Because the original poster, who you were trying to "correct", was using waapuro, in which the Japanese spelling of "Wii" is correctly romanized "uii"!
Do you even have any idea what we are talking about any longer?
He said Wii is uii in romanji which really isn't write on many levels. From my side, it is still "wii" in waapuro, too. You're posts weren't any real help either.
I double checked waapuro romanization. It's claim to fame is its supposed to be closer to spoken Japanese. But "Uii" is actually farther. So why did you bring up waapuro?
That's nice, but you were still completely wrong about the romanization. Quibbling about the number of syllables is pretty silly when you mixed up "wa" and "u".
I see that you still can't see the between connection (wa)(i[small]) and syllables. Syllables are paramount to Japanese and understanding. Go to wikipedia's katakana page and notice wi is spelt exactly like I wrote it.
Do you even know what waapuro romanization is? Yes, I know it's three syllables in Hepburn, but once again, nobody uses Hepburn on the internet.
Are you talking about romanization or typing? Don't confuse the two as they are not the same thing. To get the special characters when typing, you don't even use the same keys on different OSes. There is nothing universal about it. There is no way to tell if "Ui" is (u)(i[small]) or (u)(i) without your OS context.
When you start playing with syllables like that, what is already a chaotic language that has many words with the same pronunciation just gets worse. Lets take komon and koumon for instance. They sound the same to most English speakers.
koumon:
back gate, school gate, Confucian school, anus, lock gate
komon:
ancient writing, adviser, fine pattern, common
Now we have komon:
back gate, school gate, Confucian school, anus, lock gate, ancient writing, adviser, fine pattern, common
Just because people write 1337 on the internet doesn't mean that is how it's spelled. But at least with 1337 you have a fighting chance to figure out what the original word was.
I'm going to take a guess that you were typing "Uii" on the keyboard and getting (u)([small]i)(i) to come out. The letters you type on a keyboard do not necessarily match up to romanization. You have to type special combinations to get some letters and it often differs between OSes what those letters are. You don't write "Uii" on homepages. You write (u)([small]i)(-) or Wii. "Uii" is a means to get (u)([small]i).
Your google links lead to (u)([small]i)(-), not "ui-" which goes directly against your point. The i is small. That means Wii is two syllables in Japanese. If you change the number of syllables in a Japanese word unlike English, it changes the word. It's that important. That's why you don't write it "Uii" in English letters. You may type "Uii" to get (u)([small]i)(-) on your OS.
If you want me to reference something, go to wikipedia's kana page. Look for "wi" on the katakana table. Notice how it matches up to (u)([small]i) on your google link.
Seriously, the examples you have shown so far are hallow and only show that you can input some Japanese text. It's not the same.
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I mean seriously. It can't possibly be that hard to fork and rebrand it. I'm sure distros wouldn't mind including it in their repositories.
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I'm going to go back and rewrite this part to clarify because of the below question.
I don't even know what you mean by "DS can be pronounced correctly in Japanese.". It's pronounced "(de)(small i)(-)(e)(su)", which certainly doesn't match the English pronunciation perfectly by any means.
I specifically pointed out the "D" part because there is the off chance of the Japanese pronouncing it "chi/g" because of their alphabet. The Japanese use a combination of (de)(small i) because there is no "di" letter native to the alphabet.
When you combine a Japanese letter and a small Japanese vowel letter, it combines into a single new pronunciation. (de)(small i) is equivalent to the English "di". The Japanese letter for "di" is actually pronounced "chi".
The esu, regardless of what you think is actually pretty close to the English pronunciation. The biggest problem is that they turn it into a two syllable sound. The u of (su) often becomes mostly silent in spoken Japanese which levitates the two syllable problem somewhat and makes it sound more english-like to boot.
Last I heard Japan had an ageing population. Does that mean that most Japanese find it hard to pronounce?
It's a mess of factors. Depending on the word it's different. For example a lot of Japanese-ified English words use an incorrect pronunciation which leaches into everything else.
howaito = white Specifically the "ho" part lingers as Japanese people never learn it's wrong
wa-ku = work...it sounds more like walk than work. it would be better if they wrote it waruku or wa-ruku.
Wii should actually be pretty easy for the Japanese to pronounce. The D in DS is a bit more difficult. The S would take their learned pronunciation of "esu" which isn't that far off from the English version. I really can't say how many people would pronounce DS wrong or how many of them think of themselves as pronouncing it wrong because I have never really gone around surveying it before.
If you don't under stand why when romanized uii is three sylable's instead of two, the conversation ends here. You haven't studied Japanese and we are talking on two totally different levels. Learn about syllables. I've been doing this stuff for 7 years.
I don't even know what you mean by "DS can be pronounced correctly in Japanese.". It's prounced "(de)(small i)(-)(e)(su)", which certainly doesn't match the English pronounciation perfectly by any means.
I was sleepy and only thought up to the "D". Notice how I wrote absolutely nothing about the "S". But if that makes you feel better...
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Wii is what you get after two layers of lossy translation between character sets. English -> Katakana -> Romanization of katakana We -> (wa)(i[small])(-) -> Wii
The Japanese do pronounce it "Wii". It's written that way because it's how the japanese people pronounce "we" and most closely fits how they think. It's not pronounced "Uii" because that would be a 3 syllable word instead of 2. Go study the Hepburn romanization system if you don't believe me.
DS can be pronounced correctly in Japanese. It requires a special letter combination like "wi" does. The only people who might have a problem with it are old people.
I think the PS3 will become the N64 of this generation. It will sell, but it will get no where near the penetration that the PS2 had. The PS2 basically had the weakest hardware of the last generation and yet has had incredible longevity. Ironically, Sony is saying that because the PS3 has the most powerful hardware it will last for 10 years...even though past experience shows the opposite may be true.
Hold on there slugger. That one-two punch you got there is a bit iffy. Not touching RealNetwork software for 10 years actually gives your arguments and opinions less weight. I would be starting to seriously question your opinions if you had said two years. But ten years in software time is a freaking eternity.
Why not just get hibernate to work well and do that?
I agree with the parent. In the end, playing with init too much is a bit like poking a beehive. I think it would be a lot easier to create a hibernate algorithm that calculates the ideal compression level to get the best hibernate performance. If you have a fast cpu and a slow hard drive, high compression is ideal. If you have a slow cpu and a fast hard drive, low compression is ideal.
If people are so worried about boot time and power saving, why don't they just use suspend? It uses practically no power and the power it does use likely offsets the power used when booting/shutting down constantly...but you don't have to wait.
Talk about false dichotomy.
It'd be like "Either I can rape my kids, or have no children". Guess what? There's a third, and very palatable answer. We'll let YOU figure that out, if you are mentally able.
I think the answer that you are insinuating is rape your spouse as that is most equivalent to the situation here. Now instead of falling into your false dichotomy, I think the correct answer is divorce and find a new wife...the equivalent of buying a game that doesn't force drm down your throat. There are a lot of good games that go ignored.
I know you meant it as a joke, but Capcom is still releasing new versions of Street Fighter 2. The latest is called called Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix.
Like the text input in this image. I just want to select all of the text by pressing ctrl-a. Usually I do this when I want to start over typing in the box without moving my hand to the mouse.
It's amazing how the little things can annoy someone when they switch programs/systems. I suppose a lot of it's just built up habits. Unless you come from something else, you just don't notice.
In Windows, for some reason "ctrl-a" does not work for text boxes. Its started to peeve me because I never remember until I try it and notice nothing happens. Because Windows people are brought up to right click everything, they never notice.
Could you provide an example scenario where it would be preferable to keep pure GUI applications running in the background when any way of interacting with that program is removed
When you close all of the windows, ram/cpu usage should become minimal. On top of that, I don't like waiting for Microsoft Office to load every time I open a document so it makes a shit load of sense.
I'm on the opposite side. I would kill to have some of that behavior on my linux box. It gives you slightly more fine grained control so you don't have to wait for office/firefox to start up every time.
On linux/windows I have to pay attention if the developer shoves stuff in the notification area. Since it is inconsistent it is a pain in the ass. Close a Rythmbox window, and it goes into the notification area. Close Limewire, and it goes into the notification area. If I remove the notification area from the gnome panel, I no longer have gui access to the program.
It's not like the applications with all of the windows closed use a truck load of memory when no windows are open. I really wish there weren't so many people trying to make everything more like Windows. There are already too many features made for Windows users that get in my way too often.
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Because the original poster, who you were trying to "correct", was using waapuro, in which the Japanese spelling of "Wii" is correctly romanized "uii"! Do you even have any idea what we are talking about any longer?
He said Wii is uii in romanji which really isn't write on many levels. From my side, it is still "wii" in waapuro, too. You're posts weren't any real help either.
Do you even know what waapuro romanization is?
I double checked waapuro romanization. It's claim to fame is its supposed to be closer to spoken Japanese. But "Uii" is actually farther. So why did you bring up waapuro?
That's nice, but you were still completely wrong about the romanization. Quibbling about the number of syllables is pretty silly when you mixed up "wa" and "u".
I see that you still can't see the between connection (wa)(i[small]) and syllables. Syllables are paramount to Japanese and understanding. Go to wikipedia's katakana page and notice wi is spelt exactly like I wrote it.
Do you even know what waapuro romanization is? Yes, I know it's three syllables in Hepburn, but once again, nobody uses Hepburn on the internet.
Are you talking about romanization or typing? Don't confuse the two as they are not the same thing. To get the special characters when typing, you don't even use the same keys on different OSes. There is nothing universal about it. There is no way to tell if "Ui" is (u)(i[small]) or (u)(i) without your OS context.
When you start playing with syllables like that, what is already a chaotic language that has many words with the same pronunciation just gets worse. Lets take komon and koumon for instance. They sound the same to most English speakers.
koumon:
komon:
Now we have komon:
Just because people write 1337 on the internet doesn't mean that is how it's spelled. But at least with 1337 you have a fighting chance to figure out what the original word was.
I'm going to take a guess that you were typing "Uii" on the keyboard and getting (u)([small]i)(i) to come out. The letters you type on a keyboard do not necessarily match up to romanization. You have to type special combinations to get some letters and it often differs between OSes what those letters are. You don't write "Uii" on homepages. You write (u)([small]i)(-) or Wii. "Uii" is a means to get (u)([small]i).
Your google links lead to (u)([small]i)(-), not "ui-" which goes directly against your point. The i is small. That means Wii is two syllables in Japanese. If you change the number of syllables in a Japanese word unlike English, it changes the word. It's that important. That's why you don't write it "Uii" in English letters. You may type "Uii" to get (u)([small]i)(-) on your OS.
If you want me to reference something, go to wikipedia's kana page. Look for "wi" on the katakana table. Notice how it matches up to (u)([small]i) on your google link.
Seriously, the examples you have shown so far are hallow and only show that you can input some Japanese text. It's not the same.
desu is basically equivalent to "is" in English.
I mean seriously. It can't possibly be that hard to fork and rebrand it. I'm sure distros wouldn't mind including it in their repositories.
I'm going to go back and rewrite this part to clarify because of the below question.
I don't even know what you mean by "DS can be pronounced correctly in Japanese.". It's pronounced "(de)(small i)(-)(e)(su)", which certainly doesn't match the English pronunciation perfectly by any means.
I specifically pointed out the "D" part because there is the off chance of the Japanese pronouncing it "chi/g" because of their alphabet. The Japanese use a combination of (de)(small i) because there is no "di" letter native to the alphabet.
When you combine a Japanese letter and a small Japanese vowel letter, it combines into a single new pronunciation. (de)(small i) is equivalent to the English "di". The Japanese letter for "di" is actually pronounced "chi".
The esu, regardless of what you think is actually pretty close to the English pronunciation. The biggest problem is that they turn it into a two syllable sound. The u of (su) often becomes mostly silent in spoken Japanese which levitates the two syllable problem somewhat and makes it sound more english-like to boot.
Last I heard Japan had an ageing population. Does that mean that most Japanese find it hard to pronounce?
It's a mess of factors. Depending on the word it's different. For example a lot of Japanese-ified English words use an incorrect pronunciation which leaches into everything else.
howaito = white
Specifically the "ho" part lingers as Japanese people never learn it's wrong
wa-ku = work ...it sounds more like walk than work. it would be better if they wrote it waruku or wa-ruku.
Wii should actually be pretty easy for the Japanese to pronounce. The D in DS is a bit more difficult. The S would take their learned pronunciation of "esu" which isn't that far off from the English version. I really can't say how many people would pronounce DS wrong or how many of them think of themselves as pronouncing it wrong because I have never really gone around surveying it before.
"(wa)(small i)(-)" is not a letter combination that is ever used except by people trying to be cute when spelling "wai".
Why does inputing (wa)(small i)(-) on a Japanese keyboard and then pressing space bring up "Wii" but (u)(i)(i) doesn't?
I don't even know what you mean by "DS can be pronounced correctly in Japanese.". It's prounced "(de)(small i)(-)(e)(su)", which certainly doesn't match the English pronounciation perfectly by any means.
I was sleepy and only thought up to the "D". Notice how I wrote absolutely nothing about the "S". But if that makes you feel better...
Wii is what you get after two layers of lossy translation between character sets.
English -> Katakana -> Romanization of katakana
We -> (wa)(i[small])(-) -> Wii
The Japanese do pronounce it "Wii". It's written that way because it's how the japanese people pronounce "we" and most closely fits how they think. It's not pronounced "Uii" because that would be a 3 syllable word instead of 2. Go study the Hepburn romanization system if you don't believe me.
DS can be pronounced correctly in Japanese. It requires a special letter combination like "wi" does. The only people who might have a problem with it are old people.
I think the PS3 will become the N64 of this generation. It will sell, but it will get no where near the penetration that the PS2 had. The PS2 basically had the weakest hardware of the last generation and yet has had incredible longevity. Ironically, Sony is saying that because the PS3 has the most powerful hardware it will last for 10 years...even though past experience shows the opposite may be true.
Hold on there slugger. That one-two punch you got there is a bit iffy. Not touching RealNetwork software for 10 years actually gives your arguments and opinions less weight. I would be starting to seriously question your opinions if you had said two years. But ten years in software time is a freaking eternity.
Why not just get hibernate to work well and do that?
I agree with the parent. In the end, playing with init too much is a bit like poking a beehive. I think it would be a lot easier to create a hibernate algorithm that calculates the ideal compression level to get the best hibernate performance. If you have a fast cpu and a slow hard drive, high compression is ideal. If you have a slow cpu and a fast hard drive, low compression is ideal.
If people are so worried about boot time and power saving, why don't they just use suspend? It uses practically no power and the power it does use likely offsets the power used when booting/shutting down constantly...but you don't have to wait.
Some people hibernate their computers at night.
Talk about false dichotomy. It'd be like "Either I can rape my kids, or have no children". Guess what? There's a third, and very palatable answer. We'll let YOU figure that out, if you are mentally able.
I think the answer that you are insinuating is rape your spouse as that is most equivalent to the situation here. Now instead of falling into your false dichotomy, I think the correct answer is divorce and find a new wife...the equivalent of buying a game that doesn't force drm down your throat. There are a lot of good games that go ignored.
At least "delete" actually deletes somethings on modern Apples, as opposed to inserting that checkerboard character like it did on the Apple //es.
You mean inserting the delete character? It's a damn hard to display character, so I am impressed by the checkerboard interpretation. ;-)
I know you meant it as a joke, but Capcom is still releasing new versions of Street Fighter 2. The latest is called called Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix.
Hegemonies of indolence should be met with hegemonies of insolence! Or something like that.
Like the text input in this image. I just want to select all of the text by pressing ctrl-a. Usually I do this when I want to start over typing in the box without moving my hand to the mouse.
It's amazing how the little things can annoy someone when they switch programs/systems. I suppose a lot of it's just built up habits. Unless you come from something else, you just don't notice.
In Windows, for some reason "ctrl-a" does not work for text boxes. Its started to peeve me because I never remember until I try it and notice nothing happens. Because Windows people are brought up to right click everything, they never notice.
Could you provide an example scenario where it would be preferable to keep pure GUI applications running in the background when any way of interacting with that program is removed
When you close all of the windows, ram/cpu usage should become minimal. On top of that, I don't like waiting for Microsoft Office to load every time I open a document so it makes a shit load of sense.
I'm on the opposite side. I would kill to have some of that behavior on my linux box. It gives you slightly more fine grained control so you don't have to wait for office/firefox to start up every time.
On linux/windows I have to pay attention if the developer shoves stuff in the notification area. Since it is inconsistent it is a pain in the ass. Close a Rythmbox window, and it goes into the notification area. Close Limewire, and it goes into the notification area. If I remove the notification area from the gnome panel, I no longer have gui access to the program.
It's not like the applications with all of the windows closed use a truck load of memory when no windows are open. I really wish there weren't so many people trying to make everything more like Windows. There are already too many features made for Windows users that get in my way too often.
Welcome! It's good to hear people finding it useful.
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