Whats the danger?!, took me under 3 sec to close the window. CTRL + ALT + DEL brought up task manager and I killed it, simple as that. Then I took a mental note not to re-visit that website again : Done, ISSUE RESOLVED, end of story. It's not a vulnerability in any way, it's a feature of java script. It's not dangerous in any way, shape or form since it dosen't run code outside it's allocated memory. Sure you'll say : HA! but N00bs will click on stuff, SO WHAT, thier computer will still not be infected, and BTW, if they are stupid enough to click everywhere : 1. They deserve whatever they get. 2. I'm pretty sure thier computers(presuming they deserve to be called that) are already turned into spam zombies.
And if I show your images/video/sound to a third and he goes to tell a fourth and fifth party that your images/video/sound are worth the money and they go on pay you to watch them(your images/video/sound) do I get a cut of your profit?..... NO. Why, because we are assuming your product will gain or lose value but thats all assumption, we can't prove anything unless we have a time machine. So if your product ain't crap people will buy it. Like when they wanted to ban txt messaging devices in the theaters because people were txt msg'ing thier friends about the movie being no good... and then what next, sue every1 who gives a bad comment, see it from the freedom of expression angle, wheter I tell you a movie is bad in person, by txt msg or by showing it to you it's all protected speech. Otherwise next it will be illegal for me to tell you the story and discribe you the movie in person because I am putting images into your head which are copyrighted.
"We cannot educate theater managers to be judges and juries in what is acceptable," he said. "Theater managers cannot distinguish between good and bad stealing."
Unfortunatly he(Mr. Theater manager) is not to judge, his job is to look for people using a camera and call the cops.
Now if there is a state or city law prohibiting the use of a camera at the movies she shall not pass go, not collect 200$ and go straight to jail after a trial with lawers, judges and jury if she is proven guilty.
Now about the stealing concern, you people need to understand the concept of stealing : You have a really cool new computer mouse allowing you to do precise motions and therefore granting you more headshots at counter-strike. Now, I come to your house and I take your mouse without your knowledge/permission/consent and I use it for my own porpuse. You can no longuer play 3d shooters because you don't have a mouse anymore. That is the action of stealing as discribed in the ten commandments. Now if I duplicate Images/Video/Sound/etc either with a camera or the the OLD DOS "copy" command and I bring those Images/Video/Sound/etc home for my private watching or redistributing or whatever, I did not deprive you of your good/property, because you can still watch or make people pay to watch your Images/Video/Sound/etc. Hence, this is not stealing you will NOT go to hell.
Now as stated earlier there maybe a law against that in your city/state/country and if you disagree with that law, get your butt elected or get somebody elected that will change it.
Remember "I, robot".... The NS-5s robots turning all evil and stuff when the red light was on(Communicating with central office for automatic updates), I'm starting to think that way back then, Isaac Asimov was really onto something:P
Maybe they'll be able to reverse Ballmer's autism soon enough, at least we hope before he decides to delete all hotmail accounts due to revenue issues or whatever.
This maybe off topic but I think there is something seriously wrong in the US with the punishment they give to prisonners, I mean, you get arrested for DUI(crime in which you put other lives at risk and you get a 23 days sentence) but for a non-violent, non-life threatning crime such and identity theft and spamming(the action of sending lots of emails(GOTO 10, you know, can't live without it)) you get 65 years + a fine. Some law makers aren't thinking. On that note, I wish to recommend a more appropriate sentence : 65 years of first line tech support:P (I meant that for Paris Hilton by the way)
-Hi, you have reached comcast tech support, my name is Paris, how can I help you? -Hi m'am, the internet no work no more. -OMG, what are we gonna do, like OMG, I'm so hot but people aren't gonna know no more z'OMG...
It's my code, I created it, I can sure as hell destroy it !!! and not the other way around.
No seriously when was the last time you heard of suicide by uncommented VB 4 code. A programmer's grammar and synthax will kill him long before his own code.
Ho! and... I for one, welcome our new uncommented, un-self-explanatory-genious JAVA lines of code overlord just in case:P
How dare they do this, imspeech the people sending emails to me(scammer or not), I need those emails, thier futile attemps to get my money is detectable at the naked eye, I need those for my weekly laughter at thier incompetence, keeps me cheered up, otherwise I might go on a killing spree or something, and paypal will be held accountable for the death and violence.
I mean why on earth would a third party have the right to request that I stop recieving my emails.
Addiction is realted to crack and heroïne. I don't know of anyone who ruined his life on e-mail, let alone instant messaging. The day you are willing to sell your T.V. or give a blowjob for your emails, ok, then, i'll be convinced that you are addicted, until then, keep the word "addicted" for real serious addictions like drugs, not emails or IM or WOW for that matter.
STFU, all of you, we all know this is slashdot and no one here gets laid nearly ever !!! Let alone watch hockey or football. Now go play world of warcraft!
No amount of accidents, illnesses, vacantions, jail time(there's computers in jail now), power outages, disasters, missed bill payments can keep a Grade A human being(slashdot reader) off the internet for 30 days.
I would need to be a in a coma for 30 days to be kept off the internet for so long, and in that case, losing my emails would not be much of a concern since when I wake up I most likely won't be able to type anymore.
Anyone grade B and under, gets Grade B and under services from CEOs sorry. Beside, you good ppl mentioned above that even if the service was free, Lycos was still making money from advertisement, well no, because she didin't use the service for 30 days, therefore, she wasen't being advertised to.
Not worth 5 minutes of your life to make a backup of.... not worth 5 minutes complaining about losing it then.
If her emails were soooo important, she should have made a copy.
Note that when you do so(complain), you also waste 5 minutes of somebody else his life
It's about time a manager shows the customers who the boss is.
What happend to you ppl, having feelings for a n00b, what happend to the BOFH in you..... I know you're all using vista right.... you've been brainwashed by it into user friendlyness where computers are fun.
And people soon will, They won't resist buying generic Viagra from the spammers and they'll be taking 3 a day, and... BOOM HEADSHOT !!!!!!!!!!, huh!, I mean heart attack:P
Accountability !!!
If I leave my car unattended with all doors opened, engine running in front of a bank. If this bank gets robbed, and my car is used by the robber as a getaway car, I'm accountable in front of a judge..... right ??!?!
Why not the same with computers left unprotected and unattended ?
Microsoft made everything so dumb proof, they have allowed n00bs to use a computer without having to learn anything. In that act they promoted stupidity and inneficiency. Not to mention that all their errors messages are like "Something not working, contact your administrator.", they never discribe the problem as they should, so the person can look into the problem himself instead they call me right away. And all this promotion of the "none thinking society" as made people even more stupid, lowered the average IQ etc etc. And now everytime some1 calls me to fix thier comp. and have to do it for free and explain what im doing(bane of my existance right there) because it's a member of my immediate family, I think of Microsoft who made O.S.'s. for people who shoulden't use them.
I mean, how would you like it if your country allowed people(i mean every1 aged from 5 to 125, blind or not) to drive without a drivers license and you have to repair every1's car for free, on your spare time!!! You'd be pretty angry at some politians woulden't you be? To top it all, see it this way, everytime I do support some1 and I witness stupidity in all it's glory, I mean I once told some1 over the phone to close all opened windows, and he got up, placed the phone down and went to close all the windows around the house, or I tell some1 to look for an icon on his desktop and I hear paper moving, It makes me lose faith in humanity!!!!!!! I'm pretty sure that the rise in the past 10 years of schools shooting and people snapping out and going on an homicidal rage with AK47s can be blamed on M$.
Hey, wait a minute, does that mean that if we start to upgrade network cards with this new technology we will all get a better ping at WOW and counter-strike ?:P
Think of job security also. The.NET job is for a big company, think of the future, you'll have the possibility to get promotions and stuff. As opposed to working for a small company where you have to fight to get a raise and where 12 guys are employed, giving you no possibility to become a manager or something to make more money.
Whats the danger?!, took me under 3 sec to close the window. CTRL + ALT + DEL brought up task manager and I killed it, simple as that. Then I took a mental note not to re-visit that website again : Done, ISSUE RESOLVED, end of story. It's not a vulnerability in any way, it's a feature of java script. It's not dangerous in any way, shape or form since it dosen't run code outside it's allocated memory. Sure you'll say : HA! but N00bs will click on stuff, SO WHAT, thier computer will still not be infected, and BTW, if they are stupid enough to click everywhere :
1. They deserve whatever they get.
2. I'm pretty sure thier computers(presuming they deserve to be called that) are already turned into spam zombies.
And if I show your images/video/sound to a third and he goes to tell a fourth and fifth party that your images/video/sound are worth the money and they go on pay you to watch them(your images/video/sound) do I get a cut of your profit? ..... NO. Why, because we are assuming your product will gain or lose value but thats all assumption, we can't prove anything unless we have a time machine. So if your product ain't crap people will buy it. Like when they wanted to ban txt messaging devices in the theaters because people were txt msg'ing thier friends about the movie being no good ... and then what next, sue every1 who gives a bad comment, see it from the freedom of expression angle, wheter I tell you a movie is bad in person, by txt msg or by showing it to you it's all protected speech. Otherwise next it will be illegal for me to tell you the story and discribe you the movie in person because I am putting images into your head which are copyrighted.
"We cannot educate theater managers to be judges and juries in what is acceptable," he said. "Theater managers cannot distinguish between good and bad stealing."
Unfortunatly he(Mr. Theater manager) is not to judge, his job is to look for people using a camera and call the cops.
Now if there is a state or city law prohibiting the use of a camera at the movies she shall not pass go, not collect 200$ and go straight to jail after a trial with lawers, judges and jury if she is proven guilty.
Now about the stealing concern, you people need to understand the concept of stealing : You have a really cool new computer mouse allowing you to do precise motions and therefore granting you more headshots at counter-strike. Now, I come to your house and I take your mouse without your knowledge/permission/consent and I use it for my own porpuse. You can no longuer play 3d shooters because you don't have a mouse anymore. That is the action of stealing as discribed in the ten commandments. Now if I duplicate Images/Video/Sound/etc either with a camera or the the OLD DOS "copy" command and I bring those Images/Video/Sound/etc home for my private watching or redistributing or whatever, I did not deprive you of your good/property, because you can still watch or make people pay to watch your Images/Video/Sound/etc. Hence, this is not stealing you will NOT go to hell.
Now as stated earlier there maybe a law against that in your city/state/country and if you disagree with that law, get your butt elected or get somebody elected that will change it.
Remember "I, robot" .... The NS-5s robots turning all evil and stuff when the red light was on(Communicating with central office for automatic updates), I'm starting to think that way back then, Isaac Asimov was really onto something :P
Homer : Lisa, in this house we respect the laws of thermo-dynamics, go to your room!
Maybe they'll be able to reverse Ballmer's autism soon enough, at least we hope before he decides to delete all hotmail accounts due to revenue issues or whatever.
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Developpers, developpers, developpers
This maybe off topic but I think there is something seriously wrong in the US with the punishment they give to prisonners, :P (I meant that for Paris Hilton by the way)
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I mean, you get arrested for DUI(crime in which you put other lives at risk and you get a 23 days sentence) but for a non-violent, non-life threatning crime such and identity theft and spamming(the action of sending lots of emails(GOTO 10, you know, can't live without it)) you get 65 years + a fine.
Some law makers aren't thinking. On that note, I wish to recommend a more appropriate sentence : 65 years of first line tech support
-Hi, you have reached comcast tech support, my name is Paris, how can I help you?
-Hi m'am, the internet no work no more.
-OMG, what are we gonna do, like OMG, I'm so hot but people aren't gonna know no more z'OMG
It's my code, I created it, I can sure as hell destroy it !!! and not the other way around.
... I for one, welcome our new uncommented, un-self-explanatory-genious JAVA lines of code overlord just in case :P
No seriously when was the last time you heard of suicide by uncommented VB 4 code. A programmer's grammar and synthax will kill him long before his own code.
Ho! and
Pfff.... Ms. Echange ....
:P
No need to find a flaw, Ms exchange will crash on it's own.
And I would like to had : "Only two things are infinite : the Yahoo email storage space and human stupidity ... and i'm not sure about the former"
That lawyer from the Simpons must be like : "This will be best lawsuit case I ever had since the never ending story :)"
How dare they do this, imspeech the people sending emails to me(scammer or not), I need those emails, thier futile attemps to get my money is detectable at the naked eye, I need those for my weekly laughter at thier incompetence, keeps me cheered up, otherwise I might go on a killing spree or something, and paypal will be held accountable for the death and violence.
I mean why on earth would a third party have the right to request that I stop recieving my emails.
Addiction is realted to crack and heroïne. I don't know of anyone who ruined his life on e-mail, let alone instant messaging. The day you are willing to sell your T.V. or give a blowjob for your emails, ok, then, i'll be convinced that you are addicted, until then, keep the word "addicted" for real serious addictions like drugs, not emails or IM or WOW for that matter.
STFU, all of you, we all know this is slashdot and no one here gets laid nearly ever !!! Let alone watch hockey or football. Now go play world of warcraft!
No amount of accidents, illnesses, vacantions, jail time(there's computers in jail now), power outages, disasters, missed bill payments can keep a Grade A human being(slashdot reader) off the internet for 30 days.
I would need to be a in a coma for 30 days to be kept off the internet for so long, and in that case, losing my emails would not be much of a concern since when I wake up I most likely won't be able to type anymore.
Anyone grade B and under, gets Grade B and under services from CEOs sorry. Beside, you good ppl mentioned above that even if the service was free, Lycos was still making money from advertisement, well no, because she didin't use the service for 30 days, therefore, she wasen't being advertised to.
Not worth 5 minutes of your life to make a backup of .... not worth 5 minutes complaining about losing it then.
..... I know you're all using vista right .... you've been brainwashed by it into user friendlyness where computers are fun.
If her emails were soooo important, she should have made a copy.
Note that when you do so(complain), you also waste 5 minutes of somebody else his life
It's about time a manager shows the customers who the boss is.
What happend to you ppl, having feelings for a n00b, what happend to the BOFH in you
And people soon will, ... BOOM HEADSHOT !!!!!!!!!!, huh!, I mean heart attack :P
They won't resist buying generic Viagra from the spammers and they'll be taking 3 a day, and
Accountability !!! ..... right ??!?!
If I leave my car unattended with all doors opened, engine running in front of a bank. If this bank gets robbed, and my car is used by the robber as a getaway car, I'm accountable in front of a judge
Why not the same with computers left unprotected and unattended ?
Simple question really
Microsoft made everything so dumb proof, they have allowed n00bs to use a computer without having to learn anything. In that act they promoted stupidity and inneficiency. Not to mention that all their errors messages are like "Something not working, contact your administrator.", they never discribe the problem as they should, so the person can look into the problem himself instead they call me right away. And all this promotion of the "none thinking society" as made people even more stupid, lowered the average IQ etc etc. And now everytime some1 calls me to fix thier comp. and have to do it for free and explain what im doing(bane of my existance right there) because it's a member of my immediate family, I think of Microsoft who made O.S.'s. for people who shoulden't use them. I mean, how would you like it if your country allowed people(i mean every1 aged from 5 to 125, blind or not) to drive without a drivers license and you have to repair every1's car for free, on your spare time!!! You'd be pretty angry at some politians woulden't you be? To top it all, see it this way, everytime I do support some1 and I witness stupidity in all it's glory, I mean I once told some1 over the phone to close all opened windows, and he got up, placed the phone down and went to close all the windows around the house, or I tell some1 to look for an icon on his desktop and I hear paper moving, It makes me lose faith in humanity!!!!!!! I'm pretty sure that the rise in the past 10 years of schools shooting and people snapping out and going on an homicidal rage with AK47s can be blamed on M$.
eve-online .... n'uff said!
Hey, wait a minute, does that mean that if we start to upgrade network cards with this new technology we will all get a better ping at WOW and counter-strike ? :P
Computer security 101
AS soon as you get physical access, security has been breached.
Simple, remove all laws involving a computer or data .... we'll know it's not a crime at that point :)
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That being said
The article mentions reporting the incidents to a "receptive law enforcement community with a well-informed judiciary"
Not happening!!! There is no such thing!
Think of job security also. The .NET job is for a big company, think of the future, you'll have the possibility to get promotions and stuff. As opposed to working for a small company where you have to fight to get a raise and where 12 guys are employed, giving you no possibility to become a manager or something to make more money.