Great all the Fed has to do is send a fax and they own your ass with personal info in tow and all information that e-bay ever had on you.
That makes me feel safe. Sure.
Why the hell have we allowed our government to intrude into your existences in such an all-encompassing fashion. I got Asscroft ready to puke the Patriot Killer II Act and Lieberman telling me from the other side how bad the mean old pop culture is and what the hell is a person to do. I mean I am not one for hauling ass as if I had a clue of where to run to if I did.
Does this sort of intrusion bother anyone else out there?
Like a huge tank through the landscape. Dream on Gates. This is not the effort of a huge company that can simply be discounted. This is a grass roots efforts of people dedicated to forge a better way of computing for their own goals.
Sure, the IBM and the RedHat companies contribute a lot but the system like FreeBSD and others could and did survive before and will again if it has to.
Island Records sued Negativeland and SST over the U2 single not the other way around.
Corporate rock sucks twice as bad when it hides behind slogans it refuses to live up to.
Yes, Island Records does suck but SST does not.:->
http://www.swcp.com/rtoads/printmag/issue3/neg_d at a.html
Above is the link on this.
Below is the info from the link:
August 20, 1991: SST Records releases a CD single by Negativland called "U2", a tape-collage parody of U2's "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" featuring sampled and scrambled portions of the U2 song itself and a found tape of radio personality Casey Kasem losing his cool. As part of the joke, the CD packaging features the title--the letter "U" and the numeral "2"--largely and prominently with the attribution "Negativland" in much smaller letters below it.
October 5, 1991: two weeks later, a federal judge issues a temporary restraining order at the behest of Island Records and Warner-Chappell Music. "Preferring retreat to total annihilation," Negativland and SST immediately capitulate to every demand. These demands are:
* Everyone who received a copy of the record--reviewers, record stores, radio stations, etc.--must be notified to return it. If they fail to comply, they may be subject to penalties "which may include imprisonment and fines". Once returned, the records will be forwarded to Island for destruction.
* All of SST's on-hand stock of the record--in vinyl, cassette, and CD--is to be delivered to Island, where it will be destroyed.
* All mechanical parts used to prepare and manufacture the record are to be delivered to Island, presumably also for destruction. This includes "all tapes, stampers, molds, lacquers and other parts used in the manufacturing" and "all artwork, labels, packaging, promotional, marketing, and advertising or similar material."
* Negativland's copyrights in the recordings themselves are assigned to Island and Warner-Chappell. Negativland no longer own what they have created.
* Negativland and SST must pay $25,000 and half the wholesale proceeds from the copies of the record that were sold and not returned. Estimated cost to Negativland is $70,000--more than they have made in their 14 years of existence.
reverse engineering playback, copying and even listening to media that you buy these are all antique ideas guys.
Get with the program. The owners of the copyrights to digital media are the only ones who should be authorized to tell you when and how you can listen to the products you buy. Ownership? You don't jack except the worthless piece of plastic that won't play in your machine.
The rights of consumers count for very little in a paranoid world of corporate heads who do NOT understand that people are buying their products because they suck. Naw, it is the technology that allows people to filter out the crap that is to blame. Doublespeak that has been endorsed through the courts.
I have a list of ten CDs I would like to buy because I have either lost my old ones or I have them only on tape and they are getting awfully warn out now. Still, I hesitate. Except for the stuff from SST from old Post punk bands of the time I hate the idea of funding the people that made the mantra Corporate Rock still Sucks so true and sad.
The funny thing is that one person insulted gaming geeks as not every getting any play.
That is odd because many gamers I know are more social and apt to do things outside of computers like actually dating. Other types of geeks like comic book geeks or programmer geeks etc..etc.. tend to stereotypically have a bit more trouble in this regard. Notice it is all a stereotype and I myself fit into a couple of the above categories and I have a wife, kids and I actually weigh under 250lbs.
Everyone wants the ideal. They want to play the bulked bad ass kicking rear and taking names.
Do you really want to play a short hairy balding character with dark circles under your eyes from lack of sleep?
No, that is the villian you kick the crap out of on the third level of the game.
The weird ones are the ones that play the opposite sex and really get into it and off on it. They worry me.
It honestly defies all conventional wisdom that a company set beside a large monopoly can still survive with a profit and imbue such incredible loyalty from its consumer base. If there were a couple of big players and Apple was a niche player in left field it would be different. But still..
They cost more.
They are generally slower (I know this is getting better everytime they make the consumer cough up money for a new version Mac OS X).
There is less software available in the retail markets.
Before you take a LART to me. This is leading to something.
Why?
This is a loaded question really since I am a linux user on x86 and understand there are plenty of reasons not to want to follow the mainstream. But I know my reasons and why others use linux.
I am actually curious.
Macheads with the computer world so very Windows focused why do you still buy macs?
Like there aren't books for Windows folks for tricks you can pull to make your life easier on a Windows box? Aren't there are a bunch of classes available for MCSE types?
Yeah, you might want the book if you had not already thought of some of these tricks. That is the point of reading and learning, duh!
Give me a break. Every admin knows there are little things that can be automated and worked from a base install to help them get through the day and get their stuff done no matter what OS you admin.
I propose this to the community. What is the neatest hack/trick that saves time from your day in terms of programming or system administration?
BTW, any tricks I don't care if they are straight commercial Unix, Linux or Windows.
I found the review to be interesting but a bit short in terms of details. The top 75 exploits almost seem worth the price of admission on this book though.
However, this brings up a really good question.
How many of the folks out there in./ land have really been hacked?
It will take the combined efforts of all distro makers to deal with the issues surrounding taking linux from the server to the desktop environments.
Primarily the focus for better compatibility with the windows world through a constantly improving and forward thinking wine layer.
Also, through combined pressure and possibly incentives (read bribes) to the HW manufacturers for linux compatible drivers.
Through better communication and interoperability across the two major desktops.
Finally, the combined efforts of a group of distros can concentrate efforts more wisely in tersm of help given to projects that need progression.
Very good overall.
the anti-f'ed up company
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· Score: 4, Insightful
The dot commers are amazing. I was inspired to look up an old company I use to work for. They employed about 12 people total.
They had three sales people, three support people, on tester, one secretary, three programmers. One of the programmers doubled as their sysadmin. The support staff had to work on bugs for Q&A in their time between calls. Advanced Productivity software literally had clients that were some of the biggest lawfirms around.
They made a product. They sold a product. They made money.
The guys who started the thing took out personal loans to keep it going for awhile. He passed out profits back to the employees when times were good. Honestly, if there was a place to be promoted to or a position open when I was ready to go on I probably would have never left.
Small companies can survive in the IT world. They just have to have half a clue in their heads to do it.
Fill a niche, concetrate and expand along the niche not outside it, keep employee and overhead costs low (their building was nothing grand but I had my own office).
This is basic business stuff that many companies still have no concept of.
WMP on linux -- I'll believe it when I see it.
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Windows Media Player 9
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· Score: 4, Interesting
Listen this might be good. If WMP comes to linux then perhaps IE might follow and then Outlook Express. Think it is crazy? All the apps mentioned have Solaris versions so why not?
Sure, I won't use them. But the corporate folks will love it.
Also, a lot of folks scream about how hard it is to set up some of the latest greatest video/audio apps but with apt and apt for rpm I have had an easy time of it. The only problem is that when you want the newest latest greatest features like Sorennson support in mplayer.
I am just waiting for a complete quicktime Sorrenson solution. Either it needs work or my setup is weird because it did not work for me. It has not been out that long so no worries. I will probably get a version working of this early code two days before the apt for rpm folks put rpms for it on freshrpms.
Anyway, I would not use WMP or Outlook Express in Linux but there are plenty of corporate adopters that would. Not only that, I have to admit I would use IE every day in Linux, for about five minutes. Why? The corporate timesheet app online works only on IE.:->
Yeah, people act like only MS can get infected with a virus but there will be a major linux virus soon. It is going to happen. As linux gets more exposure more schmucks will write malicious code designed for busting up linux boxes. It is not like the Unix world is some foolproof world of rock hard servers.
After all, why did linux inherit the Unix concern for security?
Enough old-school unix guys have been bitten by the bad security in telnet and NIS and a half dozen old world Unix services with big nasty security issues.
Sure Bastille linux or RedHat secure server makes decent choice and OpenBSD is locked pretty tight right out of the box. That does not mean that it is impossible to break into those boxes. Just that it is more difficult. All you need is a one-day lag between a security issue posting on Cert and the patch to whatever software you are using coming up for your distro or OS. It can happen to any of us. It will happen to many of us.
The over-confident are always the funniest to watch when their shit hits the fan.
The honeypot thing is interesting. I have always wondered if you really get enough useful information from the attacks to warrant the time put into the systems. Somehow it just smacks of a geeky wanking waste of time. On the other hand, maybe the information from such implementations really make this worth it.
The key to Microsoft ever losing its monopoly status is two-fold.
1. Microsoft must screw up royally and continue to tick its customers off.
2. The competition (linux or Apple or whoever) has to progress significantly and continue to do well at the same time.
Otherwise the consumer will have to stick to the kludged up monopolist because there is no other choice.
The key therefore is not just Microsoft failing but other companies actually succeeding and progressing as MS fumbles.
After all even if Linux and Apple and other companies do a good job with their products the vast majority of people will continue to make the safe move and use MS products despite the alternatives.
Without both factors, the monopoly continues.
8.1 will have to wait...
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· Score: 5, Interesting
I just got my RH8 laptop singing with the new kernel and they go out and release a beta!
Well, I think I will just wait. Sit back and watch the flack and see what people like/dislike and have trouble with before I go jumping into a new release. I got a lot of the stuff they are pushing already from Nyquists apt repository. At least the stuff I wanted like fontillus and gstreamer and such.
I think RH has come a long way so far and hope to see it progress even further.
My wish list is:
Larger set of server configuration tools like NIS server, client, LDAP server and client GUI apps. A network shares app that could handle samba and nfs would be really helpful (Ximian Setup Tools had one way back in the day).
Menu-editing for individual users.
Faster hardware check tool so bootup wouldn't hang there figuring out my configuration so long.
Graphical boot messages screen so my bootup can get slower:->.
System-wide font installer like KDE has. Fontillus installs fonts drag and drop for users.
Package Management tied to apt freshrpms repository. I like the GUI package management tool but end up using synaptic because it is not tied to apt.
Actually its Phoebe like the character from Friends.
The joke in the changelog or release notes go like this:
"You know, Chandler, you being here is the best gift I could
ask for Christmas."
"Aww. Thanks Pheebs."
"Ok, now where's my real present?"
It is right there in the link on the story if you take a look. Going to wait on this one. Got my 8.0 box running right and just updated the kernel not going to jump right now unless I get a good reason.
Sure, they can't call the thing GNU if they keep all the proprietary stuff from the Cocoa angles in.
Apple is NOT ready to go all open-source with their stuff so its an impasse.
Can't really blame either side. The OSnews folks are plugging this in the commentaries as an example of closed-minded attitude of the GNU folks or either the greed of a silly corporation who has no clue.
I think that is the wrong response. It had to happen if the Gnu/Darwin project was going to stay true to its ideals. Still, moving Apple to be open-minded to open-source ideas is like moving a mountain with a spoon. It is happening but very slowly. I have worked for too many corporations to just get all knee-jerk and blast them immediately. They act of moving such a huge thing in a new direction is a slow process at best.
This is especially difficult when Apple is not really sure if it wants to change direction. On one hand it wants to open-source the tech or guts of the OS while at the same time protect its look and feel. It would be easier if Apple was totally sure of what it wanted.
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How many people out there use java in their web based apps that interface with a database server backend?
What platforms do you use for development?
What Dbs do you use?
What web server?
Why?
Inquiring minds want to check your java intake and output.
Great all the Fed has to do is send a fax and they own your ass with personal info in tow and all information that e-bay ever had on you.
That makes me feel safe. Sure.
Why the hell have we allowed our government to intrude into your existences in such an all-encompassing fashion. I got Asscroft ready to puke the Patriot Killer II Act and Lieberman telling me from the other side how bad the mean old pop culture is and what the hell is a person to do. I mean I am not one for hauling ass as if I had a clue of where to run to if I did.
Does this sort of intrusion bother anyone else out there?
Why?
Like a huge tank through the landscape. Dream on Gates. This is not the effort of a huge company that can simply be discounted. This is a grass roots efforts of people dedicated to forge a better way of computing for their own goals.
Sure, the IBM and the RedHat companies contribute a lot but the system like FreeBSD and others could and did survive before and will again if it has to.
His remarks are the flip bits of puking FUD.
Ooops there are good guys now.
forgot.
What about a Romulan statue stabbing jesus with a phaser right above the alter?
Darth could be on the other side with the light saber with angels of long dead jedi coming down...
Sorry, I digress into blasephemy and damn its fun!
Island Records sued Negativeland and SST over the U2 single not the other way around.
:->
d at a.html
Corporate rock sucks twice as bad when it hides behind slogans it refuses to live up to.
Yes, Island Records does suck but SST does not.
http://www.swcp.com/rtoads/printmag/issue3/neg_
Above is the link on this.
Below is the info from the link:
August 20, 1991: SST Records releases a CD single by Negativland called "U2", a tape-collage parody of U2's "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" featuring sampled and scrambled portions of the U2 song itself and a found tape of radio personality Casey Kasem losing his cool. As part of the joke, the CD packaging features the title--the letter "U" and the numeral "2"--largely and prominently with the attribution "Negativland" in much smaller letters below it.
October 5, 1991: two weeks later, a federal judge issues a temporary restraining order at the behest of Island Records and Warner-Chappell Music. "Preferring retreat to total annihilation," Negativland and SST immediately capitulate to every demand. These demands are:
* Everyone who received a copy of the record--reviewers, record stores, radio stations, etc.--must be notified to return it. If they fail to comply, they may be subject to penalties "which may include imprisonment and fines". Once returned, the records will be forwarded to Island for destruction.
* All of SST's on-hand stock of the record--in vinyl, cassette, and CD--is to be delivered to Island, where it will be destroyed.
* All mechanical parts used to prepare and manufacture the record are to be delivered to Island, presumably also for destruction. This includes "all tapes, stampers, molds, lacquers and other parts used in the manufacturing" and "all artwork, labels, packaging, promotional, marketing, and advertising or similar material."
* Negativland's copyrights in the recordings themselves are assigned to Island and Warner-Chappell. Negativland no longer own what they have created.
* Negativland and SST must pay $25,000 and half the wholesale proceeds from the copies of the record that were sold and not returned. Estimated cost to Negativland is $70,000--more than they have made in their 14 years of existence.
In other words, you just got it backwards FredIV.
reverse engineering playback, copying and even listening to media that you buy these are all antique ideas guys.
Get with the program. The owners of the copyrights to digital media are the only ones who should be authorized to tell you when and how you can listen to the products you buy. Ownership? You don't jack except the worthless piece of plastic that won't play in your machine.
The rights of consumers count for very little in a paranoid world of corporate heads who do NOT understand that people are buying their products because they suck. Naw, it is the technology that allows people to filter out the crap that is to blame. Doublespeak that has been endorsed through the courts.
I have a list of ten CDs I would like to buy because I have either lost my old ones or I have them only on tape and they are getting awfully warn out now. Still, I hesitate. Except for the stuff from SST from old Post punk bands of the time I hate the idea of funding the people that made the mantra Corporate Rock still Sucks so true and sad.
I emits a loud signal to the bear that there is an idiot with a PDA and a dirty bomb who is not afraid to use it on said hungry bear.
Give the bear fair warning and all.
XFree86 --
.fonts dir.
Download fonts.
Drop them onto desktop.
Use KDE's font installer to add them to your list of fonts.
Alternately for the Redhat8 or 9 set simply copy them into their
Silly people.
Looking at the response of gamers so far.
No.
The funny thing is that one person insulted gaming geeks as not every getting any play.
That is odd because many gamers I know are more social and apt to do things outside of computers like actually dating. Other types of geeks like comic book geeks or programmer geeks etc..etc.. tend to stereotypically have a bit more trouble in this regard. Notice it is all a stereotype and I myself fit into a couple of the above categories and I have a wife, kids and I actually weigh under 250lbs.
Everyone wants the ideal. They want to play the bulked bad ass kicking rear and taking names.
Do you really want to play a short hairy balding character with dark circles under your eyes from lack of sleep?
No, that is the villian you kick the crap out of on the third level of the game.
The weird ones are the ones that play the opposite sex and really get into it and off on it. They worry me.
It honestly defies all conventional wisdom that a company set beside a large monopoly can still survive with a profit and imbue such incredible loyalty from its consumer base. If there were a couple of big players and Apple was a niche player in left field it would be different. But still..
They cost more.
They are generally slower (I know this is getting better everytime they make the consumer cough up money for a new version Mac OS X).
There is less software available in the retail markets.
Before you take a LART to me. This is leading to something.
Why?
This is a loaded question really since I am a linux user on x86 and understand there are plenty of reasons not to want to follow the mainstream. But I know my reasons and why others use linux.
I am actually curious.
Macheads with the computer world so very Windows focused why do you still buy macs?
Like there aren't books for Windows folks for tricks you can pull to make your life easier on a Windows box? Aren't there are a bunch of classes available for MCSE types?
Yeah, you might want the book if you had not already thought of some of these tricks. That is the point of reading and learning, duh!
Give me a break. Every admin knows there are little things that can be automated and worked from a base install to help them get through the day and get their stuff done no matter what OS you admin.
I propose this to the community. What is the neatest hack/trick that saves time from your day in terms of programming or system administration?
BTW, any tricks I don't care if they are straight commercial Unix, Linux or Windows.
They use linux right...
How hard is it to create a new version of linux for a new CPU like this?
I am no kernel hacker but doesn't there have to be certain hooks for the CPU included for a port to be successful?
How do they get an OS (linux or whatever really) running on this thing?
I found the review to be interesting but a bit short in terms of details. The top 75 exploits almost seem worth the price of admission on this book though.
./ land have really been hacked?
However, this brings up a really good question.
How many of the folks out there in
How did you recover?
I can see the commercial now:
Its beer.
No its holy blessed beer!
Its clean too.
Straight from the washing machine to the priest for his blessing and on to you the consumer...
Its clean, its washed and holy too.
Washing machine beer made by a priest.
You can't beat that with a stick.
Good. I like the improved multimedia, theme support, cd-burning, panel improvements and the such.
My question is what is the one thing that you wanted to see in Gnome 2.2 that did not get in?
What is your Gnome 2.4 wishlist?
BTW, yes everyone wants a better gtk fileselector and browsing of archive files. Lets get all out-of-the-box on this.
It will take the combined efforts of all distro makers to deal with the issues surrounding taking linux from the server to the desktop environments.
Primarily the focus for better compatibility with the windows world through a constantly improving and forward thinking wine layer.
Also, through combined pressure and possibly incentives (read bribes) to the HW manufacturers for linux compatible drivers.
Through better communication and interoperability across the two major desktops.
Finally, the combined efforts of a group of distros can concentrate efforts more wisely in tersm of help given to projects that need progression.
Very good overall.
The dot commers are amazing. I was inspired to look up an old company I use to work for. They employed about 12 people total.
They had three sales people, three support people, on tester, one secretary, three programmers. One of the programmers doubled as their sysadmin. The support staff had to work on bugs for Q&A in their time between calls. Advanced Productivity software literally had clients that were some of the biggest lawfirms around.
They made a product. They sold a product. They made money.
The guys who started the thing took out personal loans to keep it going for awhile. He passed out profits back to the employees when times were good. Honestly, if there was a place to be promoted to or a position open when I was ready to go on I probably would have never left.
Small companies can survive in the IT world. They just have to have half a clue in their heads to do it.
Fill a niche, concetrate and expand along the niche not outside it, keep employee and overhead costs low (their building was nothing grand but I had my own office).
This is basic business stuff that many companies still have no concept of.
Listen this might be good. If WMP comes to linux then perhaps IE might follow and then Outlook Express. Think it is crazy? All the apps mentioned have Solaris versions so why not?
:->
Sure, I won't use them. But the corporate folks will love it.
Also, a lot of folks scream about how hard it is to set up some of the latest greatest video/audio apps but with apt and apt for rpm I have had an easy time of it. The only problem is that when you want the newest latest greatest features like Sorennson support in mplayer.
I am just waiting for a complete quicktime Sorrenson solution. Either it needs work or my setup is weird because it did not work for me. It has not been out that long so no worries. I will probably get a version working of this early code two days before the apt for rpm folks put rpms for it on freshrpms.
Anyway, I would not use WMP or Outlook Express in Linux but there are plenty of corporate adopters that would. Not only that, I have to admit I would use IE every day in Linux, for about five minutes. Why? The corporate timesheet app online works only on IE.
Yeah, people act like only MS can get infected with a virus but there will be a major linux virus soon. It is going to happen. As linux gets more exposure more schmucks will write malicious code designed for busting up linux boxes. It is not like the Unix world is some foolproof world of rock hard servers.
After all, why did linux inherit the Unix concern for security?
Enough old-school unix guys have been bitten by the bad security in telnet and NIS and a half dozen old world Unix services with big nasty security issues.
Sure Bastille linux or RedHat secure server makes decent choice and OpenBSD is locked pretty tight right out of the box. That does not mean that it is impossible to break into those boxes. Just that it is more difficult. All you need is a one-day lag between a security issue posting on Cert and the patch to whatever software you are using coming up for your distro or OS. It can happen to any of us. It will happen to many of us.
The over-confident are always the funniest to watch when their shit hits the fan.
The honeypot thing is interesting. I have always wondered if you really get enough useful information from the attacks to warrant the time put into the systems. Somehow it just smacks of a geeky wanking waste of time. On the other hand, maybe the information from such implementations really make this worth it.
Any comments on this?
I dream of big machines.
I dream of big machines multi-processor server beasts.
I fall asleep to the soothing whirr of RAID arrays grinding in the background.
Endless lines of monotous code fill my head as I down one too many Jolts with the coffee cup still on my desk.
I hold onto the mouse like a lifeline because it is.
This is what I always wanted. This is what I got.
I am not afraid.
to bring down a monopoly such as this.
The key to Microsoft ever losing its monopoly status is two-fold.
1. Microsoft must screw up royally and continue to tick its customers off.
2. The competition (linux or Apple or whoever) has to progress significantly and continue to do well at the same time.
Otherwise the consumer will have to stick to the kludged up monopolist because there is no other choice.
The key therefore is not just Microsoft failing but other companies actually succeeding and progressing as MS fumbles.
After all even if Linux and Apple and other companies do a good job with their products the vast majority of people will continue to make the safe move and use MS products despite the alternatives.
Without both factors, the monopoly continues.
I just got my RH8 laptop singing with the new kernel and they go out and release a beta!
:->.
Well, I think I will just wait. Sit back and watch the flack and see what people like/dislike and have trouble with before I go jumping into a new release. I got a lot of the stuff they are pushing already from Nyquists apt repository. At least the stuff I wanted like fontillus and gstreamer and such.
I think RH has come a long way so far and hope to see it progress even further.
My wish list is:
Larger set of server configuration tools like NIS server, client, LDAP server and client GUI apps. A network shares app that could handle samba and nfs would be really helpful (Ximian Setup Tools had one way back in the day).
Menu-editing for individual users.
Faster hardware check tool so bootup wouldn't hang there figuring out my configuration so long.
Graphical boot messages screen so my bootup can get slower
System-wide font installer like KDE has. Fontillus installs fonts drag and drop for users.
Package Management tied to apt freshrpms repository. I like the GUI package management tool but end up using synaptic because it is not tied to apt.
I can think of other things. Can you?
What things would you like to see?
Constructive stuff not just RH sucks garbage.
Actually its Phoebe like the character from Friends.
The joke in the changelog or release notes go like this:
"You know, Chandler, you being here is the best gift I could
ask for Christmas."
"Aww. Thanks Pheebs."
"Ok, now where's my real present?"
It is right there in the link on the story if you take a look. Going to wait on this one. Got my 8.0 box running right and just updated the kernel not going to jump right now unless I get a good reason.
it won't help their project much.
_ __
Sure, they can't call the thing GNU if they keep all the proprietary stuff from the Cocoa angles in.
Apple is NOT ready to go all open-source with their stuff so its an impasse.
Can't really blame either side. The OSnews folks are plugging this in the commentaries as an example of closed-minded attitude of the GNU folks or either the greed of a silly corporation who has no clue.
I think that is the wrong response. It had to happen if the Gnu/Darwin project was going to stay true to its ideals. Still, moving Apple to be open-minded to open-source ideas is like moving a mountain with a spoon. It is happening but very slowly. I have worked for too many corporations to just get all knee-jerk and blast them immediately. They act of moving such a huge thing in a new direction is a slow process at best.
This is especially difficult when Apple is not really sure if it wants to change direction. On one hand it wants to open-source the tech or guts of the OS while at the same time protect its look and feel. It would be easier if Apple was totally sure of what it wanted.
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Makes my little cron job that changed the shell on this user's account three times a week look really mild in comparison.
That guy annoyed the hell out of me one too many times.