One time Ultima 7 pissed me off (seeked to the disk too much) and I had too much RAM (32MB back then) so I loaded into a ~17MB compressed RAM drive, and then I didn't have to listen to it access the disk anymore. RAM drives are cool.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
So that's that the "Embedix Browser" looks like...
It scares me that this machine is more powerful than my old P133. Man, did it suck before X had decent Mach64 support, and I could only run it in 320x200. I guess that's something like this PDA will be, except without a real keyboard...
It entertains me that Microsoft had to make an entire new OS to do this, whereas Linux had an ARM port, and can be stripped down sufficiently without creating a new API.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
That looks really cool, with the web browser and the integrated video. It also apparently does e-mail and plays mp3s and whatnot, but I'd still want an xterm mode.:)
Anyhow, here's the picture with the specs. It's got a 200Mhz ARM chip (probably for low power consumption) and 32MB RAM. Anyone have more info on this? --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Good call. There used to be big flamewars back when people knew or cared about the licensing. (but now that issues is even stranger, but people are satisfied regardless...)
I'll be very interested to see what the next releases of GNOME and KDE look like, they both sound very cool.
But I probably won't use them, because I still don't know why a "Desktop Environment / Application Suite / Thingy" could possibly be better than an xterm, or why I'd want a window manager other than my particularly boring fvwm2 configuration.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Tab completion is still easier, actually, you can use Tab more than once...
(so Q might get you "Queen - ", while F might get you the rest... ("Fat Bottomed Girls" or something))
And yes, file managers are easier sometimes too, which is why people write ncurses interfaces to mp3 players!;)
Incidentally, my favorite audio player of any sort was Cubic, now OpenCP. I'm still waiting for the "Cubic Team" (or whoever is working on it now) to port it to Linux, because it's just that cool.
The text filemanager would detect what kind of songs the different files were, (it played mods mostly, but they added support for MIDI, WAV, MP3...) and it had graphical display modes for playing the music... It was NEET.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
SGI has just gotten cooler and cooler. They *really* donate code to the cause, as opposed to Sun, which just claims to do so... (but with strings attached)
And failover is really handy. You never know when you're going to have hardware die on you. Of course, it's much more important when you're working with a bunch of NT boxes, but...;)
Established vendors with real operating systems switching to Linux instead for production-level systems, and improving it, and giving back to the community. Does it get any better? --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Sure you can do it through the command line. I've thought about messing with it, but I'm happy using a "misc" directory, playing random songs, and skipping the ones I don't like.
Some more complex approaches would involve categorizing the songs. Either you could make "playlists" for them (flat text files with the song names in them) and choose songs out of that (easy), or you could make directories for the categories, and symlink back to the songs, (easy, this time in the filesystem instead) or you could make a "database" with fortune or whatever, or...
Basically, there's no limit to the number and variety of command-line solutions you could use, if you but tried it. It's just as easy as making a playlist any other way.
Simple Playlist Example:
ls * > playlist (put file names in playlist)
pico playlist
(delete whatever lines you don't like, it consists of ^K and some UP/DOWN arrow key movement... or use your favorite editor, whatever.)
mpg123 -z `cat playlist`
(play playlist)
Queen Example:
mpg123 -z Queen*
No, you can't "click". Boo hoo. Can you type? Why is typing so "jarring"? Don't you like text-based file managers?
Anyhow, there are enough graphical mp3 players out there, (mostly based around mpg123 if they're any good;) so feel free to play your songs however you like. Just don't bash$ the command line.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Uh oh, it's that time again. Night time, when the trolls lurk.
So I load up slashdot, and it said it was generated by a "Group of Stealth Ninjas" just for me. Well, that scared the hell out of me, so I reloaded it. Then it was generated by a "Cadre of Psycho Ninjas". Oh man.
So I went to this story, where it's safe, right? No! More ninjas! They're everywhere!
...and now I feel like some pancakes. Mmm.
So what's the moral of the story? Ninja thread here, if you like them. I think they should be tagged "Ninja Troll", and get points for that (bottom out at -1 for normal people, but...).
Then we can "Sort By Lowest Score", and have the scale be from -5..1, with the best trolls at the top! (Ninja Troll, Hot Grits Troll, Portman Troll, Open Source Troll, etc., etc.)
Anything higher would of course be "Above your current threshold".:)
Therefore, moderate the parent down! I suggest a (Score:-3, Ninja Troll, Portman Troll, Patent Troll) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Actually, Deep Thought would detect that you were 30 links away from a porn site, and kill your browser.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
I never said I'd want people bound to one API. I'd just want to support the five or so common ones. I was suggesting the second approach, of the "doomed to failure from the start" variety.
Actually, I'd want the different bindings/APIs on top, and a generic graphics layer below that knows how to make widgets, and rely on the "themes" (just data for the graphics layer) to get the look and feel right. Of course, I'm not qualified to do this, but the design *idea* seems simple enough. You'd just need to know way too much about X programming and widgets to start on it. --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
A standard widget set used across applications on Linux.
You're never going to get that.
But it is a problem, so here's the way I've always said it could be implemented:
Make a library that has the requisite function calls (call them widget bindings or whatever) for each widget set. It then uses them to draw the application. It draws the application by checking to see what "theme" you have set up, and using those widgets to draw it. Common themes would of course be "Motif", "Xaw3d", "GTK", "Qt", "W1ND0WZ", or whatever your little heart desires.
Think of this as a widget API thunking layer. This project would of course be a lot of work, but the payoffs would be just as great.
And you'd want to build everything on your system with this, and have it dynamically linked. (You'd want them static either until it becomes standard, or if you're building a stand-alone app and don't trust library versions)
Then everything would look the same, (or different, if you gave different apps different themes--use X resources or something for that) there would still be many APIs to call, (pick your favorite, the user won't know the difference... mixing and matching might be bad, though) but you wouldn't have to include the whole GUI in your app (unless you're paranoid). Oh, and I'm talking about visual appearances. Standardizing layouts for users would be nice too, but let's ponder that some other time, ok?:)
Oh wow, that's awesome! I used Calmira under Win 3.1 for a long time, and I really liked it. (when I had to use Windows, that is:) I've tried to run it under wine before, but it's never worked until now!
Here's a screenshot for you, with all my old icons, running "Slide Show" (my screensaver at the time) in the background, and showing the nasty Wine errors in an xterm...
I must admit, the icons on the desktop and management that Calmira provided at the time were sweet. It clashes with my windowmanager, though. (I'd have to not bind the mouse buttons, at least, to use Calmira's menus, unless anyone knows a way around this?) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Um, no, I see his point, and when he said something about JWZ being a karma whore on a higher plane, I don't think he was talking about posting to slashdot.
Regardless, JWZ does too have a slashdot account, and he does post occasionally, when something interests him. I think we all understand if he doesn't post much now.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
First, let me point out that his page looks just fine in w3m, and it doesn't load the images, either.
Second, JWZ wrote his web page so it would have a certain consistent look in the current web browsers being used today. Some people don't even do that much. And this is just a splash page. Everything after that is mostly text and tables.
Third, once you realize his goals, you complain that he's going about it all wrong. So please, explain to me how in HTML you'd fix this. How do I get the cool big blinking green terminal font instead of using images?
Don't complain about JWZ, complain about the W3C instead. JWZ has tried to implement what they and Netscape want, and he ultimately left out of disgust. Also, I'm sure he could write better code for anything from terminals to X-terminals than we could unless we had a lot of practice. If he strikes you as arrogant, fine, but *I* sure couldn't write a VCR labeler in raw PostScript. But he's definitely not clueless.
Also, turning text into images is interesting, just like turning images into text is interesting. And annoying splash pages are pretty funny, as long as you take them at face value, and link to the content instead... --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Thanks, that fact escaped me, too! (I just submitted my question there)
I guess this begs the question: why do we even put Announcements on here as stories, with comments?
It looks like these announcements contain useful information, so I don't want to filter them, but the comments will probably be necessarily duller. (Even taking into account the current sorry state of slashdot...) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
It's about time we saw a *sane* legal ruling about the internet and their domains.
(If I see *one* more "illegal to link to my content" website, I'm gonna scream, and then make a page that <A HREF="">'s all of the popular sites on the internet...) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Ah yes, there is a Perl for Windows, and many other platforms... But did you catch the numerological significance of my post?
Oh well, nevermind guys. Here's a hint: I was going for "Funny" rather than "Flamebait", and I didn't mean to post at 2 anyhow, (was using Lynx, somehow missed that checkbox though) but I guess I'll start putting "HUMOR:" back into the subject line. That usually helps.
For some real opinion, I think Slashdot should use something fast instead of Perl. However, I'm impressed that they manage to make so much stuff static, and make the rest of the code pretty fast regardless, so maybe they can handle it.
And I've seen Slashdot unusable under load, and not from network bandwidth. Ping times are very fast, response times from the web server are very slow. Go figure. --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Actually, there's a reason for that. Did you read the comment contained within? He's got a point, as usual...
<!-- Greetings, Lynx users. There is a reason this page doesn't use ALT tags on the images. The reason is that the bozos responsible for both MSIE and Netscape Confusicator 4.0 decided that they would display the ALT tags of images every time you move the mouse over them -- even if the images are loaded, and even if they are not links. The ALT attribute to the IMG tag is supposed to be used *instead of* the image, not *in addition to* the image.
This looks absolutely terrible, so I don't use ALT tags any more in self-defense.
If they wanted to implemented tooltips, they should have used the TITLE attribute to the A tag. That's in the HTML 1.2 spec and everything.
I had to decide between making this page look good for the vast majority of viewers, or making it be readable by the miniscule minority of you stuck in the 70s. Those of you in the retro contingent lost. Sorry. --> --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
What's your favorite hack, and which of your hacks are you the most proud of?
Everyone knows about xdaliclock ("morphing before morphing was cool"), and lately xscreensaver has gotten pretty decent too... (surpassing xlock in the number of supported nifty screensavers) One of my favorites is probably dadadodo, ("the Katz generator", for me...:) but it could use some work. (maybe I'll work on it someday)
Also, how's the nightclub stuff going? A welcome break from the fast-paced world of netscape development and net.stardom? --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Actually, "upgrading" from Solaris 2.51 to 2.6 broke a lot of stuff here. Proprietary software, free software, you name it, it's not happy.
For whatever reason, building on later machines as well is a good idea, because some people have problems. Some distributions don't have the glibc2.0 support. (and I've seen commercial software with A.OUT / "Z-MAGIC" Linux binaries, still in use, so...)
Eventually these huge companies will have to run builds on some newer machines, so why not bite the bullet? I think they can handle it. If something breaks, they'll have to fix it eventually, anyhow. --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Actually, looking at his posting history, I have a feeling that Scooby's *default score* might be -2 by now.
That's actually really cool. We need a "Use -1 Bonus" for that feature, though, guys.;)
And the *original* post in this thread was *really* funny. Especially that "W2K" bit. ROFL! Why is it only at (Score:4, Funny)? Moderate it up to 6!
(I don't care if it's the press release, that's all The Onion ever does, and that's really funny too. Why? Because it's well done!)
Also, moderate the entire story down to (Score 0: Redundant). Like many other people, I'll believe the "MS-Office for Linux" hype when I see it....And I have a feeling that Corel/The Wine Project will do it before Microsoft does, since Microsoft uses crappy proprietary porting tools (which they also own now, woo-boo-hoo.) like MainWin or whatever. --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Slashdot Mirror
Well... then you know your pages are cached!
:)
One time Ultima 7 pissed me off (seeked to the disk too much) and I had too much RAM (32MB back then) so I loaded into a ~17MB compressed RAM drive, and then I didn't have to listen to it access the disk anymore. RAM drives are cool.
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Neat, thanks!
:)
So that's that the "Embedix Browser" looks like...
It scares me that this machine is more powerful than my old P133. Man, did it suck before X had decent Mach64 support, and I could only run it in 320x200. I guess that's something like this PDA will be, except without a real keyboard...
It entertains me that Microsoft had to make an entire new OS to do this, whereas Linux had an ARM port, and can be stripped down sufficiently without creating a new API.
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That looks really cool, with the web browser and the integrated video. It also apparently does e-mail and plays mp3s and whatnot, but I'd still want an xterm mode. :)
Anyhow, here's the picture with the specs. It's got a 200Mhz ARM chip (probably for low power consumption) and 32MB RAM. Anyone have more info on this?
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Good call. There used to be big flamewars back when people knew or cared about the licensing. (but now that issues is even stranger, but people are satisfied regardless...)
:)
I'll be very interested to see what the next releases of GNOME and KDE look like, they both sound very cool.
But I probably won't use them, because I still don't know why a "Desktop Environment / Application Suite / Thingy" could possibly be better than an xterm, or why I'd want a window manager other than my particularly boring fvwm2 configuration.
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Ah, gotcha.
;)
:)
Tab completion is still easier, actually, you can use Tab more than once...
(so Q might get you "Queen - ", while F might get you the rest... ("Fat Bottomed Girls" or something))
And yes, file managers are easier sometimes too, which is why people write ncurses interfaces to mp3 players!
Incidentally, my favorite audio player of any sort was Cubic, now OpenCP. I'm still waiting for the "Cubic Team" (or whoever is working on it now) to port it to Linux, because it's just that cool.
The text filemanager would detect what kind of songs the different files were, (it played mods mostly, but they added support for MIDI, WAV, MP3...) and it had graphical display modes for playing the music... It was NEET.
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SGI is so great that they're ditching IRIX in favor of Linux.
Look at the facts first please (providing links is nice too).
SGI has really changed their direction lately.
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SGI has just gotten cooler and cooler. They *really* donate code to the cause, as opposed to Sun, which just claims to do so... (but with strings attached)
;)
And failover is really handy. You never know when you're going to have hardware die on you. Of course, it's much more important when you're working with a bunch of NT boxes, but...
Established vendors with real operating systems switching to Linux instead for production-level systems, and improving it, and giving back to the community. Does it get any better?
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Sure you can do it through the command line. I've thought about messing with it, but I'm happy using a "misc" directory, playing random songs, and skipping the ones I don't like.
;) so feel free to play your songs however you like. Just don't bash$ the command line. :)
Some more complex approaches would involve categorizing the songs. Either you could make "playlists" for them (flat text files with the song names in them) and choose songs out of that (easy), or you could make directories for the categories, and symlink back to the songs, (easy, this time in the filesystem instead) or you could make a "database" with fortune or whatever, or...
Basically, there's no limit to the number and variety of command-line solutions you could use, if you but tried it. It's just as easy as making a playlist any other way.
Simple Playlist Example:
ls * > playlist
(put file names in playlist)
pico playlist
(delete whatever lines you don't like, it consists of ^K and some UP/DOWN arrow key movement... or use your favorite editor, whatever.)
mpg123 -z `cat playlist`
(play playlist)
Queen Example:
mpg123 -z Queen*
No, you can't "click". Boo hoo. Can you type? Why is typing so "jarring"? Don't you like text-based file managers?
Anyhow, there are enough graphical mp3 players out there, (mostly based around mpg123 if they're any good
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Uh oh, it's that time again. Night time, when the trolls lurk.
:)
So I load up slashdot, and it said it was generated by a "Group of Stealth Ninjas" just for me. Well, that scared the hell out of me, so I reloaded it. Then it was generated by a "Cadre of Psycho Ninjas". Oh man.
So I went to this story, where it's safe, right? No! More ninjas! They're everywhere!
...and now I feel like some pancakes. Mmm.
So what's the moral of the story? Ninja thread here, if you like them. I think they should be tagged "Ninja Troll", and get points for that (bottom out at -1 for normal people, but...).
Then we can "Sort By Lowest Score", and have the scale be from -5..1, with the best trolls at the top! (Ninja Troll, Hot Grits Troll, Portman Troll, Open Source Troll, etc., etc.)
Anything higher would of course be "Above your current threshold".
Therefore, moderate the parent down! I suggest a (Score:-3, Ninja Troll, Portman Troll, Patent Troll)
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Actually, Deep Thought would detect that you were 30 links away from a porn site, and kill your browser. :)
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I never said I'd want people bound to one API. I'd just want to support the five or so common ones. I was suggesting the second approach, of the "doomed to failure from the start" variety.
Actually, I'd want the different bindings/APIs on top, and a generic graphics layer below that knows how to make widgets, and rely on the "themes" (just data for the graphics layer) to get the look and feel right. Of course, I'm not qualified to do this, but the design *idea* seems simple enough. You'd just need to know way too much about X programming and widgets to start on it.
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Here's what *you* want (AFAICT):
:)
A standard widget set used across applications on Linux.
You're never going to get that.
But it is a problem, so here's the way I've always said it could be implemented:
Make a library that has the requisite function calls (call them widget bindings or whatever) for each widget set. It then uses them to draw the application. It draws the application by checking to see what "theme" you have set up, and using those widgets to draw it. Common themes would of course be "Motif", "Xaw3d", "GTK", "Qt", "W1ND0WZ", or whatever your little heart desires.
Think of this as a widget API thunking layer. This project would of course be a lot of work, but the payoffs would be just as great.
And you'd want to build everything on your system with this, and have it dynamically linked. (You'd want them static either until it becomes standard, or if you're building a stand-alone app and don't trust library versions)
Then everything would look the same, (or different, if you gave different apps different themes--use X resources or something for that) there would still be many APIs to call, (pick your favorite, the user won't know the difference... mixing and matching might be bad, though) but you wouldn't have to include the whole GUI in your app (unless you're paranoid). Oh, and I'm talking about visual appearances. Standardizing layouts for users would be nice too, but let's ponder that some other time, ok?
Questions? Comments? Please?
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Oh wow, that's awesome! I used Calmira under Win 3.1 for a long time, and I really liked it. (when I had to use Windows, that is :) I've tried to run it under wine before, but it's never worked until now!
Here's a screenshot for you, with all my old icons, running "Slide Show" (my screensaver at the time) in the background, and showing the nasty Wine errors in an xterm...
I must admit, the icons on the desktop and management that Calmira provided at the time were sweet. It clashes with my windowmanager, though.
(I'd have to not bind the mouse buttons, at least, to use Calmira's menus, unless anyone knows a way around this?)
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Oh, I agree with you, JWZ is cool in my book, too. It's just that the Troll you were replying to wasn't Trolling, just Ranting.
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Um, no, I see his point, and when he said something about JWZ being a karma whore on a higher plane, I don't think he was talking about posting to slashdot.
:)
Regardless, JWZ does too have a slashdot account, and he does post occasionally, when something interests him. I think we all understand if he doesn't post much now.
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Sure, you guys don't think this is news, but you're forgetting something.
;)
In nanotech, it's the little differences that count.
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First, let me point out that his page looks just fine in w3m, and it doesn't load the images, either.
Second, JWZ wrote his web page so it would have a certain consistent look in the current web browsers being used today. Some people don't even do that much. And this is just a splash page. Everything after that is mostly text and tables.
Third, once you realize his goals, you complain that he's going about it all wrong. So please, explain to me how in HTML you'd fix this. How do I get the cool big blinking green terminal font instead of using images?
Don't complain about JWZ, complain about the W3C instead. JWZ has tried to implement what they and Netscape want, and he ultimately left out of disgust. Also, I'm sure he could write better code for anything from terminals to X-terminals than we could unless we had a lot of practice. If he strikes you as arrogant, fine, but *I* sure couldn't write a VCR labeler in raw PostScript. But he's definitely not clueless.
Also, turning text into images is interesting, just like turning images into text is interesting. And annoying splash pages are pretty funny, as long as you take them at face value, and link to the content instead...
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Thanks, that fact escaped me, too! (I just submitted my question there)
I guess this begs the question: why do we even put Announcements on here as stories, with comments?
It looks like these announcements contain useful information, so I don't want to filter them, but the comments will probably be necessarily duller. (Even taking into account the current sorry state of slashdot...)
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Excellent.
It's about time we saw a *sane* legal ruling about the internet and their domains.
(If I see *one* more "illegal to link to my content" website, I'm gonna scream, and then make a page that <A HREF="">'s all of the popular sites on the internet...)
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Ah yes, there is a Perl for Windows, and many other platforms... But did you catch the numerological significance of my post?
Oh well, nevermind guys. Here's a hint: I was going for "Funny" rather than "Flamebait", and I didn't mean to post at 2 anyhow, (was using Lynx, somehow missed that checkbox though) but I guess I'll start putting "HUMOR:" back into the subject line. That usually helps.
For some real opinion, I think Slashdot should use something fast instead of Perl. However, I'm impressed that they manage to make so much stuff static, and make the rest of the code pretty fast regardless, so maybe they can handle it.
And I've seen Slashdot unusable under load, and not from network bandwidth. Ping times are very fast, response times from the web server are very slow. Go figure.
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Actually, there's a reason for that. Did you read the comment contained within? He's got a point, as usual...
<!-- Greetings, Lynx users. There is a reason this page doesn't use ALT tags
on the images. The reason is that the bozos responsible for both MSIE
and Netscape Confusicator 4.0 decided that they would display the ALT
tags of images every time you move the mouse over them -- even if the
images are loaded, and even if they are not links. The ALT attribute
to the IMG tag is supposed to be used *instead of* the image, not *in
addition to* the image.
This looks absolutely terrible, so I don't use ALT tags any more in
self-defense.
If they wanted to implemented tooltips, they should have used the TITLE
attribute to the A tag. That's in the HTML 1.2 spec and everything.
I had to decide between making this page look good for the vast majority
of viewers, or making it be readable by the miniscule minority of you
stuck in the 70s. Those of you in the retro contingent lost. Sorry.
-->
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What's your favorite hack, and which of your hacks are you the most proud of?
:) but it could use some work. (maybe I'll work on it someday)
Everyone knows about xdaliclock ("morphing before morphing was cool"), and lately xscreensaver has gotten pretty decent too... (surpassing xlock in the number of supported nifty screensavers) One of my favorites is probably dadadodo, ("the Katz generator", for me...
Also, how's the nightclub stuff going? A welcome break from the fast-paced world of netscape development and net.stardom?
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Actually, I think it was the other way around.
:)
Isn't XEmacs derived from Lucid Emacs, which is the version that JWZ worked on?
It all sounded like a big misunderstanding to me.
(Hence, "Why cooperation with RMS is impossible"
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Actually, "upgrading" from Solaris 2.51 to 2.6 broke a lot of stuff here. Proprietary software, free software, you name it, it's not happy.
For whatever reason, building on later machines as well is a good idea, because some people have problems. Some distributions don't have the glibc2.0 support. (and I've seen commercial software with A.OUT / "Z-MAGIC" Linux binaries, still in use, so...)
Eventually these huge companies will have to run builds on some newer machines, so why not bite the bullet? I think they can handle it. If something breaks, they'll have to fix it eventually, anyhow.
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Actually, looking at his posting history, I have a feeling that Scooby's *default score* might be -2 by now.
;)
...And I have a feeling that Corel/The Wine Project will do it before Microsoft does, since Microsoft uses crappy proprietary porting tools (which they also own now, woo-boo-hoo.) like MainWin or whatever.
That's actually really cool. We need a "Use -1 Bonus" for that feature, though, guys.
And the *original* post in this thread was *really* funny. Especially that "W2K" bit. ROFL! Why is it only at (Score:4, Funny)? Moderate it up to 6!
(I don't care if it's the press release, that's all The Onion ever does, and that's really funny too. Why? Because it's well done!)
Also, moderate the entire story down to (Score 0: Redundant). Like many other people, I'll believe the "MS-Office for Linux" hype when I see it.
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