Yeah... considering how many overweight people will be buying them, that haven't seen their junk in years, I don't think they are going to do all that great for this use.
Not to mention you will get motion sick trying to focus on a moving image...
I got one on Brutal Legend that still advertises a version that 'Includes the full game and a copy of the Original Soundtrack!' but, when you get it, it doesn't come with the 'MASSIVE metal soundtrack from every era of metal music: 1970’s classic metal to 1980’s hair metal to the scarier cousins of 1990’s metal. And of course, Jack Black pays the ultimate homage to metal as Eddie the Roadie, continuing the theme from the work of his band, Tenacious D and his previous films like School of Rock and High Fidelity.' instead, supplying you with the crappy orchestral pieces they used.
They seemed very reluctant to do the refund, and claimed (after I mentioned my consumer rights under Australian law) that the Australian consumer laws don't apply to them.
Following is transcript of the ticket: ----------
1 Message by you on Wed, 27th Feb 2013 3:06 am Extremely misleading advertising. Can you please refund my special 'soundtrack' version of this game and change it to a standard one. I wanted the soundtrack that the description specifically LISTS has over 100 metal tracks.
"Music
The music in Brütal Legend is truly massive. Made up of 108 of the most rocking tracks from 75 different bands representing every sub-genre of metal, it is something to experience in and of itself."
This is what your page's description gives, what I got was 20 tracks by someone I have never heard of. ---------- 2 Message by Support Tech Brad on Tue, 5th Mar 2013 5:04 pm Hello,
Thank you for contacting Steam Support. We apologize for the long delay in getting a response to you.
Steam Support has recently had a higher volume of tickets and we are working to respond to everyone.
We have found that many users have resolved their issues since submitting their ticket.
Many answers to common problems with this game can be found in the Discussion pages of the forum for this game: http://forums.steampowered.com...
If you are still experiencing issues, we would like to help you resolve them.
Steam support can assist you with issues related to the Steam client. Many issues with installation can be fixed by verifying the files for this game. You can find instructions for verifying the files here: http://support.steampowered.co...
If you are experiencing issues with this game after it has been installed, launched and is running you will need to contact the developer’s support department. They will be able to help you with in game issues, performance problems, and other similar bugs.
You can find the contact information for the third party Support on the store page for the game or through the following link: https://support.steampowered.c...
If we don’t receive a response from you, this ticket will automatically close. We really appreciate your understanding and patience while we continue to work with the increased ticket volume. ---------- 3 Message by you on Tue, 5th Mar 2013 6:47 pm Right, did you read my question? Can you please do as I requested?
If this cannot be resolved I will be required to contact my local consumer affairs, this is false advertising of the worst order. ---------- 4 Message by Support Tech Brad on Wed, 6th Mar 2013 11:30 am Hello Byron,
Thank you for contacting Steam Support.
As with most software products, we do not offer refunds or exchanges on games, DLC or in-game items purchased on our website or through the Steam Client.
As a one-time customer service gesture we can issue you store credit for the amount of your purchase into your Steam Wallet. The credit will also remove the title or item from your account.
Please confirm that you would like us to proceed with this credit. ---------- 5 Message by you on Wed, 6th Mar 2013 1:07 pm That would be appreci
What the ACCC is upset about is that they don't, as you say, offer refunds. The laws are quite clear in regards to what must be refunded/replaced. If the product is not of merchantable quality, it must be refunded. If the product breaks within the accepted lifespan, it can be refunded, repaired or replaced (this could cover things like a honorific patch for a game that is force-installed).
And while measuring if the game runs might be one metric, it most certainly shouldn't be the only. For example: new Dungeon Defenders game, when you hit play in steam, it loads its own launcher that then downloads the game. I have 'played' for 6 hours and still never actually gotten into the game.
The case is in regards to them advertising that there are no refunds allowed, they are most certainly NOT allowed to do that. Note, if the product is not of merchantable quality, they can also be refunded (so no more buying a game that runs terribly or crashes a lot).
Yeah, but they don't give you the refund because of consumer law, they give it to shut you up.
I have gotten refunds off them in the past, and mentioned this law in the request and they stated it doesn't apply to them. I guess the ACCC think otherwise.
Who determines the "worth" of a web site or other online resource, and then allocates them their cut?
Easy, take the amount of cat videos on each and every web site and then divide the money even... wait a second, google would get nearly all of it... on the other hand, best to just give it all to them and let them rule, can't be worse than any government (in any country you could pick).
But it was a random blood sugar test that diagnosed me T1 diabetes and a random blood pressure check that diagnosed me high blood pressure (and saved my life, if the 240/160 reading was anything to go by).
So no, I would have to say phoning it in would be as terrible an idea as... phoning it in.
Considering how particular the man is about programming languages, he failed if it was a reference because Sloth was the guy's name (Note: capitalization).
For MUF (an online-game variant of forth) I use notepad++ because there is no IDE that supports it and frequently, while working within this language I am also supporting JS, SQL, HTML and needing something to parse JSON.
As for LUA, again, notepad++ because it is there and just works.
Link? The only benchmark lists I could find there only tested FPS. And we all know that such tests are quite silly now as quality and to some extent latency are important these days.
Slashdot Mirror
Yeah... considering how many overweight people will be buying them, that haven't seen their junk in years, I don't think they are going to do all that great for this use.
Not to mention you will get motion sick trying to focus on a moving image...
http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/...
My PC is a gaming PC, OS and applications is about 1.1 TB of storage on it.
Also, here, $50 will not get you an SSD. For around $100 I can get a 80GB one, but anything over 100GB quickly rise to hundreds of dollars+.
I got one on Brutal Legend that still advertises a version that 'Includes the full game and a copy of the Original Soundtrack!' but, when you get it, it doesn't come with the 'MASSIVE metal soundtrack from every era of metal music: 1970’s classic metal to 1980’s hair metal to the scarier cousins of 1990’s metal. And of course, Jack Black pays the ultimate homage to metal as Eddie the Roadie, continuing the theme from the work of his band, Tenacious D and his previous films like School of Rock and High Fidelity.' instead, supplying you with the crappy orchestral pieces they used.
They seemed very reluctant to do the refund, and claimed (after I mentioned my consumer rights under Australian law) that the Australian consumer laws don't apply to them.
Following is transcript of the ticket:
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1 Message by you on Wed, 27th Feb 2013 3:06 am
Extremely misleading advertising. Can you please refund my special 'soundtrack' version of this game and change it to a standard one. I wanted the soundtrack that the description specifically LISTS has over 100 metal tracks.
"Music
The music in Brütal Legend is truly massive. Made up of 108 of the most rocking tracks from 75 different bands representing every sub-genre of metal, it is something to experience in and of itself."
This is what your page's description gives, what I got was 20 tracks by someone I have never heard of.
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2 Message by Support Tech Brad on Tue, 5th Mar 2013 5:04 pm
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Steam Support. We apologize for the long delay in getting a response to you.
Steam Support has recently had a higher volume of tickets and we are working to respond to everyone.
We have found that many users have resolved their issues since submitting their ticket.
Many answers to common problems with this game can be found in the Discussion pages of the forum for this game: http://forums.steampowered.com...
If you are still experiencing issues, we would like to help you resolve them.
Steam support can assist you with issues related to the Steam client. Many issues with installation can be fixed by verifying the files for this game. You can find instructions for verifying the files here: http://support.steampowered.co...
If you are experiencing issues with this game after it has been installed, launched and is running you will need to contact the developer’s support department. They will be able to help you with in game issues, performance problems, and other similar bugs.
You can find the contact information for the third party Support on the store page for the game or through the following link: https://support.steampowered.c...
If we don’t receive a response from you, this ticket will automatically close. We really appreciate your understanding and patience while we continue to work with the increased ticket volume.
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3 Message by you on Tue, 5th Mar 2013 6:47 pm
Right, did you read my question? Can you please do as I requested?
If this cannot be resolved I will be required to contact my local consumer affairs, this is false advertising of the worst order.
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4 Message by Support Tech Brad on Wed, 6th Mar 2013 11:30 am
Hello Byron,
Thank you for contacting Steam Support.
As with most software products, we do not offer refunds or exchanges on games, DLC or in-game items purchased on our website or through the Steam Client.
As a one-time customer service gesture we can issue you store credit for the amount of your purchase into your Steam Wallet. The credit will also remove the title or item from your account.
Please confirm that you would like us to proceed with this credit.
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5 Message by you on Wed, 6th Mar 2013 1:07 pm
That would be appreci
They do refunds, but only if you push.
What the ACCC is upset about is that they don't, as you say, offer refunds. The laws are quite clear in regards to what must be refunded/replaced. If the product is not of merchantable quality, it must be refunded. If the product breaks within the accepted lifespan, it can be refunded, repaired or replaced (this could cover things like a honorific patch for a game that is force-installed).
And while measuring if the game runs might be one metric, it most certainly shouldn't be the only. For example: new Dungeon Defenders game, when you hit play in steam, it loads its own launcher that then downloads the game. I have 'played' for 6 hours and still never actually gotten into the game.
They already can process refunds, I know that.
The case is in regards to them advertising that there are no refunds allowed, they are most certainly NOT allowed to do that. Note, if the product is not of merchantable quality, they can also be refunded (so no more buying a game that runs terribly or crashes a lot).
Yeah, but they don't give you the refund because of consumer law, they give it to shut you up.
I have gotten refunds off them in the past, and mentioned this law in the request and they stated it doesn't apply to them. I guess the ACCC think otherwise.
"one of every two" -- so, every other household
Forever alone?
I mean to say, this is a household of three adults and all three use youtube (on PCs, phones and ps3).
Who determines the "worth" of a web site or other online resource, and then allocates them their cut?
Easy, take the amount of cat videos on each and every web site and then divide the money even... wait a second, google would get nearly all of it... on the other hand, best to just give it all to them and let them rule, can't be worse than any government (in any country you could pick).
I don't get it, how will a gun give them a firm texture and a slightly nutty taste?
And this will stop one of the worst epidemics of the modern age (T2 diabetes) how?
These are not the only things that need to be tested, regular check-ups should never be done away with.
Both their borders just closed, you are too late.
Too late, they closed their borders and... there goes Madagascar too.
But it was a random blood sugar test that diagnosed me T1 diabetes and a random blood pressure check that diagnosed me high blood pressure (and saved my life, if the 240/160 reading was anything to go by).
So no, I would have to say phoning it in would be as terrible an idea as... phoning it in.
How big is your camera?
Considering how particular the man is about programming languages, he failed if it was a reference because Sloth was the guy's name (Note: capitalization).
Right, in Australia they have made laws to this effect. If you advertise something as 'unlimited' it must be without any limit.
Except this was done in southern Victoria, It is about 10C there on average at the moment.
They should really fix that. I mean, having to take your eyes off the road even more just to make sure it has posted properly is dangerous!
There you go assuming again. Assuming that this was ever going to be about bitcoin != money.
You know what they say about assuming. It makes an ass of you and ming. Poor ming.
For MUF (an online-game variant of forth) I use notepad++ because there is no IDE that supports it and frequently, while working within this language I am also supporting JS, SQL, HTML and needing something to parse JSON.
As for LUA, again, notepad++ because it is there and just works.
Ah, no. Freedom.
Eh, freedom for me. They said I hadn't done anything, so I could go free and live on an island somewhere.
Naa, I'm only pulling your leg. It's crucifixion, really.
Link? The only benchmark lists I could find there only tested FPS. And we all know that such tests are quite silly now as quality and to some extent latency are important these days.
Oh hell, is this another W vs W RMS thing? I thought we had given up and just measured things in libraries of congress?
Speaking of, how quiet is that, I figure it being a library it would be quiet...
If the chip doesn't work, just get a new card issued?