I'm just saying there is a difference between comparing a white public figure to a monkey, and comparing a black public figure to a monkey.
Would the skin color of the monkey also be factored into this discrimination?
Humans are not the only primates to come in a variety of skin colors. For example, chimps come in skin colors ranging from light pink to nearly black, as can clearly be seen on their hands and faces. They often darken slightly with age, but large differences persist into old age. If the U.S. is so focused on skin color, then maybe they need non-discrimination laws for other species also.
I just did a Google vs Bing comparison on image search for michelle+obama+monkey.
First comment: the images were displayed really slowly on Bing; many never appeared at all.
Second comment: of the images displayed, Google's had more with a monkey theme of some sort.
Third comment: neither search produced anything I'd refer to as offensive.
Humans are one species of ape, so of course there are clear similarities in appearance (and differences also, chiefly that humans are nearly bald over most of their bodies). For instance, we can recognize a wide range of facial expressions in apes, and associate them with comparable expressions in humans. These similarities are stronger or weaker depending on the moment, but exist for any human individual. Exploiting the similarity to parody a public figure as an ape or monkey is commonplace, and should be considered just another form of fair comment. This is not a race-specific issue - it applies equally across the board.
Google's conduct in cowing to politically motivated whiners is reprehensible. It is apparently acceptable to compare George W Bush or Steve Ballmer to monkeys (or chimps, or whatever) in words or pictures as social or political comment. Tony Blair mostly got poodle comparisons, but there's probably a few monkey ones around also. RMS would be fair game as an ape, too, although he typically gets cave-man or neanderthal comparisons. The US cannot consider itself color-blind or non-racist until the same gamut of insults can be levelled at any public figure without fear of censorship or witch-hunting.
Your own quotes answer the question. He was publicizing an event in the first tweets. He warned everyone to leave once the police told him they would start arresting people.
Try reading the quotes again. They refer to different people:
"James Roppo, 44, the senior vice president of sales at Island Def Jam Records, sent out Internet messages to over 3,000 fans that Justin Bieber was signing autographs even after police dispersed the crowd, cops said."
""They are not allowing me to come into the mall. if you dont leave I and my fans will be arrested as the police just told us," Bieber tweeted."
The first refers to messages sent by James Roppo, who was arrested. The second refers to a tweet by Justin Bieber.
Isn't there a collective noun for "clueless, facebooking, twittering and oh-so-creative metrosexuals"?
There were clueless urban poseurs of great self-importance, even back in the days before twitter & facebook. We called them "yuppies" - would that term be demeaning enough?
Given that Indians rarely speak French, German, Swedish, Spanish, Finnish, and so on, the answer is that no, usually they don't.
Indians don't usually speak Finnish, and Finns don't usually speak Hindi or Bengali or Gujarati etc. But that does not stop companies in Finland outsourcing tech support to India. That's the case where I work, for instance. The language used for support is English, sort-of, on both sides. The result is that there are not too many requests for tech support, reducing visible tech support costs quite dramatically. Invisible costs are another matter.
Inkscape is installed on all of our Linux PCs at home, and on the Windows PCs and VMs at work. It is one of the "must-have" applications for graphics. We all use it at home, adults & kids.
I also recommend the Science Museum and the Natural History Museum, which are easily accessible by subway. Whether you are bringing kids or not, these two museums alone may require more than a day. We've been to both of them six or eight times, typically spending most of a day in each, but the kids still want to visit again whenever we go to London.
For maximum enjoyment, plan on visiting the museums on weekdays. They are open also on weekends, but since admission is free (yes!) they can be a little crowded on Saturdays and Sundays. During the week, there are much fewer casual visitors, but there may be a few school groups. They are large buildings with a lot to see at each of them, so it involves a certain amount of walking. The gift shops have some interesting items, but carry a lot of tourist junk as well.
Also, bring your own snack food - the museum restaurant food is tolerable enough, but service can be slow, and special diets are not handled well. Both museums have areas for eating your own food, and it's possible to picnic outside at the Natural History Museum, depending on the weather. There is usually a supermarket or other place selling decent ready-to-go foods near the subway stations. We usually grab sushi boxes on the way from the hotel to the subway when we go there.
BTW, if the London weather is mediocre (December, right), the Victoria & Albert museum is also nearby. It is less crowded, and deals with the history of human society. There is a lot of historical clothing, tools, musical instruments, and suchlike.
After the search is where it gets better. The results pages on Bing are way better, and have even caused a stir at Google.
In what way does it get better? I tried Bing a few times, and its results on many test queries were roughly equal to Google's. On some queries, Google was definitely better than Bing. In no case was Bing better than Google. I just compared Bing & Google again with two simple searches to see if there was any substance to your claim, and there was not. Google still has the edge.
The first search was: tilt-integral-derivative. The two engines gave quite similar results for such a clear unambiguous and uncommon term. This implies they are spidering with similar coverage.
The second search was: colonel shakespeare -william. Google's results were clearly more relevant. This implies that Bing's ranking algorithm is still not as good as Google's. Try it with other searches where the search terms are quite common and one occurs overwhelmingly in an unwanted context. Bing borks them.
What about 4gb and 8gb SSDs? There are some you can get for under $200. You can find a 2 or 4gb SSD for under $100, if you look hard enough.
He quoted prices in Norwegian Kroner (1$US = 5.66NOK according to oanda.com). So he found a 40GB SSD for $123 (696NOK), presumably including the absurd Norwegian VAT, making a US equivalent price below $100.
Wow. You put my list to shame: bird's-nest tea, pickled duck egg, chicken's foot, crawfish, frog legs, oyster, mussel, squid, seaweed, anchovy, goat, bison, deer, squirrel, dove, and pigeon.
Nice list: tasty animals. I forgot to mention kangaroo, ostrich, elk, deer, bison, goat, horse, and so forth on my list, and did not bother expanding the molluscs (mussels, clams, limpets, cockles, squid, octopus, conch, whelks, other sea-snails, and the like) or crustaceans (various crabs, lobster, crayfish, prawns, shrimp, etc.).
Contrary to the expectations of some posts above, I have not yet been to the Far East. All of the animals I listed can be found on the menu at respectable restaurants in Europe and North America and the Caribbean. Nor am I a complete omnivore - I've never tasted whale meat or monkey meat, and don't recall ever eating insects, arachnids, or millipedes.
The last three, I shot and cleaned personally...
Well done! I can only say that about rabbits. But I've caught & cleaned fish, eels, and crustaceans, and gathered molluscs at the seashore for impromptu picnics: build a small fire on the beach, boil mussels or limpets in a little seawater, delicious.
I remove F-Spot, which I neither like nor use. Actually I nearly despise it due to the hard-coded directory name stupidity introduced a couple of Ubuntu versions ago (every volume with a/photos directory was deemed to be from a digital camera, even if it was a 1TB internal fixed disk). The resulting moronic behavior of the file browser was really Ubuntu's fault, but F-Spot carries the stigma.
Our raw photo processing is done with Bibble Pro and Noise Ninja, both of which sell native Linux versions. GIMP is a keeper for image editing, however, and gets quite a lot of use. Especially by my teenage daughter, who became a GIMP whiz as a pre-teen.
I have eaten many different animals (or at least parts of them), including rattlesnake, crocodile, alligator, iguana, turtle, and many different molluscs, arthropods, echinoids, and whatnot from sea or river. I have also eaten squirrel, bear, dog, and cat.
So, I can say I have eaten pussy, and you can interpret or misinterpret it any way you want. Oh, and woof-woof, too.
Bing is brown, and not at all shiny.
On my work laptop (IE6 for internal stuff, alas), I have to occasionally reset it to google search. Usually, this happens after I notice it has sneaked back to MSN/Bing as the search engine. I added www.bing.com and *.bing.com to the restricted sites in the security tab of IE's internet settings. Guess what - IE6 can still access www.bing.com, even though every other site in the restricted sites list is silently blocked.
My PCs at home have 8GB of RAM each. Now 144TB is a lot more, but only by 18,000 times.
When they boot that sucker, how long does the memory check take?
Of course, you could get a card which you pay off in full every month, and make sure not to sign up for suspicious looking reward programs, but that would require self-control and common sense.
Where I live, that's considered normal behavior. I don't think anyone I know carries credit card debt from one month to another - it's always paid on time and in full. Maybe I just don't know any morons...
The credit card company is already earning a percentage from the merchant. They should not need to make usurious escalating loans to consumers to get an adequate income. So why enrich them further by impoverishing yourself?
You got him backward, he wants HIGH dpi monitors, meaning more, smaller pixels in the same space.
No, I didn't. The 30" 2560x1600 monitors are high DPI, with 0.25mm dot pitch. That's quite close to the minimum dot pitch generally available (the range at newegg is 0.243mm to 0.311mm), and the only ones with tighter dot pitch are significantly smaller (19" to 23").
My comment on running these monitors at exactly half scale (1280x800) was for the benefit of the OP, who explicitly wanted large low DPI monitors. The effective dot pitch would be doubled.
I should have expected that answering two things in one post would cause a lowering of the already poor/. reading comprehension scores.
At present, there's no way to thaw a living human after deep freezing. With present day technology, deep frozen person means dead person (not just "mostly dead", either).
Frozen meat can be cooked after thawing, so somebody in a dystopian future might benefit...
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I'm just saying there is a difference between comparing a white public figure to a monkey, and comparing a black public figure to a monkey.
Would the skin color of the monkey also be factored into this discrimination?
Humans are not the only primates to come in a variety of skin colors. For example, chimps come in skin colors ranging from light pink to nearly black, as can clearly be seen on their hands and faces. They often darken slightly with age, but large differences persist into old age. If the U.S. is so focused on skin color, then maybe they need non-discrimination laws for other species also.
I'm just saying there is a difference between comparing a white public figure to a monkey, and comparing a black public figure to a monkey.
So, what would be an appropriate way to portray a black politician as a buffoon? (Other than the obvious fact that you called them a politician?)
Well, if the press is in love with her, there are few options. Wait a couple of years, and with luck they'll have gotten over it. The strategies used to parody Condoleezza Rice would probably be attacked by today's media as being unfair on "sexist" grounds, if used on Michelle Obama. For example:
http://www.mygtv.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/condoleezza_rice_bikini_show.jpg
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/8/5/condi_secret.jpg
And no doubt, with our ludicrous newly-found "sensitivity" on religious grounds[*], the one showing Rice with little horns while deploying her tongue on her boss might be judged unacceptable if it featured the Obamas instead:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2k22z8vH128/SDoVJbCMmOI/AAAAAAAACxM/ysfuq40YhEg/s320/Condoleezza-Rice-George-W-Bush--23188.jpg
[*] If ever there was a characteristic crying out to be parodied, this is it.
I just did a Google vs Bing comparison on image search for michelle+obama+monkey.
First comment: the images were displayed really slowly on Bing; many never appeared at all.
Second comment: of the images displayed, Google's had more with a monkey theme of some sort.
Third comment: neither search produced anything I'd refer to as offensive.
Humans are one species of ape, so of course there are clear similarities in appearance (and differences also, chiefly that humans are nearly bald over most of their bodies). For instance, we can recognize a wide range of facial expressions in apes, and associate them with comparable expressions in humans. These similarities are stronger or weaker depending on the moment, but exist for any human individual. Exploiting the similarity to parody a public figure as an ape or monkey is commonplace, and should be considered just another form of fair comment. This is not a race-specific issue - it applies equally across the board.
Google's conduct in cowing to politically motivated whiners is reprehensible. It is apparently acceptable to compare George W Bush or Steve Ballmer to monkeys (or chimps, or whatever) in words or pictures as social or political comment. Tony Blair mostly got poodle comparisons, but there's probably a few monkey ones around also. RMS would be fair game as an ape, too, although he typically gets cave-man or neanderthal comparisons. The US cannot consider itself color-blind or non-racist until the same gamut of insults can be levelled at any public figure without fear of censorship or witch-hunting.
Your own quotes answer the question. He was publicizing an event in the first tweets. He warned everyone to leave once the police told him they would start arresting people.
Try reading the quotes again. They refer to different people:
"James Roppo, 44, the senior vice president of sales at Island Def Jam Records, sent out Internet messages to over 3,000 fans that Justin Bieber was signing autographs even after police dispersed the crowd, cops said."
""They are not allowing me to come into the mall. if you dont leave I and my fans will be arrested as the police just told us," Bieber tweeted."
The first refers to messages sent by James Roppo, who was arrested. The second refers to a tweet by Justin Bieber.
Isn't there a collective noun for "clueless, facebooking, twittering and oh-so-creative metrosexuals"?
There were clueless urban poseurs of great self-importance, even back in the days before twitter & facebook. We called them "yuppies" - would that term be demeaning enough?
I love how you replied to someone yet said nothing related to the parent at all.
Why, thank you for the compliment! And I thought I was new here...
Given that Indians rarely speak French, German, Swedish, Spanish, Finnish, and so on, the answer is that no, usually they don't.
Indians don't usually speak Finnish, and Finns don't usually speak Hindi or Bengali or Gujarati etc. But that does not stop companies in Finland outsourcing tech support to India. That's the case where I work, for instance. The language used for support is English, sort-of, on both sides. The result is that there are not too many requests for tech support, reducing visible tech support costs quite dramatically. Invisible costs are another matter.
Inkscape is installed on all of our Linux PCs at home, and on the Windows PCs and VMs at work. It is one of the "must-have" applications for graphics. We all use it at home, adults & kids.
Well, a plane is just a flying car after all...
Actually, a car is a badly designed plane. Just try driving one off a cliff, and you'll see what I mean.
I also recommend the Science Museum and the Natural History Museum, which are easily accessible by subway. Whether you are bringing kids or not, these two museums alone may require more than a day. We've been to both of them six or eight times, typically spending most of a day in each, but the kids still want to visit again whenever we go to London.
For maximum enjoyment, plan on visiting the museums on weekdays. They are open also on weekends, but since admission is free (yes!) they can be a little crowded on Saturdays and Sundays. During the week, there are much fewer casual visitors, but there may be a few school groups. They are large buildings with a lot to see at each of them, so it involves a certain amount of walking. The gift shops have some interesting items, but carry a lot of tourist junk as well.
Also, bring your own snack food - the museum restaurant food is tolerable enough, but service can be slow, and special diets are not handled well. Both museums have areas for eating your own food, and it's possible to picnic outside at the Natural History Museum, depending on the weather. There is usually a supermarket or other place selling decent ready-to-go foods near the subway stations. We usually grab sushi boxes on the way from the hotel to the subway when we go there.
BTW, if the London weather is mediocre (December, right), the Victoria & Albert museum is also nearby. It is less crowded, and deals with the history of human society. There is a lot of historical clothing, tools, musical instruments, and suchlike.
After the search is where it gets better. The results pages on Bing are way better, and have even caused a stir at Google.
In what way does it get better? I tried Bing a few times, and its results on many test queries were roughly equal to Google's. On some queries, Google was definitely better than Bing. In no case was Bing better than Google. I just compared Bing & Google again with two simple searches to see if there was any substance to your claim, and there was not. Google still has the edge.
The first search was: tilt-integral-derivative. The two engines gave quite similar results for such a clear unambiguous and uncommon term. This implies they are spidering with similar coverage.
The second search was: colonel shakespeare -william. Google's results were clearly more relevant. This implies that Bing's ranking algorithm is still not as good as Google's. Try it with other searches where the search terms are quite common and one occurs overwhelmingly in an unwanted context. Bing borks them.
Is 25% VAT absurd in your opinion?
Yes, since VAT is only 22% where I live, and that's already too high (it's 19% in Germany).
What about 4gb and 8gb SSDs? There are some you can get for under $200. You can find a 2 or 4gb SSD for under $100, if you look hard enough.
He quoted prices in Norwegian Kroner (1$US = 5.66NOK according to oanda.com). So he found a 40GB SSD for $123 (696NOK), presumably including the absurd Norwegian VAT, making a US equivalent price below $100.
A day without 2 Minutes Hate is like a day without sunshine!
There is no #$@&% sunshine at this time of year where I live, you insensitive clod!
:)
We make up for it with 30 consecutive 2-minutes hate in each and every hour
Wow. You put my list to shame: bird's-nest tea, pickled duck egg, chicken's foot, crawfish, frog legs, oyster, mussel, squid, seaweed, anchovy, goat, bison, deer, squirrel, dove, and pigeon.
Nice list: tasty animals. I forgot to mention kangaroo, ostrich, elk, deer, bison, goat, horse, and so forth on my list, and did not bother expanding the molluscs (mussels, clams, limpets, cockles, squid, octopus, conch, whelks, other sea-snails, and the like) or crustaceans (various crabs, lobster, crayfish, prawns, shrimp, etc.).
Contrary to the expectations of some posts above, I have not yet been to the Far East. All of the animals I listed can be found on the menu at respectable restaurants in Europe and North America and the Caribbean. Nor am I a complete omnivore - I've never tasted whale meat or monkey meat, and don't recall ever eating insects, arachnids, or millipedes.
The last three, I shot and cleaned personally...
Well done! I can only say that about rabbits. But I've caught & cleaned fish, eels, and crustaceans, and gathered molluscs at the seashore for impromptu picnics: build a small fire on the beach, boil mussels or limpets in a little seawater, delicious.
Perhaps they are trying to be a bit like Apple... you can get their software in conjunction with their approved hardware for a seamless experience.
Let's hope seamless means reamless. Unlike the Apple experience.
I remove F-Spot, which I neither like nor use. Actually I nearly despise it due to the hard-coded directory name stupidity introduced a couple of Ubuntu versions ago (every volume with a /photos directory was deemed to be from a digital camera, even if it was a 1TB internal fixed disk). The resulting moronic behavior of the file browser was really Ubuntu's fault, but F-Spot carries the stigma.
Our raw photo processing is done with Bibble Pro and Noise Ninja, both of which sell native Linux versions. GIMP is a keeper for image editing, however, and gets quite a lot of use. Especially by my teenage daughter, who became a GIMP whiz as a pre-teen.
I have eaten many different animals (or at least parts of them), including rattlesnake, crocodile, alligator, iguana, turtle, and many different molluscs, arthropods, echinoids, and whatnot from sea or river. I have also eaten squirrel, bear, dog, and cat.
So, I can say I have eaten pussy, and you can interpret or misinterpret it any way you want. Oh, and woof-woof, too.
Hyper-competitive former fighter jocks + confined space + roids. Whatcouldpossiblygowrong?
Make sure there's only one female in the crew, and the problems will be clear enough.
Bing is just a shiny object.
No, that would be bling. Bing is just.. bing.
Bing is brown, and not at all shiny.
On my work laptop (IE6 for internal stuff, alas), I have to occasionally reset it to google search. Usually, this happens after I notice it has sneaked back to MSN/Bing as the search engine. I added www.bing.com and *.bing.com to the restricted sites in the security tab of IE's internet settings. Guess what - IE6 can still access www.bing.com, even though every other site in the restricted sites list is silently blocked.
My PCs at home have 8GB of RAM each. Now 144TB is a lot more, but only by 18,000 times.
When they boot that sucker, how long does the memory check take?
Of course, you could get a card which you pay off in full every month, and make sure not to sign up for suspicious looking reward programs, but that would require self-control and common sense.
Where I live, that's considered normal behavior. I don't think anyone I know carries credit card debt from one month to another - it's always paid on time and in full. Maybe I just don't know any morons...
The credit card company is already earning a percentage from the merchant. They should not need to make usurious escalating loans to consumers to get an adequate income. So why enrich them further by impoverishing yourself?
You got him backward, he wants HIGH dpi monitors, meaning more, smaller pixels in the same space.
No, I didn't. The 30" 2560x1600 monitors are high DPI, with 0.25mm dot pitch. That's quite close to the minimum dot pitch generally available (the range at newegg is 0.243mm to 0.311mm), and the only ones with tighter dot pitch are significantly smaller (19" to 23"). /. reading comprehension scores.
My comment on running these monitors at exactly half scale (1280x800) was for the benefit of the OP, who explicitly wanted large low DPI monitors. The effective dot pitch would be doubled.
I should have expected that answering two things in one post would cause a lowering of the already poor
At present, there's no way to thaw a living human after deep freezing. With present day technology, deep frozen person means dead person (not just "mostly dead", either).
Frozen meat can be cooked after thawing, so somebody in a dystopian future might benefit...