Testing, development kits, more staff to work on each port...not to mention the porting itself. It isn't as simple as just clicking a button, it's actually a fairly intense process. It's safe to say that hiring people who know what they are doing when it comes to the porting process doesn't come cheap, either.
Half of why movies are so expensive is actors and scriptwriters unions and the hollywood monopoly
Feh. Seriously? Was that necessary to bring in to this conversation? You REALLY think unions are the reason why actors get paid so much?
By the way, there are a TON of movies made on a shoestring budget that rival anything out of Hollywood. I Like Killing Flies is a move that is a perfect example of that. Directed, Produced, Edited, AND Filmed all by one guy.
District 9 is another great example, although on a much larger scale. Do you know how much District 9's budget was? Go ahead, take a guess. $30 Million. Compare the visuals to that of any big-budget CGI laden film.
'm old enough to rembember when one teenager could write a game on his home computer with a budget of zero
Check out Kongregate, Newgrounds, etc. There are also a TON of games on XBLA/PSN, as well as very popular games made by folks using the XNA (I Made a Game with Zombies in it) and pretty much no cash.
In return, Firefox is the most unstable program in common use. Every new version includes "stability improvements", but the instability has gotten considerably worse since version 3.5.2. Firefox is so unstable it regularly crashes Windows XP, although not Linux, apparently.
I have the exact opposite experience in my personal use...Firefox more or less never crashes on my XP machine, yet crashes at least a couple of times a week on my Dell Mini 9 with Ubuntu 9.10 installed and kept up to date. True, the desktop XP machine has 4GB of ram while the Mini 9 is only rocking out with 2GB, but all of my "heavy" internet browsing and viewing is done on the desktop. Firefox on my Mini 9 is used primarily for Slashdot, [H]ard|Forum, Facebook, and Kongregate.
I don't do web development or anything, but I do have 11 plugins running in Firefox as well as regularly reaching 15-20 open tabs at a time...and I've never had a memory issue since 3.5 was released (running on 4 GB of DDR2800 ram). What is it that you folks are doing that causes Firefox to have such a massive memory leak still? Are you not running the latest version? Are you trying to use it to cure cancer?
I don't mean to sound like a douche, I'm genuinely interested...I'm just curious why so many people have this problem with similar circumstances as myself, yet I don't encounter any of these issues.
So what do you call it in Mario Galaxy when you twirl the Wiimote to do a spin-jump? How about in Wii Tennis when you flick your wrist to hit the ball?
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the system. Mario Galaxy, the Okami rerelease, Madworld, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, HotD: Overkill, the Metroid Prime Trilogy...there are some awesome games for it. But don't deny that most of the motion controller usage is done just because it can be.
New Super Mario Bros. Wii is the perfect example of this...you have to shake the controller in order to pick up objects...why not just let us use the trigger beneath the D-Pad?
Perhaps I'm remembering wrong, but during that window weren't you able to purchase a real VHS copy for some absurdly large amount of money (low triple digits)?
We use the hell out of our Netflix subscription...6 out at a time, and sometimes even that doesn't feel like enough. It works out well though...she tends to rent interesting documentaries and sci-fi, while I tend to rent the classics she hasn't seen and horror movies she hasn't seen. We both work together on choosing anime and TV series.
Having a massive selection of b-horror movies and silent films ready and waiting is awesome.
I have to tell you I'm SO glad you think you've outsmarted me. I think that's just great. Let me tell you a simple analogy about what's happening here:
Well...I wasn't trying to outsmart you, but rather bring you back down to reality so we could have a civil conversation. But go ahead, I'm listening.
You can tell (from my user ID if nothing else) that I'm not a young man. As a matter of fact, I'm an aging white man. And I REGULARLY play basketball with young black guys. Yea, they look at me and think, "Oh, old fucking white guy. I'll destroy him." Take a WILD guess what actually happens 9 times out of 10. I kick their ass.
So... I was right about the old and grumpy part then?
So, you thinking you're all clever and know where I'm located (you don't) gratifies me to no small degree.
You were already so worked up, it looked like a fun idea to get you even more pissed (which, let's be honest, worked pretty well.)
Yea, keep thinking you're smart, and that the site you use is actually giving you correct info. I'll just keep sitting back and laughing at you.
Correct info or not, if nothing else it tells me how many people come to the site and what they click on. Even if everything else is wrong, those two parts are the most important anyways. I'm glad you are taking time out of your busy basketball schedule to think about little ol' me though.
Oh, you should try basketball, or some form of exercise sometime.
I wish I could still play basketball, or any type of exercise for that matter. At the age of 25, I have vertabrae fusion (L3-L4), a messed up left knee, a rotater cuff injury, never-fully-healed navicular fractures in both wrists, and countless other aches and pains. Considering I don't take any pain meds (not even aspirin), it's a wonder I can still move. I can still get on a recumbent bike a little bit each day, but that's about it.
Hiking accidents can cause a ton of problems.
At the very least, get your fat girlfriend to get off the couch and do more than fetch you ice cream.
Considering she works 80 or so hours a week (the life of a teacher is a busy one), my dairy product needs aren't really her concern. I'm quite capable of getting it myself.
There was once a time that I actually thought that I could tell someone's location by their IP address. Then I realized what a dunce I was. Don't you think it's about time you woke up too?
http://www.statcounter.com/ Invaluable resource for tracking stats for websites. Since there is an official Wordpress plugin, setting it up for me was super simple and fast...been using it since the day we went live. Very useful for determining what people enjoy looking at on our site and what they ignore.
And what's REALLY REALLY fucking creepy is that you're STALKING me.
I agree with you here. Sony's decision to include controllers that feed more location data was a great idea. The tech doesn't seem to be far along enough to do it all via optical sensors quite yet, as evidenced by the accuracy of Sony's offering compared to Natal.
Does anyone know if that 4 cm accuracy box for Natal is their TARGET, or where the tech is currently sitting?
Honestly, I think Microsoft is releasing Natal as a proof-of-concept for the technology so that they can improve it and sell it to other sectors (low-cost motion capture, sports training enhancement, supplementary surgical training, etc.)
I could be completely off base here, but.....holding your arms/hands and standing in a way that resembles how you hold a rifle is a possibility...although that approaches the "why bother" category with immeasurable speed...
Note in my original post that I said the tech is still in the baby steps phase. How about once the system reaches accuracy to within half a millimeter? A thousandth of a millimeter? Less?
It obviously wouldn't be the only tool a training surgeon would use, but it would be a part of their toolbox.
...is an interesting new way to communicate. I could think of MANY applications for this tech, especially once we get out of the "early" days and into the "refined" zone. Training for surgery, advanced sports virtualization, motion-capture for the amateur crowd, eye line tracking for race car/drag car drivers (for training and teaching purposes)...hell, even the lock on your front door (gang signs incoming!)
It is, of course, possible that Natal will be a flop...but this tech could have far ranging implications outside the gaming space. Time will tell, I suppose...
"Surely this convenience entices you? Pornography and online gaming at hundreds the times of speed of your normal advertising service provider! It's so easy to use, and the surgery to implant it at the base of your skull is so painless it's no wonder I'm number one!" - The www.yzzerdd.com
I can't RTFA due to work firewall (yet they allow Slashdot? wtf?), but it's possible that both screens are viewable in the eyepiece either the way you mentioned (choosing which lens to view) or they could both be shown at the same time. It's also possible that the eyepiece shows a "middle" view, situated between the two lenses. The last possibility is that the eyepiece shows a 3D image as it will show up on a screen, and included in the eyepiece is whatever polarizing lens is necessary to view the image.::shrug:: dunno
Doesn't the $12,000 price tag rather defeat any savings in memory cards?
I dunno...P2's start around $450+ for the smaller sizes...I would rather spend the money saved elsewhere. Then again, if you are already spending $12,000 on a camera...
Slashdot Mirror
Completely off topic.
Dude, your drawing style is awesome. I'm gonna pick up one or two of your books, my fiance loves stuff like this:-)
Testing, development kits, more staff to work on each port...not to mention the porting itself. It isn't as simple as just clicking a button, it's actually a fairly intense process. It's safe to say that hiring people who know what they are doing when it comes to the porting process doesn't come cheap, either.
Half of why movies are so expensive is actors and scriptwriters unions and the hollywood monopoly
Feh. Seriously? Was that necessary to bring in to this conversation? You REALLY think unions are the reason why actors get paid so much?
By the way, there are a TON of movies made on a shoestring budget that rival anything out of Hollywood. I Like Killing Flies is a move that is a perfect example of that. Directed, Produced, Edited, AND Filmed all by one guy.
District 9 is another great example, although on a much larger scale. Do you know how much District 9's budget was? Go ahead, take a guess. $30 Million. Compare the visuals to that of any big-budget CGI laden film.
'm old enough to rembember when one teenager could write a game on his home computer with a budget of zero
Check out Kongregate, Newgrounds, etc. There are also a TON of games on XBLA/PSN, as well as very popular games made by folks using the XNA (I Made a Game with Zombies in it) and pretty much no cash.
Both very good points!
In return, Firefox is the most unstable program in common use. Every new version includes "stability improvements", but the instability has gotten considerably worse since version 3.5.2. Firefox is so unstable it regularly crashes Windows XP, although not Linux, apparently.
I have the exact opposite experience in my personal use...Firefox more or less never crashes on my XP machine, yet crashes at least a couple of times a week on my Dell Mini 9 with Ubuntu 9.10 installed and kept up to date. True, the desktop XP machine has 4GB of ram while the Mini 9 is only rocking out with 2GB, but all of my "heavy" internet browsing and viewing is done on the desktop. Firefox on my Mini 9 is used primarily for Slashdot, [H]ard|Forum, Facebook, and Kongregate.
I don't do web development or anything, but I do have 11 plugins running in Firefox as well as regularly reaching 15-20 open tabs at a time...and I've never had a memory issue since 3.5 was released (running on 4 GB of DDR2800 ram). What is it that you folks are doing that causes Firefox to have such a massive memory leak still? Are you not running the latest version? Are you trying to use it to cure cancer?
I don't mean to sound like a douche, I'm genuinely interested...I'm just curious why so many people have this problem with similar circumstances as myself, yet I don't encounter any of these issues.
Agreed. The Wii version of Okami makes you shake the Wiimote to attack....in an attack/combo heavy game.
WTF.
I see where you are going with that, and with the right technology it COULD work...but at that point why not just use a keyboard/mouse?
BTW, something similar to this has already been done...long ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-Force
Google image search u-force to see pics
So what do you call it in Mario Galaxy when you twirl the Wiimote to do a spin-jump? How about in Wii Tennis when you flick your wrist to hit the ball?
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the system. Mario Galaxy, the Okami rerelease, Madworld, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, HotD: Overkill, the Metroid Prime Trilogy...there are some awesome games for it. But don't deny that most of the motion controller usage is done just because it can be.
New Super Mario Bros. Wii is the perfect example of this...you have to shake the controller in order to pick up objects...why not just let us use the trigger beneath the D-Pad?
Perhaps I'm remembering wrong, but during that window weren't you able to purchase a real VHS copy for some absurdly large amount of money (low triple digits)?
We use the hell out of our Netflix subscription...6 out at a time, and sometimes even that doesn't feel like enough. It works out well though...she tends to rent interesting documentaries and sci-fi, while I tend to rent the classics she hasn't seen and horror movies she hasn't seen. We both work together on choosing anime and TV series.
Having a massive selection of b-horror movies and silent films ready and waiting is awesome.
Artificially deny them as well...just artifically doing it isn't enough!
Artifically deny your customer the ability to buy your product. They'll love you for it!
Feh.
I have to tell you I'm SO glad you think you've outsmarted me. I think that's just great. Let me tell you a simple analogy about what's happening here:
Well...I wasn't trying to outsmart you, but rather bring you back down to reality so we could have a civil conversation. But go ahead, I'm listening.
You can tell (from my user ID if nothing else) that I'm not a young man. As a matter of fact, I'm an aging white man. And I REGULARLY play basketball with young black guys. Yea, they look at me and think, "Oh, old fucking white guy. I'll destroy him." Take a WILD guess what actually happens 9 times out of 10. I kick their ass.
So... I was right about the old and grumpy part then?
So, you thinking you're all clever and know where I'm located (you don't) gratifies me to no small degree.
You were already so worked up, it looked like a fun idea to get you even more pissed (which, let's be honest, worked pretty well.)
Yea, keep thinking you're smart, and that the site you use is actually giving you correct info. I'll just keep sitting back and laughing at you.
Correct info or not, if nothing else it tells me how many people come to the site and what they click on. Even if everything else is wrong, those two parts are the most important anyways. I'm glad you are taking time out of your busy basketball schedule to think about little ol' me though.
Oh, you should try basketball, or some form of exercise sometime.
I wish I could still play basketball, or any type of exercise for that matter. At the age of 25, I have vertabrae fusion (L3-L4), a messed up left knee, a rotater cuff injury, never-fully-healed navicular fractures in both wrists, and countless other aches and pains. Considering I don't take any pain meds (not even aspirin), it's a wonder I can still move. I can still get on a recumbent bike a little bit each day, but that's about it.
Hiking accidents can cause a ton of problems.
At the very least, get your fat girlfriend to get off the couch and do more than fetch you ice cream.
Considering she works 80 or so hours a week (the life of a teacher is a busy one), my dairy product needs aren't really her concern. I'm quite capable of getting it myself.
There was once a time that I actually thought that I could tell someone's location by their IP address. Then I realized what a dunce I was. Don't you think it's about time you woke up too?
http://www.statcounter.com/ Invaluable resource for tracking stats for websites. Since there is an official Wordpress plugin, setting it up for me was super simple and fast...been using it since the day we went live. Very useful for determining what people enjoy looking at on our site and what they ignore.
And what's REALLY REALLY fucking creepy is that you're STALKING me.
See my above response.
That is utterly lame, gross and pathetic.
And yet here you are, continuing to talk to me.
I agree with you here. Sony's decision to include controllers that feed more location data was a great idea. The tech doesn't seem to be far along enough to do it all via optical sensors quite yet, as evidenced by the accuracy of Sony's offering compared to Natal.
Does anyone know if that 4 cm accuracy box for Natal is their TARGET, or where the tech is currently sitting?
Honestly, I think Microsoft is releasing Natal as a proof-of-concept for the technology so that they can improve it and sell it to other sectors (low-cost motion capture, sports training enhancement, supplementary surgical training, etc.)
I could be completely off base here, but... ..holding your arms/hands and standing in a way that resembles how you hold a rifle is a possibility...although that approaches the "why bother" category with immeasurable speed...
Muramasa: The Demon Blade.
That is all.
Note in my original post that I said the tech is still in the baby steps phase. How about once the system reaches accuracy to within half a millimeter? A thousandth of a millimeter? Less?
It obviously wouldn't be the only tool a training surgeon would use, but it would be a part of their toolbox.
...is an interesting new way to communicate. I could think of MANY applications for this tech, especially once we get out of the "early" days and into the "refined" zone. Training for surgery, advanced sports virtualization, motion-capture for the amateur crowd, eye line tracking for race car/drag car drivers (for training and teaching purposes)...hell, even the lock on your front door (gang signs incoming!)
It is, of course, possible that Natal will be a flop...but this tech could have far ranging implications outside the gaming space. Time will tell, I suppose...
"Surely this convenience entices you? Pornography and online gaming at hundreds the times of speed of your normal advertising service provider! It's so easy to use, and the surgery to implant it at the base of your skull is so painless it's no wonder I'm number one!" - The www.yzzerdd.com
I can't RTFA due to work firewall (yet they allow Slashdot? wtf?), but it's possible that both screens are viewable in the eyepiece either the way you mentioned (choosing which lens to view) or they could both be shown at the same time. It's also possible that the eyepiece shows a "middle" view, situated between the two lenses. The last possibility is that the eyepiece shows a 3D image as it will show up on a screen, and included in the eyepiece is whatever polarizing lens is necessary to view the image. ::shrug:: dunno
Doesn't the $12,000 price tag rather defeat any savings in memory cards?
I dunno...P2's start around $450+ for the smaller sizes...I would rather spend the money saved elsewhere. Then again, if you are already spending $12,000 on a camera...
3D hot grits?