we have here.
A Joomla! site I built, for example, all open source as it is, takes forever to render in Chrome, and shows CSS overlap errors in Firefox. IE 7 renders it perfectly.
It is 100% your fault if you chose a template that is crap. Joomla is what you make it. It is no different than if you got a contractor to design a website and they didn't w3c validate it and only checked it in IE7.
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But some developers are complaining that, possibly because the Android market started out with exclusively free apps, they are having trouble selling applications.
"Over the weekend I've had a few downloads for my $0.99 app, but I guess I was expecting more," wrote "stonedonkey" in the Android forum. "I'm curious if people just aren't willing to pay, if they are having issues, or there just aren't really that many phones in use?"
"I was wondering same myself," wrote another developer, "Sundog." "I certainly expected a game with a demo in the top ten and an installed base of over 50,000 to get more than a couple of dozen purchases over the weekend."
[Reference]
For some reason people feel better rooting for an underdog, even if it starts to show the same exact features as what what they hope it will replace such as tethering being banned People only hear what they want to hear.
"Brand awareness is a marketing concept that refers to a consumer knowing of a brand's existence; at aggregate (brand) level it refers to the proportion of consumers who know of the brand." [Reference] Most businesses put an extreme amount of weight into brand awareness...it is one of the very important foundations of the meaning of commercials. ...but they all could very well be wrong.
In Opera's case, users may not decide on it the first time. But the next time they see the icon, the more likely they are to try it out because they recognize it.
cheers
Makes me feel a sudden need to add a provisional law to cut down on the Chinese Robot Immigration....
Only true geniouses never try, mate. That way they can never fail. You're so busy trying to prove me wrong to think for yourself.
And Apple is getting lambasted sometimes for the wrong reasons just like MS now. Go figure.
I think it's important to put this in perspective- Apple eventually dropped their lock-in DRM from the iTMS (but not until more than a year after some of their competitors, like Amazon)
That is because they were fighting to keep the $1.00 price for all their songs while the record industry wanted tiered pricing. Apparently Apple lost that negotiation in the end...not that you noticed.
For the other Apple related topics...
Yes, Apple is overly controlling and I personally don't own anything Apple. They should have an API for syncing with iTunes etc. But at least try to keep your comments in perspective please. It doesn't help anyone. Thank you.
For example....MS could license it to developers so that DirectX is payed for in the game price. Make the license force them to compile the driver in with their program so people can't get it free. Bingo. Money. Even better, the none Windows games will still be cheaper so it will still be the larger market. See? Think business like.
Thanks for the reply. I had to do some reading on nuclear accidents a few years ago, but the details have grown a bit fuzzy. Yeah, a grouped it under accident because that was where Wikipedia put it. A appreciate you pointing it out.
Every nuclear facility has probability of catastrophic accident. It is a positive number, usually written as "once every XXX years".
Yes, yes there is. Keep in mind I was talking about how much each accident sets progress back. Not how often they occur.
How 3 Mile Island turned out is unforgivable and was a public relations disaster. Babcock & Wilcox single-handedly stopped the development of nuclear power in the US. During a time when they needed to be at their best they screwed up.
Microsoft is out to make money
And very well they could. I can see you are not a business man because you haven't seen it.
It's not about good or bad intentions, so please stop trying to interpret it in that context.
Then outlaw corporations from doing things like public service announcements. I believe the last one I saw ended the announcement with "CBS Cares". Everything you said means nothing until then.
It's hard for people to judge things straight with propaganda like that.
Well it's been a few decades since the last "horrible" nuclear accident. The public may be getting ready to face the music and try it again. Looking at history, it looks like the Soviet Union had the worst luck with Nuclear power and accidents. [reference]. It seem like every time there has been a problem it has set back nuclear development by 10 years.
Actually, my point hidden underneath my message was that Apple with the iPhone seems to be strict with the apps much like Nintendo was with games for it's first console.
Your comment was oddly insightful. Thank you. :D
Nintendo 2 on our hands! You know, from the NES days. Big N Loyalists unite...what were we talking about again?
I'd like to add that, no, I don't believe these people are thinking for themselves (sloppily or not). I believe they are being "blinded by religion" as my topic title states. They don't want to be confronted by something they don't agree with which might make them think for themselves, so they outlaw it.
Religions are quite often warped for people to get it to say what they want it to say. On top of that, books like the bible even has a tendency to contradict itself (like things between the new and old testimate.) Warping would occur even without religion, usually through something popularly called propaganda. I'm sure you're familiar with it.
Republican are Christian. Republicans like War. Republican Christians kill people. Christians can't go to heaven for breaking commandment. So were they Christian to begin with?
Republicans hate hippies. Republicans are Christians. Jesus has a beard. Republicans hate Jesus. (The Christian church should do away with the bear already.)
I chose to update to Firefox 3.5, but I still wanted my IE8 as my default browser, but FF3.5 decided to take over the role. I wasn't asked, it just assumed. I don't see how this is any different. People you have to just stop bashing EVERYTHING Microsoft does. They do enough that is cause for alarm, but this just isn't one of them.
Seriously, I would bash Firefox if it did that to me too. I have never seen that happen though. Maybe you should submit a story so you can feel better?
It's not that simple. A number of brands are rebranded other brands. Taiyo Yuden is usually considered the best of the best.
For example, HP discs used to be Taiyo Yuden. But they have switched to something else now.
Hey, SanityInAnarchy. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I do want to point out a few things.
So you're basically arguing in favor of security through obscurity, and against code reuse?
It can also be called homogeneousness with can cause security problems in general. On top of that, with all the features Webkit brings it also brings complexity in code... which inherently leads to more security flaws. As an example, many forums only allow bbcode instead of full-blown html.
In the end I think the features are probably worth it, though. While metacity themeing isn't hard per-say, it would still be much easier and more powerful with css. And as an ex-Firefox theme developer, I think the benefits way outweigh the drawbacks.
Looks like game developers have finally grown big enough to start considering building their own RIAA/MPAA. I just want to say thanks to the people who only buy games that they have heard of through commercials of or only buy sequels. I also want to thank the graphics whores who only support games that a mega company could afford to make. Without you guys, none of this would be possible. (This also counts for presidential elections etc...)
Have you looked at all the fonts available on a debian system? What are you making the assertion that there are only 5-6 from? Even assuming there are currently only 5-6, if web browsers get a standard way of implementing fonts:
- The number will grow
- Fonts do not have an expiration date and go bad
- Out of the pack of average more high quality fonts will eventually appear
Trust me. If websites can eventually do this functionality, communities/portals will be born around creating fonts.
There are of course opensource / creative commons fonts, those can be used, but if everyone is using them, that kind of defeats the whole point of changing the typeface.
That part didn't make sense to me. You make it sound like there are only 3-4 of them and that somehow this will be no better than the supposed 4-6 web-safe fonts we have now. Of course, you never know... It might turn out like the early 90s where all geocities sites were swiping imgs from the bigwigs because they had no real image editing programs then.
NONE OF WHICH ACTUALLY JUSTIFIES APPLE INTENTIONALLY, SPECIFICALLY, AND MALICIOUSLY PREVENTING THE PRE FROM SYNCING WITH ITUNES.
How is that tinfoil hat suiting you?
I generally agree with you. But it was a hack that allowed the Pre to be recognized as an iPod. If there is one thing that Apple is famous for, is breaking software that uses hacks and non-official APIs. Does anyone remember how VPC used tricks to get additional speed back in the old days, but because of it would break with practically every OS update?
The other issue is that this hack may have been exposing a vulnerability, much like the exploits used to jailbreak an iPhone. Nothing like having Tiff images exposing your system to viruses, eh? Not fixing them would be akin to not fixing a car lock that opens without a key because it's easier. And on top of that, if Apple did ignore the Pre and inadvertently breaks the connectivity anyway later on, who do you think consumers are going to blame with false expectations? It's better that they do this up front.
There are two people who generally post on slashdot Apple posts. Apple haters and Apple apple fanboys. My eye for more people in between. I swear, if I see another post saying that iTunes is DRMed, I'm going to start ignoring Apple stories on Slashdot...
The most interesting thing about slashdot is when I think I may be moderated funny, I get moderated insightful. When I think I am insightful, I am funny. When I think I am a troll, I am insightful. Such a confusing community we have here.
Where the hell is myslashdotstory.com!? So sad...so sad...
A Joomla! site I built, for example, all open source as it is, takes forever to render in Chrome, and shows CSS overlap errors in Firefox. IE 7 renders it perfectly.
It is 100% your fault if you chose a template that is crap. Joomla is what you make it. It is no different than if you got a contractor to design a website and they didn't w3c validate it and only checked it in IE7.