Henceforth, you have been deemed irrational and of questionable mental state. It is pointless to continue to talk to a person who dismisses entire areas of academia including logical syllogism which has been around for thousands of years originating with the ancient Greek Philosophers. You live in your own narcissistic parallel universe where everything revolves around you and there is only one truth: you are right and everyone else is wrong. Congratulations. I don't care dude. Live in your fantasy world. If that's what it takes for you to cope with your life because your too much of a wuss to deal with reality, it's cool. I understand. Sorry to hear that you're weak.
And here we go... you say "GP is appealing to authority". Excuse me but fuck you. I made no statement about my opinions of collectivism vs. individualism to base that claim on. I am merely stating facts. See, I can state facts whether they align with my personal preferences or not. Just because I share peer-reviewed information doesn't mean I like it. That's the thing about facts, they are true whether you like them or not and whether you believe them or not. You're either interested in knowing the truth of what is going on or you're not.
If you expect me to take your claims seriously without any evidence or reason, then you are not of sound mind. I just dismiss you as a lot of useless talk.
i wrote like almost exactly the same thing a week ago...
hey, I wrote like almost exactly the same thing a week.... hold on there's a knock at the door... ARRRRRGHHHHHH, you can't do that (smack) (biff) (bam) (pow!)
i wrote like almost exactly the same thing a week ago...
hey, I wrote like almost exactly the same thing a week.... hold on there's a knock at the door... ARRRRRGHHHHHH, you can't do that (smack) (biff) (bam) (pow!)
If I had mod points I would give them to you. You are actually a more reasonable than typical game developer. This is especially true considering that you don't have a subscription fee or require people to pay for the game client. Wow. You are actually relying on the fan base to support the game because they like your game not because you are strong arming them to pay for it. The thinking there is that if you produce a quality MMO, your players will want to support you to continue to deliver content. That's perfectly reasonable. I don't know why someone wouldn't think this is reasonable. Game developers have to pay taxes, rent, buy food, etc. Do you really think they're going to work a full time corporate job and then make stuff for you for free? No. Would you do that for them? No. Thanks for writing your post!
Wish I had mod points for you. Even though you didn't state the specific fact associated with your claim, this is the most factual thing I've read in this discussion that isn't mostly or wholly composed of conjecture.
so claiming that horseshit is like claiming that buying DVDs instead of stealing is "supporting DRM" despite the fact that DVD encryption has been broken since Bush Senior was in the white house.
I notice you didn't mention blu-ray.:) And you know why. Do you have a VHS collection and a rotary phone too? It's 2018, you know...
There is nothing to be wrong about. Am I right that there are no such things a pink flying unicorns? Probably but there are probably also not talking teapots, dogs with octopus tentacles and so forth. What is the point of enumerating through the set of things that doesn't exist? It's a waste of time and has no value.
Even if they can't do anything with their code, they refuse to let go. And when the copyright finally expires sometime next century, no one will be alive who remembers the game and no hardware exists which contains the code. Such is life with digital ephemera.
Don't like the law? Write a letter to your state representatives.
Mystery EOL where keeping the product functioning requires continued spending on the manufacturer's part should not be permitted under law.
This is where you and I have a difference of opinion. You have a liberal position. You want government to dictate to product manufacturers what they can and can't sell to you. If a game manufacturer sold you a product with a guaranteed multiplayer online 2 year experience and fulfilled that obligation, you're saying you want the government to tell them they can't produce a product like that because it's unfair in your opinion. I say, sell whatever you want in that regard just make it CRYSTAL CLEAR what is being purchased so that me, the consumer, can decide whether I think it's worth the money or not. That's a Libertarian point of view.
You obviously don't understand how peer reviewed claims come to be accepted by an academic community. There are several problems with your content:
1) It doesn't state your claim proposition clearly
2) There is no evidence or logic supplied to support your position
3) Your statements are solely composed of conjecture and anecdotes which you should know cannot form the basis for an argument
I'd be really interested in your thoughts if you can state them as clearly as Harvard University can. I can understand their lecture clearly but I do not understand you but I am interested if you can make it coherent what you are trying to present.
The difference between Harvard's claim and your claim is that Harvard actually has data as you can see in the lecture. And the data spans a significant amount time. What do you have to support your position to disagree with Harvard University's professors?
Democracy in context of modern western state is a system of electing political representative based on established ruleset in a democratic fashion.
You are correct. But there is a problem and it was identified by Harvard University that what we see, as the result of the Great Recession, is excessive fragmentation in political parties. What that means is that due to that fragmentation, Congress is not effectively making decisions because there is SIGNIFICANT political in-fighting. This results in the, for all intents and purposes, indecisive lawmaking that we have observed for some time in Congress that citizens are frustrated with. In that context, Democracy actually doesn't work. It results in an indecisive Congress that does nothing instead of something. I don't know what the solution to that problem is other than to ride out the transition while the Conservative and Liberal parties redefine themselves. The Great Recession significantly altered America and Western Europe.
You're going to get modded into oblivion sadly. I agree with you. Look, I get it, Trump is an asshole. He doesn't exactly give people the warm fuzzies. But he's not stupid enough to condone lowering the Federal Reserve prime rate at a time when every economics expert would tell you not to and create the housing bubble that led to the foreclosure crisis. That's way more important than what anyone thinks about his personality. I care about my quality of life and if it takes a leader with actual balls to make that happen, I'm all for it. I don't care how it gets done.
I just checked, there is no such right [to not have your business hurt].
That is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Businesses and individuals alike have rights, property rights among them, as defined by the laws of the United States and relative State Laws and statutes. There are no laws that I'm aware of that have anything to do with your conceptual idea "not have your business hurt" or "have your business thrive". You are afforded the ability to start a business per the laws of the United States and related State laws and statutes. That's it, period. If you want to talk in terms of citing actual laws and statutes that are actually relevant to the conversation or even if you want to propose that a law or statute should be changed or added then you would be on topic. Your post is absolutely off topic and is very much absurd and adds no value to this conversation.
If, on the shrink wrapped box, it says you are buying the ability to play online then online multiplayer play is part of the "product". If you purchased this product then you, per the terms and conditions of the product, are entitled to the online multiplayer play component because that's what was sold as part of the product. If the product says "we only guarantee access to multiplayer online play for 2 years" and they give it to you for 2 years and then take down the servers, that's what you paid for. Probably what game manufacturers need to do is be more specific about what you are actually purchasing such that it constitutes a legally binding agreement. For example, this is no different than a product warranty. If you guarantee a product warranty, you the manufacturer are required to comply with the terms and conditions of the warranty. The product manufacturer can't just say "Oh I don't feel like honoring the warranty". Obviously an alternative to being obligated to host multiplayer servers is to let the community do it. ID Software and EPIC did this all the time and it didn't hurt them financially. I don't see what the problem is.
I'm pretty sure making sure your furnace works in the winter time or that your sump pump works when it rains a lot is more important than fixing your smart phone. But what do I know.
There is no shortage of need for auto maintenance or home repairs/renovation. Remember, the computer geeks that don't know how to use a drill will need someone to fix things for them when they have those high paying robotics and AI jobs. They usually pay really well too.
Then the Dems should hire them to do botnets. However they did it, it's the most amazing and cost effective campaign the world has ever seen, apparently.
I'm not saying the Russians actually did that. I think that claim is probably is absurd. But IF they did do it, they certainly wouldn't do it in the manner you described. That would be stupid. The Russians aren't stupid. Their educational system in terms of STEM fields is much better than ours.
BTW, if you really think these 8o Russians and their tiny Facebook ad buy decided the election, then I highly recommend that you hire them. They are the most amazing marketers ever.
You really think these 80 russians were posting propaganda to Facebook in the same manner that Indians run scam call centers? Nay. They wrote software to spread the propaganda for them in a very highly efficient manner... botnet style...
Slashdot Mirror
Henceforth, you have been deemed irrational and of questionable mental state. It is pointless to continue to talk to a person who dismisses entire areas of academia including logical syllogism which has been around for thousands of years originating with the ancient Greek Philosophers. You live in your own narcissistic parallel universe where everything revolves around you and there is only one truth: you are right and everyone else is wrong. Congratulations. I don't care dude. Live in your fantasy world. If that's what it takes for you to cope with your life because your too much of a wuss to deal with reality, it's cool. I understand. Sorry to hear that you're weak.
And here we go... you say "GP is appealing to authority". Excuse me but fuck you. I made no statement about my opinions of collectivism vs. individualism to base that claim on. I am merely stating facts. See, I can state facts whether they align with my personal preferences or not. Just because I share peer-reviewed information doesn't mean I like it. That's the thing about facts, they are true whether you like them or not and whether you believe them or not. You're either interested in knowing the truth of what is going on or you're not.
If you expect me to take your claims seriously without any evidence or reason, then you are not of sound mind. I just dismiss you as a lot of useless talk.
i wrote like almost exactly the same thing a week ago...
hey, I wrote like almost exactly the same thing a week.... hold on there's a knock at the door... ARRRRRGHHHHHH, you can't do that (smack) (biff) (bam) (pow!)
++NO CARRIER
i wrote like almost exactly the same thing a week ago...
hey, I wrote like almost exactly the same thing a week.... hold on there's a knock at the door... ARRRRRGHHHHHH, you can't do that (smack) (biff) (bam) (pow!)
++NO CARRIER
If I had mod points I would give them to you. You are actually a more reasonable than typical game developer. This is especially true considering that you don't have a subscription fee or require people to pay for the game client. Wow. You are actually relying on the fan base to support the game because they like your game not because you are strong arming them to pay for it. The thinking there is that if you produce a quality MMO, your players will want to support you to continue to deliver content. That's perfectly reasonable. I don't know why someone wouldn't think this is reasonable. Game developers have to pay taxes, rent, buy food, etc. Do you really think they're going to work a full time corporate job and then make stuff for you for free? No. Would you do that for them? No. Thanks for writing your post!
Wish I had mod points for you. Even though you didn't state the specific fact associated with your claim, this is the most factual thing I've read in this discussion that isn't mostly or wholly composed of conjecture.
so claiming that horseshit is like claiming that buying DVDs instead of stealing is "supporting DRM" despite the fact that DVD encryption has been broken since Bush Senior was in the white house.
I notice you didn't mention blu-ray. :) And you know why. Do you have a VHS collection and a rotary phone too? It's 2018, you know...
Wait, is he wrong or not? Sound like not.
There is nothing to be wrong about. Am I right that there are no such things a pink flying unicorns? Probably but there are probably also not talking teapots, dogs with octopus tentacles and so forth. What is the point of enumerating through the set of things that doesn't exist? It's a waste of time and has no value.
Most Steam users talk about it like it's the second coming of Jesus
I thought it was more like the 5th coming of the Flying Spaghetti Monster personally
So write your own software that isn't like this and offer it to us if you don't like the way the big companies do it?
Even if they can't do anything with their code, they refuse to let go. And when the copyright finally expires sometime next century, no one will be alive who remembers the game and no hardware exists which contains the code. Such is life with digital ephemera.
Don't like the law? Write a letter to your state representatives.
Mystery EOL where keeping the product functioning requires continued spending on the manufacturer's part should not be permitted under law.
This is where you and I have a difference of opinion. You have a liberal position. You want government to dictate to product manufacturers what they can and can't sell to you. If a game manufacturer sold you a product with a guaranteed multiplayer online 2 year experience and fulfilled that obligation, you're saying you want the government to tell them they can't produce a product like that because it's unfair in your opinion. I say, sell whatever you want in that regard just make it CRYSTAL CLEAR what is being purchased so that me, the consumer, can decide whether I think it's worth the money or not. That's a Libertarian point of view.
You obviously don't understand how peer reviewed claims come to be accepted by an academic community. There are several problems with your content:
1) It doesn't state your claim proposition clearly
2) There is no evidence or logic supplied to support your position
3) Your statements are solely composed of conjecture and anecdotes which you should know cannot form the basis for an argument
I'd be really interested in your thoughts if you can state them as clearly as Harvard University can. I can understand their lecture clearly but I do not understand you but I am interested if you can make it coherent what you are trying to present.
The difference between Harvard's claim and your claim is that Harvard actually has data as you can see in the lecture. And the data spans a significant amount time. What do you have to support your position to disagree with Harvard University's professors?
Democracy in context of modern western state is a system of electing political representative based on established ruleset in a democratic fashion.
You are correct. But there is a problem and it was identified by Harvard University that what we see, as the result of the Great Recession, is excessive fragmentation in political parties. What that means is that due to that fragmentation, Congress is not effectively making decisions because there is SIGNIFICANT political in-fighting. This results in the, for all intents and purposes, indecisive lawmaking that we have observed for some time in Congress that citizens are frustrated with. In that context, Democracy actually doesn't work. It results in an indecisive Congress that does nothing instead of something. I don't know what the solution to that problem is other than to ride out the transition while the Conservative and Liberal parties redefine themselves. The Great Recession significantly altered America and Western Europe.
If you're interested, here is the Harvard Lecture entitled "Globalization and the Backlash of Populism" by Mark Blyth on the subject.
You're going to get modded into oblivion sadly. I agree with you. Look, I get it, Trump is an asshole. He doesn't exactly give people the warm fuzzies. But he's not stupid enough to condone lowering the Federal Reserve prime rate at a time when every economics expert would tell you not to and create the housing bubble that led to the foreclosure crisis. That's way more important than what anyone thinks about his personality. I care about my quality of life and if it takes a leader with actual balls to make that happen, I'm all for it. I don't care how it gets done.
I just checked, there is no such right [to not have your business hurt].
That is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Businesses and individuals alike have rights, property rights among them, as defined by the laws of the United States and relative State Laws and statutes. There are no laws that I'm aware of that have anything to do with your conceptual idea "not have your business hurt" or "have your business thrive". You are afforded the ability to start a business per the laws of the United States and related State laws and statutes. That's it, period. If you want to talk in terms of citing actual laws and statutes that are actually relevant to the conversation or even if you want to propose that a law or statute should be changed or added then you would be on topic. Your post is absolutely off topic and is very much absurd and adds no value to this conversation.
If, on the shrink wrapped box, it says you are buying the ability to play online then online multiplayer play is part of the "product". If you purchased this product then you, per the terms and conditions of the product, are entitled to the online multiplayer play component because that's what was sold as part of the product. If the product says "we only guarantee access to multiplayer online play for 2 years" and they give it to you for 2 years and then take down the servers, that's what you paid for. Probably what game manufacturers need to do is be more specific about what you are actually purchasing such that it constitutes a legally binding agreement. For example, this is no different than a product warranty. If you guarantee a product warranty, you the manufacturer are required to comply with the terms and conditions of the warranty. The product manufacturer can't just say "Oh I don't feel like honoring the warranty". Obviously an alternative to being obligated to host multiplayer servers is to let the community do it. ID Software and EPIC did this all the time and it didn't hurt them financially. I don't see what the problem is.
I'm pretty sure making sure your furnace works in the winter time or that your sump pump works when it rains a lot is more important than fixing your smart phone. But what do I know.
There is no shortage of need for auto maintenance or home repairs/renovation. Remember, the computer geeks that don't know how to use a drill will need someone to fix things for them when they have those high paying robotics and AI jobs. They usually pay really well too.
Then the Dems should hire them to do botnets. However they did it, it's the most amazing and cost effective campaign the world has ever seen, apparently.
I'm not saying the Russians actually did that. I think that claim is probably is absurd. But IF they did do it, they certainly wouldn't do it in the manner you described. That would be stupid. The Russians aren't stupid. Their educational system in terms of STEM fields is much better than ours.
BTW, if you really think these 8o Russians and their tiny Facebook ad buy decided the election, then I highly recommend that you hire them. They are the most amazing marketers ever.
You really think these 80 russians were posting propaganda to Facebook in the same manner that Indians run scam call centers? Nay. They wrote software to spread the propaganda for them in a very highly efficient manner... botnet style...
So it's a game about a fictitious social media site full of memes... you don't need a game for that...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...