One of my biggest fears with the talk of Basic Income, is the rise of terrible artists and musicians. I myself have a minor in music (from a rather big deal music school) however I wouldn't be able to make a living playing music. While I am not embarrassing (I will play in community bands) I know I am not professional quality. And even as a street musician I wouldn't be gathering much attention, to bring in the extra money.
Basic Income would mean I could try to play in the street full time to bring in extra cash above Basic Income... However I wouldn't have the harsh realities of not making a living to tell me how bad actually I am.
While artists like to seem to be all about the art, many of them fail to be strict on their money. That picture they made took them an hour to draw, then that picture should be charged $100. Professional Artists who do their work for a living know this, and don't give freebees, exposure isn't payment, and if you are going to distribute it for profit, then they want royalties.
They may sound like they are a sell out, became a corporate shill... However they are able to make a living doing a job they love. While those who are considered starving artists, who sell for free or cheap hoping to get exposure, normally will not get too far, so they will be making a living doing a job they find sub-optimal, and probably taking time from doing what they love.
Then was a bunch GW Bush bashing on every post. And a lot of Slashdotters were switching to a better tech site called Digg. Users were celebrating the rise of Apple from the ashes, as the only way to bring Microsoft down. Most articles that covered around Global Warming, were more or less poking fun of the Climate deniers as stupid hicks. And jokes and worries about the Terrorist threats being over exaggerated, and fears of the government via Homeland security spying on us and taking our rites away. The biggest threat to the Techs is the outsourcing to India.
The overt racism wasn't there (there was stronger sexism though) . There were still a lot of stupid posts and not much arguments against normally a left leaning response. An post about anything anti-GPL would get modded as a troll.
I expect the average age for Slashdot has risen. And most of us have gotten older, many have tossed away their liberal idealism often to the extreme, to far conservationism. (Although as I have aged I found myself moving more to the left, as I have found modern conservatism much too cruel for what the world needs.) But as we get older we have more stuff to protect, and to Protect what we have is a core Conservative ideal, however once we change over to different camps we find a different world view which has its points that we may not have figured out before. So for those who may had said the Science is undeniable, once they get older and see a world where we see issues in the scientific community (Where the Publish or Parish culture will often push out crap, at a level too high to be properly reviewed), and a lot of other things that we use to think as true, to actually be false, brings up questioning on what people are saying this is true, get over it. Also as we age, we have a tenancy to be more comfortable with like people and being around diversity scares us more. This brings up tribalism, and racist responses, due to a reduced lack of tolerance, which may be evolutionary, as we age out of prime child baring ages, our natural role in society to to protect the community of those who are like us, so outsiders have a reflexive account of fear and suspicion.
Actually the parent post was posted with an Apple product. But if you check the time, I think I posted it without thinking or being awake. I didn't even remember that I posted that comment.
I personally don't see the need for it, as most people with the money to get Smart Luggage will already have their phone handy on them. I also use this excuse for these smart speakers like Echo, and a similar argument with the Smart Watches. One Smart device is good enough for me.
Yea, the kid should shut up and listen to his dad. Being the fact that he questioned the legality of the action shows he is critically thinking about the problem and weighing the proposed solution.
I tend to agree. Why is the iPad disallowed while other tablets are fine? Is the stereo typical public school “IT Director” just an Android fan and an Apple hater?
That seems to be the biggest issue, then trying to teach your kid on how to cheat the system.
I am willing to bet if the publisher wanted to sue you for getting a pdf from the black market copy of something you bought. They could probably win, however it probably just isn’t worth it.
If I lived and worked in Albany, the value for a housing in Albany is far more valuable to me, then anything in NYC where I wouldn't be. The cost is an average of a populations values. While the Value for the Albany home is worth more then the value of an NYC for me, for the overall population, there is a collective more people with Value on NYC then with Albany. thus the Albany home cost less. However the job at Albany will also pay less then at New York City, often it is 40% less then in the Big City. But we can get by with the same or increase quality of life, with the smaller income.
Reinforcement Learning systems have a tenancies of creating "Superstition" artifacts, were actions that may not create a net positive or negative are used over when the net outcome is positive. It often creates less than ideal outcome, but still it works. So this could mean a really long chess game with non-strategic moves, as the most optimal path, may not be enforced correctly.
Could it be, a general decline in the interest of watching sports in general? Being that we now live in a world of multiple forms of entertainment, and a huge archive of recorded shows on our beck and call via streaming. Perhaps sports just isn't as interesting. Back in the days where it was common to not have cable, Sports took up 1/5 or greater of the watchable TV when it was on. But watching sports now one of thousand options you can pick to do.
While I commend your use of satire, and sarcasm. Sadly enough, I fear there are groups who believe this type of things. I often fear that I may had caused the Flat Earther movements myself, from a few Sarcastic comments I had made 20 years ago online, making fun of climate deniers, by making up some stupid scientific sounding explanation on why the world was flat. After Trump became president and the rise of the Flat Earther. I fear ever using Satire and Sarcasm publicly without a disclaimer would cause a new sense of horrors on the earth.
My father use to work in an Auto Junk Yard. He Boss use to tell him (thus he would always tell me). "Its all junk!... Unless someone wants it, then it is merchandise!"
How so? Even in the United States the actual value of the dollar is different across different towns. Upstate NY 2k a month can pay for a mortgage of a good size house with about an acre of property. In Downstate NY 2k a month would get you a small apartment. Food, Fuel prices are different.
A world dollar wouldn't really do too much. as 1WD could buy 10kg of rice in one area. while in others it would get you 1kg.
The problem with Bitcoin is the fact that it growing at a rate far exceeding any sane inflation. It has gone to stupid level. Because they are so valuable, no one will actually buy anything real with them, unless they will be the pizza guy who bought a Pizza with 20 bit coins a few years ago.
The increasing calculation cost in mining them, is happening faster then the speed computation to figure it out. In general it has became a valuable currency that only an idiot will spend. So we have massive computers which would be used to do more practical things, are crunching away hoping to get a magic number, that is worth something.
He who gets the market share, controls the development.
We had a mountain of browsers that look like Netscape (A lot of buttons for a lot of features), Then the UI changed to look more like IE (Icons without button borders), then they all changed to look like Chrome as little buttons as possible and just one big location bar that does duel job (yes google took that from Firefox), and the Tabs take over the blank part of the window borders.
Is the CEO of Yahoo or the CEO of Mozilla trolling Slashdot?
Lets face it both are the Distant 3rd place players in their respected areas. With Microsoft being #2, and Google being #1.
I have found 3rd place to be an interesting place. Where you are big enough so you can innovate new ideas because you are not tied to the old idea, because it didn't really work out that well. Or you just try to fight for what you had slowly dying.
We won't find the Next generation browser or search engine from Google or Microsoft. They have too much to loose if they change it too much. But the #3 players have the ability to do something new.
Firefox Quantum is a good step, but I wouldn't call it next generation, and Yahoo is just declining.
Synergy is when the outcome of a task is greater then what the sum of what anyone could do by themselves. For example if to do a job it take 5 people to do a job in 4 days, while it would take one person to do the job in 30 days, is considered synergy.
And yet many parts of the US are much nicer places to live then many parts in Europe?
I don't get your point.
Also how do you qualify a better life? For some they prefer a metropolitan life style in a high-rise loft with fancy parties. While others may want a quite small cabin in the woods sitting in front of the fire reading a book.
This set of fears about Automation and technology replacing our job seems to come up every 50 years or so. Normally around a recession where people feel stressed from this technology, where it is doing jobs that use to take skilled people years to perfect. However what seems to happen is while such jobs are replaced (And these are real people, good people not worthy of getting let go) it is often replaced and added to with a new set of jobs. Lets talk about the computer revolution during the 1970's. Companies had many people doing a bunch of paperwork such as calculating the hours someone worked from the times they punched in to when they punched out. Having to factor in if they have done overtime, find their pay rate, and manually calculate it out. Figure out any benefits and taxes... So to do this on paper would take about 15 minutes of work per hourly employee per week. So we can say a company needed a full time employee just to do this for a company with over 100 full time employees. Then we got a computer hooked up to the time system, so we don't need that employee. However we needed someone who knew how to use the computer. Being that this computer operator didn't need to use all there time on just that one task, they will be tasked with doing things the company never though of doing, such as tracking employees performance, seeing trends if someone is constantly late and leaves early, comparing person vs output... As the value of such computer usage is shown, a company will expand on it.
My hope with our current new automation tools and products, there will be a new revival in kindness and customer support, and people oriented work. Where companies who offer the best support will succeed. And it would be easier to exceed in being friendly with customers without having a mountain of work to distract you from doing this. Where today such jobs are low paid, being that companies will need to focus on better people to people interactions that will mean that they will need to pay much more for better customer support.
The question comes down to incentive . For our culture, does the incentive for most Americans to exceed, grow and find a way to show that they are better then their neighbor is higher then the incentive to be able to survive a mediocre comfortable life.
With Basic Income, I do see a number of people who work to live, quitting their job. These are not bad or lazy people, they are just not ambitious, they would prefer to use their time doing things they like to do. I can see also a number of people more willing to take risks to be more successful, as the cost of failure is much less. They may be more likely to stand up to their boss, when something is wrong, or take charge of an activity, because the risk of failure is much less.
One of the biggest problems I see in our political stance is the Left seem to be anti-capitalism, while the right seem to be all out Capitalism. However the real issue is much different. Is it better for a company to save money to produce cheaper stuff, or is it better to have more customers who are willing to buy the more expensive but better quality stuff.
Normally if we have the choice, and it wont hurt us in the long term, we will want to get the best, even if it isn't the best deal out there. However the best is often not the best deal, so we go with good enough. Because we as customers of products needs to ration our finances. The lower our income the stricter the rationing. You can be poor and buy an expensive sports car, however it will mean other aspects of your life will need to reflect this.
We can look at the popularity of "Premium" Smart phones. Being the Top of the line "Premium" phones are around the $1000 range, they are actually rather popular. Not because they are the best deal, you can get an older model, or a brand without the shiny glass back.... and get the same utility for a fraction of the price. But because they are suppose to be the best we can get, and the price point of $1000 is a price that for most will require some sacrifice, but not a big one. This means the majority of the people can purchase the Best Smartphone on the market. Thus their popularity.
I am not really sold on the idea of basic income, neither am I opposed to it. Because I can see two things happening with it.
The good: The costs of basic living for all people are covered, this will allow freedom to take additional risks start businesses, and being able purchase better stuff with their income from their jobs.
The bad: The incentive for most people to work may be gone, they will be happy to live with what they have. Companies will need to do a bunch of cost cutting methods to make the product cheap enough for people to buy the stuff. Laying off people on a whim would be much easier with basic income, because they know they are not just throwing people to the streets.
On some LCD screens when it is quite I can hear the pixels flipping. My old Amstrad CPC 1512 which was an XT with no fans would make noise when it was calculating stuff. I can sometimes hear beeps from a WiFi router.
We are in a sea of low sounds. That a gif in a quite room may be heard by the electronic device, that the person may not have experienced in such quite environment.
It appears that Google and Amazon haven't learned to compartmentalize their businesses yet. Just look at Apple and Samsung for example. Apple is Samsung #1 competitor and one of their major customers at the same time. Because their Smart Phone Market is in competition, but Apple buys their components.
Amazon and Google can Complete against each other while at the same time sell each others services and work with them.
The problem is there are too many people willing to look the other way, or make excuses for such a behavior. The problem is for many of the Republicans who are in Power if they target Trump, they could loose the 30% of their voters. We are not seeing anyone brave enough to stand up against him, and be willing to run again.
For the long term, this will be bad for the Republican Party, espectially after the Democrats can regroup.
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One of my biggest fears with the talk of Basic Income, is the rise of terrible artists and musicians. I myself have a minor in music (from a rather big deal music school) however I wouldn't be able to make a living playing music. While I am not embarrassing (I will play in community bands) I know I am not professional quality. And even as a street musician I wouldn't be gathering much attention, to bring in the extra money.
Basic Income would mean I could try to play in the street full time to bring in extra cash above Basic Income... However I wouldn't have the harsh realities of not making a living to tell me how bad actually I am.
While artists like to seem to be all about the art, many of them fail to be strict on their money. That picture they made took them an hour to draw, then that picture should be charged $100. Professional Artists who do their work for a living know this, and don't give freebees, exposure isn't payment, and if you are going to distribute it for profit, then they want royalties.
They may sound like they are a sell out, became a corporate shill... However they are able to make a living doing a job they love. While those who are considered starving artists, who sell for free or cheap hoping to get exposure, normally will not get too far, so they will be making a living doing a job they find sub-optimal, and probably taking time from doing what they love.
While Java is still widely used, it is a far cry to Java a decade or so ago.
Then was a bunch GW Bush bashing on every post. And a lot of Slashdotters were switching to a better tech site called Digg. Users were celebrating the rise of Apple from the ashes, as the only way to bring Microsoft down. Most articles that covered around Global Warming, were more or less poking fun of the Climate deniers as stupid hicks. And jokes and worries about the Terrorist threats being over exaggerated, and fears of the government via Homeland security spying on us and taking our rites away. The biggest threat to the Techs is the outsourcing to India.
The overt racism wasn't there (there was stronger sexism though) . There were still a lot of stupid posts and not much arguments against normally a left leaning response. An post about anything anti-GPL would get modded as a troll.
I expect the average age for Slashdot has risen. And most of us have gotten older, many have tossed away their liberal idealism often to the extreme, to far conservationism. (Although as I have aged I found myself moving more to the left, as I have found modern conservatism much too cruel for what the world needs.) But as we get older we have more stuff to protect, and to Protect what we have is a core Conservative ideal, however once we change over to different camps we find a different world view which has its points that we may not have figured out before. So for those who may had said the Science is undeniable, once they get older and see a world where we see issues in the scientific community (Where the Publish or Parish culture will often push out crap, at a level too high to be properly reviewed), and a lot of other things that we use to think as true, to actually be false, brings up questioning on what people are saying this is true, get over it.
Also as we age, we have a tenancy to be more comfortable with like people and being around diversity scares us more. This brings up tribalism, and racist responses, due to a reduced lack of tolerance, which may be evolutionary, as we age out of prime child baring ages, our natural role in society to to protect the community of those who are like us, so outsiders have a reflexive account of fear and suspicion.
Actually the parent post was posted with an Apple product. But if you check the time, I think I posted it without thinking or being awake. I didn't even remember that I posted that comment.
I personally don't see the need for it, as most people with the money to get Smart Luggage will already have their phone handy on them. I also use this excuse for these smart speakers like Echo, and a similar argument with the Smart Watches. One Smart device is good enough for me.
Yea, the kid should shut up and listen to his dad.
Being the fact that he questioned the legality of the action shows he is critically thinking about the problem and weighing the proposed solution.
I tend to agree. Why is the iPad disallowed while other tablets are fine?
Is the stereo typical public school “IT Director” just an Android fan and an Apple hater?
That seems to be the biggest issue, then trying to teach your kid on how to cheat the system.
I am willing to bet if the publisher wanted to sue you for getting a pdf from the black market copy of something you bought. They could probably win, however it probably just isn’t worth it.
If I lived and worked in Albany, the value for a housing in Albany is far more valuable to me, then anything in NYC where I wouldn't be.
The cost is an average of a populations values. While the Value for the Albany home is worth more then the value of an NYC for me, for the overall population, there is a collective more people with Value on NYC then with Albany. thus the Albany home cost less. However the job at Albany will also pay less then at New York City, often it is 40% less then in the Big City. But we can get by with the same or increase quality of life, with the smaller income.
Reinforcement Learning systems have a tenancies of creating "Superstition" artifacts, were actions that may not create a net positive or negative are used over when the net outcome is positive. It often creates less than ideal outcome, but still it works. So this could mean a really long chess game with non-strategic moves, as the most optimal path, may not be enforced correctly.
Could it be, a general decline in the interest of watching sports in general?
Being that we now live in a world of multiple forms of entertainment, and a huge archive of recorded shows on our beck and call via streaming. Perhaps sports just isn't as interesting.
Back in the days where it was common to not have cable, Sports took up 1/5 or greater of the watchable TV when it was on.
But watching sports now one of thousand options you can pick to do.
While I commend your use of satire, and sarcasm. Sadly enough, I fear there are groups who believe this type of things. I often fear that I may had caused the Flat Earther movements myself, from a few Sarcastic comments I had made 20 years ago online, making fun of climate deniers, by making up some stupid scientific sounding explanation on why the world was flat. After Trump became president and the rise of the Flat Earther. I fear ever using Satire and Sarcasm publicly without a disclaimer would cause a new sense of horrors on the earth.
My father use to work in an Auto Junk Yard. He Boss use to tell him (thus he would always tell me). "Its all junk!... Unless someone wants it, then it is merchandise!"
How so?
Even in the United States the actual value of the dollar is different across different towns.
Upstate NY 2k a month can pay for a mortgage of a good size house with about an acre of property. In Downstate NY 2k a month would get you a small apartment.
Food, Fuel prices are different.
A world dollar wouldn't really do too much. as 1WD could buy 10kg of rice in one area. while in others it would get you 1kg.
The problem with Bitcoin is the fact that it growing at a rate far exceeding any sane inflation.
It has gone to stupid level. Because they are so valuable, no one will actually buy anything real with them, unless they will be the pizza guy who bought a Pizza with 20 bit coins a few years ago.
The increasing calculation cost in mining them, is happening faster then the speed computation to figure it out. In general it has became a valuable currency that only an idiot will spend. So we have massive computers which would be used to do more practical things, are crunching away hoping to get a magic number, that is worth something.
He who gets the market share, controls the development.
We had a mountain of browsers that look like Netscape (A lot of buttons for a lot of features), Then the UI changed to look more like IE (Icons without button borders), then they all changed to look like Chrome as little buttons as possible and just one big location bar that does duel job (yes google took that from Firefox), and the Tabs take over the blank part of the window borders.
Is the CEO of Yahoo or the CEO of Mozilla trolling Slashdot?
Lets face it both are the Distant 3rd place players in their respected areas. With Microsoft being #2, and Google being #1.
I have found 3rd place to be an interesting place. Where you are big enough so you can innovate new ideas because you are not tied to the old idea, because it didn't really work out that well. Or you just try to fight for what you had slowly dying.
We won't find the Next generation browser or search engine from Google or Microsoft. They have too much to loose if they change it too much. But the #3 players have the ability to do something new.
Firefox Quantum is a good step, but I wouldn't call it next generation, and Yahoo is just declining.
No individualism is the opposite of synergy.
Synergy is when the outcome of a task is greater then what the sum of what anyone could do by themselves.
For example if to do a job it take 5 people to do a job in 4 days, while it would take one person to do the job in 30 days, is considered synergy.
And yet many parts of the US are much nicer places to live then many parts in Europe?
I don't get your point.
Also how do you qualify a better life? For some they prefer a metropolitan life style in a high-rise loft with fancy parties. While others may want a quite small cabin in the woods sitting in front of the fire reading a book.
This set of fears about Automation and technology replacing our job seems to come up every 50 years or so. Normally around a recession where people feel stressed from this technology, where it is doing jobs that use to take skilled people years to perfect. However what seems to happen is while such jobs are replaced (And these are real people, good people not worthy of getting let go) it is often replaced and added to with a new set of jobs.
Lets talk about the computer revolution during the 1970's. Companies had many people doing a bunch of paperwork such as calculating the hours someone worked from the times they punched in to when they punched out. Having to factor in if they have done overtime, find their pay rate, and manually calculate it out. Figure out any benefits and taxes... So to do this on paper would take about 15 minutes of work per hourly employee per week. So we can say a company needed a full time employee just to do this for a company with over 100 full time employees. Then we got a computer hooked up to the time system, so we don't need that employee. However we needed someone who knew how to use the computer. Being that this computer operator didn't need to use all there time on just that one task, they will be tasked with doing things the company never though of doing, such as tracking employees performance, seeing trends if someone is constantly late and leaves early, comparing person vs output... As the value of such computer usage is shown, a company will expand on it.
My hope with our current new automation tools and products, there will be a new revival in kindness and customer support, and people oriented work. Where companies who offer the best support will succeed. And it would be easier to exceed in being friendly with customers without having a mountain of work to distract you from doing this. Where today such jobs are low paid, being that companies will need to focus on better people to people interactions that will mean that they will need to pay much more for better customer support.
The question comes down to incentive .
For our culture, does the incentive for most Americans to exceed, grow and find a way to show that they are better then their neighbor is higher then the incentive to be able to survive a mediocre comfortable life.
With Basic Income, I do see a number of people who work to live, quitting their job. These are not bad or lazy people, they are just not ambitious, they would prefer to use their time doing things they like to do. I can see also a number of people more willing to take risks to be more successful, as the cost of failure is much less. They may be more likely to stand up to their boss, when something is wrong, or take charge of an activity, because the risk of failure is much less.
One of the biggest problems I see in our political stance is the Left seem to be anti-capitalism, while the right seem to be all out Capitalism. However the real issue is much different. Is it better for a company to save money to produce cheaper stuff, or is it better to have more customers who are willing to buy the more expensive but better quality stuff.
Normally if we have the choice, and it wont hurt us in the long term, we will want to get the best, even if it isn't the best deal out there. However the best is often not the best deal, so we go with good enough. Because we as customers of products needs to ration our finances. The lower our income the stricter the rationing. You can be poor and buy an expensive sports car, however it will mean other aspects of your life will need to reflect this.
We can look at the popularity of "Premium" Smart phones. Being the Top of the line "Premium" phones are around the $1000 range, they are actually rather popular. Not because they are the best deal, you can get an older model, or a brand without the shiny glass back.... and get the same utility for a fraction of the price. But because they are suppose to be the best we can get, and the price point of $1000 is a price that for most will require some sacrifice, but not a big one. This means the majority of the people can purchase the Best Smartphone on the market. Thus their popularity.
I am not really sold on the idea of basic income, neither am I opposed to it. Because I can see two things happening with it.
The good: The costs of basic living for all people are covered, this will allow freedom to take additional risks start businesses, and being able purchase better stuff with their income from their jobs.
The bad: The incentive for most people to work may be gone, they will be happy to live with what they have. Companies will need to do a bunch of cost cutting methods to make the product cheap enough for people to buy the stuff. Laying off people on a whim would be much easier with basic income, because they know they are not just throwing people to the streets.
On some LCD screens when it is quite I can hear the pixels flipping.
My old Amstrad CPC 1512 which was an XT with no fans would make noise when it was calculating stuff. I can sometimes hear beeps from a WiFi router.
We are in a sea of low sounds. That a gif in a quite room may be heard by the electronic device, that the person may not have experienced in such quite environment.
It appears that Google and Amazon haven't learned to compartmentalize their businesses yet.
Just look at Apple and Samsung for example. Apple is Samsung #1 competitor and one of their major customers at the same time. Because their Smart Phone Market is in competition, but Apple buys their components.
Amazon and Google can Complete against each other while at the same time sell each others services and work with them.
The problem is there are too many people willing to look the other way, or make excuses for such a behavior. The problem is for many of the Republicans who are in Power if they target Trump, they could loose the 30% of their voters. We are not seeing anyone brave enough to stand up against him, and be willing to run again.
For the long term, this will be bad for the Republican Party, espectially after the Democrats can regroup.