well, that can be avoided by not having sex in that case.
but how can you avoid being talked into sex by a grown up when you're 12? that's where the problem of having a one-age-fits-all law. as I said, if there's a better way I haven't heard it... and moaning about cases as you mentioned, as sad as they may be, doesn't change that either, because if I had to be real cruel about it, I'd say that's just using a bunch of horny teens used as an excuse to dilute the line when it comes to child fucking.
what, exactly, does pedophilia have to do with copyright/IP, and how does this open the doors to more of that? who's getting shut down? reddit? no, reddit is bowing to pressure, and if they could stand behind any of that stuff, they wouldn't. I guess they looked at it and decided it's really just a festering cesspool of sickos. who forced them to remove it?
as for the abuse flag, I don't know what others use it for, but I've used it to report a spam bot post so far (would do it again, too), and I would certainly hope that flagging any other posts for any other reason would be ignored. but I have no idea.
who's saying it's equivalent? glorification of violence is considered bad by some because of undesirable properties of violence, but not because it's equivalent to it. similar for leering over clothed minors because they're naked under those clothes.... I'm still trying to figure out wether some posters here are genuinely that naive, or just acting it, you know?
Other than that, I agree. The only exception is how people pining for 17-year olds are horrible people but people pining for 18-year olds are not. Any delineation must unfortunately be arbitrary, but some people embrace that delineation with an inappropriate degree of zeal without recognition of the situation as a continuum rather than a step function, with immature people over 18 and mature people just shy of 18.
Well, sure. But the way I see it, thresholds like 16 or 18 do a reasonably good job at ensuring people beyond them have certain maturity with a certain likelihood, and that's good enough.
Or put differently: a mature 14 year old in love with a 20 year old will just have to wait a bit -- big deal! Even 1000 such "tragedies" cannot outweigh one case of abuse. Pushing the thresholds down just so a few people can get it on a tiny bit sooner, or saying it has to be decided case by case, IMHO simply opens the doors to bad stuff, without much benefit to justify that. I'm not saying it's perfect as is, but it's better than nothing.
"Age" is still the best indicator we have. If anyone disagrees,they should come up with another criterion that can be measured objectively. I'm not seeing that.
Oh I know: "Tool to remove software that is malicious in ways other than those which we have come up with for you today." or in short, TTRSTIMIWOTTWWHCUWFYT.
funny i've been reading slashdot for years and years and have never commented on anything. forgive me for over clearing the air here..
nooooo! thank you:) you said some very true things there. heartfelt rants for the win, "rants" about gentleness doubly so. gentleness, I lack it, but I appreciated your reply muchly.
response: hey no wait, look at all these "atheist massacres" (that doesn't mean "in the name of atheism", it rather means the absence of doing it in the name of a religion).
you: RARGH RARGH I DO NOT UNDERSTAND MY HEAD HURTS.
how is pointing out that some people use atheism exactly in the same way religion is used, making it effectively a religion, with all the self-righteousness and intellectual dishonesty that comes with it, being an apologist for religion? you got it exactly wrong, sherlock. so maybe stop being an apologist for being fucking stupid and unable to read more than 3 sentences.
education is a racket to make money, and this guy -- not a teacher, much less an experienced one, by any stretch of the imagination -- proposing twitter and youtube is the saviour? lol?
Heh. Have you even *read* the comment you replied to? How about in some cases, like where the birth would simply kill the mother. How does that constitute the child having no "fault"? Of course it's impossible to lay blame here, but that's hardly the point, since abortions aren't some sort of moral punishment. But let's say you'd detect something that means the child will kill the mother, then die, if brought to term. Sure, that may not be the common case. But to call it killing a human in any and all cases is just silly.
And you might even argue that as long as it's connect to the mother, it's part of her organism, to do with as she pleases. I don't agree with nilly-willy abortions, but you know what, neither does any woman I ever spoke to about the subject. I have not met a single woman who shrugged off having had an abortion. Those may exist, but personal anecdotal evidence suggests they take it more seriously than men (who would have thought). However, for other people to dictate them what to do with their womb, or to imply they are murderers without knowing anything about the specific circumstances, that's just not on. Fuck that.
Or maybe people who know how to host their own content and how to give access to those they'd like to have access? Hmm! Though I'll admit, it seems hard to do online dating that way haha.
herp derp. it's simply a request to shit or get off the pot, I don't see anything particularly sinister about that. call it experience... people mumble and beat around the bush, and sometimes they say things that later were "just a joke", so why not, you know, follow up.
pah, what a weak strawman. so what was the person I was replying to meaning when they were talking about us raping the planet? how come I "don't have a point", yet you feel the need to refute it with your strawman, not addressing anything I said directly, at all? figures, huh?
yeah, and? so now they ride around in a benz while shooting them and monitoring their communications. that helps, yeah?
and not because the oil enabled them -- smearing oil and sand together does not an economy make -- but because "we" are buying it... you know, godless europeans, americans, russians, chinese. that makes them hypocritical dumb fucks who are pissing over their prophet every time they mention his name, and us accomplices in their exploits. that was my incoherent "point" if you will.
You're deluded but I won't get into that, your logic fucking stinks, too.
Let's compare earth to a woman, just so it's easier to understand. What you're basically saying is that as long as we are only seeing this women, we have "a need to rape her". And that the solution is that we take all the resources we raped ouf of her to go and see MOAR women.
What you are suggesting is spilling a virus over the galaxy. You are not suggesting to stop being a virus. And it's totally okay to have a nerdgasm in front of "brainiacs" (is that something about giving head? where is the smart? it must refer to squishy sloppyness no doubt), but it's not okay to tell slashdot about it. (not that I'm holding my breath for that to change, just matching your bullshit condescension... you don't have imagination, you just lost the fucking plot that's all)
Hashtags dedicated to pursuing the lowlife (or despicable) Hamza Kashgari. And raise this to the authorities for insulting our prophet. Retweet.
Spineless little fuckers. That whole article, including that he "repented" of his awesome, beatiful, and TRUE tweets, makes me want to choke someone. And I'd do well to remember all the Muslims who are just as appalled as this as me. Islam is a big thing, and Saudia Arabia is just a desert hole with oil and a bunch of clueless old fucks who wear towels and spent breadcrumbs of what they don't understand on things they don't understand. I'm not a racist, and I try real hard to not be a bigot, but this just makes my blood boil.
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well, that can be avoided by not having sex in that case.
but how can you avoid being talked into sex by a grown up when you're 12? that's where the problem of having a one-age-fits-all law. as I said, if there's a better way I haven't heard it... and moaning about cases as you mentioned, as sad as they may be, doesn't change that either, because if I had to be real cruel about it, I'd say that's just using a bunch of horny teens used as an excuse to dilute the line when it comes to child fucking.
just because you can make up memes with version numbers doesn't mean it has any bearing on reality.
what, exactly, does pedophilia have to do with copyright/IP, and how does this open the doors to more of that? who's getting shut down? reddit? no, reddit is bowing to pressure, and if they could stand behind any of that stuff, they wouldn't. I guess they looked at it and decided it's really just a festering cesspool of sickos. who forced them to remove it?
as for the abuse flag, I don't know what others use it for, but I've used it to report a spam bot post so far (would do it again, too), and I would certainly hope that flagging any other posts for any other reason would be ignored. but I have no idea.
who's saying it's equivalent? glorification of violence is considered bad by some because of undesirable properties of violence, but not because it's equivalent to it. similar for leering over clothed minors because they're naked under those clothes.... I'm still trying to figure out wether some posters here are genuinely that naive, or just acting it, you know?
Well, sure. But the way I see it, thresholds like 16 or 18 do a reasonably good job at ensuring people beyond them have certain maturity with a certain likelihood, and that's good enough.
Or put differently: a mature 14 year old in love with a 20 year old will just have to wait a bit -- big deal! Even 1000 such "tragedies" cannot outweigh one case of abuse. Pushing the thresholds down just so a few people can get it on a tiny bit sooner, or saying it has to be decided case by case, IMHO simply opens the doors to bad stuff, without much benefit to justify that. I'm not saying it's perfect as is, but it's better than nothing.
"Age" is still the best indicator we have. If anyone disagrees,they should come up with another criterion that can be measured objectively. I'm not seeing that.
uhm, wtf? what's your point? it's hard to not draw a perfectly clear line in all cases, so why bother at all?
Oh I know: "Tool to remove software that is malicious in ways other than those which we have come up with for you today." or in short, TTRSTIMIWOTTWWHCUWFYT.
nooooo! thank you :) you said some very true things there. heartfelt rants for the win, "rants" about gentleness doubly so. gentleness, I lack it, but I appreciated your reply muchly.
that's fine, because the "in the name of atheism" thing is just a strawman you pulled conveniently out of your ass after all.
original claim: all evil comes from religion.
response: hey no wait, look at all these "atheist massacres" (that doesn't mean "in the name of atheism", it rather means the absence of doing it in the name of a religion).
you: RARGH RARGH I DO NOT UNDERSTAND MY HEAD HURTS.
hope that helped.
how is pointing out that some people use atheism exactly in the same way religion is used, making it effectively a religion, with all the self-righteousness and intellectual dishonesty that comes with it, being an apologist for religion? you got it exactly wrong, sherlock. so maybe stop being an apologist for being fucking stupid and unable to read more than 3 sentences.
why bother? to give sociopaths clues on what to fake?
lol? no. but making the claim it's that, and using that as an argument, that's an argumentum ad herpa derpa.
no, it's for war driving actually.
education is a racket to make money, and this guy -- not a teacher, much less an experienced one, by any stretch of the imagination -- proposing twitter and youtube is the saviour? lol?
Heh. Have you even *read* the comment you replied to? How about in some cases, like where the birth would simply kill the mother. How does that constitute the child having no "fault"? Of course it's impossible to lay blame here, but that's hardly the point, since abortions aren't some sort of moral punishment. But let's say you'd detect something that means the child will kill the mother, then die, if brought to term. Sure, that may not be the common case. But to call it killing a human in any and all cases is just silly.
And you might even argue that as long as it's connect to the mother, it's part of her organism, to do with as she pleases. I don't agree with nilly-willy abortions, but you know what, neither does any woman I ever spoke to about the subject. I have not met a single woman who shrugged off having had an abortion. Those may exist, but personal anecdotal evidence suggests they take it more seriously than men (who would have thought). However, for other people to dictate them what to do with their womb, or to imply they are murderers without knowing anything about the specific circumstances, that's just not on. Fuck that.
who the fuck are those "medical professionals"? people who sell medical rubber gloves?
george carlin set the bar pretty high by pointing out that "life started millions of years ago and hasn't stopped since".
and the death penalty isn't good for anything, at all? that it's gross is not really a convincing argument for it, either.
How would I, who called calling for chopping off the head of that young journalist because of those tweets spineless, know that?
Or maybe people who know how to host their own content and how to give access to those they'd like to have access? Hmm! Though I'll admit, it seems hard to do online dating that way haha.
herp derp. it's simply a request to shit or get off the pot, I don't see anything particularly sinister about that. call it experience... people mumble and beat around the bush, and sometimes they say things that later were "just a joke", so why not, you know, follow up.
pah, what a weak strawman. so what was the person I was replying to meaning when they were talking about us raping the planet? how come I "don't have a point", yet you feel the need to refute it with your strawman, not addressing anything I said directly, at all? figures, huh?
yeah, and? so now they ride around in a benz while shooting them and monitoring their communications. that helps, yeah?
and not because the oil enabled them -- smearing oil and sand together does not an economy make -- but because "we" are buying it... you know, godless europeans, americans, russians, chinese. that makes them hypocritical dumb fucks who are pissing over their prophet every time they mention his name, and us accomplices in their exploits. that was my incoherent "point" if you will.
what story? the whole thing is pointless.
You're deluded but I won't get into that, your logic fucking stinks, too.
Let's compare earth to a woman, just so it's easier to understand. What you're basically saying is that as long as we are only seeing this women, we have "a need to rape her". And that the solution is that we take all the resources we raped ouf of her to go and see MOAR women.
What you are suggesting is spilling a virus over the galaxy. You are not suggesting to stop being a virus. And it's totally okay to have a nerdgasm in front of "brainiacs" (is that something about giving head? where is the smart? it must refer to squishy sloppyness no doubt), but it's not okay to tell slashdot about it. (not that I'm holding my breath for that to change, just matching your bullshit condescension... you don't have imagination, you just lost the fucking plot that's all)
no, no. it is way, WAY more disgusting than that.
http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/hamzahkashghri-sparks-polarising-debate-twitter-0022029
Spineless little fuckers. That whole article, including that he "repented" of his awesome, beatiful, and TRUE tweets, makes me want to choke someone. And I'd do well to remember all the Muslims who are just as appalled as this as me. Islam is a big thing, and Saudia Arabia is just a desert hole with oil and a bunch of clueless old fucks who wear towels and spent breadcrumbs of what they don't understand on things they don't understand. I'm not a racist, and I try real hard to not be a bigot, but this just makes my blood boil.