yum (well, interpreted python) is still slow, and it doesn't handle dependencies like APT can do
I'm very confused here. I've been using yum on Centos 5 for years now, and I've never had a time when it wouldn't find and install the dependencies for an RPM I was trying to install using it.
Can you explain a bit more please?
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They sure sucked towards the end though. They went from fun fantasy to complete downer drama and that's the point I lost interest. I think lots of other people also lost interest at that point because they were cancelled soon after.
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We'll never know how Firefly should have ended due to its abrupt cancellation, so I'm not sure how you know it was written that way. Given Mr Whedon's tendency to ruin good things (Angel and Buffy), I would have expected Firefly to go all drama-suck eventually.
That's completely different. On a computer, it's acceptable to have an application running in windowed mode and not taking up the whole of the screen. That is incredibly uncommon on a mobile platform - all apps are expected to use the whole of the screen. This very simple fact alone alters development considerably.
Like I said, you can keep your definition, I'll keep mine. We'll see if your apple manages to steer clear of regulation.
Uh, it's not _my_ apple - I have no interest in them at all. I just can't stand idiots who don't know what a monopoly is and why the laws are different for them.
The tragedy is your tiny view of monopolies being only what you are told they are.
No, I view monopolies as what they are considered and agreed to be under law. This is useful because that way, when the grown-ups are talking, we all get to talk about the same thing.
No one else is allowed to provide a "plug-compatible" platform that will run those applications. There is no competition. If you want a device that will run all of the apps in those specific spaces, you must by from Apple.
And if you want to fit a Ford ECU, you need to own a Ford. You can't fit them to a Toyota. There's NO monopoly in either example.
We can sit and redefine terms to our heart's content, but that doesn't move this forward. I can redefine "small minded dickhead" to be a picture of you, but that wouldn't necessarily make this the commonly agreed upon use for this term. In the same way, your use of the word monopoly is misinformed and more importantly, wrong.
Name one clean room reverse engineered implementation that has been killed. When you're done failing to do that, explain the continued existence of GNUStep.
Under the DMCA, only breaking of encryption is outlawed, not reverse engineering specifically. Furthermore, the DMCA only applies inside the boundaries of the USA. Finally, the DMCA explicitly protects the right to reverse engineer for the purposes of interoperability.
As for having your own definitions, you can win any argument when you redefine the terms to mean just what you want them to. The rest of us use commonly agreed language as a framework for communication. When you're ready to use the same framework as the rest of us, come talk.
There are no competitors to Apple in the "iphone-compatible" space. There are no other phones by other manufacturers, that can run iphone programs. When there ARE, then we would have 'competition'. But Apple is a monopoly in this space. As well as in the OS-x space.
Your lack of understanding of monopolies is quite tragic. There are many, many other phones that can run applications that are outside of Apple's control so they do not have a monopoly.
Your view is like saying that Ford has a monopoly in the Modeo market. Sure, they do technically as no other manufacturer sells a Mondeo, but other manufacturers sell cars with almost the same specs and if I don't like some servicing restriction on the Mondeo, I can just go and buy a Mazda 6 or a Volvo.
You sound pretty reasonable for the most part, especially about the data collection. The bit that grates me most about this is that nothing really changed between Monday when we had complete lockdown and wednesday / thursday when we opened the skies again. The ash was still up there, the concentration was, according to the Met's models still the same, but we opened the skies.
Why? What changed to reduce the risk (especially since on, I think, Tuesday, we were told new ash was being released and heading for us.)?
Sorry - I tend not to go into complete descriptions of all of my support issues on Slashdot for some reason.
The problem was absolutely a known Oracle RAC issue - The bloke I was speaking to at Veritas had seen it with another customer that Oracle had fobbed off on him before and was able to point to the metalink article that described the issue and the solution.
This shows several things... 1. I gave enough information for someone (just not the Oracle 3rd line 'expert') to identify the problem and find me the solution. 2. I was not the first person that had been in this position 3. Veritas staff are used to having to find Oracle solutions because Oracle try to get out of supporting their products by blaming someone else.
Sure - there is no RAC alternative. But that's less and less important to me these days with distributed caches. The only downside for me right now is that Oracle bought Tangosol, but at least I've got an SLA and won't have to pay anything more to Oracle for at least 3 more years.
I don't have a PC. I want to build Xbox 360 games. I have to spend money on Windows licenses, Microsoft development tools and licenses for the xbox. This is perfectly fair, and is commonly known as the cost of doing business.
And what do media players have to do with the subject at hand?
Nothing at all. But some people have an overinflated sense of their own intelligence, despite the fact that they clearly can't read and interpret pretty clear laws:D
If we're considering the entire software industry, no, Apple doesn't have a "monopoly". But neither does anyone else at the moment. Neither did Microsoft in the 1990s and early 2000s.
Microsoft had a de-facto monopoly during this period, and that is why the DOJ were able to prosecute them.
Further, they were never prosecuted for being a monopoly. They were prosecuted for unfairly using their existing monopoly in one space (desktop operating systems) to gain an unfair advantage over their competitors in another space (internet browser software in the USA and media player software in the EU).
Monopolies are not illegal at any time. Using a monopoly to gain an unfair advantage is what is illegal.
You really think that's how it works right now? Awwww cute!
For a lot of deployments, Oracle databases are deployed because a vendor of a product you want requires oracle. These vendors are often niche providers so you can't just choose someone else who doesn't have an oracle dependency. So you buy oracle.
Here's a fun game for you... Phone Oracle and ask for a price to run Oracle 11i on 2 servers, one with 8 cores (2 x 4 way CPUs) and the other with 16 cores. Also, ask if there is a price difference if Hyperthreading is enabled. Tell me how long it takes to get that quote. And how many different people you have to speak to.
About halfway through the above little game, you'll realise I left out a load of key information that you need to get it. How many people will be accessing these databases? Will they be accessing as named users, or through a web portal? Oh, and don't forget about maintenance.
Oracle is a joke that stays around for now because they provide some things that no-one else does. No-one I work with (other than Oracle DBAs) seems to like using them, and we're always on the lookout for something else.
Any chance we get, we use something else.... Sybase ASE, MSSQL under Polyserve, PostgreSQL where it fits.
You need to persuade ME that you can support your products. Every chance I get, I replace Oracle products with non-Oracle products because I'm pretty much sick and tired of having to rely on some random guy at Veritas who has happened to see the same RAC problem as I am having when your tech monkeys force me to raise a ticket with my storage vendor because theyr'e too clueless to work out the problem.
About the only things I'm likely to keep (for now) are coherence and Java, just because there's nothing else out there that competes with it. But for most of my other needs, other products exist. MSSQL, JBoss, etc.
We don't get the support we pay for, not even on a level 1 outage, so I'll be damned if I ever spend another cent with Oracle that I don't have to.
UK Libraries are DIRE. When I moved here from South Africa, I was expecting them to be wonderful resources full of books and computers and a place to hang out.
Not so.
All 5 of the libraries that I have been to in London have been smaller and grubbier and had less of a selection than my old library in Brakpan. To be clear, Brakpan is a half assed town on the east rand in South Africa, and it really bowled me over to find that I had grown up with a better library there than I would have had access to in London, England!
The truth of the matter is, US immigration policy is far more lenient than most countries in the world
How many places have you lived and worked? I'm just curious, because I've lived and worked in 5 different countries (with 6 month - 1 year contracts in other places as well) so far, and I've _never_ found anywhere as hard to legally emigrate to as the USA.
The worst is the risk involved in trying to emigrate to the USA - for most places, I've been able to move there with a clear understanding of the route to settlement and citizenship, including requirements, timings and procedural steps. Short of winning the green card lottery, I can't see any predictable way to emigrate to the USA.
It's really not more lenient than most countries in the world, sorry.
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yum (well, interpreted python) is still slow, and it doesn't handle dependencies like APT can do
I'm very confused here. I've been using yum on Centos 5 for years now, and I've never had a time when it wouldn't find and install the dependencies for an RPM I was trying to install using it.
Can you explain a bit more please?
They sure sucked towards the end though. They went from fun fantasy to complete downer drama and that's the point I lost interest. I think lots of other people also lost interest at that point because they were cancelled soon after.
What ARE you on about ?
We'll never know how Firefly should have ended due to its abrupt cancellation, so I'm not sure how you know it was written that way. Given Mr Whedon's tendency to ruin good things (Angel and Buffy), I would have expected Firefly to go all drama-suck eventually.
That's completely different. On a computer, it's acceptable to have an application running in windowed mode and not taking up the whole of the screen. That is incredibly uncommon on a mobile platform - all apps are expected to use the whole of the screen. This very simple fact alone alters development considerably.
Like I said, you can keep your definition, I'll keep mine. We'll see if your apple manages to steer clear of regulation.
Uh, it's not _my_ apple - I have no interest in them at all. I just can't stand idiots who don't know what a monopoly is and why the laws are different for them.
GNUStep comes close to being the equivalent to Cocoa as far as objective-C frameworks go. And it hasn't been sued out of existence. Funny that...
The tragedy is your tiny view of monopolies being only what you are told they are.
No, I view monopolies as what they are considered and agreed to be under law. This is useful because that way, when the grown-ups are talking, we all get to talk about the same thing.
No one else is allowed to provide a "plug-compatible" platform that will run those applications. There is no competition. If you want a device that will run all of the apps in those specific spaces, you must by from Apple.
And if you want to fit a Ford ECU, you need to own a Ford. You can't fit them to a Toyota. There's NO monopoly in either example.
We can sit and redefine terms to our heart's content, but that doesn't move this forward. I can redefine "small minded dickhead" to be a picture of you, but that wouldn't necessarily make this the commonly agreed upon use for this term. In the same way, your use of the word monopoly is misinformed and more importantly, wrong.
Name one clean room reverse engineered implementation that has been killed. When you're done failing to do that, explain the continued existence of GNUStep.
Under the DMCA, only breaking of encryption is outlawed, not reverse engineering specifically. Furthermore, the DMCA only applies inside the boundaries of the USA. Finally, the DMCA explicitly protects the right to reverse engineer for the purposes of interoperability.
As for having your own definitions, you can win any argument when you redefine the terms to mean just what you want them to. The rest of us use commonly agreed language as a framework for communication. When you're ready to use the same framework as the rest of us, come talk.
There are no competitors to Apple in the "iphone-compatible" space. There are no other phones by other manufacturers, that can run iphone programs. When there ARE, then we would have 'competition'. But Apple is a monopoly in this space. As well as in the OS-x space.
Your lack of understanding of monopolies is quite tragic. There are many, many other phones that can run applications that are outside of Apple's control so they do not have a monopoly.
Your view is like saying that Ford has a monopoly in the Modeo market. Sure, they do technically as no other manufacturer sells a Mondeo, but other manufacturers sell cars with almost the same specs and if I don't like some servicing restriction on the Mondeo, I can just go and buy a Mazda 6 or a Volvo.
Profanity is the inevitable linguistic crutch of the inarticulate motherfucker - Bruce Sherrod
You sound pretty reasonable for the most part, especially about the data collection. The bit that grates me most about this is that nothing really changed between Monday when we had complete lockdown and wednesday / thursday when we opened the skies again. The ash was still up there, the concentration was, according to the Met's models still the same, but we opened the skies.
Why? What changed to reduce the risk (especially since on, I think, Tuesday, we were told new ash was being released and heading for us.)?
Ripping a DVD for your own use is legal.
That depends on where you live. In the UK, it is illegal to rip a CD and copy it to your iPod. The same is likely true for DVDs.
Sorry - I tend not to go into complete descriptions of all of my support issues on Slashdot for some reason.
The problem was absolutely a known Oracle RAC issue - The bloke I was speaking to at Veritas had seen it with another customer that Oracle had fobbed off on him before and was able to point to the metalink article that described the issue and the solution.
This shows several things...
1. I gave enough information for someone (just not the Oracle 3rd line 'expert') to identify the problem and find me the solution.
2. I was not the first person that had been in this position
3. Veritas staff are used to having to find Oracle solutions because Oracle try to get out of supporting their products by blaming someone else.
Sure - there is no RAC alternative. But that's less and less important to me these days with distributed caches. The only downside for me right now is that Oracle bought Tangosol, but at least I've got an SLA and won't have to pay anything more to Oracle for at least 3 more years.
Best. Analogy. EVAR!
I don't have a PC. I want to build Xbox 360 games. I have to spend money on Windows licenses, Microsoft development tools and licenses for the xbox. This is perfectly fair, and is commonly known as the cost of doing business.
And what do media players have to do with the subject at hand?
Nothing at all. But some people have an overinflated sense of their own intelligence, despite the fact that they clearly can't read and interpret pretty clear laws :D
If we're considering the entire software industry, no, Apple doesn't have a "monopoly". But neither does anyone else at the moment. Neither did Microsoft in the 1990s and early 2000s.
Microsoft had a de-facto monopoly during this period, and that is why the DOJ were able to prosecute them.
Further, they were never prosecuted for being a monopoly. They were prosecuted for unfairly using their existing monopoly in one space (desktop operating systems) to gain an unfair advantage over their competitors in another space (internet browser software in the USA and media player software in the EU).
Monopolies are not illegal at any time. Using a monopoly to gain an unfair advantage is what is illegal.
You really think that's how it works right now? Awwww cute!
For a lot of deployments, Oracle databases are deployed because a vendor of a product you want requires oracle. These vendors are often niche providers so you can't just choose someone else who doesn't have an oracle dependency. So you buy oracle.
Here's a fun game for you ... Phone Oracle and ask for a price to run Oracle 11i on 2 servers, one with 8 cores (2 x 4 way CPUs) and the other with 16 cores. Also, ask if there is a price difference if Hyperthreading is enabled. Tell me how long it takes to get that quote. And how many different people you have to speak to.
About halfway through the above little game, you'll realise I left out a load of key information that you need to get it. How many people will be accessing these databases? Will they be accessing as named users, or through a web portal? Oh, and don't forget about maintenance.
Oracle is a joke that stays around for now because they provide some things that no-one else does. No-one I work with (other than Oracle DBAs) seems to like using them, and we're always on the lookout for something else.
Any chance we get, we use something else.... Sybase ASE, MSSQL under Polyserve, PostgreSQL where it fits.
You need to persuade ME that you can support your products. Every chance I get, I replace Oracle products with non-Oracle products because I'm pretty much sick and tired of having to rely on some random guy at Veritas who has happened to see the same RAC problem as I am having when your tech monkeys force me to raise a ticket with my storage vendor because theyr'e too clueless to work out the problem.
About the only things I'm likely to keep (for now) are coherence and Java, just because there's nothing else out there that competes with it. But for most of my other needs, other products exist. MSSQL, JBoss, etc.
We don't get the support we pay for, not even on a level 1 outage, so I'll be damned if I ever spend another cent with Oracle that I don't have to.
Dood - just back off.... He's rad, 'k ?
Afternoon is absolutely NOT relative. At 1 second past 12:00 (also known as noon) it is ... wait for it ... after noon (also known as afternoon)!
UK Libraries are DIRE. When I moved here from South Africa, I was expecting them to be wonderful resources full of books and computers and a place to hang out.
Not so.
All 5 of the libraries that I have been to in London have been smaller and grubbier and had less of a selection than my old library in Brakpan. To be clear, Brakpan is a half assed town on the east rand in South Africa, and it really bowled me over to find that I had grown up with a better library there than I would have had access to in London, England!
Then why does apple keep that DRM on the app store?
The truth of the matter is, US immigration policy is far more lenient than most countries in the world
How many places have you lived and worked? I'm just curious, because I've lived and worked in 5 different countries (with 6 month - 1 year contracts in other places as well) so far, and I've _never_ found anywhere as hard to legally emigrate to as the USA.
The worst is the risk involved in trying to emigrate to the USA - for most places, I've been able to move there with a clear understanding of the route to settlement and citizenship, including requirements, timings and procedural steps. Short of winning the green card lottery, I can't see any predictable way to emigrate to the USA.
It's really not more lenient than most countries in the world, sorry.