It's open source, that's really the only documentation any reasonably intelligent person needs. RTFS. Got it? If not, go back to your little Macintosh.
what the heck, I'll bite...
You obviously haven't had the experience of crawling through 15k+ lines of code with a distinct lack of comments, spread over a 2 dozen files. Sure anyone with enough time can plow through it and figure it all out, but why should they have to? A few well written and well placed comments would cut comprehension time dramatically. So before you tell ppl to RTFS, I think you should UYFB (use your fucking brain).
Quite frankly I haven't read one of Sterlings works that I liked OTHER than the one he co- wrote w/ Gibson (so that doesn't really count does it?). Its like Sterling has just ridden in on the cyberpunkian coat-tails of Gibson. I think his writing falls into the category of disturbingly shallow or downright horrid. This is of course... just my opinion.
My vote is for John Varley for his collections Blue Champagne and The Persistence of Vision.
I would vote for Heinlein but only if we can seperate the man into 2 parts and dump all the self gratification stuff.
The whole time I thought I was living through a Tom Clancy novel.
actually at one point one of the networks interviewed clancy by phone. interesting he said it was unbelievable and would never have thought to write it as a story. it just wasn't plausible.
even more strange was that he said it would be hard enough to find 4 ppl willing to die to do this... now... being mr. kewl informed person who writes detailed novels about terrorist attacks over his breakfast, you'd think clancy would realize that 1) each hijack was probably not done by a single person (ie more than 4 ppl willing to die) and 2) that given his own novel about muslims blowing up a russian oil field to start ww3, i thought it strange that he wouldn't believe that people, (especially muslim terrorists!!) have the mindset and resolve to do such a thing.
Yay! I wish I'd have written it as well as you just did Anonymous Daredevil.
AO is pretty buggy, I'd admit that straight up. But, I've gotten in 8hr blocks of constant play a t times (don't ask about my current job situation unless youre making an offer;| )
I was crashing quite a bit at first. 3 MB bios changes later (one i had when AO came out, did the latest, then downgraded) along with 4 videocard driver changes for my Geforce2 MX (someone suggested a downgrade to 10.40 which failed, going up to 12.90 didn't work, but 12.60 did)
The point of all this? I had to play with things quite a bit to get it working. And anyone who even glanced at the forums would have realized this was going to be the case.
Don't have the time to do what I did? Not happy with how things have been going? Drop out then.
Wait for it to get stable.
I thought it was ironic that one of the id croud was making comments on what Funcom could do better... Since I never got Q3 stable on my system!! And yes I tried tweaking $#!^ to hell and back trying to make it work.
I am not recommending this game to any of my working friends... but all you.com dropouts are another story.
This game is amazingly beautiful at times... like when you've finished a night of team hunting and everyone just sits there talking about random stuff as a virtual sun or two rises in the background. Or when you zoom all the way out and see the spires of Rome.
And not to mention amazingly funny, like when it starts raining ingame and you hear people commenting about forgetting their umbrellas or jackets... or the other day waiting for groups to form at the bridge on Arthurs Pass, where someone shouts out "who brought the marshmellows?!". And where else can you watch the silliness of primarily grown adults typing/disco over and over?
Come on people! You're paying $8 for a crappy movie here in the land of rising gas prices... $12.95 a month is nothing! Compared to the amount of enjoyment for my dollar doing most other things... AO is a pretty damn good deal.
I've liked everything I've seen so far (everything but the elusive ep 26). other than having a sense of finality (which if you think about it, makes sense for a series that is ending) I didn't think that the specials or ep 25 were any different.
Someone please step up to the mic and confirm or deny... I think this is quite similar to how gene therapy works today. If I recall correctly, we don't have a good method for sending packets of info into the body for DNA fixes, we have to rely on viruses to act as a vector (delivery system) for the fix. We remove the virus' own bad RNA and replace it with our designed RNA (the patch). Seems like cheese acts in much the same way, using a delivery system designed to do harm with a payload that helps to do good (TM) things.
Its nice that everyone got together to talk about the issues, but its not like the author's view that they were sitting down to write the magna carta of cyberspace. They were sitting down to discuss a treaty proposal the big boys have written.
Its probably going to be a long time (perhaps even after hell freezes over) before we could get most of the world to recognize everyone's copyright laws. I wouldn't hold my breath for this one...
The important thing is, that the above is nothing new. The UC system has a program that compares project's source code files for signs of cheating. It apparently goes so far as to count the number of functions, function calls, parameter types, sizes of code blocks, etc. This way you can't just borrow your buddies' program and change a few variable names. I've heard its some pretty advanced stuff (what do you expect from the people that teach us?!) and amazing to watch in action. One of my friends got called in for cheating... but as it turns out, he was retaking the class, and had used some code from the previous quarter!
Hopefully someone out there can give some more info!
Or do you mean, it was there and you didn't see it in time to sound the alarm?
When dealing w/ legal contracts such as this, nothing is hidden from the two sides making the deal. They've both been over the contract many times w/ a fine tooth comb.
Apparently someone thought it was a small enough concession to allow the contract to go through... me thinks you should join ICANN and complain there... Hate to break it to you, but complaining on/. might not be all that helpful
and the difference btwn in lang and in lib support is? I mean, if you're working w/ data, you'll most likely need REs. So why not support them?
If you are going to handle it, there are three main alternatives. 1) in lang 2) in a "standard library" or 3) a loadable library.
to the average programmer, 1 & 2 are the same. To the language designer, 2 & 3 are the same (unless of course you're the one on the design team that has to write the library:)
So I guess if you're asking why put RE support into a language? I'd say... well... its probably going to be useful. And if you're asking why I wouldn't just use C or other language libs? Well... if you haven't noticed, compared to PERL they are not so easily used.
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but have probably grown out of that phase by now.
hey speak for yourself pal, my newsgroup pR0n video scanner is cron'd just like everything else.
what the heck, I'll bite...
You obviously haven't had the experience of crawling through 15k+ lines of code with a distinct lack of comments, spread over a 2 dozen files. Sure anyone with enough time can plow through it and figure it all out, but why should they have to? A few well written and well placed comments would cut comprehension time dramatically. So before you tell ppl to RTFS, I think you should UYFB (use your fucking brain).
When I feel like that, I watch the movie Hackers. It always inspires me.
wow! I thought I was the only one =)
Its always Gibson, and then Sterling.
Quite frankly I haven't read one of Sterlings works that I liked OTHER than the one he co- wrote w/ Gibson (so that doesn't really count does it?). Its like Sterling has just ridden in on the cyberpunkian coat-tails of Gibson. I think his writing falls into the category of disturbingly shallow or downright horrid. This is of course... just my opinion.
My vote is for John Varley for his collections Blue Champagne and The Persistence of Vision.
I would vote for Heinlein but only if we can seperate the man into 2 parts and dump all the self gratification stuff.
see what your trust just got ya? Wake up.
The whole time I thought I was living through a Tom Clancy novel.
actually at one point one of the networks interviewed clancy by phone. interesting he said it was unbelievable and would never have thought to write it as a story. it just wasn't plausible.
even more strange was that he said it would be hard enough to find 4 ppl willing to die to do this... now... being mr. kewl informed person who writes detailed novels about terrorist attacks over his breakfast, you'd think clancy would realize that 1) each hijack was probably not done by a single person (ie more than 4 ppl willing to die) and 2) that given his own novel about muslims blowing up a russian oil field to start ww3, i thought it strange that he wouldn't believe that people, (especially muslim terrorists!!) have the mindset and resolve to do such a thing.
B&W? I don't recall that being a non violent game. And it would develop superiority complexes as well.
now that my friend was a work of art.
AO is pretty buggy, I'd admit that straight up. But, I've gotten in 8hr blocks of constant play a t times (don't ask about my current job situation unless youre making an offer ;| )
I was crashing quite a bit at first. 3 MB bios changes later (one i had when AO came out, did the latest, then downgraded) along with 4 videocard driver changes for my Geforce2 MX (someone suggested a downgrade to 10.40 which failed, going up to 12.90 didn't work, but 12.60 did)
The point of all this? I had to play with things quite a bit to get it working. And anyone who even glanced at the forums would have realized this was going to be the case.
Don't have the time to do what I did? Not happy with how things have been going? Drop out then. Wait for it to get stable.
I thought it was ironic that one of the id croud was making comments on what Funcom could do better... Since I never got Q3 stable on my system!! And yes I tried tweaking $#!^ to hell and back trying to make it work.
I am not recommending this game to any of my working friends... but all you .com dropouts are another story.
This game is amazingly beautiful at times... like when you've finished a night of team hunting and everyone just sits there talking about random stuff as a virtual sun or two rises in the background. Or when you zoom all the way out and see the spires of Rome.
And not to mention amazingly funny, like when it starts raining ingame and you hear people commenting about forgetting their umbrellas or jackets... or the other day waiting for groups to form at the bridge on Arthurs Pass, where someone shouts out "who brought the marshmellows?!". And where else can you watch the silliness of primarily grown adults typing /disco over and over?
Come on people! You're paying $8 for a crappy movie here in the land of rising gas prices... $12.95 a month is nothing! Compared to the amount of enjoyment for my dollar doing most other things... AO is a pretty damn good deal.
Maybe id is feeling left out of the spotlight?
How dare you say such things about love hina!!
jk :)
I've liked everything I've seen so far (everything but the elusive ep 26). other than having a sense of finality (which if you think about it, makes sense for a series that is ending) I didn't think that the specials or ep 25 were any different.
what?
being clever
like my dad often says (jokingly) "hey its only better living through modern pharmaceuticals!"
um really? ok I'd like a copy please.
Someone please step up to the mic and confirm or deny... I think this is quite similar to how gene therapy works today. If I recall correctly, we don't have a good method for sending packets of info into the body for DNA fixes, we have to rely on viruses to act as a vector (delivery system) for the fix. We remove the virus' own bad RNA and replace it with our designed RNA (the patch). Seems like cheese acts in much the same way, using a delivery system designed to do harm with a payload that helps to do good (TM) things.
Its probably going to be a long time (perhaps even after hell freezes over) before we could get most of the world to recognize everyone's copyright laws. I wouldn't hold my breath for this one...
nice. did you stay down here or head up to the valley? I'm about to graduate myself and trying to decide where to go.
I assure you, if I could find an MD drive for my comp (write music not data) I wouldn't use anything else for portable music.
True it hasn't taken off in the US, but if you've been to Japan lately, its a different story.
Does your brain have a serious design flaw?
Ok so that sounded kinda dumb.
The important thing is, that the above is nothing new. The UC system has a program that compares project's source code files for signs of cheating. It apparently goes so far as to count the number of functions, function calls, parameter types, sizes of code blocks, etc. This way you can't just borrow your buddies' program and change a few variable names. I've heard its some pretty advanced stuff (what do you expect from the people that teach us?!) and amazing to watch in action. One of my friends got called in for cheating... but as it turns out, he was retaking the class, and had used some code from the previous quarter!
Hopefully someone out there can give some more info!
more like
"request timed out"
When dealing w/ legal contracts such as this, nothing is hidden from the two sides making the deal. They've both been over the contract many times w/ a fine tooth comb.
Apparently someone thought it was a small enough concession to allow the contract to go through... me thinks you should join ICANN and complain there... Hate to break it to you, but complaining on /. might not be all that helpful
If you are going to handle it, there are three main alternatives. 1) in lang 2) in a "standard library" or 3) a loadable library.
to the average programmer, 1 & 2 are the same. To the language designer, 2 & 3 are the same (unless of course you're the one on the design team that has to write the library :)
So I guess if you're asking why put RE support into a language? I'd say... well... its probably going to be useful. And if you're asking why I wouldn't just use C or other language libs? Well... if you haven't noticed, compared to PERL they are not so easily used.