Aye to that. I bring along my laptop and surf only for a few reasons: 1. the lecturer is coherent only in 5x speed. 2. I have a goddamn assignment due in 2 hours and if not for the laptop and the wifi you can bet I'm skipping classes. 3. the lecture is junked. I'm only there so that I wouldn't miss out important tidbits and administrative stuff.
I've seen people playing WoW at the front row, or watching anime with both earplugs inserted, 4 friends on the left and right looking, and 20 more behind getting distracted. Those are the types that are BAD. Arrgh.
1) Normal users don't care about signed code, as they happily click on "Yes, download this!" without bothering to check anything.
As a matter of fact, I cannot see how ANY browser can prevent against this. As many posters here have stated, any moron can get a Verisign signature and sign off a nasty virus. The ordinary user will just gladly click OK. Or if they called up tech support or a poor tech relative/friend: "Yes yes just click OK, it's safe. (Stop bothering me)".
Stupidity clearly wins. Always.
Let's talk about EDUCATING users. Why are we geeks better off? Some of us don't even bother with these stupid signatures. That is because we are consciously aware of what we are trying to download, or what sites we are visiting and what it's trying to do.
In contrast, your average user will just sit down, look for the big E icon that says "Internet Explorer". Cry if it's missing. Else enter "www.pr0n.com", and click Yes to everything that blocks the way to their daily pr0n.
Computer use in the school is still a fairly new tool. We aren't adept at producing good on-screen content for learning, yet.
In fact, most school teachers aren't making a conscious effort to fully utilise computers for education in a proper manner. All kids get to dabble in are fanciful 'educational' programs, which IMO are just 99% spoonfeeding. A book will do many times better.
Of course, we can't deny that interactivity of these educational programs can spice things up and raise interest. However it gives no credit to the potential of the computer/Internet! Once the kids reach home, they are back to IRC, IM, shoot-em alls. How many kids want to listen to a talking periodic table or mindlessly key in answers to 1+1 at home?
I believe someone mentioned in a post further down: teach them more, teach them to really use the computer. Maybe learning the bash shell can be a bit nasty, but there are certainly limitless other things such googling for information, doing real research, programming, photo/video editing. In this age, these activities are not as outrageous for kids as we think.
15mb is a lot, when you are a born multitasking freak, and you don't happen to own a fast computer with plenty of ram ( >512 ). Same for Firefox, it seems to eat up plenty of memory once I have been using it for a long time.
I think we are missing the point here. With all the attempts at decrypting the ban list and publishing the plain text, one point they are trying to prove is that these censorware products simply SUCK. They are way too many porn sites popping up per the hour compared to a new ban list coming up. They are blocking site on reasons of not pornography, violence, but simply because the company does not like these sites, like PEacefire.
I gather these products have to be politically correct, so blocking out many activitist, racist, political-bashing etc sites is part of their job. But are we willing to bring up our child in a perfect haven? The moment he steps into society he is gonna get the f_ing culture shock of his life. I do not agree with showing a porn magazine a day to your children, but we cannot keep them pure forever. We want to have creative, thinking people who are willing to do the unthinkable and stand up for themselves in society. People who spent half their live watching only barney and friends ain't gonna make the mark.
Which brings the point, what in the f_ing world are parents here for? You think god or any almighty being created the basic family unit for fun? The purpose of the parents or being parents is to guide our children. Expose them to the appropriate, and shelter them accordingly to situation, time and age. How to you think human rights activitist themselves became one? If they had spent their life blind from abuse of human rights out there on the streets, they won't have give a damn now. Parental guidance and censorship are dynamic, stupid censorware products aren't.
Stop blaming the damn product for not doing its job when you ain't doing yours as a parent.
Since Microsoft has been trying to encourage companies from switching over to unix, maybe someone should run a benchmark on NT against Solaris, or any other commercial tested-and-trusted unix.
Results might be interesting, if it doesn't get skewed/screwed again.
God damn mother sucker why can't you people just simply insist that in your opinion windows is more capable? Instead of screaming out loud who sucks and who rules, as if the damn world's future depends on windows/microsoft/windows2000 to save us from some armageddon. Come one trolls, learn to voice your opinions properly
Interesting.. sounds like some kiddies hooked on past x-files episodes. Particularly the hybrid part. It need not be a hoax when an alient looks like humans. There is a possibility that we evolved from them, ie they seeded life on earth, or just human life, or that they evolved from us. Maybe some distant past, we had better technology. Some disaster threatens to wipe us out, so we sent our a small group of humans out into space, with the technology to terraform and create their own society. Now they come back to see if we survived. The difference in features could be that we evolved and adapted, surviving the apocalypse. But of course, we have been seeing way too many humanoid shaped aliens these days.
Best way I've found is to just wham your keyboard. Of course don't just hit the alpha part. Hit everything. Get the resultant string, and remove characters here and there to get the length you want. Tada!
Write it down. Stick it onto your eyeball. Read it and recall it for an hour, or more if needed. Log on to the account every minute. Burn the paper.
There. Of course trouble comes with many different accounts with different passwords.
What the heck this is turning into a Chinese class. I think this was just meant at a pun on BSOD.
It's not the user-base that I think we should look for in this adoption, but the publicity. We still have a butt-load of people out there who doesn't know what linux is, can't be bothered when Windows works for them, afraid of anything not Windows... bla bla bla. This publicity, should it happen, will get Linux some deserved media attention. Give Gates something to worry about. And of course change the FOF's stupid comment on Linux being fringe.
Windows is simply getting too much media attention. That is why other companies develop for windows only, cause everybody want their products to be in the spotlight.
Someone might want to correct me but can these spammers be systematically spamming aaaaaaaaa to zzzzzzzz? Might explain why my unrevealed emails too get spammed for no reason. Unless of course those companies sell out our address.
it isn't just about running tons of layers of protection and firewalls. No point in that when those idiot companies can simply quit violating our privacy rights.
And now we ask for net-connected fridge and toasters? Same problem is gonna happen, with stupid companies gathering your eating habits and grocery list.
What now? Everyone builds a lead/iron box in his backyard and stuff all our electronic equipment into it? Might as well enclose our whole house in it. Might help twart off robberies and stuff. Maybe add a couple of turrets and reinforce it.
And viola! We have the ultimate personal fallout,bomb,terrorist,privacy shelter.
It isn't the trust of the users to blame, but that the companies abused the trust given by their customers. We download software from the net because we think it is useful and we trust that it will do something useful. Even if it does shit, we trust it does it's shit without violating that trust. But no. Stupid companies abuse the fact that more and more people are now connected to the net through a personal computer. Personal information are stored there, and these twits greedily collect the information without even asking. Why? No asking needed! Programs can do stuff without alerting us. Stuff can flow out of our modems without us realising what exactly is sent. And of course we trust that good information is being sent. These dumbheads are not only creating privacy problems, they are degrading the mutual trust we created amongst humans. Of course it all points to the readily-available internet access. What can we do about it? We can't thrash the net and thrash years of work. We can't always create new techniques to counter such retarded programs. Having layers and layers of protection will only slow down our work, and create a bunch of paranoid users. Let's openly bash these violators and show them our trust is not to be taken for granted. (I know this doesn't have to do with TRUSTe but its all boils down to our privacy isn't it)
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The rebel base looks pretty well camouflaged, anyone spotted it?
We could just ask Bruce Willis.
Does it run Linu.. I mean does it use Firefox? Maybe some engineer got itchy after trying 1.5 at home and decided to spread the interstellar love.
Aye to that. I bring along my laptop and surf only for a few reasons: 1. the lecturer is coherent only in 5x speed. 2. I have a goddamn assignment due in 2 hours and if not for the laptop and the wifi you can bet I'm skipping classes. 3. the lecture is junked. I'm only there so that I wouldn't miss out important tidbits and administrative stuff.
I've seen people playing WoW at the front row, or watching anime with both earplugs inserted, 4 friends on the left and right looking, and 20 more behind getting distracted. Those are the types that are BAD. Arrgh.
You mean you have managed to decipher that sentence? I had thought it was Klingonese. Damn Firefox doesn't have the encoding for it.
1) Normal users don't care about signed code, as
they happily click on "Yes, download this!"
without bothering to check anything.
As a matter of fact, I cannot see how ANY browser can prevent against this. As many posters here have stated, any moron can get a Verisign signature and sign off a nasty virus. The ordinary user will just gladly click OK. Or if they called up tech support or a poor tech relative/friend: "Yes yes just click OK, it's safe. (Stop bothering me)".
Stupidity clearly wins. Always.
Let's talk about EDUCATING users. Why are we geeks better off? Some of us don't even bother with these stupid signatures. That is because we are consciously aware of what we are trying to download, or what sites we are visiting and what it's trying to do.
In contrast, your average user will just sit down, look for the big E icon that says "Internet Explorer". Cry if it's missing. Else enter "www.pr0n.com", and click Yes to everything that blocks the way to their daily pr0n.
Ogg isn't strange. No. In fact there are good encoders and decoder support for it in Windows, and plenty users.
Computer use in the school is still a fairly new tool. We aren't adept at producing good on-screen content for learning, yet.
In fact, most school teachers aren't making a conscious effort to fully utilise computers for education in a proper manner. All kids get to dabble in are fanciful 'educational' programs, which IMO are just 99% spoonfeeding. A book will do many times better.
Of course, we can't deny that interactivity of these educational programs can spice things up and raise interest. However it gives no credit to the potential of the computer/Internet! Once the kids reach home, they are back to IRC, IM, shoot-em alls. How many kids want to listen to a talking periodic table or mindlessly key in answers to 1+1 at home?
I believe someone mentioned in a post further down: teach them more, teach them to really use the computer. Maybe learning the bash shell can be a bit nasty, but there are certainly limitless other things such googling for information, doing real research, programming, photo/video editing. In this age, these activities are not as outrageous for kids as we think.
15mb is a lot, when you are a born multitasking freak, and you don't happen to own a fast computer with plenty of ram ( >512 ). Same for Firefox, it seems to eat up plenty of memory once I have been using it for a long time.
But the lawyers go unfed. Oh that's assuming they have lawyers.
It's precision magnitudes better than our GPS!
You know, just like those damned guided bombs and cruise missles, it's easier to aim for a house than say the ocean.
I wonder if they pick the landing site..erm house by national lottery?
I think we are missing the point here. With all the attempts at decrypting the ban list and publishing the plain text, one point they are trying to prove is that these censorware products simply SUCK. They are way too many porn sites popping up per the hour compared to a new ban list coming up. They are blocking site on reasons of not pornography, violence, but simply because the company does not like these sites, like PEacefire.
I gather these products have to be politically correct, so blocking out many activitist, racist, political-bashing etc sites is part of their job. But are we willing to bring up our child in a perfect haven? The moment he steps into society he is gonna get the f_ing culture shock of his life. I do not agree with showing a porn magazine a day to your children, but we cannot keep them pure forever. We want to have creative, thinking people who are willing to do the unthinkable and stand up for themselves in society. People who spent half their live watching only barney and friends ain't gonna make the mark.
Which brings the point, what in the f_ing world are parents here for? You think god or any almighty being created the basic family unit for fun? The purpose of the parents or being parents is to guide our children. Expose them to the appropriate, and shelter them accordingly to situation, time and age. How to you think human rights activitist themselves became one? If they had spent their life blind from abuse of human rights out there on the streets, they won't have give a damn now. Parental guidance and censorship are dynamic, stupid censorware products aren't.
Stop blaming the damn product for not doing its job when you ain't doing yours as a parent.
Since Microsoft has been trying to encourage companies from switching over to unix, maybe someone should run a benchmark on NT against Solaris, or any other commercial tested-and-trusted unix.
Results might be interesting, if it doesn't get skewed/screwed again.
God damn mother sucker why can't you people just simply insist that in your opinion windows is more capable? Instead of screaming out loud who sucks and who rules, as if the damn world's future depends on windows/microsoft/windows2000 to save us from some armageddon. Come one trolls, learn to voice your opinions properly
Interesting.. sounds like some kiddies hooked on past x-files episodes. Particularly the hybrid part. It need not be a hoax when an alient looks like humans. There is a possibility that we evolved from them, ie they seeded life on earth, or just human life, or that they evolved from us. Maybe some distant past, we had better technology. Some disaster threatens to wipe us out, so we sent our a small group of humans out into space, with the technology to terraform and create their own society. Now they come back to see if we survived. The difference in features could be that we evolved and adapted, surviving the apocalypse. But of course, we have been seeing way too many humanoid shaped aliens these days.
Best way I've found is to just wham your keyboard. Of course don't just hit the alpha part. Hit everything. Get the resultant string, and remove characters here and there to get the length you want. Tada!
Write it down. Stick it onto your eyeball. Read it and recall it for an hour, or more if needed. Log on to the account every minute. Burn the paper.
There. Of course trouble comes with many different accounts with different passwords.
More like pin instead of peng.
He's saying "my Chinese standard isn't that high. Maybe I'm a stupid american"
What the heck this is turning into a Chinese class. I think this was just meant at a pun on BSOD.
It's not the user-base that I think we should look for in this adoption, but the publicity. We still have a butt-load of people out there who doesn't know what linux is, can't be bothered when Windows works for them, afraid of anything not Windows... bla bla bla. This publicity, should it happen, will get Linux some deserved media attention. Give Gates something to worry about. And of course change the FOF's stupid comment on Linux being fringe.
Windows is simply getting too much media attention. That is why other companies develop for windows only, cause everybody want their products to be in the spotlight.
Someone might want to correct me but can these spammers be systematically spamming aaaaaaaaa to zzzzzzzz? Might explain why my unrevealed emails too get spammed for no reason. Unless of course those companies sell out our address.
Hey that's what backups are for! Regularly backup your home directory so any accidental/purposeful screw-ups won't hurt you that bad.
it isn't just about running tons of layers of protection and firewalls. No point in that when those idiot companies can simply quit violating our privacy rights.
And now we ask for net-connected fridge and toasters? Same problem is gonna happen, with stupid companies gathering your eating habits and grocery list.
What now? Everyone builds a lead/iron box in his backyard and stuff all our electronic equipment into it? Might as well enclose our whole house in it. Might help twart off robberies and stuff. Maybe add a couple of turrets and reinforce it.
And viola! We have the ultimate personal fallout,bomb,terrorist,privacy shelter.
Beats the purpose of living.
aw fuck stupid html format sorry about the unsightly mess/rant
It isn't the trust of the users to blame, but that the companies abused the trust given by their customers. We download software from the net because we think it is useful and we trust that it will do something useful. Even if it does shit, we trust it does it's shit without violating that trust. But no. Stupid companies abuse the fact that more and more people are now connected to the net through a personal computer. Personal information are stored there, and these twits greedily collect the information without even asking. Why? No asking needed! Programs can do stuff without alerting us. Stuff can flow out of our modems without us realising what exactly is sent. And of course we trust that good information is being sent. These dumbheads are not only creating privacy problems, they are degrading the mutual trust we created amongst humans. Of course it all points to the readily-available internet access. What can we do about it? We can't thrash the net and thrash years of work. We can't always create new techniques to counter such retarded programs. Having layers and layers of protection will only slow down our work, and create a bunch of paranoid users. Let's openly bash these violators and show them our trust is not to be taken for granted. (I know this doesn't have to do with TRUSTe but its all boils down to our privacy isn't it)