We don't all spend our time next to our PC, or wifi. Driving for instance is an example where 3G data caps make a huge difference. At lets not forget huge spans of EDGE or GSM, where data is too slow to even stream. And at least in the US and Canada you could only transfer the total GB of an iPod well under 2 times a month over Comcast (250GB cap), and less than once over AT&T (150GB) even on a home connection. So for many of us at least; no we cannot transfer it "several times", but I suspect you already knew this and just wanted to make a point.
At $299 call it whatever you want. That's profit no matter how you cut it. And thanks for ignoring the point about bandwidth and "cloud" storage- how else could you try and strawman me into a fool. Cuz we all know how cheap mobile GB's are right?
I too am not thrilled about the new Maps. However, I'm certain Google will release a standalone app, just like the new Youtube app came out a few days ago in anticipation of being no longer bundled.
None of those reasons describe why a company wouldn't sell HDD players. Perhaps you meant to say that demand is down for these types of player, cuz ya know... that's something that actually motivates a company not battery/physical size or built price (consumers get charged for all that). I'm sure demand is down, but the "cloud" won't let me download dozens of gigs, or access my stuff in the wilderness/middle of nowhere.
It looks to still be available in the store too. I sure hope they stay. I've got a smartphone for my top 500 and some videos, but nothing works on a month long hiking trip as well as a Classic and a solar charger.
For years now the HDD based iPod Classic has survived new iPods of various names and specs, but it gets at best a mention once a year. Will we still see it for again survive another year? I sure hope so, because HDD based players are getting harder and harder to find.
Well from the rumors you won't have to wait long for iMacs and mini iPad or whatever they call it. They did however announce a new Nano and Touch which while seasonal, was a little unexpected. The Nano is fairly interesting and a pretty clear reverse course from the crappy square last gen model. Killing video was dumb dumb dumb even if it's just a a checklist point. Surprised not to see a return of (basic) video capture Nano though.
Well you likely won't see it today. No way Apple will toss out a new Mini iPad or anything else that could steal the thunder and hype from this announcement. Perhaps early October?
Agreed. Slashdot loves to do this, in a desperate attempt to seem up to the minute and hip. Instead it just becomes a cluster-f of posts that become outdated the moment they are posted as new info comes out.
As somebody who never got to play around with Be, I'm really impressed with how Haiku works and looks. It's simple, but fast and pleasant to use. Can't wait for the next Alpha release, since I'm too lazy to mess with the nightlies.
He was, it was you who were confusing and confused. The world has enough people who won't admit they were mistaken and instead turn confrontational. They don't need you in their club.
While I do appreciate you letting us know the potential of BB10, I think where you are mistaken is expecting RIM to do anything intelligent to take advantage of these possibilities and strengths. QNX is solid, and the one phone to rule them all is very nifty. But with the people running RIM none of this matters. The thought of them having the foresight to follow your suggestions is just unrealistic. It's sad in a way that BB10 like WebOS will likely be remembered for what it could have been, had management not been so out of touch. I pray that you are right and I'm wrong though. Because we need more than 2 players, and Microsoft's mobile strategy makes RIM's look sane and measured by comparison.
Yeah required to code for X doesn't say shit about efficiency running on X. While not in the same position and required by legal ruling, MS Office for Mac is a total dog as an example. And I'm sure it isn't because MS doesn't have the resources. I expect Itanium Oracleware to be horrifying in every way possible. At the same time HP has an ace too, because as long as they ship, Oracle needs to code for it. Imagine a (unlikely) 2ghz 2013 model Itanic still getting a 10 unit ship in 2031 (for contract support har har har). If HP builds it Oracle has to support it according to TFA. I see no unit shipment size referenced. Yup Oracle we expect a current version for our internally shipped small batch hand assembled boxes they will demand. HP is mean too, and they buy lots of support parts, so if you think the end of the Intel Itanium fab will kill the chip, think again. Good news for the few folks who bothered to learn the platform. Just depends on how far both sides will go to screw each other. Knowing these 2, expect to hear more and more in the future.
Being a trustworthy hardware entity isn't really the HP Way since at least the late 90's. Now it's just the same shit Dell and Acer and the rest sell, but with a roll of the dice CEO and enough money from printers to pretend that they still have anything to bring to the table. Innovation is a four letter as they have selected the role of yet another OEM. HP used to be awesome, now... not so much. Still Oracle laid their bed on this one, and HP is just treating them the way they would have treated HP if the roles were flipped.
Fair, but I didn't read it quite the same. Either way, even if one agrees to shitty terms, they are still bound; unless illegal- not the case here. The fact that it had to do with Hurd just adds to the drama nothing more. From TFA it sounds like they are stuck rearranging deckchairs on the S.S. Itanic until HP kills it. That's ano doubt a shitty deal for them to agree to, especially for the Hurd turd. But again, nobody forced them to agree to this. And like one of the poster's mentioned, I'm sure their new updates will be total garbage from the team that brings us the HP printer software "suite". I guess shitty deals go both ways on this one.
But if Oracle was stupid enough to agree to support a chip for a long period based on Intel and HP's suggestion of everlasting server dominance, then they deserve what they get. Oracle should have bothered to do a little research, and if they had they would have realized Itanium was the turd most of us "little people" figured even at the time.The term Itanic wasn't coined yesterday or for no reason Mr Ellison.
On the login page it lets us know this is a "Preview of modern email from Microsoft". So are they admitting Hotmail/Livemail is a pile of shit and we are all suckers for using it?
Mac user or not Quicken like Intuit is a joke of a "pro" software company. When Symantec looks to hire people who can pack more useless lines of CPU hogging code they must hire from these guys. How this company has kept it's niche is beyond me.
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We don't all spend our time next to our PC, or wifi. Driving for instance is an example where 3G data caps make a huge difference. At lets not forget huge spans of EDGE or GSM, where data is too slow to even stream. And at least in the US and Canada you could only transfer the total GB of an iPod well under 2 times a month over Comcast (250GB cap), and less than once over AT&T (150GB) even on a home connection. So for many of us at least; no we cannot transfer it "several times", but I suspect you already knew this and just wanted to make a point.
At $299 call it whatever you want. That's profit no matter how you cut it. And thanks for ignoring the point about bandwidth and "cloud" storage- how else could you try and strawman me into a fool. Cuz we all know how cheap mobile GB's are right?
Well it wasn't sweaty Balmer you saw that's for sure.
I too am not thrilled about the new Maps. However, I'm certain Google will release a standalone app, just like the new Youtube app came out a few days ago in anticipation of being no longer bundled.
None of those reasons describe why a company wouldn't sell HDD players. Perhaps you meant to say that demand is down for these types of player, cuz ya know... that's something that actually motivates a company not battery/physical size or built price (consumers get charged for all that). I'm sure demand is down, but the "cloud" won't let me download dozens of gigs, or access my stuff in the wilderness/middle of nowhere.
It looks to still be available in the store too. I sure hope they stay. I've got a smartphone for my top 500 and some videos, but nothing works on a month long hiking trip as well as a Classic and a solar charger.
You sir, are a sack of shit.
For years now the HDD based iPod Classic has survived new iPods of various names and specs, but it gets at best a mention once a year. Will we still see it for again survive another year? I sure hope so, because HDD based players are getting harder and harder to find.
Well from the rumors you won't have to wait long for iMacs and mini iPad or whatever they call it. They did however announce a new Nano and Touch which while seasonal, was a little unexpected. The Nano is fairly interesting and a pretty clear reverse course from the crappy square last gen model. Killing video was dumb dumb dumb even if it's just a a checklist point. Surprised not to see a return of (basic) video capture Nano though.
Well you likely won't see it today. No way Apple will toss out a new Mini iPad or anything else that could steal the thunder and hype from this announcement. Perhaps early October?
Agreed. Slashdot loves to do this, in a desperate attempt to seem up to the minute and hip. Instead it just becomes a cluster-f of posts that become outdated the moment they are posted as new info comes out.
As somebody who never got to play around with Be, I'm really impressed with how Haiku works and looks. It's simple, but fast and pleasant to use. Can't wait for the next Alpha release, since I'm too lazy to mess with the nightlies.
Even the license isn't the same... but whatever makes you feel better.
He was, it was you who were confusing and confused. The world has enough people who won't admit they were mistaken and instead turn confrontational. They don't need you in their club.
While I do appreciate you letting us know the potential of BB10, I think where you are mistaken is expecting RIM to do anything intelligent to take advantage of these possibilities and strengths. QNX is solid, and the one phone to rule them all is very nifty. But with the people running RIM none of this matters. The thought of them having the foresight to follow your suggestions is just unrealistic. It's sad in a way that BB10 like WebOS will likely be remembered for what it could have been, had management not been so out of touch. I pray that you are right and I'm wrong though. Because we need more than 2 players, and Microsoft's mobile strategy makes RIM's look sane and measured by comparison.
True, but not to the level that it sucks on Windows. Safari is another great example. Usable on a Mac, horseshit and bloatware on a PC.
Yeah required to code for X doesn't say shit about efficiency running on X. While not in the same position and required by legal ruling, MS Office for Mac is a total dog as an example. And I'm sure it isn't because MS doesn't have the resources. I expect Itanium Oracleware to be horrifying in every way possible. At the same time HP has an ace too, because as long as they ship, Oracle needs to code for it. Imagine a (unlikely) 2ghz 2013 model Itanic still getting a 10 unit ship in 2031 (for contract support har har har). If HP builds it Oracle has to support it according to TFA. I see no unit shipment size referenced. Yup Oracle we expect a current version for our internally shipped small batch hand assembled boxes they will demand. HP is mean too, and they buy lots of support parts, so if you think the end of the Intel Itanium fab will kill the chip, think again. Good news for the few folks who bothered to learn the platform. Just depends on how far both sides will go to screw each other. Knowing these 2, expect to hear more and more in the future.
Being a trustworthy hardware entity isn't really the HP Way since at least the late 90's. Now it's just the same shit Dell and Acer and the rest sell, but with a roll of the dice CEO and enough money from printers to pretend that they still have anything to bring to the table. Innovation is a four letter as they have selected the role of yet another OEM. HP used to be awesome, now... not so much. Still Oracle laid their bed on this one, and HP is just treating them the way they would have treated HP if the roles were flipped.
Fair, but I didn't read it quite the same. Either way, even if one agrees to shitty terms, they are still bound; unless illegal- not the case here. The fact that it had to do with Hurd just adds to the drama nothing more. From TFA it sounds like they are stuck rearranging deckchairs on the S.S. Itanic until HP kills it. That's ano doubt a shitty deal for them to agree to, especially for the Hurd turd. But again, nobody forced them to agree to this. And like one of the poster's mentioned, I'm sure their new updates will be total garbage from the team that brings us the HP printer software "suite". I guess shitty deals go both ways on this one.
But if Oracle was stupid enough to agree to support a chip for a long period based on Intel and HP's suggestion of everlasting server dominance, then they deserve what they get. Oracle should have bothered to do a little research, and if they had they would have realized Itanium was the turd most of us "little people" figured even at the time.The term Itanic wasn't coined yesterday or for no reason Mr Ellison.
On the login page it lets us know this is a "Preview of modern email from Microsoft". So are they admitting Hotmail/Livemail is a pile of shit and we are all suckers for using it?
Because of course, satan only knows most people have more than one email...
Mac user or not Quicken like Intuit is a joke of a "pro" software company. When Symantec looks to hire people who can pack more useless lines of CPU hogging code they must hire from these guys. How this company has kept it's niche is beyond me.
Indeed, as the parent you nailed what I actually meant.