Well, it sounds interesting. The interview doesn't actually say that much, but it's good to see another company trying this. I guess Loki is really the first game-porting success story, from which all others will be judged for a while.
I too, would love to see FF8 for Linux. Or Ultima 9, for that matter. (anyone played it? I know the system requirements are insane...)
Hopefully, as more shrink-wrapped games and apps for Linux come out, the (often non-existent) Linux section in the local software stores will grow and swell and make people say "What's that penguin?"
Linux: it's not just for bookstores anymore... --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
I'm not a Christian, and I can tell you that the bigotry that I experience is alive and well.
Therefore, the US is still predominately Christian.:)
For good examples of how the US is still Christian, try to explain to random people how it is that you can not believe in "God", and still not worship "the Devil". I'm not kidding, it isn't always that easy. --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
There are lots of methods that are supposed to bring servers to their knees, but Yahoo is kinda big. Of course, it was kinda slow too, when I tried to use it, but...
Well, it took a while to ping the first time, but I see it now. I don't see anything about it on Yahoo News, though.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
How did you misinterpret my post as adoration for GCC? I just use it a lot.
GCC actually optimizes things decently on Intel, and your problems did not concern optimization, but rather scale. And I've seen worse C++ compilers, but GCC definitely does better as a C compiler. It also has a lot of unique flags to tune its behavior in both C and C++, which is a really good thing to investigate.
Also, last I checked, GCC optimization sucks on Solaris, and probably a few other platforms. But again, that wasn't even what you were talking about. (I think) Also, it's nice that GCC supports so many platforms, and allows its users to extend it. That's really its strength, and also why we have Linux in the first place.
But when I wrote some classes that used templates, I had to #include my.cc files to get it to work. Bleh.
Also, I agree, RHIDE for Linux is pretty buggy. But the original, RHIDE for DOS is much better. (and it runs in DOSEmu. Go figure) Also, I *love* its info browser. That is a wonderful idea, making it just like the Borland Help. --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
If so, when did you kill the real JonKatz and replace him with a JonKatz generator?
Can we expect a source release of the real JonKatz generator, or are you keeping it under wraps so people don't bug you about it, like they do with the SlashCode?
Really, we're curious. Do you really expect us to believe you'd use a title like "Dying Babies and The Myth of American Freedom" if you just wanted to talk about Censorship?
For those who don't know, the JonKatz generator takes buzz-words and input on a popular topic, and mangles it with the (patented?) unique verbose Katzian style. I can imitate it, but never perfect it, as the real JonKatz generator looks coherent, but at a second glance never is.
Simple example--this isn't as good as the real JonKatz Generator, since I'm using its output as input, and JWZ's dadadodo as the generator. But it isn't too far off. The incoherency is similar, but the grammar and structure need some work. Free music sites, order vitamins and Slashdot. Free browsing, habits. But they can keep our information from copying a world where this information on citizens, the right to track their habits.
In the FDIC, all the distance between corporate and increasingly dependent on and portals and intellectual property can't really be more than AOL and intellectual property can't really be privacy. According to attempt this, the Web sites, order vitamins and writing cool software buy, books check out, of our privacy is a law enforcement agency or preventing Court in and civil libertarians would explode in and other businesses. If you enter, what data marketing and the Net and unintended, however, as we get our political systems already seems remote. All of privacy they can even trace our government has have acquired or invoke the Net and unintended, however, as the minute they fail to Site to Site to the data is increasingly dependent on the largest Financial Institution Web.
Really, I think the JonKatz generator is an excellent program. But the Slashdot community deserves to know the truth about it.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
It's about time someone sued those bastards. Go, mp3.com, defend your good name!
We need some legislation about the need for open file formats along with open standards, completely separate from legislation about copyrights over the content. I don't care if you want to protect your Britney Spears song, Mr. BigRecordCompany, that doesn't give you the right to persecute the people using mp3 files.
I don't believe people can get this upset over a *file format*, jeez. It's almost as stupid as "Burn all.gif's day". It's a bunch of bits, a standard representation, and attempting to own it and sue people just makes the world a dimmer place.
However, whenever people smell money, expect something stupid. Like LinuxOne, for example...
Now we know that BeOS is a major player in the OS market--they have a product with a useless two-letter acronym in the title! While Microsoft has long had "NT", BeOS is competing with "IA", sure to sow confusion due to Intel's forthcoming "IA64" chipset. (As in, "When are they porting BeIA to the IA64?")
As usual, Linux and Unix still have to play catch-up to be a major player. The Linux Zealots claim that three-letter recursive acronyms like "GNU" are superior acronym technology. We here at FUD-Net think they said the same thing about three-button mice, and let's face it, that's just *way* too complicated for us.
Actually, I haven't messed with it, I went from a P133 to a K6/300, and my next purchase will be... well, whatever has the best price/performance ratio in x86-land by mid-summer, probably. But like I said, hardware hacking has gotten complicated enough for me to stay out of it, because I haven't been keeping up.
It used to be, you didn't miss much by not keeping up, like I said. IDE and SCSI, ATAPI cdrom drives, floppy controllers, ISA and PCI, Serial and Paralell Ports... and now they have to mess it all up with a bunch of proprietary, non-standard technologies.
If there were an open spec, I know I wouldn't have to wait this long for decent support under Linux. But no, we've got incompatible video cards, incompatible processor extensions, incompatible media, incompatible I/O... Obviously there's an advantage to standardizing the hardware platforms and the software interfaces. I'd be happy with maybe two, well-documented, competing standards in each separate domain. But no...
Whoa, dude. I don't know which post you *thought* you were replying to, but you've got it all wrong.
The guy you're flaming was complaining that the technology moves too fast for the user to keep up, or be able to safely upgrade. And I, for one, agree with him.
I tend to upgrade every two years or so, but if I upgraded componentwise, I'd want a motherboard that lasted.
And you made a lot of assumptions about that guy, alright? Think about it. If I had a few computers lying around (I do), and I bought a new one, I might want to build a better second one out of the remaining components. I tend to reuse old hard drives, because there are standards that allow this. What about chips?
Regular pentium-style ZIFF sockets were standard for a long time. Now we have all kinds of weird proprietary cards, buses, RAM, whatever. I know enough not to mix random RAM, but the complexity has definitely gotten out of hand for all but the up-to-date hardware hacker, and that isn't me.
Even if Slashgrits is just headlines and a poll, couldn't we have a Slashbox for it?
Pretty please? I *need* my daily updates on the latest grits-pouring, pancake-making, ninja news for trolls, stuff that petrifies!:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
I tend to have an "engineering" attitude towards coding when I just need to get something done, but even then I might work harder to introduce optimizations or syntactic elegance when it isn't necessary.
However, I've been programming for long enough that now I know when some constructs just look prettier, and when they're actually just really slow. That wasn't always the case!
Example--compare these:
use count%=8 or count&=8, use (++count)%=7 or if (++count>7) count = 0;
Each example does the same thing, (making a couple of assumptions here) but some of them do division, and the others don't. Some of them might be harder to understand, too. But if you have to, comment it instead of using the slow way because it's prettier.:) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Right, once it's just you and someone else, you can drop the crap, and just treat each other as people.:)
It's only groups where you have those problems, and often it's only when groups confront people that they have those problems socially. There's a preacher at my school who loves to get people angry and riled up, and they'll end up saying things they wouldn't normally say in a one-on-one situation.
However, when just talking to one other person, anyone in that group can generally come to an understanding of some kind, even the preacher! --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Well, the environment is definitely a separate chunk that can be made to work with the compiler(s). That's one thing I like about RHIDE.
I don't know how much of a market there would be for an X RAD tool, but I understand there are such things for FLTK and GTK. (?) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Yeah, that's what happens when you turn a C compiler into a C++ compiler. However, that's actually not nearly as bad as some implementations I've seen, believe it or not.
Centerline's old "C++ compiler" didn't support boolean variables, true or false. I had to ifdef / define the darn things if I wanted to use them.
I'm not convinced that strong typing is a benefit, unless you can override it when necessary. However, I guess it helps catch errors if you know what types you want, and want speed. Lately, I've been using languages with pretty flexible types, and implementing something that *looks* like that in C++ is a real pain.
(pardon me while I override the + operator so it supports every combination of anything addition-like for every type, ever.;) --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Yes, I know that sometimes all those mergers make me want to get down on my knees too, but unfortunately, I'm straight, male, and have to get to class now.
Later. Good luck getting out of the karma hole with your new account, "Daren Brantley". --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Well, you can always use RHIDE, (looks like a Borland product, in text mode, yay!) FreePascal, (pretty complete, not quite there last I checked. But back then it was FPK Pascal or something) and NASM. (looks kinda like TASM, for those of us who don't want to learn AT&T-style Assembler syntax, for one.)
Oh, and feel free to port the BGI interface. I ported some of it to SVGALib, so I could move my graphics hacks over. Of course, I used p2c, and hacked the output some, and compiled with egcs, but it's all good. And my stuff runs much better now. I just wish SVGALib had more primitives, like "floodfill"... *sigh* --- pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
Slashdot Mirror
Well, it sounds interesting. The interview doesn't actually say that much, but it's good to see another company trying this. I guess Loki is really the first game-porting success story, from which all others will be judged for a while.
I too, would love to see FF8 for Linux. Or Ultima 9, for that matter. (anyone played it? I know the system requirements are insane...)
Hopefully, as more shrink-wrapped games and apps for Linux come out, the (often non-existent) Linux section in the local software stores will grow and swell and make people say "What's that penguin?"
Linux: it's not just for bookstores anymore...
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I'm not a Christian, and I can tell you that the bigotry that I experience is alive and well.
:)
Therefore, the US is still predominately Christian.
For good examples of how the US is still Christian, try to explain to random people how it is that you can not believe in "God", and still not worship "the Devil". I'm not kidding, it isn't always that easy.
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Slashdot does that every day. Hmm...
:)
There are lots of methods that are supposed to bring servers to their knees, but Yahoo is kinda big. Of course, it was kinda slow too, when I tried to use it, but...
Well, it took a while to ping the first time, but I see it now. I don't see anything about it on Yahoo News, though.
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How did you misinterpret my post as adoration for GCC? I just use it a lot.
.cc files to get it to work. Bleh.
GCC actually optimizes things decently on Intel, and your problems did not concern optimization, but rather scale. And I've seen worse C++ compilers, but GCC definitely does better as a C compiler. It also has a lot of unique flags to tune its behavior in both C and C++, which is a really good thing to investigate.
Also, last I checked, GCC optimization sucks on Solaris, and probably a few other platforms. But again, that wasn't even what you were talking about. (I think) Also, it's nice that GCC supports so many platforms, and allows its users to extend it. That's really its strength, and also why we have Linux in the first place.
But when I wrote some classes that used templates, I had to #include my
Also, I agree, RHIDE for Linux is pretty buggy. But the original, RHIDE for DOS is much better. (and it runs in DOSEmu. Go figure) Also, I *love* its info browser. That is a wonderful idea, making it just like the Borland Help.
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It looks like a book, but I don't believe it.
The only piece of information I got out of this is that "geek" has switched meanings with "nerd". Wow. Out of the 80's and into the 90's. Gee.
And what's this about biting the heads off of chickens?!?
I think I'll save my time, money, and patience, and just read The Hacker Crackdown again.
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First, was there ever a real JonKatz?
:)
If so, when did you kill the real JonKatz and replace him with a JonKatz generator?
Can we expect a source release of the real JonKatz generator, or are you keeping it under wraps so people don't bug you about it, like they do with the SlashCode?
Really, we're curious. Do you really expect us to believe you'd use a title like "Dying Babies and The Myth of American Freedom" if you just wanted to talk about Censorship?
For those who don't know, the JonKatz generator takes buzz-words and input on a popular topic, and mangles it with the (patented?) unique verbose Katzian style. I can imitate it, but never perfect it, as the real JonKatz generator looks coherent, but at a second glance never is.
Simple example--this isn't as good as the real JonKatz Generator, since I'm using its output as input, and JWZ's dadadodo as the generator. But it isn't too far off. The incoherency is similar, but the grammar and structure need some work.
Free music sites, order vitamins and Slashdot. Free browsing, habits. But they can keep our information from copying a world where this information on citizens, the right to track their habits.
In the FDIC, all the distance between corporate and increasingly dependent on and portals and intellectual property can't really be more than AOL and intellectual property can't really be privacy. According to attempt this, the Web sites, order vitamins and writing cool software buy, books check out, of our privacy is a law enforcement agency or preventing Court in and civil libertarians would explode in and other businesses. If you enter, what data marketing and the Net and unintended, however, as we get our political systems already seems remote. All of privacy they can even trace our government has have acquired or invoke the Net and unintended, however, as the minute they fail to Site to Site to the data is increasingly dependent on the largest Financial Institution Web.
Really, I think the JonKatz generator is an excellent program. But the Slashdot community deserves to know the truth about it.
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It's about time someone sued those bastards. Go, mp3.com, defend your good name!
.gif's day". It's a bunch of bits, a standard representation, and attempting to own it and sue people just makes the world a dimmer place.
We need some legislation about the need for open file formats along with open standards, completely separate from legislation about copyrights over the content. I don't care if you want to protect your Britney Spears song, Mr. BigRecordCompany, that doesn't give you the right to persecute the people using mp3 files.
I don't believe people can get this upset over a *file format*, jeez. It's almost as stupid as "Burn all
However, whenever people smell money, expect something stupid. Like LinuxOne, for example...
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Sad but true, my friend, sad but true.
(No, wait, I swear this was an on-topic reply! really...
um... say something about Be! Quick! Ah, nuts...
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Now we know that BeOS is a major player in the OS market--they have a product with a useless two-letter acronym in the title! While Microsoft has long had "NT", BeOS is competing with "IA", sure to sow confusion due to Intel's forthcoming "IA64" chipset. (As in, "When are they porting BeIA to the IA64?")
As usual, Linux and Unix still have to play catch-up to be a major player. The Linux Zealots claim that three-letter recursive acronyms like "GNU" are superior acronym technology. We here at FUD-Net think they said the same thing about three-button mice, and let's face it, that's just *way* too complicated for us.
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Sure, their mascot is a reptile, but how well does it scale?
Anyhow, I think if you're gonna name it Sue-something, Sue-sasaurous would be more appropriate. Why? 'cause that's a *big* chameleon!
I'd probably call it either Leon or Cammie, but maybe that's just me.
Yeah, I like "Cammie the SuSE Chameleon", that's cute.
But hey, at least I didn't say charazard...
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Actually, I haven't messed with it, I went from a P133 to a K6/300, and my next purchase will be... well, whatever has the best price/performance ratio in x86-land by mid-summer, probably. But like I said, hardware hacking has gotten complicated enough for me to stay out of it, because I haven't been keeping up.
It used to be, you didn't miss much by not keeping up, like I said. IDE and SCSI, ATAPI cdrom drives, floppy controllers, ISA and PCI, Serial and Paralell Ports... and now they have to mess it all up with a bunch of proprietary, non-standard technologies.
If there were an open spec, I know I wouldn't have to wait this long for decent support under Linux. But no, we've got incompatible video cards, incompatible processor extensions, incompatible media, incompatible I/O... Obviously there's an advantage to standardizing the hardware platforms and the software interfaces. I'd be happy with maybe two, well-documented, competing standards in each separate domain. But no...
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If I have a claim to fame, that's probably not it.
However, Mr.Dimmick isn't bad at Quake, and at the time, he was playing it non-stop. In fact, he was at the top of the list for that game...
...then Carmack came in, and proceeded to wipe the floor with him. That's why I'm sorry I missed it.
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It's aimlessly sticking words together for the most generic name possible that sounds cool and isn't taken. (heck, even if it is taken...)
LinuxOne
Internet Explorer
LinuxMac
ActiveX
And, for that matter, Office, Word, Windows, Money, etc., etc., etc.
The only original things Microsoft ever did... they bought from other people.
Apparently LinuxOne can't do that, they're forced to resort to outright theft.
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Hey, programming is his job and his life.
I know I wouldn't marry anyone who wanted to get rid of my hobby and my job. That's a little *too* personal, no matter what.
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Whoa, dude. I don't know which post you *thought* you were replying to, but you've got it all wrong.
The guy you're flaming was complaining that the technology moves too fast for the user to keep up, or be able to safely upgrade. And I, for one, agree with him.
I tend to upgrade every two years or so, but if I upgraded componentwise, I'd want a motherboard that lasted.
And you made a lot of assumptions about that guy, alright? Think about it. If I had a few computers lying around (I do), and I bought a new one, I might want to build a better second one out of the remaining components. I tend to reuse old hard drives, because there are standards that allow this. What about chips?
Regular pentium-style ZIFF sockets were standard for a long time. Now we have all kinds of weird proprietary cards, buses, RAM, whatever. I know enough not to mix random RAM, but the complexity has definitely gotten out of hand for all but the up-to-date hardware hacker, and that isn't me.
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Good luck with married life, John. There's something to be said for a wife who kicks ass at Quake. :)
I don't know him, but he fragged a friend of mine once. Wish I could have seen it...
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Even if Slashgrits is just headlines and a poll, couldn't we have a Slashbox for it?
:)
Pretty please? I *need* my daily updates on the latest grits-pouring, pancake-making, ninja news for trolls, stuff that petrifies!
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I haven't messed with SuSE--the more than complete distribution. Apparently it's *so* big, we need *two* slashdot stories on it, wow! :)
:)
But--big deal. A survey where people pick their favorite distribution. Wow, I've never seen that before. That's about as cool as a Slashdot Poll!
At least FreeBSD wasn't voted as the "best Linux distribution"--I think that'd get some attention!
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I tend to have an "engineering" attitude towards coding when I just need to get something done, but even then I might work harder to introduce optimizations or syntactic elegance when it isn't necessary.
:)
However, I've been programming for long enough that now I know when some constructs just look prettier, and when they're actually just really slow. That wasn't always the case!
Example--compare these:
use count%=8 or count&=8,
use (++count)%=7 or if (++count>7) count = 0;
Each example does the same thing, (making a couple of assumptions here) but some of them do division, and the others don't. Some of them might be harder to understand, too. But if you have to, comment it instead of using the slow way because it's prettier.
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Right, once it's just you and someone else, you can drop the crap, and just treat each other as people. :)
It's only groups where you have those problems, and often it's only when groups confront people that they have those problems socially. There's a preacher at my school who loves to get people angry and riled up, and they'll end up saying things they wouldn't normally say in a one-on-one situation.
However, when just talking to one other person, anyone in that group can generally come to an understanding of some kind, even the preacher!
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What, it prints out "Inf"? The "real compiler" I tried did the same thing. Of course, if you had a "real interpreter"... (contradiction in terms?)
(define main
(lambda (i x)
(if (= i 1000000000)
x
(main (add1 i) (* x x)))))
(main 0 3.14)
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Well, the environment is definitely a separate chunk that can be made to work with the compiler(s). That's one thing I like about RHIDE.
I don't know how much of a market there would be for an X RAD tool, but I understand there are such things for FLTK and GTK. (?)
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Yeah, that's what happens when you turn a C compiler into a C++ compiler. However, that's actually not nearly as bad as some implementations I've seen, believe it or not.
;)
Centerline's old "C++ compiler" didn't support boolean variables, true or false. I had to ifdef / define the darn things if I wanted to use them.
I'm not convinced that strong typing is a benefit, unless you can override it when necessary. However, I guess it helps catch errors if you know what types you want, and want speed. Lately, I've been using languages with pretty flexible types, and implementing something that *looks* like that in C++ is a real pain.
(pardon me while I override the + operator so it supports every combination of anything addition-like for every type, ever.
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Ooh, wow. Got some karma to burn, eh?
Yes, I know that sometimes all those mergers make me want to get down on my knees too, but unfortunately, I'm straight, male, and have to get to class now.
Later. Good luck getting out of the karma hole with your new account, "Daren Brantley".
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Ooh, ouch. Don't like GCC, eh? :)
Well, you can always use RHIDE, (looks like a Borland product, in text mode, yay!)
FreePascal, (pretty complete, not quite there last I checked. But back then it was FPK Pascal or something)
and NASM. (looks kinda like TASM, for those of us who don't want to learn AT&T-style Assembler syntax, for one.)
Oh, and feel free to port the BGI interface. I ported some of it to SVGALib, so I could move my graphics hacks over. Of course, I used p2c, and hacked the output some, and compiled with egcs, but it's all good. And my stuff runs much better now. I just wish SVGALib had more primitives, like "floodfill"... *sigh*
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