What makes you think that there will not be thousands of factories in China pumping out DVD players (and DVD drives for computers) and SD TVs for years to come?
Uhm, well the alternative is to contact every copyright holder individually to get permission to read their books before scanning it.
You shouldn't need to ask for permission to read/quote books just because it's a machine that does the reading/quoting.
Google isn't redistributing the scanned pages, they abide by the normal rules of copyright, so they shouldn't need to go around asking for permission.
I think this is yet another case of copyright being outdated, clearly what Google is doing is entirely fine because they are not ripping off the copyright holders.
Dude, didn't you read the comments they we are talking 2700000 Watts for a 5 minute charge, even if you have 8 hours to charge your car it's still 337000 Watts.
If you charge the car on 3 phases of 400 volts then you still need to pull 280A on each phase, for 8 hours, the largest plugs I've seen were rated at 127A.
Multiply that by a normal appartment building and the current copper prices will seem like a bargin once the current infrastructure has melted away and needs to be replaced.
There is very little that can replace oil and ICE for power density and even safety.
The only problem I can see is that most people aren't interested enough in entertainment that they have the attention span to pledge money for something that will get made 6 months down the road.
I certainly doubt that "days of our lives" could survive like that, but then again drek would get made anyway to deliver the eyeballs of the passive consumers to the advertisers.
You wouldn't need to work on a stop-and-go basis, an artist who consistently makes good work might be able to get larger investors to put up the bulk of the capital up front, so production can start before enough real customers have signed up.
That's almost 100% like current situation, the only difference is that the investors/labels move on to the next project as soon as the product is released.
Who's to say that such a model wouldn't work if it hasn't been tried?
The rational consumer is a defective myth, people regularly pay for things they can have for free, just ask Evian.
FSF still sell copies of emacs, although it exists on just about every ftp server in the world.
The rational consumer argument breaks down quite quickly when you aren't dealing with super-huge commodities markets where the consumers and producers take great care to be dispassionate about the commodities they trade.
If history has shown anything then it's that: 1) You don't start a landwar against russia in the winter. 2) Consumers aren't rational.
Dude, update yoru worldview, most state owned companies have been sold off to private investors in the last 10 years.
The two biggest examples are the railways and the telephone company, but there are many more.
The Danish Radio (think: BBC), the hospitals and educational system are still run by the state, but to great benefit for all so that's not likely to change.
I'm from Denmark and I really don't think there is anything sissy about having the state protect citizens from cooperations.
In fact I think it's an important part of protecting freedom of the citizens, just look how badly the US is doing in the freedom department (people getting stomped by cooperations in courts, MPAA/RIAA buying laws like DMCA, software patents, DRM).
I realize that freedom is out of fashion in the US right now, so protecting freedom might be a lost argument on the bootlicking sheep who seem to accept any restrictions placed on them by their cooperate or government overlords.
I guess it's not something related to playing music and that's why I havn't had any need for it.
You give the average consumer way too little credit, vast numbers of consumers don't give a crap about support, they will happily run pirated versions of everything from windows to photoshop.
I certainly don't detest windows users, in fact some of my best friends use windows.
I think that the part of the community that's hostile to newcomers are the ones who have just switched themselves, as people gain more experience and the newness wears off they tend to become more mellow and helpfull.
As there is a huge influx of Linux users there is bound to be a large amount of "born again"(tm) people, please don't think they speak for everyone.
You are quite right that ISVs are not likely to support Linux because of the lack of market share, but in the end that doesn't matter much, most classes of software have passable if not better free counterparts on Linux already.
Games are more or less a lost cause, OS is simply not a good way to produce games, so those will not arrive for a long time.
You are also correct that Linux people aren't in the habit of paying for software, but nobody else is eiter, except for Businesses and people who don't have broadband.
Luckily software that businesses need is almost universally available for Linux and most of the rest is built specificly for the company so building it for Linux is no more expensive than building it for windows.
You cannot base anything of importance on a binary blob, that's why it's vitally important that all infrastructure is built in OSS and that's why Linux people shy away from binaries.
The loss of vendor support for a game is no big loss, so binary only games can be tolerated, but binary-only drivers and business software cannot.
As I see it you were the one who wanted to split hairs on the meaning of "support".
What functionality does the ipod have that I cannot use from Linux?
Saying that no hardware manufacturer wants to have anything to do with Linux is a bit of a stretch, there is no OS in the world that works with as many different pieces of hardware as Linux and on as many platforms.
Millions of people use Linux daily, possibly not as many as windows, but certainly not nobody.
I can certainly agree that it would be nice to have Apple (or any company) support Linux as much as they support windows.
I mean this quite clearly shows that putting XP on a formerly nice laptop subtracts 1180 USD from the value of said laptop.
I wonder if this is really the message that MS want's people to get.... the more cynical of us would probably just say that Lenovo is doing this to be able to point to the failed experiment and say "see noone wants Linux on a thinkpad", now piss off you Linux running Thinkpad customers, you don't exist!.
When I switched to Linux back in the past century, it was nowhere nearly as nice and polished as it is now and I went from 100% NT fan boi to 100% Free Software in a couple of months.
I set up my machine to dual boot, but in the end I think I booted windows less than 10 times after I installed Linux and after a year of disuse I nuked NT.
Granted, I've never been a big gamer so that made the switch easy, but just about every single application I used on windows had an equivalent or better replacement on Linux.
What was even more impressive was the huge amount of exelent documentation that was available, compared to almost nothing on windows.
I guess my needs were simply better suited for Linux that most peoples, because for me switching was not only easy, but downright pleasant.
Dude, why do you have to redefine what support means yourself.
Windows doesn't support ipod, at all.
Apple supports the ipod on windows and mac, that's it.
Now Linux does support the ipod and it does so quite nicely, perhaps even better than Apple does on windows and mac.... and if you are not "open-source people" yourself then what are you doing here other than astroturfing?
I built macrovision defeating electronics way back when I was still a minor, as I'm now 30 that should put a date on how long ago macrovision was broken.
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What makes you think that there will not be thousands of factories in China pumping out DVD players (and DVD drives for computers) and SD TVs for years to come?
Well, I'll buy both, as soon as there is an Open source player that works on Linux.
Well it's better than the alternative...
Uhm, well the alternative is to contact every copyright holder individually to get permission to read their books before scanning it.
You shouldn't need to ask for permission to read/quote books just because it's a machine that does the reading/quoting.
Google isn't redistributing the scanned pages, they abide by the normal rules of copyright, so they shouldn't need to go around asking for permission.
I think this is yet another case of copyright being outdated, clearly what Google is doing is entirely fine because they are not ripping off the copyright holders.
Are you saying that 13A*230V = 2990000W?
I think you are off by around 1000.
You can pull about 3kW on a normal outlet.
Dude, didn't you read the comments they we are talking 2700000 Watts for a 5 minute charge, even if you have 8 hours to charge your car it's still 337000 Watts.
If you charge the car on 3 phases of 400 volts then you still need to pull 280A on each phase, for 8 hours, the largest plugs I've seen were rated at 127A.
Multiply that by a normal appartment building and the current copper prices will seem like a bargin once the current infrastructure has melted away and needs to be replaced.
There is very little that can replace oil and ICE for power density and even safety.
Uhm, that's fucked up right there.
Did they take the pictures or what?
You know what, there are simple, cheap technical methods to do what the papers want, that alone should buy them a big fat cup of STFU from the courts.
If you don't want people to get your content, don't give it to them.
If you do give people your content, then accept that it's going to be used like everything else published on the web.
I agree with you fully.
PHP is trainwreck built ontop of a thousand nasty hacks and halfbaked ideas.
PHP+MySQL are the VB+Access of the Open Source world and just like on windows there are nutters who keep using it for real work.
PHP (along with MySQL, VB and Access) should be sealed in concrete and dumped at sea.
Well, without IE users there might be fewer astroturfers:)
How?
The picture quality is lower at the theater, even DLP/LCOS do better than film.
The audience is worse (kids with cellphones)...
The seats are worse.
The price is insane.
I just don't see how a movie theater can possibly be better than a home theater...
Who cares what the big manufacturers do?
Small companies who want your money will always be making non-drm playing devices.
Just look at Ogg Vorbis, none of the big manufacturers support it but all the small no-name players do.
If the big companies stop playing non-drmed content then we would just buy the non-broken ones.
Why do you feel that this wouldn't work?
The only problem I can see is that most people aren't interested enough in entertainment that they have the attention span to pledge money for something that will get made 6 months down the road.
I certainly doubt that "days of our lives" could survive like that, but then again drek would get made anyway to deliver the eyeballs of the passive consumers to the advertisers.
You wouldn't need to work on a stop-and-go basis, an artist who consistently makes good work might be able to get larger investors to put up the bulk of the capital up front, so production can start before enough real customers have signed up.
That's almost 100% like current situation, the only difference is that the investors/labels move on to the next project as soon as the product is released.
Who's to say that such a model wouldn't work if it hasn't been tried?
The rational consumer is a defective myth, people regularly pay for things they can have for free, just ask Evian.
FSF still sell copies of emacs, although it exists on just about every ftp server in the world.
The rational consumer argument breaks down quite quickly when you aren't dealing with super-huge commodities markets where the consumers and producers take great care to be dispassionate about the commodities they trade.
If history has shown anything then it's that:
1) You don't start a landwar against russia in the winter.
2) Consumers aren't rational.
And I'm not sure about #1.
Dude, update yoru worldview, most state owned companies have been sold off to private investors in the last 10 years.
The two biggest examples are the railways and the telephone company, but there are many more.
The Danish Radio (think: BBC), the hospitals and educational system are still run by the state, but to great benefit for all so that's not likely to change.
I did notice the "tounge in cheek", I guess I should have been more explicit about that:)
Still, it is nice to have a government that sticks up for the little guy and that's not something I'd call sissy:)
I'm from Denmark and I really don't think there is anything sissy about having the state protect citizens from cooperations.
In fact I think it's an important part of protecting freedom of the citizens, just look how badly the US is doing in the freedom department (people getting stomped by cooperations in courts, MPAA/RIAA buying laws like DMCA, software patents, DRM).
I realize that freedom is out of fashion in the US right now, so protecting freedom might be a lost argument on the bootlicking sheep who seem to accept any restrictions placed on them by their cooperate or government overlords.
You are wrong HDCP is the DRM that can encumber DVI links, it has nothing to do with the silvery disks.
Bluray and HDDVD are encumbered with AACS, Bluray has B+ as in addition to straight AACS.
To put it another way; HDCP is to DVI as Macrovision is to composite and AACS is to HDDVD as CSS is to DVD.
iTMS, huh?
I guess it's not something related to playing music and that's why I havn't had any need for it.
You give the average consumer way too little credit, vast numbers of consumers don't give a crap about support, they will happily run pirated versions of everything from windows to photoshop.
I certainly don't detest windows users, in fact some of my best friends use windows.
I think that the part of the community that's hostile to newcomers are the ones who have just switched themselves, as people gain more experience and the newness wears off they tend to become more mellow and helpfull.
As there is a huge influx of Linux users there is bound to be a large amount of "born again"(tm) people, please don't think they speak for everyone.
You are quite right that ISVs are not likely to support Linux because of the lack of market share, but in the end that doesn't matter much, most classes of software have passable if not better free counterparts on Linux already.
Games are more or less a lost cause, OS is simply not a good way to produce games, so those will not arrive for a long time.
You are also correct that Linux people aren't in the habit of paying for software, but nobody else is eiter, except for Businesses and people who don't have broadband.
Luckily software that businesses need is almost universally available for Linux and most of the rest is built specificly for the company so building it for Linux is no more expensive than building it for windows.
You cannot base anything of importance on a binary blob, that's why it's vitally important that all infrastructure is built in OSS and that's why Linux people shy away from binaries.
The loss of vendor support for a game is no big loss, so binary only games can be tolerated, but binary-only drivers and business software cannot.
As I see it you were the one who wanted to split hairs on the meaning of "support".
What functionality does the ipod have that I cannot use from Linux?
Saying that no hardware manufacturer wants to have anything to do with Linux is a bit of a stretch, there is no OS in the world that works with as many different pieces of hardware as Linux and on as many platforms.
Millions of people use Linux daily, possibly not as many as windows, but certainly not nobody.
I can certainly agree that it would be nice to have Apple (or any company) support Linux as much as they support windows.
Well, that certainly puts XP in its place.
... the more cynical of us would probably just say that Lenovo is doing this to be able to point to the failed experiment and say "see noone wants Linux on a thinkpad", now piss off you Linux running Thinkpad customers, you don't exist!.
I mean this quite clearly shows that putting XP on a formerly nice laptop subtracts 1180 USD from the value of said laptop.
I wonder if this is really the message that MS want's people to get.
When I switched to Linux back in the past century, it was nowhere nearly as nice and polished as it is now and I went from 100% NT fan boi to 100% Free Software in a couple of months.
I set up my machine to dual boot, but in the end I think I booted windows less than 10 times after I installed Linux and after a year of disuse I nuked NT.
Granted, I've never been a big gamer so that made the switch easy, but just about every single application I used on windows had an equivalent or better replacement on Linux.
What was even more impressive was the huge amount of exelent documentation that was available, compared to almost nothing on windows.
I guess my needs were simply better suited for Linux that most peoples, because for me switching was not only easy, but downright pleasant.
Dude, why do you have to redefine what support means yourself.
... and if you are not "open-source people" yourself then what are you doing here other than astroturfing?
Windows doesn't support ipod, at all.
Apple supports the ipod on windows and mac, that's it.
Now Linux does support the ipod and it does so quite nicely, perhaps even better than Apple does on windows and mac.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
The whole mp3 craze exsits *because* there is no DRM on those files and because they are easy to share.
It doesn't matter what itunes or any other drm encumbered offering does, it's still just a tiny part of the whole music-as-files world.
I built macrovision defeating electronics way back when I was still a minor, as I'm now 30 that should put a date on how long ago macrovision was broken.