Muad'Dib is wise in the ways of the desert. Muad'Dib creates his own water. Muad'Dib hides from the sun and travels in the cool night. Muad'Dib is fruitful and multiplies over the land. Muad'Dib we call 'instructor-of-boys.' That is a powerful base on which to build your life, Paul Muad'Dib, who is Usul among us.
Well, if you have a, say, rectangular lawn, and you start making a circle -- imagine the Japanese flag with the inner circle being bigger and touching the edges -- what then? How can you cut the four remaining separate (and very awkwardly shaped) corner bits while still coming out ahead?
Or maybe not a literal circle was meant, but more like going from the outside to the inside, in a spiraling fashion, with 90Â degree turns instead of the regular ones?
"Show me a man or a woman alone and I'll show you a saint. Give me two and they'll fall in love. Give me three and they'll invent the charming thing we call 'society'. Give me four and they'll build a pyramid. Give me five and they'll make one an outcast. Give me six and they'll reinvent prejudice. Give me seven and in seven years they'll reinvent warfare. Man may have been made in the image of God, but human society was made in the image of His opposite number, and is always trying to get back home."
Now here I go, Hope I don't break down, I won't take anything, I don't need anything, Don't want to exist, I can't persist, Please stop before I do it again, Just talk about nothing, let's talk about nothing, Let's talk about no one, please talk about no one, someone, anyone
You and me have a disease, You affect me, you infect me, I'm afflicted, you're addicted, You and me, you and me
15 months after the massacre in Du'jail for which Saddam was eventually hanged in 2006, Reagan's Special Envoy to the Middle East, Donald Rumsfeld is in Iraq is shaking Saddam Hussein's hand and pledging our support in his war against Iran.
Date: Dec 20, 1983.
If killing people and attacking countries is enough for you to call for invasion and hanging, I assume you would be fine with the US being invaded and roughly a gazillion people being finally tried for their crimes?
And why stop with Saddam? There are so many way more brutal dictators around the world, so what gives? Are you unaware that the US govt actively supported worse than him, or are you just chosing to ignore it? Don't even pretend: his crime wasn't that he "invaded his neighboring country", but that he did so on his own accord, disobeying the US. That's what made him an enemy, not the gassing or being a dictator. And then there is the fact that the US was always keen on controlling the oil in that region... so either you play along or you get replaced, that is all; how brutal you are doesn't play into it other than that you get lauded for it while you follow orders, and demonized otherwise. Saddam was an asshole, but that doesn't make the US govt less of a war profiteering, hypocritical BS expedition, or you less of an useful idiot, who essentially gets to pay big money to have blood on your hands. Sorry, I know nobody wants to hear something like that, but step one to fix things is to stop pretending you're not being played like a piano.
I know I didn't say I was comin down, I know you didn't know I was here in town, But bay-yay-yaby you can tell me if anyone can, Baby, can you dig your man? He's a righteous man, Tell me baby, can you dig your man?
For Eich, there were plenty of great reasons for him to be CEO of Mozilla, clue wise. But what does Rice have to do with anything here? Does she have some 'putar expertise she did not let on during her time of accompliceship with war profiteering?
Not to pick on just her, I wonder generally: What's with these random politicians on the boards of random corporations? Do they just get paid for having connections? Are they actually doing anything?
Nowadays, all you do is hear the media's description of what the candidate is saying, and one of the strange things about it is that politics is now presented in terms of politicians and not politics. I don't think the media is interested in politics, they're interested in politicians, which is a wholly different subject... who's doing this, about their private life, about their background, about what they must be thinking, might be thinking when they said something, why did they say it; but what they say is very, very hard to hear. And I think this is, in a sense, indeed quite deliberately, destroying the genuine democratic base on which people are elected.
It is 20 million times more profitable to finance weapon industries by going to war and preparing for attacks, than it is to encourage people to jog daily, except in very hot weather.
Yeah, empires never fade, and always get replaced by bigger ones.
So don't look at dinosaurs, and the tiny mammals that survived them, and surely not at entropy, which is breaking everything down to energy and then smearing that around, slowly, patiently, irreversibly. Do not realize that the universe is a joke at the cost of anyone who likes (to keep) power, that having lots of materials and commanding people around or killing them does not constitute power more than a fart constitutes a solid object, and is but a compensation price born out of delusion. Ignore that a chain binds the master more than the slave, and while it kills the master in an instant, it kills the slave much later or never.
The KGB, the NSA, the Russian Oligarchy, and so on -- all of them already lost, they are but empty husks propped up by smaller empty husks, all life and all reward is taking place in the blind spots, in the wrinkles and niches. The all seeing eye is utterly blind, it does not see the wood for the trees. It will take up last to the joke, and until then it attracts greedy, sadistic, and impotent people, acting as a sinkhole for the weakest humanity has to offer. It's always been thus. Powermongers never experience greatness themselves, but sometimes force their subjects into it. It's a joke at their expense on more than one level.
What you consider cheaper is basically just offloading the costs to future generations. Using fossil fuels, out of which you can also MAKE things, too, for energy which you could get via a million other ways, at a rate much higher than fossil fuels are generated = not a viable plan, and fuck whatever you think in your short-term instant gratification bubble. We also still don't have a way to really deal with nuclear waste for good, which also might incure huge costs at some point down the road (or even "just" maintaining storage for ten thousands of years.. that adds up, and you can't just dismiss this as irrelevant because we don't know the costs yet.. that's a way to be junkies, not stewards of a biosphere).
Sure, and I guess NASA also doesn't exactly have fat coffers, so I don't blame them for not offering more. But considering the allocation of funds to agencies who spend most of it on fucking up the world and the US, it still seems like some kind of joke. But don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to pick on NASA, I'm sure they mean well and would be more generous if they had a bigger budget.
Paging doctor "but if we would be free, who will build the roads [..]"
Oh, I know one who fits that description:
"You don't know what order with freedom means! You only know what revolt against oppression is! You don't know that the rod, discipline, violence, the state and government can only be sustained because of you and because of your lack of socially creative powers that develop order within liberty!"
Actually, the response was "Echo chamber groupthink. You guys are a minority." Apologies for picking up on the undertones and jumping right to the meat of it.
Then your claim is, basically, that it makes the people who agree that the NSA is not for protecting Americans is basically a hero and if more people were skeptical of the NSA then the holocaust might not have happened. Or some damned thing.
Huh, I guess reading and thinking does not come easy for you. Keep trying!
I could have made the exact same point using a million comparisons, but I like to stick with Hitler just to give people like you something to get excited about ^^
You mean NSW, which is short for NSFW, which stands for New South Fucking Wales, right?
You have a point, but I think they generally use their ill-gained information to exploit sheep rather than to help people protect internet infrastructure:(
FWIW, I never feel good about arguing for the self-interest of the population. But I tried the whole "stop being a Nazi" thing and people just don't give a fuck. Some are fine with being "evil" as long as they think they'll keep "winning".
I still remember when I just got interwebs, 2000 on the stileproject forums (oh god), how I flamed some people for talking about how the US could win a nuclear war against some country or other -- I told them that if they think any of the posters would get a place in a bunker that is worth fuck all they're deluded, that the actual owners of the country would use and throw them away like the pawns they are, and the response was actually "you're right. that's depressing." and the thread kinda died -- I was so proud having stood up to the oh so tough meanies, but it was a fluke, I never managed to repeat it; maybe it takes people who have no problems about watching mutilation videos to admit they're wrong for a change.
Also, it was before 9/11, since then some people have the steel dildo of delusion shoved so deeply into their brain that they prefer to just pretend they're a fucking unicorn, and either attack or run away from anyone who has access to mirror technology.
As for evil, I think there is mostly ignorance really. Even the rich and powerful lose more than they gain with their antics, and if they knew that, they'd stop. Yes, they also destroy the lives of others, and that is the main point, but as Assata Shakur said: "Nobody in the world, nobody in history, has ever gotten their freedom by appealing to the moral sense of the people that were oppressing them."
I'd say the historians of the future will either be mindless slaves, extinct, or appalled at how intellectually lazy we are at this time of great opportunity, where we technically could have paradise on Earth if only we chose it, and stopped blowing sugar up the asses an elite that boils down to dumb junkies. It's so shameful that we prefer to keep doing it, but that just adds more shameful things from which we then run away. Just.... stop? The moment you realize you're a fool you're already a bit less of a fool, that's the magic of it ^^
Haha no problem, if since I like to ramble, without knowing the context of that statement, I'll still say that when you grow, period, you will have to keep re-evaluating anything you hold true.
Maybe not everything has to be thrown out all the time, but you *have* to be ready and able to do it, and I think that's hard for anyone, we tend to protect the integrity of the image we are making of ourselves. And we do that just fine without religion, too -- like believing one is even remotely objective just because one doesn't believe in talking snakes and arks of holding. Yet they say truly crazy people think they're not crazy, and likewise, I think knowing you are not and likely never can be objective, is slightly more objective than absolutey claiming objectivity while making big talk about science most of us don't even know first-hand. To me that's the secular side of the same coin, and this bit from "This Be The Verse" comes to mind:
[..] fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another's throats.
Whatever we think today, whatever is state of the art, chances are great it will be fodder for jokes in 1000 years... but we keep thinking this time it's different, that we are special. I guess it's natural, but still, bleh:P
So? People who resisted Hitler were in the minority, too. That just made it more valiant, not less worthwhile. In contrast, do you know what even 7 billion times zero adds up to? I think you might, deep inside, hence
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Well, if you have a, say, rectangular lawn, and you start making a circle -- imagine the Japanese flag with the inner circle being bigger and touching the edges -- what then? How can you cut the four remaining separate (and very awkwardly shaped) corner bits while still coming out ahead?
Or maybe not a literal circle was meant, but more like going from the outside to the inside, in a spiraling fashion, with 90Â degree turns instead of the regular ones?
The 44% are the better (near) half of Twitter, keeping hope alive ^^
No, it means both.
You took too much, man...
*sings*
Heh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
If killing people and attacking countries is enough for you to call for invasion and hanging, I assume you would be fine with the US being invaded and roughly a gazillion people being finally tried for their crimes?
And why stop with Saddam? There are so many way more brutal dictators around the world, so what gives? Are you unaware that the US govt actively supported worse than him, or are you just chosing to ignore it? Don't even pretend: his crime wasn't that he "invaded his neighboring country", but that he did so on his own accord, disobeying the US. That's what made him an enemy, not the gassing or being a dictator. And then there is the fact that the US was always keen on controlling the oil in that region... so either you play along or you get replaced, that is all; how brutal you are doesn't play into it other than that you get lauded for it while you follow orders, and demonized otherwise. Saddam was an asshole, but that doesn't make the US govt less of a war profiteering, hypocritical BS expedition, or you less of an useful idiot, who essentially gets to pay big money to have blood on your hands. Sorry, I know nobody wants to hear something like that, but step one to fix things is to stop pretending you're not being played like a piano.
Thou shalt chill, not shill.
For Eich, there were plenty of great reasons for him to be CEO of Mozilla, clue wise. But what does Rice have to do with anything here? Does she have some 'putar expertise she did not let on during her time of accompliceship with war profiteering?
Not to pick on just her, I wonder generally: What's with these random politicians on the boards of random corporations? Do they just get paid for having connections? Are they actually doing anything?
-- Tony Benn (in "Orwell Rolls in his Grave", http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... )
It is 20 million times more profitable to finance weapon industries by going to war and preparing for attacks, than it is to encourage people to jog daily, except in very hot weather.
Yeah, empires never fade, and always get replaced by bigger ones.
So don't look at dinosaurs, and the tiny mammals that survived them, and surely not at entropy, which is breaking everything down to energy and then smearing that around, slowly, patiently, irreversibly. Do not realize that the universe is a joke at the cost of anyone who likes (to keep) power, that having lots of materials and commanding people around or killing them does not constitute power more than a fart constitutes a solid object, and is but a compensation price born out of delusion. Ignore that a chain binds the master more than the slave, and while it kills the master in an instant, it kills the slave much later or never.
The KGB, the NSA, the Russian Oligarchy, and so on -- all of them already lost, they are but empty husks propped up by smaller empty husks, all life and all reward is taking place in the blind spots, in the wrinkles and niches. The all seeing eye is utterly blind, it does not see the wood for the trees. It will take up last to the joke, and until then it attracts greedy, sadistic, and impotent people, acting as a sinkhole for the weakest humanity has to offer. It's always been thus. Powermongers never experience greatness themselves, but sometimes force their subjects into it. It's a joke at their expense on more than one level.
What you consider cheaper is basically just offloading the costs to future generations. Using fossil fuels, out of which you can also MAKE things, too, for energy which you could get via a million other ways, at a rate much higher than fossil fuels are generated = not a viable plan, and fuck whatever you think in your short-term instant gratification bubble. We also still don't have a way to really deal with nuclear waste for good, which also might incure huge costs at some point down the road (or even "just" maintaining storage for ten thousands of years.. that adds up, and you can't just dismiss this as irrelevant because we don't know the costs yet.. that's a way to be junkies, not stewards of a biosphere).
Sure, and I guess NASA also doesn't exactly have fat coffers, so I don't blame them for not offering more. But considering the allocation of funds to agencies who spend most of it on fucking up the world and the US, it still seems like some kind of joke. But don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to pick on NASA, I'm sure they mean well and would be more generous if they had a bigger budget.
Vote Codo! (Endziffer 1)
Oh, I know one who fits that description:
"It's mostly about the prestige"
You mean like an unpaid internship?
Actually, the response was "Echo chamber groupthink. You guys are a minority." Apologies for picking up on the undertones and jumping right to the meat of it.
Huh, I guess reading and thinking does not come easy for you. Keep trying!
I could have made the exact same point using a million comparisons, but I like to stick with Hitler just to give people like you something to get excited about ^^
You mean NSW, which is short for NSFW, which stands for New South Fucking Wales, right?
You have a point, but I think they generally use their ill-gained information to exploit sheep rather than to help people protect internet infrastructure :(
FWIW, I never feel good about arguing for the self-interest of the population. But I tried the whole "stop being a Nazi" thing and people just don't give a fuck. Some are fine with being "evil" as long as they think they'll keep "winning".
I still remember when I just got interwebs, 2000 on the stileproject forums (oh god), how I flamed some people for talking about how the US could win a nuclear war against some country or other -- I told them that if they think any of the posters would get a place in a bunker that is worth fuck all they're deluded, that the actual owners of the country would use and throw them away like the pawns they are, and the response was actually "you're right. that's depressing." and the thread kinda died -- I was so proud having stood up to the oh so tough meanies, but it was a fluke, I never managed to repeat it; maybe it takes people who have no problems about watching mutilation videos to admit they're wrong for a change.
Also, it was before 9/11, since then some people have the steel dildo of delusion shoved so deeply into their brain that they prefer to just pretend they're a fucking unicorn, and either attack or run away from anyone who has access to mirror technology.
As for evil, I think there is mostly ignorance really. Even the rich and powerful lose more than they gain with their antics, and if they knew that, they'd stop. Yes, they also destroy the lives of others, and that is the main point, but as Assata Shakur said: "Nobody in the world, nobody in history, has ever gotten their freedom by appealing to the moral sense of the people that were oppressing them."
I'd say the historians of the future will either be mindless slaves, extinct, or appalled at how intellectually lazy we are at this time of great opportunity, where we technically could have paradise on Earth if only we chose it, and stopped blowing sugar up the asses an elite that boils down to dumb junkies. It's so shameful that we prefer to keep doing it, but that just adds more shameful things from which we then run away. Just.... stop? The moment you realize you're a fool you're already a bit less of a fool, that's the magic of it ^^
Haha no problem, if since I like to ramble, without knowing the context of that statement, I'll still say that when you grow, period, you will have to keep re-evaluating anything you hold true.
Maybe not everything has to be thrown out all the time, but you *have* to be ready and able to do it, and I think that's hard for anyone, we tend to protect the integrity of the image we are making of ourselves. And we do that just fine without religion, too -- like believing one is even remotely objective just because one doesn't believe in talking snakes and arks of holding. Yet they say truly crazy people think they're not crazy, and likewise, I think knowing you are not and likely never can be objective, is slightly more objective than absolutey claiming objectivity while making big talk about science most of us don't even know first-hand. To me that's the secular side of the same coin, and this bit from "This Be The Verse" comes to mind:
[..] fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another's throats.
Whatever we think today, whatever is state of the art, chances are great it will be fodder for jokes in 1000 years... but we keep thinking this time it's different, that we are special. I guess it's natural, but still, bleh :P
So? People who resisted Hitler were in the minority, too. That just made it more valiant, not less worthwhile. In contrast, do you know what even 7 billion times zero adds up to? I think you might, deep inside, hence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...
^ I love how you come with that right after complaing about an "echo chamber", too.