Someone doesn't live in an area where people jack their trucks to over 7'. I'm 5'6" and my girlfriend is shorter, should we adopt stils so we're not categorized as dumb?
You're crazy if you actually believed you had any privacy in email. It's data sent over a medium that is publicly accessible. If you want a reasonable expectation of privacy you encrypt -- with an encryption method that is publicly vetted and with the understanding that encryption is a deterrent and isn't a guarantee. Just like if you're walking a sidewalk in the middle of NYC you should never expect privacy on the internet. The NSA is hardly likely to be the ONLY group watching and reading and listening to every bit of data you're putting out on the internet and there's likely hundreds of other groups working to tie that data to you directly.
What exactly is wrong with Google+ aside from being late to the game? It brought profile control options not seen at Facebook at the time, Hangouts (not seen on Facebook), and other features that were either improved in G+ or introduced. As for the "acquired" thing, let's not forget that nearly every single piece of technology Apple has "invented" already existed in some form or fashion in academia circles years (or decades) before Apple combined them into a single device. Google "pinch-to-zoom". Oh sorry, maybe you can try to "Siri" that -- good luck.
> MS still supports most old software, and you can't do that without having security holes, or at least a much greater volume of code
Is that what we're running with? I can run old versions of BASH, does this mean Linux is insecure? I can run quite a bit of old software (GIMP, Staroffice, etc) on Linux.
> As for law enforcement, it's well-known that MS OSes are wide-open to the NSA, and there's no way to disprove this since the code isn't open.
And on the same hand there's no way for you to know the NSA is embedded. You can't see a lot of the internals of your hardware -- do not trust that either? Can you trust your RAM, BIOS, CPU, HDD? At some point one accepts some risk because not everything is open source.
> Whoopee, they researched a bunch of cool stuff, but the stuff the sell is the same old same old.
Research breeds innovation whether by MS or by others inspired by the work. If you lived in the real world you'd understand that R&D is not a quick and lucrative thing.
Because that's exactly what it is...a crappy analogy. Open Source doesn't mean "cheaper"...especially if you're modifying the code. First you have to hire coders, then there's testing, bug fixing, documentation, training etc. It's hardly "easy" as well. It IS often cheaper and easier to hire a vendor to do that for you. No HR costs, support gets outsourced to the vendor, etc.
> Obviously, Option 1 is the safer choice, even though that means you can't just grab some off-the-shelf version put together by someone who doesn't care much about safety.
I realize this was just an example, but I can't help but feel the dig at MS with that little comment. MS does care, especially since XP, about security. They've been more and more willing to break old software nowadays to promote security than to code "hacks". Their security model is more reasonable and they re-wrote a large part of their core to implement new security. I've yet to see a Linux distribution or foundation that has a dedicated security team that works with law enforcement, ISPs, etc to analyze and shutdown botnets world-wide. They've even done research into managed code OSes and a Mach style kernels to increase security and modularity. Your analogy was true over a decade ago...it's not true now.
Not likely. I'd love to dump Windows for Linux -- it'd make building new PCs cheaper (I don't pirate my OS), but thus far the majority of the big-game publishers don't seem keen on leaving Windows. I think it will come, but it's no where near the momentum to get Microsoft to care. Not yet.
The difference is that if there is an issue that damages my company I have a contract wherein I can sue the living shit out of the guy who made the software. I've yet to meet any open source software that doesn't have the disclaimer of "use at your own risk".
Not all software is security or part of the OS. Many bank's software is proprietary and generally runs on mainframes. Having the source code doesn't mean that something is secure and some flaws in software can be used as backdoors. OpenSSH had a major one a while ago which impacted several versions.
I'm not saying open source is less secure -- I'm saying that not all commercial software is a inherently insecure because it's closed source. You're making certain incidences out to be the issue with everyone's software.
> If BitCoin was commercial software, no doubt it would be up to Version 7 Professional Platinum Collector's Edition now... but then again, if it was commercial software, it would probably be closed source, and therefore nobody would trust it enough to use it, and we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Because people don't trust software like Microsoft Windows or Epic Systems's EPIC or Autodesk...no sir, no one trusts commercial software. Tell me, when you get done fapping to open source is the napkin you use for clean up GPL compatible?
The key word was "basic" in "basic application". Most Linux distros don't come with much more than Tomboy which is essentially nothing more than notepad opened up for each new "sticky note" and sized appropriately. OneNote doesn't have any real competitors that offer the full range of features and believe me, I've looked. To suggest that this is a "basic" program ignores the fact that none of the other platforms offer software with the same features and capabilities with their standard base installs.
I like OneNote because of the whiteboarding features, multi-user editing, and the click-anywhere/write-anywhere type functionality. I feel that the search functionality leaves a LOT to be desired, but IMHO it's more functional than Evernote.
He sure messed up here. Why yes, I DID create Bitcoin and for $10K I'll come onto Good Morning America and answer questions...then I'll have some real coin to play with.
Seems as if this is a great "real world" example of what happens when you try and run a "free market" without any sort of regulating body. People get scammed and it doesn't matter that the scammer's company collapsed...they cashed out a LONG time before it happened.
That's right and if you forget to lock the doors on your car when I rob it, it shouldn't be up to society to have to arrest me and charge me with a crime. You left your doors unlocked, next time try and not be so stupid -- right?
Every copy has malware? Do you have any sort of way of confirming that every single Android device ever made has malware on it? I don't think you understand security and likely you don't understand much at all, but such is the mark of the AC.
>but I am cautious around people profess to "practice" on me
And I'm cautious around people who only understand a single definition to words with multiple or complex definitions:
Practice: the actual application or use of an idea, belief, or method as opposed to theories about such application or use.
"the principles and practice of teaching"
It's open source. I don't know the license, but I imagine it's likely a GPL/BSD-type license. One should learn that Apple is not the most "open source" friendly OS. Steal from BSD, as an example, and then release the derivative kernel and shut it down as quickly as one can to avoid raising "too many" suspicions.
> I admire your charming naivete. I hope life keeps treating you so well that you never develop my hardened cynicism.
Ah, the mark of someone who has never considered the possibility that he might be wrong. No, it's just that anyone else who disagrees with you JUST doesn't have YOUR expertise. Does it feel good to sit upon your throne, my liege?
>Well, I respect the opinions of the airline pilots I've discussed this with at length (while the hardened cockpit doors aren't perfect, they're enough), plus there have been a few incidents since 9/11 where passengers perceived a threat and "dogpiled" the supposed hijacker.
AeroMéxico Flight 576
Eagle Airways Flight 2279
> Now we're into movie plot threats. What if the terrorists are actually shape-shifting reptoid aliens, like the New Zealand Prime Minister or that Obama bodyguard? I can invent better stories than you, I think.
Yes, because it's not feasible for a vial to be stolen from a country like Russia. But I guess it is just a movie plot and I'm sure some moron (who was probably a Libertarian as well) thought the same thing about 9/11. That there was no way some third world nation terrorists could ever hijack and ram two Boeing 747s into two towers on the same day. No sir, that also sounds like a fantastic movie plot...heck one of the masterminds behind this could be the leader of some Muslim cult with a black beard (to show how evil he is), yes...now all we need is a Libertarian hero who'll do everything himself because he's "smarter" than some "gubmint" agency. By god I better call Spielberg, I think I shall call this movie "Libertarian: Ultimate American -- Laughs in the face of everything and builds his own roads and polices his community all at once, by himself".
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Windows Live 8.1 Update 1 Service Pack 1 R2 ME Edition?
I know many people (even those in their 30s) who can't easily ID a QR code.
Someone doesn't live in an area where people jack their trucks to over 7'. I'm 5'6" and my girlfriend is shorter, should we adopt stils so we're not categorized as dumb?
You're crazy if you actually believed you had any privacy in email. It's data sent over a medium that is publicly accessible. If you want a reasonable expectation of privacy you encrypt -- with an encryption method that is publicly vetted and with the understanding that encryption is a deterrent and isn't a guarantee. Just like if you're walking a sidewalk in the middle of NYC you should never expect privacy on the internet. The NSA is hardly likely to be the ONLY group watching and reading and listening to every bit of data you're putting out on the internet and there's likely hundreds of other groups working to tie that data to you directly.
What exactly is wrong with Google+ aside from being late to the game? It brought profile control options not seen at Facebook at the time, Hangouts (not seen on Facebook), and other features that were either improved in G+ or introduced. As for the "acquired" thing, let's not forget that nearly every single piece of technology Apple has "invented" already existed in some form or fashion in academia circles years (or decades) before Apple combined them into a single device. Google "pinch-to-zoom". Oh sorry, maybe you can try to "Siri" that -- good luck.
> MS still supports most old software, and you can't do that without having security holes, or at least a much greater volume of code
Is that what we're running with? I can run old versions of BASH, does this mean Linux is insecure? I can run quite a bit of old software (GIMP, Staroffice, etc) on Linux.
> As for law enforcement, it's well-known that MS OSes are wide-open to the NSA, and there's no way to disprove this since the code isn't open.
And on the same hand there's no way for you to know the NSA is embedded. You can't see a lot of the internals of your hardware -- do not trust that either? Can you trust your RAM, BIOS, CPU, HDD? At some point one accepts some risk because not everything is open source.
> Whoopee, they researched a bunch of cool stuff, but the stuff the sell is the same old same old.
Research breeds innovation whether by MS or by others inspired by the work. If you lived in the real world you'd understand that R&D is not a quick and lucrative thing.
>To make a crappy car analogy
Because that's exactly what it is...a crappy analogy. Open Source doesn't mean "cheaper"...especially if you're modifying the code. First you have to hire coders, then there's testing, bug fixing, documentation, training etc. It's hardly "easy" as well. It IS often cheaper and easier to hire a vendor to do that for you. No HR costs, support gets outsourced to the vendor, etc.
> Obviously, Option 1 is the safer choice, even though that means you can't just grab some off-the-shelf version put together by someone who doesn't care much about safety.
I realize this was just an example, but I can't help but feel the dig at MS with that little comment. MS does care, especially since XP, about security. They've been more and more willing to break old software nowadays to promote security than to code "hacks". Their security model is more reasonable and they re-wrote a large part of their core to implement new security. I've yet to see a Linux distribution or foundation that has a dedicated security team that works with law enforcement, ISPs, etc to analyze and shutdown botnets world-wide. They've even done research into managed code OSes and a Mach style kernels to increase security and modularity. Your analogy was true over a decade ago...it's not true now.
This makes sense within a time bubble perspective.
Not likely. I'd love to dump Windows for Linux -- it'd make building new PCs cheaper (I don't pirate my OS), but thus far the majority of the big-game publishers don't seem keen on leaving Windows. I think it will come, but it's no where near the momentum to get Microsoft to care. Not yet.
The difference is that if there is an issue that damages my company I have a contract wherein I can sue the living shit out of the guy who made the software. I've yet to meet any open source software that doesn't have the disclaimer of "use at your own risk".
Not all software is security or part of the OS. Many bank's software is proprietary and generally runs on mainframes. Having the source code doesn't mean that something is secure and some flaws in software can be used as backdoors. OpenSSH had a major one a while ago which impacted several versions.
I'm not saying open source is less secure -- I'm saying that not all commercial software is a inherently insecure because it's closed source. You're making certain incidences out to be the issue with everyone's software.
> If BitCoin was commercial software, no doubt it would be up to Version 7 Professional Platinum Collector's Edition now... but then again, if it was commercial software, it would probably be closed source, and therefore nobody would trust it enough to use it, and we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Because people don't trust software like Microsoft Windows or Epic Systems's EPIC or Autodesk...no sir, no one trusts commercial software. Tell me, when you get done fapping to open source is the napkin you use for clean up GPL compatible?
The key word was "basic" in "basic application". Most Linux distros don't come with much more than Tomboy which is essentially nothing more than notepad opened up for each new "sticky note" and sized appropriately. OneNote doesn't have any real competitors that offer the full range of features and believe me, I've looked. To suggest that this is a "basic" program ignores the fact that none of the other platforms offer software with the same features and capabilities with their standard base installs.
So what about Notepad, Wordpad, Paint, Command Line's EDIT, etc?
I like OneNote because of the whiteboarding features, multi-user editing, and the click-anywhere/write-anywhere type functionality. I feel that the search functionality leaves a LOT to be desired, but IMHO it's more functional than Evernote.
I fail to see how a "whiteboarding" app like OneNote is considered "basic". Should they include a CAD program as well?
He sure messed up here. Why yes, I DID create Bitcoin and for $10K I'll come onto Good Morning America and answer questions...then I'll have some real coin to play with.
Seems as if this is a great "real world" example of what happens when you try and run a "free market" without any sort of regulating body. People get scammed and it doesn't matter that the scammer's company collapsed...they cashed out a LONG time before it happened.
No. You're not forced to use them.
That's right and if you forget to lock the doors on your car when I rob it, it shouldn't be up to society to have to arrest me and charge me with a crime. You left your doors unlocked, next time try and not be so stupid -- right?
Don't leave your house. Don't go into bars or stores as well. Don't go outside and don't use a laptop with a web cam.
Every copy has malware? Do you have any sort of way of confirming that every single Android device ever made has malware on it? I don't think you understand security and likely you don't understand much at all, but such is the mark of the AC.
>but I am cautious around people profess to "practice" on me
And I'm cautious around people who only understand a single definition to words with multiple or complex definitions:
Practice: the actual application or use of an idea, belief, or method as opposed to theories about such application or use. "the principles and practice of teaching"
It's open source. I don't know the license, but I imagine it's likely a GPL/BSD-type license. One should learn that Apple is not the most "open source" friendly OS. Steal from BSD, as an example, and then release the derivative kernel and shut it down as quickly as one can to avoid raising "too many" suspicions.
> I admire your charming naivete. I hope life keeps treating you so well that you never develop my hardened cynicism.
Ah, the mark of someone who has never considered the possibility that he might be wrong. No, it's just that anyone else who disagrees with you JUST doesn't have YOUR expertise. Does it feel good to sit upon your throne, my liege?
>Well, I respect the opinions of the airline pilots I've discussed this with at length (while the hardened cockpit doors aren't perfect, they're enough), plus there have been a few incidents since 9/11 where passengers perceived a threat and "dogpiled" the supposed hijacker.
AeroMéxico Flight 576
Eagle Airways Flight 2279
> Now we're into movie plot threats. What if the terrorists are actually shape-shifting reptoid aliens, like the New Zealand Prime Minister or that Obama bodyguard? I can invent better stories than you, I think.
Yes, because it's not feasible for a vial to be stolen from a country like Russia. But I guess it is just a movie plot and I'm sure some moron (who was probably a Libertarian as well) thought the same thing about 9/11. That there was no way some third world nation terrorists could ever hijack and ram two Boeing 747s into two towers on the same day. No sir, that also sounds like a fantastic movie plot...heck one of the masterminds behind this could be the leader of some Muslim cult with a black beard (to show how evil he is), yes...now all we need is a Libertarian hero who'll do everything himself because he's "smarter" than some "gubmint" agency. By god I better call Spielberg, I think I shall call this movie "Libertarian: Ultimate American -- Laughs in the face of everything and builds his own roads and polices his community all at once, by himself".
Ok, so the title needs work.