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Geek Travel To London From the US — Tips?

Audrey23 writes "I am traveling to London from Washington state for two weeks in December for pleasure (use-it-or-lose-it vacation scenario) and was wondering if I should bother bringing my laptop. I know that I would have to change the region code on my wireless amongst other things and the power cord would have to be changed for a UK outlet. Would I be better off not bringing my laptop and just using Internet kiosks (do they exist in London?) or would having my laptop be a better choice to keep in touch, off-load my digital images etc? I plan on hitting the British Museum but was wondering what geeky things to do that are in London that might be worth going to and any tips hints on overseas travel for geeks? I travel quite a bit in the states but this will be my first trip overseas and want to make the best of my stay in merry old England. What words of advice do you travel seasoned geeks have for me?"

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  1. dont overthink by PizzaAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless you want some time off from computer, take your laptop with you. It's still a lot easier than always going to a Internet Kiosk and can use it otherwise than just quickly uploading images off.

    However when traveling, experiencing is the greatest thing. Not planning too much.

    Let me give you an example.

    At home it's easy to get oriented to the same ways always. Sure sliced ham, bacon, pineapple and roasted red peppers with provolone cheese on a parmesan crust pan pizza with barbeque sauce on it is nice (*). You love it, it tastes good. But sometimes it's time to just go for it, doing the dramatic change without thinking about it earlier. Change that damn pizza to chicken breast, white sauce, smoked bacon and tomatoes on a provolone crust with a mexican sauce on top of it (*). And if you're really going wild, order a chocolate ice cream with strawberries and m&m's on top of it!

    What I'm basically saying is that just go and do something. As the geeky non-social persons we are, it's actually really easy to get to know new people when in a foreign country. Maybe because then you have a need to go to talk with people, or sound more interesting to girls since you're from other lands, or come out as mysterious because you dont even understand each others languages. Don't plan everything beforehand - leave there that possibility for problems. I visited Russia earlier this year and lost my immigration card while there. It took some planning out to get out of the country, but it was fun in the end.

    Also, since you are near London, there's a great pizza place in Naples that you should visit.

    1. Re:dont overthink by frisket · · Score: 2, Informative

      Region code? WTF is a region code in your wireless setup? I've lugged laptops over half the planet and never needed to reset anything to get wireless...

      Power cord is easily changed, or buy one of those multi-prong adapters. No new transformer charger should be needed: all laptops seem to be auto-voltage-sensing now. But yes, bring the lapdog. Internet cafes are all over London, but they're a hassle compared with having your own machine.

      Make sure the laptop is charged before both outward *and* return flights -- the only hassle you're likely to get is from security asking you to turn it on when you find it's discharged...

    2. Re:dont overthink by jonbryce · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Also, when you get to England, get a pay as you go HSDPA modem. It is much cheaper than using WiFi hotspots, and you get much better coverage.

    3. Re:dont overthink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Naples is near London!?

    4. Re:dont overthink by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      I had the exactly same first reaction as parent. There is no such thing as a "region code" for wifi AFAIK. I've used the same laptop and wifi card on 4 different continents (Asia, Australia, Europe, North America) and never had problems (except in certain hotels that insist on "free" wifi protected via passphrase which doesn't work with the Linux drivers for my card, but that's a different issue.)

      No transformer should be necessary, either. I've used the same laptop power supply with 240V (Australia), 230V (most of Europe and Asia), and 120V (US) with nothing more than an adaptor plug. I think most small electronics are auto-voltage-sensing these days, including my camera's battery charger, MP3 player, electric razor, mobile phone charger, external USB drive, etc.

      Tip: Go buy a universal adaptor plug *before* going to the airport. You'll save 40 to 50 percent on the price. And be sure to take a small power strip, so you can run/charge laptop, battery charger for camera, electric razor, external USB drive, etc., without having to unplug something else or having to do without something because your camera battery *and* your laptop battery are both flat and you don't have time to charge both.

      BTW, I've never had airport security ask me to turn on my laptop, only to open the lid. Nonetheless, you definitely want to make sure you've got it charged for those longhaul flights, unless you're not flying economy (for mine, it's not worth the extra money just to have an electrical outlet).

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    5. Re:dont overthink by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          Europe and Japan have a couple extra channels for Wifi that the US doesn't have. That shouldn't be an issue though.

          You're right on the power supply. Just pick up an international adapter kit and you'd be good to go. Most modern electronics are 120-240 50-60Hz.

          I've only ever been asked to turn my laptop on once, and that was flying to Europe. Of course I had just run the battery out on the first flight, so I told the customs agent "well, if I can plug it in, I'll turn it on." He was fine with that. I was willing to turn it on, but he didn't make me. They were interviewing everyone on the way to the plane which was a bit odd. He chitchatted with me for 20 minutes, but since we were talking in the jetway, the plane wasn't leaving without me. He was familiar with the company I worked for, so he was asking questions about the public figures on our web site out of personal curiosity. :) It was the one time the conversation was comfortable, and had no hints of needing anal lube.

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    6. Re:dont overthink by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      I've only ever been asked to turn my laptop on once, and that was flying to Europe. Of course I had just run the battery out on the first flight, so I told the customs agent "well, if I can plug it in, I'll turn it on." He was fine with that. I was willing to turn it on, but he didn't make me.

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    7. Re:dont overthink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      the natural history/british/science museums are an absolute must

      but the pick of the bunch is the royal observatory (and greenwich in general). i go there at least once a month just to check out harissons clocks, they are totally mesmerising.

      the best thing is that all this is free

      probably a daft question but if you're going to london on holiday why not leave the laptop at home and avoid the internet cafes for a week or so. i'm sure the world of twitter/facebook (and even /.) can survive without you :-)

    8. Re:dont overthink by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      I've talked myself into eating some pretty nasty stuff with that philosophy. Reminds me of an old SNL skit "Bad Idea Jeans Commerical" where Bob Odenkirk says "Well, I didn't have a condom, but I figured, what the hell, when am I going to be in Guam again?"

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    9. Re:dont overthink by overcaffein8d · · Score: 1

      Unless you want some time off from computer, take your laptop with you. It's still a lot easier than always going to a Internet Kiosk and can use it otherwise than just quickly uploading images off.

      It depends on what you need it for. Think what you will be using it for--if it's just for simple email, slashdot-checking, or facebook, just bring a small device. You're a geek.. so what do you have? An iPod touch will do the trick--at the same times as a laptop-where there's a wi-fi signal (Okay, no ethernet). If you have an iPhone, then that works as well (watch out for charges). Of course, Verizon's CDMA-only phones don't work.

      I would just keep the pictures on the card. When I went to Europe for 12 days over the past summer, I brought along my Nikon D40 with 2 8gb cards. I took somewhere around 4460 pictures and don't think I completely filled the first one (Normal Quality jpg).

      So, maybe it's just because I have a 17-inch MBP so it's a pain to carry around, but I think you may be able to get by quite well without one. Enjoy the trip!

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    10. Re:dont overthink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You will need a plug adapter - your laptop power cord will plug into the adapter, and the adapter into the wall - be sure that your laptop power supply is good for 220V 50Hz - 99% chance that it is.

      WiFi is WiFi - your hotel will probably have access - it's almost universal, even in small town hotels on the continent (I travel a lot by motorcycle - backroads and small towns only - and almost always have Internet access)

    11. Re:dont overthink by Lurching · · Score: 3, Informative

      DO NOT BUY A US POWER STRIP TO USE IN THE UK!!!!!!

      Seriously. Remember, the UK uses 240 volts and the US power strips and internal breaker are rated at 120 volts. The strip will most likely not survive the experience. An adapter plug only gets you plugged in. It does not change the voltage. There are adapters that can change the voltage, but for limited wattage.

      As for sights - The Imperial War Museum (WWI and WWII weapons and gadgets), the Science Museum (Industrial Arts including lots of steam engines and boat models), The British Museum (lots of historical "stuff" from all over the world), Westminster (no cameras allowed), St Paul's, Windsor Castle, Camden Lock Markets, London Museum (history of London), National Museum of Art, Tate Museum of Art, Tate Modern, Kew Gardens, Hampton Court Palace, Kensington Palace, Kew Palace, etc.

      Get a multizone (1 thru 6) London Transport pass (Oyster card) and you can go almost anywhere on the tube or buses.

      Try out some of the great Indian curry houses, China Town restaurants, a Sunday Roast at a pub.

      I spent 4 months working there, sight-seeing on the weekends, and know that there are things that I missed. Take your laptop, get one of the British HSDPA modems if you are running Windows - they don't have drivers for Linux. Take a good digital camera and burn CD's of of your photos each day.

      Good luck.

    12. Re:dont overthink by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      802.11g supports 14 channels (I think; around that many). In most countries, around 11 of these are licensed for use. For extra fun, they are not the same 11. Most drivers just enable the ones that are allowed almost everywhere.

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    13. Re:dont overthink by story645 · · Score: 1

      I think most small electronics are auto-voltage-sensing these days, including my camera's battery charger, MP3 player, electric razor, mobile phone charger, external USB drive, etc.

      It's also written, along with all the power info, on the power brick/charger if anyone wants to double check. Ebays a great place to buy adapters, and so is any semi-sketchy electronics shop.

      And be sure to take a small power strip

      But be careful with those. I took out the electricity in half an apartment in Russia 'cause I didn't check the strip for voltages and tried running it off an adapter. My converter overheated several times trying to power it, (and my laptop, which is how I found out about the adapters in the first place).

      I've never had airport security ask me anything about my laptop, and my brother's never been stopped either.

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    14. Re:dont overthink by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      And be sure to take a small power strip

      Over the last few years I've made a point of only buying gadgets that charge off USB - those little cables fit into a bag a lot more handily than a power strip. But I guess that would change if I had to deal with an electric shaver. Soap 'n' scrape has always been fine for me...

    15. Re:dont overthink by hughk · · Score: 1

      Some WiFi channels are not available everywhere due to local frequency allocation issues. However these tend to be at the end of the spectrum and aren't that widely used by public access points.

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    16. Re:dont overthink by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      Naples is near London!?

      I think the parent must need that accessibility feature: Slashdot for the geographically impaired.

    17. Re:dont overthink by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      You're right on the power supply. Just pick up an international adapter kit and you'd be good to go. Most modern electronics are 120-240 50-60Hz.
      Still it's a good idea to check.

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    18. Re:dont overthink by Slarty · · Score: 1

      Seconding this. My US power strip not only fried itself, but cut the power for half the hotel I was staying at. This happened late Friday night, and it was almost 2 days before they fixed it.

      It was a crappy hotel, but the point stands. :-)

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    19. Re:dont overthink by magarity · · Score: 1

      And be sure to take a small power strip,
       
      Be careful with this advice - a lot of power strips will blow the surge protector when plugged into 220v. Get one that doesn't have a circuit breaker.

    20. Re:dont overthink by bmcintosh · · Score: 1

      You HAVE to hit a traditional english pub somewhere (Like Dirty Dicks). When you are there, you have to make sure you try faggots (meatballs in gravy) and spotted dick (desert). You may also want to try toad-in-the-hole. Why do you need to try these foods? Think about it - how many people would like to have this line for the girls ... 'yea, I went to Dirty Dicks and had some faggots - they were great. The spotted dick afterwards was not so great, and I really don't think I should have tried the toad-in-the-hole' Wash it all down with a pint pf 'Old Peculiar' and you are good to go!

    21. Re:dont overthink by lorenlal · · Score: 1

      I also say take the laptop. I took mine with me to France, and it ended up being quite useful. I found it much easier to find free wireless cafes than kiosks (ok.. yes.. it's Paris so there was a cafe every 5 steps).

      Also, it helped me find things in the city that I found out about while on vacation.

      If only I could've found a way to stop going to google.fr....

    22. Re:dont overthink by zelbinion · · Score: 2

      I'll second the Imperial War Museum, the Science Museum, Tate Modern, etc. Someone else also mentioned the Design Museum -- that's pretty cool, too.

      On the laptop question: If you have a netbook, or something under about 3 pounds (~1.5kg) I'd consider taking it. Otherwise, leave it behind. I've traveled quite a bit in Europe, and I often bring along my 2.2 pound (1kg) Toshiba Portege 2000 (ancient ultralight notebook, more or less equivalent to a netbook, but a little slower.) What I've found is that on short trips (2-3 days) I hardly use it and wish I'd left it behind. On longer trips, especially when traveling around with no pre-set plan, I find it useful for getting directions, booking tickets to events, hotels, flights, checking the opening and closing times of certain attractions, and the occasional e-mail, but I still use it less than I thought I would. Anything heavier/larger is just a drag. The key to having fun is to travel light. Of all the times I've stayed in London, I've never been on the first floor of the hotel, and only about 25% of the hotels I've stayed in had elevators. If you simply fly to London and stay in the same hotel for two weeks, that's not a big issue, but if you travel around a bit (and if you are there that long you SHOULD) the extra weight and bulk of a laptop is really annoying. Bring a carry-on sized bag and *maybe* a small shoulder bag and that's it. Anything more and you stop having fun because you are dragging around your closet with you. Do a load of laundry after your first week rather than bringing two weeks worth of clothes. There are internet cafe's all over London (and most of Europe for that matter.) Easy Internet has several large internet cafe's in central London -- just look for a bright orange sign. (There are loads of other places to go, too.) Bring a digital camera and a bunch of memory cards (they are cheap) and take lots of pictures.

      With two weeks, I would strongly consider seeing more of the country (or even other countries.) Easy Jet and Ryan Air have cheap flights all over the place (warning though: these airlines often fly to regional airports rather than major airports, so you have to take public transit to actually get where you want to go even after getting off the flight. Sometimes, it just isn't worth the hassle, and you are better off taking a "regular" airline -- research before you book! They also charge fees for EVERYTHING, so pack light, and bring your own snacks.) Still, it can be a cheap way to dash up to Edinburgh for a few days or see Paris for a weekend. It will make your trip so much more memorable. Get on a train and go somewhere -- many other posts here have great ideas (Bath, Bletchly Park, etc.)

      Also, WALK places. You see and experience so much more. Go into Soho and just wander around. See a show, stop off in a pub for lunch, find a little hole-in-the-wall curry place filled with locals (you'll recognize them because they will not be wearing t-shirts, jeans, or sneakers.) It is nearly impossible to get lost in London, because if you get turned around, just ask a passer by where the nearest tube stop is, check the map in the station to see where you are, and take the subway to someplace else you want to be. (As many have said already, get an Oyster card.)

      Don't stay at big chain hotels, don't eat at places you've been to in the U.S. (McDonald's, TGI Friday's, etc.) Ask locals for recommendations of where to eat. Don't ask them for what to see -- like locals everywhere, they rarely see the sites that are next door. Get a good tour book for that. Generally spending more (on food, hotels, transportation) simply isolates you more from the people in the country you are in, and robs you of the experience of being somewhere with a different culture. Take public transit, walk, and go to a local pub and talk to people. You'll have a lot more fun!

    23. Re:dont overthink by Grumpinuts · · Score: 1

      Actually it's 220V 50 Hz.

    24. Re:dont overthink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget to bring a towel... ;D

    25. Re:dont overthink by nigelo · · Score: 1

      Good grief - the point is: plug it into your voltage adapter, which typically only have one outlet, after reading the warnings on the adapter about total wattage.

      Being stuck with one outlet with three low wattage needs is a pain (electric toothbrush, phone charger, night-light, for instance?)

      Oh, and don't stick your fingers in the sockets, or run with scissors.

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    26. Re:dont overthink by ZERO1ZERO · · Score: 1
      What is it with all the pizza references on slashdot over the last few days? Have I missed a seminal posting somewhere?

      Some of them are pretty funny actually.

    27. Re:dont overthink by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      > What I'm basically saying is that just go and do something. As the geeky non-social persons we are, it's actually > really easy to get to know new people when in a foreign country.

      Thats how I experienced Paris, and I have to say... I agree. Wake up every day, find some spot to have breakfast and spend some time perusing a map or a guide book, and pick a place to go today. Then go there.

      ALso.... stay in hostels!

      Hostels are cheaper than hotels, and only really a problem if you expect to sleep in the afternoons or meet people to "take back to your room". Even then, chances are, they have a place.

      The best part of hostels is, they are FILLED with other travelers. When you get up and head to the lobby, it will be bustling with other people who are... all planning to head to many of the same places as you. You have natural things to talk about, and even a pretty shy geek like myself managed to find traveling companions more often than not. (and I wasn't even trying!)

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    28. Re:dont overthink by usasma · · Score: 1

      I traveled to Egypt a couple of months back with an older XP laptop. I was able to connect wirelessly almost anywhere that there was an access point (the Cairo airport was difficult - but I suspect I was accessing things that I wasn't supposed to :0). And, most AC adapters for laptops are 110/220 - so you'll only need a plug converter to convert to UK plugs.

    29. Re:dont overthink by Retron · · Score: 1

      If only I could've found a way to stop going to google.fr....

      www.google.com/ncr will do the trick.

    30. Re:dont overthink by stonertom · · Score: 1

      All the UK HSDPA modems I've had work out of the box on Fedora (T-mob/Voda, look for the Huawei ones).

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    31. Re:dont overthink by Ares · · Score: 1

      i never had a problem using my cheap us power strip in the uk or the rest of europe for that matter, even without using a transformer in between. That's probably the key though: cheap. Only thing it had was a resettable circuit breaker, which was probably rated at 250 volts to begin with.

    32. Re:dont overthink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Region code? WTF is a region code in your wireless setup?

      We're allowed to use Wireless Channels 12 and 13 in the UK. You won't find many people using them. And you probably can't find the correct drivers for doing it anyway =)

    33. Re:dont overthink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Definitely take your laptop. There are a number of places you can get free wi-fi, McDonalds for example and Starbucks if you have one of their loyalty cards and buy a coffee. So you can drop in to such places once a day and upload. Use a backpack-style computer bag and you won't have to worry about getting your kit stolen either. And there's nothing wrong at all with the food other than that London is more expensive than anywhere else. Try to stick to non-tourist places and you'll do better; and make sure you find a real English fish-and-chip shop. Fish, chips and mushy peas with lots of salt and vinegar is essentail to the Engish experience.

    34. Re:dont overthink by dantum_sh · · Score: 1

      Actually you can get free WiFi at Starbucks if you get one of their prepaid cards and register it. Some places have free WiFi too but BTOpenzone and Cloud (most common) are not free.

    35. Re:dont overthink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Region code? WTF is a region code in your wireless setup? I've lugged laptops over half the planet and never needed to reset anything to get wireless...

      Actually, it's the wi-fi router you set for a given region - to force it to only use the legal subset of channels for your region. So you would only have to change settings if you took your laptop *and your own wi-fi router* with you (e.g. to plug into a fixed line in a hotel room?).

    36. Re:dont overthink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agree with this. The price for mobile broadband in the UK make this a no-brainer for any geek.
      Also if you use an iPhone make sure you sign up for the international data plan before you go, and reset usage statistics when you arrive so you can check how much you've used (you don't want to overshoot the 20Mb or 50Mb limit).

    37. Re:dont overthink by magarity · · Score: 1

      Good grief - the point is: plug it into your voltage adapter
       
      I travel without a voltage adapter since the things are heavy and only have one socket. Laptop, shaver, toothbrush, phone charger, etc, are all already universal voltage so there's no need to convert the power first. A short extention cord with 4 grounded outlets on the end from the hardware store combined with just one socket adapter is just as useful if not more useful and not as heavy as a voltage adapter that you probably don't need.

    38. Re:dont overthink by phil-trick · · Score: 1

      I would thoroughly recommend the three UK MiFi modem, if you have an iPhone or smartphone with wifi capability, then you can get data access on the go without being ripped off.

      The details are here:
      http://www.three.co.uk/Mobile_Broadband/MiFi

      Get the basic top-up which includes 3GB.

      Once you are finished with it, sell it on ebay, or try to get it unlocked.

      I have one for when I travel to the UK for work, and I have only had it out of coverage once.

      Phil

  2. Have a great trip! by Pete+(big-pete) · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Take your laptop, the freedom to transfer your photos locally, and ready internet access with wifi will make it worthwhile. There are internet cafes around, but it'll be more fuss to find one and time out of your vacation, rather than just packing a power convertor and changing your wifi settings.

    Other things you might want to do in London could include:

    Of course, there are many other things too as people will list below, London is a big place with lots to see and do, enjoy your trip!

    -- Pete.

    1. Re:Have a great trip! by Shrike82 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I second the Science Museum recommendation - an amazing place to visit and it's free! The Planetarium is also worth a few hours.

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    2. Re:Have a great trip! by Jojoba86 · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you're there for two weeks get out of London too! Trains are quite good to places like Oxford, York and the South Coast to see a bit more of England, which are all quite different to London. Oxford is definitely worth a visit, and the steampunk exhibition that's on in the Museum of the History of Science should fill your 'geek' critea.

    3. Re:Have a great trip! by stranger_to_himself · · Score: 1

      If you're there for two weeks get out of London too! Trains are quite good to places like Oxford, York and the South Coast to see a bit more of England, which are all quite different to London.

      Oxford is definitely worth a visit, and the steampunk exhibition that's on in the Museum of the History of Science should fill your 'geek' critea.

      Cambridge is 50 minutes by rail and 15 pounds return from London Kings Cross station. There's great geek history ( way better than Oxford :-P ) here!

    4. Re:Have a great trip! by legoburner · · Score: 4, Informative

      And the natural history museum is just up the road from the science museum - perhaps the most impressive museum building in the world, built to be a cathedral to science and full of dinosaurs, rocks (including meteorites), a cool earthquake simulator, large mammals, and more dead things in jars than you will ever see anywhere else in your life.

      The Victoria and Albert museum is over the road from that too, and has a gigantic old persian rug (and I mean gigantic), and the very impressive cast courts that preserve many european statues and facades which were destroyed in the various conflicts since the victorian era.

    5. Re:Have a great trip! by PMBjornerud · · Score: 1

      Just back from a weekend trip (European) in London myself.

      Google maps on my phone was extremely convenient. Lots of open wifi around so you should be able to use it without data also roaming costs.

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    6. Re:Have a great trip! by inkhorn · · Score: 3, Informative

      I second the Science Museum recommendation - an amazing place to visit and it's free! The Planetarium is also worth a few hours.

      Err, you haven't been in a while have you. It closed in 2006.
      You'll be after the Peter Harrison Planetarium in Greenwich if it's astronomy you're into.

    7. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I doubt very much that you will have to do anything to your Wi-Fi - I just went to NY from London with my laptop and it was fine - it's just different bands being licensed differently in different countries - you'll find common ones though.

      Get a second power cord for your laptop and just wire a UK plug on. Simple. No messing with adaptors. Check the PSU will work beforehand of course, but they all do now.

      Tips for free WiFi:

      Individual Pubs (http://www.individualpubs.co.uk/) there's only two of them in London. The Pembury tavern is well worth checking out and the landlord is a former Cambridge University security researcher and geek - check out his homebrew Linux/Python/PostreSQL EPOS till system!

      JD Wetherspoon pubs (http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/) these are everywhere and should all have WiFi (open, bogus email signup required) unless the kit is broken.

      Fuller's pubs (http://www.fullers.co.uk) I think all have free WiFi now (protected, key available at bar) - port 80 + DNS only, unlike Wetherspoon's wich you can use arbitrary ports.

      Wetherspoon's do coffee, etc so you don't have to be drunk all the time!

    8. Re:Have a great trip! by qc_dk · · Score: 1

      Bring some really good walking shoes. Public transport in london is expensive and crowded. You'll get a lot more out of walking. But, you'll walk a lot.

      The Tate Modern is worth a visit just for the building, doesn't matter whether you're into modern art.
      The Natural History Museum next to The Science Museum is also worth a visit.
      If you are into architecture I would recommend sir John Soane's museum.
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    9. Re:Have a great trip! by AaronLawrence · · Score: 2, Interesting

      One interesting geek trip is to the Isle of Wight, where on one coast (the Needles) the British rocket testing facility lived for a while. There's also old and new artillery batteries there.

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    10. Re:Have a great trip! by abigsmurf · · Score: 1

      Would just like to add to that The Tower of London and The London Dungeons.

    11. Re:Have a great trip! by Alphager · · Score: 4, Informative

      I would also recommend the Imperial War Museum if you are interested in ww1 and ww2.

    12. Re:Have a great trip! by AigariusDebian · · Score: 1

      Second the Science Museum - at least for the http://www.flickr.com/photos/aigarius/288091449/

    13. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can also ask lots of London questions here: http://london.stackexchange.com/

    14. Re:Have a great trip! by SMoynihan · · Score: 4, Informative

      I second the Imperial War Museum. For bonus geek points, the building in which it is housed used to be Bedlam.

      Two other, slightly less well known places:

      Hunterian Museum at the royal college of surgeons - incredible array of medical curiosities.

      The Wallace Collection - Incredible array of art and armour housed in a splendidly ostentatious yet intimate townhouse. One Sunday a month, the rooms are lit candlelight.

      For a Cthulhuesque experience, you can trace the two halves of Babbage's Brain

      (*spoiler* one is in the science museum, the other the Hunterian)

    15. Re:Have a great trip! by obarthelemy · · Score: 1

      Also, Europe is a lot more about walking around than the US are. I live in Paris, which is kinda similar to London generally speaking. I always get puzzled looks when I try to tell tourists to WALK somewhere and show them a nice route to do it.

      Subway-hoping from tourist spot to tourist spot is less fun.

      Computer-wise, do whatever you would do if going to any city, even within the US. If you will you'll use your PC a lot (what a pity, you're on holiday !) take it. If not, don't.

      Beware of roaming fees for voice and data on your mobile phone. A calling card, Skype, IM, are much cheaper.

      Have a nice trip !

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    16. Re:Have a great trip! by MoogMan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Take a four-way power strip as well as an international power adaptor, it's most useful for charging.

      UK is ~240V, so duoble check that your device chargers cover that range.

    17. Re:Have a great trip! by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      I would second the Greenwich observatory as worth a visit. You used to be able to take a water taxi from central London to get there, which is fun itself, though I last did this decades ago.

    18. Re:Have a great trip! by Fred_A · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And the natural history museum is just up the road from the science museum - perhaps the most impressive museum building in the world, built to be a cathedral to science and full of dinosaurs, rocks (including meteorites), a cool earthquake simulator, large mammals, and more dead things in jars than you will ever see anywhere else in your life.

      Coming from the US, he has probably seen enough large mammals in the aisles of his local supermarket to last him a lifetime.

      The Natural History Museum is great though. I remember all the little bats (engraved) at the top of the columns in one of the rooms. In the 19th (it looked late 19th), they still took the time to make nice buildings (we're lucky enough to have a lot in Paris as well, among lots of earlier and later ones).

      And regarding your trip. Depending on how long you stay there, if it's more than a week, try to find a neighbourhood pub (a real one preferably, not one of those modern things) and meet the locals. Pubs are an important part of the British social life. And don't ever order US beer. Try the local bitters, see if they have any local breweries, try anything you've never heard of. Beware, they are served warm by US standards (where any drink is served just above solidification temperature). Putting ice in your beer will be considered weird.

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    19. Re:Have a great trip! by jacksonj04 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Small but incredibly useful tip if you plan on travelling around London to see the sights and intend on using the tube (It's easier and in most cases faster than anything else):

      Get an Oyster Card instead of buying individual or daily tickets. Cheaper fares, easier getting through the gates, and it works on busses as well.

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    20. Re:Have a great trip! by Matrix14 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Science Museum has a working Difference Engine (although it's just on display) and half of Babbage's brain.

    21. Re:Have a great trip! by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      Bring some really good walking shoes. Public transport in london is expensive and crowded. You'll get a lot more out of walking. But, you'll walk a lot.

      No it's not (expensive that is). Well not overly so. You need to get an Oyster card with an X day pass geared for the length of your stay and the area you plan on travelling into (the public transport network is zoned).
      The oyster system isn't very simple but it's the only sensible way to get around. Works in buses and the tube.
      Details : What is Oyster?

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    22. Re:Have a great trip! by ocularsinister · · Score: 3, Informative
      I agree about the Science Museum, but I think you'll find the planetarium a disappointment - they've shut down! Instead, consider a visit to Greenwich which *does* have a working planetarium.

      Also - don't bother with the London Eye - it's very expensive and mind crushingly dull.

      Since you are in London for 2 weeks, consider a trip to Oxford or Cambridge, both are possible as day trips. Cambridge has a great little museum of scientific equipment that I can highly recommend. (http://www.hps.cam.ac.uk/whipple/).

    23. Re:Have a great trip! by xorsyst · · Score: 5, Informative

      Get up to Bletchley Park, home of the UK WW2 code breaking effort. And Oxford is good too (way better than Cambridge, and cheaper to get to).

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    24. Re:Have a great trip! by sapphire+wyvern · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ironbridge looks like a very interesting place to visit if you can spare the time outside London. Lots of early Industrial Revolution relics. Speaking as an Australian, there's no part of England that's too far away from London to visit - but your mileage may vary!

    25. Re:Have a great trip! by RichardJenkins · · Score: 1

      And the National History Museum...

      I'm sure there are others, but living in London all I know is you do not want to get on the Tube in central London between 07:00AM and 9:30AM. For THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T!

    26. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Football. Catch a soccer match, perhaps not at the bigger clubs which will be sold out but at a place like QPR / Loftus Road (White City Tube stop) where you can get an intimate close feel of a game and sing along with the fans. A fun experience.

      Second suggestion to visit Cambridge & Oxford (use the Oxford Tube bus--cheap and easy).

      Laptop is also good for SKYPE so you can call home. Don't waste cash on calling cards / etc.

      At your hotel see if they have a weekly rate for Internet access instead of paying by the day. Can save some cash.

    27. Re:Have a great trip! by rapiddescent · · Score: 2, Informative

      > beware of roaming fees

      If you have a 3G phone then just pop into any of the multitude of mobile phone shops (TMobile, Orange, O2) or bigger super markets and ask for a 3G "Pay as you go" SIM card. They cost about GBP15 and come with credit so you can make calls to book restaurants and check the web whilst on the move. If your phone is locked against a provider at home, then just get a "pay as you go" USB 3G dongle for your laptop. They start at about GBP20 and can be used anywhere (I've used mine in the mountains of scotland).

      If you are bringing a laptop - remember that the UK is 240V. Most power bricks will auto switch to 220V-240V but worth checking. You will find UK power plug leads on any electrical store or one of the "aladins cave" electrical shops on Tottenham Court Road.

    28. Re:Have a great trip! by Wite_Noiz · · Score: 2, Informative

      Get the train from Euston to Bletchley (40 mins) and visit Bletchley Park: http://www.bletchleypark.org/
      The Computer Museum is geek heaven!

    29. Re:Have a great trip! by LizardKing · · Score: 1

      The London Dungeon is more of a kids thing, but if you do go then make sure you don't confuse it with the rather tawdry cash in called "The London Bridge Experience". That's just opposite the Londonbridge station, whereas the London Dungeon is to the right of the station. There's even an ongoing court case where the Dungeon people are trying to get the other lot shut down - they've already had them censured for trying to fool tourists into thinking they're the same attraction.

    30. Re:Have a great trip! by LizardKing · · Score: 1

      Ironbridge is a fair old trek from London - you'd need to at least stay overnight to make the most of it.

    31. Re:Have a great trip! by Azghoul · · Score: 1

      How can you call yourself a /. geek and fail to suggest an hour or two at the Royal Observatory!??!

    32. Re:Have a great trip! by xtracto · · Score: 1

      Ahhh London. Great memories I have from that city.

      In addition to what parent poster recommended, let me add these walking tours. We took one of them (the underground-related tour) and think it is worth every penny.

      Also, have a look at The London Dungeon if you like "scary houses". It combines the story of London and some of its myths in a really well done story. Providing a great atmosphere and good actors.

      Watch out for the queen's guards, they are known to have bad temper ;-).

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    33. Re:Have a great trip! by krou · · Score: 1

      Definitely ... taking the water taxi from Embankment to Greenwich is something my mother always does when she visits. It's a great way to see the sites of London.

      I'll add my voice to the chorus for the Science Museum, and also the Natural History Museum. No geek should avoid going to these two! The British Museum is great fun, too.

      Overall, it largely depends on what sort of geeky things you go for. Check out Pollock's Toy Museum if you're into games and construction toys. If you're into trains, check out the London Transport Museum. If you're into military, there's the Imperial History Museum, or the Royal Air Force Museum. The Design Museum is pretty cool, too. If you're into history, checkout the Museum of London, which is a history of the city. Also, the Victoria and Albert Museum is also pretty interesting. More about arts and crafts, though.

      Otherwise, there's also loads of art stuff, like Tate Modern, the National Gallery ...

      Have fun!

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    34. Re:Have a great trip! by KingDaveRa · · Score: 1

      Yes, yes, and a thousand times yes. So much cool stuff to see at BP. Contrary to popular beleif, there's a LOT more to England than London. You'll pay through the nose in London, so take a trip out to the other towns and places, and see what you can find. Nearly every major town has a museum of some kind (the County Towns are best for this), and there's a ton of other places inbetween. Visit London by all means, but don't forget about the rest of this country.

    35. Re:Have a great trip! by ruibm · · Score: 1

      Yup, Bletchley park is quite good and geeky. Been there myself recently. Don't miss the guided tours - you'll end up spending the whole day there wandering around... Here are some pics of the trip

    36. Re:Have a great trip! by TapeCutter · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, the buildings themselves are fascinating. Westminster blew me away and no geek should visit London without paying respects to Newton who is burried under it's floor. As others have mentioned the British museam is awsome and will easily cost you a full day. The Rossetta stone is just the tip of the iceberg, you cannot look at the greek/egyptian stonework and fail to be impressed with such skill and precision from bronze age and earlier tools. The hyroglyphs(sic) in particular look like they've been carved into the red granite with a laser beam.

      Frequenting the pubs is a key survival tip, it's the only place where you have any chance of getting something edible for a reasonable price.

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    37. Re:Have a great trip! by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      now that you mention walking:

      pick up a leaflet of "London Walks" IMHO that company offers the best guided tours there. Wide selection of tours available (varying geekness-factor; the spy & spycatcher tour was NOT your usual boring tour)

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    38. Re:Have a great trip! by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      Subway-hoping from tourist spot to tourist spot is less fun.

      But changing trains at Monument/Bank is an event on it's own! (pretty good model of what an ant in a large anthill feels like)

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    39. Re:Have a great trip! by quenda · · Score: 1

      those museums are all excellent, but for a true UK geek experience you should try Trainspotting

    40. Re:Have a great trip! by u.hertlein · · Score: 1

      I, too, second the Science Museum.

      Apart from, Forbidden Planet might be of interest.

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    41. Re:Have a great trip! by rhsanborn · · Score: 1

      I have a Nokia N800, but any smart phone with WiFi should do. I prefer to travel with the hand held. It still has SD slots to transfer pictures, and wifi to back them up and browse for travel info and check email. And it weighs a lot less than lugging around a laptop. Short of a netbook, I hate traveling anywhere with a laptop because it's a constant drag on the shoulder.

    42. Re:Have a great trip! by gbjbaanb · · Score: 5, Informative

      Try the local bitters, see if they have any local breweries, try anything you've never heard of.

      Amen to that. In fact try everything that sounds stupid or wierd. Our beers aren't called 'Bud Cool' or 'Rugged Macho' or anything like that, they have quirky names like 'Crop Circle', 'Granny wouldn't like it', or 'Piddle in the Hole'. Try them all, there are hundreds of different hop and malt combinations that make some of them similar to pils, but nicer, through to ones that look and taste like chocolate.

    43. Re:Have a great trip! by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, the buildings themselves are fascinating. Westminster blew me away and no geek should visit London without paying respects to Newton who is burried under it's floor. As others have mentioned the British museam is awsome and will easily cost you a full day. The Rossetta stone is just the tip of the iceberg, you cannot look at the greek/egyptian stonework and fail to be impressed with such skill and precision from bronze age and earlier tools. The hieroglyphs(fixed) in particular look like they've been carved into the red granite with a laser beam.

      Coming back from Egypt (again) I have to say that it is indeed very fascinating (not only because the Christians pretty much stole most ideas from their pantheon). They started lots of ideas in numerous domains that others later built upon. It's a very interesting civilisation. The main collections are at the Louvre in Paris and the British Museum thanks to our pillaging of the colonies in the last centuries (and in Egypt of course, although it's much more of a mess there).

      In the field, there are still innumerable buildings with carvings that are perfectly legible (some could have been carved yesterday, although they lost their colour), and if you bring the right book they aren't even that hard to read (if you aren't in a group since you'll only have about 5 to 10 seconds).

      Frequenting the pubs is a key survival tip, it's the only place where you have any chance of getting something edible for a reasonable price.

      Actually if you explore the side streets, you'll often find small strange looking restaurants that offer interesting alternatives to "pub grub" with soup and simple affordable nutritious food.

      When you're in London, try to rent something like a room with a kitchen (same price as a hotel). And grab some food at your local M&S for breakfast and supper. Try the "Citadines". They're usually good value.

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    44. Re:Have a great trip! by gander666 · · Score: 1

      I will second this. My old company's UK office was based there. To see and walk around the campus was pretty cool (as well as the time I spent in one of their physics labs teaching the students how to use a piece of equipment. Ah, my youth...)

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    45. Re:Have a great trip! by Tezcat · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't describe the London Eye as 'crushingly dull' : It's a sedate opportunity to enjoy the view over London, rather than a thrilling adventure ride. As for my advice: Get a good guidebook for general advice and 'must sees', but spend some time just wandering around. Take a day or two to visit the city of Bath, perhaps one of the most pleasant places in Britain.

    46. Re:Have a great trip! by Malc · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, there are two bus services to Oxford who both run 24 hours per day, often 3x per hour. I think they have free wireless too. I prefer Cambridge though as tourist. Ugh: all the hordes of visiting school children and other tourists around Carfax is enough to put anybody off Oxford. At least it's close to Blenheim Palace and the quaint village of Woodstock.

      Is Bletchley Park easy to get to from London using public transport?

    47. Re:Have a great trip! by digitig · · Score: 1

      Yes, all great recommendations, especially the Science Museum. The seats in the London Eye have RJ45 connectors under them, but none of us had a laptop when we went -- maybe another reason to bring your laptop?

      Because of the way London has grown, with different population centres all growing and merging, it doesn't really have one centre but many, so it's worth planning a bit and doing things that are close together each day, rather than spending too long travelling from place to place. I'd allow an hour to get from The Science Museum to The Tate Modern, so they're probably best for different days. I'd also recommend the free lunchtime jazz and classical concerts at the Royal Festival Hall (close to The London Eye) and I rather like the bohemian Camden Markets (not very close to any of the other places mentioned). None of that is very geeky, though, is it? If you want a day out of London, the Bletchley Park Museum is within easy reach for a day trip and needs support, but I've never been there since it's been a museum so I don't know how good it is (I trained there in the 1970s) and there's not much else to do in Bletchley!

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    48. Re:Have a great trip! by Malc · · Score: 1

      Be careful: I brought some when I moved here from Canada. I burnt one out in the first few days. It had a ceramic capacitor in there that couldn't handle the higher voltage. After a small of burning for a short time, it ended up in pieces. It was possibly a fire hazard. Also, I wouldn't trust power bars with lights/LEDs to survive either. The best power-bar purchase I made was at Best Buy in Shanghai: it has sockets that can plugs from anywhere in the world, and of course runs at 230V or 110V.

    49. Re:Have a great trip! by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      London is good for all the fancy museums, but get out of town - go to the Midlands and see some old stonework, like Kenilworth or Warwick castle. Have a wander round the tourist trail in Stratford or the Tolkein Trail, or just anywhere in the midlands

    50. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No Cambridge is beter it is more sciency, has all the tourist stuff, and the chance to get away from it aswell.

    51. Re:Have a great trip! by BlueLightning · · Score: 1

      Also, don't miss the Cabinet War Rooms in Whitehall (actually part of the Imperial War Museum).

    52. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, Cambridge is only 45 minutes from Kings Cross, and much nicer than Oxford. Of course I may be biased....

    53. Re:Have a great trip! by digitig · · Score: 1

      Depending on how long you stay there, if it's more than a week, try to find a neighbourhood pub (a real one preferably, not one of those modern things) and meet the locals. Pubs are an important part of the British social life.

      True, but declining sharply as people stay in to watch TV :-(

      Don't worry about our reputation for being reserved: we can be (when sober), but that just means we don't tend to strike up converations with strangers. We're usually more than happy for strangers to start conversations with us. (One for the psychology geeks.)

      And don't ever order US beer. Try the local bitters, see if they have any local breweries, try anything you've never heard of. Beware, they are served warm by US standards (where any drink is served just above solidification temperature). Putting ice in your beer will be considered weird.

      True. Warm beer is as much an abomination to the British drinker as it is for the American, but bitter should be cool, not cold. And not all beers are equal. Look for Cask Marque or CaMRA recommendations.

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    54. Re:Have a great trip! by DrXym · · Score: 1

      UK is 230V, as is most of the rest of Europe. At one time it was 240V, but voltage rates have been harmonized. Hence the reason many devices have been required to support 220-240V to facilitate that harmonization.

    55. Re:Have a great trip! by Stormx2 · · Score: 1

      Try the current Anish Kapoor Exhibition. It's physical art created via computer programmes Kapoor created. It's a treat from both a scientific and artistic viewpoint.

    56. Re:Have a great trip! by Xest · · Score: 1

      Yeah, most modern power supplies in Europe are rated 110v - 240v, I'd imagine US ones are exactly the same component so all that should be needed is the adapter. I'm not sure about changing the wireless region code he mentions too- I've never had to do that, when I travel from the UK to the US all I've ever needed to do is use the plug adapter!

    57. Re:Have a great trip! by MaggieL · · Score: 1

      I've done this too. Quite agree it's fantastic fun; it was the only thing I had time for on a one-day stay on London. That evening I saw Blue Man Group in Drury Lane...unfortunately I don't think you have that option.

      A few pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/maggiel/sets/72157594201000407/

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    58. Re:Have a great trip! by ubercam · · Score: 1

      Nevermind changing the entire cord just get a plug adapter, available from any decent travel store in the world, before you leave. Make sure it's grounded (i.e. the long pin is metal not plastic) and has the US/Canada 3 prong socket (not the 2 prong, those are for shavers). Some are universal too and accept European continental plugs and Aussie/NZ slanted ones. UK outlets are pretty well all switched anyways so no chance of a huge spark frying your fingers while trying to plug something in.

    59. Re:Have a great trip! by Xest · · Score: 1

      Kew Gardens too. I've always really liked going to Kew, some of the plants they have there are incredible. Walking in the canopy of the massive palm trees and seeing how the leaves just dwarf you in comparison is amazing. Their desert, temperate and prehistoric houses are all worth a look in fact.

      Oh, and as he's American, I'd suggest a trip to a British supermarket because our confectionary isles are fucking awesome compared to theirs ;)

    60. Re:Have a great trip! by digitig · · Score: 1

      And the site of the world's first permanent radio station. But travel is difficult -- hardly a day trip from London and would probably need to hire a car to get around the island because the railway line only goes around the east side of the island.

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    61. Re:Have a great trip! by markhb · · Score: 1

      One word of warning: the walk from the Tube stop to the Imperial War Museum is long. Or maybe we just picked an entirely wrong stop to get off at. Incidentally, the building that houses the IWM is the former Our Lady of Bethlehem Hospital, more familiarly known as Bedlam Asylum.

      It may not be particularly geeky, but visiting the Tower of London should be right up there with Westminster Abbey on the list of "things you absolutely have to do in London." You don't have to take the tour if you just want to run to the Jewel House to see diamonds the size of golf balls, but you'll learn a lot more if you do.

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    62. Re:Have a great trip! by digitig · · Score: 1

      Seconded -- the transport system is only expensive for walk-up-and-buy tickets. Prepay is much cheaper. As for crowded -- well, it depends when and where you travel. Yes, the rush hour is packed, but even walking can be a hassle then (try to walk past Oxford Circus tube in the rush hour!)

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    63. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      230V 50Hz

    64. Re:Have a great trip! by slim · · Score: 1

      (Pubs)

      True, but declining sharply as people stay in to watch TV :-(

      My observation is that good pubs are doing OK, while the crap pubs are suffering.

      This is actually good news for the discerning drinker. For a while, there were so many punters out and about, that a pub could rely on getting customers however terrible it was. Now you have to excel to survive.

      The pubs that still have customers today, generally do good food (if they serve food), well kept ale (along with lager for the proles), have friendly, competent staff etc.

      (For foreign readers: it's generally understood that the recession, combined with the smoking ban, drove customers away from pubs)

    65. Re:Have a great trip! by SMoynihan · · Score: 1

      The other half, as I might have mentioned elsewhere, is in the Hunterian Museum

    66. Re:Have a great trip! by digitig · · Score: 1

      Well, sort of. It was harmonised with the rest of Europe years ago, on ~230v, +10%, -6%. Since the preexisting ~240 distribution system is within that tolerance it was left alone, but the supply companies don't have to respond as soon to voltage drops.

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    67. Re:Have a great trip! by tcr · · Score: 1

      Tip from a local...

      If you find yourself near Kings Cross station, the British Library is next door.
      There's free wifi in there, and power sockets to charge your laptop one one side of the cafe.
      There are also power sockets near some of the rest benches, and most are in coverage of the free wifi.
       
      Also, the British Library is a cool place to explore.

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    68. Re:Have a great trip! by knutkracker · · Score: 1

      Also, consider visiting Avebury and Stonehenge (In that order). Very atmospheric and arguably the oldest computing devices in the world.

      For extra geek fun, read up on relevant archaeoastronomy first e.g. Gerald Hawkins so that you know what the scientific function of the sites was and can put it all into context.

    69. Re:Have a great trip! by slim · · Score: 1

      Football. Catch a soccer match, perhaps not at the bigger clubs which will be sold out but at a place like QPR / Loftus Road (White City Tube stop) where you can get an intimate close feel of a game and sing along with the fans. A fun experience.

      You could even go further down the Football Association pyramid. The lower a league it is, the cheaper it gets. Even in what's confusingly called "non-league", you get an entertaining couple of hours, and a slice of life, among a crowd of 1000 or so.

    70. Re:Have a great trip! by EricWright · · Score: 1

      If you're going to the Tate Modern, I'd suggest hitting up the Market Porter a few blocks away. It was my favorite free house when I was in London summer of 08. It had several brews with quirky names like the parent mentions ... all very good.

      An added benefit ... the Globe Theater is between the Tate Modern and the Market Porter!

    71. Re:Have a great trip! by evilandi · · Score: 1

      (I grew up just down the road from Ironbridge)

      The Ironbridge Gorge Museums (plural, more than one, mostly within 15-30 mins walk of each other) are indeed well worth a trip if you are keen on steampunk, engineering or Victorian / Industrial Revolution history.

      However Ironbridge itself is a bit of a bugger to get to. Train from Euston to Birmingham New Street, change for Telford Central, bus or expensive taxi from Telford Central. Total journey time 3 hours if you're lucky and all the connections fall in line.

      Given that you should spend a whole day at Blists Hill open-air museum alone, which includes an entire Victorian town, two or three foundries, a canal system, a funfair, two mineshafts and a whole lot of other stuff, I strongly recommend booking a hotel there for at least one night. The Swan Hotel and the Tontine Hotel are both perfectly okay (but not spectacular) and will put you in the centre of Ironbridge, easy walk or very short taxi ride to most attractions. If you've got more cash and want something larger, posher and quieter, the Best Western Valley Hotel is further away from the museums but excellent quality.

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    72. Re:Have a great trip! by tippe · · Score: 1

      London Dungeon is a waste of time and money. The 10 Worst London Tourist Attractions hits the nail on the head: "Boring, boring, boring and expensive!". Don't go there. The scariest thing there is price of admission (£13.95). Hit a pub instead.

    73. Re:Have a great trip! by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

      Have an idea of the kind of beer you like, though. If you're not fond of pale ales in general, you probably wouldn't like similar beers. I know that I prefer dark cream ales myself: using the brands that can actually be had in Canada/USA, I'll tolerate Guiness, but I much prefer Kilkenny or Caledonian 80/-.

      Other than that, I definitely agree.... if I go into a pub in the UK or Ireland, I'll tell them outright, "this is what I can get back home that I like, what do you have that's local?" Come to it, even around here, when I'm in a pub that I don't frequent, I'll ask what they have that's local before I ask for the big brand names.

    74. Re:Have a great trip! by fridaynightsmoke · · Score: 1

      UK is 230V, as is most of the rest of Europe. At one time it was 240V, but voltage rates have been harmonized. Hence the reason many devices have been required to support 220-240V to facilitate that harmonization.

      Not quite. When they 'harmonised' the voltages across Europe it was mainly about the input tolerances of appliances (eg a device must work on 220v-240v nominal); they didn't touch the actual power infrastructure at all.

      With the possible exception of newly-developed areas with brand new power infrastructure, power still comes out of the wall at good-old 240v (often 250v or more, with tolerances).

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    75. Re:Have a great trip! by gemtech · · Score: 1

      "220, 221, whatever it takes." Mr.Mom quote. The voltage varies with distribution and load, as it's not regulated like your PC power supply.
      I have a good friend that works in the power distribution section of AEP (American Electric Power, AEP owns the U.S.'s largest electricity transmission system). I asked him what a typical outlet in the U.S. should be: 115V, 120V, or 125V. His answer: yes.

      The point: Stop getting hung up on the exact voltage. It's not exact. It's closer to +/-15%.

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    76. Re:Have a great trip! by dintech · · Score: 1

      Bring an umbrella - it's been raining here a lot recently. You might be able to give it to Mary Poppins too. The umbrella that is.

    77. Re:Have a great trip! by randomlogin · · Score: 1

      Make sure you visit the Faraday Museum. I'm amazed that I've not seen this recommended yet, but if you value all things electrical and electronic it's like making a pilgrimage. Faraday's original workshop is still preserved as part of the museum at the Royal Institution.

    78. Re:Have a great trip! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      If you get an Oyster card then you can use any public transport in London for around £4/day. If you return the card at the end of your trip, you can get the deposit back, or you can hang on to it and lend it to the next person that you know is visiting London.

      Oh, and number one museum recommendation for London is the design museum, where you can see that form and function can coexist.

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    79. Re:Have a great trip! by Sebilrazen · · Score: 1

      I second the Oyster card. I'm in the EU every few months for work and you can only spend so many weekends in Amsterdam before you figure out why the Dutch don't think the prostitution and drugs are the coolest thing ever. I've taken to Chunnel-ing to London from Brussels and then spending a couple of days in the pubs catching live music. I just refill the Oyster when I arrive in King's/Pancraes and I'm good to go for the weekend.

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    80. Re:Have a great trip! by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      "The main collections are at the Louvre in Paris and the British Museum thanks to our pillaging of the colonies in the last centuries"

      That reminds me, there is an egyptian statue of a baboon god made of red granite in the Britsh museam, it's in excellent condition except that it's genitials are missing, apparently chiseled of by prudish victorian officials. A freind of mine who has been to the Louve and also revels in oddball history has confirmed the French have a matching (unmutilated) statue.

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    81. Re:Have a great trip! by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

      But... but... isn't Heroin illegal? I thought that was an integral part of Trainspotting

    82. Re:Have a great trip! by digitig · · Score: 1

      The decline was well underway before the smoking ban and recession, but they've certainly made it worse. The trouble for the discerning drinker is that the pub economy that is most successful is lots of people drinking high-profit drinks (heavily advertised identikit lagers), too noisy to chat because of the piped sport on TV, no space for a pool table. The pleasant quiet pub where people spend an evening socialising over just a couple of pints by definition isn't selling much and so is most under threat.

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    83. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is so nice about the other place! Cambridge is superior to the other place anytime

    84. Re:Have a great trip! by jslaff · · Score: 1

      Go to a football match (soccer to us Yanks). It's not a sport, it's a religion. And it's totally safe, not like the 1980s. Usually on Saturdays, but you can find international club matches during on Tuesdays and Wednesdays some weeks. And with the FA Cup entering its second round, there's a lot to see. Great crowds, sing along. If you're in London, for the big teams, there's Arsenal (in north London's Islington), Chelsea (off King's Road), Fulham (on the Thames in southwest London), and West Ham (in the East end). Oh, and Tottenham, but we won't talk about them...

    85. Re:Have a great trip! by Serious+Callers+Only · · Score: 1

      Frequenting the pubs is a key survival tip, it's the only place where you have any chance of getting something edible for a reasonable price.

      Sorry, I have to disagree here. There are loads of great places to eat in London, here's some examples off the top of my head:

      Woodlands, Marylebone High Street (Great, central, cheap South Indian food)
      Rasa Sayang, Chinatown (Cheap but good Malaysian)
      Tayyabs, East end (Great but cheap Pakistani food, behind the mosque, big queues most of the time)
      Royal China, all over town (Pricey but good Chinese, good for dim sum, big queues weekends)
      Meson Don Felipe, The Cut (yes, that's the name of a street) (Spanish Tapas, cheap, good wine, good atmosphere)
      Hafez, Hereford Road (Great Iranian food)
      Tas, all over town (Acceptable Turkish food)
      Gordons Wine Bar - wine bar dive in the middle of town for a change from pubs, of which there are few good ones in the center
      Princess Garden, Mayfair (Moderately priced dim sum)
      Mildred's, Soho (Moderately priced veggie)

      Avoid Convent Garden, Leicester Square, Brick Lane, and other touristy spots for eating/drinking (though Chinatown/soho is OK) and you should do fine. Most pubs will serve rubbish food in my experience, though there are some gastro pubs which do quite good food - if it's a trendy pub it might do quality food, otherwise probably not. Don't rely on reviews on google maps, which are often completely off base, ask a local.

      As for geeky things, don't forget the observatory in Greenwich, on the top of the hill in a lovely park with great views of London, plus the foot-passage under the river Thames which leads from Greenwich to the Isle of Dogs - worth a day trip on the DLR if you have the time.

    86. Re:Have a great trip! by evilkasper · · Score: 1

      Maybe it is because I spent so much time there but I prefer Cambridge to Oxford, I thought it was set up a little more conveniently. Thats and it was only 45 minute drive from RAF Mildenhall. I'd say go to Duxford Air Museum (where they fly the planes) but it might be a bit of a stretch to get there.

    87. Re:Have a great trip! by swillden · · Score: 1

      Also, don't miss the Cabinet War Rooms in Whitehall (actually part of the Imperial War Museum).

      Seconded! I spotted the Churchill Museum & Cabinet War Rooms by accident and decided to go in on a whim. Ended up spending most of a day there. Fascinating stuff.

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    88. Re:Have a great trip! by REPdetec · · Score: 1

      +1 for Imperial War Museum. Also, if it's still there, Alien War at Piccadilly Circus is awesome. It seems to close and reopen at 5 or 10 year intervals though.

    89. Re:Have a great trip! by gnieboer · · Score: 1

      Parent's reference to "M&S" is Mark's and Spencers, a ubiquitous department store chain/grocery. It's a great recommendation.

      I always make a stop in a local countries grocery stores and take a browse through the aisles. Not as dramatic as the British Museum etc (which all are must-do's), but finding strange flavored chips [UK: crisps] and other bizarre food items is a fun diversion.

      Definitely eat in the pubs, the UK is -expensive-, particularly London, so be prepared to go through food quickly. Though as mentioned, for goodness sakes never order a US beer. Only the worst US beer get exported generally, sadly the good micro-brews never make it out, giving the US a horrid beer reputation that isn't really deserved any longer.

      And also get some Indian take-away [US: Carry out]... UK cuisine used to be fish&chips and other assorted 'average' food, but the indian food is outstanding and is now really the most common staple IMO.

    90. Re:Have a great trip! by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      ring some really good walking shoes. Public transport in london is expensive and crowded
      On that note if you are going to use public transport in london get yourself an oyster card, fares on oyster are generally lower than paper tickets and they have a nice feature called daily price capping which "automatically calculates the cheapest fare for all the journeys you make in a single day".

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    91. Re:Have a great trip! by Meneguzzi · · Score: 1

      Depending on the amount of time you spend there, and on how many war museums you visited in the US (which I'm has plenty more than the UK), you might want to spend a Sunday on the Imperial War Museum in Duxford. When I lived in London these two IWMs were always very special to me. At the right times of the year they fly WW planes and you can even hop on one passenger plane of the era. All year round you can see the staff at the museum restoring old aircraft in their 6 hangars full of pretty much all the important planes of the era. As I said, you'll need a day to visit Duxford, and some planning to leave home early, since you will have to take a train to Cambridge first, and the buses to Duxford are not terribly frequent. On the bright side, you can take time to visit Cambridge before and after the IWM, so it's a good combo.

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    92. Re:Have a great trip! by jimbolauski · · Score: 1

      When the bar tender asks for 4 quid for the beer tell him all you have is pounds. Make sure to mention aloud that soccer is a sport for wimps. Ask as least 4 or 5 people if they’re from Australia.

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    93. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Regarding pubs, check the Churchill Arms just south of Notting Hill Gate on Kensington Church Street after a stroll in Hyde Park and the Portobello Market.

    94. Re:Have a great trip! by slim · · Score: 1

      It may be different in other parts of the country, but it doesn't tally with my (admittedly anecdotal) observations in Leamington and Warwick.

      "Vertical drinking" (loud music, identikit lagers, far fewer seats than drinkers) establishments seem to be much emptier than they used to be.

      Scummy boozers - the ones with no pretentions of being trendy, but that don't sell any decent bitter either - they seem to be doing worst of all. And that's because they were never pleasant places to be.

      Decent boozers - the places CAMRA members would hang out - are doing very nicely as far as I can tell. Indeed, I recently attended a talk by the head brewer from the Wye Valley Brewery, who said that the premium Real Ale sector was the only part of the brewing industry that was growing.

      I think it might be that the profit on a pint of this stuff is more than on the megaswill lager. You spend more, to drink less. The pub needs fewer people - and less drunk people - to turn a profit - making for a more pleasant atmosphere and a positive feedback mechanism for continuing to do well.

    95. Re:Have a great trip! by sgtrock · · Score: 1

      And regarding your trip. Depending on how long you stay there, if it's more than a week, try to find a neighbourhood pub (a real one preferably, not one of those modern things) and meet the locals. Pubs are an important part of the British social life. And don't ever order US beer. Try the local bitters, see if they have any local breweries, try anything you've never heard of. Beware, they are served warm by US standards (where any drink is served just above solidification temperature). Putting ice in your beer will be considered weird.

      While I am personally a strong proponent of sampling the local cuisine when traveling, I do feel the need to correct a couple of misperceptions about the selection and serving conditions of beer in the U.S. Anyone who has ever visited an Old Chicago knows that there is a broad and growing selection of really good beer brewed in the U.S. I will concede, though, that getting a decent stout served close to room temperature is next to impossible. Health inspectors, doncha know. :)

      In addition to the sampling at Old Chicago, every serious beer drinker in the U.S. has his or her own local favorite brewing companies. Utah has Bigamy Beer (as the label says, one is not enough). Wisconsin has Leinenkugel and James Page. Minnesota has Summit and Schell. Oregon has McMiniman's (sp?).

      Those are just my personal favorites among the many that I've sampled over the years. Every state has at least a couple of microbrew companies. Some, like Oregon, Minnesota, and Wisconsin, have dozens. There's no reason to drink a Bud Lite if you really don't want to. Don't let people tell you otherwise. :)

    96. Re:Have a great trip! by $1uck · · Score: 1

      I went to London last year and I took my laptop. Just get a converter/adapter for all of your electronics. My number 1 suggestion, don't get a hotel room. We rented a flat, it ended up costing the same, but having a lot more space and a kitchen. The flat also had wireless internet so no need for a special modem (I expect most hotels will have something similar but it may cost extra). I don't think I'll ever stay in a hotel on vacation again (if possible). I really enjoyed going to the local markets and cooking my own food (still ate out quite a bit, but its nice not to have to do that for every meal).

    97. Re:Have a great trip! by rackeer · · Score: 1

      Good picks. National Portrait Gallery is also worth a visit. London has about 300 museums where entry is free, guided tours included. Usually there are boxes at the exits where you can donate.

    98. Re:Have a great trip! by vertinox · · Score: 1

      Take your laptop, the freedom to transfer your photos locally, and ready internet access with wifi will make it worthwhile. There are internet cafes around, but it'll be more fuss to find one and time out of your vacation, rather than just packing a power convertor and changing your wifi settings.

      I can't believe anyone is missing the real point of this trip.

      When he comes back to US there is a 50/50 chance they will demand to search the files on his laptop (which is totally asinine as anyone really worth their intelligence will just keep anything worth finding hidden on the internet and not on the laptop).

      So yes... Bring your laptop. But whatever you do... Do not put anything.. And I mean ANYTHING! on it that you do not want other eyes looking at.

      Weather this be resumes, bank account information, or even MP3s and software. The customs will question it. They will also throw a fit if you refuse to unlock an encrypted partition if you find it.

      Some people advise doing the whole hidden partition true crypt setup, but I say its not worth the hassle and keep everything that I need access to stored remotely without saving any history or addresses on the laptop.

      Which is also handy if loose or have the laptop stolen they won't get to your personal things.

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    99. Re:Have a great trip! by Myopic · · Score: 1

      I just want to make sure you know that Americans also drink a staggering variety of delicious, high-quality beers with all sorts of crazy-ass names. We just don't export them to you. My faves these days are Fat Tire, Long Trail, Alaska Amber, and Spotted Cow, but there are hundreds more available where I am and thousands more that I sadly will never taste.

      And don't blame America for Budweiser, either; we sold that to you all on the other side of the pond. Enjoy that.

    100. Re:Have a great trip! by pythian · · Score: 1

      We have a beer called "Crop Circle" in the US (Madison, WI to be precise). Probably other places as well.

    101. Re:Have a great trip! by hughk · · Score: 1

      I would mention Bletchley Park, a mecca for geeks, particularly with their computer collection as well as the less usual cryptography collection. They have kit not just from WW2 but also from the cold war including from Warsaw Pact countries. It is essentially a day trip from London by Rail. When I was there they did a demo run of the Colossus replica - quite impressive and presented by Tony Sale, who led the reconstruction effort and is very knowledgeable. Oh, and he used to work as a technical officer for MI5 and is quite happy to talk about the relative merits of parallel processing with vacuum tube computers against Java on a modern PC. I don't know how things are now, but it is probably better to get on a tour as some of the bits weren't that well labeled when I was there.

      As a genral point, book your rail tickets in advance. the further in advance you book your tickets (you can do it from outside the UK), the cheaper they will be.

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    102. Re:Have a great trip! by redalien · · Score: 1

      Oh, come on, it is deserved. The microbrews are _passable_ but I've yet to find a good american beer.

    103. Re:Have a great trip! by Volante3192 · · Score: 1

      The caveat is those are local. The US beers large enough to get exported are not the ones you want to be caught dead ordering.

    104. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sweet... how about modern heros? Do they have dioramas of Captain Soap MacTavish??

    105. Re:Have a great trip! by digitig · · Score: 1

      It may be different in other parts of the country, but it doesn't tally with my (admittedly anecdotal) observations in Leamington and Warwick.

      Perhaps -- my recent experience is of London. I can see how a "boutique boozer" might work better in Warwick.

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    106. Re:Have a great trip! by sconeu · · Score: 1

      What about Bletchley Park? Doesn't that have a museum as well? If so, that's got to be a must for any true geek.

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    107. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Our beers aren't called that either. I'm 99% sure anything made by inBev or MillerSAB doesn't qualify as beer. OTOH, the US Microbrewers are turning out some nice crafts that put the old world to shame.

    108. Re:Have a great trip! by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Do you think the US does not have creatively-named microbrews? Shame on you. Beer is universal to all cultures. (Except maybe the deep south, where it's Bud and only Bud. Oh, and Utah, but it'd be a stretch to call anything in Utah "culture.")

    109. Re:Have a great trip! by kchrist · · Score: 1

      When he comes back to US there is a 50/50 chance they will demand to search the files on his laptop

      Get real. I've traveled internationally with my laptop a number of times and have never had customs/TSA take a second glance at it. I flew into Seattle (from Reykjavík) after my last trip a couple months ago -- an airport known for having overzealous customs -- and even after my wife and I were selected for a "random" tear-your-bags-apart search they didn't even ask about the two laptops we had with us. No requests to even turn them on, much less to look through them.

      I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it's nowhere near as common as Slashdot stories would suggest and certainly not 50/50.

    110. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check out the British Library - nearest tube station is Kings Cross.

      The current free exhibition is called "Points of View" and is excellent - its about the origins of photography with many fine and impressive prints form the dawn of photos plus lots of technical background about its development.

      http://www.bl.uk/pointsofview/

      While you are there see the permanent exhibition called the Treasures of the British Library. Within a few feet of each other you can see Mozart's notebooks, original drafts of lyrics by the Beatles, documents signed by Shakespeare etc, etc. Really a ton of fantastic stuff.

      Plus there is a great gift shop and the cafe is pretty good.

      Before you leave the area check out the new St Pancras Internal Railway Station which is next door - a wonderful combination of gigantic restored Victorian engineering and the best of modernist design.

    111. Re:Have a great trip! by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      McMenamins is more of a brewpub chain that doesn't bottle. Oregon's big brewing companies are Rogue Ale, Full Sail, Widmir, Deschutes Brewery and Bridgeport. Those five you'll see outside Oregon. Theres also alot of good beer out of Montana, Washington and Colorado, and of course the granddaddy - Anchor Steam from SF.

      Oregon used to have Henry Weinhards, sad day when that went away, I drank alot of Blue Boar Pale Ale less than a half mile from the Brewery and took the tour over ten times.

    112. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd say easily half of all chargers work on both 110 and 220. Just check and then buy an adapter for the plug so it fits into a UK socket, don't worry about a converter.

    113. Re:Have a great trip! by BeanThere · · Score: 1

      The Tate Modern sucks (seriously - unless you happen to like modern art or ugly buildings), but I wholly recommend the National Gallery if you want to see 'real', beautiful art.

      The Cartoon Museum is cool if that's your sort of thing.

    114. Re:Have a great trip! by mlush · · Score: 1

      No Cambridge is beter it is more sciency, has all the tourist stuff, and the chance to get away from it aswell.

      Would you care to name any good 'sciency' in attractions in Cambridge? The Sedgwick Museum is nice but hardly worth a trip from London

    115. Re:Have a great trip! by Quantumstate · · Score: 1

      That is quite a long distance from London, with public transport you wouldn't get much of a day there. Shropshire is a very nice area though, there are nice hills, especially further west if you enjoy walking. I would recommend staying overnight if you do go.

    116. Re:Have a great trip! by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      To be fair, putting ice in your beer here in the US is still considered weird.

    117. Re:Have a great trip! by koogydelbbog · · Score: 1

      Westminster tube station is itself worth a visit if you like modern buildings.

      and the big reveal as you exit opposite the houses of parliament is quite something.

      (Newton's grave is in the abbey if the parent isn't clear)

    118. Re:Have a great trip! by Shrike82 · · Score: 1

      Really? Well that's a blow! It seems the crappy waxworks have taken it over and turned it into some kind of Dome of Celebrities. I suppose it figures though, your average moron would much rather stare at a fake Paris Hilton waxwork than actually learn something about the cosmos.

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    119. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stonehenge is a let down. Avebury is far nicer. But if you're so far out from London already you might as well complete the journey to Bath and have a day out there. Lots of nice pubs, as well as the roman baths and abbey and all that.

    120. Re:Have a great trip! by sgtrock · · Score: 1

      Strange. I would have thought that Sam Adams out of Boston and San Francisco's Anchor Brewing were both large enough to support some exporting. While I'm personally not a huge fan of Sam Adams, it's certainly far better than Anheuser-Busch's product line. I highly recommend Anchor Steam, btw. There's nothing else quite like it.

    121. Re:Have a great trip! by hattig · · Score: 1

      You can walk anywhere within the circle line part of the tube, but if you're short on time I wouldn't walk more than two stops.

      A walk around Hyde Park is nice (Kensington Palace gardens), then take in Marble Arch, Wellington Arch (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=wellington+arch&sll=51.504656,-0.150461&sspn=0.015066,0.038581&ie=UTF8&hq=Wellington+Arch&hnear=Wellington+Arch,+Grosvenor+Place,+Westminster,+London+SW1X+7,+UK&t=h&z=14), Green Park, Buckingham Palace, St James Park and then you're close enough in the evening to enjoy a night out.

      Or walk up from Oxford Street to Regents Park, walk around there, see London Zoo, walk along Regents Canal to Camden for a night out.

      Buses are £1 a journey on Oyster, hardly breaking the bank is it?

    122. Re:Have a great trip! by horigath · · Score: 1

      Then you haven't really looked

    123. Re:Have a great trip! by philwebs · · Score: 1

      If you have the time take Eurostar from London to Paris at 180mph, takes a little over two hours, Phil

    124. Re:Have a great trip! by hattig · · Score: 1

      They've just redone Oxford Circus, so it's far less busy on the street now. It has Tokyo-style diagonal crossings and they've removed the street barriers that kept people hemmed in close to the tube entrances, and widened the footpaths too.

      But generally rush hour (4.30pm - 7pm) in London is pretty busy near the tubes entrances. Best to stay in a pub and have a lovely pint of beer.

    125. Re:Have a great trip! by Chokai · · Score: 1

      Don't miss the Imperial War Museum's air branch at Duxford. Harder to get to but still doable.

      I also would recommend the navy dockyard at Portsmouth. It's a 2 hour train ride from London and is about a 2 minute walk from the train station. Includes HMS Victory, HMS Warrior, Mary Rose numerous exhibits and so on and about 1/2 of the Royal Navy's current ships. Easy day trip.

    126. Re:Have a great trip! by digitig · · Score: 1

      They've just redone Oxford Circus, so it's far less busy on the street now. It has Tokyo-style diagonal crossings and they've removed the street barriers that kept people hemmed in close to the tube entrances, and widened the footpaths too.

      Good news!

      But generally rush hour (4.30pm - 7pm) in London is pretty busy near the tubes entrances. Best to stay in a pub and have a lovely pint of beer.

      Good idea!

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    127. Re:Have a great trip! by David+McBride · · Score: 1

      And regarding your trip. Depending on how long you stay there, if it's more than a week, try to find a neighbourhood pub (a real one preferably, not one of those modern things) and meet the locals.

      A friend of mine put together a list of decent pubs in the area; see: http://ashok.org.uk/thelist/

    128. Re:Have a great trip! by zonky · · Score: 1

      Go to Millwall. Wear a bum bag. Talk in a loud american voice. You'll have a quality experience.

    129. Re:Have a great trip! by euxneks · · Score: 1

      Agreed, please mod parent up beyond 5 ;)

      I went to Bletchley and was supremely impressed with the amount of computing history they had there! Plus I got a really cool mug that changes colour when you put hot liquids in it!

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    130. Re:Have a great trip! by garyj4 · · Score: 1

      Wow that brings back memories. I was station in the UK in the late 80's through 91. I always had a good time at the Imperial War Museum. Defintely agree, find a local pub.

    131. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The museum at Greenwich Meridian is great. All sorts of time keeping implements. How does one design an accurate clock that can be taken aboard a ship without the waves affecting the sway of a pendulum.

    132. Re:Have a great trip! by Volante3192 · · Score: 1

      You're still fighting for tap space though. Sufficed to say if there are taps with Sam Adams there, you'd likely have to find them rather than expect it as a staple.

      Note, I have no real evidence of this, and I can't remember what was on the taps in Sydney when I went there (only one I can name was Toohey's Black cause I had about 5 pints of that one.) But I do remember generally that most were domestic varieties with probably a Heinekin and a couple others imported.

      I also am, of course, restricting myself to taps (which I just realized), who knows what they might have in bottle and in that regard they could have some Sam Adams.

    133. Re:Have a great trip! by kackle · · Score: 1

      I'd be cautious about the the voltage conversion issue. I bought a cheap, Radio Shack 240-to-120 VAC converter to use with my electric razor in the U.K. A week and a half later, the shaver stopped working. Upon opening it at home, I found the solder that was holding the AC wires to the PCB had melted away...

      I tell you what though, I never had a faster shave than during those 10 days!

    134. Re:Have a great trip! by noir_lord · · Score: 1

      I was in London a few years ago, I'd dreamt of going to the Science Museum since I was a kid and finally got to go...I was deeply unimpressed however finding myself with time to kill I walked up the road and visited the Natural History Museum which was completely and utterly brilliant, it would have been worth the trip to London just for that in hindsight I wish I'd gone there first since you could easily kill an entire day wandering around looking at some of the amazing exhibits.

    135. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The Natural History Museum is great though. I remember all the little bats (engraved) at the top of the columns in one of the rooms."

      It's even cooler than that. Some of the carvings aren't bats, but are pterosaurs/pterodactyls, and various other extinct fossil creatures. Some of the columns are carved in the shape of the unusual, diamond-shaped bark of Carboniferous giant lycopod trees. The building is almost as interesting as the displays are.

    136. Re:Have a great trip! by Dreen · · Score: 1

      Unless he has some very old gear there is a voltage converter built in. Buy plug converters in any electronic store on the spot.

    137. Re:Have a great trip! by nick_danger · · Score: 1

      I spent a month there a year ago; the trains are the best. Anywhere my wife and I wanted to go, there were two trains an hour. We never worried about transportation on the far end; you can nearly always find a cab even in the sticks. TfL's London Transport Museum is off the beaten path, and has a fair amount of cool stuff.

    138. Re:Have a great trip! by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

      Most transformer blocks on laptops will say they'll work across the ranges you find in North America, Japan and the various countries in Europe, but mine blew out after being plugged in to the wall in a London hotel for only a few hours. Made carrying around that desktop replacement laptop for the next month across Europe kind of annoying.

      Could be coincidence of course, but I did double check the numbers printed on the block to make sure it matched the power in the hotel. My sister's netbook worked fine.

      My advice to the OP: just don't confuse a travel power adapter (which makes your laptop work with the different and varied kinds of plugs found around the world) with a transformer.

    139. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Putting ice in your beer will be considered weird.

      This is probably true anywhere in the civilised world :) Bitters are typically served near room temperature. Lagers are served cold, but you'll probably be offered Fosters, which is an Australian ring-in. A pint in the UK is bigger than in the US (0.57 vs 0.47 litres) so you might like to ask for 'a half' until your sure you like the beer. Should you wish to partake of some weird ice cube ritual with your beer then there is usually an ice-bucket on the bar from which to help yourself. This arrangement allows people partaking of drink more traditionally containing ice to adjust their drink to taste.

    140. Re:Have a great trip! by dyshexic · · Score: 1

      there is a 24 hour bus service to oxford which takes about an hour and half, and a train that takes an hour that runs till about midnight If you come up to oxford (or going to cambridge) be aware their is no campus, just lots of colleges everywhere. I have no idea what your budget is but if you like multi-star places can i suggest the old parsonage hotel and the other end of the the scale the YHA is right by the station

    141. Re:Have a great trip! by Lunzo · · Score: 1

      Coming back from Egypt (again) I have to say that it is indeed very fascinating (not only because the Christians pretty much stole most ideas from their pantheon).

      Citation Needed.

    142. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can find American beer in bottles here in Australia but you'll never find one on tap. You'll occasionally see Heiniken, Guinness or Stella Artois, but we have a ridiculous amount of local breweries and little demand for imports. The best breweries in Australia are Coopers, Cascade and James Boag.

    143. Re:Have a great trip! by dkf · · Score: 1

      UK is 230V, as is most of the rest of Europe. At one time it was 240V, but voltage rates have been harmonized. Hence the reason many devices have been required to support 220-240V to facilitate that harmonization.

      Only nominally. In practice, what's happened is that devices have had to cope with wider ranges of voltages than before. For switched-mode power supplies, this is not an issue (they run hotter on the higher voltage than in North America, but not so much that it's a big issue) and you won't be bringing the straight resistive-load devices where this would be a problem. After all, why would you bring a kettle when you can get one for hardly anything in any supermarket? Hotels that have razor sockets in the bathroom will also allow you to control the voltage delivered there.

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    144. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeedy. Buy a copy of the Good Beer Guide in fact.

    145. Re:Have a great trip! by ma11achy · · Score: 1

      I agree to the above....except the London Eye.

      It costs approx. £17 pounds sterling (about $30 dollars) to go on a ferris wheel for 20 minutes. Daylight robbery.

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    146. Re:Have a great trip! by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      UK is 230V
      semi-true, the voltage at the consumers intake is supposed to be 230V+10%-6%

      also a voltage drop of 5% of the nominal voltage is allowed in the design of the customers wiring.

      So the voltage at the socket could be anywhere from 204.7V to 253V.

      Every time i've actually measured it my measurements have been between 240V and 250V.

      At one time it was 240V, but voltage rates have been harmonized.
      This is what I reffer to as fake harmonisation, the nominal voltage is harmonised but the tolerance bands are so wide that everyone can go on as before (and the tolerance bands are not harmonised either afaict)

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    147. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Birmingham Canal network is great for transport geeks - e.g. start at Old Turn Junction (10 mins walk from New Street station) and head towards Wolverhampton. For part of the way there's a choice of an 'upper' canal (older, more trad canal with more locks) or the 'lower' canal ('newer' deep cut with fewer locks) and you can switch between them at Smethick pumping station (pumped water from lower to upper canal). Smethick Galton Bridge is a Victorian wonder all on its own. Esssentially you've got two canals, two levels of railway (each with their own station) and a vintage road bridge (foot traffic only) all stacked up/intertwined. And the lower canal goes into a nice tunnel.
      Here's most of it:
      http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&source=hp&ie=UTF8&q=smethwick+train+station&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=train+station&hnear=smethwick&view=map&cid=17105829675278253099&ved=0CBMQpQY&ei=CEgNS6yVD-PMjAfgrtivBw&ll=52.50224,-1.977882&spn=0.004402,0.007617&t=k&z=17

      The pyramid shapes are the roof of the two-level station, at the point the upper and lower railway lines cross.
      The lower canal runs in the deep cutting NW to SE, the upper canal is just visible in the NE corner.

      The historic Galton (road) Bridge itself is the middle one of the three (with the new wider road bridge below it in the SE corner).

      Regular trains from Birmingham New Street take just a few minutes.

      That's just the start. Canals radiate in all directions from Birmingham, often mixing with railways in a fascinating way. In many cases you can walk a few miles out and then get a train back, or carry on further to a different station, but actually I'd recommend starting outside Birmingham and ending up in the centre at Old Turn Junction where all the canals converge - lots of good pubs and eating places there, and the National Sealife Centre if you like that sort of thing.

    148. Re:Have a great trip! by sgtrock · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the clarification. I remember Henry's, btw. I didn't realize it was an Oregonian brew. For some reason I thought it was brewed somewhere in extreme northern California.

    149. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better to go to Cambridge, 45 minutes on the express from King's Cross. Go to Great St Mary's church at the market and see if someone will take you up in the tower to see the bells. Visit King's College chapel and look over the carvings done for Henry and Anne. Go outside on the gravel and have your picture taken a la Watson and Crick. Lots of coffee shops around the market. I especially like the one across from Caius Gonville college.

      N.B.: sundown is at 4 pm this time of year so plan on going to the theatre in the west end a lot.

    150. Re:Have a great trip! by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      Henry's was a Portland brewery from the 1850s, they got bought out by Miller and moved production to Olympia's plant in Tumwater WA in 1999.

      Some of the brewery buildings are still there and part of a big urban renewal project in Portland.

    151. Re:Have a great trip! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forget museums! Go to Saint John's Wood and have your picture taken in the Abbey Road zebra crossing. Find the nearby Little Venice canal area and imagine living on a canal boat next to Richard Branson.

        Actually there is a worthwhile museum. The National Portrait gallery at Trafalger Square contains a Holbein called The French Ambassadors. Your job is to find the hidden images.

    152. Re:Have a great trip! by machinder · · Score: 1

      Try a Budweiser here, too. They're the real thing, not the Anheiser Busch dog's piss. Try a cider or a scrumpy as well. You'll weep for what could have been next time you have a "bud" or a Strongbow.

      If you fancy trying local brews, you can buy the Campaign for Real Ale's Good Beer Guide: http://www.camra.org.uk/page.aspx?o=192602 . They sell it in book, ebook, and GPS POI file formats. Also look for the casque mark sign on pub entrances. They identify pubs that sell proper cask ales, and have proper cellaring and handling conditions. http://www.cask-marque.co.uk/

      Regarding your power adaptor, any Maplins, Dixon's, Currys will sell North American to British adaptors. If you're flying through Heathrow T3, there's a last-chance duty free after baggage claim that sells them for £5. Muji sells a good, cheap all-countries adaptor as well, but its heavy and big.

    153. Re:Have a great trip! by xaxa · · Score: 1

      Is Bletchley Park easy to get to from London using public transport?

      I haven't been (yet), but the website says it is. There seems to be a train every 15 minutes (check times and fares here) and the museum/park is opposite the station.

      If you book longer-distance train journeys in advance you save loads of money, but you do have to take the specific train you booked. (e.g. a standard one-way ticket from London to Sheffield (170mi, 2hrs) is £20, book in advance and you've a good chance of paying just £5).

    154. Re:Have a great trip! by xaxa · · Score: 1

      (I live in London.)

      I visited Portsmouth a few weeks ago (it's good if you're interested in naval history, but there's not much else to see). The train takes 90 minutes from London. I think it's an additional 20-30 minutes to take the ferry to Ryde (put those places into here to see). That's easily day-trippable. I'd take my bicycle (free on both the train and the ferry).

      The island is bigger than I thought though... Alum Bay (radio place) is 20 miles from Ryde. You could take the train to Lymington and a ferry to Yarmouth, about 3 hours, but that's no longer my idea of a day trip.

    155. Re:Have a great trip! by xaxa · · Score: 1

      Also, be aware that there are maps on every bus stop (of streets within 100m, say), larger maps on most bus shelters and all stations.
      (I don't mean the spider maps of public transport, which are also on every stop/station, I mean real street maps.)

      I've yet to find a city with better maps on display.

    156. Re:Have a great trip! by yuribashi · · Score: 1

      ...and don't forget to see the Wallace Collection [http://www.wallacecollection.org/] --Yuribashi

    157. Re:Have a great trip! by redalien · · Score: 1

      Had two of the three, seriously, they're substandard.

  3. Your power convertor should handle UK power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All you should need is a simple adapter that converts from US plug to the unwieldy british nightmare-plug. Got rad shack.

    The most important rule for Americans in Britain is to not try to keep up with the natives when it comes to drinking. Don't even attempt it.

    1. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by legoburner · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You can buy them easily from the airport too (especially coming into the UK). Changing wifi settings is not needed - it is still 2.4ghz, the standard only changes the power levels. If it works in the US it will work in the UK. For more geeky things, the welcome trust (featuring victorian medical curiosities like darwin's walking cane, a mummified south american, mad king george's hair, 19th century japanese sex toys, etc) and the british library treasures room (featuring the magna carta, gutenburg bible, domesday book, early maps, da vinci notes, shakespeare, beatles, etc) are great and are practically next door to each other. Most locals dont even know about them but they are definitely worth half a day or so between them.

    2. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by polar+red · · Score: 2, Funny

      The most important rule for Brittons in Belgium is : don't try your drinking habbits on the belgian beer. it's much stronger(and better) than you're used to; furthermore : taste the effing beer please, in stead of gulping it down.

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    3. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *The most important rule for cockneys in Belgium is...

    4. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by unts · · Score: 2, Informative

      Changing wifi settings is not needed - it is still 2.4ghz

      The UK allows a couple of extra channels (12 and 13) that I believe you can't use in the US. It might be necessary to change some settings to allow use of these channels.

      However, few APs actually use these channels, so it's unlikely to be much of an issue.

    5. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *The most important rule for cockneys in Belgium is...

      I guess 'cockney' is one those words I often hear Brits use to show that prejudice is still OK?

    6. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      The most important rule for Brittons in Belgium is : don't try your drinking habbits on the belgian beer. it's much stronger(and better) than you're used to; furthermore : taste the effing beer please, in stead of gulping it down.

      That really depends on which Belgian beer. Some you really want to just gulp down (preferably with a tube to your stomach to spare your tastebuds) and not taste. There's some *really* weird stuff out there.
      Of course as long as beer is involved I'll try anything at least once, but some of the Belgian beers I certainly won't try twice.

      For the traveller who's interested in beers (or if you happen to live in a cosmopolitan area), try to get your hands on the African Guinness or the Indian stouts. They have to be sampled at least once (they're mostly curiosities).

      Disclaimer : I'm not really fond of the "wild yeast" (where you basically wait for some random yeast to come and ferment your beer) variety, and a lot of Belgian beers are made that way. A lot of people enjoy it though, so YMMV.

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    7. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by polar+red · · Score: 1

      some of the Belgian beers I certainly won't try twice

      there are at least 200 different ones, apart from the pilseners, so you won't run out of options quick.

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    8. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some wi-fi channels are not supported in certain countries. I think Channels 11 to 13 are supported in the UK.

    9. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      there are at least 200 different ones, apart from the pilseners, so you won't run out of options quick.

      At least, probably twice as many. France, which isn't a beer country (well people certainly mostly drink beer in bars but we don't have any *great* beers, or at least not many, and none known outside of the country) has at least 200 beers (thanks to all the microbreweries, most of which aren't known outside of their small area).

      Beer is very easy to make. You can easily make some in your kitchen. Wine, not so*. Oddly, we have lots of wine (there used to be great wine all around the Mediterranean, but religion, mostly, and plant illnesses, as a distant second apparently removed most other producers, save for Italy, Spain and *maybe* Portugal).

      Anyway, in Britain, or rather the UK and Ireland, both of which make great beer, and Belgium, which also makes great beer (according to lots of people, since it's not my style, see "wild yeasts" in my post above), I'm pretty sure that a complete survey would show *at least* 1 000 different brands in each territory.

      (*) Well, you *could* make wine in your kitchen. You *can* do it really. But between making decent beer (fairly easy) and decent wine (good luck), there's a bit of difference.

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    10. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by VShael · · Score: 1

      The wild yeast, as you call it, is actually very region specific. Even amongst all the wild yeast variations (and there are many) the flavours can change quite a bit from area to area.

      In any case, there's more than enough beers to suit every palate, even those who claim they don't like beer, can usually find one here that they enjoy.

    11. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by dave420 · · Score: 1

      No. Not even close.

    12. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by Inda · · Score: 1

      You know one of the most popular lagers in the UK came from Belgium? Only we've left ours stronger.

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    13. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by NCG_Mike · · Score: 1

      I drink Vedett like it's Heineken. I've spent about seven years in Antwerp (Belgium, well Flanders) and the same in Amsterdam (Netherlands) and I *still* drink like the Yorkshireman I am.

    14. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by digitig · · Score: 1

      Well, you *could* make wine in your kitchen. You *can* do it really. But between making decent beer (fairly easy) and decent wine (good luck), there's a bit of difference.

      I think the issue isn't the difficulty with making good quality stuff, it's that beer drinkers tend to be less discerning. I remember being served a pint in a pub and realising that it wasn't as good as the ten gallons of homebrew I'd poured down the drain the previous week because it wasn't up to standard. On the other hand I've routinely made wine towards the better end of vin de table, which I'd count as at least "decent". The main thing is that making decent wine takes a lot longer -- years longer. Most homebrew wine makers serve it too young.

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    15. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only down 'Sarf' otherwise you just replace 'cockney' with 'C*nt'

    16. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually British wifi allows two additional channels (12 and 13?), compared to the US laws. If you don't change your laptop's setting for it, you won't be able to join any networks that are using those channels.

    17. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by red_pill1987 · · Score: 1

      on the subject of the welcom trust, the old oprating theater is an amazing medical musiem that fetures demstrations of 19th centure surgical techniques and is a five minite walk from london bridge train station

    18. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      After pushbike riding from Gare du Mid to Gare du Nord on a hot sweaty day I took a break and stopped off for a drink. I think it was called 'Chamay Trapiste' - I drank 333ml of it, then another. I hallucinated a Polish guy behind the bar and he gave me a third.
      Strongest beer I've ever had.
      Later I found out that the beer was made by Belgian Trapist monks.
      Good stuff, but I wouldn't drink it if you had something else to do that day.

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    19. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by polar+red · · Score: 1

      it's 'chimay' http://www.chimay.com/ 7(red),8(triple) or 9%(blue). Not the strongest beers (we have up to 12%, and 1 goes to 28% i think) but certainly one of the higher qualities.

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    20. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      Them's the ones! So he must have given me a Red, then Triple and then Blue in that order, and it also means I wasn't hallucinating. Well maybe I was at the end.
      I mean imaging drinking a litre of strong beer straight after a fast ride!
      Much respect for the Belgians. Nice, friendly people.

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    21. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by polar+red · · Score: 1

      Nice, friendly people.

      certainly not all of us.

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    22. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by dkf · · Score: 1

      The UK allows a couple of extra channels (12 and 13) that I believe you can't use in the US. It might be necessary to change some settings to allow use of these channels.

      However, few APs actually use these channels, so it's unlikely to be much of an issue.

      It's especially not an issue because he's not bringing an access point (that would be a silly thing to bring for a two-week trip). Almost all APs are on channels 1, 6 and 11, the same as virtually everywhere else in the world; if you find another in use, it's almost worth posting a story on /. about it...

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    23. Re:Your power convertor should handle UK power by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      It amazes me that the one country has for years had Flemish and French co-existing side by side. Has that ever been a problem?
      Just curious.

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  4. Most important thing to do in London by Gandalf_Greyhame · · Score: 1

    The most important thing to do in London is simple - Monopoly board pub crawl. Start at Old Kent road and work your way up to Mayfair. One pub per street on the Monopoly board

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    1. Re:Most important thing to do in London by dintech · · Score: 1

      The mobile network operator o2 (who have many stores around London) offer pay-as-you-go 3G mobile broadband dongles for £30. Although other companies offer mobile broadband, only o2 offer a 14 day money back guarantee on it, so you if you want to be cheeky you could in theory get your £30 back. You can buy the modem at any o2 shop.

      You also get free access to many o2 ("cloud") hotspots which are the most commonly found wi-fi zones in pubs, shops, restaurants and cafes.

      http://shop.o2.co.uk/promo/o2mobilebroadband/tab/Pay_and_Go

      It think there's and iPhone app which tells you how close you are to one of them.

    2. Re:Most important thing to do in London by autora · · Score: 1

      *wonders why parent recommends O2 considering every single network operator in the UK offers pretty much the same deal for the "pay-as-you-go" 3G dongles and O2 has the worst 3G network of the lot.* None of them are really pay-as-you-go if you read the fine-print - they are more accurately called rolling monthly contracts. (ie. any credit you buy will expire within the month, you just aren't tied in to a 12/18 month contract.) Anyway I'm prolly a bit off-topic by now as if the OP uses this option over using the multitude of WiFi hotspots he won't care about the credit expiration anyway.

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    3. Re:Most important thing to do in London by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      Alternatively, you can pay for access to the BT OpenZone hotspots on either a short or longer term, which tend to be broadcast from some phone booths, places like Starbucks, McDonalds etc so it's unlikely you won't be able to find wifi within 50 yards unless you're outside the tourist areas.

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    4. Re:Most important thing to do in London by petaflop · · Score: 1

      None of them are really pay-as-you-go if you read the fine-print - they are more accurately called rolling monthly contracts. (ie. any credit you buy will expire within the month, you just aren't tied in to a 12/18 month contract.)

      Not true. I've had 5 PAYG phones now, and I've never had a contract like you describe. I only use my phone for emergencies, so I top it up with £10 about once a year, and the credit never expires. My last phone (which died last month) was with O2, my new one is Tesco mobile. If you bought a rolling monthly contract labelled as a PAYG, then it was being mis-sold.

    5. Re:Most important thing to do in London by dintech · · Score: 1

      wonders why parent recommends O2

      Read the comment. It's the only operator that allows you to return it. Useful if you only need it for two weeks.

    6. Re:Most important thing to do in London by autora · · Score: 2, Informative

      Mate - read the post more carefully - we are talking about 3G dongles that you plug into your laptop not phones. I am well aware that phones can be used truly as pay-as-you-go - in fact I run my iPhone as payasyougo.

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    7. Re:Most important thing to do in London by dintech · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's 30 days:

      The Happiness Guarantee is intended to allow you time to try our mobile broadband service where you’d usually use it and not as an equipment trial. You can cancel your contract without penalty within the first 30 days. O2 will refund the USB modem cost if this was chargeable. Any additional charges including any subscription charges covering the period during which you have been connected, excess data usage and any charges relating to text and/or roaming will not be refunded and are excluded from the promotion. For Pay & Go, O2 will refund the USB modem cost. Any additional charges including any Access charges and any charges relating to text and/or roaming will not be refunded and are excluded from the promotion. This guarantee is only available if all equipment (USB modem and laptop where applicable) is returned prior to cancellation. O2 reserves the right to amend or withdraw this promotion at any time without further notice. This guarantee does not include any laptop/mini-laptop taken with O2 Mobile Broadband. Terms apply.

    8. Re:Most important thing to do in London by autora · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not true - all the operators allow you this returns policy. My point stands - there is very little difference between the packages and O2's network sucks. Not going to do your homework for you, but as an example: 3G states 14 day money back guarantee here: http://threestore.three.co.uk/broadband/?id=1397

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    9. Re:Most important thing to do in London by dintech · · Score: 1

      I purchased mine from Carphone Warehouse (and later returned it) when I was without broadband during a house move. When I returned it, I was told that it was lucky it was on O2 as the others don't easily accept returns of mobile broadband dongles on the basis of poor reception or whatever excuse you make up. Especially T-Mobile and 3.

      If you're going to buy one of these on holiday to return it at the end, best to choose the operator with the easiest returns policy. This is my personal experience which I am sharing, so this is all I can comment on. I'm not going to advise on other networks for returns when I haven't actually done that myself. How about you? Anyway, why does this bother you so much?

    10. Re:Most important thing to do in London by autora · · Score: 1

      Ok - that is useful info to know that O2 honour their returns policy better than the other networks.

      Why does it bother me so much?
      Because I happened to have researched the 3G dongles for work (was asked by boss man to provide the sales men with the "best" 3G dongle out there.) Therefore I thought I could add to the discussion. I pointed out that all the operators were offering (at least on paper) the same thing that the GPP was stating only O2 provided. Hence I was correcting some information.

      Then I had to correct some incorrect replies (ie. that someone thought I was talking about phones not usb data sticks and that O2 were the only people providing a returns policy.)

      Not sure why I'm continuing this except that perhaps I'm a little bored at work and like the distraction.

      Why does it bother you that it bothers me?

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    11. Re:Most important thing to do in London by dintech · · Score: 1

      Why does it bother you that it bothers me?

      Good question. It bothers me that it bothers me that it bothers you. :)

    12. Re:Most important thing to do in London by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would second this - I was going to suggest finding a nice cosy pub and drink warm ale from a cask - thats what we Brits spend the winter doing anyway (In the summer we sometimes use the beer garden).

      There isn't anywhere in the British isles that isn't a days travel from London.

      The south coast around dorset (look for Jurasic Coast bus trips) is pleasant and on the way down you can stop off at stone henge in Salisbury.

      Further west you should visit Bath and drink the spring water from the tea rooms.

      If you have the time and money I would take a few days and visit Edinburgh in Scotland too - like a smaller more friendly version of London (if you do, make sure you do the underground city tour/ghost walk).

    13. Re:Most important thing to do in London by BForrester · · Score: 1

      That might be a bit of a localisation issue. The American version of Monopoly has things like Vermont, Tennessee, and Virginia, with Old Kent and Mayfair nowhere to be found.

    14. Re:Most important thing to do in London by boristhespider · · Score: 1

      But if you do go to Edinburgh for the love of God don't make the mistake of saying anything that implies you think you're still in England.

      Actually, that's good advice in general -- the English generally don't give a shit but everyone else tends to get very twitchy about what you call things. England, the UK and Britain are not synonyms. It's best to say "Britain" or "the UK" pretty much universally and try and forget you ever heard the word "England". (Hypocritically, this is reasonable in Scotland or Wales but there you're better using the words "Scotland" or "Wales" in preference.) Even if you're staying in London it's got enough people from all over the UK that you could absolutely inadvertently cause offense and then have some Scottish guy lecture you aggressively for three hours about English arrogance etc etc etc they take our oil etc etc etc Culloden etc etc etc.

    15. Re:Most important thing to do in London by slim · · Score: 1

      Most British people believe that Monopoly is a classic British creation, and that the London version is the original and best.

      The fact is, the original version was American, based on Atlantic City.

      This doesn't detract from the appeal of a Monopoly pub crawl, at least for Britons. Best stick to halves though...

    16. Re:Most important thing to do in London by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      I have read up on the different options when looking to buy a mobile broadband dongle and the answer seems to be that all the networks do it differently.

      On O2 you buy access in blocks, there are three types of block each block has both a data ammount limit (500MB/1GB/3GB)and a time limit (1 day/1week/1motnh). One annoyance is that these blocks can only be bought with a credit/debit card.

      IIRC one of the other networks had a long expiry pay as you go mobile broadband package but the price per unit traffic is much higher.

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  5. Power cord by Jojoba86 · · Score: 1

    If you have a small enough laptop bring it. No need for a new power cord, just get a plug adapter, unless your power brick really won't handle 240 V (most modern ones do).

    1. Re:Power cord by jimicus · · Score: 2, Funny

      If you have a small enough laptop bring it. No need for a new power cord, just get a plug adapter, unless your power brick really won't handle 240 V (most modern ones do).

      Some US companies are selling power bricks that don't handle 240V.

      (We had a US colleague blow up four on the trot that way. I think he was let go shortly after that...)

    2. Re:Power cord by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      If you have a small enough laptop bring it. No need for a new power cord, just get a plug adapter, unless your power brick really won't handle 240 V (most modern ones do).

      Unless there's a US thing to restrict voltage, I can't even remember when I last had a gadget that wasn't rated for 110-240 V here in Europe (since I travel quite a bit I regularly check). And I'd be very surprised if any maker bothered to order two series of power converters.

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  6. asdf by Bromskloss · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know that I would have to change the region code on my wireless amongst other things

    What you say? I have never heard about it. Is that ordinary wireless LAN you are talking about or UMTS or something?

    I plan on hitting the British Museum

    Uh, I'll notify the police.

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    1. Re:asdf by Sockatume · · Score: 2, Informative

      UMTS doesn't have such a thing as a "region code", anyway: either you've got the hardware to talk on rest-of-the-world radio frequencies, or you don't. Wi-fi is the same everywhere.

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    2. Re:asdf by Amarantine · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, there is such a thing. Every country can decide what channels are allowed to use. Not every frequency/channel is allowed for free use in every country in the world. Cisco accesspoints, for example, have a configuration parameter to specify the country it is used in, so it won't use channels it isn't allowed to use. Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels.

    3. Re:asdf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he's talking about the Wifi regional settings, which sort of restricts the power output and channels based on the regions, in order to obey the spectrum licensing regulations.

      Guess what. Nobody cares, if it works, surf away. Too many iPhones drowning everyone into radiation anyway.

    4. Re:asdf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meh, two fewer channels. It's never ever been a problem for me in Tschermanie with my US Lenovo laptops.

    5. Re:asdf by drb_chimaera · · Score: 1

      From what I recall the legal channels for wireless differ between the US and the UK. In the US (I think) channels 1-13 are legally available, while in the UK it's only 1-11. TBH I wouldn't bother changing anything especially as the routers OP will be connecting to will only be broadcasting in the legal range anyway :)

    6. Re:asdf by drb_chimaera · · Score: 1

      Crap, other way round - we have slightly more channels open than you do, so you'd only really need to worry about it if you need to connect on something broadcasting on 12 or 13.

    7. Re:asdf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your local area has a lot of wifi going on you can set it to Japan and get some extra channels to play with

    8. Re:asdf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes but since he is american his wifi will be already set to allow channels 1-11. Europe uses 1-13, so he is not going to transmit on a frequency which is not allowed. Sure he might miss out on a few APs because he cant pick up channels 12-13, but he doesnt have to change his wifi settings

      Also, since when do people care and respect these rules? I always set my settings to Japan to get as many channels as possible.

    9. Re:asdf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but the laptop will only use the channel in use by the access point, so there should be no need to reconfigure the laptop.

    10. Re:asdf by 42sd · · Score: 1

      This was the first thing in a while on the internet to blow my mind. Thanks for the explanation.. my wikipediaing/googling failed.

    11. Re:asdf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Since 2003 all wireless adapters in PCs have complied with 802.11d "world mode". this means the "region code" is put into the wireless access point. control over localized transmit power and channels is enforced by the AP. you are not allowed to bring a US access point to Europe or vice versa. However your US laptop adapter will automatically assume the rules offered by any foreign access point you may encounter in a hotspot.

      So unless you are doing ad-hoc wifi, you do not need to anything to set your region code.

    12. Re:asdf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course with the UK channels being a superset of the US ones you probably wouldn't even notice if you didn't change it. From experience very few people use 12/13 here.

    13. Re:asdf by ChartBoy · · Score: 1

      Yes, but this isn't an issue for the his laptop unless he's planning to exploit unfinished Windows 7 hotspot features.

  7. For starters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't call it 'merry old England'.

    1. Re:For starters... by Harold+Halloway · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...and don't ask whether or not we have 'internet kiosks'. It's not the bloody Middle Ages here.

    2. Re:For starters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you SEEN the fucking things they call internet kiosks here?

    3. Re:For starters... by Fotograf · · Score: 1

      yea. internet kiosks are so 90ties. We actually have internet at home now

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    4. Re:For starters... by IrquiM · · Score: 1

      Not forgetting that many hotels have internet connection for guests, which is a lot cheaper than kiosks or even free. That way you can use the day in town, and the evening to update the facebook status.

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    5. Re:For starters... by GuerillaRadio · · Score: 1

      Indeed, don't forget libraries too! Libraries.

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    6. Re:For starters... by mike2R · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't call it 'merry old England'.

      Also, the word 'quaint' may not be taken in the complementary way you think it will..

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    7. Re:For starters... by quenda · · Score: 1

      Don't call it 'merry old England'.

      And don't say "Great" Britain. The country is Britain (short for UK of GB & NI).
      GB is a geographical term referring to the largest (greatest) of the British isles.
      It is so cringe-worthy to hear politicians like GWB stressing "Great" as if it were a compliment.

    8. Re:For starters... by Endophage · · Score: 1

      We even have free internet in Starbucks, and yes my dear Americans we have Starbucks in the UK (and I'd note that you don't get free Wifi there in the US). Why do Americans think the UK is so backward, we have faster broadband, cheaper mobile phone contracts even at a $2 to £1 exchange (that give more minutes, texts, data transfer) and those are just the first things to spring to mind. I spend a lot of time in both countries and in the middle of Silicon Valley I find it harder to stay connected than anywhere short of the middle of a field in the UK.

    9. Re:For starters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll promise to not ask where the knights are if you promise not to ask where the cowboys are if you ever visit Texas, ok?

    10. Re:For starters... by slim · · Score: 1

      And don't say "Great" Britain. The country is Britain (short for UK of GB & NI).
      GB is a geographical term referring to the largest (greatest) of the British isles.

      This is subtly wrong.

      The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is made up of four countries: England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales.
      Great Britain encompasses England, Scotland and Wales
      "Britain" is usually just short for "Great Britain"... ... although in Roman times, "Brittannia" was a Roman province on the island, south of Hadrian's Wall. In this sense 'Great Britain' is to 'Brittannia' as 'Greater London' is to 'London'.
      And for good measure, "The British Isles" includes Ireland.

      So ignoring smaller islands:
        - UK = England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales
        - Great Britain = England, Scotland, Wales
        - British Isles = England, Northern Ireland, Ireland, Scotland, Wales

      Nobody will mind you saying you're visiting Great Britain, as long as you actually are doing so.

    11. Re:For starters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and don't ask whether or not we have 'internet kiosks'. It's not the bloody Middle Ages here.

      Apparently it is here in the US, because I've never seen them.

    12. Re:For starters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a dork.
      A gang of chavs is going to take one look at his white socks and sandals, and kick the shit out him.

    13. Re:For starters... by iank · · Score: 1

      I thought the same, then reminded myself of the transport system here.

    14. Re:For starters... by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      Simply because you have the technology to support internet kiosks, doesn't mean your economy supports it. People in London may think internet kiosks are a bloody stupid idea and so they don't use them and so they go out of business.

    15. Re:For starters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      are you telling me that you don't live in castles?

    16. Re:For starters... by THotze · · Score: 1

      Wait, did you mean that you don't have Internet kiosks anymore since it's not the Middle Ages and everyone is walking around with a WiFi or WWAN laptop?

      Or that you DO have Internet kiosks because you have the Internet? I am now entirely confused.

    17. Re:For starters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not an unreasonable question for someone who's never been to the UK before. Public internet access isn't a given in the US. In Chicago, for example, there aren't any internet cafes in the downtown area. Some coffeeshops and the public library provide wifi but you'll need to bring your own laptop or a library card to use the public computers. If you don't have either of those, you're SOL.

    18. Re:For starters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's not too many internet kiosks in the US. I'm sure they exist but I haven't seen one since 1995. It’s a cultural difference. Kiosks are public and hence too socialist for us ‘Mericans. We want personal everything. If we share stuff we risk running efficiently. Can you imagine the slippery slope that would unfold if we had places where the public could pay to use internet. Pretty soon people would want busses, subways, and trams! The whole country would go to hell!

    19. Re:For starters... by Harold+Halloway · · Score: 1

      I thought you had to visit Montana if you wanted cowboys?

    20. Re:For starters... by Harold+Halloway · · Score: 1

      Well clearly I do, as do many of my friends, but not everyone does. Someone's got to harvest the pig shit.

    21. Re:For starters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't call it 'merry old England'.

      Would you prefer 'gay old England'?

    22. Re:For starters... by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Actually, most cities in the US don't have Internet kiosks anymore (except in the airports), because public wifi is becoming so ubiquitous. And Internet cafes are becoming very rare. It's not by any stretch a dumb question, don't be so defensive.

      How about this... if he had asked about phone booths, would you get angry because you assume he's implying that the UK has no phones?

    23. Re:For starters... by Homburg · · Score: 1

      Remember, though, he's coming from the US. The Tube is like some sci-fi utopia compared to public transport in most of the US.

    24. Re:For starters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't call it 'merry old England'.

      That's right, it is actually 'Merrie Olde Englande', forsooth.

    25. Re:For starters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well certainly, how else will we power those internet kiosks.

    26. Re:For starters... by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      ...and don't ask whether or not we have 'internet kiosks'. It's not the bloody Middle Ages here.

      If you still have 'internet kiosks', that's the Internet equivalent of the Middle Ages. We in the modern era call it '3G'. Wireless. Look into it. :)

    27. Re:For starters... by ahabswhale · · Score: 1

      Actually it's a fair question because you don't generally find internet kiosks in the US (or internet cafes for that matter). It's just assumed that anyone who cares about internet, has it. What you do find is widespread wifi access.

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    28. Re:For starters... by xaxa · · Score: 1

      The "great" in Great Britian is to distinguish it from the other Britian -- known as Brittany (part of France).

  8. Remember... by DiamondGeezer · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...speak to people LOUDLY and ask them if England is anywhere near London because they're all deaf and stupid just like you see on American TV. Tell everyone you meet how everything is bigger in the States and how proud you are to be a Republican. You get to win a prize if you can piss more than 25 feet from Landseer's lions in Trafalgar Square - its a well known custom.

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    1. Re:Remember... by underqualified · · Score: 3, Funny

      or better yet, ask them what language they're speaking

    2. Re:Remember... by dintech · · Score: 4, Funny

      Also, if you make it up north to Edinburgh, "Scotland is my favourite part of England" will ensure you some new-found friends.

    3. Re:Remember... by rosbif · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't forget, you can always get a passing ragged urchin (you'll recognise them from the bow legs due to rickets and the sooty covering from sweeping chiminees) to take your message to the nearest telegraph office for a farthing.
      One other thing - you must never mention the name Dick Van Dyke in London, otherwise you'll be hounded by a baying mob with pitchforks and faming torches

    4. Re:Remember... by Nomen+Publicus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Always ask any kilt wearing Scotsmen you see, "Is anything worn under the kilt?" Laughing, they will give the classic replay, "No, It's all in perfect working order." Remember to shout across the Whispering Gallery in St Paul's Cathedral. The name is historical and fools many tourists into missing the exciting results.

    5. Re:Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Intended as a joke, but if you have the time, I'd thoroughly recommend doing this. (The visiting Edinburgh part, not acting the stereotypical moronic american tourist.) Edinburgh is a facinating city. AC to preserve moderating interesting suggestions.

    6. Re:Remember... by Sockatume · · Score: 3, Funny

      Speaking of Edinburgh, if you hear a loud bang at 1pm, start running. Keep running. Never stop. That's the official signal that dragons have, in fact, been seen approaching the city, starving for human flesh.

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    7. Re:Remember... by LizardKing · · Score: 1

      I can strongly recommend saying you're a Canadian rather than US citizen. Particularly outside London, American tourists are utterly detested for their rude and pushy behaviour.

    8. Re:Remember... by wisty · · Score: 1

      Also remember, those soldiers in red with the puffy black hats CANNOT move, no-matter WHAT you do to them: http://v.ku6.com/show/opIpbqF6CtgyQaDW.html

    9. Re:Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      If you like Doritos or Frito Lays, don't forget to order a big bag of chips in the pub.

    10. Re:Remember... by slim · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I can strongly recommend saying you're a Canadian rather than US citizen. Particularly outside London, American tourists are utterly detested for their rude and pushy behaviour.

      Nah. Just don't behave rudely, and people will know you're one of the decent Americans.

    11. Re:Remember... by xtracto · · Score: 1

      Oh oh oh!

      And also tell them how easy is it to fix your teeth in the USA...

      And tell them how sucky their health care is... so much that if Stephen Hawking lived in the UK, he would be dead!

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    12. Re:Remember... by LizardKing · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Whether the rudeness reputation is deserved or not, it really has given all US tourists a bad name, and it's one that is going to be hard to get rid of. Part of the problem is how insular many people from the US are - it's a big country, with a big population and a lot going on. As a result, most Americans knowledge of the world beyond the US is gleaned from occasional news stories about generally negative events, or Hollywood/TV stereotypes. Take the foot and mouth outbreak in the UK from a few years back. My company had US colleagues refusing to come to the UK because they thought they were going to die from some strange disease, a bizarre notion that they got from the narrow view of events provided by US media.

    13. Re:Remember... by TheRealDamion · · Score: 1

      Spend hundreds of dollars hiring a car to drive 3+hours to see Stone Henge!

    14. Re:Remember... by slim · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Whether the rudeness reputation is deserved or not, it really has given all US tourists a bad name, and it's one that is going to be hard to get rid of.

      This is entirely true, yet I think most British people quite easily distinguish between the archetypal crass American tourist (Hawaiian shirt, loud voice, rude) and a quiet, respectful person stood in front of them speaking with an American accent.

      Similarly, see the racists who are OK with the black people they've met. "Oh yeah, *he*'s OK. It's just the rest of 'em I can't stand."

    15. Re:Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      The best reply to that question I've ever heard was "Aye, yer mother's lipstick!"
      ;-)

    16. Re:Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, if you're scientifically inclined, the whispering gallery is worth a look. Take a friend, stand on opposite sides and see how loud you need to be to be heard - it's not much. The gallery is constructed so that sound waves reinforce each other as they travel around the gallery, so they don't decay or scatter as much as they would elsewhere, hence you can communicate further than you would expect with only a whisper.

    17. Re:Remember... by gbjbaanb · · Score: 5, Funny

      oh oh oh! I know this one... (but a little dated)

      Advice for tourists

      The Brits have peculiar words for many things. Money is referred to as "goolies" in slang, so you should for instance say "I'd love to come to the pub but I haven't got any goolies." "Quid" is the modern word for what was once called a "shilling" - the equivalent of seventeen cents American.

      If you are fond of someone, you should tell him he is a "great tosser" - he will be touched. The English are a notoriously tactile, demonstrative people, and if you want to fit in you should hold hands with your acquaintances and tossers when you walk down the street.

      Habits
      Ever since their Tory government wholeheartedly embraced full union with Europe, the Brits have been attempting to adopt certain continental customs, such as the large midday meal followed by a two or three hour siesta, which they call a "wank." As this is still a fairly new practice in Britain, it is not uncommon for people to oversleep (alarm clocks, alas, do not work there due to the magnetic pull from Greenwich). If you are late for supper, simply apologise and explain that you were having a wank - everyone will understand and forgive you.

      Universities
      University archives and manuscript collections are still governed by quaint mediaeval rules retained out of respect for tradition; hence patrons are expected to bring to the reading rooms their own ink-pots and a small knife for sharpening their quills. Observing these customs will signal to the librarians that you are "in the know"- one of the inner circles, as it were, for the rules are unwritten and not posted anywhere in the library. Likewise, it is customary to kiss the librarian on both cheeks when he/she brings a manuscript you've requested, a practice dating back to the reign of Henry VI.

      One of the most delightful ways to spend an afternoon in Oxford or Cambridge is gliding gently down the river in one of their flat-bottomed boats, which you propel using a long pole. This is known as "cottaging". Many of the boats (called "yer-i-nals") are privately owned by the colleges, but there are some places that rent them to the public by the hour. Just tell a professor or policeman that you are interested in doing some cottaging and would like to know where the public yerinals are. The poles must be treated with vegetable oil to protect them from the water, so it's a good idea to buy a can of Mazola and have it on you when you ask directions to the yerinals. That way people will know you are an experienced cottager.

      Food
      British cuisine enjoys a well deserved reputation as the most sublime gastronomic pleasure available to man. Thanks to today's robust dollar, the American traveller can easily afford to dine out several times a week (rest assured that a British meal is worth interrupting your afternoon wank for).

      Few foreigners are aware that there are several grades of meat in the UK. The best cuts of meat, like the best bottles of gin, bear Her Majesty's seal, called the British Stamp of Excellence (BSE). When you go to a fine restaurant, tell your waiter you want BSE beef and won't settle for anything less. If he balks at your request, custom dictates that you jerk your head imperiously back and forth while rolling your eyes to show him who is boss. Once the waiter realizes you are a person of discriminating taste, he may offer to let you peruse the restaurant's list of exquisite British wines. If he does not, you should order one anyway. The best wine grapes grow on the steep, chalky hillsides of Yorkshire and East Anglia-try an Ely '84 or Ripon '88 for a rare treat indeed. When the bill for your meal comes it will show a suggested amount. Pay whatever you think is fair, unless you plan to dine there again, in which case you should simply walk out; the restaurant host will understand that he should run a tab for you.

      Transportation
      Public taxis are subsidized by the Her Majesty's Government. A taxi ride in London

    18. Re:Remember... by Wizard+Drongo · · Score: 1

      Not quite true If you pose a threat to their person they are allowed to defend themselves, and if you pose a threat to the place they're guarding they will attack you. The uniforms are ceremonial. The assault-rifles aren't.

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    19. Re:Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah. Just don't behave rudely, and people will know you're one of the decent Americans.

      They'll be able to tell you're one of the decent Americans by the fact that you're riding a unicorn and have your pet Leprechaun at your side.

    20. Re:Remember... by ubercam · · Score: 1

      Not really following the funny thread, but this reminded me.. Near Trafalgar there's a decent pizza joint called Fire & Stone. They have lots of different kinds of pizzas. It's fairly cheap (for London) and tastes good, so if you're in the area and hungry, check it out.

      Also, don't go everywhere by tube, you won't see anything. Take the bus sometimes, or even walk. We walked from the Winston Churchill bunker (near Buckingham Palace, neat place) to the Imperial War Museum. It took about an hour though, but we got to see a fair bit.

      Also if you can skate, you might want to show the Brits how to do it. They're by and large pathetic at it. Last December they had a few outdoor skating rinks set up for people, so they will probably have them again this year. I don't remember where exactly, but if you asked around I'm sure they're not hard to find.

    21. Re:Remember... by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      Having a great grandmother and great grandfather from Britain, I can tell you now there are many people who claim to speak English within Britain and yet certainly speak nothing remotely resembling what the rest of the world (and certain parts of Britain) call English.

    22. Re:Remember... by alecwood · · Score: 1

      Old it might be, but it's still hilarious

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    23. Re:Remember... by digitig · · Score: 1

      Seconded.Most Brits would find it harder to tell a Canadian accent from a US accent than they would telling some US accents apart. By the time they find out you're American they'll have already decided whether they like you or not.

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    24. Re:Remember... by nomadic · · Score: 1

      speak to people LOUDLY and ask them if England is anywhere near London because they're all deaf and stupid just like you see on American TV.

      Yes, all those American sitcoms about...stupid deaf British people? Am I missing something here?

    25. Re:Remember... by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

      That's a load of crap. I'm an American and am not embarassed to let someone know if they ask. I've traveled to Europe, Asia and S. America and have NEVER been snuffed at because of my nationality.

      Are there asshole Americans that travel, yes. But typically the type of person who would even bother travelling abroad is going to most likely be a much more open minded individual.

      I always hear about how people hate American tourists.. well I have always been treated with respect wherever I have gone.

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    26. Re:Remember... by evilkasper · · Score: 1

      Whatever you do do not touch them.

    27. Re:Remember... by Serious+Callers+Only · · Score: 1

      Nah. Just don't behave rudely, and people will know you're one of the decent Americans.

      Heartily agree. The only way to change such a reputation is to behave politely and reasonably when abroad, not trying to hide your nationality, and usually you'll be treated well as a result. Otherwise ignorant people who think that all Americans are stupid/loud/insert your stereotype here will never be disabused of their prejudices.

    28. Re:Remember... by tonyreadsnews · · Score: 1
      I think the reverse also holds as I've had to correct a number of European friends about various items over the years. One was even afraid to come over here because she thought she'd get sued as soon as she stepped off the plane.

      it's a big country, with a big population and a lot going on. As a result, most non-Americans knowledge of the US is gleaned from occasional news stories about generally negative events, or Hollywood/TV stereotypes.

    29. Re:Remember... by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Also remember to follow that up by asking for a Glesga kiss - I guarantee it'll really endear you to them.

    30. Re:Remember... by LizardKing · · Score: 1

      I've traveled to Europe, Asia and S. America and have NEVER been snuffed at because of my nationality.

      You've obviously not been to France then.

    31. Re:Remember... by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Whether the rudeness reputation is deserved or not, it really has given all US tourists a bad name, and it's one that is going to be hard to get rid of. Part of the problem is how insular many people from the US are - it's a big country, with a big population and a lot going on.

      A few years ago, I was on vacation (somewhere tropical) and met up with some German tourists, who were exceptionally polite and spoke good English.

      They asked where I was from, and I said Seattle, in the US. They then asked me, seriously, "oh, we have a brother in Dallas, do you know him?" I had to explain exactly how far apart Seattle and Dallas were, that I've never been to Dallas and that, in fact, I've actually never been east of Las Vegas. Just thought it was funny-- Americans have a reputation for bad geography, but I think the problem might be more universal than we like to think.

    32. Re:Remember... by Patik · · Score: 1

      That's simply untrue. Perhaps it was once the case (I doubt it), but it certainly isn't now. I've been all around Europe (though admittedly not to England in particular) and I've never had any problems telling people that I am American. It's your attitude that they will judge you by, not your nationality. I've always been welcomed with open arms. Putting a Canadian flag on your backpack is not only unnecessary but disingenuous.

    33. Re:Remember... by Patik · · Score: 1

      Furthermore, Europeans completely understand that a government often does not represent its people. They may hate Bush, but they won't hold that against you, just as they would hope you wouldn't treat an Englishman poorly because you don't like the Prime Minister.

    34. Re:Remember... by Doches · · Score: 1

      Hooray. Just...hooray. Next time I'm in New Town early in the afternoon I'm going to think of this and snort Tennet's out my nose. Thanks, mate.

    35. Re:Remember... by oldhack · · Score: 1

      That's mostly issues with some continentals (French, Belgium, Germans, etc.), but not so much with the Brits, in my not-so-extensive experiences. Besides, Americans can be loud, but we are not pushy generally. God knows our reputation has nothing on that of British tourists.

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    36. Re:Remember... by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      > They then asked me, seriously, "oh, we have a brother in Dallas, do you know him?"

      Odds are that they were repeating an oft repeated joke. The correct response is to keep a straight face, roll with it and give a dead pan response, such as "Yes, but we quit talking to him after he was convicted of arson last year".

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    37. Re:Remember... by SoTerrified · · Score: 1

      Great. So now when us real Canadians visit, we'll be utterly detested for our "rude and pushy behaviour"

      Reminds me of when I visited Brazil. At one stop the front desk said "There are several Canadians staying at the hotel". After several months away from home, I was quite excited to have someone from home to talk to. I easily spotted them in the hotel restaurant with their prominent maple leafs and... They were speaking in a distinct Texas twang. I did introduce myself but I was so disappointed. I was even more disappointed when, a few minutes later, they were yelling at their server for some perceived mistake.

      I made sure to let the hotel staff know they were not Canadian. The front desk manager just winked and said something like "After we met you, and then we met them, we knew they were American".

    38. Re:Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      | I can strongly recommend saying you're a Canadian rather than US citizen. Particularly outside
      | London, American tourists are utterly detested for their rude and pushy behaviour.

      i find it pretty rude that some americans would call themselves canadians because they're afraid people wont like them if they declare the truth about their nationality -- and in turn, give us canadians a worser reputation for doing so -- phoo on u that do this. :-P

    39. Re:Remember... by aslate · · Score: 1

      The 2 classic locations I can think of are:

      Natural History Museum, nearest tube South Kensington.

      Somerset House, nearest tube Temple.

    40. Re:Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Robust dollar? I was in London this summer, when the dollar was much stronger. Even then, all the meals were twice as much as you would expect to pay in the USA. Aside from Tokoyo, London is the most expensive city in the world.

    41. Re:Remember... by VJ42 · · Score: 1

      Americans have a reputation for bad geography, but I think the problem might be more universal than we like to think.

      It's not so much a geography thing as a scale thing for us over here in Europe, America is huge, most Europian nations are smaller than many US States. Here in the UK, you can travel just about anywhere in under a day. It takes a lot of thought to get your head round a continent spanning country that covers three or four time zones. Hell, most of Western Europe put together is covered in just one; the UK, Ireland and Portugal decided to have a second, IIRC the third only kicks in when you get to the former soviet countries...

      In short, asking if you know a random person from the same country isn't strange here, as family and friends get scattered throughout the same country in the same way I suppose that they would scatter through a US State. The old saying puts it best, "Americans think a hundred years is a long time, Brits [in this case Europeans] think a hundred miles is a long way.

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    42. Re:Remember... by Ogive17 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I spent 2 days in Paris. The "worst" thing that has happened to me in a foreign country was when I was in Tokyo and older Japanese would refuse to sit next to me on the subway... the last open seat on the train was always the one right next to me.

      The worst thing a tourist can do is demand someone speak their native tongue. I have witnessed others do this and can see how someone might think it was arrogance... I know whenever I travel I try to learn a few basic phrases in the local language.. and ALWAYS know how to ask someone if they can speak English in their native language. I can ask that in 7 languages!

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    43. Re:Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. The English are on a hair trigger for rudeness, and many Americanisms seem crass. Be gentle. ( I'm English, you guys seem to have avoided the painful introspection part of existence ? )

      Pro tips.

      - Get the train(stanstead) or tube(heathrow) to central London, taxis at these airports are about the most expensive in the country.

      - Get an Oyster card as soon as you get to central London, they're an RFID plastic card used for transport, they're £3 and you top up cash via machines. Oyster journeys are generally about half the price of cash, and a load of services are Oyster only. You can get them in any station and a load of corner shops. They have a day maximum so after about £5 they stop charging you. Beep once on busses as you get on, once in and once out for trains. You need a different ticket for journeys outside the london zones. ( You should get a map with your oyster. )

      - There's an unofficial stand-to-one-side rule on escalators, particularly in the underground. If you stand across the whole thing, people will hit you in the back of the legs, mutter and generally be unpleasant. Watch others, stand at the same side as they do.

      - Tip when you sit somewhere to buy food, 10-15%. It's often included on the bill. Apart from that tip your hairdresser, and cab drivers a little if they were good / nice.

      - The London Eye requires booking in advance, but really does give you the best view of London and is great for working out where everything fits.

      - A lot of the museums are free, and are located close to one another. I've not seen the V&A mentioned here, is good.

      Have fun, there are a lot of cultures here, try some of them all.

    44. Re:Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In most of Europe and particularly in Amsterdam, English tourists are known for their rude, drunken, ignorant loud behavior, much more so than Americans.

    45. Re:Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's perfectly reasonable to not like a particular culture for their stereotypical habits and proclivities. Is it bad for me to expect to not like a black person because I generally disagree with their taste in music, chicken, and pant size selection?

    46. Re:Remember... by dlanod · · Score: 1

      My wife and I were grabbing lunch in a cafe in Edinburgh Castle right next to the cannon, blissfully unaware of both the time and the custom. That bang scared the crap out of us until we saw the (literally) smoking gun through the cafe's windows. Next time I'll remember to keep an eye out for dragons.

    47. Re:Remember... by larien · · Score: 1
      When coming to Edinburgh:
      • do not ask "what time does the 1 O'clock gun go off?"
      • while you're at it, don't ask where the cannon ball lands.
      • please refrain from comments like "gee, isn't it great they built the castle so close to the train station?"

      I'd like to say these kind of things are made up, but no.

    48. Re:Remember... by dyshexic · · Score: 1

      if you don't understand why this is funny here is a cheat sheet to what is actually being said goolies = genitals quid = a pound = heavy gold coin a tosser = a wanker = a jerk wanking = masturbation cottaging = public sex in toilets/urinals taxi aren't subsidised buses follow set routes shin fein (prov. IRA) is now part of the northern ireland goverment which rather dates these suggestions

    49. Re:Remember... by Lunzo · · Score: 1

      The parent post is full of lies. Do you really think Americans are so credulous that they'd believe your phony translations?

    50. Re:Remember... by revclyde · · Score: 1

      I can strongly recommend saying you're a Canadian rather than US citizen. Particularly outside London, American tourists are utterly detested for their rude and pushy behaviour.

      Nah. Just don't behave rudely, and people will know you're one of the decent Americans.

      Actually, Americans are usually spotted immediately (even when wearing Canadian Flags, albeit upside down, on their backpacks). British customs administers a test on arrival, and if you can't spell "valour" and "honour" like a Canadian, they force you to tell everyone you're Hungarian. Bouncy, bouncy.

    51. Re:Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. I've travelled quite a bit around Europe in the past years, and the only pushy and rude Americans I have encountered are the ones complaining about people not liking Americans. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy really. (and for the record, with very few exceptions, all the travelling Americans I've encountered have been very nice, non-rude people, but then I stay in hostels, which tend to have more a more backpacker oriented crowd, not the average over-the-weekend travelers)

    52. Re:Remember... by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      no, I think they'd also be amused by the joke.
      It has a good pedigree, following from Monty Python's Hungarian phrasebook joke.

    53. Re:Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can also ask why all the Scots hate Lothian and move to England.

    54. Re:Remember... by cybernanga · · Score: 1

      You are free to dislike a culture for whatever reason you choose, but don't apply it to individuals.

      Yes, It IS bad for you to expect that I like certain type of music, enjoy chicken and a select a particular underwear size, based solely on the colour of my skin.

      At least have the decency to meet me first, and then decide that you don't like me.

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    55. Re:Remember... by machinder · · Score: 1

      I work near Oxford Circus, and don't find Americans worse than any other tourist here. Actually, I think the worst are the English who are in town now for their Christmas shopping. I was, however, asked when the show starts at the circus once by a nice middle-aged American lady who was appropriately embarrassed once I explained what the circus was.

    56. Re:Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can strongly recommend saying you're a Canadian rather than US citizen

      Bear in mind that there are actual Canadians living in, and even just visiting, the UK and they will not take kindly to this.

      In fact, most people in the UK (or indeed in most of Western Europe) will -- upon discovering that you have been pretending to be Canadian instead of American -- at the very least think you are personally more loathsome than George W Bush.

      It is unlikely that you can pretend to be Canadian for any duration longer than the most superficial interaction, and possibly not even then. Tourists are very commonly asked where in {country} you are from, what you do there, what they should see if they visit. Given the popularity of Canada as a tourist destination for people from the UK it is not improbable that the local may know more about Canada than you do!

      So by all means if you want to be considered an insecure lying poser, say that you are a Canadian. Practically guaranteed to win you prizes ranging from admiring glares and congratulatory fists to the mouth.

      American tourists are utterly detested for their rude and pushy behaviour

      If you are rude and pushy it does not matter if you are Canadian or American.

      Pretending to be Canadian if you are not one is detestable.

      Urging possibly-rude, possibly-pushy, definitely-American tourists to pretend to be Canadians does no favours for actual Canadian tourists.

      For shame!

  9. Internet kiosks? by GuerillaRadio · · Score: 5, Funny

    Would I be better off not bringing my laptop and just using Internet kiosks (do they exist in London?)

    What are these kiosks of the inter-net you speak of?
    Why, here in blighty the modern mode of communication is the telegraph, which we run using steam, dontyouknow!

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    1. Re:Internet kiosks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol...
      Nah, seriously, there are some places like that.

      Ah, btw, find yourself some time to cross to Ireland and enjoy a good pint of Guinness.

      PS: I know that there are internet kiosks in Dublin :D

    2. Re:Internet kiosks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Ah, btw, find yourself some time to cross to Ireland and enjoy a good pint of Guinness"

      Not that Ireland isn't worth visiting but you can get Guinness in London, (chilled or room temperature are usually both on tap so state yer preference up front).

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    3. Re:Internet kiosks? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      chilled or room temperature are usually both on tap

      Is there a difference?

    4. Re:Internet kiosks? by AVryhof · · Score: 1

      I dunno.... the Internet Kiosk question is pretty valid. I know of maybe a half-dozen (terminal, not locations) that exist in the City I live in here in the U.S. ... or it could just be that my city sucks.

      Either way having your own Notebook or Netbook is better than touching the grimy disgusting keyboards on an internet kiosk.

    5. Re:Internet kiosks? by AVryhof · · Score: 1

      I've noticed that for the older styled beers, room temperature is the best way to go.

      For American "super-brews" (Budweiser, etc) they have to be ice cold so they numb your taste buds and just flow down your throat....otherwise they're pretty disgusting.

    6. Re:Internet kiosks? by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      One's colder than the other, even taking into account England's notoriously unreliable weather.

      In all seriousness though, they do taste quite different.

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    7. Re:Internet kiosks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you're obviously taking the piss are even the most imbecilic American must know that the WWW means the world and the world is just not AMERICA

    8. Re:Internet kiosks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While that is funny, I think perhaps he was suggesting that, as in the United States, the "Internet Kiosk" has gone away, since there's no market anymore for them as everyone has their own computer.

    9. Re:Internet kiosks? by jc79 · · Score: 1

      Nicer than Guinness is Porterhouse Oyster Stout, served in the Porterhouse pub in Covent Garden.
      Samuel Smith's stout is nice too. You can get it in the John Snow pub near Covent Garden, which stands near the site of the Broad street pump which was the source of a cholera outbreak. John Snow traced the outbreak to the pump and had the handle removed, inventing epidemiology in the process. http://www.fancyapint.com/ and http://www.beerintheevening.com/ are good for finding pleasant watering holes.

  10. You might not have to do much to your wireless by thecross · · Score: 0

    Channels 1 through 11 are here in the States, but Europe gets 1-11 plus 12 and 13, Japan gets 1-13 plus 14. If you don't change the drivers at all you will still be able to use 1 through 11.

  11. When crossing the road by MichaelSmith · · Score: 5, Informative

    LOOK TO THE RIGHT

    Because everybody in north America drives on the wrong side of the road, you just don't know it yet.

    I live in Australia (where we drive on the left) and I once had to work in South Korea where they drive on the right. I was okay as long as I thought about it every time I crossed the road. It was a mistake to talk on the phone to my wife back home while walking back to the hotel from the pizza shop.

    1. Re:When crossing the road by AGMW · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Er ... scrub that!

      Look BOTH WAYS EVERY TIME 'cos we do have a few one way streets in Ye Olde Londone

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    2. Re:When crossing the road by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think, my antipodean compadre, you will find that the _majority_ of the world drives on the right side of the road (the double meaning is intentional). I'm from Britain and infinitely prefer driving on thr right, it feels more natural and safer to me.

    3. Re:When crossing the road by Tolaris · · Score: 3, Informative

      Most London streets have "look left" and "look right" painted on the road at the crossings.

    4. Re:When crossing the road by MichaelSmith · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes. In Sydney too. Here in Melbourne we prefer our tourists to learn the hard way.

    5. Re:When crossing the road by TobascoKid · · Score: 1

      Not most - you only see that in the more touristy bits of town.

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    6. Re:When crossing the road by armyofone · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Most London streets have "look left" and "look right" painted on the road at the crossings."

      Well yeah, but it's a foreign country so he might have trouble reading the signs.

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    7. Re:When crossing the road by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 1

      Actually, people in the UK drive on the wrong side of the road. Most of the world drives on the right side of the road.

    8. Re:When crossing the road by zdzichu · · Score: 1

      At least in London there are very helpful (and crucial for surviving) paintings on crossings. They literally state "look right" or "look left".

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    9. Re:When crossing the road by hairyfish · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, the right side is the wrong side. Back in the day is was custom to ride your horse on the left, as most people are right handed and this allowed easy access to you sword should you encounter any nasty highway-men on your travels. During the French revolution, the socialists decided that riding left was a sign of imperialist bourgeoisie so decided that riding on the right was how the new republicans (real republicans - not the phoney US kind) would do it. So since then it evolved that the English her imperial colonies rode, then drove on the left, and French republican colonies rode, then drove, on the right.

    10. Re:When crossing the road by WaroDaBeast · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, you have to look both ways. It doesn't matter what side of the road people drive on; you just have to look towards immediate potential danger first.

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    11. Re:When crossing the road by qc_dk · · Score: 1

      You even have a few roads where you drive on the right. Because if anything is worth doing it's worth doing sillily as long as it's tradition.

    12. Re:When crossing the road by MrMr · · Score: 5, Funny

      I fully agree, I spent last weekend practising driving on the left and you wouldn't believe how many idiots were trying to run in to me.

    13. Re:When crossing the road by noidentity · · Score: 1

      I don't know about you, but when I cross a road, I look left and right, regardless of what country I'm in.

    14. Re:When crossing the road by mike2R · · Score: 1

      There is no right side of the road to drive on. Your choices are left or wrong.

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    15. Re:When crossing the road by xtracto · · Score: 1

      No shit, I was almost hit by a double decker bus (Arriva) while crossing in the middle of the street at Liverpool.

      I saw nothing coming... looking at the wrong side =oP

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    16. Re:When crossing the road by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      No, no, no.

      The right side to drive is the right side. The left side is not the right side. It's not called "right side" just because! Right is right. Left is not right. Ergo left is wrong.

    17. Re:When crossing the road by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Are you left handed? The whole point of traveling on the left was to keep your sword arm on the side of oncoming traffic, and was the way everyone did it until Napoleon's time. He made it law throughout the french empire in europe that people travel on the right hand side, just to be different from the brits. And the USA followed suit of course seeing as they modeled their country on France.

    18. Re:When crossing the road by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      Hong Kong too. Very important with all those multi-lane one-way streets (many streets have two to four lanes of one-way traffic, or even worse: four lanes with three lanes one direction and one lane the other direction). You really can not reliably assume traffic comes from the right when you start crossing a road, and from the left when you're halfway. Without those notes you really would have to look carefully both ways, just to figure out where traffic comes from. That said me coming from a right-driving country still tends to look both ways, just to be sure.

    19. Re:When crossing the road by ThomsonsPier · · Score: 1

      I have to disregard those, as they're written at the edge of the kerb. I don't usually stare at my feet before crossing the road, so the one on the opposite side is closer to my eyeline. As I can read perfectly well upside-down when the print is that large, they appear to be telling me to look in the wrong direction (unless it's a one-way street). Bah, say I. Bah.

    20. Re:When crossing the road by kale77in · · Score: 2, Funny

      And people wonder why we lose so many tourists.

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    21. Re:When crossing the road by drachenfyre · · Score: 1

      Looking the right way is hard enough for people from the other part of the world. You guys in Melbourne decided to add those bloody J turns to the mix.

      Let me get this straight, to turn left, I pull to the right side and just stop perpendicular to the cross traffic? Then I wait for the light to turn red, at which point I turn hard left and cross the intersection.

      Brilliant!

    22. Re:When crossing the road by drachenfyre · · Score: 1

      And of course I screwed that up with right hand drive sides. It's actually to turn right I pull to the left side.....

    23. Re:When crossing the road by cycler · · Score: 0

      Also, remember to look to the LEFT when you get home.

      After a week in Southampton I got it right when I crossed a street. The trouble started again when I got home and still looked to the right when crossing.......

      /C

    24. Re:When crossing the road by agentgonzo · · Score: 1

      LOOK TO THE RIGHT

      If you stay in London, every street has a handy reminder painted on the floor just on the edge of the road to remind you. It's only if you leave London that you have to worry about that for yourself.

    25. Re:When crossing the road by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bollocks!

      We yanks drive on the RIGHT SIDE of the road.

      Literally.

    26. Re:When crossing the road by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      You were in no danger: the bus driver would have been used to the locals ignoring him. Driving in Liverpool terrifies me because the pedestrians have no sense of self-preservation.

    27. Re:When crossing the road by evilandi · · Score: 1

      Also, the handbrake for horse carts is on the outside of the vehicle. By sitting on the right, your stronger arm (right arm) is the one which operates the handbrake. The driver needs to have the best view of the road, so he needs to be as central as possible. Hence drive on the left, driver on the right.

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    28. Re:When crossing the road by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      At least in London there are very helpful (and crucial for surviving) paintings on crossings.

      They're not crucial. Whoever is stupid enough to think they only need to look one way when crossing will find themselves dead and so survival of the fittest will take place. Its only crucial for morons.

    29. Re:When crossing the road by swillden · · Score: 1

      Er ... scrub that!

      Look BOTH WAYS EVERY TIME 'cos we do have a few one way streets in Ye Olde Londone

      Yes, you should always look both ways, but that doesn't reduce the value of the advice to look right.

      When crossing the streets, most people look toward oncoming traffic in the near lane, then if there are no vehicles there they look toward oncoming traffic in the far lane. If that's clear, they then turn to look to the near lane as they begin crossing, then when they get to the centerline they turn to look the other way, so they're always looking at oncoming traffic in the lane they're crossing.

      People from countries that drive on the right side of the road glance left, glance right, then look left as the step into the street. Doing that in a country that drives on the wrong, er, left side of the road means you risk stepping in front of the vehicle that hadn't yet come around the corner when you glanced right.

      So, look both ways, but look RIGHT, not left, when stepping into the street.

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    30. Re:When crossing the road by Meneguzzi · · Score: 1

      Well, I love London and the UK having lived four years there, but technically the Brits do not drive of the right side of the road, since they drive on the left...

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    31. Re:When crossing the road by gnieboer · · Score: 1

      Yep, we knew we had officially survived the tourist phase when we did our first 'hook turn' in Melbourne instead of driving around 3 streets to avoid them.

      Once you get the hang of them, it's not so bad, but what a bizarre way to do it.

    32. Re:When crossing the road by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look down, at any crosswalk it'll tell you which way to look.

    33. Re:When crossing the road by pgn674 · · Score: 1

      Because everybody in north America drives on the wrong side of the road, you just don't know it yet.

      Actually, I think the right side of the road is the correct way. Here's why: In America at least, when walking down busy hallways, people generally walk on the right, because they drive on the right. I assume this carries over to other countries that drive on the left.

      Now, which is better, walking on the right side of the hallway, or the left side? Consider the end of the hallway, where there are double doors that are closed, but both are unlocked. Each door's hinge is, of course on the outside. If you're walking on the right, the hinge is on your right. If you're walking on the left, the hinge is on the left.

      I say, independent of whether your door swings towards you or away from you, it is better to have the hinge on the right. This is because a majority of people are right handed. If you are right handed and only allow your right hand to touch the door, it is easier to open a door away from you or towards you if the hinge is on your right.

    34. Re:When crossing the road by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Old joke (Dave Barry, I think):

      In the US, people drive on the RIGHT side of the street. But in London, it turns out that people drive on BOTH sides of the street!

    35. Re:When crossing the road by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      North Americans drive on the right side of the road.

    36. Re:When crossing the road by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because everybody in north America drives on the wrong side of the road, you just don't know it yet.

      You best get to letting the rest of Europe know that they drive on the wrong side of the road too.
      Oh and don't forget to tell the rest of the world that they're using the wrong connector for a phone jack (RJ11) when they should using a BT connector. And while you're at it maybe you should get the world to convert to the UK power plug. Sure it takes up about 4 times as much space as plugs everywhere else in the world but it's great to use an improvised weapon so you can club an intruder to death.

    37. Re:When crossing the road by crazyvas · · Score: 1

      I was okay as long as I thought about it every time I crossed the road. It was a mistake to talk on the phone to my wife back home while walking back to the hotel from the pizza shop.

      Don't leave us hanging. What happened? Did you die?

    38. Re:When crossing the road by namgge · · Score: 1

      You'll obviously be very careful crossing roads in the UK. But do not neglect to be equally careful for the first few days when when you return to the US.

      Namgge

    39. Re:When crossing the road by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      And the USA followed suit of course seeing as they modeled their country on France.

      Now why is that not Flamebait?

    40. Re:When crossing the road by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      I was okay as long as I thought about it every time I crossed the road. It was a mistake to talk on the phone to my wife back home while walking back to the hotel from the pizza shop.

      Don't leave us hanging. What happened? Did you die?

      Clearly not. I just had to dodge out of the way.

    41. Re:When crossing the road by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      But if you walk on the right and the hinge is on the right the handle will be towards the centre, ie, closer to your left hand.

      I work for a French company in Australia and newly arrived French people do tend to walk on the right in corridors.

    42. Re:When crossing the road by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      I have lived here all my life and I avoid places with hook turns, mainly because it is easier to get around by tram anyway. I have done them a few times. You have to be on the ball.

    43. Re:When crossing the road by pgn674 · · Score: 1

      But if you walk on the right and the hinge is on the right the handle will be towards the centre, ie, closer to your left hand.

      That's bad for the initial push on the door, true, but for the rest of the swing and holding the door open as you pass through, it's best to have the hinge on your strong hand side.

    44. Re:When crossing the road by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      And the USA followed suit of course seeing as they modeled their country on France.

      Now why is that not Flamebait?

      Because it's true?
      You know, "Liberty, Equality and Fraternity"
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  12. Leave the laptop at home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't risk having it confiscated or damaged by the border thugs.

    1. Re:Leave the laptop at home by XedLightParticle · · Score: 1

      How are the british rules about inspecting/confiscating electronics? Can they do like they can in US, i mean, confiscate with no reciepe nor time limit?
      Not that i believe the OP would be much happier losing it on the way home.

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  13. Bletchley Park by clap_hands · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Bletchley Park is well worth a visit for some codebreaking + early computing. ~45 minute train journey from Euston.

    http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/

    1. Re:Bletchley Park by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're an uber-geek then Bletchley definitely has to be on your list.

    2. Re:Bletchley Park by malign · · Score: 1

      Hehe, I was just about to post that.

      The early computer museum is rather ace, although lacking a few bits and pieces (lack of funding i suppose)
      Had a great time in there a few years ago, spent longer there than in the main part of bletchley park ;)

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    3. Re:Bletchley Park by Dynamoo · · Score: 1

      I was going to post that too! Bletchley Park is well worth a visit, you'll need to get the underground to Euston station. I don't think you can get more geeky a destination! It's only a 10 minute walk from the railway station at Bletchley.

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    4. Re:Bletchley Park by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, definitively go to Bletchley Park. You'll end up spending a day there with the guided tour and everything but it's quite good and geeky. :P
      I've been there myself recently.
      http://www.flickr.com/photos/ruibmartins/sets/72157622335924873/

    5. Re:Bletchley Park by Luyseyal · · Score: 1

      Euston? Isn't that in Texas?

      har har...
      -l

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  14. You'll enjoy the trip more by strangemachinex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Leave the computer at home.

    1. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by icebraining · · Score: 1

      Yes, why enjoy free voip calls to home when you can pay international calls!

    2. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by Carra · · Score: 1

      I couldn't agree more.

      If you're gone for two weeks do you really have to contact home? You're barely gone.

    3. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by Whalou · · Score: 3, Informative

      Last time I went to France I bought a portable hard drive with an integrated media card reader to backup my pictures. The one I got was from Wolverine Data and it worked well. Except for the lack of claws.

      Here's a link to their product page

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    4. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by kubitus · · Score: 0, Troll
      if you leave your camera at home!

      Just ask the Police or MI5 to provide you with video footing showing your activity in Greater London!

    5. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree... leave the computer at home, get an oister pass, the british "tube" will take you anywhere you need to go (except oxford), just take a good cam and lots of SDs with you because every time you pop your head out the tube station there will be something to take snap at.

      By the way, hope you like japanesse girls because uk girls are ugly (most of them) lol.

      (I am from Argentina, my slang is all wrong)

      cheers mate!

    6. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by purpledinoz · · Score: 1

      I would have to agree. A laptop is just another thing you have to worry about getting stolen, broken, etc... There are plenty of internet cafes where you can check your emails. As a general rule, I try to minimize the number of valuable things I bring, so I don't have to worry about them. A guide book (such as Lonely Planet) is quite good to have for maps and sights.

    7. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by Rumagent · · Score: 1

      Why call home? One of the many joys of going abroad is that you get to be alone and experience things on your own.

    8. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by royallthefourth · · Score: 1

      Why make phone calls at all? It's a vacation! If there's anyone back home worth talking to, invite them to come along.

    9. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by acidfast7 · · Score: 1

      don't bring a laptop ... it's a vacation. buy a ton of SD cards. if you travel a lot (which you probably don't ... if vacation is only used if it's going to be lost) they'll pay for themselves after a while. why risk/have the hassle of a laptop just to store pictures ... spend the extra 20USD on extra SD cards.

    10. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 1

      I agree. I complety agree. And do not forget of course the camera and many, many memory cards and if possible some spare energy cells.

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    11. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parent is right.

      It's more fun to get information the old school way, by asking people. They will give you more relevant information than Google for one thing. It is also a good opportunity for you to play the role of the foreigner. It can be a lot of fun.

    12. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by strangemachinex · · Score: 1

      Well I guess if you want to plan for every scenario and have every convenience possible then you could bring a number of items, but I don't like worrying about or lugging around lot of stuff when I travel. I went to Russia for 2 weeks this summer and didn't bring anything electronic but my camera and PSP. Didn't even have a cell phone while I was there. I sent my mom a post card and told her about the trip when I got home. To each his own.

    13. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by Thwomp · · Score: 1

      I agree, but if you have to, just stay in a hotel with computers included, for example the City Inn Westminster has iMacs with Internet access in most rooms.

    14. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DON'T leave the computer at home. It is essential for making last minute plans and looking up the good stuff that doesn't make it into the tourist maps. My wife and I discovered so many neat pubs and restaurants we wouldn't have run across without looking around google for a bit. You can certainly end up wasting your trip if all you do is stay in your hotel room and browse, but used properly, the computer will allow a much more dynamic and interesting trip.

    15. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by VJ42 · · Score: 1

      if you leave your camera at home!

      Just ask the Police or MI5 to provide you with video footing showing your activity in Greater London!

      I know you're trolling, and I actually agree that we have a surveillance problem here in the UK, but the majority of CCTV is privately operated, and yes you can get the footage of yourself (using the data protection act) if you want it. Not sure why you'd bother with the crap resolution on those things though.

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    16. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      You have to be wary about internet cafes, who's to say they wont have keyloggers and other nasties installed on all the terminals... Do you really want to check your email on a machine that all kinds of unscrupulous people may have had access to?

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    17. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by mgblst · · Score: 1

      Somebody who gets it. Take a ipod touch if you must have some internet contact, there is free wifi everywhere.

      Don't even take a book. Try talking to people instead, meet new people. There is no need for constant contact with people back home. Buy an extra sd card or two, they are so cheap.

    18. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, why enjoy free voip calls to home when you can pay international calls!

      I know, when I'm on a 2 week holiday I make sure a call family and friends every day

    19. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Leave the computer at home.

      Agreed. Last year I went to the States for two weeks, and didn't touch a computer once. Trust me, you'll survive. Taking a laptop just means extra luggage and hassle.

      Take your camera with you, and upload the pictures when you get back home.

    20. Re:You'll enjoy the trip more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I totally agree. I took my laptop when I traveled Europe, and I wish I had not. You'll be schlepping your bag quite a bit. Every extra pound is an extra pound you might find ourself carrying *all day long*, some days.

      Take your clothes, take your needful toiletries, take your camera, and take a notepad. The kind made of paper. Take a pen. And have a great trip!

  15. Don't forget DVD region codes.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Due to the money-grasping stupidity of the media companies, if you want to buy & play DVDs whilst in the UK, you'll need to change your drives region code to Region 2. However, since DVDs cost more in the UK (also due to the aforementioned money-grabbing etc....) you may not wish to do that

    1. Re:Don't forget DVD region codes.... by VJ42 · · Score: 1

      Due to the money-grasping stupidity of the media companies, if you want to buy & play DVDs whilst in the UK, you'll need to change your drives region code to Region 2. However, since DVDs cost more in the UK (also due to the aforementioned money-grabbing etc....) you may not wish to do that

      Or he could buy a DVD player whilst he's here and then play DVDs from anywhere (most UK DVD players are region unlocked)

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  16. English, and regular traveller by Neil_Brown · · Score: 2, Informative

    Perhaps the geekiness has got to me, but, I always travel with a computer - for me, currently, my netbook, simply for size and battery life reasons - it's not a huge weight if I don't use it, it's encrypted and everything important is backed-up on my server back at home in case I lose it / it gets stolen, and is great for whiling away time at airports, checking what's going on wherever I am, as well as just keeping up with my email - different strokes for different folks, but, I prefer to be in touch and accessible (but not necessarily to work colleagues) when I'm away.

    I wouldn't think too much about it, though - just pick up a plug adapter. If you're going to be bringing lots of powered appliances / chargers, I tend to find the cheapest / easiest solution is to bring a multi-way extender, and one plug adapter, rather than lots of plug adapters (although this is a habit I started for business travel, I now pack this for personal travel too, especially when travelling with my girlfriend, since it just makes things easier for charging phones, iPods etc.).

    Feel free to drop by one of the local LUGs, if you're a Linux user, or just fancy a geeky chat - SCLUG's my local, down in Reading (about 25 minutes on the train, from Paddington, London) - or just message me on here, since I enjoy meeting new people!

    1. Re:English, and regular traveller by st0nes · · Score: 1

      especially when travelling with my girlfriend, since it just makes things easier for charging phones, iPods etc.

      I've got a solar girlfriend, but she's not much use in London.

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    2. Re:English, and regular traveller by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      especially when travelling with my girlfriend, since it just makes things easier for charging phones, iPods etc.

      I've got a solar girlfriend, but she's not much use in London.

      I bet she's hard to keep warm in November.

    3. Re:English, and regular traveller by raju1kabir · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you're going to be bringing lots of powered appliances / chargers, I tend to find the cheapest / easiest solution is to bring a multi-way extender, and one plug adapter, rather than lots of plug adapters (although this is a habit I started for business travel, I now pack this for personal travel too, especially when travelling with my girlfriend, since it just makes things easier for charging phones, iPods etc.).

      I go the other way. After making 10-20 international trips per year I was fed up with dealing with all the plugs.

      I picked one plug type to standardise on for all the devices I travel with. I went with the US earthed type because they're the most compact and they don't fall out of the sockets. My laptop, phone charger, etc., all have that plug (and I have a power strip of that type at my desk at home).

      Then I carry a little 3-way cube (one plug and three sockets). It's tiny, 2.5cm per side plus the pluggy bits sticking out. picture here

      Then I bring the appropriate single-purpose adapter for the countr(ies) I'll be visiting. I hate the multi-plug ones (the kinds with slidey bits to change which plug they go into) because they always fall apart. The single-purpose ones last for years. I use WonPro WA-II series, which have no moving parts, provide proper earthing when possible, and accept any type of plug. pictures here. They cost about $3 each at shops in town and are indestructible.

      I plug my stuff into the cube, the cube into the country-specific one, and the country-specific one into the wall. This approach is more compact, more reliable, and way cheaper than the alternatives. From one outlet (often all you'll get in a hotel), I get 3 US-style outlets and one universal outlet.

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    4. Re:English, and regular traveller by Neil_Brown · · Score: 1

      I go the other way.

      Your approach sounds almost identical to me!

      a.) Standardise on plugs: you've pick US for size, whereas I use UK because it's all I've got b.) Bring a break-out / multi-way unit: you use a block, whereas I use a strip c.) Bring one converter: yours seems fancier than mine

    5. Re:English, and regular traveller by GNious · · Score: 1

      Alternative: Bring laptop with proper plug (Dell and Apple both have exchangeable cords on the PSU), and charge everything else off of USB...

    6. Re:English, and regular traveller by XedLightParticle · · Score: 1

      It's important to remember that not all equipment works with a 110-250V range, at least remember to check it.

      As for the plug adapter, I have two, one of those terrible multi-plugs which slides and all, mostly because in some countries, you never know what plug your hotel has chosen to settle on. However for the american plug I found a brilliant kind of plug that allowes almost anything to be plugged into it, bought it for $4 in one of New York's chinatowns.

      For charging my phone, i bought a cable that uses the USB to charge it, since i have one where you can enable USB power to stay on while the computer is off, besides, many phones charges from USB even without a special cable.

      I usually don't bring more electronics than that, sometimes a camera, but I prefer to experience things rather than seeing them on an LCD.
      Hotels most often include wifi in the room price, and internet stations in their lobbies, I see no reason to stalk an internet café, disgusting keyboards, and some are very noisy as many are about gaming these days.

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    7. Re:English, and regular traveller by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      Netbooks aren't hassle to carry around everywhere. A full-sized laptop is.

    8. Re:English, and regular traveller by Rantastic · · Score: 1
      Wow, you got rated +4 Informative and yet you described exactly the same approach and the poster you are "disagreeing" with. Allow me to translate:

      multi-way extender = 3-way cube
      one plug adapter = single-purpose adapter

      I know, reading is hard.

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    9. Re:English, and regular traveller by raju1kabir · · Score: 1

      Fair point. I took his "multi-way extender" to be one of those multiple-plug-end things. Anyway, I think the reason I was modded informative was not for the first few words, but for the time I took in the rest of the post to describe my process in detail, including links to photos.

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    10. Re:English, and regular traveller by dingman · · Score: 1

      If you're bringing a laptop, forget the transformer and just bring a plug adapter - they cost only a couple bucks, and they're small. Then charge everything else off the USB ports. Heck, I do this for my regular domestic travel, too, just without the plug adapter. Works for everything I need on my perpetual business trips except the iron and the coffee/tea equipment, and any decent hotel provides those.

  17. Bletchley Park by peterxyz · · Score: 1

    If you're doing geeks on tour, consider going to Bletchley Park

    http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/

    It would be a daytrip on the train from London (it is easy walking distance (5mins?) from Bletchley Park train station

    peter xyz

  18. West-End by StripedCow · · Score: 1

    Of course, visit the West End, and if you like, go to a theatre.

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    1. Re:West-End by digitig · · Score: 1

      If you're not too fussy which show, check out TKTS in Leicester (pronounced "Lester") Square -- half-price tickets for that evenings shows. Usually has a pretty good selection available, depends on what hasn't sold out.

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  19. Travel advice by ultrasound · · Score: 5, Funny

    Public taxis are subsidized by the Her Majesty's Government. A taxi ride in London costs two pounds, no matter how far you travel. If a taxi driver tries to overcharge you, you should yell "I think not, you charlatan!", then grab the nearest policeman (bobby) and have the driver disciplined.

    It is rarely necessary to take a taxi, though, since bus drivers are required to make detours at patrons' requests. Just board any bus, pay your fare of thruppence (the heavy gold-colored coins are "pence"), and state your destination clearly to the driver, e.g.: "Please take me to the British Library." A driver will frequently try to have a bit of harmless fun by pretending he doesn't go to your requested destination. Ignore him, as he is only teasing the American tourist (little does he know you're not so ignorant!).

    For those travelling on a shoestring budget, the London Tube may be the most economical way to get about, especially if you are a woman. Chivalry is alive and well in Britain, and ladies still travel for free on the Tube. Simply take some tokens from the baskets at the base of the escalators or on the platforms; you will find one near any of the state-sponsored Tube musicians. Once on the platform, though, beware! Approaching trains sometimes disturb the large Gappe bats that roost in the tunnels. The Gappes were smuggled into London in the early 19th century by French saboteurs and have proved impossible to exterminate. The announcement "Mind the Gappe!" is a signal that you should grab your hair and look towards the ceiling. Very few people have ever been killed by Gappes, though, and they are considered only a minor drawback to an otherwise excellent means of transportation.

    I can't take credit for this advice, source

    1. Re:Travel advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      State sponsored Tube musicians.

      ROFLMFAO. I think I just hurt myself.

  20. Not exactly the right season by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    London's climate isn't particularly friendly this time of year. Anyway, if you need a computer, bring one. Laptops typically have power supplies which can take any voltage between 110V and 240V, so you'll only need a cheap plug adapter (do check!). US WLAN frequencies are a subset of the European frequencies, but most public WLANs restrict themselves to the US set of frequencies to avoid tech support for travelers not getting a connection. The number of open WLANs is shrinking though; definitely not ubiquitous. Don't rely on open WLAN if you need internet access on the go. The cellphone standard over here is GSM (or UMTS/3G) and the frequencies are different from those used for GSM in the US. Unless you know that you have a phone which works and a plan which won't bankrupt you, best get a cheap prepaid phone. Incoming calls and SMS are free in Europe.

    1. Re:Not exactly the right season by Malc · · Score: 1

      Depends where he's coming from. When I lived in Toronto, I would frequently come back for Christmas in the UK. It was often 20-30 degrees C warmer, snow-free, and just generally quite liberating and pleasant. When it's not stormy, it's actually really nice, and London seems to exist in its own weather bubble (I'd get on the train in Aylesbury in shitty weather, only find it sunny the other side of the Chilterns, and on returning in the evening, find it much colder).

    2. Re:Not exactly the right season by Fotograf · · Score: 1

      London's climate isn't particularly friendly. fixed for you

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    3. Re:Not exactly the right season by stonertom · · Score: 1

      Also many of the prepaid deals have free international minutes or some discount deal

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    4. Re:Not exactly the right season by Retron · · Score: 1
      London's climate isn't particularly friendly this time of year.

      It's been very mild and very wet of late; it's going to get closer to normal for the first week or so in December, after that is anyone's guess. By "very mild" I mean temperatures in the upper 50s (F), whereas they should be in the upper 40s at this time of year. London has a notable "urban heat island" effect and it's not uncommon for it to be a couple to a few degrees warmer than surrounding areas. Snow is rare in London, especially so in December.

      More notable will be the darkness: all of the lower 48 States are further south than the UK, thus there'll be less daylight than you're used to (unless you're Alaskan!) Sunset is currently around 4PM, sunrise is half seven in the morning. By late December sunset is around 3:50PM and sunrise isn't until after eight. Get a cloudy, wet day and it can really seem bleak.

  21. Something to consider with the laptop... by LordAndrewSama · · Score: 1

    ...is returning to america. don't you have some seriously mental border protection at airports and what not? don't worry about it at heathrow, it's a cake walk taking anything through there the twice i've flown from/to heathrow recently. then again, I've a UK passport, but noone else seemed to have any problems walking through either.

    1. Re:Something to consider with the laptop... by Spad · · Score: 1

      I've never had any problems getting my laptop in and out of the US when I travel there, despite the potential problems - I guess I just don't look suspicious enough.

    2. Re:Something to consider with the laptop... by aussie_a · · Score: 1

      Are you pale? The paler you are, the safer you are.

    3. Re:Something to consider with the laptop... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I do look suspicious and frequently get pulled over for extra questioning when I visit the US. The most they've ever done with my laptop is swap the edges to test for explosive residue (cleaning it slightly in the process - shame they didn't do the screen) and ask me to turn it on (wake it from suspend mode) to prove that it really was a laptop. Interestingly, they didn't ask me to log on, so a static image of the login box would have been enough there. I'd broken one of the hinges just before the trip and was a bit concerned that they'd snap the screen off if they tried to open it, so they let me open it myself.

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  22. bletchey park by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have to take a day out to go here - http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/ which is where allies broke the codes on the enigma machines used by the Germans in the 2nd World War, as featured in the movie enigma. Alan Turing worked there during this period. It's not that far from London on the main rail line to Milton Keynes and then it's just a short walk from the station to the museum. Also a national museum of computing is there - http://www.tnmoc.org/ but only on restricted opening hours.

    The science museum in central london is free and worth some time - http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/visitmuseum.aspx I also like http://designmuseum.org/ in SE london.

  23. u r geek? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are asking the question about taking your notebook, the you should also if you area a geek

  24. i guess this is why i never go to london.. by bassdrop · · Score: 1

    It's full of hoards of stupid American tourists :)

    There's more to "Eng-er-land" than London. It's a piss-filled city and really not that nice, which is like most capital cities around the world.

    I personally wouldn't take a laptop, unless you like having a ball and chain around your neck.

    Take some warm clothes, and the minimum amount you need, use London as a launch pad to the rest of the UK and Europe

    1. Re:i guess this is why i never go to london.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thankfully people with your attitude don't come in to town too often. Growing up an hour from London in one of England's ubiquitous market towns meant I too was small-minded and hated London, but that attitude quickly changed after I emigrated in 1996. London is an awesome city, and I'm glad I've returned to the UK. There's no way I could live anywhere else in this country though - if I'm in a position of having to leave London, I will move back overseas instead. I can get my UK fix by holiday here.

    2. Re:i guess this is why i never go to london.. by Nursie · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's about the only place in the UK worth bothering with. Everywhere else is full of pissed-up chavs.

      I guess you're just a yokel though, if you don't like cities. Here's a tip - some people like to do more with their evenings than hang out in the barn fucking pigs.

    3. Re:i guess this is why i never go to london.. by Wizard+Drongo · · Score: 1

      Actually, having lived in the UK my entire life, I'd say London is one of the places most definitely NOT to visit.
      I'm far from a yokel, but London is a complete shitheap of a city. There are a few interesting places to go to that are IN london, but not enough to justify staying there, and certainly not for 2 whole weeks. You can visit the geeky places inside a day or two...
      Try Scotland. Glasgow's at least as nice a place as London (stay in the centre, same with London), but Scotland also has something southern-England doesn't: scenery.

      We have mountains, ski-slopes, picturesque Glens, brilliant forest trails (the West Highland Way is considered one of the finest hikes in Europe), beautiful islands and the weather is only a little bit shitter than London. We also have better food and where else in the world can you find bagpipers on the streets, shops devoted to nothing but whisky and drunk Glaswegians (a comedic spectacular unrivalled on the planet)?

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    4. Re:i guess this is why i never go to london.. by Nursie · · Score: 1

      Hi,

      Glasgow?
      FYI London has bagpipers, whisky shops and world class food, far better than your deep fried pizza. We also don't have quite such a high percentage of the population addicted to heroin.

      The weather is whole lot shittier and the city is nasty. Id you'd said edinburgh you might have got away with it.

      I also have lived in the UK my whole life. I find that there's nowhere else that feels like a real city and that outside of one or two picturesque places much the countryside is a shitheap, especially the small-to-midsize towns.

      YMMV, of course.

    5. Re:i guess this is why i never go to london.. by Malc · · Score: 1

      As somebody who as lived in Toronto, Shanghai, Melbourne and London in the last 18 months, I believe you're wrong about London. It's one of the better cities in the world to live. In fact, I would drive right past Glasgow to get to Edinburgh, which has some of the finest architecture and presence in the whole of the UK. Scotland is truly beautiful, but to claim the ski-slopes as a selling point is pushing it a bit. Having hiked in the wilderness in Canada, and the Rockies in the US, and Andes in Peru, and the mountains of New Zealand's South Island (very Scottish around Queenstown btw), I'm happy with any number of country walks close to London - if I'm going to make the effort to get to Scotland (yes, as I said, very gorgeous), I'd just as soon hop on a plane to Nova Scotia or Newfoundland....

    6. Re:i guess this is why i never go to london.. by CmdrGravy · · Score: 1

      I'd like to second this opinion.

      You'll be bored out of your mind after a week in London, never mind two, so get out and explore the rest of the British countryside.

      Perhaps avoid the Lake District at the moment though.

    7. Re:i guess this is why i never go to london.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about Brighton? That has pissed up Londoners (down for the weekend), pissed up students, pissed up foreign tourists *and* pissed up chavs.
      Although its a good place to go on your holiday if you want some nightlife (with something for everyone, really!) and a slightly more laid-back attitude than London.

      No one seems to have mentioned the Barbican in London... they usually have interesting exhibitions and if you're into that kind of thing, theatre and other performance type things. http://www.barbican.org.uk/

      Everyone else who has mentioned the Oyster card is spot on... you'll save yourself loads of money that way. And if you want a challenge, get yourself to somewhere in London far away from where you're staying in the middle of the night and try to get back using only the night buses. See if you a) die of boredom, b) get stabbed or c) give up and sleep in the gutter.

  25. This blog has everything you need... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com

  26. NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do NOT go to Oxford, or if you do, only go for an afternoon. Once you've seen the university, it is an extremely tedious place.

    1. Re:NO by LSD-OBS · · Score: 1

      Seconded. Yawn.

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  27. Check your voltages and frequencies! by Sockatume · · Score: 1

    As well as changing power cords (or just buying travel adaptors) you should ensure your devices are actually world-voltage, 110-240v 50-60Hz. Also figure out what you're doing with your phone. If you're roaming, ensure the carrier's enabled it, and if you're planning on picking up a cheap SIM while you're here, make sure your phone is unlocked. In either case make sure that your phone supports (at a minimum) tri-band GSM. Wi-fi is universal, but expect to pay through the nose for it unless you're buying a large amount of capacity or your hotel/hostel provides it. Internet cafes are (fairly) cheap and plentiful but aren't a great option if you want to have your camera sitting there uploading umpteen snaps to Flickr.

    With that settled, go to the Natural History Museum. Pick where you want to go, though, that thing will eat your entire weekend if you let it. And if you want to see real England, and not just London (even compared to the other cities, it's rather singular), get out of the city on the train for a few days. Canterbury is gorgeous, but that's just my preference. Heck, get your ass on the Pendolino and go up to Yorkshire, or Scotland. The Caledonian Sleeper will take you right up into the wilderness overnight.

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    1. Re:Check your voltages and frequencies! by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      I'd strongly recommend hitting the East Coast Main Line up to York, but generally speaking if you cannot get to where you want to go directly from London then it's really not worth the hassle of fighting the UK rail network.

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    2. Re:Check your voltages and frequencies! by bfree · · Score: 1

      I agree London is certainly not worthy of anything close to 2 weeks, if it was my first time out of the US I'd be thinking about trying to hit a few more countries with the most obvious candidates being Scotland, Wales, Ireland, France and Holland. Cheap flights, trains and even a ferry are all options, perhaps even just going through the Channel Tunnel would peak your interest. Worthy of special mention are Amsterdam, Paris, the North coast of France (think D-Day, would arriving on a ferry to the North coast of France send shivers down your spine) and really anywhere in Scotland, Wales or Ireland will expose you to changes in culture and scenery without worrying about any language barriers.

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    3. Re:Check your voltages and frequencies! by slim · · Score: 1

      generally speaking if you cannot get to where you want to go directly from London then it's really not worth the hassle of fighting the UK rail network

      I disagree. Get http://transportdirect.info/ to plan your journey. One or two changes should not pose a problem. More might get tedious.

      If you use the train 100s of times a year, you're likely to have occasional problems. A couple of tourist trips, ought to work smoothly.

      It might be worth planning your rail journeys on weekdays, as there are reduced timetables on Sundays, and engineering works are frequently scheduled for weekends.

    4. Re:Check your voltages and frequencies! by digitig · · Score: 1

      the North coast of France

      In December????

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    5. Re:Check your voltages and frequencies! by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      I disagree. Get http://transportdirect.info/ [transportdirect.info] to plan your journey.
      A couple of points

      1: transport direct is useful for intermodal planning but it also seems to show incrediblly slow coach routes sometimes even when there is a much faster rail route which can get annoying. Rail specific planners areg enerally easiler for rail planning in my experiance.

      2: get the timetables for the routes the planner sends you on, this both lets you avoid routes with unacceptablly low frequencies and helps you replan when trains are delayed. Sometimes if you are quick at changing and have open tickets you can even get there sooner than the planner says.

      One or two changes should not pose a problem. More might get tedious.
      I tend to worry more about total time and potential time extentions than changes, indeed in some ways i'd rather have a few changes than sit on one train for hours.

      One nice thing about basing yourself in london is that being the hub of the UK rail netwosk a lot of places are in day trip reach by train. hell london to manchester is only just over two hours.

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    6. Re:Check your voltages and frequencies! by ais523 · · Score: 1

      Worse than just that. There's currently a row over pay (as there often is), and it turns out that here in the UK the train drivers aren't forced to work on Sundays, but rather get paid double if they do. So many (most?) of them are on overtime strike (i.e. working just the minimum possible), and as a result some lines are on a reduced, or basically absent, Sunday timetable.

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    7. Re:Check your voltages and frequencies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're any sort of transport geek, UK railways will be a delight for the mixture of ancient and modern, and the more changes the better.
      For rail-only journeys, go to http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/ and use the journey planner. This site also has fares (including very cheap advance ones), live train timing info and major incident info. It also has info about 'traintracker' which allows you to send an SMS such as 'dep nottingham to derby' and get a reply with the next few trains and any delay info. I use this all the time when out and about.

      Don't forget the many 'heritage' railways (mostly steam, with some vintage diesel**) - although a lot of these have very restricted timetables (or no trains at all) in Winter. This site:
      http://ukhrail.uel.ac.uk/
      indexes them all.

      The most convienient heritage railways have an interchange with the national railway network. Watch out for some rather disappointing ones which only go a couple of miles. Ten miles each way is a good journey on an HR since they are generally limited to 20mph (which is good - scenery etc.).

      **The vintage diesels may be less photogenic, but often you can sit behind the driver and see out the front.

      The Bluebell railway is best known abroad, but as a result it does get rather crowded and it is not currently connected to the National network, although they are working on it:
      http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/ext/extprog.html

      The Severn Valley Railway is delightful from just about every point of view (route, stations, locos, towns, length of ride, access from national rail network etc.). Take a look at this:
      http://www.svr.co.uk/route.php

      More convenient for London is the Mid-Hants railway (Watercress line) - just over an hour from London, direct.
      http://www.watercressline.co.uk/qkguide.htm

      Apologies to the other excellent HR's I didn't mention!

  28. Heathrow by da5idnetlimit.com · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bring :

    - Something to read (for when the luggage tracking and transport system fails)
    - Emergency underwear (for when they will lose your luggage)
    - Anal lube (for when you complain about the delay and lost luggage)

    If in addition you travel with british airways, I would say a dose of Valium or Prozac and a strong whisky would do the trick.

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    1. Re:Heathrow by XedLightParticle · · Score: 1

      it's such a hassle to convince security that it's alright for you to bring a bottle of liquids on board the plane, anal lube may be okay if put into a sealed clear plastic bag.

      Anyway most (non-discount) airlines offer free drinks during intercontinental flights, including whisky.
      I don't know if there's a legal drinking age in the air, but I've never heard them ask anyone for ID.

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    2. Re:Heathrow by denzacar · · Score: 1

      Bring:

      Also:

      Your American birth certificate, your proof of owning land/houses/structures in the US or UK, proof of any hotel reservations that you may have made, letters of guaranty from as many British citizens as you can, your proof that you are not Muslim, your proof that you are white, your 27B/6...

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    3. Re:Heathrow by Pikoro · · Score: 1

      Wait.. did he say... outside?

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    4. Re:Heathrow by Z00L00K · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Luggage is only lost at Terminal 5 at Heathrow.

      And pray to some deity that you don't have to be involved with Air France.

      That can make most other airlines seem friendly.

      But don't worry too much - it's the UK, not a third world country you are going too. Just bring a warm pajamas since not all hotels are up to winter standard. And expect the faucets in the sinks to be single faucets and only provide warm or cold water, not mixed temperate water.

      There are a lot of things that are a bit funny in England aside from the fact that they drive on the wrong side. But that's just making things more interesting.

      Don't worry about the food - it's far better than the rumor has it.

      Places to visit depends on where you go, but if you go south you can visit Winchester (old capital of England) and the Eling Tidal Mill (place suitable for geeks) outside Southampton.

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    5. Re:Heathrow by gander666 · · Score: 1
      Bzzzt. That benefit (for US carriers at least) is as dad as the dodo. United, USAir, Delta, Continental, American all charge now for over seas alcohol.

      Doesn't bother me though, as I rarely have even a single beer on a flight...

      FWIW, I think that all the mainline international carriers still offer free beer and wine in the economy cabin.

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    6. Re:Heathrow by gander666 · · Score: 1

      D'oh... dad = dead

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    7. Re:Heathrow by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          I know it's a joke, but you did hit one of my recommendations. I do recommend Xanax for long flights. :) Given the choice of sitting there bored out of my skull for hours on end, or sleeping through the flight, I'd rather sleep and wake up on the far side. Talk to your doc, get one for each way, and you should wake up in time refreshed for the 12 hours of "where's my luggage?". :)

         

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    8. Re:Heathrow by Fortunato_NC · · Score: 5, Funny

      My condolences.

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    9. Re:Heathrow by geezer+nerd · · Score: 1

      Uh, he is just planning to visit, not immigrate!

      Having an American passport is as good as a birth certificate, as you had to provide that or its equivalent to get the passport in the first place.

      And depending on where you want to go, you might check whether you need to get a visa beforehand. That should be no problem for Europe, but traveling around Asia or Africa may find you in places where a visa is needed and you might be asked to cough up some relatively serious US$. I reside in NZ and travel on a US passport. Although any NZ citizen can freely go to Australia to visit, or to move in, I had to buy a visa before I could go.

    10. Re:Heathrow by XedLightParticle · · Score: 1

      Hmmm I wonder if the previous flights that NWA operated codesharing with KLM will then lose this benefit too when they're now Delta...

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    11. Re:Heathrow by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

      And pray to some deity that you don't have to be involved with Air France.

      Y'know... I've never actually had a problem with Air France, and I've flown from Montreal to Paris and back with them several times. Though I think that their level of courtesy is greatly improved if you speak French with a French accent. (I'm Canadian, but I lived in Strasbourg for a year).

      That said, for other destinations in Europe, I do much prefer to fly KLM or Lufthansa....

    12. Re:Heathrow by ircmaxell · · Score: 1

      As someone who's traveled quite a bit in the past few years (I did over 150k miles in the past 12 months), I would recommend against the booze. Unless you're really nervous and need to take the edge off, it'll do more harm than good. Imagine timing a hangover with jet lag... It's not fun in the least. Not to mention that the thin air makes the booze go to your head quite a bit faster (or feel as such anyway)

      My routine for such a long flight normally involves sleeping for a few hours after the meal, then getting up and roaming around the plane for an hour or so, then repeat. Taking a bunch of 2 to 3 hour 'naps' will help you sync your clock to the arrival time without forcing you to stay awake (or sleep) for extended periods. As for entertainment, I try to stay away from movies. When I watch them, I tend to screw up the sleep rhythm... Oh, and last point. Buy a 2 liter bottle of water for every 4 to 6 hours of flight time (They sell them inside the terminal at most airports I've been to). Drinking that much water will do two things. First, it will give you something to do. Second, it's really hard to stay hydrated for such a long flight on those little cups the flight attendants give you.

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    13. Re:Heathrow by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      Just your passport and drivers' licence are plenty as far as documents are concerned. Also, if you take any medication, stock up before you leave the US, since prescriptions aren't recognised internationally.

      But one good reason to take your own laptop is so that you can take care of your own security if you have to do any kind of unavoidable online transaction. In December last year my wife talked me out of taking my laptop with me on holiday, and I took the risk (yeah, headsmack) of using a computer installed in the accommodation I was at, not being able to update the AV without hacking the machine, which I was unwilling to do. It might just have been coincidence, but a couple of weeks later (fortunately after I had got back home) I had a spurious transaction of $800 debited against my Visa card for some online purchase.

      Fortunately the bank picked it up before I did, but the downside was that I was without the card for a couple of weeks while the matter got straightened out. It could all have been a lot worse, but it was enough to teach me a lesson.

    14. Re:Heathrow by hughk · · Score: 1

      He's flying with Baggage Anywhere and probably via Thiefrow, his baggage problems will be solved in no time. Actually, my luggage used to regularly fail to make connecting flights with BA. The plus side of this was that the baggage would generally be delivered via taxi the next day to my preferred location (even at work).

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    15. Re:Heathrow by magarity · · Score: 1

      Don't worry about the food - it's far better than the rumor has it
       
      My observation while in London is that the more animals in the name of the pub, the better the food. For example, a place called "the quick brown fox pub" would just be OK, while a place called "the quick dog and hunting stallion chasing three white stags pub" is going to be excellent.

    16. Re:Heathrow by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      Funny, I had a connecting flight just last week through British Airways and Heathrow and didn't encounter any of those problems. A sleeping pill for the trans-Atlantic second flight would have been nice, though.

    17. Re:Heathrow by Alinabi · · Score: 3, Funny

      What are you talking about? I fly Air France all the time and it is one of the best out there. Food is still free and quite good by airline standards, checked bags don't cost extra, and I never missed a connection because of them. I would pick them any time over Delta or American. Now, those are some nightmarish airlines, with some very rude crews. Also, when in England, if you ask someone for directions, keep in mind that, no matter how official they look, they will always give you two pieces of information, one of which is wrong.

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    18. Re:Heathrow by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1
      I knew there was someone waiting to be an asshole in the thread. Actually, I thought it was about some guy in England wanting to visit America, and I was prepared for the hatred. To my surprise, the thread was filled with useful, informative, kind comments. What happened to Slashdot, I thought...is it April Fool's Day?

      But thanks for reaffirming my faith, sir. PS the guy at the link is a moron, you don't make jokes with immigration or customs officers. PPS his birth certificate wouldn't have helped him, why'd you say that?

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    19. Re:Heathrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      friend of mine had a lot of problems with customs flying nonstop to London. It was mostly his fault, though he was not doing anything illegal, he just tried to get in on a tourist visa when he was actually going to be a student. Could have easily gotten it changed out while he was there, but "they" didn't like that. Since he spoke Russian, he got stuck in a back room of the airport for hours while a big sweaty guy asked him questions along with a group of Eastern European guys who were in there for God-knows-what. Eventually, they decided he wasn't a security risk, but nevertheless had to be deported. To Iceland. After coming back to the States to get his paperwork straightened out, his next flight had a brief stopover in Ireland. Flight into London went without a hitch, they didn't even check his visa.

      So, you might book your flight with a stopover in London. Could avoid some security headaches, and alleviate the need for the aforementioned anal lube.

    20. Re:Heathrow by Volante3192 · · Score: 1

      When did this happen? When I flew to Sydney in '07 I got free booze and it was United.

    21. Re:Heathrow by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

      I'll second the extra underwear bit. I've been stranded without luggage, tickets, and business/travel itinerary in countries where I don't speak the language. But you can survive if you make sure you have some minimum gear. Step 1 - email your ticket numbers, itinerary details, passport information, credit card number, etc to yourself at yahoo, gmail, or whatever remote access point you trust. Basically all the critical information you would need to get a new passport and tickets to get home even if you were striped naked and left for dead (more likely just pickpocket or dropped something by mistake). You can now access that information from nearly anywhere on earth, speeding up recovery immensely. Step 2 - keep a backpack and passport holder with you at all times. Keep passport, tickets and credit card on you at all times, keep survival stuff in the backpack (towel, underwear, socks, toothbrush, etc). Giant bag of Twizzlers are a good idea. If you're stuck waiting somewhere (between flights, busses, police station), you have a snack that you'll probably only eat enough to get by. Camera, computer, books etc are optional. Step 3 - dump everything else in luggage.

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    22. Re:Heathrow by cdhgee · · Score: 1

      If you travel with British Airways, they'll give you the booze for free on the plane... :)

    23. Re:Heathrow by drummerboybac · · Score: 1

      I flew air france from boston to Prague, and to make the connection was an absolute nightmare. We had 45 minutes to get to our next plane, which involved a tram ride that took 35 minutes, then running across the airport, a security check, getting to the gate, realizing there was an unannounced gate change, more running, another security check, then they threw us in another tram that took us to an isolated building, then a third security check then one last tram that stopped at the plane itself where we had to board from the ground, to take off late

      Yipee.

      P.S. This was 2006 for my honeymoon, have they improved since?

    24. Re:Heathrow by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Informative

      > Luggage is only lost at Terminal 5 at Heathrow.

      Be careful at the airport in general though. There are a lot of criminals picking on confused and jet-lagged easy targets who are trying to concentrate on all the signs rather than their bags.

      > And pray to some deity that you don't have to be involved with Air France.

      British Airways are not much better. Their staff have an unfortunate habit of going on strike at short notice, and BA will do fuck all to get you to your destination. A hotel for the night or a refund isn't much use when you need to be somewhere and and all the last-minute tickets are 5x the price of yours.

      > the fact that they drive on the wrong side

      It's hopefully obvious but don't forget that you also need to look the other way when crossing the road.

      > Don't worry about the food - it's far better than the rumor has it.

      No, English food really is that bad. We all eat foreign food. Indian is the most popular, although like most places outside of India itself the food is more like 'Indian style' tailored to local tastes.

      Real English food is both unhealthy and bland. Stick to Asian or European.

      Oh, and when we say "Asian", we mean India/Pakistan and the surrounding area, not the Far East. I think I'm right in saying that most Americans think of Japanese and Chinese people as Asian.

      > you can visit Winchester (old capital of England)

      A short extract from Crap Towns:

      "Any character disappeared from the town centre when the high street received the chain store make-over, house-prices are exorbitant and cater exclusively for well-heeled London-employed family-builders seeking old England, and the countryside has been hewn by Maggie's M3 legacy. And that isn't the half of it. It's the middle-class complacency, nay arrogance that defines the place."

      I would recommend Bletchly Park, the home of the world's first computer and the place where war-time code breakers worked.

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    25. Re:Heathrow by seandiggity · · Score: 1

      If in addition you travel with british airways, I would say a dose of Valium or Prozac and a strong whisky would do the trick.

      My BA flight to Nairobi was heaven compared to my experiences with other airlines, but my luggage was lost at Heathrow. YMMV, just like with any corporation you deal with, especially in an industry as messed up as air travel. Not that I'd ever downplay the miraculous powers of a strong whisky...

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    26. Re:Heathrow by Alinabi · · Score: 1

      You must be a very unlucky guy. I flew Air France many times before 2006 an since, and never had such a terrible experience. The only notable incident was in 2003 when some baggage handler in CDG stole stuff from my bags and Air France promptly gave me a $300 check right there in the airport, to replace the most important items, and later reimbursed me for another $600.

      By the way, the tram at CDG goes around the airport twice in 35 minutes. Were you at Orly? I never flew through there.

      Now, Delta, on the other hand, I can tell you a few horror stories about them, but I don't want to overflow Slashtod's storage capacity.

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    27. Re:Heathrow by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Last time I flew with British Airways, you could wile away the time just looking at their gorgeous flight attendants.

      Have their standards fallen so low that you'd bring a book? Damn.

    28. Re:Heathrow by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

      >I've never actually had a problem with Air France, and I've flown from Montreal to Paris and back with them several times.

      Agreed. It's Air Canada that's the nightmare, and Montreal Airport is where you will really want to have that lube handy. It is probable that my San Francisco accented French is more acceptable than Canadian French. At least I have found the Air France personnel extremely friendly and polite. And yes, I fly Lufthansa whenever I can.

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    29. Re:Heathrow by gander666 · · Score: 1

      Sometime in 2008. About the time that they started charging for checked baggage.

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    30. Re:Heathrow by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

      Is it actually possible now to get from Heathrow to London? Last summer it seemed like you had to go through Manchester to get to London.

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    31. Re:Heathrow by Panaflex · · Score: 1

      Oh, and bring a towel.

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    32. Re:Heathrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because the former pub had to cook "urban fox pie", whereas the latter one has plenty of healthy wild venison casserole. Or dog pie.

      However yes, he should go to as many different pubs (not modern bars, PUBS) as he can, and try plenty of different ales. Like all such things, some pubs are to be avoided, but there shouldn't be a problem otherwise.

    33. Re:Heathrow by oldhack · · Score: 1

      I rather like British Airways, but the problem is most of their flight go through Heathrow, which is a non-issue for the story submitter who's actually going to London. They had their issue with luggage sorting when the new Terminal 5 was opened, but I think that was sorted out by now.

      Whatever you do, and it pains me to say this, do not fly an American major (United, Delta, AA) unless you're into masochism.

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    34. Re:Heathrow by Knara · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you need to not associate "drinking" with "hangovers".

      I detect someone who has a hard time with drinking in moderation.

    35. Re:Heathrow by ircmaxell · · Score: 1

      Well, my point was that in a reduced oxygen environment (A plane's cabin is typically pressurized to the equivalent of 8000 feet) without an adequate supply of hydration, it takes FAR less alcohol to get to that point. In fact, the reduced pressure/oxygen/hydration can give people headaches and hangover-like symptoms without any alcohol. Adding alcohol just adds to that mix.

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    36. Re:Heathrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you do visit Winchester, some places to visit are:

      - Intech (sciency-place mainly intended for children, but has stuff for adults)
        The Cathedral - interesting stuff about all the work needed in the early 1900s to repair it (the
      statue of William Walker the diver is now believed to show the correct face - the old statue is placed out of the way. Also has the longest nave in England. An amusing gravestone indicating the dangers of buying cheap adulterated beer.
      - The Great Hall (remaining part of the castle - a medieval hall). Ignore the horrible statue of Queen Victoria
      - The Winchester Mill. Milling takes place infrequently over the winter months
      - The Hospital of St Cross. An early almshouse. Remember to ask for the "wayfarers dole" (a can of beer and a piece of bread, available to anyone who asks for it)
      - Winchester College, an early and notable public school (a very exclusive private school in american terms)
      - If you enjoy reading Jane Austen visit her grave in the cathedral. Her house is a few miles outside Winchester. She hated Winchester it should be noted.

      Other places in the south worth visiting if you are into a military stuff is the Historic dockyard at portsmouth (HMS Victory, HMS Warrior, Gosport submarine museum), as well as forts such as Hurst Castle

    37. Re:Heathrow by Knara · · Score: 1

      Drinking water is fine, but unless someone is doing some strenuous activity, that particular pressurization doesn't mean a whole lot.

    38. Re:Heathrow by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      D'oh... dad = dead

      My condolences.

      See, this is what comes of misusing mathematical symbols...

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    39. Re:Heathrow by nigelo · · Score: 1

      If you have more than one stop, do your best to fly on a single airline - that way, if/when there is a delay, there is some hope the airline will provide re-booking, accommodations, food vouchers, etc.

      Also, don't forget the ear-plugs to shut out the sounds of the air rushing over the air-frame, the child in the seat in front of you, or behind, noisy co-passengers, etc.

      On a long flight, try to keep your eyes closed as much as possible, since they will dry out and turn into sultanas, which would be more tasty than the airline food that you should also avoid looking at.

      One gin and tonic, then one glass of red wine with your meal is my recommended limit while flying.

      When wheels-down, the wearing of a hockey-mask, Obama mask, etc. for the reasons of anonymity from CCTV is not recommended.

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    40. Re:Heathrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be prepared to provide DNA as well.

    41. Re:Heathrow by spitzak · · Score: 1

      Travel to London is not too bad.

      You can take the Heathrow Express, which takes about 15 minutes and costs a lot (15 pounds?). It drops you at Paddington station, which is the northwest corner of the interesting area and all the tube lines go there.

      If you have more time a cheaper option that really works is to take the Picadilly line in. This will cost less than 4 pounds (get an Oyster card even if you are there for only one day), and you are already on the tube so you can get to whatever station you really need for no extra cost. However travel time is like 50 minutes. Most of it is above ground so you can see something.

    42. Re:Heathrow by joocemann · · Score: 1

      You lie! Brit food is like eating simple flavorless matter and mush!

      I lived there for nearly 5 months, and like all foreign countries I've lived in, I try to eat the local food.... I couldn't. I did, but it sucked over and over again....

      And then I realized (and heard on Radio 1) that Brits eat more curry than they do traditional brit food. And so I started to eat at Indian restaurants and was happy again.

      Brit food is junk. It is honestly like someone made a random recipe and didn't have any spices.

    43. Re:Heathrow by tjanke · · Score: 1
      The food is good *so long as you stay in the cities and towns*.

      Try eating at some small village pub in the middle of nowhere and you will be served Chicken L'Orange swimming in the most disgusting lake of liquid grease you've ever seen. I should have just ordered bangers and mash. True story.

      However, the food is good in London itself. And in Jedburgh (on the A68 near the English-Scottish border), there is (or was) a wonderful little restaurant, with a fine selection of wines, whose head chef is (or was) a tiny, young Scottish woman with bright blond spiky hair. The meal was excellent. Wish I could remember the name of the place.

      The upshot is, as long as you're in London or a largish town, the food is good. Even excellent.

      (As an aside, I told my greasy chicken l'orange tale of woe to an englishman on a flight once, and he tried to convince me that I could find fare just as bad in the french countryside [i.e. away from the cities and towns]. I'm not sure I believe him - I've heard a great deal about "the ordinary excellence of the everyday french cook". I'm looking forward to testing his hypothesis one day!)

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    44. Re:Heathrow by ryanov · · Score: 1

      I am pretty sure you're incorrect.

    45. Re:Heathrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot to mention the towel.
      Remember, Timothy said he's a geek....

    46. Re:Heathrow by denzacar · · Score: 1

      PPS his birth certificate wouldn't have helped him, why'd you say that?

      DUH! So they would know WHERE to deport you. I mean him.

      Also, so he could prove to US authorities that he is actually born in the USA.
      I hear some there believe that their actual president is not really an American... one must think ahead.

      PS the guy at the link is a moron, you don't make jokes with immigration or customs officers.

      See? And he was a guy who often travels outside of US.
      Plus he is an intellectual capable of living from his sense of humor and his doodles.
      Ergo, he might be a moron - but he sure is the upper crust of the moron population. or maybe he is just an amateur moron.
      You know... Maybe it is like a hobby for him.

      And just imagine the hijinks had his name been Mohammed? Boy, would that second page look different.

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    47. Re:Heathrow by Rei · · Score: 1

      it's such a hassle to convince security that it's alright for you to bring a bottle of liquids on board the plane,

      Depends on where you are. I couldn't get over how lax people in Japan were about security. On our last evening there, we went to the Kansai International Airport on an artificial island in Osaka Bay. We planned to just check our heavy hiking backpacks as baggage and then head back up to Kyoto for more of the Gion Matsuri, or possibly spend some time in Osaka itself. However, when we got there, we not only found that we couldn't check our bags, but that the train that got us there was the last one of the evening, so we were stuck.

      It then occurred to us: we still had bottles of white gas in our backpacks. And we were now in an airport.

      Rick came up with the idea of emptying it into his coke bottle, and then throwing that into the trash in the bathroom. But in the bathroom, I realize how crazy of an idea this was, throwing something that toxic and flammable into the trash full of paper towels. And talk about suspicious! So we carried it back.

      The next morning, when people started showing up to re-open the airport, we then had the idea to give it to a security guard to dispose of. So we carried it up to the security guard, and then realized how incredibly suspicious *that* looked. Here we were, trying to explain in our poor Japanese, why we're carring a coke bottle full of highly flammable liquid in an airport. And while we were confident that we got across *what* it was, I think we did a lousy job of explaining *why* we had it.

      In the US, we likely would have been dragged off to security on the spot. In Japan? The guy said it's not a problem and offered to check it as luggage for us. I'll repeat: he offered to check our highly suspicious coke bottle of white gas as airplane luggage for us. We politely refused. He offered to mail it to us if we wanted. Again, we politely refused and recommended that they dispose of it, thinking to ourselves, "That's okay. You can keep this practically-a-molotov-cocktail..."

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    48. Re:Heathrow by ryanov · · Score: 1

      And I did some hunting around and apparently I and all of my friends that flew internationally recently JUST missed the cutoff for this, or didn't order drinks. It seems positively insane.

    49. Re:Heathrow by footnmouth · · Score: 1

      I grew up 100 yards from Eling Tide Mill - kayaked under the bridge and out to see in my home made kayak to make this vaguely geeky, and I now live in Winchester and never expected them to be mentioned on Slasdot.

      Weird.

      Anyway, there's also the excellent City Mill in Winchester and it's 59 minutes by train from Waterloo station (Eling is 70 minutes - get the train to Totton and then walk down Eling Lane). From a nerd perspective, the computer museum at Bletchley is worth a visit, and in London the V&A, British Museum, Tate Modern (good Warhole exihibits) are all good, and if you like engineering the pumping station at Greenwhich is interesting (honest).

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    50. Re:Heathrow by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The tip about earplugs is well worth following. I can't sleep without them.

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    51. Re:Heathrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also remember to get your Xanax in the US as doctors in the UK tend to actually only prescribe medication when needed.

    52. Re:Heathrow by socsoc · · Score: 1

      Imagine timing a hangover with jet lag... It's not fun in the least.

      But it's a good excuse for being hungover. Uh, sorry guys, but it's only 3am back home, my body hasn't slept it off yet.

      Not to mention that the thin air makes the booze go to your head quite a bit faster (or feel as such anyway)

      That's a benefit! I mean, after awhile they're gonna run outta booze. Or at least I've experienced them telling my party that we drank them outta specific types and they offered others. Man, we musta spent a small fortune on that flight. Two at a time, $5 each, wait, that's cheaper than some well drinks in California... I gotta fly more.

    53. Re:Heathrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been to England a couple of times. Things I find very disturbing:

      1. Old Glory is nowhere to be seen. Frankly, I find this disrespect for our flag to be upsetting. I noticed the same problem in Cancun and Tijuana, too. I haven't been anywhere else outside of the US, so I can't say if this is a worldwide problem.

      2. I can't find Rush Limbaugh on the radio, at all. Clearly a liberal bias.

      3. It's really hard to find Fox News. Don't people there want fair-and-balanced reporting?

      4. I tried to rent (sorry, "hire") a Hummer from Hertz at Heathrow. They said that they didn't have one. When I left the office, I got the distinct sensation that they were laughing at me.

    54. Re:Heathrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I come from belgium and have lived in England for a year. Food IS definatly as bad as the rumor says it is...

    55. Re:Heathrow by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      A passport not only verifies your identity, but also your citizenship. It's why you either show that or a Social Security card when accepting a new job in the USA. Traveling with your birth certificate sounds like an incredibly bad idea - passports can be replaced at your local embassy, but without a birth certificate, you're in really bad shape. Are you taking the piss, or just intentionally misunderstanding?

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    56. Re:Heathrow by Kuad · · Score: 1

      Normally I quite like BA, but their flight attendants in my experience will answer a yes/no question with a whinny and 1 stamp of the hoof for yes, 2 stamps for no. Give them a sugar cube and you'll be treated well.

    57. Re:Heathrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The food? What the fuck do Americans know about food?

    58. Re:Heathrow by Phoghat · · Score: 1
      It's not English food, but my daughter-in-law is of Irish extraction (her mother and father were born there). She goes to Ireland quite often to visit relatives and follow U2 (big fan). She hates the food, as it consists of a daily diet of boiled bacon, boiled cabbage and boiled potatoes. Hint Corned beef doesn't exist there.

      Pub food is much the same and fish and chips is tolerable.

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    59. Re:Heathrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was told on a recent AA flight that it's been the case for years. I was both IDed and asked to pay money for a whiskey. I told them to stuff themselves. I only flew AA because it was the cheapest flight. If you have a choice at all, avoid the US carriers. Everyone else will give you as much free booze as you want as long as you look over 16 or tell them that you are old enough.

    60. Re:Heathrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed, the one country universally acknowledged as having worse food than even the UK.

    61. Re:Heathrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why?!

    62. Re:Heathrow by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      That sounds VERY familiar!

      Add to that - I have experienced the courtesy from Air France to be offered the service of a hotel with ants on the table and rooms looking like they were rented by the hour.

      Just because they failed on calculating the transit time.

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    63. Re:Heathrow by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      42.

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    64. Re:Heathrow by ryanov · · Score: 1

      I flew last internationally on United in 2005. I must have just missed it. I flew international on Delta 6 months ago but it was a short flight that didn't "feel" international so I guess I didn't notice.

  29. Various stuff by paradigm82 · · Score: 1

    There's a big Science Museum (I think it is just called that) which is nice to see. If you're into war-stuff, go to to the Imperial War Museum. In the old days I used to go to Tottanham Court Road to buy electronics and computer games - they always had much cooler stuff than you could get here (Denmark). But now that all this stuff has become much more mainstream it's not that exciting. Just a lot of small electronics shops. You might consider going to Greenwich (easy to get to from London) to see the Greenwich Meridian and lots of associated museums. It's a UNESCO World Heritage Site btw. Other trips could be Oxford or Windsor. I think you can also do a tour to Stonehenge but I haven't tried that myself. If you're into high street shopping, Regent Street (starting at Picadilly Circus) and Oxford Street (which intersects RS) are the places to go. Of course, Harrods (Knightsbridge) is a must too :) Be sure to bring an umbrella or buy one there - always raining ;) Be sure to go to their many great pubs and clubs. Since I'm gay I mostly went to those places (in the area around Old Compton Street) but otherwise I think they are passing flyers around at the evening in the area around Picadilly Circus, so you can see what is going on.

    1. Re:Various stuff by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Greenwich is in London :) Apart from that, though, spot-on. Aaah the old days of Tottenham Court Road. It's still a good place if you want to buy electronics cheaply and quickly - the shops will usually give a considerable discount for cash.

    2. Re:Various stuff by paradigm82 · · Score: 1

      Right, thanks for the correction. Yes I guess you can still make good deals there. In the old days I went there for C64 stuff :P There's also still the Virgin Megastore that have tons of records (Tower of Records is closed as far as I remember) :) I've been to London tons of times and there was always lots of stuff to do and see.

    3. Re:Various stuff by LizardKing · · Score: 1

      Virgin Megastore is long gone. Became "Zavvi" once it was no longer allowed to use the Virgin brand, and then went bust a couple of years ago. It was always a poor alternative to HMV further up the road anyway.

    4. Re:Various stuff by raju1kabir · · Score: 1

      Aaah the old days of Tottenham Court Road. It's still a good place if you want to buy electronics cheaply and quickly - the shops will usually give a considerable discount for cash.

      The original poster is traveling from the USA. Most items will cost 50% more on Tottenham Court Road than he can get online with overnight delivery at home.

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  30. London = Costly... but you know that, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    London is one of the more costly cities on the planet.

    (People who work there can't always afford to live near it,
    necessitating long commutes, in crowded public xportation.)

    Why not enjoy Skype in a SkypePhone (video included,
    unlike in AU, where only ver 1 SkypePhones work...)?

    If Skype's not your choice, I'd go with something that
    fits into my shirt pocket, out of sight from those who
    might like to mug me for it... even though the security
    cameras out number stray cats there (or so I'm told...).

    There's lots to see in London, so... why not try "cold-
    turkey" (eg, just a large-screen cell.phone for eMail)?

    My 2 centavos

  31. PSU by Polkyb · · Score: 1

    Make sure that your power brick is capable of 90-230V. I can't tell you the amount of visitors from the US I have had wander up to me and ask to borrow a UK PSU It's because they just changed the power lead to the PSU and didn't spot that it was rated at 90-120V. Once the magic smoke escapes, there's no other option than to buy a new one.

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    1. Re:PSU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      In the spirit of some of the other travel "advice" that's been offered here, I should point out that the UK mains voltage is actually 12V, so you don't need an adapter at all. Just cut the cable off your existing power brick and wire it straight into one of our plugs. The three pins are E (enable), N (negative) and L (laptop power). Be sure to use a 13 Amp fuse as very high currents are needed at such low voltages.

  32. Your wireless and power supply will work by Tolaris · · Score: 1

    You don't have to change your wireless region, it will likely just work (few use channels 12 and 13 here anyway).

    Just get a plug adaptor for your laptop. The power supply for most laptops supports 100-240 VAC, 50-60 Hz. If unsure, read the label on it.

  33. Some more geeky places to visit by Neil_Brown · · Score: 1

    Bletchley Park - within striking distance of London - the war-time code breaking centre.

    Science Musuem - I was actually disappointed last time I visited the telecommunications exhibit, but the computation and maths exhibits are fascinating.

    Natural History Musem - even if just to see the huge dinosaur in the entrance hall, which amazes me every time.

    Greenwich - depends on your geekiness, but, you might enjoy visiting the Prime Meridian, in the courtyard of the Royal Observatory

    1. Re:Some more geeky places to visit by edjs · · Score: 1

      Tip: when speaking to the customs/immigration officer, do not use the phrase "within striking distance."

    2. Re:Some more geeky places to visit by Neil_Brown · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nor say that you hope to have a blast in London.

  34. As somebody who moved Toronto to London recently by Malc · · Score: 5, Informative

    Where are you staying? If it's a secure place, then bring your laptop for when you're "at home" for planning your day, photos, etc. There are tons of coffee shops and even pubs with wireless, sometimes free. Personally though, I leave it at home and just carry a camera, A-Z and a Lonely Planet guide (along with a small but wind resistant umbrella, etc), but I can see the benefit to being able to check google maps and the TFL. BTW, tfl.gov.uk will be your best friend at figuring out how to get between any places, especially considering that large parts of the Tube close at the weekends for engineering works. Having a laptop with me around always ways on my mind due to the risk of it being stolen - yes, one of my work colleagues had his bag (containing work laptop) stolen from under a table six of us were sitting around, in a pub in Soho.

    Other than that, get out an enjoy yourself. London is a walking city, even in December when the daylight is limited and it can be blustery and wet. One of my favourite walks is from parliament, down the South Bank to the Tower: London Eye, South Bank, Tate Modern, Southwark Cathedral, The Globe, St. Paul's Cathedral, Borough Market, City Hall, Tower Bridge, etc. Greenwich is ace. You can get a Soho walking tour from Trafalgar square. The Royal Parks are awesome. There are tons of little villages that have been over-run by London growing outwards. Then there are more free museums and galleries than you can shake a stick at, and always a trusty pub nearby when you want a break.

  35. Take your laptop, you'll be thankfull you did by kaptink · · Score: 1

    If your after internet access around London, you can pick up a prepaid USB 3G modem from the local shops (Tescos, etc) and you should find they sell a decent range of geek goods and supplies, some supermarkets even sell laptops, etc. Internet cafes are not something I've seen a lot of but I havent really looked to be honest. I'd bring your laptop (I brought both of mine and use them ever day) You'll should find a few open wireless networks around the place. I haven't been anywhere yet that I haven't been able to borrow some internets. I bought a linksys wrt54gs and put ddwrt on it to use as a personal ap bridge in my apartment. It works a treat. For gettings around it's worth buying a GPS, tomtom, etc as the city is a bit of a maze. If you've got an iPhone, you could run tomtom on it. Bookmark journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk as its very handy for planing trips on public transport (works great via WAP). If you need some converters for your power adapters (most are 100-240v), you can pick them up for a few dollars off ebay. I bought two packs of 5 for about $10. Have fun.

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  36. i don't know about this british museum place by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Funny

    but london does have the seventh-busiest greyhound canada terminal in terms of passengers

    perhaps you meant to say you wanted to visit the university of western ontario?

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    1. Re:i don't know about this british museum place by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      I had the opposite problem, I assumed that this was his itinerary.

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    2. Re:i don't know about this british museum place by prograde · · Score: 1

      Canada is overseas, right?

    3. Re:i don't know about this british museum place by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

      if you want to think of the great lakes as great seas, then yes, i can see where you are getting that idea: they are beautiful majestic bodies of water after all

      but i'm sorry to inform you that technically canada is overlakes, not overseas

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  37. Visit England too if you can by Tepic++ · · Score: 1

    London and England are almost two different places (I'm a Brit who loves both). Depending on how long you're going, I'd recommend a day trip to England proper. Immediately west of London there is a lot of accessible, beautiful country side, villages and great pubs (it's a wealthy part of the country), and its easy to get to by train (although for those pubs a car is better). Winchester is a beautiful city and is about 1 1/4 hours by train, Windsor & Eton are more tourist orientated, but also beautiful places and even closer.

    Train tickets and timetables: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/

    1. Re:Visit England too if you can by backwardMechanic · · Score: 1

      Good advice, I'll second that. Go to Oxford (not sure it counts as England either, but it's a fun place with good pubs) - regular bus or train from London. If you go, go and see the Pitt Rivers museum for a very random collection of all that is human.

    2. Re:Visit England too if you can by boristhespider · · Score: 1

      Actually I was about to advise Cambridge instead of Oxford until you mentioned the Pitt Rivers museum.

      Now I want to get back to Oxford. I've not been in the Pitt Rivers since I was 10 or 11.

  38. Prepaid 3G by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For internet access you're probably best of getting a local prepaid sim card, a usb modem can also be obtained fairly cheaply if you don't have gear compatible with the local networks.

    Hotels and public internet cafes will probably charge you the same for one hour of access as you can get for a months access from any mobile network.

    The local providers are Three, Vodafone, T-Mobile and O2. Last time I checked Three had the best pricing for prepaid access.

  39. Buy A Pay As You Go Phone Here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It will cost you £6.95 for an entry level Samsung phone when you buy £10 of calling credit at Car Phone Warehouse http://carphonewarehouse.com. They are located on any high street (street in any town with lots of shops). You can choose a SIM for whatever network you like. There are options for calling the States for 5p a minute (on the Orange network I believe). You will save so much money by not trying to use your US phone in the UK. I seriously don't know why CPW doesn't have people selling phones at the airport baggage terminal. It would be a public service.

  40. Plenty to do by Crookdotter · · Score: 1

    Science museum and natural history museum are good days out. You can probably do both in a day. Bletchley park as above is a great one to do, although it's a bit sparse through lack of funds.

    Just don't advertise you're american by wearing shorts, a loud shirt and a baseball cap. When on the first day out, look at other people and then dress like them for the rest of the journey

    And the best piece of advice is DO NOT SAY YOU ARE AN AMERICAN. Remember - you are a CANADIAN. This will serve you well to avoid problems. :)

    1. Re:Plenty to do by paradigm82 · · Score: 1

      Oh you mean he should dress up like all the chavs (I believe you call it?) you see everywhere on the streets? ;) I'm sure his normal clothes will be fine :)

    2. Re:Plenty to do by nyctopterus · · Score: 1

      Actually, since the election, Americans are rather popular. However, if you don't want "isn't it great the nightmare's over and isn't Obama dreamy" conversations with everyone you meet, saying you're Canadian might mitigate this (somewhat).

    3. Re:Plenty to do by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      "And the best piece of advice is DO NOT SAY YOU ARE AN AMERICAN. Remember - you are a CANADIAN. This will serve you well to avoid problems. :)"

      I spent five weeks driving 3500km around the UK staying at pubs and B&B's, from London to Orkney to the west coast of Ireland it was a great experience and the people were with few exceptions warm and friendly, that is after I explained my accent is Australian not American.

      However I did see an american tourist walk away unharmed after getting up and doing a riverdance in an Irish pub, he was very, very good and earned a round of applause for being brave enough to admit he was american. Great pub, held about 100 people, the owner spent most the night playing the accordian and calling locals up on stage to do their thing. Spending a few hours in a pub like that it's easy to see why such a small island has produced more than it's fair share of great musicians.

      Oh and the scenery down the west coast of Scotland is some of the most spectacular I have ever seen. The road trip from John-O-Groats to the Isle of Sky is not a particularly long distance trip by Aussie standards but it took me two days, you've got to watch out for the sheep because there are no fences and I can only assume that two way traffic was a novelty when the road was built. Having said that replacing it with a modern road would be akin to vandalisim.

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    4. Re:Plenty to do by Homburg · · Score: 1

      after I explained my accent is Australian not American.

      Did anyone mistake you for an American? I would be surprised if many British people couldn't tell the difference between an Australian and American accent.

    5. Re:Plenty to do by mjwx · · Score: 1

      And the best piece of advice is DO NOT SAY YOU ARE AN AMERICAN. Remember - you are a CANADIAN. This will serve you well to avoid problems. :)

      Don't bother, we can tell you're not Canadian by the perplexed look on your face when dealing with things like millilitres and kilometres.

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  41. London Deathrow by lobiusmoop · · Score: 0

    Don't expect too much from London Heathrow Airport. Let's just say it isn't one of the top airports in the world, especially given the recent (and rumored ongoing) terminal 5 fiasco. It has the nickname 'London Deathrow' for a reason.

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    1. Re:London Deathrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been through terminal 5 several times in the last year, and it's been an absolute pleasure (and visual marvel) every time.

    2. Re:London Deathrow by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      I work for a French company and visitors we had around that time were for some stupid reason being routed from Paris to Melbourne via Heathrow. We just sent them to the local shopping centre to buy more clothes, bags, etc. Very simple really. In fact its probably cheaper to travel that way in the future and not go to the trouble of having your stuff lost in the UK.

    3. Re:London Deathrow by dguaraglia · · Score: 1

      Well, never had a problem at Heathrow, and I've used terminal 4 and 5 several times over the last few years. Yup, I suppose there were hiccups with the baggage handling when Term 5 opened, but that has been solved. The coffee shops on the departure area suck though.

    4. Re:London Deathrow by baker_tony · · Score: 1

      You obviously haven't been through T5 at Heathrow in the past year. It's awesome now. The opening was appalling, but they've totally transformed reliability and speed since then.

    5. Re:London Deathrow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you arrive at Heathrow, you'll come into Terminals 3, 4 or 5, depending on the airline you're flying with.

      Heathrow Terminals 1 and 2 -- which were the *really* grotty old bits -- are now closed (the last flights went through T2 a few days ago). They will be replaced by a new T6 complex, though don't expect that to be built any time soon. Once T6 is built, expect T3 to be closed shortly afterward as well.

      Terminal 5 is brand new (ie a couple of years old), and is actually quite a decent airport terminal. The issues mentioned by the parent were basically a complete baggage handling fiasco when the terminal was opened. These issues were resolved but left a very bitter taste, and people are still angry about it. The rumours of continued problems are not correct, though of course baggage can and does go missing regularly at every airport in the world, so don't take anything for granted.

      Terminal 4 is somewhat bleak 1980's airport building which could probably also do with being replaced, but for the time being we'll just have to be grateful they're doing something about T1,2 and 3.

      Once at Heathrow, there are slow tube trains which will take you about 40 minutes to get to central London, or more expensive mainline trains which will take 15 minutes. But the mainline trains only go to Paddington station, so if your hotel is not in that area you'll need to catch a tube from there anyway.

      The tubes trains make it fairly easy to navigate the city. As a visitor, I'd recommend avoiding the buses, simply because it's a lot harder to know where you're going and when you've got there. Oh, and don't even think about hiring a car and driving in London -- it's insanely congested, difficult to navigate, parking is difficult and expensive, and there is a "congestion charge" which means you'll pay a hefty fee each day just to drive in the city.

    6. Re:London Deathrow by 1s44c · · Score: 1

      Steak at 'plane food' is awesome and so is the apple and blackberry crumble :)

  42. Get "The Geek Atlas" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All sorts of places to visit in London. Good book with other places all over the world but there are quite a few in London.

  43. Science museum by laughing_badger · · Score: 1

    One must-see for a geek trip to London has to be the Science Museum http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/visitmuseum.aspx

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  44. Stay quiet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tips? How about don't call it "merry old England"...

    And for that matter, don't talk loudly to everyone. I know this is a stereotype of American travellers, but it holds true far too often. Most American's I know in London do the intelligent thing and keep their head down.

    As for places to go, St Paul's is always worth a look, while you are there walk along the river towards the London Eye (you have to cross for the better side)

  45. As Hoffnung advised... by lingu1st · · Score: 1

    Be sure to try the echo in the Reading Room of the British Library, and for out of hours relaxation, you can spot a brothel by the blue light above the entrance.

    1. Re:As Hoffnung advised... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      I thought that was a public toilet?

    2. Re:As Hoffnung advised... by digitig · · Score: 1

      I have that classic Oxford Union address on a vinyl single -- it was "All London brothels display a blue lamp". Also "Ignore all 'right' and 'left' signs: they are merely political slogans".

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  46. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by Malc · · Score: 1

    I got distracted by somebody and hit submit before I finished. Anyway, don't worry about pissing around with wireless regions. My work laptop cannot configured for anything other than the US, which means no ability to connect to anything configured for channels 12 and 13. I've yet to have a problem (except when I configured the wireless router at the office for channel 13).

    And how did I forget to mention the performing arts? You can spend hours just looking through listings of musicals. There are more theatres just in the West End than there are in some countries.

  47. Bletchley + Faraday museum + Greenwich by sagman · · Score: 1

    Bletchley Park, which has gotten plenty of Slashdot coverage over the years, is a must. It's just an hour north on the train and a short walk from the train station. Go to Euston Station for the ride north.

    The Faraday Museum http://www.londondrum.com/cityguide/faraday-museum.php is worth the trip.

    Greenwich Observatory and the National Maritime Museum are musts, as well. http://www.nmm.ac.uk/
    You may want to read Dava Sobel's book about John Harrison before you go, if you haven't already. See the real H* clocks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harrison

    Take the laptop.

  48. Museums by zoeblade · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Natural History Museum and Science Musuem are practically next door to each other, and are both essential to any good trip to London. Google Maps link

  49. British Museum by jolyonr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't forget the British Museum recently* split into two, the British Museum, and the Natural History Museum - which used to be the British Museum (Natural History). The British Museum, which houses things such as the mummys, Elgin marbles, Rosetta stone and various other things we stole from around the world during our colonial past, is in Holborn, pretty central in London, and the Natural History Museum, with dinosaurs, big stuffed blue whale and a fabulous mineral and gemstone collection is in South Kensington, right next to the Science Museum (as mentioned previously) and Victoria and Albert museum.

    Entrance to all of these is free. Some special exhibits need payment however (usually temporary ones).

    When you get to the airport, as long as you're not feeling too lazy, don't try to get a taxi to London, it'll cost you $80 or more (it's a long way). Go to the underground, get an Oyster card with (say) £20 of credit on it (you'll have to ask at the manned ticket office for this), that works for all your underground and bus travel in London, much simpler and quicker than using cash. You can top it up if you run out (you can check your balance at the station or register online to top it up automatically).

    Have fun!

    Jolyon

    * - in 1881. That's recently for us Europeans!

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    1. Re:British Museum by jittles · · Score: 1

      Why not just get a one way ticket into the inner ring and then pay for a week ticket for the inner two zones? Isn't that cheaper? Or do they not offer the week ticket anymore?

      Also, if you're going to go anywhere like Edinburgh or Stonehenge, I highly recommend you book your tour BEFORE you leave the states. I paid $200 to take a train to Edinburgh with admission to all the museums + the bus tour. Just to buy a train ticket to Edinburgh was going to run me 200 pound sterling once I was there. Thank God I was able to VPN back to my work and purchase my ticket "from the US."

    2. Re:British Museum by jittles · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah and bring some travel tissues. The underground is a very dusty place and I was blowing black snot out of my nose for a week after I moved on to other parts of the country.

    3. Re:British Museum by IndieKid · · Score: 1

      There are dispensers where you can buy Oyster cards in a lot of the tube stations (think they're £3 or so). Some flights also sell them on the way in these days with pre-loaded credit.

      The card will work on the tube, buses and a lot of the national rail services within London - national rail services going out of London are a bit of minefield pricing wise so you're better off asking at the station for the cheapest fair at the time you are travelling.

      The cheapest way to get around London is to buy a 7 day travelcard and have it loaded onto the Oyster card at the machine/kiosk, you probably only need zone 1 depending on where you're staying.

      (P.S. I would agree with visiting the British Museum and the Science Museum; the National History Museum is an amazing building and the dinosaurs are cool but the rest of the exhibits are a bit boring, however it's next door to the Science Museum and they're all free so you might as well stick your head round the door.)

    4. Re:British Museum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you can get an oyster card from a vending machine for a £3 deposit (which you can get back at the end afaik) - these work by RFID so you just toutch at one of the screens on the yellow circle to add cash (or "top up") - I would start as above with about £20 - but keep it as safe as real cash cause oiks love to steal them

    5. Re:British Museum by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      Go to the underground, get an Oyster card with (say) £20 of credit on it (you'll have to ask at the manned ticket office for this)

      Or order it online and have it sent to you in advance:

      http://visitorshop.tfl.gov.uk/english.htm

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    6. Re:British Museum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cost of most journeys on public transport is considerably cheper if you use an Oyster Card rather than paying cash (upto 50%)

    7. Re:British Museum by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      I've heard that the black snot is caused by street-level exhaust fumes.

    8. Re:British Museum by serveto · · Score: 1

      The National Gallery in Trafalgar Square is also free, probably the best single collection of European Art up to the start of the 20th Century. If you've got time take a day trip to Paris on Eurostar.

    9. Re:British Museum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, what? Don't talk about something if you clearly know nothing about it.

      The British Museum and the *South Kensington* Museum were always different things. The *South Kensington* Museum split, in *1871*, into the V&A, Science and Natural History Museums.

    10. Re:British Museum by jittles · · Score: 1

      Its possible. I've had the same issue both times I've been to Paris as well. I have not had the issue while in Munich or Amsterdam.

  50. Take one US powerboard, and 1 one only UK adapter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...

  51. Don't bother by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    London is a dank, seething cesspool of filth. The tube system is full of tramps, smells of urine, and is the best place to get a venereal disease without any of the difficult issues of actually making contact with anyone.

    I recommend going to Blackpool instead. Much more classy.

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    1. Re:Don't bother by Karem+Lore · · Score: 1

      This should be marked funny...

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    2. Re:Don't bother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately there is a problem...
      Us Brits are posting these comments, thus foregoing our moderation privileges for this story.
      As nobody else shares our unique sense of humour, these comments are causing confusion and being moderated incorrectly.
      Our only hope may be moderators from the only other country that may understand our humour - Canada. Go Canada!

    3. Re:Don't bother by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      The Canadians and Australians can't mod because we are all pitching in.

    4. Re:Don't bother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yes, and Australia. Sorry mate!

    5. Re:Don't bother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The tube system is full of tramps, smells of urine, and is the best place to get a venereal disease without any of the difficult issues of actually making contact with anyone.

      Perfect; I'm packing now!

    6. Re:Don't bother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      London is totally awesome, check out Camden Markets.

    7. Re:Don't bother by Inda · · Score: 1

      Tourist.

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    8. Re:Don't bother by operator_error · · Score: 1

      Bracknell is nice. There is a pub there also, and it is relatively sunny in contrast to London.

    9. Re:Don't bother by Afty0r · · Score: 1

      As a Sandgrown'un (that's a Blackpudlian - someone from Blackpool!) I can assure you that this comment is indeed "Funny" despite moderations to the contrary... classy, Blackpool is not.

    10. Re:Don't bother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah Blackpool is Just Vegas without the class the Blackjack and hookers. - if he wants a really exciting holiday for a geek he should visit Cumbria Currently hosting wild extreme water sports.

    11. Re:Don't bother by stillnotelf · · Score: 1

      I was reasonably certain Mos Eisley was on Tattooine, or possibly in Tunisia, not England...

  52. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by gclef · · Score: 2, Informative

    A few quick translations for folks who (like the questioner) haven't been to London before:
        A-Z: the street maps of London are a (softcover) book of their own, called the A-Z. You can buy it once you get there. The streets of London can be *very* confusing without an A-Z, so if you're planning to walk around, one of these will be very valuable.
        TFL: Tube for London, aka the subway.

    Personally, I'd recommend the following: If you have enough space on camera memory sticks to do without the laptop, do so. I spent a month in Europe this past summer, and the only tech I brought with me was a camera and an iPod Touch. The Touch allowed me to check mail/websites/etc and use Skype at various Wifi locations to call whomever I needed to, which realistically was all I needed while on vacation. I also grabbed a multi-country plug adapter that also included a USB power port, and just carried that in my bags (it was quite small). In short, your camera, some extra memory sticks, and a smartphone should be enough to cover what you need...I think the laptop is just extra weight.

    Also, if you're going to be in the UK at the winter solstice, go to Stonehenge that day. Yes, it'll be a madhouse, but that's part of the fun.

  53. Things to do in London... part 52 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Depends what floats your boat, but a few (more) of the historical tourist trail things...
    Tower of London (including the Crown Jewels), The (reconstructed) Globe Theatre, St. Pauls Cathedral, Buckkingham palace, The Palace of Westminster, Tower Bridge (if you can get on a tour of the engine rooms to see the lifting gear), Madame Tussauds is also worth a look.
    Museums: The Natural History, V&A (Victoria and Albert), Science, British Museum all worth a visit. A little further afield there's Bletchley Park (where we invented the computer), Hampden Court, The Imperial War Museum at Duxford and Windsor Castle

    Then there's the whole West End... Soho is a fun place ;) Bear in mind that London at Christmas is a very very busy place (the main shopping ares (Knightsbridge / South Kensington / Oxford Street / Covent Garden / Camden Market can be hell) - and be aware that pickpockets are also very active in all these areas, (unfortunately this is especially true at that time of year).

  54. Taxis by Harold+Halloway · · Score: 1

    Don't forget that it's illegal to tip London cab drivers and you will mortally offend them if you try.

    1. Re:Taxis by csrster · · Score: 1

      Also remember that it is polite to end all requests for assistance with the expression "yawanka" (meaning "if you would be so kind"). As in "Can you tell me the way to the Tower of London, yawanka?".

  55. English by Loki_666 · · Score: 2

    Watch out for sarcasm. I know in the US you guys really have trouble spotting this, but in the UK we have this perfected.

    Also, please dont tell anyone you just love the British accent. It really gets on our nerves, especially as we hate most US accents and can barely tolerate the rest.

    Be prepared to have problems understanding the English of people who work in shops. This is because the % of natives working in shops is close to 0. They are manned by indians, middle easteners, eastern europeans, etc.

    Actually, don't hold too much hope of meeting a native person as london, aside from the aforementioned shop workers, is full of american and oriental tourists. Your best bet during the daytime is trying to talk to someone on the tube, who may just be native, although probably tired and grumpy from living in or communiting to london every day and may just ignore you or tell you to piss off.

    At night time though you can find lots of natives. Males and females are both easy to spot. They are loud and obnoxious and usually quite drunk. Probably best to avoid these. If you spot someone at night who is acting normally and quiet then they may be a terrorist. Report them to the police.

    Do go to soho at night though. Its an enlightening experience. Actually you may feel quiet safe in this area, unlike other areas, although you may get nice looking ladies asking you for the time quiet often. One can only presume there is some sort of time-telling-device shortage in the soho area.

    Do visit Camden market, afternoon or late evening. This is nothing to do with being a geek. Just wander around until some guy offers you to buy something, usually in a small package. Don't worry what it is. Smoke it, eat it, its all good stuff.

  56. Stonehenge and Oxbridge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stonehenge is a must see, as are the two hoary universities. Also Newcastle-upon-Tyne is a geeky science town. Great place to visit with the north sea beaches nearby, and the Loch Ness just 2 hrs from there! All these places can be covered in about 2-3 days ex-London.

    1. Re:Stonehenge and Oxbridge by arethuza · · Score: 1

      Newcastle to Loch Ness in 2-3 hours? More like 6.

  57. Re:One tip by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

    Or at least go in July.

  58. Just take your laptop and go! by Bryce · · Score: 1

    I don't think you need to fuss with region codes or any such. You'll need to change the timezone and that's about it. Since you've posted to slashdot asking whether you should bring your laptop, and used the word 'geek' 3-4 times, er yeah you probably are the type that would go into withdrawl without your laptop. It's a bit of a hassle to drag it around but you'll probably want it. If you have something lightweight like a netbook you'll definitely want it. Get a UK power adapter (AAA or pretty much any electronics store). A laptop is useful for three things while you're traveling: a) planning/researching/arranging tourist stuff, b) uploading photos, c) satisfying your internet/email/gamer addictions. Most hotels will have internet service for some fee. Your call on whether it is worth the money. You might be able to get free wifi from cafe/pub places but don't count on it. The British museum will hold your interest for a day. If you're in London for two weeks, you can probably hit all the major tourist attractions. Get any tourist guide and work your way through it. Once you learn the Tube you can pretty much get anywhere you want. Make sure to go to a play or musical or two even if that's not normally what you're into. Go to at least one castle and one cathedral too. For geek cred, go to the Eye of London and try to think of as many movies as you can that had a scene showing that in it.

  59. Don't Go! by netpixie · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    My top tip is "Stay at home", London is a dump (much like the rest of England) and is not even slightly worth visiting.

    If you really want the experience of traveling to England:

    1) Get your hoover bag, open it, inhale deeply
    2) Go outside, roll around in the mud for a bit
    3) Empty your wallet onto the floor
    4) Get your neighbour to punch you in the face.

    Voila, same outcome, but you've saved yourself some time and an airfare.

    1. Re:Don't Go! by Colourspace · · Score: 1

      Really Netpixie? England (including London) has its faults, like most other places, but it also has a hell of a lot to offer to make up for that. Can we ask where you come from? I can name any number of countries and cities I have visited where I have had negative experiences, but I wouldn't dream of posting my feelings on a public forum like that. Yes, I live in (born and raised) London. You, sir, are a fucking troll.

  60. Bzzzt. Wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels - While the technology is the same, some channels may not be used in certain regions of the world. Also, there are limits on the maximum power level, IIRC. So the OP is correct (regarding the WiFi - for UMTS, you're right)- he should change the region setting in his wireless device to avoid trouble.

    Captcha: regret

    1. Re:Bzzzt. Wrong. by umberto_soprano · · Score: 1

      he should change the region setting in his wireless device to avoid trouble.

      my wireless device (laptop) has no region setting !?

  61. Where to start by Karem+Lore · · Score: 2, Informative

    You have:

    London Tate Gallery
    British Museum
    British Library
    British Science Museum
    British Natural History Museum
    London Dungeons
    London Eye
    London Aquarium
    Madame Tussauds
    SOHO (just roaming around late at night)
    Wembley Stadium for a match or gig if one is on.
    River Thames Boat trip.
    The Tower of London
    Visit the Houses of Parliament
    Shakespear Globe tour
    Royal Opera House
    National Gallery
    National Maritime Museum

    The list goes on: http://www.visitlondon.com/

    Just a word of advice, if you are going for 2 weeks and are relying on the underground, look into getting an Oyster card. This will save you money on using the tube: https://oyster.tfl.gov.uk/oyster/entry.do

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    1. Re:Where to start by csrster · · Score: 1
      + the Old Royal Observatory at Greenwich (next to the Maritime Museum, anyway)
      + Gawking at Buckingham Palace
      + day trips to Paris, Oxford, Cambridge, and Edinburgh.

      That should keep him busy.

      Is there other more obscure geek stuff? What about the Royal Institution?

    2. Re:Where to start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you could try getting a life and not taking it with you. It might be fun taking in the sights and sounds of a new place without being tethered to technology for a change.

    3. Re:Where to start by Fishy · · Score: 1

      Remove:
      London Dungeons
      Madame Tussauds

      Total dumps, an embarrassment to London.

      Add in the great fire of london memorial , http://www.themonument.info/ .

      Also remember to combine things, so for Greenwich for instance get the boat down from Westminster Pier

    4. Re:Where to start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Buy a guide book. Any of the sites listed can burn off an entire day.
      2. Make sure your phone will work in Europe. Verizon does not.
      3. Become familar with the Tube. London's subway is excellent and takes you close to nearly everything.
      4. London is densely packed with buildings, people and vehicles. Please be aware of your surroundsing and be considerate.
      5. Try to find the unique things about London. No where else does the Westmister Catherdal, London Tower, or Tate Museum exist.
      6. Remeber to be aware of your surroundings. You are not at home and London has a criminal element. Favorite pickpocket location: the Rosetta Stone in the British Museum. Pickpockets usually go after people not aware of their surroundings and overly focused on the exhibits. By the way, pickpockets are cheap by nature, so they don't go to places that charge an entrance fee.

    5. Re:Where to start by ocularsinister · · Score: 1
      People are going to think I'm miserable old git* as all my posts are what *not* to see...

      ...but the Globe is a total rip off. Its only 10 years old, has no roof (not good in winter!) and is in a location unlikely to have had a Shakespearean theatre. Go see some proper theatre instead - the nearby Southbank Centre or Barbican Centre often have good plays, including Shakespeare - but don't waste your money at the Globe!

      * I am NOT a goth! *pouts*

  62. British Library by mencial · · Score: 1

    British Museum is my favourite, but 15 min walk away is the British Library (by St Pancras Station). Their "Treasures Room" has some seriously cool books and manuscripts, which you can see in one hour.

  63. Things you should know... by DeathToBill · · Score: 1

    [sad shake of the head] Americans...

    No, London is a very backward place, on about the same level as rural Kenya, only colder. Internet access is essentially unheard of, and the power is only on for about three hours most days. It comes at some strange voltage, and switch-mode power supplies have been banned to try to discourage immigrants. You can get plug adaptors on the black market, try late at night in St James' Park, but it won't help with your voltage problem. About your only option is to sneak into a copper mine to steal some ore, refine it, beat it into wire using rocks and manufacture your own power supply. Hot top - the foil from cigarette packs is good for making your own capacitors! Once you've done that, getting internet access means laying your own cable from the good 'ol US of A - I'd suggest coming by ship, as the airlines are a bit touchy about running the cable out of the door at altitude, and at 450 miles per hour the quality of the bearings on the drum gets important. Don't even bother with wireless - that's been banned, too, as people might try to use it to find out information about immigration.

    If you hang out in the wrong sorts of places, you might get to hear about a thing called the 'Tube'. It's a bit like a bunch of pipes, and is the nearest the locals get to the Internet. Interfacing your laptop to it can be a real problem, though. Locals suggest Ruby might be a good option to try, also something about seafood. YMMV.

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    1. Re:Things you should know... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Always wear a backpack when taking the tube and rug up against the cold. Make sure you run the last ten metres or so on to the train, especially if there is a bit of a commotion going on.

    2. Re:Things you should know... by arethuza · · Score: 1

      Sorry, lol, but that is just plain nasty, lol.

  64. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by Malc · · Score: 1

    Clarification: the "T" in "TFL" means "Transport", not "Tube". And the advice for visitors is to get an Oyster card immediately: it saves huge amounts of money, and works everywhere - just announced are the Thames Clippers, and next year, an extension out further to cover all of the commuter rail services.

  65. 0.000000000 etc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can go to Greenwich, there is a small, but interesting science museum, and you can get your GPS to show 0.0000000.

    They just opened the Darwin Centre in the Natural history museum: definitely worth a visit.

    There is free wireless access in many places (if you order a coffee, but you want one anyway)

  66. Other tips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tips:
    Be careful with what stuff you take with you and what souvenirs you intend to take back; differences in import/export restrictions, etc.
    Be prepared for the fact that most Brits cannot cook.
    Expect to not figure out exactly when to cross the street until your last day there.
    Put buying an umbrella at the top of your todo list.
    Get off the beaten track. The nicest places are those other tourists don't go.
    Keep in mind that London, the tourist attraction, has little to do with what the rest of the country is like.
    If you're tall, get ready for some bumps on the head. Some old buildings weren't designed with you in mind.
    Try to locate a pharmacists on your first day. In case of minor medical issues, they're a good place to ask for advice.
    Oh! Don't forget, to them, you're the one with an accent.

    Hope that helps.

    1. Re:Other tips by digitig · · Score: 1

      Put buying an umbrella at the top of your todo list.

      Don't. It will get blown inside-out and ruined the first time you need it. A cagoule (or, since this is a geek trip, an anorak) is far more practical.

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  67. Immunization by seyyah · · Score: 1

    Don't forget to get you and your computer immunized against those nasty viruses which are rampant in foreign countries like the United Kingdom.

  68. Minor correction by Nursie · · Score: 1

    TFL - Transport for London

    It covers buses and overground trains in the London area too. Their website - tfl.gov.uk - has quite a useful journey planner on it.

  69. Get an Oyster card by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Makes it easier and cheaper to use the buses and tubes than buying tickets as you go. You can get one sent to you in the US before you go - http://visitorshop.tfl.gov.uk/english/introduction.htm

    Also, you might find wifi access expensive, especially in hotels. A friend of mine found it cheaper to buy a pay-as-you-go mobile broadband modem, even though she was staying just for the week. 3 do good deals - shops all over the place.

  70. Oyster card & Cryptographic keys by auric_dude · · Score: 1

    The oyster card is a means of prepaying for public transport, use it to purchase tickets after 9:30 as these are much cheaper as being considered off peak travel and are valid on bus, train and subway travel http://www.tfl.gov.uk/. Also remember to pack all your encryption keys as you never know when border guards way wish to view what is on your laptop and to not surrender such keys when requested by the authorities may well ruin your vacation http://security.homeoffice.gov.uk/ripa/encryption/

  71. Sorry to disappoint... by djkitsch · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...but the Planetarium closed down a few years ago. It was turned into a "celebrity cinema" bit of Madame Tussauds, showing showbiz movies. Philistines.

    However, the Greenwich Observatory has their own, new planetarium - it's brand new, and right by the Greenwich Meridian:

    http://www.nmm.ac.uk/visit/planetarium-shows/

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    1. Re:Sorry to disappoint... by VShael · · Score: 1

      I've been to the Greenwich Observatory planetarium. And it's rubbish, to be honest. Aimed at kids who know nothing about anything.

      The rest of the Observatory, including the museum, is much better. Plus, Greenwich is a lovely town to spend the day in, and you can get a boat ride back up to Thames towards Westminister very cheap.

      Also, Greenwich is the only place where you can walk under the Thames. And that's pretty cool.

    2. Re:Sorry to disappoint... by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      Is there a line in the Planetarium that says 'On this spot is the GMT line' or something, so if you take a photo on the West side of it, you could say," Look Honey I traveled back in time, but only a couple of seconds"

      Kind of like the Four Corners I think it's called, that we have here in the US.

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    3. Re:Sorry to disappoint... by digitig · · Score: 1

      Is there a line in the Planetarium that says 'On this spot is the GMT line' or something, so if you take a photo on the West side of it, you could say," Look Honey I traveled back in time, but only a couple of seconds"

      Kind of like the Four Corners I think it's called, that we have here in the US.

      Yes there is. There's one on a public footpath that runs along the north perimiter of the observatory, which is free to access but cramped for photographs. If you pay to go into the observatory (strongly recommended!) there's a much more photogenic one in the courtyard. The obervatory is in Greenwich Park which has great views across the river and is a popular spot for family picnics on summer weekends. The Greenwich Maritime Museum is just a stone's throw away from there, and is good too if you're interested in naval history.

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    4. Re:Sorry to disappoint... by oh2 · · Score: 1

      Agree, the Observatory and the collection of chronometers and other old navigation paraphernalia is an interesting experience, plus its always nice to be able to say that you have stood on the zero meridian :)

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  72. Imperial War Museum by bazorg · · Score: 1

    The Science museum is good but probably more interesting for kinds than for adults, I prefer spending more time in the Natural History museum. Take some time to visit the Imperial War Museum and the Movieum on the South Bank. For a 2 week trip I wouldn't bother with carrying the laptop, just bring extra memory cards for your camera. Join any hospitality Club meeting in London, there's always someone happy to be your tour guide.

  73. some ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maplin http://maplin.co.uk/ is an equivalent to Radio Shack and should have UK plug adaptors in stock if your laptop can take UK voltage.

    A list of free wi-fi is available at: http://www.timeout.com/london/features/6187/Where_to_find_free_wi-fi_in_London.html. My favorite is the Wellcome Collection http://www.wellcomecollection.org/.

    The Wellcome Collection is also an amazing museum if you're at all into medical history. And if you're really into biology (read as thousands of specimen jars), the Hunterian Museum from the Royal College of Surgeons http://www.rcseng.ac.uk/museums was unlike any thing I've seen. Of course the museums near South Kensington (Natural History, Science) are great bets. The nearby Victoria and Albert is nice as well with "functional art", including all kinds of centuries-old locks (including one or two wooden ones).

    Avoid the British Museum on the weekends, and particularly the Egyptian section, as it is mobbed.

    If you're in the area and into old engineering and/or trains, take a walk around the recently refurbished St. Pancras train station.

    Really off the beaten path is mud-larking. You can walk out onto the Thames shoreline at low tide and look for old finds. We've found Roman glass and centuries-old leather. There's a high chance that you'd find 18th century china shards. A good place to go is the area around the Tate Modern on the south shore- stairs will lead down to the beach. You need to be able to tolerate the occasional drunk harassment, wear gloves, and please don't dig holes.

  74. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by dave420 · · Score: 1

    TFL = Transport for London, the public transport people. Not just the tube, but the buses, some surface trains, ferries, etc.

  75. sit in hotel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sit in hotel and wank. wank hard you wanker! ill watch you to make sure you are doing it right.

  76. Yes and no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Leave the laptop home, and you'll have more time to pay attention to the sight and places.

    On the other hand, leave the laptop home and you'll have a hard time catalogueing your experiences each evening. I'm not from the States, but the last time I went to Manchester (2006, I believe), I took my EU laptop with me -- all I had to do once in the UK was to buy an adapter from a store in Manchester and I was ready to geek it out... too bad I had no internet connection to speak of. :P Nonetheless, I enjoyed the ability to make my own notes about what I'd done on whichever day. I posted it on LJ and still have the file on my current desktop computer's hard drive for old times' sake.

    I rather think WiFi should work easily enough, it's just the matter of voltages...

  77. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TFL is Transport for London, they cover Underground, Overground, Docklands Light Railway, Busses, River Cruisers etc.

  78. The National History Museum by idji · · Score: 1

    Don't miss it! It has a new Darwin Centre with the Cocoon. You can watch scientists at work and talk to them. And it is free.

  79. Remember security by AK+Marc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you elect to not take your laptop so that you are typing passwords in on someone else's computer, make sure to change all your passwords before you go. When you get back, change them back. You never know if there is a keylogger or other such things, and so make sure to treat every computer as hostile.

    1. Re:Remember security by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      What I did when travelling and using Internet cafés was to take a USB drive with Putty and an RSA key which required a passphrase. About 50% of the places I tried it* allowed me to run Putty from the drive, and a keylogger would have to also copy the key from the drive or from memory. Not perfect, but better than relying solely on passwords.

      If you want to be fancy you could also use a cron script to change your authorized_keys every 12 hours - just make sure to take the time zone into account when working out which key to use.

      * This was in Ecuador in 2005, so it can't necessarily be extrapolated

    2. Re:Remember security by EricX2 · · Score: 1

      What I did the last time I traveled... USB key with keylogger. Waited for a local person to use it, then used their login. Confused my friends on facebook and twitter for the first few days. :)

  80. Buy the Time Out Guide to London by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Time Out Travel Guides helped me tremendously to plan and enjoy my trips to a lot cities I've been to.

    http://www.amazon.com/Time-Out-London-Guides/dp/184670071X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1259062585&sr=8-1

  81. You can take your laptop with you by ra1stlin · · Score: 3, Informative

    As far as I know the channels that change between regions in Wireless cards are the extremes, so you don’t have to have problems to connect to the majority of wireless Access points without changing anything.

    For electricity voltage you have a change to take into account, in the USA electricity is 110-120 volts 60Hz, in Europe it is 220 volts 50Hz, so you will need a charger that supports dual voltage or one specific for European electricity.

    My advice, take your laptop with you if you plan to connect to internet every day, it is practically sure the hotel you stay on will have Wireless for clients, or at least you can find hotspots all over London.

    Things to do in London (tourist mode ON)

    • Watch the Changing of the Guard at Buckingham Palace
    • Go to South Bank, here you can see the London Eye, Tate Modern, The Globe Theatre
    • Visit some street markets. The most popular are Camden Market and Portobello Market, following closely by Greenwich Market.
    • Visit Westminster Abbey
    • Visit the Tower of London
    • Visit St Paul’s Cathedral
    • Visit the Tate modern and the National Galleries
    • Visit the British Museum and the Natural History Museum

    NOTES for tourists:

    In England the cars travel in the left lane, remember this when you cross a street

    In England the subway arrives from right to left, not form left to right.

    The average temperature on December is 4C (39F) so Wrap up warm

    London is a city with a lot of places to go, so take your time to search de web and find the ones that are interesting for you.

    1. Re:You can take your laptop with you by LizardKing · · Score: 2, Informative

      In England the subway arrives from right to left, not form left to right.

      There's no fixed rule. On my daily commute, the Jubilee line train arrives from the right at Finchley Road, and from the left at Londonbridge. Your "things to do" list is spot on, but it's also worth pointing out that the museums are free entry.

    2. Re:You can take your laptop with you by csrster · · Score: 0

      Also remember that in England you hail a bus or train by standing _in front of it_ and waving your arms violently up and down.

    3. Re:You can take your laptop with you by uglyduckling · · Score: 1

      I would also add the The Design Museum. Pretty geeky but interesting, and if you have any non-geek companions of either gender they'll probably find this interesting too.

      I lived in London for 4 years, I'm pretty sure it never got as low as 4C during the daytime. It's the inner city, not a field in the country. I think you'll find 4C is the average low which would be the middle of the night. Unless it's a really cold December (which doesn't look likely at the moment) a casual jacket will be fine. I'm in the home counties (Kent) and it was 14C today.

    4. Re:You can take your laptop with you by uglyduckling · · Score: 1

      Don't you have to yell "cor blimey gov'ner" at the same time?

    5. Re:You can take your laptop with you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [QUOTE]In England the subway arrives from right to left, not form left to right.[/QUOTE]

      Tube trains can arrive from either direction. This they do to facilitate easy interchange between different lines that share a common platform (e.g. Hammersmith, Mile End, Whitechapel etc. etc.).

      Indeed, on any one particular journey, it depends on the station layout as to whether the doors will open on the left or right hand side of the train even the platform offers no step-free interchange... e.g. at Holborn Central Line platform, doors open on the opposite side to how they do at adjacent Tottenham Court Rd station.

    6. Re:You can take your laptop with you by nero4wolfe · · Score: 1

      If you're inclined to guided walking tours, I recommend the London Walks organization; http://www.walks.com./ In addition to walking tours of various parts of London, they also have excursion days to Oxford, Cambridge, etc.

    7. Re:You can take your laptop with you by carvell · · Score: 1

      In England the subway arrives from right to left, not form left to right.

      It's random, actually. It could come from any direction, there's no rule.

    8. Re:You can take your laptop with you by hattig · · Score: 1

      No no no, we changed that.

      What we require now is for the hailer to signal to the hailee by standing in front of the approaching people conveyance, one forearm horizontal in front of the chest, the other underneath it pointing to the conveyance you are signalling to, and raise the lower forearm upwards. The more ... aggressive ... this is done, reduces the fee we pay on the conveyance. This is modelled upon nineteenth century railway signalling.

    9. Re:You can take your laptop with you by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      In England the subway arrives from right to left, not form left to right.
      For the simple case of a two track line with platforms each side that is correct. Not all stations are layed out like that though so generally it's better to follow the signs ;).

      --
      note: i'm known as plugwash most places but i screwd up registering that here somehow in the past and now can't register
    10. Re:You can take your laptop with you by CecilSomething · · Score: 1

      In England the subway arrives from right to left, not form left to right.

      There's no fixed rule.

      Very true. I wrote something to the same effect yesterday, but it seems to have vanished...that's what happens when you access slashdot forums from an RSS reader on an iPhone, I guess. There are also many stations that feature same-platform interchanges for different lines, e.g. Mile End, Hammersmith...in which case the train arrives from either direction depending on which line you want. And in any single journey (even without same platform interchanges), tube doors may open on either the right or left side of the train...depending on the station. e.g. Holborn Central Line platform is on the opposite side of the train to the Central line platform of Tottenham Court Rd station. It all depends on the overall architecture of the station, which depends on the number of lines that connect there. Do get an Oyster Card though...it makes things so much easier!

    11. Re:You can take your laptop with you by xaxa · · Score: 1

      In general, trains drive on the left (like cars). This is the same on the London Underground, except there are plenty of cases where they don't to facilitate an easier interchange (e.g. the northbound Northern and Victoria lines at Euston).

  82. Take something that fits in your pocket by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

    that can do some basic internet surfing. Its a lot more convenient than a laptop when you are out and about and want to jump on wifi to quickly check your email(many of the long distance trains in the UK have free wi-fi). Plus you won't get roped into doing work on your vacation.

    It would be even better if your device had some sort of GPS, an open wifi spot and my phone have saved my ass from getting hopelessly lost more times than I care to admit.

  83. What you MUST do in Britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get pissed up on cider.
    Strongbow, Old Rosie, Stowford Press, Blackthorne.

    Just go to the pub and drink a pint.

    Not going to the pub and drinking a pint means you can't claim to have visited the UK.

    1. Re:What you MUST do in Britain by imakemusic · · Score: 1

      Not a bad suggestion, but Strongbow? Blackthorne?! Blaagh!

      --
      Brain surgery - it's not rocket science!
    2. Re:What you MUST do in Britain by jonwil · · Score: 1

      Of course, if you go to a pub and ask for a Beer, they will probably give you something that looks more like Crude Oil than a beverage...

  84. Important advice by MemoryDragon · · Score: 1

    Buy yourself 5 kilos of Marmite..

    1. Re:Important advice by TonyJohn · · Score: 1

      You might want to visit the Marmite shop on Regent Street to try some first. Also sells what must be the cheapest tea in London (£1).

      --
      Owl tried to think of something wise to say, but couldn't.
    2. Re:Important advice by 1s44c · · Score: 1

      Buy yourself 5 kilos of Marmite..

      You don't have Marmite in the US? You are missing out.

  85. Go! by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

    The museums are awesome, out of the rain/snow and heated. London can be a bit crowded for my taste but there are plenty of quiet places indoors.

  86. museums by AndyGasman · · Score: 1

    British Museum, The Tate Modern, The London Eye, The Science Museum and Bletchley Park are all great suggestions. I'd also recommend the natural history museum, Tate Britain, St Paul's cathedral (dome) and the Victorian and Albert Museum. Have a great trip!

  87. Visit the museums on weekdays by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 1

    I also recommend the Science Museum and the Natural History Museum, which are easily accessible by subway. Whether you are bringing kids or not, these two museums alone may require more than a day. We've been to both of them six or eight times, typically spending most of a day in each, but the kids still want to visit again whenever we go to London.

    For maximum enjoyment, plan on visiting the museums on weekdays. They are open also on weekends, but since admission is free (yes!) they can be a little crowded on Saturdays and Sundays. During the week, there are much fewer casual visitors, but there may be a few school groups. They are large buildings with a lot to see at each of them, so it involves a certain amount of walking. The gift shops have some interesting items, but carry a lot of tourist junk as well.

    Also, bring your own snack food - the museum restaurant food is tolerable enough, but service can be slow, and special diets are not handled well. Both museums have areas for eating your own food, and it's possible to picnic outside at the Natural History Museum, depending on the weather. There is usually a supermarket or other place selling decent ready-to-go foods near the subway stations. We usually grab sushi boxes on the way from the hotel to the subway when we go there.

    BTW, if the London weather is mediocre (December, right), the Victoria & Albert museum is also nearby. It is less crowded, and deals with the history of human society. There is a lot of historical clothing, tools, musical instruments, and suchlike.

    --
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
    1. Re:Visit the museums on weekdays by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      There is usually a supermarket or other place selling decent ready-to-go foods near the subway stations.

      Coronation chicken sandwiches.

      Havent been there long enough to find out whats in it, but tastes great.

      --
      bickerdyke
    2. Re:Visit the museums on weekdays by digitig · · Score: 1

      There is usually a supermarket or other place selling decent ready-to-go foods near the subway stations.

      Coronation chicken sandwiches.

      Havent been there long enough to find out whats in it, but tastes great.

      Basically chicken, mayo and curry powder. Up-market versions might add other things like nuts and dried fruit.

      --
      Quidnam Latine loqui modo coepi?
    3. Re:Visit the museums on weekdays by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      ah.. explains why i spotted raisins in there. :-)

      --
      bickerdyke
  88. Go to Trafalgar Square by MemoryDragon · · Score: 1

    And yell: "God shave the queen"

  89. WiFi recommendation + places by dguaraglia · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've used Boingo in the UK (and Brazil, and Argentina, and the US) and can only say good things about them. It seems they have agreements with all major players (like BT, Orange, etc.) so you can use your Boingo account pretty much anywhere in the UK where you see the "WiFi zone". There are sooo many interesting places in London. Some of the not so obvious: - The National Archive - The Victoria and Albert museum - The Sherlock Holmes museum - Abbey Road (if you are into The Beatles) - Greenwich - The Naval museum (in Greenwich) - Newton's (and many others') tomb at the Westminster Abbey - Millions of others I can't recall at the moment Learn to use the Tube, it will take you everywhere you want to go but Greenwich. Also, you can spend a day or two in Cambridge, only 50' away by train from King's Cross, you can pretty much walk everywhere from the station and so many things to see. The Scott Arctic Expedition museum, The Cronophage (although it's *very* disappointing), the colleges and you might even get a glimpse of Stephen Hawking if you are lucky enough (tip: he goes for a tea at the local John Lewis every now and then. That's where I saw him :)) And by Jove, drink some propper beer while you can! Cheers

    1. Re:WiFi recommendation + places by rapiddescent · · Score: 1

      > tube to greenwich

      The DLR (Docklands Light railway is a driverless train system that leaves from Bank (in The City - which is the bit of london where all the financial firms are) and Tower Gateway (next to the tower of london) - take a train headed towards Lewisham and get off at "Cutty Sark" station - the station before Greenwich. It's a nice walk through Greenwich up past the old naval collegde and up the hill to GMT and the museums. Your oyster card will work on it.

      Get a GIF tube map and stick it in your phone.

  90. British hookers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of them seem to actually be Polish, but they don't insist on condoms for oral sex. And their ads online are fairly honest about whether they're British or not: if you can afford a nice upscale one in your hotel room, enjoy.

  91. Important Local Customs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Two Important customs to remember if you want to be welcomed..

    Londoners are always interested in other people's lives. So when using a mobile phone on a bus or train or in a restuarant, always talk load enough for everyone else to listen to your conversation.

    They appreciate that Merkins aren't used to queuing and so they encourage merkins to go straight to the front of the queue..

  92. Cheese Sandwiches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You could get some cheese and put it in your bum-bum?

  93. Netbook by barzok · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you must take a computer with you, get a Netbook on a Black Friday sale deal and just take that. Don't risk your expensive laptop with lots of personal data on it.

    I don't see a need to take one at all, aside from backing up photos from your camera, watching movies, and maybe checking in with family back home. You're on vacation - unplug!

    1. Re:Netbook by supermank17 · · Score: 1

      If you must take a computer with you, get a Netbook

      I heartily concur with this advice. I spent several weeks traveling in England this summer, and lugging around my 13 inch Macbook is not something I'll repeat. Its too heavy, and too valuable, to really feel comfortable carrying around all day. I'd also recommend getting one of the pre-paid HSDPA modem for internet; Wifi (paid more often than not) does exist, but it ends up being about the same cost to get the cellular modem and the modem is far more convenient. Don't plan on using the computer that much though. I found myself only using it at night to look up the location of where I wanted to go next, and to send the occasional e-mail back home. There's far too many other interesting things to do.
      As for transport in and around London, the Oyster card is by far your best bet. The travel / tourist stations in Heathrow can set you up with one, or you can get one at the manned Underground stations. They're cheaper to use than buying tickets on the Underground, although still not cheap (London has one of the most expensive public transit systems in the world). I rarely used the buses; Underground stops are all over the place and I often found that walking was easier (and more fun) when my destination was not directly next to an underground stop. The train system is an excellent way to get around the rest of England (and are another reason to get a cellular modem) and are not terribly expensive. I used them to go on day trips to other cities.
      My final bit of advice is to just take some time to wander around. Its surprising the amount of stuff you can stumble across if you're just walking in London. There's a lot of history there, and some really neat sites. I also recommend trying to find some of the open-air markets; they have some great food and are fun to see.
      Oh yeah, if you decide to see some of the "traditional" sights in London, be ready for some sticker shock. Westminster Abbey, the Tower of London, and several of the other places tourists go to are very expensive. On the other hand, many of the museums are top-notch and completely free.

  94. European backpackers do it all the time by thogard · · Score: 1

    My laptop goes on trips with me all the time and they are more likely to get broken than stolen if you attempt to keep it safe. Over a decade ago I would travel with my SparcBOOK but now nearly every backpacker seems to have a laptop.

    Most laptops have a "figure 8" non-grounded cord on their power brick but a few have a "mickey mouse" grounded type (Wikipedia IEC c5 c7 for pics). You may be able to find a UK style figure 8 cable before you leave. The plug will be a massive thing with 3 square plugs that will be about the size of a dryer plug and google "UK plug" will show you an image. UK plugs have fuses in them and the power point will have a switch. The cord in a UK shop may be called a "flex" and I expect you can find it at the local Tandy shop. Just check that your power supply can cope with 240V. A replacement cord is much easier to carry around than the huge power adapters.

    If your staying at nice hotels you should have a safe big enough to lock the laptop. If your staying at a backpackers, just find an old beat up laptop to take along and it will be safe since everyone will have a nicer faster laptop.

    Be careful where your flights arrive and leave from. There are several international airports in London and Gatwick is the second most common. Cheap round trips have been known to leave from a different airport. UK Immigration will ask you if your there to work and they will want proof that your going back. Even with a return ticket they may not be happy and I know people who were sent back. Just have documentation that of where you will be staying and when you will be back and that sort of thing. Also for return customs, you can clear customs back to the US in Puerto Rico which is preferable to JFK in many ways.

    1. Re:European backpackers do it all the time by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      and I expect you can find it at the local Tandy shop.
      Tandy shut down years ago.

      There is another chain called Maplin that fills roughly the niche that tandy used to. You can probablly also get the cables in most computer stores.

      --
      note: i'm known as plugwash most places but i screwd up registering that here somehow in the past and now can't register
  95. We have no idea what you like by James+Youngman · · Score: 1

    "I am traveling to London from Washington state for two weeks in December for pleasure (use-it-or-lose-it vacation scenario) and was wondering if I should bother bringing my laptop. I know that I would have to change the region code on my wireless amongst other things and the power cord would have to be changed for a UK outlet.

    Why bother? Just get a travel adaptor, like everyone else does. They're cheap, even if you buy them in the most expensive place possible - the airport. Most laptops do not require voltage conversion (and have power supplies that explicitly state that they accept 230V). Check.

    Would I be better off not bringing my laptop and just using Internet kiosks (do they exist in London?) or would having my laptop be a better choice to keep in touch, off-load my digital images etc?

    London is no different to (say) New York in this way. You can use Internet kiosks, but you'd be crazy to do so for banking transactions, just as for internet cafes anywhere in the world. As for how you work with digital images, it depends on the value of the images and the volume of data, doesn't it? When on vacation myself I generally produce more image data than it's convenient to burn to DVD, so I don't really have that option. Hence I take a laptop + an external drive, so that I can keep two copies of the data. One goes in the checked luggage, the other is carry-on.

    I plan on hitting the British Museum but was wondering what geeky things to do that are in London that might be worth going to and any tips hints on overseas travel for geeks? I travel quite a bit in the states but this will be my first trip overseas and want to make the best of my stay in merry old England. What words of advice do you travel seasoned geeks have for me?"

    You won't see much "Merrie Olde England" in London. It's a city. As for stuff to do there, you haven't indicated what you enjoy doing. People could recommend you landmarks etc., but that would make your stay awfully generic. Here's a list of non-generic things you'll probably hate because they don't suit your (unstated) tastes:

    • The London Silver Vaults
    • Camden Lock (when the market's on)
    • Dickens House Museum
    • Sigmund Freud's House
    • Highgate Cemetery
    • Greenwich Foot Tunnel
    • Royal Observatory, Greenwich (correct pronunciation is "grenitch", that is, one of the Es and the W are silent)
    • Almost any of the London Walks company's walks (recommended guide: Richard with the red hat)
    • Tate Modern
    • The Museum of London (which is a museum about the city itself)
    • Horseguards
    • The Cabinet War Rooms
    • Belowzero
    • Harrod's (esp. the barber's and the Green Man)
    • The Clink Prison Museum
    • St. Paul's
    • The Thames Barrier
    • The umbrella shop on New Oxford Street
    • The Skinny house at the junction of Devonport Road and Goldhawk Road (in the UK, never leave out the "Road" or "Street" part, there are often duplicates - "Foo Street" and "Foo Road" likely both exist and are sometimes far apart)
    • The Old Bailey - drop in quietly on a random trial to see how it all works

    ... so, research them to select the things you'll find interesting.

    1. Re:We have no idea what you like by slim · · Score: 1

      Highgate Cemetary

      Watch out. It's a communist plot!

    2. Re:We have no idea what you like by Mr.+Bad+Example · · Score: 1

      > The Clink Prison Museum

        Avoid this. I was in London earlier this year (half-vacation, half-work; I was doing some stuff for my master's degree), and stopped by the Clink. It's basically several rooms full of mannequins in replica torture devices and a few small, sad plaques with information you could find on Wikipedia. It definitely wasn't worth the money, even after the student discount.

  96. You will love dear old blighty by jabjoe · · Score: 1

    I would recommend starting in London of course.
    Natural History Museum (via the tube, you must use the tube!),
    Science Museum,
    British Museum,
    London Tower,
    HMS Belfast

    But don't just stay in London!

    Roman Bath's + Cheddar Gorge.
    Rather than Stone Henge, perhaps my favourite ancient ruin is Grimspound in Dartmoor. Dartmoor itself as moody wind swept moorland is worth seeing (and hiking!). You will find many ancient ruins in Dartmoor.
    I would also recommend Corfe Castle, it is a proper ye old castle with peasant village at it's foot. It's state will be your introduction to Cromwell.
    A still running old Steam Railway, there are quite a few.
    The Lake District, my favourite national park, with Helvellyn striding edge being on of my favourite walks, that and Great Gable.
    Jodrell bank is quite interesting, the visit centre is tiny, but the dish itself is interesting, with it's battle ship parts and history. Not been to Bletchley Park myself, but I feel I should. In fact, sod it, look in The Geek Atlas, loads in the UK.
    http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596523213

    1. Re:You will love dear old blighty by slim · · Score: 2, Informative

      I like London. But I'd still say, if it's a two week visit, get the hell out of London for at least half that time, and see some other parts of Britain.

      One of the more picturesque cities (Bath, Oxford, York). Or a smaller town. Or some countryside.

      Get a guidebook (I like Lonely Planet) and follow your own tastes.

      As others have said; your laptop will work with a simple travel plug. It's easy to find WiFi - less easy to find free WiFi.

      Most important of all, in London:
      DO NOT EAT AT AN ANGUS STEAKHOUSE or similar. They are expensive tourist traps that serve revolting food. Nobody goes twice. If you're wise you don't go once.

    2. Re:You will love dear old blighty by boristhespider · · Score: 1

      DO NOT EAT AT AN ANGUS STEAKHOUSE or similar. They are expensive tourist traps that serve revolting food. Nobody goes twice. If you're wise you don't go once.

      Hahahahahaha! The best advice on this page yet.

    3. Re:You will love dear old blighty by digitig · · Score: 1

      If it were summer I'd recommend a coach outing to the Cotswolds, Bourton-on-the-Water perhaps, but I suspect they might be a bit bleak in winter.

      --
      Quidnam Latine loqui modo coepi?
    4. Re:You will love dear old blighty by slim · · Score: 1

      Bleak can be good :D

      Dartmoor on a dull wintry day...
      Or the Cornish coast in a storm (very Daphne du Maurier)
      Or a seaside resort, out of season (as in Morrissey's 'Every Day is Like Sunday').

      That's the real Britain ;)

    5. Re:You will love dear old blighty by digitig · · Score: 1

      Bleak can be good :D

      Dartmoor on a dull wintry day... Or the Cornish coast in a storm (very Daphne du Maurier) Or a seaside resort, out of season (as in Morrissey's 'Every Day is Like Sunday').

      That's the real Britain ;)

      True; I did a month in South Moulton one winter, and it was a delight. But stand well back from the Cornish coast in a storm (and the quote about a seaside resort out of season goes back well before Morrissey!)

      --
      Quidnam Latine loqui modo coepi?
    6. Re:You will love dear old blighty by mckwant · · Score: 1

      Seconded. London is a good destination for a beginning traveler, but, assuming you don't have some (pretty big) project, there just isn't enough there to cover two weeks. I'd have to be convinced that ANY city can fill two weeks, barring some "cooking school in Italy" idea.

      Don't misunderstand. I'm not a fan of the "Death March" tour. One of my wife's friends did a tour of Europe with 25 cities in 30 days, which strikes me as horrific. There's a middle ground in there somewhere. Heck, with two weeks, you could even look at another city. Travel to the continent gets pretty simple once you get across the pond.

      I concur with the Lonely Planet recommendation, but be a little wary. My wife and I used it extensively in Thailand, but since most of the commentary is user-driven, you can get led astray. For instance, there was a well recommended Italian place in Chiang Mai. We went, sat down, and listened to the chef "highly recommend the lobster." Not what we were down for (would've totally nuked our budget), so we left. I'm sure it was OK, but apply your own judgement, and don't feel bad about just walking out.

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    7. Re:You will love dear old blighty by mckwant · · Score: 1

      Oh, and my (exceedingly well traveled) parents have had good luck with the Rick Steves series of travel books. I find that series to be a little more "comfortable middle class" travel than the "backpacker" motif of Lonely Planet, but it might fit well here.

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      ceci n'est pas un sig.
  97. are you kidding? by jaymz2k4 · · Score: 1

    Would I be better off not bringing my laptop and just using Internet kiosks (do they exist in London?)

    Are you kidding me?. Although I would bring your laptop with anyway and make use of the many free wifi spots in pubs (sorry, bars) and the like. We are quite connected here.

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    jaymz
  98. Leave the laptop, man. by billsayswow · · Score: 0

    I would suggest leaving your laptop behind. If anyone needs to contact you in case of emergency, they can call the hotel. For the price and hassle of the plug adapters and such, you could just pick up another SD card or two, if you're worried about picture storage (remember you can always delete pictures, too!). Without your laptop, you can travel lighter and, without the pressure of keeping in contact, you will have more time to enjoy the trip, and everyone will be that much more excited for your return.

  99. Going to Oxford by mlush · · Score: 4, Informative

    Do NOT go to Oxford, or if you do, only go for an afternoon. Once you've seen the university, it is an extremely tedious place.

    Go to Oxford and spend that afternoon in The Pitt Rivers Museum and the Museum of the History of Science

    1. Re:Going to Oxford by mustrum_ridcully · · Score: 1

      Go to Oxford... Have a pint or three at the Eagle and Child, where The Inklings writers' group (which included J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis) used to meet-up until 1962 (the Rabbit Room has various bits of memorabilia.). Then cross the road to the Lamb and Flag, where the Inklings group used to go to meet-up after 1962 and have a pint there.

      As the saying goes "she was never bored because she was never boring"...

    2. Re:Going to Oxford by Wintergr33n · · Score: 1

      The Eagle and Child (or Bird & Babe as we call it) is a bit rubbish now and I'm sorry to say - always full of American tourists(!) which keeps the locals out...

      The University/Pitt Rivers museum (they are in the same building) are definitely worth a look - and I can't believe that no-one has mentioned the Ashmolean, which has just been re-done and is an astounding museum - world class really.

      Thanks to the person who mentioned the Steampunk exhibition - I'm going to have to go and check that out myself!

    3. Re:Going to Oxford by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll second the recommendation for the Bird and Baby, including the pint or three part.

    4. Re:Going to Oxford by johnrpenner · · Score: 1

      go to oxford - when i went (waaay back in 1992) - you can sit in the pub where the oxford inklings (j.r.r tolkien, c.s. lewis, owen barfield, charles williams) used to gather and discuss their latest writings... they had some of tolkien's original manuscripts on display at the BODLEIAN Library.. very cool. :-D

  100. Dress like the others you see by James+Youngman · · Score: 1

    When on the first day out, look at other people and then dress like them for the rest of the journey

    Hmm. Best not go to Horseguards on the first day, then.

    1. Re:Dress like the others you see by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      Neither Camden Town.

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      bickerdyke
    2. Re:Dress like the others you see by minasoko · · Score: 1

      When on the first day out, look at other people and then dress like them for the rest of the journey

      Hmm. Best not go to Horseguards on the first day, then.

      Or Camden.

  101. Hint: Buy a Pay-as-you-go Phone by twoshortplanks · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can buy a pay as you go phone at the airport or on any London high street. A cheap model shouldn't cost you more than 20 pounds. This solves the problem of a) your phone not working here because you don't have roaming b) People not being willing to call you back because you've only got a US number when you roam c) Stupidly high roaming charges.

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  102. Victoria and Albert by agulliford · · Score: 1

    The British museum mostly things from foreign cultures, like blocks of stone written in three very exciting ancient languages! The V & A is much more interesting.. http://www.vam.ac.uk/

  103. How is this a question for slashdot? by cenc · · Score: 1

    Try a travel forum or stay home.

  104. Awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make sure you talk VERY LOUDLY on the tube, and say things like - "Im so happy to be in awesome London, England." Because there are other London's around the world.

    Actually, best not say Awesome - British people use this word to describe biblical scale events, not hotdogs. Unless they are very very big.

  105. Just take a smart phone.... by Mr+Stubby · · Score: 1

    I don't recall doing anything particularly geeky in London the one time i was there for a few days so i cant help there but I havent bothered with a laptop etc when travelling since i got my iphone, i sort out a data sim for the country im going to before i set off and honestly, google maps is the best thing on earth to have on you when you have NFI where you are and nobody speaks english ;)

  106. River trip by Shimbo · · Score: 1

    December might not be the best time but I'd recommend a trip downriver on the River Thames. There's the Thames barrier, and Greenwich park, the National Maritime Museum. And surely no true geek can visit London without visiting the zero meridian.

       

  107. Remember to... by baker_tony · · Score: 1

    Remember to wear a Texas style hat and to speak loudly and slowly to Londoners, that way we'll be able to help you better.

  108. Greenwich by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Greenwich is definitely worthwhile: the prime meridian, and the Harrison clock prototypes were highlights for me.

    http://wikitravel.org/en/London/Greenwich#See

  109. London Jerks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently only the assholes in London reply to posts on Slashdot. While I do like England in general and London specifically, I will have to rethink giving any of my hard-earned money to a city/country that have such assholes in it.

    1. Re:London Jerks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, one thing is for sure: you won't be missed.

  110. Take the Eurostar by mad+flyer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And also spend a day or two in Paris. It's a quick and cheap ride.

    1. Re:Take the Eurostar by dyshexic · · Score: 1

      if you book in advance you can get some very cheap fairs to paris or brussels you can also get onward travel, for example a friend went to the middle of Holland on the train for £80 return use dutch railways to book tickets, its in english and gives you all the information

    2. Re:Take the Eurostar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention that the experience of riding on a proper train will open your eyes to how dismal air travel really is, since you've never been outside the States before. It ain't Amtrak.

  111. London Tips by ratboy666 · · Score: 1

    Some hotels have a 110V/AC US outlet in the room. Ask.

    If the hotel you are staying in doesn't have this, power converters are available. Buy one in the US and take it over. Prices in London are rather shocking. You will spend twice as much as you expected over there (It will cost you just under $40 US if you buy one in London).

    Take a bus from Heathrow to London -- the cab fare is almost $150 US. But take cabs in the city. The drivers are very knowledgeable.

    As for cell phones... mine just works. Ridiculous roaming fees, though, so talk to your cell provider before you leave, and buy an international plan. If you don't, you may end up with several hundred in cell phone charges.

    Beyond this? Have fun and enjoy yourself. (I've never been to London on anything but business trips, but I've always enjoyed the experience).

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    Just another "Cubible(sic) Joe" 2 17 3061
    1. Re:London Tips by xaxa · · Score: 1

      London Underground from Heathrow to the centre of London takes 45-60 minutes and costs £2.40 (off peak, with an Oyster card which you can buy before you get here). It's above ground most of the way (until Barons Court IIRC).

      If you don't care to keep the same number while you're in the UK and don't need to call home then just buy a UK SIM (~£10 including £10 credit).

      Only take cabs in the city if someone else is paying ;-). Most Londoners will walk for short journeys (certainly anything under 15 minutes in dry weather) and use buses (£1) and the tube for longer ones.

  112. Reservations? by lena_10326 · · Score: 1
    You will want your laptop to make reservations over the net... unless you enjoy paying double. Other reasons to bring the laptop:
    • Search for info on things to do: clubs, museums, restaurants, reviews...
    • Checkout where you're going with google maps, street view, photos, etc.
    • Hookup with local yocals (assuming you're single)
    • Internet phone
    • Keep your family updated with your doings in a foreign country
    • Pre-check-in on your flight, making changes
    • Handling stolen wallet/credit card/passport/cell scenario
    • Easier to use than a crackberry-iphone

    Also, I would not bring my personal or work laptop in case it gets stolen. I would pickup a $300 netbook because it's easier to carry and there's little impact if it's stolen. A new machine will have much less of your personal info on it.

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    Camping on quad since 1996.
  113. From a Brit who travels to the US a lot by evilandi · · Score: 2, Informative

    Take your laptop. Make sure your hotel has WiFi. Use the WiFi without changing the settings and without fear; the US uses a couple of extra radio frequencies that the UK doesn't, but since all the access points / routers will be British, your laptop will only lock on to the British frequencies, so it isn't a real issue. You absolutely will not get hassle for this.

    Forget internet kiosks. They're as crappy in the UK as they are everywhere else in the world. Even being quaintly retro-fitted into a traditional red phone box with an innovative stainless steel vandal-proof trackball doesn't detract from the universal crappiness of internet kiosks in general. If you absolutely must, use a proper Internet cafe, but even so you'll be better off with your own laptop and free WiFi at a normal cafe. Lots and lots of cafes offer free WiFi. You can also get pay-for WiFi at many pubs, and those which are part of the British Telecom BT Openzone network will allow you to carry over WiFi credit from pub to another pub.

    Take only one British plug adaptor (you can buy them at the airport) but take a multi-way gang lead. That way you can plug multiple American electronic devices into one British socket. Hotels the world over have a shortage of sockets, this is no different in the UK, so make the most of one socket rather than buying converters for several.

    Make sure your cell phone is compatible with GSM/3G/UTMS and that your cellular provider is aware that you are travelling to the UK.

    The British Museum is pretty good, albiet small, and offers a lot which American museums don't. Bear in mind that the Rosetta Stone is not as large as you might imagine. The Science Museum covers pretty much the same things as other science museums in other capital cities around the world, it's good but not particularly different from what you have back in the US, unless you desperately, desperately want to see a working version of Babbage's 250-year-old mechanical computer. If you want a second museum day, consider the Victoria and Albert museum which has lots of steampunk and design things.

    If you have only one day out of London, visit Bletchley Park, the WWII codebreaking base with lots of old computers. You can catch a train from Euston station, takes about 45 mins. If you have a second day out, visit Oxford, the quaint picturesque university city with Cotswold stone buildings and lots of really distinctive museums. You can catch a train from Paddington station, takes about an hour. Neither Bletchley nor Oxford train station are in the middle of where you want to be (it's difficult to plan infrastructure in towns built a thousand years ago), so expect some walking.

    Absolutely do not hire a car. Firstly, the steering wheel and handbrake will be on the wrong side of the car, secondly it's expensive, thirdly the roads are significantly more crowded and more wiggly than you are used to, and fourthly we have lots and lots of roundabouts which are entirely different to four-way stops in ways which you can probably not even imagine.

    Taxis are expensive. Use the plentiful and frequent underground (subway train) service, buy an all-day or all-week pass. This pass will also cover you for the busses.

    Get the London Popout Map. This covers the main pedestrian areas, underground map and bus routes in a very compact form, slips easily into a small pocket and uses a very geeky, very neat origami folding method which means you can quickly and discretely open it in a confined space, without looking like a potential mugging victim.

    Get an Underground Overground tube map. You can buy these from dispensers on the underground platforms. They show the actual physical route and actual physical distances the tube trains take; the traditional symbolic map doesn't demonstrate the real distances between stops. You

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    Andrew Oakley - www.aoakley.com
    1. Re:From a Brit who travels to the US a lot by IndieKid · · Score: 1

      Get an Underground Overground tube map. You can buy these from dispensers on the underground platforms. They show the actual physical route and actual physical distances the tube trains take; the traditional symbolic map doesn't demonstrate the real distances between stops. You can waste a lot of time trying to take a particular tube to a particular station, when you could have just taken a simpler journey and ended up only two blocks' walk away. Not as convenient as the popout map, but good for planning your day.

      I would agree with this; better yet if you have an iPhone, get the London Tube app - it will tell you the nearest tube stop using GPS and plot the fastest route from one station to the other. Finally, changing at Bank for Monument and vice versa on the tube is to be avoided if at all possible, especially during rush hour!

    2. Re:From a Brit who travels to the US a lot by evilandi · · Score: 1

      And some other things...

      The UK has a high population density which has some forseeable consequences. Hotel rooms will be small, especially in central London. Trains and busses will be crowded in rush hour - if you don't have to be travelling between 8-9:30am or 4:30-6:30pm, then don't.

      If you want oriental food, then Chinatown (Soho), just off Leicester Square and a 3-minute walk from Picadilly Circus, does exactly what it says on the tin.

      Set aside 20 quid to have proper Afternoon Tea, 3pm onwards at the Terrace Bar in Harrods department store. Ask the besuited concierges for this specific bar (there are many). Ignore anyone who says Harrods is touristy; you are a tourist, so enjoy it and soak up the atmosphere. Service at Harrods is far better than at Fortnum & Mason, even if the prices match.

      Do you like engineering? Break up a tube journey by having a look around St Pancras railway station, a marvel of Victorian ironwork itself, and where the rather swish Eurostar train starts its 200mph journey to Paris. Still engineering based, visit the Thames Barrier, a moving metal marvel which stops London from flooding.

      Take the Docklands Light Railway monorail (included in your underground tube train ticket) to East India station and gawp at Telehouse Docklands. Note how British police do not carry pistols. Oh no. If they're going to carry a gun, they carry an assault rifle.

      Visit the Grenwich Observatory, home of the GMT zero line and note with amusement that, although us British have given up most of our Empire, we still tell the rest of the world when to wake up and when to go to bed.

      Walk past Buckingham Palace but make sure you also walk past St James Palace, only two blocks away, which is much older and has far more history.

      Really, really, make sure you take a compact umbrella.

      --
      Andrew Oakley - www.aoakley.com
    3. Re:From a Brit who travels to the US a lot by nomadic · · Score: 1

      If you want oriental food, then Chinatown (Soho), just off Leicester Square and a 3-minute walk from Picadilly Circus, does exactly what it says on the tin.

      I don't think you should be allowed to call a place in your city a Chinatown if it's like 2 blocks. By the way, stick with Indian food in London, the chinese food is terrible, though the poor brits don't seem to realize just how bad it is.

    4. Re:From a Brit who travels to the US a lot by slim · · Score: 1

      Absolutely do not hire a car. Firstly, the steering wheel and handbrake will be on the wrong side of the car, secondly it's expensive, thirdly the roads are significantly more crowded and more wiggly than you are used to, and fourthly we have lots and lots of roundabouts which are entirely different to four-way stops in ways which you can probably not even imagine.

      Plus it's likely to be a stick-shift, unless you specifically ask for an automatic and they happen to have one available.

      (Note: Americans do have a few roundabouts)

      However, as long as you understand all this, by all means hire a car. It can be the only sensible way of reaching certain destinations.

      You certainly don't need a car in London, and would be wise not to attempt to drive in or out. Collect one on the outskirts.

      Motorways are more or less straight and have a limit of 70MPH. Off the motorways, remember that the roads can be windy. It's only 120 miles from Birmingham to Aberystwyth, but it takes 3 hours.

    5. Re:From a Brit who travels to the US a lot by evilandi · · Score: 1

      I'd tend to agree with this. Chinatown will give you some of the best Chinese restaurants that London has to offer, but that isn't saying very much.

      The Japanese restaurants, however, which tend towards nearby areas, are pretty top-notch IMHO. Particularly the sushi.

      All of this comes with the caveat "...for a country which has no Pacific coastline". Despite our imperial heritage, the UK simply doesn't have the East Asian communities in the numbers that, say, California has.

      --
      Andrew Oakley - www.aoakley.com
    6. Re:From a Brit who travels to the US a lot by digitig · · Score: 1

      the chinese food is terrible

      Some of it is, but some of the Chinese food in Beijing is terrible too. My wife is Chinese and can find good Chinese food in London. For Indian food, try Drummond Street near Euston Station, or Brick Lane in the East End (Aldgate East tube) and take in the Whitechapel gallery while you're there if you like modern art (the present free exhibition, Sophie Calle's award-winning "Talking to Stranger's" is excellent, IMHO).

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      Quidnam Latine loqui modo coepi?
    7. Re:From a Brit who travels to the US a lot by Serious+Callers+Only · · Score: 1

      By the way, stick with Indian food in London, the chinese food is terrible, though the poor brits don't seem to realize just how bad it is.

      Nonsense. There is some great Chinese food in London, though there is also some of the worst available in some restaurants of Chinatown.

    8. Re:From a Brit who travels to the US a lot by nomadic · · Score: 1

      The Japanese restaurants, however, which tend towards nearby areas, are pretty top-notch IMHO. Particularly the sushi.

      Fresh from the Thames!

    9. Re:From a Brit who travels to the US a lot by evilandi · · Score: 1

      To be fair, Britain is pretty well served for fresh fish. What with it being an island in the Atlantic, and all.

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      Andrew Oakley - www.aoakley.com
    10. Re:From a Brit who travels to the US a lot by nomadic · · Score: 1

      I know, just messin' with you.

  114. Don't your phones do *all* of this? by Colin+Smith · · Score: 1

    Unless you want some time off from computer, take your laptop with you. It's still a lot easier than always going to a Internet Kiosk and can use it otherwise than just quickly uploading images off.

    Leave the laptop.

    Hell, there's even berlitz/lonely planet/etc guides on maps. You can even plan efficient routes round all the sites/red light districts you want to experience.

     

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    1. Re:Don't your phones do *all* of this? by WinterSolstice · · Score: 1

      I agree. When I take a trip for fun, I bring an ebook or regular book, a PSP with some extra movies/games, and a nearly empty suitcase for all the books/neat stuff.

      Laptops are for work for the most part. You can't enjoy some other culture while lugging your laptop around. Besides, it's just making you more prone to theft.

      The real worry is phones - if you have one that's going to cost you a fortune in long distance, leave it. If you have a real world phone, you can get a disposable SIM.

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      An operating system should be like a light switch... simple, effective, easy to use, and designed for everyone.
    2. Re:Don't your phones do *all* of this? by dmacleod808 · · Score: 1

      Laptops are for work for the most part? You've got to be kidding me. I carry my laptop everywhere, and i use it exactly ZERO % of the time for work. That was a very generalized statement that cannot be backed up. When i get back to my wifi enabled hotel at night, i dont want to sit around watching whatever crap is on the hotel tv service.

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      There Can Be Only One...
    3. Re:Don't your phones do *all* of this? by WinterSolstice · · Score: 1

      It's a generalized statement because it's an *opinion*. I didn't say "laptops cannot be used for non-work purposes".

      If you like wandering around with 8 extra pounds of expensive and fragile equipment, good for you. If you like leaving it in the hotel, that's fine too.

      My travel experiences have shown me that there are better things to do at night than sit around and watch TV when I'm on vacation, so I typically get back to the hotel very late after visiting bars, concerts, clubs, or shows of some sort.

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      An operating system should be like a light switch... simple, effective, easy to use, and designed for everyone.
    4. Re:Don't your phones do *all* of this? by drummerboybac · · Score: 1

      Part of the fun of traveling internationally is trying to decipher what the hell is on the TV. For example german MTV is hilarious showing "pimp dien handy mit MTV" and some guy is trying to impersonate Xzibit in German,

    5. Re:Don't your phones do *all* of this? by mlush · · Score: 1

      I agree. When I take a trip for fun, I bring an ebook or regular book, a PSP with some extra movies/games, and a nearly empty suitcase for all the books/neat stuff.

      Laptops are for work for the most part. You can't enjoy some other culture while lugging your laptop around. Besides, it's just making you more prone to theft.

      The real worry is phones - if you have one that's going to cost you a fortune in long distance, leave it. If you have a real world phone, you can get a disposable SIM.

      I'd agree with you slightly a lappy is heavy to lug round and prone to be stolen. However being able to find and book the next hotel from your current hotel is a holiday saver it makes shiping out of a crud hotel that much simpler.. that and theres is using it for Skype, somewhere to backup photos, instant access to weather forecasts, time tables etc

      So I'd suggest taking a cheap netbook. small, light and borderline expendable (esp if its secondhand).

    6. Re:Don't your phones do *all* of this? by WinterSolstice · · Score: 1

      Netbooks/wifi enabled phones for the win :)

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    7. Re:Don't your phones do *all* of this? by duguk · · Score: 1

      "pimp dien handy mit MTV"

      I learnt from Stephen Fry that this means "Pimp your Mobile Telephone with Music-Television"

      some guy is trying to impersonate Xzibit in German

      But that, I have no idea about.

    8. Re:Don't your phones do *all* of this? by dmacleod808 · · Score: 1

      I don't think lugging my netbook to a hotel room to sit there for a week is a hassle. I can give you the fact that you like to go to clubs and whatnot, but me and my girl are a little more sedate than that.

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      There Can Be Only One...
  115. British Library by macklin01 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Go see the British Library. It's free, and they have a great collection of illuminated manuscripts, Da Vinci sketches, etc. My wife and I really enjoyed it, as it's a well-hidden gem. Really enjoyed seeing a copy of the Magna Carta.

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  116. Geek or a Computerized Redneck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You dont look like a geek... perhaps a redneck with a computer would describe you better?... travel more.

    Internet Kiosks in London?... of course not!, they only drink tea and drink warm beer.

  117. Why UK? by Krneki · · Score: 0, Troll
    From all of the EU country you had to pick the one that is the most US like?

    Bad food and even worse weather.

    P.S: Just trolling.

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    1. Re:Why UK? by jabjoe · · Score: 1

      I know your trolling, but look: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596523213
      That's why the UK. That and little to no language issues.
      But if you want sun and good food, sure, the rest of the EU is generally better.

    2. Re:Why UK? by Hieronymus+Howard · · Score: 1

      The food has improved a lot here in recent years. Unfortunately the weather hasn't followed its example.

    3. Re:Why UK? by Krneki · · Score: 1

      Of course, you can't import good weather.

      P.S: Still trolling. :)

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      Love many, trust a few, do harm to none.
  118. Visit London.pm, dude. by jonadab · · Score: 1

    London has one of the most active Perl Mongers groups on the planet. I think they're responsible for a double-digit percentage of the content on the CPAN. As a geek, you can't go to London and not visit the Perl Mongers group. It would be like going to the city where the Usenix conference is being held, during the week they're holding it, and not attending the conference. Totally not an option.

    I think there's also some famous clock tower thing and some stuff.

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    Cut that out, or I will ship you to Norilsk in a box.
  119. Down House or Stonehenge by countincognito · · Score: 1

    Depending on your scope of geekiness, there are plenty of scientifically historical places to visit. If you can spare the time to venture out of London, maybe even hire a car, you can make a timely visit to Charles Darwin's house in Kent, or of course Stonehenge.

    1. Re:Down House or Stonehenge by digitig · · Score: 1

      maybe even hire a car, you can make a timely visit to Charles Darwin's house in Kent

      Or don't bother hiring a car -- just give me a call to make sure I'm free, then come to Pett's Wood station (half an hour from Charing Cross on a commuter line) and I'll give you a lift! I'm not sure that it would be worth hiring a car for, it only takes an hour or so to see it, although if the weather's good then walking around the grounds can be pleasant.

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      Quidnam Latine loqui modo coepi?
  120. Here are some cool geek locations to go to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did the same a few years back - London Science Museum - old 1940's & 1950's computers, London Transport Museum (trains, buses, etc.), Imperial War Museum, AND Bletchley Park in the town of Bletchley - train ride north of London. Home of the rebuilt Colossus computer (world's first computer - built during WWII to decode German Enigma codes - actually ten were built) and the place Alan Turing worked. If you get there ask if Tony Sale is around - he rebuilt Colossus and also the computers in the London Science Museum. Along the way I also went out to Dover Castle to see the underground tunnels in the Castle that wee used as a base during WWII and ran the SE UK phone system

  121. Travels with a laptop by mlush · · Score: 1

    One very big advantage of having a laptop is that you can upload you days photos to the internet (either a web service or NAS box at home) far far away from the risks of theft and prying customs inspection. Upload can take some time if your even a mild shutterbug so doing it overnight on the hotel wifi is very handy

    On the matter of places to go I'll say again Oxford is worth a day trip just for the Pitt Rivers Museum (t the small but perfectly formed Oxford natural history museum located on the same site is a nice bonus and the nearby Museum of the History of Science. has great geek appeal. (.I suppose you could also go to the Ashmolean if you have some spare time)

    Also not that the Pitt rivers website does not do justice to the sheer random strangeness of the place here is an article about it.

  122. Leave the computer at home by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 1

    You're not going to want to carry the computer around with you all day, especially the added weight of chargers, etc.

    Buy a handful of SD cards (or whatever) for the camera, and you can download everything when you get home.

  123. Health advice: by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

    AVOID SAUSAGES!!

    Contrary to popular believe you'll be able to find good food in London/England/UK (To be honest - this includes a visit to an an indian and a chinese restaurant. But they're much better than across the channel.) The pies served in pubs are great, fish & chips.... but at any cost: NO SAUSAGES!

    If you manage to completly empty your brain of everything you know about beer or it's taste, you'll find that british beer is also VERY drinkable. I'm always looking forward to a few pints of real Ale. But if you have any expectation left of what 'beer' is supposed to taste, you'll probably spit it across the room.

    In my opinion, two weeks is too long for London. There's so much to do and to see there, after 6 days, you'll suffer from "London Overflow". you really should plan about a week for a tour of the rest of england. Perhaps up north to scotland. Edinburgh, some scotish castles.

    Don't know if Harry Potter is part of your geek culture, but you'll find guided tours to the filming locations all over england. if your cultural demands are a bit more classic, "The Globe" is a must.

    and remember: no sausage!!!

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    1. Re:Health advice: by slim · · Score: 1

      AVOID SAUSAGES!!

      You'd be missing out.

      Yes, if you eat somewhere cheap you'll get a tube of mechanically recovered meat, rusk and lard.

      But look for clues on the menu such as "gourmet", "hand reared", "locally sourced" etc. and you're likely to get some bloody good sausage.

    2. Re:Health advice: by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      But if you have any expectation left of what 'beer' is supposed to taste, you'll probably spit it across the room.

      This depends entirely on the beer that you are used to. There are lots of decent microbrewery ales in the USA, and if you're accustomed to these then you'll enjoy british ales (although not the crap that most of the big chain pubs have on tap). If, on the other hand, you think lager is beer, then you will have problems.

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    3. Re:Health advice: by nomadic · · Score: 1

      Contrary to popular believe you'll be able to find good food in London/England/UK (To be honest - this includes a visit to an an indian and a chinese restaurant. But they're much better than across the channel.)

      UK Indian food is amazing, but the chinese food is sub-par.

      The pies served in pubs are great,
      If you're allergic to flavor.

      fish & chips....

      Not too bad.

    4. Re:Health advice: by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      I had even good german beer or checheslovakian beer in mind.

      It's not a matter of better or worse, but what your taste buds expect. Like finding out that the piece of meat you just put into your mouth was in fact a grilled aubergine. Also fine, but that sponge like texture feels completly WRONG for a moment.

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    5. Re:Health advice: by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      whats in there then?

      ok, I'll give it a try when I'm over there next time, but to be honest, the idea of rusk or anything similar in a sausage seems a bit gross.

      Perhaps it's similar to ale. You'll be able to like it - but you must forget what you knew about beer was supposed to taste.

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    6. Re:Health advice: by slim · · Score: 1

      http://www.channel4.com/food/features/what-s-in-your-banger-09-01-23_p_1.html

      A typical economy sausage recipe might look like: 30% pork fat, 20% recovered meat, 30% rusk and soya, 15% water and 5% assorted e-numbers, flavourings, sugar, flavour enhancer, preservatives and colourings.

      Premium sausages look hand made. Good sausages use joints of meat, minced; you'll be able to see the granules of fat and meat through the skin.

      At the top end, the ingredients list is much shorter; something like 40% belly pork, 40% boned shoulder of pork, 10% breadcrumbs, 5% water and 5% herbs and spices.

      Of course, some people like the taste of cheap sausages. You can train yourself to like any old crap. Hence the success of McDonalds.

    7. Re:Health advice: by serveto · · Score: 1

      But if you have any expectation left of what 'beer' is supposed to taste, you'll probably spit it across the room.

      If he drinks the generic Bud like stuff the the idea that beer has taste will be an alien concept.

    8. Re:Health advice: by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      thank you!

      I always wondered what's in british saussage - and whats *supposed* to be in it :-)

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    9. Re:Health advice: by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Depends on the german beer. A lot of German dark beers are quite similar to a good British ale and some British summer ales are similar to a German or Austrian weissbier. The bigger problem is if you are more familiar with Belgian or Mediterranean lagers; these can be very nice, but if you ask for a beer, you will not get anything like one of them.

      That said, if you ask for a beer in a British pub, you will probably get something rubbish anyway. Ask what they have on tap, if they have any guest ales, and get the person behind the bar to tell you about each one. If they can't do that, the odds are you are in the wrong pub and should go elsewhere for your beer.

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    10. Re:Health advice: by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      Sausages, like any processed meat, can vary massively in quality...
      I would generally avoid any kind of processed meat like burgers, sausages, pies etc in the uk unless it's a very posh looking place charging a fortune. Processed "meat" products, especially the cheaper ones typically don't contain very much actual meat, most of it will be the reject parts of the animal, ground up so you can't identify what it is... Watch out for any meat which is described as "mechanically recovered" or something similar...

      On the other hand, there are some very nice places to eat in the uk depending what type of food you like, if spicy chinese food is your thing i recommend "new china" restaurant in london chinatown, if you go there ask for the spicy menu because they won't usually give you it by default if you don't look asian.

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  124. A shame Page's Bar isn't what it once was... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was a nice pub named Page's Bar (near Westminster) which was a geek's nirvana (a 'nerdvana', if you will). Sci-fi themed, frequently showing the latest Star Trek episodes on their projection screen, and with an NCC-1701-D sticking out of the ceiling. And the night always ended up with the gay clientele getting everyone else to Do The Timewarp (Again).

    When you went into the men's room, the door had a sensor on it and would make the whoooosh sound when opened. And they made a great Romulan Ale too (beer with green dye).

    They closed in 1994. London has never been the same since.

    But it gives you some idea how geeky London was, and probably still is.

  125. leave your laptop home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wouldnt bring the laptop if i were you... unless you are willing to spend at least 5 pounds an hour for wireless access...
    I used to live over there and there is not such a thing as free wireless in cafes, they all charge and very expensive. Internet cafes have the option to plug in your laptop and will charge you more than what you would pay if you use one of their machines.
    Besides, you will find it really unconfortable to travel around with it, if you get in the tube for example at rush hour, its so crowded that you risk it would get damaged.

  126. DO NOT TAKE A LAPTOP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DO NOT DO IT : Having a laptop can make you a criminal and you have NO RIGHT TO SILENCE - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/24/ripa_jfl/

    Posting as AC because, well, it's obvious...I don't want machine gun cops kicking in my door.

  127. Travel Advise by simoncrute · · Score: 1

    Sure bring your laptop I'd be lost if I didn't take mine abroad.

    Get a travel adapter and bring a 4-way.

    Could be worth picking up a pay-as-you-go sim for your cell phone, assuming you have a modern phone that does the European bands If that doesn't work, then a PAYG pnone can be had for less than £10. It will work out much cheaper than using your hotel phone or your domestic tariff.

    Don't get a taxi into the city from the Airport, they will charge a small fortune. The train is the fastest way into the center of town from both Gatwick and Heathrow.

    Consider flying Virgin Atlantic, the seat-back entertainment is the best there is on the trans-Atlantic route IMO.

    Visit the Natural History Museum, and the Science Museum, Allow a day for each, and keep clear of them on a wet Sunday as they are packed then (there are loads of free parking spaces in London on Sundays, so they make a good free, wet day out for everyone with kids, within an hours drive of them, and that's a lot of people) Allow at least a day each on these.

    If you're on a tight budget, check the Museum web sites for indoor picnic areas. Many of them have these, so you can save a bunch of money by brining your own lunch to them.

    I've not visited the Imperial War museum, but it's on my list to visit.

    The London eye is always good, as long as it's not hammering with rain (which is often is)

    If you want to get out of London then you can do day trips by rail as far as York as long as you travel week days. Canterbury or Oxford are good for a visit and you could use the coach to get there to save a few more quid.

    If you've got the money, a day trip to Paris by train is also feasible (or stay there for a couple of nights)

  128. Home for a Rest by mrsquid0 · · Score: 1

    Listed to the Spirit of the West song "Home for a Rest" (the Great Big Sea version works too) for some ideas on what to do when in England.

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  129. Docklands Light Railway by XSpud · · Score: 1

    If you decide to go to Greenwich, try taking the Docklands Light Railway (DLR) from near the Tower of London. They use computer-controlled, driverless trains and as it's mainly overground there are great views of Canary Wharf (the UK's financial centre).

    The Docklands Light Railway, London, UK

  130. cool restaurant by MrJamesThe2nd · · Score: 1

    If you're looking for a nice geeky dining experience, you should check out Inamo.

    From the website:
    inamo is a pioneering Oriental fusion restaurant and bar where the control of the dining experience is placed firmly in your hands. Our mission is to provide delicious cuisine with charming and timely service in a warm and vibrant atmosphere.
    At the core of Inamo is our interactive ordering system. Diners place orders from an illustrated food and drinks menu projected on to their table surface. You'll set the mood, discover the local neighbourhood, and even order a taxi home. Our dedicated and friendly staff are always on hand to help with whatever you need.


    While browsing the menu you can even see a projected preview of what the dish is going to look like.

    1. Re:cool restaurant by 1s44c · · Score: 1

      I don't know about Audrey23 but I'll be checking that place out in a few weeks when I'm next in London.

  131. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by OutOfMyTree · · Score: 1

    Diamond Geezer is a blogger who is a London enthusiast and he has covered lots of the smaller museums and other off-the-beaten track attractions of London. He also has plenty of geeky London Transport facts.

    tfl (Transport for London) is the website for travel information for London, and Traveline will give you public transport routes from anywhere to anywhere outside London. You certainly don't need to hire a car in London -- as well as the famous Tube, buses are widely used by everybody and have great coverage. You don't really need one out London either unless you want to visit really remote rural sites such as lonely beaches.

  132. Bring your laptop... by damionfury · · Score: 1
    I just moved to the UK (like a week ago) and here's my recommendations:

    1) Hit seatguru.com and look up the plane you will be on. You'll be able to find out if you'll have a power port at your seat, and also learn about any issues with the seat you are on. My advice is to upgrade to Business Class if you can. Far more comfortable.
    2) Bring your laptop. Your wifi will work out of the box, no adjustment necessary (I don't even think there are region codes on wireless, but I could be wrong), but pickup a travel plug. Your laptop's power brick should be autoswitching and will handle the 220V/50Hz power now problem, but check to be sure. Don't buy a new cord unless you are actually planning to move there.
    3) Will you be traveling alone or with someone else? If you are with someone, get each of you a Pre-Paid phone. If you already have a GSM-Phone, check if it's a tri- or quad-band phone. You may be able to make do with just buying a Pre-Paid SIM and swapping them in. Either way, you can find many places to pick them up, including Vending Machines.
    4) In the states, it seems like everyone takes Credit/Debit cards and nobody cares if it's Visa or Mastercard. Not so over here. I've seen quite a few ATMs that VISA only, so be sure to check. It helps to carry a few quid with you, just in case. FYI, Quid is slang for Pound(s).
    5) Someone else said it, but remember to LOOK RIGHT when crossing the street. We usually look left first, and then walk into the street as we look right. This can be deadly in the UK.
    6) Most of us are aware that not everyone loves us Yanks. The UK is pretty safe for Americans to travel, but be aware just the same. The movie Taken, while certainly overly-dramatized, makes a good point. Nobody thinks that it will be them. You don't need to be paranoid, just cautious.
    7) Be nice. Try to prove the American stereotype wrong.

    Lastly, 8) HAVE FUN. The place is kewl and they have some great beer. Definitely hit the pubs, even if you don't drink. They're an experience.

  133. Re:HSDPA modem, was dont overthink by CaptainOfSpray · · Score: 1

    Don't get the one from 3 Mobile Broadband. It's dirt cheap - because the coverage is poor outside central cities.

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  134. Leave the laptop at home + Grant Museum of Zoology by meanween · · Score: 1

    I went to London for the first time a few months ago. I recommend leaving the laptop at home unless you absolutely need it. First off, hauling a laptop around is a hassle. Second, open access points were few and far between. I stayed in three different hotels and not one offered free wifi, they all charged about 10-15 pounds for a day's access. If you're there to sightsee definitely check out the Museum of Natural History, it's free and it's in an amazing building. Additionally I think the hidden geek treasure is the Grant Museum of Zoology. It's small but worth stopping in too if you like preserved stuff in jars :) Also, Oyster card! Get one. I actually found that taking the double decker buses was a nice way to get around and see some of the city at the same time vs. the tube.

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  135. Just Do It... by Emperor+Shaddam+IV · · Score: 1

    Dude,
    It ain't that hard.

    1. Bring the laptop if you want, but internet cafes are all over London last time I was there. If you do bring the laptop, all you need is a plug adapter for your power adapter, if your power adapter handles 220 volts that's all you need.
    2. Buy Lonely Planet and some of the other guides and read up before you go. Bring them with you. Find some things you want to see in Lonely Planet.
    3. Ride the crazy double decker tourist buses first. This will help you learn the city.
    4. Go see what you want.
    5. If you like Indian/Pakistani cuisine - go to Brick Lane in East London. There are at least 30 curry restaurants on that one street.

    I can't believe how much people over-analyze vacations. Just go and do it. Don't sweat the details. You can find the most amazing things just walking around London without any major plans or agendas.

  136. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by slim · · Score: 1

    BIG tip:

    The area within the circle line of the Tube is smaller than you probably think. Evaluate the walking distance before you take the tube. Sometimes it's quicker to walk. Even when it's not, it's more pleasant and you see more cool stuff.

    (Taking a meandering route from Marylebone to Charing Cross the other day, I stumbled upon the former home of both George Bernard Shaw and Virginia Woolf, and also a 'little Venezuela' I never knew existed.)

  137. Eat Indian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This has nothing to do with technology. My only advice is this: don't bother with the British food. It's awful. But the Indian food is just as good as in India. So enjoy!

  138. painful to read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you have some kind of queer infatuation with "geekness". reading that question was painful to me. and only a moron would even ask such a stupid question, bring your damn laptop. holy crap.

  139. Doesn't look like anyone mentioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The national gallery. At Trafalgar Square - fantastic place and free as all museums are. Works by Da Vinci, Raphael, Picasso etc.

    I moved to London 18months from Australia and it's still one of my favourite places. The walk someone else suggested above from Westminster down along the river is also fantastic.

    Don't bother with the Eye if you're keen on exploring the city by foot. The Eye is for people that need to see London in a day or two.

    A weekend away somewhere in Europe you've always wanted to go is certainly possible to. Check out skyscanner.net for cheap flights.

    Enjoy the uk! oh and the fact the pound is worthless these days ;)

  140. Be cautious by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    A lot of the "adapters" you get to change European current to our 115 Volt tell you straight-up that they shouldn't be used for electronics. They aren't kidding.

    The best answer is to buy (or build) a charger that accepts batteries and has a suitable adapter. I just bought one for $25 for my Palm PDA that came with about a dozen different output jacks. It accepts two AA batteries, which can be bought just about anywhere in the world.

    Here's a couple of options for the home-built version:

    http://www.aarondunlap.com/blog/1130885615 http://www.instructables.com/id/MintyBoost!---Small-battery-powered-USB-charger/

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    1. Re:Be cautious by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      A lot of the "adapters" you get to change European current to our 115 Volt tell you straight-up that they shouldn't be used for electronics. They aren't kidding.
      mmm, i've heard of such crappy transformerless adaptors before though i've never seen one in person.

      Mostly though modern electronics come with universal input switched mode power supplies. If you have these then you don't have to worry about voltage conversion at all and can just use passive adaptors.

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  141. A geek in London by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was in London in June, and traveled without a laptop. I did have my trusty BlackBerry with me, complete with a UK SIM (http://www.callineurope.com/). I stayed in a nice enough hotel next to the Earl's Court subway station, and the wifi was upwards of $20/day. Bring a good small camera with an extra battery, and ample storage. Our battery ran out after about 6 hours.

    While there I traveled on the subway (tubes) using my vistor's Oyster Card which made transit so much easier (http://visitorshop.tfl.gov.uk/english/oystercard/product/oyster-card.htm). I did the London eye, which you do not have to book ahead (I only had to wait an hour after buying tickets in the height of tourist season). If it is cloudy, then wait for a sunny day to do the eye, otherwise it will be a waste.

    I visited the Movieum, which is basically a display of movies and memorabilia from movies filmed in and around the UK. Think lots of Star Wars, Harry Potter and Dr Who. I went to the Harry Potter display at the Kings Cross station, which was neat. I also traveled slightly outside of London to the Wested Leather "factory", and got myself fitted for an indy jacket.

    Stonehenge was good, but I was unable to get stone circle access which was disappointing, but if you get a chance, book one of the Stonehenge tours from London that includes access.

    Visit local pubs around where you are staying. Talk to people. Take in the sights. Do a hop on/off tour.

    If you really need Internet access, we had about a dozen internet cafes around our hotel where you pay by the hour. We only had to once to print off boarding passes.

  142. Bring it (or a netbook) by panZ · · Score: 1
    I regularly travel to London and Oxford on business and have been a tourist there as well. If you have a netbook, it'll be perfect. A laptop is also fine. You'll want it for researching stuff to do on the fly. Couch-surfing, pub-crawls, restaurants, etc. Internet Cafe's with actual computers are a dying breed. Most places expect you'll have your own hardware. There is no "region code" to change on your wireless. It'll work fine. Your laptop (and most any electronic) power supply already handles the 240V 50Hz power out there. It'll say on the power supply. All you need is a plug adaptor; a very passive, cheap device. If you bring a phone, make sure it is tri or better, quad band GSM and if you plan to use your US carrier, make sure to call them and add international use (free to add, expensive to use) so they don't block your phone from logging in out there.

    Be your own tourist. Some people here are telling you to go museums and what not. Tourists will tell you what bus tour is best. Forget all that. If you like to walk around town, the city is certainly walk/tubeable, even in winter. If you don't like museums much here, you won't there. If you're in to history, you'll love the place. Things like the Tower of London are a thousand years old. If you like pubs, there are some great, historical ones a tube ride away (e.g. The Hollybush pub in Hampstead). Like any metropolitan city, there is great fashion, food, arts and entertainment.

    Other things to be aware of. Hotel ratings are not like they are in the states. A three star hotel out there is awful with leaky plumbing and old furniture. Some of the hostels are actually quite nice though if you bring ear plugs. Look right before stepping in to the street. If you get a chance to drive and you like it out here, it is a blast out there! Oxford and Kent aren't far. Flights on discount airlines like Ryanair are cheap if you want to hop up to Scotland or Ireland. Don't over plan or overpack.

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  143. Starbucks by eldalion · · Score: 1

    Request a topup card from the nearest starbucks, put £10 on it, register the card online in the store. Free wifi in every UK starbucks.

  144. Leave it at Home by chiieddy · · Score: 1

    This is mainly personal preference, but I hate having my computer with me when I travel. I just leave it at home whenever possible. 1. Computer + hotel room (you're unlikely to be toting it around to museums and shopping) = good chance of theft (hope you have your drive encrypted) 2. Sometimes it's just good to get away from it all. 3. I've never had trouble finding an Internet cafe and grabbing a couple of minutes to check email and to let my family know I arrived safely. Bring a book (even two or three!) What better time to catch up on some great books, like SuperFreakanomics? Check out the museums in London. The best stuff stolen from all over the world! Don't miss Westminster Abbey. If you have the time, rent a car and take a trip out to Stonehenge. Enjoy your vacation and decompress!

  145. Two weeks in London is two weeks too long by OneSmartFellow · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'd stay long enough to change planes and head for someplace nice. Try a cheap flight to Malta, or Cyprus. Life's too short to be in England in the winter.

  146. Get a GSM phone by david.given · · Score: 1

    If you've got a compatible GSM phone, bring it. You can buy PAYG sims in most supermarkets --- Tesco's starts at 5 UKP (with 10 UKP of calling time). You don't need ID. Just plug it in and you have a proper working phone with a UK number and no roaming charges. Prices are usually around 10-20 pence per minute, although calls to other mobile networks are sometimes much more expensive (30 to 40 pence per minute). And because Britain is a civilised country, you don't pay for incoming calls and your minutes don't expire, which means that having such a phone is a really cheap way of being contactable.

    (Virgin Mobile also do GPRS data connections via PAYG at 30p a day, only on the days you use it, although you're heavily penalised if you go above 25MB a day. Not easy on GPRS.)

    If you don't have a compatible GSM phone you can normally buy one for stupidly small amounts of money. Again, at Tesco's they start at about 10 UKP for a LG GB102 with T-Mobile PAYG SIM. It's crap, but it'll let you do voice calls and text messages. (Yes, it's precisely the kind of simple phone that Anonymous Coward keeps complaining about not being able to get.)

    Remember, this is Europe; everyone has a phone, everyone uses text messaging, and if you're meeting friends here they'll be expecting you to have one.

    1. Re:Get a GSM phone by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      (Virgin Mobile also do GPRS data connections via PAYG at 30p a day, only on the days you use it, although you're heavily penalised if you go above 25MB a day. Not easy on GPRS.)

      T-Mobile does pay as you go data via UMTS or GPRS, if your phone supports it. It's capped at £1/day, but you can buy a 5-day pass for £2.50. The AUP is 40MB/day, but there are no charges if you go over it. They might kick you off if you go over too many times, but if you're only here for two weeks then you'll probably have left by the time they notice...

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  147. Its funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have always believed that I would never want the ability to block somebodies post. That is, up until I read a few of your posts. Now, I desperately want the ability to block just your posts. It seems like it is about the only way to keep from wasting my time, and later wanting my time back.

  148. If you've got time to travel around a bit... by Muad'Dave · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...visit the Falkirk Wheel in Sterling, Scotland. It's quite a feat of engineering, and thanks to Archimedes' principle, it takes very little power to turn it since the two boat slips always weight exactly the same regardless if one has a huge boat and the other is empty!

    Of course Edinburgh and Inverness are beautiful in their own right, so a jaunt through Scotland wouldn't hurt.

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  149. Movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bring a laptop just for the sake of having good movies to watch on the flight. Flying sucks if you havent got a laptop with you.

    Also it will make you life easier in London as you can look up tube journey and google maps etc to find your way around.

  150. Babbage Difference Engine by jagipson · · Score: 1

    Go get your picture taken with the Babbage Difference Engine, or a host of other analog computers.

    http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/

  151. Essentially to properly mark luggage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make sure you bring lots of "Canada" stickers for your luggage. Remember to spit on the ground if anyone mentions either President Bush and if anyone asks your national anthem is "Oh Canada". In a pinch the Queen's birthday is April 21 and just get pissed off if some one brings up Tony Blair.

  152. Geek, Leave it at home by happyfrogcow · · Score: 1

    Dear Geek,

    I recently traveled to Spain for 2 weeks and left my laptop at home and left my iPod buried in my carry-on. There was so much to see, eat and do that I didn't even think about missing it...

    Oh, you said England? Bloody hell, bring your laptop and a few spares.

  153. JUST GOT BACK LAPTOP ADVICE by fsgond · · Score: 1

    Recently I just got back from Spain with a brief layover in London. I did take my laptop and would recommend that you do if you want it. I faced similar problems when I get to Spain that you will face when you get to London here is what I found -The plug is different, the one in London is larger than the standard US plug with a different configuration. This mean that you will need a plug converter whether your laptop will work on the other voltage -You laptop may work on the 220. Look at the power supply for your laptop, you are looking for something that says 100-250V. The voltage could be somewhere between 220-240 if so than it will except the voltage, and you can only use a plug changer, if not you will need a voltage changer -Also check if it says something like freq 50/60 hz, most likely if it has the 220 voltage rating than it will have this but you need to check, I am unsure whether it is 50 or 60 so it working with both will be sure that you will not blow it up. -As for the wireless code, you should not have to change it, the entire time that I was in Spain I was able to get on the wireless with no problem -I would suggest taking it for offloading pictures. While we were in Spain we came back with 600 some pictures -I would suggest Skype if you can find a place with fast enough internet. It will save you a ton of money on calls back to the states. By the US only package and it will allow you as many calls as you want I work in computers and electronics as my profession, with that said the advice given above should be left as that. If you are still unsure please consult your owners manual and other qualified personnel. I hold no liability on any information given above.

  154. Science Museum, Duxford IWM or Hendon RAF museum by thaig · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Science Museum gets my top vote - I love it. You can see Babbage's difference engine, for example, or the NeXT cube that the WWW was born on.

    If you can afford a day then get on a train to Cambridge - there is a bus from there to the Duxford Imperial War Museum. There are a lot of wonderful aircraft (e.g. see the TSR2) and there is a land warfare exhibition too which is enormous. It's a lot of travelling but I loved it.

    There is a very good RAF museum that's closer at Hendon which is good if you can't make the longer trip.

    At Greenwich (gren-idge) you can see the observatory at 0 degrees longitude. The main geek interest here is seeing how the longitude problem was solved - I thought it was a wonderful story with a great moral for computer scientists and engineers about complexity.

    The Imperial War Museum in Lambeth is also pretty good.

    But it's worth catching a play or some music because those are the things which are best here.

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  155. Don't call it 'Merry old England'. Seriously. by arizonagroovejet · · Score: 1

    Don't call it 'Merry old England'. Seriously. There is a stereotype that of Americans being ignorant of anything outside their own country and who think that England is as portrayed in US TV shows such as the episodes of Friends and Bones which were set here. Using the phrase 'Merry old England' makes you sound like you conform to that and will not make you any friends here. If you're not already aware, spend ten minutes reading something like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uk so that you realise that England is not the same as the UK and that not all British people are English. People from Scotland are no more English than someone from New York state is a Texan.

    I've no idea what you mean about wireless region codes. You don't need to change your power cord, just buy an adapter. (Look around a bit before buying, it's the sort of thing for which you can pay wildly varying amounts.) The place you're staying probably has wireless, though some places charge ridiculous amounts. There is no shortage of Starbucks.

    Tipping people is not the norm.

    The Tube will get you pretty much anywhere you need to go within London.

    Make sure you look to the right then to the left when crossing roads.

    Make sure you check out the Lloyds building and the Gherkin

    1. Re:Don't call it 'Merry old England'. Seriously. by nomadic · · Score: 1

      Don't call it 'Merry old England'. Seriously. There is a stereotype that of Americans being ignorant of anything outside their own country and who think that England is as portrayed in US TV shows such as the episodes of Friends and Bones which were set here. Using the phrase 'Merry old England' makes you sound like you conform to that and will not make you any friends here. If you're not already aware, spend ten minutes reading something like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uk [wikipedia.org] so that you realise that England is not the same as the UK and that not all British people are English. People from Scotland are no more English than someone from New York state is a Texan.

      Come on, the best part about going to the UK is mortally offending Brits. They try so hard to put off this careless air, but get sooo defensive about any criticisms...

  156. a few advices... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Their food sucks. Really. Go to the typical foreign food restaurants. or MacDonalds.
    2. A macintosh is a raincoat.
    3. A bloke is just a guy.
    4. They say 'bloody' like Americans say 'f|_|ck'. Especially 'bloody heavens!'. A belligerant God, they have.
    5. Never walk with a sandwich in a paperbag in the tubes. police shoots first and check if you are a terrorist later. chances increases two orders of magnitude if you look vaguely middle-eastern, and five if you are Brazilian.

    1. Re:a few advices... by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      1. Their food sucks. Really. Go to the typical foreign food restaurants. or MacDonalds.

      You're advising a MacDonald's yet claiming that *our* food sucks?

      4. They say 'bloody' like Americans say 'f|_|ck'. Especially 'bloody heavens!'. A belligerant God, they have.

      No, we say fuck like you say fuck. We also say bloody, though I've never heard of "bloody heavens" - perhaps you were thinking of "bloody hell"?

      5. Never walk with a sandwich in a paperbag in the tubes.

      Actually, you touch on an important point - drinking alcohol, or carrying an open container of alcohol, on public transport, is illegal in London.

      Also remember that here a fag is a cigarette, so don't get all offended if someone asks you if you have any fags.

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  158. Greenwich, also Thames Barrier Park... by Mandi+Walls · · Score: 1
    Greenwich is very cool, the exhibits for kids are very well done. I did four days solo in London at the end of October and spent half a day in Greenwich. Easy to get to from the DLR. If the weather is nice, the views of the City and Canary Wharf are lovely.

    The Thames Barrier is something cool to see, too. It's on the DLR at Pontoon Dock station.

    The British Museum is awesome, but it's easy to OD and get into info overload. There is sooo much there.

    If you like theatre at all, there is a TKTS discount booth in Leicester Square that will have same-night tickets for almost anything playing in the West End, particularly on weeknights. Plus the Southbank Centre has some good concerts.

    The "Dressed to Kill" exhibit at the Tower of London is good, if it's not super crowded and you're into history much. Kew Gardens was a nice relaxing afternoon, too.

    Get a visitor's Oyster card before you go, and save yourself some hassle. In the US you can get them online from BritRail or VisitBritain. And if you're going to be there for two weeks, get on a train and head out to other places.

    And I took my netbook, to save pictures off my camera and do some school work. The Starbucks in London (they're even more numerous than in NYC, I think) have wireless that isn't free, but is at least reasonable and you can buy minutes that can be used over multiple sessions.

    I love London. While the Underground is super easy and goes all over the place, just walking is fascinating. There is such a mix of old and new architecture, and cool little things tucked all over the place.

    1. Re:Greenwich, also Thames Barrier Park... by SenseiLeNoir · · Score: 1

      As a Londoner, I am charmed at the words you and other tourists have said about our City. Sometimes in these sometimes "miserable" days, its nice to hear someone from abroad saying "hey you guys do something right!"

      Thank you very much for making my day.

      I hope I can one day visit NYC (London's 'sister' city) and be able to show the same gratitude.

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      Have a nice day!
    2. Re:Greenwich, also Thames Barrier Park... by arethuza · · Score: 1

      "cool little things tucked all over the place" - I don't think there is anywhere that has quite so many of these as London (and I'm from Edinburgh, Scotland - so that's not an easy thing for me to say). A good example is that although I've been to London many times, I've never been to the Tower, so on the last family visit we went there for the day. All standard stuff.

      Walking back to the Tower Hill tube station we took a shot cut through what appears to just be a wee park - actually it holds the memorials to the merchant navy sailors who died in Britain's wars since 1914 - with the names arranged by ship. With over 36,000 names it is quite a moving sight and I had never heard of it before! http://www.merchantnavymemorial.com/thm.htm

    3. Re:Greenwich, also Thames Barrier Park... by VJ42 · · Score: 1

      "cool little things tucked all over the place" - I don't think there is anywhere that has quite so many of these as London (and I'm from Edinburgh, Scotland - so that's not an easy thing for me to say).

      I was in Edinburgh during the fringe this year (first time), if anywhere has "cool little things tucked all over the place" it's Edinburgh in August; if only because it's all so close together (like my city, Southampton). Everything in London is spread out, and less walk-able; it's also nowhere near as visually stunning as Edinburgh, I've never been anywhere that is.

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    4. Re:Greenwich, also Thames Barrier Park... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed, you do have a point. If Edinburgh is the Athens of the North then London is perhaps the Rome of the North, or something like that.

  159. Royal Airforce Museum in Hendon by zzg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As many airplanes as you can shake a stick at.

    http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/index.cfm

    1. Re:Royal Airforce Museum in Hendon by bazorg · · Score: 1

      Take the Northern Line tube to Hendon Central, walk up the stairs and read the sign "The nearest station for the RAF museum is Colindale, walk back to platform 1 and take the first train."

    2. Re:Royal Airforce Museum in Hendon by zzg · · Score: 1

      True, sorry about the missinformation. In my defense, the homepage has way better route descriptions than I could hope to provide, and I did include a link =)

  160. BLEND IN! by erroneus · · Score: 1

    If you want the authentic, non-tourist experience, then you must do your best to blend in! For instance, you might pick out some nice attire like this:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00276/flag185x_276439a.jpg

    And since you already speak English, you may as well dress it up a bit as well. Practice your favorite British accents so that they won't think you're a "Yank." Sometimes it's even useful to create your own blend of British accents so that they won't know exactly where you're from. And never miss an opportunity to say "Guvna!"

    Also, taking a page from the "Friends" TV show, it often helps to "get into" the map. The roads and walkways are somewhat tricky I have heard. But failing your ability to get two-dimensional into a map, never be afraid to ask a local. Once again, using your British accent so they will not think you're a Yank and give you bad directions.

  161. BUY AN UMBRELLA by rnws · · Score: 1

    A good quality umbrella - but you're from Washington State - you already know all about rain :-D

  162. don't take YOUR laptop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    take a brand new netbook instead..... be easier and faster than cleaning up yours for future confiscation.

  163. Re:Science Museum, Duxford IWM or Hendon RAF museu by Tim+C · · Score: 1

    At Greenwich (gren-idge) you can see the observatory at 0 degrees longitude.

    Not to mention being able to stand with one foot in the West and one in the East.

    Also while we're on the subject of pronunciations, Leicester is pronounced "Less-ter" - useful if you're trying to find your way to Leicester Square (in the West End, where a lot of the theatres are) for instance.

  164. Greenwich Observatory by bencollier · · Score: 2, Interesting

    G.O. is really stunning and worth visiting. Go in the afternoon, then take one of the fast boats up the Thames from there to Central London as the sun is setting. Really very excellent, but make sure you know the boat times in advance. Visit LMNT in Hackney (http://www.lmnt.co.uk/) - It's a crazy restaurant and you'll see a different part of London. You could have gone to White Mischief (http://www.whitemischief.info/) for some Steampunk goodness, but it looks like it's not on while you're there so how about The Horse Hospital (http://www.thehorsehospital.com/). Plenty of interest to see there. Don't bother with a laptop, there's too much else to be spending your time on.

  165. Dorkbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    check on http://dorkbotlondon.org/ if there is an event during your visit. It can be very geeky. and the beer is usually cheap.

  166. Trip to London by Monty_Lovering · · Score: 1

    As you're from Washington Sates the weather will make you feel at home.

    Ignore ill-informed babble about crime; you're safer in London than any major metropolitan area in the USA, and if you are a victim of crime it is very unlikely to involve a firearm. Obviously act like a rube and flash expensive gear on the street in dodgy area and you only have yourself to blame if something gets snatched.

    Going to London for geeky high-tech is a bit like going to Mountain View for its long and rich history... dumb. London is London, Paris is Paris, don't expect them to not be what they are and you will have more fun than otherwise.

    Musts would be;

    1/ the complex of three museums (Natural History, Science, V&A) round Exhibition Road (South Kensington tube (tube = metro). All free.

    2/ the British Museum (Tottenham Court Road tube); not geeky but truely wonderful. We stole bits from every country and culture and have them on show in London. Only reason the pyramids aren't there is they were too big to ship back. Travel the Middle East and you will encounter labels in museums saying "this is a copy, the original is in the British museum".

    3/ Camden Lock (Camden Town tube); fantastic and sprawling market catering for every fashion and tribe, from ethnic hippy dippy through Gothic-Lolita-Punk through Rawk en Rowl to Cyber Punk. Good Monday - Saturday but best on Saturday (although busy the people who go are half the fun).

    4/ Portobello (Notting Hill or Ladbroke Grove tube); street market on Saturday; ranging from tatty "London" gifts to antiques, and again, big on the street scene.

    5/ The cluster of stuff you can see if you go to Parliament Square tube; Houses of Parliament, Westminster Abbey, Big Ben (yes, that's the bells name, the tower is called St. Stephen's); over the river you have the London Eye and a half-hour walk (you're from Washington State so can probably still walk) to the Tate Modern art gallery (in re-puposed old power station), back over the river on the Millenium Bridge (the one that got it in the neck in the opening sequence of the latest Harry Potter) to St. Paul's Cathedral. You can also walk 15 mionutes from Parliament Square to Trafalgar Square (Nelson's Column) seeing Downing Street (Prime Minister's house) on the way.

    6/ Covent Garden, tube of the same name. Lots of shops and street theatre.

    7/ The parks; when you need to chill, enjoy Hyde Park, Green Park, St. James's or Regent's Park.

    8/ Boat trip to Hampton Court (Henry VIII country pad), or by tube if you don't have an entire day to sit on the boat there and back. Other than the London Eye this is the only place on this list you have to pay for.

    9/ Tower of London. Again, you pay for it (£20 or so) but you come from somewhere where a bulding earlier than 1900 is OLD; this place was started shortly after 1066, and there are Roman ruins nearby over 2,000 years old.

    Enjoy it, it's a great city.

  167. Oyster Card - Bletchley Park - Royal Observatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bring your old inexpensive laptop or a brand new Netbook :-)

    Buy yourself an Oyster Card for travels
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyster_card

    You NEED to visit Bletchley Park
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bletchley_Park
    Take the train from London - 80 kilometers to the north.
    Go to Google Maps and print out a page with Bletchley and Bletchley Park
    so you can find your way with ease.
    Souvenirs for London and Bletchley can be bought in the shop where you buy your £10 ticket valid for 12 months.
    You might also see Milton Keynes while you are only kilometers away anyway.
    Take the bus and enjoy the park landscape.

    Highly recommended:
    The Royal Observatory Greenwich
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Observatory,_Greenwich

    Take the Docklands Rail and a local bus to get back and forth.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docklands_Light_Railway
    You want to see London above ground as well.
    The Oyster Card will prove to be an excellent solution
    when you crisscross London.

    Visit a Church:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Wren
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Paul%27s_Cathedral

    Buy yourself a Filofax - A souvenir for life :-)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filofax

    Print out a comprehensive list of all the good advise and bring it along.

    Before you travel home take the Subway to Brixton and buy yourself
    a suitable suitcase and some British Made cheap perfume :-)

    Bring or buy a cheap GSM phone and buy a Prepaid card for it.
    Might com in handy :-)

    He who is tired of London is tired of life :-)

    Happy Trails :-)

  168. Seconded... by dtmos · · Score: 1

    Cambridge is a fascinating place, especially for USian geeks. One can walk down an apparently ordinary street and see a small brass sign on an otherwise anonymous wall that notes that Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin there, Crick and Watson (the order is reversed in the UK from that usually heard in the US) discovered the structure of DNA there, or any number of other fundamental discoveries. Places that would be roped off from the masses in the US are just everyday parts of life in Cambridge, the epitome of British understatement.

  169. Food and drink. by Rufty · · Score: 2, Funny

    Remember, English food is bland, so if you get "pub lunch" you will need to cover everything with lots of English mustard. Better to go for some Indian meals, but even there Englishness has blanded everything down. Ask for a "Vindaloo" or better yet a "Bangalore Phal" and make sure you get it extra spicy. As for drink, there are parts of England that make a speciality out of cider (Sumerset and Herefordshire in particular) but anything called "scrumpy" (more natural, unprocessed cider) is fun for a jug or two.

    --
    Red to red, black to black. Switch it on, but stand well back.
    1. Re:Food and drink. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One more piece of advice, NEVER get fish and chips in a pub as it will usually be the same microwaved stuff you get at Tesco or Asda. Go to a proper chip shop, they should be easy to spot by having fish and chips on the menu and nothing else, they a counter with a fryer and the fish on display on top and you should not pay more than £6-7 for a full fish meal...

  170. To Edinburgh by jolyonr · · Score: 1

    A day trip to Edinburgh is just about practical (I did one earlier this year) if you fly there and flying is MUCH cheaper than the train! EasyJet fly their from London, probably other discount airlines do too.

    Week ticket might work better, but loses flexibility (for example, if you want to go to somewhere like the Royal Air Force museum at Hendon (well worth it) you'll need to have a zone 3 ticket if you go the weekly pass route. Also, depending on where you're staying in London, you might not need to use public transport every day. You see a lot more of a city when you walk!

    Also.. Don't go to Stonehenge. Long way to travel and far too expensive. If you're driving in the UK ever, you can drive past it on the A303, park somewhere past the official car park, walk back and see it for free from the fence. IMHO what you get when you pay to go in isn't much better.

    Other day trips that are worthwhile if you've got time include day coach trips to Oxford. There are various bus companies offering cheap return trips to Oxford from central London. Oxford Tube are one, and judging by the number of their busses I've overtaken driving up the M40 in the past they're probably quite frequent. There must be other companies too doing this.

    Jolyon

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    1. Re:To Edinburgh by jittles · · Score: 1

      I went to Stonehedge on the way to Bath and it's definitely not something to spend much time or money on, I agree. My train trip to Edinburgh was a day trip on the train. It was a long day but it was nice seeing the British countryside. So its a matter of preference. If you book in advance, flying is definitely cheaper.

      As for the tube, your point makes sense. I was staying with a friend in the Swiss Cottage area and typically took the tube to my first destination and then walked as much as possible. If you do need to take it every day and the week pass does make sense, can't one buy a zone 2 to zone 3 ticket for the day?

    2. Re:To Edinburgh by xaxa · · Score: 1

      You can also book a train in advance, which can bring the cost down to around the cost of the flight, and depending where you're starting from in London can be quicker (of course you go from centre to centre) and it avoids the cost and inconvenience of getting to and from the airports.

      Last time I went to Edinburgh I took the sleeper train, which leaves London (Euston) at about 23:00. When I took into account that I was saving the cost of a night in a hotel (or gaining half a day in Edinburgh, since I arrived at 7:20), the increased price was worth it. There was also a pub on the train, but I think that's more use if you travel further (e.g. Inverness).

      If you put a weekly ticket on an Oyster card and also put some pre-pay credit on it then you can travel outside the area covered by the weekly ticket. The normal weekly ticket covers zones 1 and 2, travelling into zone 3 costs something like £1 extra.

  171. Got Verizon? by Smuffe · · Score: 1

    The first thing you should do is get Verizon Wirelss for your laptop, then call and make sure to get the 0.02 *CENTS* / kB (not the other rate) plan, then surf away to your hearts content.

  172. Bring a netbook and nothing larger by DrXym · · Score: 1
    Wifi is not as ubiquitous as it is in the US but its still available (if you're lucky the hotel will offer it for free), but why haul a massive laptop to do a bit of web surfing? A netbook is the perfect tool for the job. Standard 2 & 3 pin power cables should be easy to come by as are adapters. Bring an ethernet cable too. A trip to Poundland may also be in order if you forget a cable or something. You can also prepay (no contract) 3G modems from O2 but you'd have to be there a while to justify one of those.

    As for geeky things to do, sit in your room and surf the web. Less geeky but still geeky might be to walk along Tottenham Court road (next to Oxford Street) and browse the computer shops. You can also bring your Anonymous mask and protest in front of the scientology center at the end of the road. The Trocadero next to Picadilly Circus houses Funland and various other attractions. Hamelys is also nearby. Further afield there might be a trade show on in Earl's Court worth visiting, then you have the Greenwich Martime museum, the HMS Belfast, the London Eye etc. Getting drunk is also a popular option.

  173. TSA Searches... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also remember that the TSA may search your laptop on reentry to the United States... (or is that only for us "foreigners"?)

    (So if you don't bring your laptop they can't search it.)

  174. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by RiotingPacifist · · Score: 1

    tfl website,is the best way to plan an A to B journey.
    Night buses (signified by an N infront of the name) run 0100-0500 and don't always run the same route as the day version
    Many bus stops have maps in them that make finding the bus you want easy
    An oyster card with a week pass, is going to cost a bit upfront but will save money if you use the tube 3/4 times a day

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  175. My tips by rpjs · · Score: 3, Informative

    * Get yourself an Oyster Card - you can get one from the tube stations at Heathrow Airport and are valid on most public transport in London including all Underground (tube) trains, all local (red) buses in London, some "overground" (i.e. not tube) trains (from 2nd Jan 2010 almost all trains in London will take it) and some river-boat services (the river boats are not cheap but can be a great way to see the sights along the river). You have to pay a £3 deposit plus whatever credit you'll want to start with, but you can get that back plus any unused credit by surrending the card at a tube station when you leave.

    * If you're flying into Heathrow and you don't have too much luggage, then the tube to central London is by far the cheapest option. There are also two "overground" rail services, the non-stop Heathrow Express (15 mins to central London) and the stops-at-local-stations Heathrow Connect (25 mins to central London). Both are rather more expensive than the tube, the Express especially so, and neither take Oyster. There used to be an Airbus services from Heathrow to central London but that stopped a few years ago. National Express run some coach (long distance bus) services to/from central London that call at Heathrow but they will be the slowest option and you may need to book your tickets in advance.

    * If flying in to Gatwick, then your best choice is rail to London. There are two services: Gatwick Express is a bit more expensive but faster and has more luggage space. Southern is likely to be a bit cheaper and not quite as fast. Be aware that although the two services are run by the same company, tickets on one may not be valid on the other. Neither will take Oyster as Gatwick is well outside the city boundary of Greater London. In the unlikey event you fly into Stansted (which doesn't have many flights to/from North America) then the same applies to the Stansted Express rail link. There are cheapish coach links from Gatwick and Stansted but they will be a lot slower.

    * Wherever you fly into, DON'T take a taxi into London unless you really need to and have LOTS of money! Having said that, if you're not sure how to get to a particular place, London cabbies have to spend several years learning "The Knowledge" and will always be able to get you to where you want to go, for a price.

    * I second the motion to go to Bletchley Park. This is outside of London but only about 45 minutes from Euston railway terminus by train. It is an absolute must see for any geek: not only does it have working replicas of the Turing "Bombe" and Colossus machines, but it has subsidiary museums on site of computing and other technology.

    * Amberley Chalk Pits museum in Sussex might be of interest to you too, with displays of agricultural and industrial technology, transport and communications (TV and radio museums). It's about an hour and a half from Victoria railway terminus.

    * If you're interested in transport, then the London Transport museum at Covent Garden in the centre of London is a must see.

    * If you do travel outside of London by train, then unless you're going long distance (more than a couple of hours from London) you won't need t

  176. museum to visit by Legionaire · · Score: 1

    Not sure if you are into military history, but if you are visit the Imperial War museum as well as the "blitz" experience in whitehall. Have a good time

  177. Yep take your laptop by mhughes2k · · Score: 1

    We're not entirely a backwater, and loads of public (BT) telephone kiosks now also provide a (paid for) wireless hotspot via BT Openzone, which if you have a partner account you may not even have to pay for (or at least get it invoiced home...)

  178. Stonehenge and Bath by rlp · · Score: 1

    Stonehenge and Bath are day trips out of London (you can go via tour bus if you don't have a car). If you have an interest in history and neo-lithic and Roman engineering it's well worth a trip.

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    1. Re:Stonehenge and Bath by DrOct · · Score: 1

      An excellent suggestion that I'd forgotten about! Stonehenge is worth seeing and Bath is a wonderful little place to visit!

  179. Consider getting a Visitor Oyster Card in advance by gdav · · Score: 1

    Details here - it will make your use of public transport (bus, tube etc) faster and cheaper - you just touch it to open the barriers. Oh, and leave the laptop, there are plenty of internet cafes.

  180. Re:HSDPA modem, was dont overthink by teh+kurisu · · Score: 1

    Do those still roam on Orange's 2G network when out of range of 3's 3G network? We bought one for our office (in a 2G area, 2G was fine for us) and then 3 binned the roaming agreement. I'd heard that they'd reinstated it though.

  181. Region codes on WiFi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think you are mixing up WiFi with GSM. There is no need to change anything on WiFi, but if you have a GSM phone it may well not work as almost everywhere else uses different frequencies to the US. In the UK we use 900 and 1800MHz, whereas the US uses 850 and 1900MHz.

     

  182. wifi map by stoltzstrop · · Score: 1

    the Londonist has a nice free wifi map available: http://londonist.com/2007/05/free_wifi_in_lo.php

  183. Obligatory Snatch quote by Sodki · · Score: 1

    - Anything to declare?
    - Yeah, don't go to England.

  184. Don't miss out Thames House by PhilJC · · Score: 1

    If your geekiness extends to security related subjects then I recommend the Thames House tour which starts from the third floor reception at around 10am each day. It's a pretty long tour so you may want bring some lunch in a rucksack and camera &/or a video camera is essential.

    No need to book in advance as not a lot of tourists know about the tour - when I went the receptionist on the ground floor didn't even know about it and I had to kick up a right fuss before they gave in and let me up to where it started!

    Have a fun trip!

  185. London travel tips for American geeks by yelvington · · Score: 1

    Some London travel tips for American geeks:

    When deciding whether to take your laptop, consider also the need to have a British power plug adapter, which is designed for arc welding and heavier than the average netbook. On the upside, you can put it in a sock and use it as a weapon should you choose to join the locals in a round of football hooliganism.

    As an American geek, you've seen lots of girls on the Internet. In Soho you can see them standing in doorways, inviting you in for a drink. They are not for you. They come equipped with bodyguards who will offer to not break your legs in exchange for your ATM card.

    Wi-fi is everywhere, and you can buy access from BT Openzone. However, assume that British intelligence is logging your keystrokes. This is not an invasion of privacy, as they already were watching you from the camera you didn't notice.

    If offered something that looks like a sausage and is called a pudding, don't touch it. The tube contains floor-sweepings from a slaughterhouse, mostly sawdust and blood and spilled entrails. However, the "scotch egg" is quite edible, basically a boiled egg wrapped in sausage, breaded, and deep fried, so you know it's good for you.

    As an American you are probably unaccustomed to public transit, so you will be amazed to discover people riding quaint little trains that can take you all over the city underground. They are full of people reading something called "books" that are made out of paper, sort of a pre-technology Kindle. When not reading books, the locals read something called a "newspaper." A major continuing story is the surprising discovery every day of a large-breasted woman, usually featured on the third page. You can skip the rest of the paper, as it's completely fictional.

    About the time your biological clock tells you it's time to wake up, the local time will be past midnight and the underground transit system will shut down. Avoid the night buses. They differ from the ones in Harry Potter only in their inclusion of large numbers of drunken football hooligans. Just walk. You can actually walk halfway across central London in 20 minutes. It is good practice for the transit strike that is bound to be called during at least one day of your visit.

  186. Wikitravel.org by tverbeek · · Score: 1

    Wikitravel is your friend. While you're at it, become Wikitravel's friend and contribute.

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    1. Re:Wikitravel.org by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      Wikitravel is your friend. While you're at it, become Wikitravel's friend and contribute.

      "Mostly Harmless"

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      Bow-ties are cool.
    2. Re:Wikitravel.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gosh, I'll bet you're the first person to think of submitting that.

  187. Ahh, London in December by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'll get to see the rain and, if you're really lucky, sleet (that's what they call snow in London).

  188. NO LAPTOP by K2tech · · Score: 3, Insightful

    DO NOT TAKE YOUR LAPTOP I'm an IT manager with 15 years experience and work for a company with global operations and travel often. I was also in the USAF and traveled to Europe (primarily Germany) many times. That having been said, the laptop is more hassle than its worth. Unless you have a real-time business need, leave it behind. Its a hassle while traveling and you'll worry about it constantly not to mention the extra bag. Bring a camera and maybe a digital voice recorder or a movie camera. Enjoy a the vacation for what it is and not worry about answering e-mails. Leave the US behind and just enjoy Europe.

    1. Re:NO LAPTOP by timeOday · · Score: 1

      Especially since SD cards are so cheap now, there's no need to upload photos while on the trip.

    2. Re:NO LAPTOP by uncledrax · · Score: 1

      I concur, but I'm gonna put a small spin on it.. when I was in Frankfort DE earlier this year I definitely left the laptop at home, but I did have access to a Nokia N800 'palm top'.. most of the time it sat in a pocket, but when I needed to lookup something like train routes to other towns, or museum hours while eating lunch, it worked great.

      yes, I could easily just goto the local bahnhof and get a schedule, but that could be out of the way.

      But as for what other people say, if you bring a portable computing device, use it as a substitute for a dead-tree help guide. Honestly I don't think you'd even need something like that in the UK since there is no language barrier (well.. not really ;] )

      If you're sitting on a plane for as long as you are, go to enjoy yourself.

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  189. Go surfing fool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ditch the laptop, buy a surfboard and head down the coast. You need a holiday not more geek time.

  190. Mod parent up by EdgeyEdgey · · Score: 1

    Oyster card saves you loads, and you can get your £3 deposit back at the end.
    The express trains from the airports are a bit of a rip off. You can usually find a standard service that will only take 10 mins longer.
    Walking with an A-Z is highly recommended too. Lot's of things are close together.

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  191. Leeds Royal Armouries is good too by Xest · · Score: 1

    The UK has a good London - North train network. For about £10 - £15 you can get a ticket from London to Leeds and vice versa, and it only takes 2hrs. If you stay there for a day you've got the Royal Armouries and then you can go to York for a day which is also full of stuff to do.

    The Royal Armouries is a nice addition to doing the imperial war museum because it covers the areas the war museum doesn't having everything from stone age weaponry to samurai weaponry and armour to modern day sniper rifles.

    If you like military history then the two complement each other amazingly well!

    The great thing about travel in the UK is it's so small, if you go to London then you're at most only about 5 hrs from the furthest reaches of the country by train.

    1. Re:Leeds Royal Armouries is good too by Doug+Neal · · Score: 1

      The UK has a good London - North train network. For about £10 - £15 you can get a ticket from London to Leeds and vice versa, and it only takes 2hrs.

      That is a hugely optimistic best case scenario, both on the fare and the journey time. Maybe if you booked it months in advance, traveled at "super off peak" times, and stuck rigidly to the service you have booked you could get from London to Leeds for £15. But probably not. I've just priced the journey up on National Rail Enquiries and the walk-up non-advance fare is £84. Travel in peak times and that will go up to £134.

    2. Re:Leeds Royal Armouries is good too by Xest · · Score: 1

      Or alternatively you could go to the East coast mainline site and get tickets within the bounds of prices I state without having to travel at rediculous times:

      http://www.eastcoast.co.uk/

      I've made the journey many a time, the most I ever need to pay is £23 and that's for first class travel, I usually only book a couple of days before.

      Walk up fares are high though, you're right about that at least. Still if you're on holiday then planning a couple of days to go North a few days ahead of time is hardly much of a problem. Looks like the lowest price is £11 now too not £10, but I just tried a few journeys over the next few weeks upto and beyond xmas and there's plenty of tickets for £11, £13 and such. Try it, you might be suprised by how decent the east coast main line actually is. You even get free Wifi all the way.

  192. buy a newbook and european adapter by capsteve · · Score: 1

    If you must bring technology(computer) i would suggest that you buy a netbook, more portable that traditional lappy, and less worries if it's damaged/stolen. Don't forget to buy an adapter from a suitcase/luggage store, they're pretty cheap, unless you buy one at the airport. If you gorget to buy an adapter state-side, most hotels will have them for rent or courtesy loans. Try to do visit/participate in very Londonesque tourist activities, i.e. riding the tube, eating fish and chips, riding a double decker, ordering a pint, taking picts of the beefeaters, walking across london bridge, etc. take lots of photos and post them on flickr/picasa.

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  193. Or do something completely off the wall. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Funny you should ask. I'm from Chicago, IT geek by trade, decided to spend the last two weeks of December in London. I also like to at least try to do a bit of extra good during the holidays, which didn't sit too well with giving myself a rather expensive vacation. I solved that personal dilemna by volunteering with www.crisis.org.uk, a homeless aid group based in London. For me travel has always been more about the people you meet than the sightseeing. I can tell you from personal experience, there's no better, faster way to make lifelong friends than to work with strangers on a good cause.

  194. Nah, the only decent americans are not over this t by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1

    Nah, the only decent americans are not over this time of year. Come may-june, you see them in europe. The rest of the year you get their children and grand-children. You can keep them.

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  195. Not much of a hassle by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

    It's really not that much of a hassle to bring your laptop. I found that I never actually needed to change my wifi card region in London and Nuremberg when I was there over the summer, and since your laptop can most likely handle 240V already, you just need a very small power adapter. The one I used was just slightly more than one cubic inch and could convert between any combination of British, European, US, and what I think was Australian power. Shouldn't cost you much either.

  196. Plan for only one carry-on item ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't have time to check all the comments, so I don't know whether this has been mentioned already, but unless the policy has changed recently, British airport security, at least at Heathrow, will only allow you to take one carry-on item through security. All other places I have been, you can take one carry-on bag plus a laptop bag, but that has not been true in London since their brush with terrorists a couple of years back.

    You'll be able to fly *to* London with two items, but you won't be able to return with two items, or even continue on to another British destination with two items.

    So plan accordingly. If you are going to take your laptop, don't plan on bringing another carry-on item. At least not if you want to bring both back as carry-on.

  197. re-order your priorities by gmccloskey · · Score: 1

    Dude,
    leave the laptop. you have two weeks in a new country / continent, why sit down with a laptop? If you want to email or blog, there are many internet kiosk/ cafe type places.

    Seriously, leave it.

    Two weeks is too long in London. Give yourself a day to get over jetlag, and 1-2 days to cover the major attractions. Then take the next ten days to travel around, and come back to london to a final sweep of interesting places, and get ready for the flight.

    You can grab a train to Paris (France), and spend a day or two there - get another country in. Get a flight to Dublin, Cork or Belfast (45 mins) Yet another country.

    1. Re:re-order your priorities by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I disagree. I've had my laptop with me most times when I've been travelling and it's incredibly useful to be able to check the web sites of various things you want to see (to check locations and opening times) and plan a route for the day using Google Maps or similar. It can save a lot of time spent in tourist information type places going through leaflets (which are always out of date). Most hotels provide free WiFi these days, so you can do your planning in the morning or evening.

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  198. I JUST Came Back From MY first London Trip by stonetony · · Score: 1

    I was traveling from the US. Here are a few things I learned that I don't see already mentioned above:

    -Wireless is everywhere and advertised as "free," but typically requires that you have a cell account with either "Orange" or "O2," the two major cell players there. After struggling to find truly free wifi I went ahead and paid for a one month subscription with Boingo. I was actually using my iphone (sim password protected to prevent cell usage) so the cost was $7.99, but for a laptop the charge is $9.99 for one month. Even if you won't be there for a month this is a relatively small amount to pay for wireless access all over London. There is no contract and I canceled the account as soon as I got home.

    -If you want to call back to the US I suggest Skype. For under $3 you can make unlimited phone calls back to the US for a month. Again, you can cancel this subscription once you return home.

    -Get Tube and Bus Maps! Despite popular opinion the tube system is clean and safe and the double-decker buses are fun to tour around in. You can go to a bus or tube ticket counter and get day passes for $20US (You pay in British Pounds, but I'm converting) that let you use the mass transit system in the downtown London area all day. Check with the ticket agent to find out if there are cheaper or extended offers for multi-day passes.

    - Be wary of paying for a "London Bus Tour" I took one of these for 20BP and didn't realize the buses stop running at 4:30 PM. I ended up getting stranded outside of Buckingham Palace and had to pay tube fare back to where I started. These tours aren't a bad idea if you don't know where everything is or don't want to have to worry about navigating the public transit system to see all of the sights.

    As for things to do, well, I think I either did or saw everything worth seeing. If you are a history buff you can spend literally months reading all of the historical markers throughout the city. For reference my list of must-see locations can be found here (via a facebook photo album) where I took pictures of my daughter's toy giraffe everywhere I went: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/album.php?aid=30617&id=1629570049

    1. Re:I JUST Came Back From MY first London Trip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      McDonalds and (some???) wetherspoons and varsity pubs have free wifi. A lot of independent cafes, restaurants, pubs etc have free wifi but in some the access point is not open and you need to ask staff for the key.

      For about £20-£50 (depending on bundled data) you can get a prepaid 3G dongle from most of the major mobile networks (Three, O2, T-Mobile,Orange and Vodafone). I've got a three one and you get 1gb for £10, 3 gb for £15 or 7gb for £20 all valid for 30 days. Given the cost of non-free wifi and internet cafe's this is a much cheaper way to get online but in some places the networks maybe a bit congested or signal will be poor.

      Remember that there is so much more to England (and the rest of the UK) than London. If your interested in geeky history i'd suggest a trip to Bristol home of the SS Great Britain, Brunel's steam powered ship. Bristol is only about 3 hours by train/bus from London and doable as a day trip, if you take off peak trains on a weekday or megabus you can get there pretty cheaply if not the ticket could be expensive.

      If you want to travel further afield i'd suggest Cornwall (this is not a day trip), the most southerly and western county in England. Just beyond Penzance (where the train line and good roads end, there are loads of trains from Paddington station to Penzance) there is the Porthcurno Telegraph museum where the first telegraph cables went under the atlantic. Nearby on the Lizard (england's most southerly point) is Earthstation Goonhilly where the dishes used for the first transatlantic TV broadcast are. BT used goonhilly up until recently to route most of the UK's international satellite calls, but I think they've now stopped using it and its just a museum. More recently they built something called the Eden project in cornwall which is basically a giant greenhouse built out of an old clay quarry.

  199. Re:HSDPA modem, was dont overthink by CaptainOfSpray · · Score: 1

    Don't know - there was one specific location we wanted, it was in the coverage map, but did not work even on 3G, still less HSDPA. No HSDPA was a show-stopper for us, so we returned it and cancelled the contract. [here was nothing wrong with the device or the install - it worked fine in other useless locations].

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  200. Blighty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    England you say? Don't forget your toothbrush :)

  201. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TFL: Tube for London, aka the subway.

    In fact, it stands for Transport For London, and is the name of the organization that runs the Tube, as well as the buses, etc.

  202. douchbag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you come off as a complete douchebag because of your obvious lack of knowledge of the world outside the usa. asking stupid questions that make it obvious you think the world outside the usa is a backwater just makes me want to punch you in the face. take the two weeks off and do nothing but read up on te places you'll go NEXT TIME you take time off. going in your current state is just going to help hold up the stereotype that americans are all ignorant douchebags

    1. Re:douchbag by DrOct · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure this guy is the real douchbag here...

  203. What was that word again... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    Ah yes!

    Woosh!

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    1. Re:What was that word again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Woosh!

      If you need to post a "woosh!" (sic), maybe your "joke" wasn't that "funny."

  204. Camden town by evilkasper · · Score: 1

    While you are in London, you will most likely end up using the tube. You will see that there is the normal service area and then the extended area. in the extended area is Camden Town, might not be your cup of tea but there are some good clubs, pubs and interesting little shops. There was a fire there a few years back so I don't know what made it through. There are some places you want to avoid, and it will be pretty obvious you don't belong. Bullox to everyone that says the UK doesn't have good food. Pub food rocks, hunters chicken especially, also if you like Thai food there is usually a lot of that to be found.

  205. Urban myth by Kupfernigk · · Score: 1
    If you check Dante's Inferno (around 1300AD,long before the French Revolution) you will find that they had lanes on the bridges and that people had to keep right. The same goes at sea.

    However, the idea that a majority drive on the right may be doomed in the long term. Much of Africa, Japan, the UK and India drive on the left. (Australians and Maltese famously drive in the shade.) A lot will depend on who (if...) develops a car economy first, China or India.

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  206. Modified RFC1149.. use swallows Re:Inet kiosks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While RFC1149 does not specify the form of avian carrier for your IP datagrams, traditionally pigeons have been used. However, being in the land of King Arthur, Camelot, etc, perhaps you should consider swallows? higher airspeed, reputedly, and they can grip the datagram by the husk.

  207. A few pointers by Mattskimo · · Score: 1

    While drinking alcohol on public transport and smoking in train stations is technically illegal, if you smoke at the far end of (overground) platforms, away from covered areas and aren't a rowdy dick on public transport then people won't say anything. If you smoke, carry an empy pack as scumbags are always asking for one. It's a lot easier to pull out an empty pack and say "sorry mate, this is my last one" than telling them to fuck off. Don't ever go to TGI Fridays or Angus Steakhouses. If you really must go to a place like that then go to Frankie & Bennie's. But don't. Only go to Camden market if you really must. It's apparently a massive tourist pull but it's only worth going to if you want (usually fake) drugs or overpriced tshirts with "witty" slogans or the name of a crap band on them. If you're skeptically inclined then you can't go far wrong with London Skeptics in the pub. It's held in a Wetherspoons pub so the drinks are reasonably priced for the location and the talks and company are of a high standard. http://london.skepticsinthepub.org/ Generally chain pubs are awful but I highly recommend vodka revolution if you see one. Of the many deli chains Eat is probably your best bet but it can be a little pricey. If you're around the Covent Garden area I highly recommend a vegetarian restaurant/cafe called Food For Thought. It gets mixed press but I find it to be cheap and the food of a decent enough quality.

    1. Re:A few pointers by digitig · · Score: 1

      If you're around the Covent Garden area I highly recommend a vegetarian restaurant/cafe called Food For Thought. It gets mixed press but I find it to be cheap and the food of a decent enough quality.

      It's done a lot to transform the image of vegetarian food, but I don't think it's particularly cheap. For cheap, go for the all-you-can-eat vegetarian lunchtime buffet at Chi on Upper St. Martin's lane (not far from Covent garden), or the similar place with a better selection and a name I can't remember on Euston Road. About £5, and much better quality than you'd expect for the price.

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  208. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by gclef · · Score: 1

    Gah, early morning brain fail.

  209. British humour by DavMz · · Score: 1
    As you can see from many of the posts above, British people have a very peculiar sense of humour. It's ok, because they don't expect you to understand it. And in the case it makes you laugh, they will reasonably assume you missed the point.

    More on topic, revising your vocabulary might be useful to avoid some misunderstandings.

  210. Check out "old-school tech". by grimmfarmer · · Score: 1
    A lot of people have recommended visiting cathedrals, especially St. Paul's. And St. Paul's is extremely cool -- the Whispering Gallery really is amazing. Whichever you visit, though -- and I'd recommend Salisbury Cathedral, if you're going to get out into the country and see, say, Stonehenge -- see if you can find any of the literature (usually in the gift shop) about how people built such goram huge stuff nearly eight hundred years ago. The contraptions they built to haul huge blocks of stone high into the air are to die for, when it comes to "old-school tech".

    Oh, yeah: If you're at all a music (or physics) geek, I think Salisbury has a 64' rank on its pipe organ. I might be making that up, though. Have a great trip.

    1. Re:Check out "old-school tech". by grimmfarmer · · Score: 1

      Ah: Apparently, that's a 32' rank. I must've been much smaller when visiting Salisbury. ;-)

  211. Stonehenge and Bath in December? No way. by Kupfernigk · · Score: 1

    This is a troll, right? I live in the area, and believe me, I do not go to either in December. Bath has one of the most polluted city centers in the UK, recently spoiled by a ghastly US-style shopping mall, and Stonehenge is the most dismal reason for getting rid of the Environment Agency quango you can imagine; a long history of mismanagement at the greedy hands of the Heritage Industry. They are tolerable from May to October, but that's about it.

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  212. Whenever you come across a portrait of the Queen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    don't forget to stare at it. The laugh a little bit. They love it. They also consider a sign of respect to photograph policemen working at public buildings.

  213. London in December by awol · · Score: 1

    Ah, pre-christmas in London. Oxford and Regent Streets window displays and in particular "Liberty" (http://www.liberty.co.uk/fcp/content/find_us/content), buy some chestnuts (they may or may not be roasted on an open fire) wander around looking at the poor folk stressing about crowds/shopping. Marvel at the crowds. Many, many Christmas drinks to be had at that time of year, try "The City" almost any evening, many pubs many suits many parties.

    Don't bother with your laptop. Frankly I wouldn't even bother with a camera, just get a PAYG camera phone on your way in and if you need more microSD cards as you go along just buy 'em. Besides I would lean towards searching out the kind of fun for which you would prefer for there to be no photgraphic evidence at all, there is a fair bit of that to be had in London.

    Don't know how old you are, but Shoreditch (Cargo Bar, anything at all on the Shoreditch High Street) for the young, Kensington and Chelsea for the glam (or wanna be :-), Soho for the mixed. Covent Garden and Leceister Sq for the tourists. Other locales; Islington, Clerkenwell, Borough (try the markets on the weekend). And that's without even leaving the "Circle Line" (much).

    See some stand up comedy (http://www.99clubcomedy.com/home.html). Try a different countries cuisine every night. Pick at least one Fine Dining restaurant if you can, the best are superb. Definitely go clubbing, if that's not your thing look for some live bands. Grab a TimeOut magazine and just pick stuff.

    London can be really "isolating", but if you make the effort and just try and connect with people that are doing the kind of things you want to do, you'll find them (mainly the foreigners :-) really welcoming. I find that during the pre christmas time people are much more friendly so it should be easy enough to do.

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  214. Re:HSDPA modem, was dont overthink by alecwood · · Score: 1

    Just been to Slovakia and mine was connected to Orange's network all the time I was there, so I guess they must have reinstated it

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  215. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by crimperman · · Score: 1

    > Where are you staying? If it's a secure place, then bring your laptop

    "secure place" - this *is* London you know? We have cameras galore. All pointing at you and all accompanied by signs which say they are for "your security and safety".

    Secure place, indeed.

  216. Do your research. by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

    The thing to remember is that although their language and culture are similar to ours, there are lots of little differences that will trip you up. Do your research. It's getting a little dated now, but there was a wonderful documentary series on English life a few years back that will really help you get a feel for the place.

    And don't forget that you'll need to install the Region 2 distro of your OS, or your laptop won't work over there. To play it safe you might also want to pack a PAL-to-NTSC converter for the display.

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  217. Geek thing to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go see the Harrison clock. It is not in London but close (I think). Not the Longitude clocks (which are cool too) but the all wood clock in the top of stables at Brocklesby Hall. Here is a pdf on the referb... http://www.bhi.co.uk/hj/April05AOM.pdf

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  218. Places to go outside of London by crimperman · · Score: 1

    If you get a chance you could try and see a bit more of the UK than just London. The Lake District is very nice and I hear that the small village of Cockermouth is very popular right now.

  219. Re:HSDPA modem, was dont overthink by fbjon · · Score: 1

    That's Orange in Slovakia. It doesn't mean that roaming on Orange in the same country would work.

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  220. Definitely see the Dana Centre at the Science Mus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As someone who permanently moved from the US to London, I can definitely concur with everyone recommending the Science Museum. In fact, a few years ago they had a special exhibition about video games, where they had for display and playing every console from the original Magnavox Odyssey to the brand new (at the time) Wii and Playstation 3. And a few arcade and Japanese games (train driving simulators, Robot driving simulators that had more controls than a A380) as well! If you aren't traveling with children, definitely go to the science museum on Wednesday evenings, as it's an adults night with activities, open bar, slient discos, etc...

    One thing I would recommend that hasn't been discussed here yet is the Dana Centre, which is part of the Science Museum but organises some very interesting talks and events. For example, they had an evening where a scientist gave a lecture about human attraction and mating, then followed it up with speed dating. It's very fun and educational, and popular with Londoners as well as tourists.

  221. Give them a hand by halcyon1234 · · Score: 1

    Instead of a laptop, why not bring with a tire and some gas, and give them a hand with those speed cameras?

  222. Buy an Oyster Card by vtechpilot · · Score: 1

    If you are being cost aware, or just prefer to use public transportation, get an Oyster Card. An Oyster card is a prepaid fair card for the Underground and buses. It costs a £3 deposit, plus any fair you choose to put on it. The system automatically calculates the cheapest ticket combination for whatever travel you do. Therefore if you only use it for a single trip in day, it debits for that trip, however if you use it several times, it debits up to the cost of a day pass which is much cheaper than single tickets. When you leave you can return the card and get refunded the deposit and any fair on the card. If you are fly in and out of Heathrow Airport, there are kiosks in the airport for the cards. If you are flying into Gatwick, you can take the train from the airport to Victoria Station which will also have kiosks for the Oyster card.

    Also don't bother using currency exchanges. No one ever seems to change enough, and if you change too much you can get burnt converting the extra back. You can use your bank's ATM card in the cash machines here. Don't take out too much cash, just a little pocket money for the occasional taxi or ice cream cone. For all other purchases I recommend using a credit card for purchases for the fraud protection (usual warnings about knowing your financial limits apply.) Some ATM, Debit, and Credit card providers block foreign transactions by default. You can usually contact them and explain you will be traveling to specific countries on specific days and will remove the block for you. This usually isn't a problem in the UK, but its worth checking anyway. Definitely check with your banks if you plan on making a side trip to France; everybody seems to block French transactions.

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  223. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by aunt+edna · · Score: 1

    A-Z as in A-to-Z as in A-to-Zed (leave 'Zee' at home.)

  224. Just remember.. by cheros · · Score: 1

    .. your laptop/notebook will be accessed when you travel BACK, not when you go to the UK.

    Oh, and make sure you don't look like a Brazilian electrician when you travel on the London Underground, it's bad for your health. Speaking of health, smoking is banned on the London Underground but you'll see plenty people smoke as the worst that can happen is a gazillion repeats of the "smoking is forbidden" tape unless you are unlucky and the Transport police is around (see previous remark about not looking like a Brazilian electrician).

    Personally I wouldn't bother with a laptop - plenty of cybercafes, and what you don't have cannot be stolen. Take a book on the Underground so you have something to do when it gets stuck. You could also amuse yourself with collecting all the Underground brochures and see which one mentions that you're entitled to a refund if you're 15 minutes delayed. I'm going to ruin that for you: the answer is "none" because they have been hiding that since it was introduced 12 years ago. You will also discover the system is saturated with people who tend to miss their annual baths, and it spreads viruses faster than Microsoft Outlook. Always wash your hands..

    Make sure you go to the Science Museum - actually, you can lose whole days in there - South Kensington station. That also used to be the station to exit if you were planning to meet Mark Shuttleworth, but Canonical now has offices along the Thames instead.

    Oh, and in case no-one has mentioned it - it rains quite often in London. This means taxis disappear and it gets even busier in the Underground.

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  225. Leave it at home by coldsalmon · · Score: 1

    Presumably you want to experience the place to which you are traveling. To that end, get off the internet, and leave your phone at home too. The "real world" will be scary at first, but you'll like it.

  226. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TFL: Tube for London, aka the subway

    Transport for London. They run the tube and regulate the buses, taxis, road, river taxi, etc.

    The tube's only a nickname, its really called the London Undergound.

  227. london ? by godrik · · Score: 1

    There is nothing to do in London

  228. Cabinet War Rooms! by DrOct · · Score: 1

    Not sure if anyone else has suggested it (probably but just in case...) I would HIGHLY suggest going to visit the Cabinet War Rooms where Churchhill and his advisers planned WWII. It's pretty fascinating in general and if you're a history nerd at all it'll be doubly so. I've been there just about everytime I've been in london for any period of time and it never get's old. The last time I was there (back in 2003) they were in the midst of a major expansion of the areas that would be open to the public so it's probably bigger and more interesting now than it was when I was last there. It's not hugely well known but it's really really awesome (and at least everytime I was there not super crowded. There were still certainly people there, but it wasn't jam packed). Anyway that's my tourism suggestion to everyone who asks about cool things to see in London, since most of the other big attractions are more well known.

    Oh I'd also suggest checking out Camden Town.

    1. Re:Cabinet War Rooms! by DrOct · · Score: 1

      Oh, and since you're going to be there for 2 weeks consider taking the train up to Edinburgh in Scotland. The train-ride will take all day, but you get to see a pretty big cross section of England and Scotland, and Edinburgh is one of my favorite cities in the world. Plus if you're a golfer you can make a pilgrimage to St. Andrews (a town I love in it's own right. I spent a semester there in college) with a rather short train ride from Edinburgh.

  229. Tower Bridge by slim · · Score: 1

    I'm struck that nobody mentioned Tower Bridge, and I assume that's because few know about the geek joy within.

    Most people will recognise the bridge - it's one of London's archetypal images. Many will walk over it, or admire it when they visit the Tower of London itself.

    What few realise is that beneath the faux-baroque brickwork, is a marvel of Industrial Revolution engineering. If you pay to go inside, you can go on the walkway, but most importantly, you can see the original steam driven mechanisms that opened and closed the bridge. The bridge was steam powered until 1974!

    It's a terrific exhibition, and fairly cheap. £6 I think?

  230. Don't bring the laptop by PmanAce · · Score: 0

    Seriously, I wouldn't bring it. It is a vacation, enjoy your stay, mingle with the locals and leave the laptop at home. You can use all you want at home, just don't waste your time with it especially when it is your first trip overseas. I spent a month in Spain recently and used the net maybe 4 times. Didn't need to offload pictures, I just kept buying memory sticks (14 gigs of videos/pictures).

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  231. T-Mobile in Europe by el+QuesoGrande · · Score: 1

    If you've got T-Mobile with internet service, you can pretty much get online for free anywhere in Europe. Here's a listing of T-Mobile HotSpots.

    https://selfcare.hotspot.t-mobile.com/locations/retrieveGlobalLocationByCountry.do?country=UK

    Also, laptops are almost all 120/240 dual voltage. Just look on the power block part of the power adapter. You should just need a cheap <10 dollar adapter. NOT an expensive converter. If you're lucky, your power adapter will have the kind of removable plug/cable most radios, DVD players, etc, have coming out of it you can swap cheaply. I keep one for mainland europe, the UK and the US. They're just as cheap and way more convenient. Like this:

    http://www.national-tech.com/specs/power-cable/10w1-13406.htm
    http://www.national-tech.com/specs/power-cable/10w1-15406.htm

    They have the added bonus of not marking you out as a tourist.

  232. Food advice. by Delusion_ · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I lived in England for two years. Skip traditional "English" food, it's bland and tedious unless you have strong feelings about boiled meat. The one exception is probably pub fish and chips; it's an authentic part of the experience and you don't want to miss that.

    Otherwise, stick to ethnic food; in London, you can usually eat the world within a few blocks. England was a nation that had to conquer an empire just to find a delicious meal. We'd hit Thai joints in Cambridge and London with an American Thai speaker; every time he'd open his mouth, the price would halve, and the portions and pepper heat would double. It was fantastic.

    1. Re:Food advice. by radish · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well I lived in England for 30 years and I have no idea what you mean by "boiled meat"...I don't think I've ever had such a thing (possibly outside of a NYC hotdog, although calling that meat is a stretch). Traditional British food is much maligned but really good when done well, but modern British cooking has borrowed heavily from other parts of the world - just like some other places you might be more familiar with. Or did you think Pizza was invented in the US?

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    2. Re:Food advice. by JustNiz · · Score: 2, Informative

      >> I lived in England for two years.
      When? in word war 2?

      >> Skip traditional "English" food, it's bland and tedious

      Thats really funny coming from an Yank. I'm a Brit living in US now. There's a lot of things in the US thats better than the UK but food is definately not one of them. Compared to the UK there's absolutely no real variation of choice here when eating out for a reasonable price.
      Its all the same chains everywhere you go. Endless amounts Chillis, Wendys, Applebees, etc in every direction and they all serve the same bland crap as each other. Macdonalds and burger king and wendys etc etc are all American in origin and are the ultimate in bland. Most Americans espeically in the mid west think anything even slightly spicy is way too hot. They put so much sugar and/or corn syrup in EVERYTHING in the US you can't hardly taste the actual food.

    3. Re:Food advice. by MythMoth · · Score: 1

      Riiight.

      I don't think I'd call fish and chips especially authentic. Sure, we do eat 'em, but curry is more "authentically" British these days. If you want very high quality eating then The Fat Duck is a three Michelin starred restaurant a short trip outside London. It serves some of the best food in the world and has a certain amount of geek cred to go with it.

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    4. Re:Food advice. by Delusion_ · · Score: 1

      I neither said that chain restaurants were good, nor that UK food specifically or generally was worse than US food.

      The original writer is going to be in the country a short time, and in that interest, I was pointing out a few suggestions to make the most of it. Neither he nor I need you to lecture us on the sad state of affairs of most US restaurants and food habits; we live it, we're aware of it. I'm giving him advice as a fellow American who has spent a lot of time in London.

      London is a great city for food; the experience there is characterized by an abundance of choice, not by a lack of it. World and fusion cuisine in London is some of the best in Europe, and that being the case, why not make the most of it?

      Neither of us needs a Briton lecturing us that Applebees is not, in fact, the end-all be-all of cuisine, there's no argument there: I agree with you and the original writer probably does, too.

    5. Re:Food advice. by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      >> I neither said ... that UK food specifically or generally was worse than US food.

      Sorry but you did:

      >> Skip traditional "English" food, it's bland and tedious

    6. Re:Food advice. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Provided quote does not say UK food is worse than US food.

    7. Re:Food advice. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that irony from a nation whose cheese tastes worse than the plastic it comes wrapped in?

    8. Re:Food advice. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, the US is a big place. I'm sure what you say is accurate - where you are - but here in the Bay Area you see independent Thai, Korean, Indian, Italian, etc. restaurants far more often than any of the franchises you mention.

      Although I agree that the curry is toned down from what we have in South Africa (where the Indian restaurants serve our long established Indian community, not just tourists). And there's no Nandos.

    9. Re:Food advice. by digitalhermit · · Score: 1

      If you go to Chilis, Wendy's, Applebees or any other chain you will, almost by definition, get bland food. Part of their strategy is to make the food as inoffensive to as many people as possible so of course it will be bland. I for one detest Chilis. Anyhoo, there are a ton of great places to eat in the US. I've had some great food in Long Beach, New York, D.C., Atlanta, Miami, Connecticut... Maui and Honolulu too :D.. The trick is to *never* go to a chain.

      As for spicy, I'm a Jamaican living in Ft. Lauderdale, and have to agree that what counts as spicy over here is what I mix in with my daughter's bottle to calm her stomach.. That said, the hottest peppers I've had were from an Indian co-workers private stash... Left my mouth numb for hours...

    10. Re:Food advice. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1
      Most Americans espeically in the mid west think anything even slightly spicy is way too hot. They put so much sugar and/or corn syrup in EVERYTHING in the US you can't hardly taste the actual food.

      Wow, they're just like the Shanghainese! Unless you were just being a prick towards Americans. You mean you didn't know that many cuisines throughout the world are sweet and the local inhabitants don't grow spicy peppers because the terrain or soil isn't suitable? Or maybe, just maybe, the residents don't like spicy food? Who made this a rule? How, exactly, is spicy food "better"? Is it because that's what you're used to and get angry with anyone who disagrees?

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    11. Re:Food advice. by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      Did you even bother reading the thread at all before accusing the wrong people of being pricks?

      Go find the original reply and you'll see its actually an American claiming that all English food is bland. Which is a fucking laughable generalisation give the US's own record of crap bland food far exceeds anything native to pretty much anywhere else in the world.

    12. Re:Food advice. by CecilSomething · · Score: 1

      I lived in England for two years. Skip traditional "English" food, it's bland and tedious unless you have strong feelings about boiled meat. The one exception is probably pub fish and chips; it's an authentic part of the experience and you don't want to miss that.

      Absolute rubbish. The fact that you consider fish and chips to be traditional pub fare speaks volumes - fish and chips should always come from a chippy, preferably at the seaside. I can honestly counter that the worst food I've ever eaten has been in the US. This includes the saltiest lasagne I've ever had (Chicago) and a thai green curry (Atlanta) obviously made by someone who had never eaten one.

  233. No problem with power and WiFi by itsdapead · · Score: 1

    I've used UK laptops in the US and had US visitios using US laptops in the UK. Wifi has always Just Worked and power has always just been a matter of finding the right socket adaptor.

    I've yet to see a laptop that didn't come with a dual-voltage charger. Just check the label to ensure it is rated 100-240V or similar, which will work fine. All you need is a generic US to UK plug adaptor (not a voltage converter or anything).

    The same might not apply to your other appliances, though: cheaper items might come with 110V-only wall-warts and our 240 Great British Volts.

    Hint: buy the adaptor in the US (its something to do at the airport) because many of the smaller shops here in the UK will only have adaptors for UKians visiting the US. If you're stuck in the UK without one, you can probably just get a replacement power cord (UK plug one end, standard figure-of-8 2-pin plug on the other).

    Hint 2: Next time, come in May or early June. Unless you like grey clouds, drizzle, and sunset at 4pm.

    Hint 3: Riding the underground will completely destroy your sense of scale and direction. The Underground map uses a sort-of not-quite-logarithmic scale: the outer stations are quite a long way apart, but in the centre of the city they're only a few blocks apart and it can be quicker (and more interesting) to walk.

    (I usually make the opposite mistake when I'm in the US and take on what looks like a 15-minute walk... an hour later I find myself half way there and staring at 8 lanes of traffic...)

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  234. Re:HSDPA modem, was dont overthink by mister_dave · · Score: 1

    I disagree with that. I live in a rural part of Hampshire, I used to use O2, but I switched to Three for better speeds.

    The Register had an article in July with the coverage maps for different mobile companies; Three and Orange came out best.

    For a tourist, I'd suggest that Three's pay-and-go dongle would be the best option.

  235. London/England tips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Having just returned from 10 days in England, and repeating some of the above:

    - If you have an unlocked GSM phone, get a pay-as-you-go SIM
    - Don't bother renting a car. The tube, taxis, and walking are all good.
    - Bring comfortable walking shoes and a camera
    - Get an "Oyster" card for the tube. Your daily usage is capped rather than buying individual tickets
    - WiFi is expensive at hotels. Get a pre-paid data plan for your phone, if possible, or get a Starbucks card and use their WiFi
    - Look a the ground when you are crossing streets. You'll be reminded to LOOK RIGHT and LOOK LEFT (it would also be a good idea to actually do so... :))
    - Cars expect pedestrians to pay attention to them. Jay-walking is a really good way to get splatted
    - Get out of town! Take some of the day or overnight trips. The double-decker bus staff will be glad to give you pamphlets
    - Eat at Pret or EAT. Good sandwiches and other food at good prices
    - Take more than 2 weeks of vacation :) We took 10 days and it really wasn't enough time
    - If Flickr will survive a slashdotting, check out http://www.flickr.com/photos/tenesmusphyre/sets/72157622454398597/ for some of the highlights of the trip
    - Our Visa international rate is pretty good, so we used it for most purchases, but you should still keep some cash on hand
    - Tipping is totally different in the UK. Essentially, most places don't expect you to tip or will include the tip on the bill. Don't double-tip

  236. Some Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been to London quite a bit and I would bring your laptop so that you can share your experience with everyone while you're there. It's extra cool to do it while you're there instead of after you've already come back, if you ask me. Your laptop may already support the voltage; just check the specs on it, but you'll probably just need a plug adapter. My MacBook Pro, for example, works just fine with a simple plug adapter. I've also had no problems using the WiFi there.

    I would suggest the following.

    London Eye -- You get some amazing views of London making it worth the money to ride.
    Benjamin Franklin's House -- There really isn't anything too special, except to say that you've seen it, especially if you think he was an interesting guy.
    National Portrait Gallery -- This is right off of Trafalgar Square and is worth a visit. They usually have some sort of really cool special exhibit, in addition to the regular galleries.
    Tate Modern -- This is in an old electrical power station and worth a visit just to experience whatever is in the turbine hall.
    Royal Academy of Art -- I believe they still have the Anish Kapoor exhibit going. He did the big metal bean in Millennium Park in Chicago.
    Borough Market - I picked up a good sausage sandwich here once. It's in the south bank of the Thames.

    My only travel advice is to blend in with the crowd; don't stand out like a tourist. If you have a camera, keep it in a bag. Learn how to pronounce words like Leicester, the Thames, Marylebone, and Southwark because it's always polite to properly pronounce the name of the place you're trying to find. Lastly, don't wear anything that'll make you stand out as an American, and don't, for the love of lolcats, wear a fanny pack. And don't call them fanny packs either over there because "fanny" means something else to them. :-)

  237. The Tower of London by Khelder · · Score: 1

    I don't know if it's geeky, exactly, but I suspect fondness for castles is correlated with geekiness. In any case, I strongly recommend the Tower of London. It might have been just the tour guide we happened to get, but the best tour I ever had of anything anywhere was at the Tower of London.

    The Crown Jewels are there, too, and you can look get a surprisingly close look at them. They weren't the highlight, though, at least for me. (Mainly, they were surreal to me; they were so big, I just couldn't believe enough that they were real to be impressed by them.)

  238. You probably know this already but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Travelling from Washington to London in December, the most interesting thing you can do at Heathrow is to catch a flight to New York, Paris or Vancouver.

    As with any major city in the world there's plenty of good and bad about London but the fun and excitement of travelling is figuring it out for yourself.
    Others have listed good suggestions and I would add follow the crowds...they're usually doing something interesting but beware of pickpockets.

    Here are some random suggestions for a first trip from an American stuck in London:

    - Grab an Amex charge (not credit) card if you don't have one already; after a few trips you'll figure out it's not necessary but it's a comforting bit of insurance on your first few trips overseas. Amex has expensive merchant charges so most UK retailers prefer/insist on Visa/MC but if you get into a jam Amex will be helpful in getting you out. Treat it as cheap insurance.

    - Have some travel money in your bank account with an ATM card on a major network (Visa/MC). ATM's are probably the cheapest way to exchange money but only grab what you need or you'll have leftover currency. It's possible to get by in London only needing cash for light/fast/street food and I wouldn't bother trying to get Sterling in Seattle. Just use an ATM at Heathrow. You'll probably get by on a lot less than £5/day if you use your card for everything else. Let your bank know you'll be in London so fraud detection software doesn't leave you in a lurch.

    - If your cell (aka mobile) phone is GSM based (AT&T/T-Mobile) it will work fine in London but you probably have to let your carrier know you want international roaming. I'd let friends/colleagues know not to call you while here unless it's necessary. Those roaming charges add up quickly. If it's not GSM, borrow a GSM phone and buy a Pay as You Go SIM card in London. Have folks call you at the hotel and use the mobile for local calls. Also, if you have a data plan...roaming will add up on that as well.

    - If you're staying in the UK (that's where London is) for 2 weeks....bring food. Seriously, bring something you might miss. It's possible to eat really well in London if you are prepared to pay but there's a reason that folks make fun of English food. The safest thing to go for is ethnic foods; Indian is really good here but so is Greek, Spanish, French etc.. For some reason, Italian and Chinese don't work well here (IMHO it's the water). After about a week, not having American food will get on your nerves. Pizza Hut is the same, pizza is not. Anyone know where to get American Cheese in London? Saltines?

    - Be yourself. Don't worry about the Ugly American stereotype (most of the world has caught up and jerks come from every corner of the Globe). Just remember that most people around you aren't on holiday so don't get in the way and as a guest so don't do anything obviously offensive (littering is the most common thing I've seen). And for gosh sakes, don't walk around with earphones stuck in your ears. It's just bad form in any city and any country.

    - The only reason to travel by Taxi in London are that you're tired, don't know where you're going or have luggage to deal with. Get one of these at your first Tube station: http://www.oystercard.com/ and get a tube map. Also, Taxi drivers insist on talking the whole journey. I don't know why.

    - Catch the Heathrow Express into town (Paddington Station). It's worth a few extra bucks over the Tube/Heathrow Connect and a damned sight faster/cheaper than a Taxi. Walking shoes are a must and so is an umbrella...though I think you get better quality umbrellas here (Fulton) than you might get in the States (Totes). It's generally humid here so it might feel a bit warmer than Seattle. And if you take the tube...wash your hands...a lot. Bring Purell (but check it in your luggage).

    - If you're bringing a laptop, then bring electronics you can charge off of a USB port. It's just less headache and you'll only need to have one plug converter.

    1. Re:You probably know this already but.... by ckri · · Score: 1

      Panto is a good idea

      http://www.bigpantoguide.co.uk/london.php

    2. Re:You probably know this already but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no it isn't.

    3. Re:You probably know this already but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh YES it is.

  239. Simple by 16Chapel · · Score: 1

    Do:

    - Bring your laptop, you won't need to change WiFi region or bring a transformer.
    - Eat at Pizza Express, Nandos or Strada (good chains), or any pub where the menu changes every day (sign of a Gastropub where with any luck you'll get a good, if slightly pricey, meal).
    - Buy a copy of Timeout and look for some fun music - lots to choose from, or just go to a music pub like the Dublin Castle (http://www.thedublincastle.com/) where they have 4 or 5 unsigned bands on every night.
    - Bring a cell phone with you (must be Triband), as you can get pay-as-you-go sim cards for next to nothing, and it's much easier to deal with life in London with a phone.
    - On that note, if you want to get a cab anywhere I'd recommend Addison Lee (http://www.addisonlee.com/) - best cab service by a LONG way, still cheaper than a black cab, and they text you when your taxi arrives.

    Don't:

    - Eat at any other chain restaurants (especially any 'Steak Houses', Angus or otherwise), or eat any street food.
    - Stand on the left on escalators!

  240. Laptop Input Voltage by Ponteaus · · Score: 1

    Most laptops will accept a large range of input voltages, including both the US 110V standard and British 220V standard. Check the back of your laptop or your power brick to see what voltage range your's can handle. Likely, you'll only need a US-to-British plug adapter, not a full-fledged converter. When my wife and I traveled to France, the only items that couldn't handle the voltage were the electric toothbrushes. Thinkpad, Gateway, Ipod, and digital camera were all ready to go.

  241. Some of My Experiences by rainmaestro · · Score: 1

    I spent two weeks in London a few years ago. Bringing a machine depends on where you are staying. I was staying in a residence for study-abroad students owned by a local uni (I wasn't a student, but knew someone at the uni who secured a room for me), and they had a few computers in the den for use. Much easier than bringing my own.

    A few things every geek should do in London:
    --British Library. I could have spent all two weeks here and never gone outside. The collections are incredible.
    --Hit a pub and catch a soccer match with the locals. These guys make football fans in sports bars look like pansies. You'll have a great time.
    --Depending on your history/cultural interests, you could hit places like Leeds (I suggest avoiding it) or the White Cliffs (not worth the ride). Lots of castles, Tower of London, etc. The only one I really enjoyed was Raynham Hall. That was really only because (a) it was my family's estate back in the pre-revolutionary era, and (b) it is the site of a famous haunting.
    --Take a day trip to Ireland.
    --Just take a walking tour of the city. No directions, no destination. Just walk. You'll be amazed at how many interesting things you find that you'd never normally notice.
    --The squares are great for people watching.
    --Plenty of awesome museums (think along the lines of the Smithsonian in D.C.)
    --Madame Tussads is a good place to kill an hour or two.
    --Head across the channel and spend a day in France.
    --Be careful what you eat. I managed to get food poisoning on the third day, and spend the remainder of my trip living on soups and salads (all I could keep down). That being said, some of the food over there is fantastic (and I continue to search for a decent replica in the States).

  242. Places to go by KiwiCanuck · · Score: 1

    It's great to be a geek and all, but takes this opportunity to expand your horizons. There are tonnes of theatrical performances, art displays, and very old buildings. Take in the view of London from the Tate Modern Cafe, check out Camden Market, hang out in Trafalgar square. Half of the content of the Valley of Kings is in the British Museum (if you like museums, then there is no place that comes close to the Louvre in Paris). Grab a copy of The Lonely Planet, and flip through it. Try and do as much as possible. Do stuff that you think you might not like, you might surprise yourself.

  243. Netbook Camera and Cardiff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take a netbook or at least something smaller than a standard size notebook your arms and back with thank you if your going to be doing alot of sightseeing. A digital camera is a given.

    I actually had more fun visiting Cardiff than London, if you get chance to get to Wales, its a nice visit. There are half a dozen castles, old forts, burial chambers, the National Museum, Cardiff bay, central market, and of course the Millennium center. If your a BBC fan its also the area where the many BBC shows are filmed. Merlin, Gavin and Stacey, Torchwood and of course Dr Who are all filmed there.

  244. leave the laptop by Goldsmith · · Score: 1

    Leave the laptop, bring a smartphone (such as an iPhone), and make sure you're able to use that.

    You don't really want to be on your laptop all the time, and a phone will be much better for getting around (GPS, maps) and fine for getting online for planning/reservations and those 1-2 emergency e-mails you have to respond to.

    Also, Westminster Abbey. If you're ok with visiting graves, this is a great place to go. Some of the graves there: Isaac Newton, Charles Darwin, Paul Dirac, Ernest Rutherford, James Watt... those are who I can remember now, it's pretty cool.

  245. Ditch the Lonely Planet guide... by londongrouch · · Score: 1

    Like all major cities, London changes too quickly for guide books to keep up. Here are a few things (some mentioned previously) that are more fun that doing the conventional tourist trail around London...

    Leave the laptop in the safe at the hotel. Take your camera instead, spare batteries, and a spare memory card. Look up - lots of interesting details above eye level.

    Food:
    Borough Market (London Bridge on Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun, fantastic, fun food market with lots to see)
    Whole Foods Market (High St Kensington or Clapham Junction if you're homesick)
    Eat a pre-theatre dinner, or have lunch, at a really good restaurant. You'll get 2 or 3 courses for under 25 GBP, for the same food that costs three times as much in the evening.

    Pubs:
    The George (Borough or London Bridge)
    Lamb & Flag (Covent Garden or Leicester Square)
    Any Sam Smith's pubs in central London (The Champion - stunning original pub interior - on Wells St just off Oxford St, Red Lion on Kingly St, The Angel by Denmark St, The John Snow, )

    Drinks:
    Drink a pint of bitter, just once at least!
    Two good London breweries are Fuller's and Young's.
    Fuller's London Pride is a decent bitter.

    Things to do:
    Spitalfields Market and Brick Lane (beautiful architecture, Georgian townhouses, Hawksmoor church, hip street market on Sunday and lots of hip, cutting edge/retro clothing/culture)
    Walk around the hip Rivington Street area / Shoreditch (this area was discovered by 90s geeks - it was the original centre of the UK's New Media industry)
    Walk around Mayfair (pretty, expensive, villagey residential area above Oxford St)
    Walk around Covent Garden (see the Georgian Market, fun shopping area)
    Broadway Market (old, now very hip East End weekend market Sat/Sun)
    Walk along the South Bank between Waterloo and London Bridge at night
    Go to a West End show, either theatre or musical, or The Globe for Shakespeare
    Go to a gig: London has a fantastic and diverse music scene
    See an art show
    Highgate Cemetary (incredibly atmospheric and ancient, great for photos, try to get onto the old cemetary tour)
    Sample sales. London's a key fashion city. If you like shopping for clothes, shoes, accessories etc, go to a sample sale. Usually 3-4 weekly somewhere central. Fun, hectic and great discounts.

    Other museums:
    National Gallery (free, incredible collection)
    Courtauld Institute
    Royal Academy (usually has good shows)
    Tate Britain (lovely building, good collection, great cafe and restaurant too)

    Destinations around 1hr from London:
    Oxford (Bodleian Library)
    Brighton (Pretty, classic British seaside town)
    Canterbury (stunning World Heritage city, 10th century cathedral and original 16th century quarter)

  246. Geek travel by 200_success · · Score: 1

    For all geek travel questions, consult The Geek Atlas for suggestions for places to visit. Bonus: while in London, get your copy autographed.

  247. The Rundown by gaiageek · · Score: 1

    Chances are you will be tired and sitting in your hotel room for several hours a day, either from jet-lag (when it's 3am there your body will think it's 7pm and you'll likely be wide awake) or from being exhausted at the end of the day. Personally, I can only deal with watching TV for so long, which is one reason I always travel with my laptop.

    You almost definitely won't need to change any regional settings for your laptop. The only differences between Wi-Fi here and there are that they might have channels 12 and 13, but they're rarely used - especially in any place serving tourists.

    The better question is whether you want to pay the high prices of hotel Wi-Fi. Britain and the rest of the world in general have much better options for settings up prepaid phone and data service. If you have a GSM mobile device that supports 3G, which is likely if you're an AT&T or T-Mobile customer, you can check the device specs and see if it supports the 2100MHz 3G band used in Europe. If it does and your device is unlocked, you can buy a prepaid SIM card with a prepaid data package and tether your phone to your laptop to get online. Or, buy a USB 3G stick when there and it still might cost less than a week's worth of hotel Wi-Fi (and then you get a USB 3G stick out of it). See here for more info about using your mobile device overseas, and here to find a prepaid voice/data provider in the UK.

    As for power, your laptop, mobile and most other devices should only need a simple US to UK plug adapter, as they can automatically sense and function on the higher voltage. Check each device to see if it reads (100V-240V) in the specs, often right below the plugs on wall-wart chargers, and if it does you're fine. If it says (100V-120V), only then would you need a voltage converter, and often times the weight and cost of one are not worth it. A power strip may be overkill for size/weight and if it has surge protection it won't work on 230V, so a simple plug splitter is a better option if you need it.

    If you plan on using the Tube to get around, which I definitely recommend if you want to keep costs down, get an Oyster card as soon as you arrive. The rates for getting around are much cheaper if you use an Oyster card.

    On the getting around note, always, always, always have a map when you go out. The layout of London's streets are like nothing you've ever experienced in the US because they precede the idea of city planning, so if you head off in one direction thinking "I think it's this way" you will almost surely get yourself lost. Now, sometimes getting lost in a city is a great experience, but if you want that experience, do it during the day. If you don't want to look like a like tourist pulling their map out and making yourself a target, put a map of where you'll be exploring on your mobile phone so that when you stop on the street, it just looks like you're reading an SMS message. Same goes for a map of the Tube if you'll be using it.

    Finally, if appeals to you, make sure you enjoy the experience of walking down the street while drinking a beer. Public drinking is allowed in the UK, and it's a simple freedom that I miss when in the US. Just remember that when people say "cheers" they're probably saying "thanks" - not asking you to lift your glass.

  248. Geek, really? by Kirrilian · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised this person doesn't already have any friends over there. I have quite a few friends all over Europe that I would enjoy meeting in person, or seeing again. They would be able to help me overcome my ignorant American ways and show me where the best stuff is. Also, I might even be able to stay with them, giving more money to get around or party more, whichever you like.

  249. Travelin' Light by chicago_scott · · Score: 1

    Unless you really need a laptop for something like development or you have a really small laptop (at most 3 lbs) then I would recommend not taking one. The first time I travelled overseas I took my laptop (a 5 pounder) and the thing was like an anchor around my neck. I rarely used it and the inconvenience of hauling it around much outweighed any usefulness of having it.

    On subsequent trips I took a digital camera, an email-capable, GSM cellphone with an international data plan and an mp3 player. Much better.

    You can also get a pay as you go SIM card from a local European carrier for a reasonable price. Maybe someone else here can give you more details on that. Be sure to get the unlock code from your cellphone provider before you go though.

    Travelin' light, it's the only way to fly.

  250. No internet kiosks in London by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As you ask: No, there exist no Internet kiosks in London, as a matter of fact they don't even know electricity yet.....

  251. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by Fembot · · Score: 1

    TFL = Transport for London, not Tube. It covers buses, Docklands Light Railway (DLR) and some overground services amongst other things.

  252. What he said by MyShinyMetalAss · · Score: 0
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  253. I'd leave it by mea37 · · Score: 1

    I'd leave the laptop at home; but you're not me, so YMMV.

    It's not about the hassle of setting it up. Sure, you need to be aware of the different voltage and all that; but now that you know that, it's easy to deal with.

    But, first of all, for a two week trip, I can carry enough media for my camera that I don't have to off-load images (but then, some people take more pictures than I do; I don't believe that just because I'm not spending film means I should make it harder to sift through my pictures later).

    There's really just no need IMO to lug a computer along, taking up a good chunk of your carry-on alotment for the flight. In fact, when I'm on a short trip to Europe, the last thing I want to do is waste time at a computer while I'm there. I do sign on once or twice to check email and send a message home if there's anything that noteworty - like the time my hotel room was robbed - but there are Internet cafes everywhere and they're not that expensive when you don't need much time.

    The other reason I don't travel with a laptop is related to that hotel robbery I mentioned. Not saying that crime is any higher there than here, but as a tourist you're out of your element and it shows. Plus, if your laptop does get stolen in Europe, it could be somewhat more hassle than if it's stolen here.

    But mostly, I just think a 6,000-mile trip is an opportunity to do and see things you wouldn't be doing at home; I'd think I was wasting time and money to take along my laptop.

  254. Take a Smartphone by LuminaireX · · Score: 1

    Depends on the size of the laptop and where you'll be keeping it. If you're staying in a hotel for a week, you should be OK, but if you're backpacking through hostels, forget it - I hauled a 17" laptop in a backpack through New Zealand a couple of years ago. It was useful for writing blog entries and whatnot, but pointless when you can't find any (free) Wifi. To be honest, my T-Mobile Dash was more useful. I'd type up emails and entries on the phone then save them to the SD card. I'd then take the card to an Internet kiosk and pay for as little Internet as possible, just enough to copy/paste from the card into whatever I was sending to the cloud.

    I'm going to make another trip to NZ in the near future, and will probably forgo the laptop this time in favor of my T-Mobile G1.

  255. Dorkbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If there's one happenning when you're here, don't miss the London Dorkbot especially the Xmas one around mid Dec. Dates are often announced at fairly short notice so worth joining the announce mailing list.

    re. plugs etc., most hotels will have a 2 pin socket in the bathroom, but you can easily get adaptors here if necessary.

     

  256. Geeks in London by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 1

    If you're at all of the freak persuasion, then by all means, take the tube to Camden Town (Northern Line) and visit The Devonshire Arms on Kentish Town Road. Also, the Slimelight is absolutely a must-go. If you're not a goth/punk/freak, skip this paragraph worth of advice.

    Here's some important things to remember:

    The pubs close at 11:00pm and the tube closes not long after. If you're planning on staying out later (nightclub as opposed to pub) make sure you are either close enough that a cab won't cost you a fortune, or that you've got a clue which night bus to take. Being stranded at 4:30am at the tube station waiting for them to start running was a unique experience, but one that I could do without repeating. Especially the part where some dude tried to steal this passed out drunk guy's shoes... amusing and slightly terrifying all at the same time)

    If you have a GSM phone, it will work over there, but roaming could be REALLY expensive. If your phone is unlocked, consider getting a prepaid sim card from Orange or somesuch and use that for a local number while you're there.

    People have ragged on British food forever, but if you like curry, you'll be very happy.

    Cornish Pasties (pronounced "Past-ees", not "paste-ees") are the best street food EVAR. (especially at the little cart at London Bridge Station)

    Roast Beef and Yorkshire Pudding for Sunday dinner is highly recommended.

    Go to Meetup.com and find a group that shares your interest that's having a meeting early on in the time you're there - did me a world of good my first visit... Found an awesome '80s / goth / synthpop scene and made some good friends myself.

    I didn't bother bringing a computer - I figured I wanted to spend time actually doing/experiencing the place rather than just diong the same thing I always do at home. Though I suppose it might make your research go more quickly.

    Most important thing::

    DO make sure you keep an emergency credit card and a copy of your passport somewhere safe and separate from your wallet/passport. That will help a LOT if you lose 'em in terms of getting replacements and so it doesn't ruin your trip. I lost my wallet while I was there - reported it to the police, but luckily I had a spare credit card for just such an emergency - and my passport was safely somewhere else at the time so I wasn't royally screwed. Either way, don't take anything you can't live without if its lost/stolen... property crime is kind of high in London.

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  257. A Laptop On Vacation is Useless.... by Cnik70 · · Score: 1

    Leave the laptop at home.... internet cafe's are everywhere, and who the hell wants to spend time in front of a PC when there are so many cool things to see in a city like London? As for image off-loading.... just have your USB cable with you and upload your images directly online or just have them burnt to CD/DVD at any internet cafe. http://thecnik.com/London/

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  258. Laptop is easy but heavy by imcdowall · · Score: 1

    It is relatively easy to travel with a laptop but you may get tired of carrying the weight around.

    You won't need a new power cord - just buy a standard power adapter - cheap and small and can be used to charge other kit.

    The benefits of having your own laptop are that you can easily store photos and if you connect to WiFi (I am not aware of regional variations) you can do email etc. You can get WiFi either from coffee shops or from your hotel but it will not be free.

    However, when I travel with a laptop, I do get sick of lugging it around. It is relatively heavy and bulky but is too valuable (read worth stealing) to leave lying around. If you can leave it in your hotel room then it should be safe. If you are using hostels etc. then that may not be the case.

    If you can live without guaranteed Internet access and have ways of saving photos then leave it at home.

    While you are in London, I strongly suggest visiting the Natural History Museum. IMO this is one of the best museums in England.

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  259. Read the Geek Atlas for some ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Geek Atlas is a good source of interesting places to visit. You could read through the entries for England to get some good ideas.

    http://books.slashdot.org/story/09/07/20/1325215/The-Geek-Atlas
    http://www.geekatlas.com/

  260. Don't worry by radish · · Score: 1

    Your wifi will work fine, you won't need to change anything. The charger for your laptop is almost certainly multi-voltage (check the label) so all you need is a $2 plug adapter, buy it at the airport.

    People travel between the US and UK every day, it's not a big deal :) Stop worrying, make sure your credit card has plenty of room, and have fun!

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  261. A cool geeky thing by Deadstick · · Score: 1

    ...is the display of the Harrison Clocks at the Greenwich Observatory. To get their importance, read Dava Sobel's "Longitude" on the plane.

    For an additional geek treat, set your GPS on the Meridian Line and figure out why it reads about 5 seconds west.

    The Ceremony of the Keys at the Tower of London is neat, but it's too late for that: you have to write ahead for tickets.

    At the British Museum, go to the Rosetta Stone and find some of the encircled symbols that gave Champollion the critical clue to decoding the hieroglyphics.

    Look right and mind the gap.

    rj

  262. Will you bring it back? by Dr+La · · Score: 1

    The laptop, I mean? If so, have fun with customs when you come back to the US.

    Best ways to avoid trouble coming back is:

    a) encrypting all your files;
    b) name a few "jihad.doc" or "kiddieP.jpg" or "U238centrifuge.pdf";
    c) make a picture of Ahmedinajabad your desktop image

    This will ensure a speedy travel home from the airport.

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  263. Laptop by Jiro · · Score: 1

    I haven't yet seen a comment pointing this out, but laptops can be searched at the border without suspicion. They can just copy everything off your laptop and keep it. Homeland Security made some new rules in August when enough bigwigs complained about it, but it's still possible. The UK border officials can also do it. They only search relatively few of them, but there's a small chance the government will just take all your private information off your laptop.

    And I don't know if anyone's ever been prosecuted for illegal music or video downloads on a border laptop, but personally I wouldn't risk it if I had any.

  264. Nearly right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nearly right. The driving on the right was because Napoleon was a cavalryman. And if you dismount a horse and are right-handed (as most people are, hence the drive on the left so you pass right-hand to right-hand with the oncoming possible miscreant) you are left standing on the edge of the road in the gutter where dog doodoo will get on your nice shiny cavalry boots.

    So Napoleon said they should drive on the left so that he'd get off on the firm road where dogshit is less common.

    1. Re:Nearly right by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      So you dismount into the middle of the road and get crushed by a passing tumbril. I'd rather have the dirty boots.

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  265. Been there, done that by klossner · · Score: 1

    I took my laptop from Oregon to London last summer so I could send email to my family and log my geocaches.

    No problem with wi-fi. It worked for me exactly as it does in the states. Channel selection is made by the access point, not by the laptop, so it's not your worry.

    Your laptop charger has a label telling what input voltages it will accept. All of my chargers (and my electric razor) take 100-240 VAC and 50 or 60 Hz. That means they don't need a transformer to work with England's 240/50 power, just a cheap mechanical adapter which I picked up for a few bucks.

  266. Cabinet War Rooms by zigzag219 · · Score: 1

    If you are interested in WWII history, then check out the Cabinet War Rooms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_War_Rooms). I found them to be a very interesting glimpse into war time administration and organization. I loved all the wall covering maps tracking the different fronts. There are even documents left out on desks that you can inspect.

  267. You'll need frozen peas by TheGreatOrangePeel · · Score: 1

    I recommend you FedEx half a dozen packs of frozen peas to your hotel before you leave. There's two reasons for this.

    1. When you're asked if you want mushy or regular peas you can say, "None, thanks. I brought my own." at which point you pull the bag of peas out of your pocket and enjoy some rather cold, but edible peas.

    2. When you make some off hand remark about the Redskins best football team ever to your traveling companion, you can say to the passing soccer goon who hadn't realized you were an American, "No thanks, I brought my own." at which point you pull the bag of peas out of your pocket and enjoy a rather cold press against your blackened eye.

  268. Eurostar by Tanks*Guns · · Score: 1

    In addition to the many helpful comments posted here about places in London (or there'bouts), don't forget you can travel to France quite easily by train.
    For about £130 round-trip you can get from London to Paris on the Eurostar http://www.eurostar.com/ , it's about a 2 1/2 to 3hr train ride depending on what station you board.
    So, my suggestion would be take a train at 6 AM and you'll be in Paris by 9 AM, enjoy this wonderful city (lots of walking) and ride back in the evening.
    You have Notre Damme, Eifel Tower, Champs-Elysées and the Arche du Triomphe all within a reasoneable walk along the Sienne river.
    And yes, if you are so inclined, you may bring your laptop also, although with all the walking I would not recommend it.
    Enjoy your "use it or lose it" vacation

  269. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by Audrey23 · · Score: 1

    Haven't nailed it down yet, but was thinking about Base2Stay, though its a bit on the spendy side it does look nice. Any good ideas on safe/secure ? Any ideas on places to avoid? Thanks for the great input so far!

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  270. Imperial War Museum by Tomji · · Score: 1

    What's more geeky then Enigma machine, V2 rocket and Tanks?
    It's easily reachable in the center at Elephant and Castle Tube station.
    Entrance Free with vol. donations as usual for London.

  271. Bletchley Park by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should visit one of the most significant places of geek pilgrimage, Bletchley Park. Not only was it the place where the father of computer science, Alan Turing, worked on shortening WWII, there's an amazing exhibition on cryptography and cryptoanalysis, plus it houses a computer history museum on the same premises.

  272. Booze good...in moderation by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    As someone who's traveled quite a bit in the past few years (I did over 150k miles in the past 12 months), I would recommend against the booze.

    As long as you don't over do it a little alcohol is very good. My usual routine from Canada to Europe is to have a glass or two of wine. This is enough to relax you and help you get to sleep but not enough to dehydrate you and cause a hangover (which is very easy to do given the 0% humidity environment onboard). As an added bonus alcohol metabolizes into chemicals that act as stimulants so when you wake up close to landing it helps wake you up enough to get through the airport and either to your hotel or onto the next flight. You do need to make sure to drink lots of water though - it is very easy to get a hangover if you are not careful due to the dehydrating environment.

  273. Take a USB stick, and Upload your photos somewhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You almost certainly don't want to carry a laptop with you, and leaving it in your hotel room can be risky. When I went last year, I just made sure to set up a password protected FTP server with write access, but not delete (FileZilla Server). I also had a USB stick with a few utilities including IRFanView and FileZilla Client. Every couple of days I'd copy the pictures to the USB stick, batch resize them to about half size using IRFanView, then upload the resized version to the FTP server using the FileZilla Client. That way, the flash cards and USB stick could get damaged/stolen, but I'd still have a decent copy stored safely at home.

    This ended up being a life saver because my wife was fiddling with her camera and discovered what the "format" command did... We were able to recover most of photos off of that flash card after the trip, but we still had a few that were saved by the upload. My camera also inexplicably munched a bunch of photos for some reason. Again, the FTP site was a life saver.

    We didn't have a laptop with us as we were backpacking, but internet cafes were readily available. Had anyone snooped the passwords for the FTP, all they could have done was use it, not delete the uploaded photos. We both had iPhones that we set to not allow data roaming. So we were able to check email and perform status/positional update when near free wifi (usually wherever we were staying).

  274. bring it and use the web by ptudor · · Score: 1
    You'll probably want a laptop. Avoid theft from hostel/hotel by keeping it on your person in a nice bag like from CourierWare. How else will you browse WikiTravel and HostelWorld? (I've had a laptop stolen from a hotel... and still use laptops in public at dorm-style hostels.)

    Are you really gonna spend Two Whole Weeks in London? Use Ryanair or EasyJet out of Luton or Stansted to go spend a few days in Geneva or Amsterdam or Vienna or Milan or...

    And I have my own checklist of the things I tend to bring on trips (I've filled my passport entirely)... Travel Tudor

  275. OpenStreetMap by Lemming+Mark · · Score: 1

    Consider trying OpenStreetMap for some of your navigation. http://www.openstreetmap.org/ It's a Wikipedia-like effort to create an Open Source-ish map of the world. The project was started in the UK and although coverage is still patchy in some areas it does already have excellent coverage of large parts of London. It includes some data that Google Maps does not have. Due to the Free as in Freedom nature of the project, the website also makes it easy to export PDFs, pngs, etc of areas of the map which you can then store for reference offline (though obviously you can't then search them).

    There's a navigation service at http://yournavigation.org/ which has some neat features, like the ability to plot a route for pedestrians or cyclists that will take you down cycleways and footpaths where possible (there was also an elevation profile of your route, so you'll know how hilly it is! That was a GSoC project, I think but it seems not to be available for now).

    Disclaimer: I am plugging a project I've contributed to here but it really is pretty good.

    PS. There are internet kiosks but you'll need to ask your butler to bring some coal to power them. ;-)

  276. Ah, England. by xatm092 · · Score: 1

    You're always going to need your laptop. While it's true WiFi spots aren't as plentiful as in the US, they exist and you don't need to worry about some WiFi region rubbish. If you get a good adapter with an in-built transformer (and trust me they exist) then you can use this and your US power cable to get your laptop charged anywhere in England. As for the places I recommend going: Cambridge (it's where I was at University!), Down House (Kent, the house of Charles Darwin), The Science and Natural History Museum (obviously), Bletchley Park, and if you don't mind the cost of the train ticket, Bath.

  277. Don't panic, just bring a towel by Ka+D'Argo · · Score: 1

    Forgo the laptop, the only thing you needed with traveling is a towel.

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  278. Tube Travel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get an OYSTER card, its well worth it. Fill it up with at least 4£ per day and that will let you travel pretty much everywhere all day long. Plus its a cool souvenir when you're done with it.

  279. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I took a month-long trip overseas recently, and as a compromise between the convenience of a laptop and the freedom of carrying no valuables I took my iphone. It was small enough to carry around with me securely, but also gave the option of signing on to any handy wi-fi hotspots. Some of the apps were useful too, like the currency converter. If you do take your laptop, beware getting sucked into the interwebs and missing opportunities to meet new people and sights.

    London is a great town to visit from Washington State, since the weather (rainy) is a lot like home. The Tube works well for getting from point A to B, and all the government museums are free with some of the best artifacts and art you'll ever see. The food is also pretty tasty - definitely try the fish & chips!

  280. Bad advice if taken too far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's bad advice since many sausages are absolutely fine. The big problem is that most places get ***cheap*** sausages. Horrible pink lumnious things. But plenty of sausages are really quite good.

    NOTE: if you're pissed up the next morning, you may want to try going to a "greasy spoon": a "caff" which is like a cafe but a lot less posh. They WILL do these pink sausages in your full fried breakfast but it is part of the experience, rather like having a donner kebab after all the drinking (do NOT bother unless you ARE quite rascally drunk: it doesn't work that way).

    Some places will do gourmet sausages or if you have a stove get some good sausages, bacon, eggs, sliced white pappy bread, beans, button mushrooms and fresh tomatoes and make up a *proper* fried breakfast. You will need a LOT of pans. NOTE: do the beans last in the pan you did the bacon and FRY them. Works a treat.

    Fry the Sausages carefully in one pan with a small amount of fat/oil. Another pan with much more oil/fat in it (so that it is deeper than the bread thickness) should be ready. When the sausages are mostly done, add the bacon and start heating the oil in the other pan. Fry the bread in the oil which should be very hot. It should just be sumberged. Add the mushrooms to a THIRD pan which has butter or margarine in it (butter for preference). You can for this use a small saucepan if you're running out of fry pans.

    The sausages and bacon should now be done as well as the fried bread. Take them out and put the beans in the pan where the sausages used to be and cut the tomatoes in half and put them in too so that the tomatoes are cut side down and directly on the pan. When that's put in, crack the eggs and put them in the deeper oil in the other pan. If you use deeper oil it won't get crunchy bits.

    After a while quickly turn the tomatoes over to cook the other side.

    When the eggs are done, the beans and tomatoes will be too. Turn them out with the sausage/bacon together, beans dropped over and beside them, tomatoes hanging on the edge of the plate and the fried bread the other side of the plate, pushing into the beans. Put the eggs on the fried bread.

    If you have any brown sauce sachets from a caff have it on the sausages.

    Eat.

    The rest of the day will be taken up with washing up...

    (note: you should for 100% authenticity have a cup of tea with milk and at least one sugar. NOTE: tea with milk and sugar is a far better drink to have the morning after boozing than coffee. Orange juice works as well, but in winter you may want the warmth).

    1. Re:Bad advice if taken too far by arethuza · · Score: 1

      "do NOT bother unless you ARE quite rascally drunk: it doesn't work that way" - you have a gift for understatement!

  281. How I do it. by GiMP · · Score: 1

    Power. I pack my laptop and bring a plug adapter for my charger. Most chargers let you replace the cable which runs between the brick and the wall, but unless you plan to frequent the UK often, I suggest just buying a universal adapter. Personally, have a 6-way universal plug adapter which rotates to select the necessary male adapter for countries I visit infrequently, such as the UK, but have a plug replacement for central Europe as I visit Poland and Germany with frequency.

    Wifi. I suggest that you do NOT flash your wifi adapter's firmware or modify your software. The US allows channels 1-11, while Europe allows 1-13. All this means is that there might be some channels you can't reach. If you're any place that targets international customers, it should be assumed that they'll take this into consideration, will configure on a channel between 1-11, and you'll have no problem connecting. To be honest, if I can help it, the only Wifi I use when traveling is that provided by my telephone...

    Internet. Vodaphone sells a "3G" modem with sim and 15GBP top-up included for 34.99GBP. This is enough to last you at least a week, possibly two. In the US, my carrier is T-Mobile, my phone is G1. I had T-mobile unlock my phone, I jailbroke it, and I simply bought a sim with 15GBP top-up from Vodaphone. This provided my telephone, SMS, and internet for both my phone and laptop. If you have T-Mobile or AT&T in the US, you might also be able to do this to save yourself 20GBP.

    Food. Don't forget the vital step of eating. If you want to eat cheap, find sandwiches. Specifically, look for "Eat." and "Pret A Manger". The food at "Eat." is excellent, but mostly of a vegetarian, vegan, and fishy variety. Pret has a good selection of meaty deliciousness, but all selections do lean towards healthy eating. Between the healthy food, walking, and the incredible number of stairs in St Paul's cathedral, prepare to lose some weight! There are also plenty of small kiosks with sandwiches, if you're daring enough. Otherwise, be prepared to spend some serious cash on food.

    Travel. You can get a weekly pass or top-up an Oyster card. Personally, I found that I was seeing a lot more of London when I had the weekly pass. Most will probably say to top-up the Oyster, and it will save you money. That is certainly true if you're using it for small one-off day trips. However, but if you're like me, you will experience more of London in less time, with less guilt with an "unlimited" pass. On the unlimited pass, I could start my morning by browsing the shops of Croydon, browse the Tate in the afternoon, have lunch in Earl's Court, jump over to a pub in the east end, and see a West End show in the evening... all without worrying about how much money I'm spending for travel.

    Finally.. have fun!

  282. Why buy an outlet converter? by Jack9 · · Score: 1

    The hotels I stayed at were happy to hand me a couple converters.

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    Often wrong but never in doubt.
    I am Jack9.
    Everyone knows me.
  283. Don't forget the Canadian Flag lapel pin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or is it just backpackers who do that?

  284. Re:Stonehenge and Bath in December? No way. by iserlohn · · Score: 1

    The façade is on the new Southgate isn't too bad, but yes, it's built with concrete and steel, bleh. At least they blended it in with the rest of the area unlike Cabot Circus in Bristol.

    Bath is actually a great place to visit in this time of year, as the Christmas Market is about to start (on Thursday) and it's going to last till 6th December.

  285. But if you'd timed it right... by SamuraiCatInTraining · · Score: 1

    ...you could have caught David Tennant singing to a plate of chips (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408375//).

  286. vpn & tnmoc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Setup vpn first if you want to use any of the free open wireless access points in pubs, restaurants or shopping centres. There are plenty of internet cafés, so if you just want to do the internet instead of some coding or something else, leave it at home. If you have a smartphone, use that instead for tweets, etc because travelling light in London is handy. If you do bring it, make sure it's insured and be careful not to go wandering around any council estates on your own.

    London is very expensive, so bring lots of £s with you and be prepared to shop and party too!

    The geekiest thing I can think of is the national museum of computing but that's in Bletchley, Milton keynes. It's about one train and bus or taxi away from London. The train takes about an hour and the bus or taxi between 10 and 30 minutes.
    Here's the website :
    http://www.tnmoc.org/

  287. Tips from an ex-londerer by 1s44c · · Score: 1

    Forget the laptop. Believe it or not you can survive two weeks without it.

    Go see the 39 steps, see Dylan Moran, go to the mermaids tail in Leicester square and have a deep fried mars bar. Go to some pubs and try bitter, you won't like it but try it anyway.

    Stay away from the soho clip joints. If a hot girl asks you to come in to see a show just smile politely and keep walking.

    Go for the tourist bus ride and the London eye as well.

    Just take your mind off computers for a while. You are not going to turn into an ignorant savage if you don't read slashdot for 2 weeks.

    1. Re:Tips from an ex-londerer by neurovish · · Score: 1

      Forget the laptop. Believe it or not you can survive two weeks without it.

      Go see the 39 steps, see Dylan Moran, go to the mermaids tail in Leicester square and have a deep fried mars bar. Go to some pubs and try bitter, you won't like it but try it anyway.

      Stay away from the soho clip joints. If a hot girl asks you to come in to see a show just smile politely and keep walking.

      Go for the tourist bus ride and the London eye as well.

      Skip the London eye and buy some dinner instead...it's pretty anti-climactic. If you're really curious, look it up on google image search.

    2. Re:Tips from an ex-londerer by 1s44c · · Score: 1

      Skip the London eye and buy some dinner instead...it's pretty anti-climactic. If you're really curious, look it up on google image search.

      The idea is to get away from computers for a while. Google image search is no substitute for seeing things with your own eyes.

  288. I second the netbook by flicman · · Score: 1

    Skimming the responses, I'm surprised that there aren't more calls for this. Unless this is a working vacation, you're going to want to spend your time doing rather than surfing, anyway. I've taken my original Eee to europe twice now and it's been exactly what I've wanted. WiFi is easy to get on for free, and since you're there more than a day or so, you'll probably find a place you like that you can get online for nary a penny.

    While I also agree with the choruses of "go and do" both above and below, you're probably not in much danger of sitting in your room all day reading slashdot - that wasn't your question. A netbook will help with that because it doesn't facilitate long surf sessions, but does plenty (IM! Email! skype!) for communication, and most "modern" netbooks will also have plenty of space for backups of your photos.

    Enjoy!

  289. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by ChartBoy · · Score: 1
    TFL: Tube for London, aka the subway.

    Actually Transport for London, which includes bus, bike, foot, boat, and other options for getting around the London area. The TFL Journey Planner is a fantastic resource.

    It has been mentioned elsewhere, but I'll repeat the advice: get an Oyster card when you arrive. It's faster and cheaper than other ways to pay.

  290. British Museum == Boring by rockhome · · Score: 1

    Aside from the Rosetta Stone, the British Museum isn't really that interesting.

    Churchill's War Rooms, The Tate Modern, and the Royal Observatory and Greenwhich are far more interesting.
    Also, don't forget to day trip to Bletchley Park.

    The British Museum just doesn't have anything very interesting.

  291. Power in the airport & hotel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For power, just pack an adapter or two for the UK style outlets plus a "triple tap" 3-way for USA plugs. Check to make sure, but your laptop power supply, cell phone charger and camera chargers will probably be fine on 240 volts AC / 50 hertz.

    Invariably the only power outlet you can find in the airport will have someone already plugged into it. Don't hesitate to ask to tap in, once its obvious you have the right 3-way adapter you'll get a nod and a respectful smile. You can then use it to power your laptop + cell phone charger from one connection in the hotel (its harder to lose or forget a charger in the bathroom if they're all plugged in together near the desk instead).

    A few extra laptop batteries, or a large battery (check out http://batterygeek.net or similar) will make you the envy of your seatmates who ran out of juice 4 hours into the flight and are stuck watching the in-flight entertainment and the moving map display on the seatback... very handy for spending the day in the jury duty pool waiting room back home too.

  292. London contd by patrick0 · · Score: 1

    I'd definitely take a laptop for a 2 week trip as it makes planning and locating touristy things that much easier. Try and stay in a place with free wifi - hostels will usually have free wifi, hotels usually charge. Free wifi options: http://londonist.com/2007/05/free_wifi_in_lo.php

    For getting from Heathrow to London - if you're staying near Paddington I'd suggest the Heathrow Connect instead of the expensive Heathrow Express. They both run on the same track but the Connect is less frequent (every 30m and has a couple of stops so takes 10 mins longer) but is almost half the price. Alternatively take the tube (subway) if you've got the time to spare or aren't staying near Paddington.

    Transport: the tube is usually the easiest option, though often it's quicker walking if only one stop. If staying out, tubes stop around 00:30 (earlier on Sunday nights) but there are nightbuses - see http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/ for planning a bus route to/from your hotel. For tubes/buses: you can buy a (pay as you go) Oyster card when you get here (£3 refundable deposit).
    Cabs: you can only hail black cabs. Other cabs (usually cheaper) are called "minicabs" and can only be booked by phone. Addison Lee is the biggest minicab company but not the cheapest.

    http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/calendar/events/ is good for London geeky events - worth checking out when you're here to see if anything interests you. Other people have covered the museums so I won't bother.

    Worth a read: http://wikitravel.org/en/London

    Buy a copy (in London) of Time Out London (weekly events/gigs/film/tv/theatre etc listing magazine) and also one of their London guidebooks. They're the best guides. May also be worth picking up a free "TNT" magazine (they're everywhere) for gig/party listings - is popular with backpackers/younger people.

    Try some markets in London too: Borough Food Market on a Sat morning; perhaps Camden Market ("alternative" but rather tired) on Sat afternoon. Spitalfields on a Sunday (trendy junk). Columbia Road flower market on Sunday morning is very good too (for something a bit different). There's Christmas markets in Hyde Park and by the O2 (North Greenwich tube).
    Main deparment stores are between Oxford St tube & Marble arch tubes - just walk along Oxford St. Selfridges is more popular with Londoners than Harrods. If you want a shopping mall then there's Westfield (Google for locations).

    Get a single ticket on a boat to Greenwich to see the meridian line, naval observatory, painted hall etc. But don't take a boat back as it takes forever - instead get the tube back.

    Out of town: Brighton is also worth a weekend trip (train is 1hr from Victoria or London Bridge). Sat/Sun are best for the shops on the lanes. It's the closest seaside town to London - though take a map so you know how to find the lanes (on left hand side as you walk from station to seaside). December won't be so great but it's still worth a visit.

    You can go to Oxford, Brighton etc on the bus but I prefer the train (quicker, more comfortable). I'd recommend pre-booking at least a day in advance - when you book you can choose to pickup the ticket from a machine at the station. http://www.eastcoast.co.uk/ is a good site for getting an idea of rail fares - if they're too expensive then take a bus (most buses leave from the coach station near Victoria station).

  293. West End Theatre by northernboy · · Score: 1

    Despite over 700 replies to this point, I don't think anyone mentioned West End theatres http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_End_theatre/ or alternatively http://wikitravel.org/en/London/West_End/. It's been a while since I was in London, but we discovered that a half-hour before showtime, there were deeply discounted tickets available to shows trying to fill the house. We had a great time going to whatever was available. Definitely worth a shot, since as everyone else has noted, you should try not too plan too much, and just go for it. Have a great trip!

  294. take your camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    be sure to take lots of pictures of the police. they love it.

  295. What? by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 1
    This is your first time out of the country, huh? Unless you have a specific purpose for your laptop it's totally arbitrary. For all practical technical purposes London is the US. A plug adapter is like a $1 investment and you're not going to have problems with WiFi. If your phone is quadband or 900/1800MHz it should be fine too.

    If you have an iPhone, bring it as a laptop replacement for quick lookups, route planning, GPS and event planning (finding opening and closing times etc).

    That said, unless you have a reason to bring any of this stuff with you, you're probably just as well without it. Big SD cards are cheap these days. Leaving your laptop in the US will make you more portable and less paranoid.

    1. Re:What? by Shadyman · · Score: 1

      If you have an iPhone, bring it as a laptop replacement for quick lookups

      Hope you have a good roaming data plan! Wasn't there a guy that brought his iPhone to europe and came home to a ~$1000 phone bill?

    2. Re:What? by ProfessionalCookie · · Score: 1

      Haha- yeah. New sim card and/or wifi. I use my iPhone this way all over the world :)

  296. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by Malc · · Score: 1

    Looks like a nice place, and well reviewed (check out Tripadvisor, if you haven't already), which is probably a good endorsement. Probably quite safe, although I'm always paranoid about leaving things in my room if there isn't a locked down safe. Laptops are often too large for safes anyway. Earls Court is a convenient location. You might be able to get a little cheaper, but I'm sure quality will quickly drop. One of my work colleagues from Germany was looking at a hotel in the Paddington area, which he saw for 50 quid/night - sorry he's gone for the day so I can't ask him. Check-out wotif.com if you want to look around more.

  297. Kew Steam Museum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Definitely visit the Kew Steam Museum in West London. Amazing collection, well informed, passionate staff. http://www.kbsm.org/

  298. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Transport for London, aka the subways, buses, light rail and pretty much every public-related transportation system in London.

  299. couchsurf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make the most of your trip and connect with locals.

    http://www.couchsurfing.org

    For the skeptics, http://www.couchsurfing.org/about.html/faq

  300. A Better Plan... by S-4'N3 · · Score: 1

    Visit Canada.

  301. Essential information by gnomeza · · Score: 1
    If you're travelling to London you ought to know about these:

    It's also useful to know that each post code (zip code) is allocated to a small group of houses (say ten-ish) within the same street.
    That's accurate enough to navigate using just the house number and post code. So if you wanted directions from, say, the British Museum (WC1B 3DG) to Buckingham Palace (SW1A 1AA) you'd google this: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=WC1B 3DG to SW1A 1AA

    Get yourself a London A-Z (Zed ;) - most of the time dead tree maps still beat electronic (and there's no cellphone reception on the Underground).

    Get yourself an Oyster Card. It's a significantly cheaper way to travel.
    You don't have to register it if perhaps you're sensitive about personal privacy (just remember you're constantly under CCTV surveillance).

    CCTV cameras will watch you everywhere Unless you happen to be the victim of a crime, in which case the cameras will be "switched off" or "pointing the other way".

    Mobile data is pretty cheap (assuming you have a compatible phone) - pick up a Three or T-Mobile sim at the airport.

    Lastly, no geek can be without their coffee fix: try Monmouth Coffee, Flat White or Cafe Amato.

  302. ENJOY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    - The extremely hyped Tottenham Court Road as the technology shops/centre of London is a major downer (once you check out what's on offer).
    - Wifi Hotspots are expensive and not secure according to this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2009/10/wifi_hot_spots_not_secure.html
    - Check out the websites of Computer Science department of London universities (Imperial College, UCL (not UeL which is shit and in the shitty part of London)) - maybe some interesting talks going on at that time of the year.
    - Go to Brick Lane for authentic curry (the rest of London is really slap-on curry or slap-on italian sauce served in a restaurant) and google that arsy chef Gordon Ramsay, he's got 1 or 2 restaurants in London - you might want to check what's the deal is all about. But be warned, it'll be quite pricey.
    - Check out Canary Wharf (daytime for pictures, but it's prettier at night), that's our "Wall Street" and where those greedy pig bankers f*cked up real bad...
    - At least try the Fabric nightclub on a Friday (it's really expensive in and there's always a long & thick queue outside, so book your ticket online).
    - As for touristy attractions: London Eye is a bit of a downer but it's ok for newbies. The Tate is pretty good. Check out their paid-for galleries, the free ones are a bit budget :)
    - If you wanna check out some C++ books, go to Foyles library (on Charing Cross). And whilst we're on the subject, do check out the British Library (near Kings Cross) during the fay, it's pretty cool plus you get to see the recent renovation in that area (Kings Cross station).
    - As for transport, get your (RFID) Oystercard early and put a season ticket (1 week travel card) on it otherwise you're gonna pay through the nose when it comes to travelling through the London zones and during peak times.

    I guess that's enough ranting! :D

  303. Don't forget the "full English" by rpjs · · Score: 1

    A full English breakfast is worth trying, and close enough to some American breakfast foods as to be not wholly unfamiliar: the main difference is that we prefer not to mix sweet and savoury at breakfast as much as Americans often do.

    Someone once said that to eat well in England, you should breakfast three times a day.

  304. You're doing it wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you have to ask how to take a vacation then you're doing it wrong!

  305. should be ok in britain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't really need to change the channels on your wireless. you'll just find that the base stations in the UK use a subset of the US allocation, so your card will scan for them / see them anyway.
    I'd suggest getting out of London, if you come to the UK. London is an overpopulated hell, swarming with agitated city dwellers, and with a transport system that reached meltdown decades ago.
    It should be no problem to find wireless access in the UK, or you could just buy a cheap 3G USB dongle to get mobile broadband on pay-as-you-go. The adapters are cheap ~£30, and can be had at any mobile shop in the UK (which are so numerous, that you won't have any difficulty finding one).
    Best things to see in London for a tech person:
    - science museum
    - imperial war museum
    - lots of boring historical monuments (I guess america will fondly have their own to look at soon, to remember their own failed attempt at an empire, following their current collapse from being driven into bankruptcy by the Russians as the Russians won the Cold War - and the Republican Party helped too, of course!)

  306. Cabin pressure and such by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    Drinking water is fine, but unless someone is doing some strenuous activity, that particular pressurization (8000 ft) doesn't mean a whole lot.

    Oh, I don't know... I went to Colorado by train this summer (elevation about 6000 feet) and it knocked me on my ass for the first day or two... I've never had this kind of effect from flying - but there was definitely a transition period there where we weren't up for any kind of strenuous activity...

    --
    Bow-ties are cool.
    1. Re:Cabin pressure and such by Knara · · Score: 1

      Which was my point. As someone who moved from a lower elevation to a higher elevation, I know well that just sitting around doesn't do much, but any sort of even moderate activity requires you to adapt to the new elevation (really, more the oxygen mix in the air).

      In Colorado, however, you're also dealing with the fact that the air is deceptively dry. Whenever there are conventions here, it's important to remind the out-of-staters that we're technically in a high desert, and as such you need to drink more water than you're used to drinking to stay properly hydrated.

  307. Doctor Who! by crndg · · Score: 1

    If you're a Doctor Who fan (and what self-respecting geek isn't?), plan out the locations you want to see while there at doctorwholocations.net. But don't spend your whole time there going from location to location. Hit a few key places, and maybe even do some that are off the beaten path. Sometimes just finding them makes for some of your most memorable trip experiences.

    If you're a Neil Gaiman fan, read "Neverwhere" before you go for a helpful guide to the Underground system. Or see if you can arrange a visit to the old Highgate Cemetery West, the inspiration for his "Graveyard Book."

    Buy theatre tickets ahead of time (wayyy ahead of time, if possible).

    Our netbook's wireless worked just fine. One hotel had free wireless, another's was kind of pricey, but we enjoyed uploading pictures for friends and family back home.

  308. Horological sights: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Worshipful Company of Clock Makers at Guild Hall in The City. And of course Greenwich Observatory.

  309. I live in Newbury, UK Email if you wish. by cpuffer_hammer · · Score: 1

    Audrey23
    @cpuffer9 .red-belt .org .uk

    yes this is a disposable address

  310. Free WiFi by MythMoth · · Score: 1

    In general you have to pay for WiFi in chain cafes (Starbucks and the like). However, many of the independents and smaller chains offer it for free.

    There's free WiFi and power points in the cafe at the British Library.

    The cafe in Foyles bookstore (a geek venue in its own right) on Charing Cross Road is pretty geek friendly. It's handy for the computer section, there's often free live Jazz playing, and (when it works which is not always) there's free WiFi. Oh and the cake is good there.

    Tottenham Court Road is the local centre for technology shopping in the area if you find you've forgotten to bring something vital.

    The National Film Theatre under the south arches of Waterloo Bridge has the broadest arts cinema coverage in the capital. The Electric Cinema in Notting Hill Gate is the comfiest cinema in the capital.

    For non-geeky but interesting things to do while you're here pick up a copy of Time Out. I'd recommend the 100 club on Oxford Street on Monday nights though.

    --
    --- These are not words: wierd, genious, rediculous
  311. Dekspace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pay a visit to Dekspace (http://dek.spc.org/) in Greenwich - a nice area to visit anyway. This is one of the geekiest spaces in London - a general hang-out for hackers and wi-fi phreaks. Ask for the head honcho, James Stevens.

  312. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Places that aren't mentioned in the guide books often:

      - The Sir John Soane museum. Like the British Museum, but squashed into a residential property. 150 paintings in one (British size) room - bits of the walls fold out. A 3000 year old sarcophagus. Original plans for the Bank of England.

      - The clock gallery at the British Museum. Mechanisms!

      - Monmouth coffee in the seven dials (or by Borough Market, which is also worth visiting).

      - 7th floor bar at the Tate Modern. Second cheapest place to get a good view of the London panorama.

      - Primrose hill. The cheapest place to get a view of the London panorama.

    --
    Beep beep.
  313. General travel stuff by D'Eyncourt · · Score: 1

    For seeing the sights in London I heartily recommend London Walks (requires Javascript). They feature several trips which go all across London and have many for particular locations like the British Museum (which has 13 acres of floor space, so it's easy to get lost) which can optimize your time by hitting the highlights for general touristy stuff (leaving you time to go back for further perusal of those or looking for off-the-beaten-track items of personal interest). Do take advantage of some of their day-long trips to places outside of London such as those to Salisbury and Stonehenge, or to Canterbury and Leeds Castle, or to Bath--especially if you plan on staying in London for the entire time. Visiting only London and saying you've been to the UK would be like visiting New York City and saying you've been to the USA. If he is giving tours at your time in London, I suggest taking in the Jack the Ripper walk with Don Rumbelow (who literally wrote the book on Jack the Ripper).

    Someone recommended getting the Oyster Card, but you might check to see if the London TravelCard may be better for you. The TravelCards are only available to people visiting from outside the UK and can be cheaper than getting an Oyster Card. Here is a side-by-side comparison. Note that the TravelCard can also be purchased through the AAA.

    Check with your bank and your credit card companies for their foriegn exchange fees and use the best card for your purchases and walkabout cash. Please check NOW--you don't want to find out that your cards are unusable overseas when you get there. You might avoid the convenience kisok ATMs in favor of those at banks for obvious reasons.

    Above all else, remember: you will NOT see everything!. You can literally spend years seeing the sights of London alone much less those of the UK, so don't try to take it in all at once by limiting your visits to, say, the British Museum solely to an afternoon. Take your time and enjoy your time away from work, and if you miss something this time you can always catch that particular sight the next time you visit.

  314. read up on english behavious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Read "Watching the English: The Hidden Rules of English Behaviour " by Kate Fox on your flight over.

  315. Some Suggestions by david274 · · Score: 1

    I live in London now (from Portland, OR). My advice:

    1. Bring your laptop. You will want to be able to look up points of interests, Google maps, tfl.gov.uk (their tube and bus link - provides quickest way between two points on public transport), etc. Then, buy an adapter similar to this: UK Adapter

    2. Internet: the two best places to find free internet are McDonalds (one thing they have done correctly) and libraries. Also, many cafes will provide free internet. If your hotel does not, I would suggest going to a 3G store (or a Carphone Warehouse store - they are everywhere) - buy a USB stick for 3G Mobile Broadband. It works great almost all over London - very, very useful, and I have even occasionally streamed video on it.

    3. Oyster card: at any tube station buy an Oyster card. Buy it for two weeks (or however long you are going to stay) and buy it for Zones 1 and 2. There will be almost nothing outside of Zones 1 and 2 that will be of interest. This will allow you to get on any tube or bus.

    4. Markets: As previous posts have mentioned, I would highly suggest visiting different markets around the city. My three favorites are: Borough Market (open Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and it has existed since 43 A.D.), the Flower Market (Sundays only), and the Sunday UpMarket (Sundays only - features awesome food and amazing clothes - usually handmade designer pieces). See this post on Yelp for it: London Markets

    5. Museums: As the previous posters have said, London has amazing museums.

    6. Shows: I would suggest going and seeing a show. I just saw Avenue Q, which is hilarious (and you can get tickets for 10 quid). And, the show tells you the purpose of the internet: The Internet is for...

    7. Buy a guidebook with a map: I would suggest Lonely Planet's guide book for London. Having something that explains the historical significant of most places is what makes London so amazing. Also, must have maps to carry around with you - the grid system was a great invention!

    8. Rent a car one day: This will cost about 100 quid (plus 30 to 50 for gas). Make sure it is automatic (it is hard enough driving on the other side of the road without having to shift with your left hand). The countryside outside of London is amazing. I would suggest visiting the Cotswolds - amazing little villages with historic castles, churches, narrow roads, brick streets, and amazing countryside: Cotswolds

    9. Football: I would also highly suggest a football (soccer) match. A live match is amazing - worth whatever tickets cost. The energy is incredible.

    10. Always pack an umbrella and wear shoes that can get wet. It will rain while you are out, and it is better to be prepared than soaking wet.

    11. Get up early! It gets dark here at 4:30pm, so I would suggest getting up as early as possible to take advantage of the day.

    Good luck! London is an awesome city, and you will have an amazing time.

  316. Pizza by Doug+Neal · · Score: 1

    If you like pizza and would like one in authentic Italian style at an insanely cheap price, go to Franco Manca in Brixton market. It's made by real Italians and I've heard it described as the best pizza you can get outside Italy, the best pizza in London, the best pizza in the UK etc etc and can confirm first-hand that it is indeed "bloody good". It is a completely different beast to pizza you get in America (also damn good, but different). The awkward thing is that because it's inside a covered market it has to close when the market closes, so no evenings or Sundays. And you might have to queue for 20 minutes or so. And you don't get much elbow room. And you might have to share your table with a stranger. All worth it though :)

  317. Here's some tips by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    Carry your wallet in your front pocket while on foot, and don't forget to keep to the wrong side of the road while driving. Also put a Canada patch on all items of luggage and clothing.

  318. Re:HSDPA modem, was dont overthink by Retron · · Score: 1

    Do those still roam on Orange's 2G network when out of range of 3's 3G network?

    As far as I know, yes - my 3 phone can only manage a 2G connection at home, albeit in the middle of nowhere.

    Whatsmyip reports nat70.mia.three.co.uk when I go online, so 3 is still involved for Web access even in a 2G area.

  319. Brains in jars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Brains in jars is what you want!

    The Grant museum is a great lil place. Very small but if you like preserved animals, skeletons and brains in jars it's the place to go.

    http://www.ucl.ac.uk/museums/zoology/

  320. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, it doesn't look like anyone has pointed this out, but the T in TFL stands for TERRAPINS.

  321. Travel to London and Europe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In London, I recommend the Victoria & Albert museum, and St Paul's Cathedral. In St Paul's, you can go up to a couple of viewing points high inside the church, then further up to the outside of the dome. A very cool view, if you're ok with heights.

    It's easy to kill a couple weeks in London, but I wouldn't recommend it. Particularly in December. I would do something like this:

    - 5 days in London
    - 2 days in southern England, outside of London. Say, a day for Warwick castle and Stratford upon Avon (Shakespeare's house and related stuff), and a day for the town of Bath.
    - 6 days in Portugal. 3 in Lisbon and Sintra, 3 to chill out on the south coast. Much cheaper than England, better weather, still plenty to see and do. The price difference on pretty much everything probably covers the cost of the discount airline flight, so this shouldn't hurt your budget.

    If not Portugal, southern Spain. Or, if you really want to go heavy on the museums and churches, Paris.

    Finally, the very best travel advice - pack as light as possible. For a two week trip, you should not have to check luggage. Seriously.
    Buy shampoo when you get to England, Marks & Spencer will sell you the same stuff you get here. If you've got some old socks and underwear that has you thinking "I probably ought to throw this away", bring it with you and wear it for the first week. When you're done with it, toss it in the bin and buy some new stuff. That saves you space and keeps you from needing to do laundry. If you're motivated, you can get by with just a carry-on.

  322. Bring a lot of money by neurovish · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not sure if anybody has mentioned this, but London is insanely expensive. Imagine New York pricing on everything, except multiply that by the current exchange rate ( 1gpb = 1.65), plus add in some VAT. Basically, if you run in an off license (british for kwikie mart it would seem) for a bottle of water, it will be about $4 for something non trendy. Also, don't expect your credit/debit card to work anywhere, all the cards over there have chips and vendors either don't want to use the mag stripe or don't even know that it is possible. Fortunately though, most ATMs will work (and your bank will probably charge you $3 each time you use one).

    1. Re:Bring a lot of money by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1

      I second that. London is expensive. Especially in tourist spots.

      I was last there when 1 GBP was 2 USD ouch! It is better now at 1.60, but still...

      Note, however, that you can find reasonable prices in a normal grocery store - pick up your bottle of water there. Also, speaking of stores, do see that tourist stuff (like the Tower of London, etc.) but also pop into a grocery store, just to see what's the same and what's different than what you are used to.

      If you are really spending 2 weeks on one city, you are really going to want a hotel walking distance to a tube station. Mind the gap and have fun!

      --
      This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
    2. Re:Bring a lot of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " Basically, if you run in an off license (british for kwikie mart it would seem) for a bottle of water, it will be about $4 for something non trendy"

      An off-licence is an off-licence, and a min market is a mini market. A place that sells alcohol for consumption off licensed premises. Some newsagents/corner shops are off-licenses, and some are not. If you go into pretty much any newsagent in london you can get a bottle of water for about £1, maybe £1.20 at the worst. This is hardly $4 unless you're an australian.
       

    3. Re:Bring a lot of money by xaxa · · Score: 1

      Also, don't expect your credit/debit card to work anywhere, all the cards over there have chips and vendors either don't want to use the mag stripe or don't even know that it is possible.

      Explain that you are American and that "we haven't got chips yet". It's only ~4 years since everyone in the UK got chipped cards, although it has cut fraud massively.

      (They are hesitant to use the mag stripe because using the mag stripe on a chipped UK card means the retailer loses out in cases of fraud. Getting a validated PIN using the chip means the bank will still pay the retailer.)

      Off license = place primarily selling alcoholic drinks, open late. You need a "license to sell alcohol to be consumed on the premises" (i.e. run a pub/bar), or an off [the premises] license to sell it in a shop.
      Newsagents = shop selling newspapers etc, plus usually 'essential' food (tinned stuff, bread etc)
      Corner shop = less newspapers, more food (doesn't really need to be on a corner). All over the UK the big supermarkets are taking over these shops, most are now called Tesco Express, Sainsbury's Local or similar.

  323. Things I wished I had been told before I went... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have visited the UK on several occassions and have enjoyed each trip, Some things I wish people had told me before I went the first time... If you bump into someone on the street and say excuse me, don't be surprised if they look at you attentively as if waiting to hear you ask a question, British english common usage is to ask excuse me before asking a person a question. Definitely visit a local pub, preferrably outside of London, The local Pub is a cornerstone of British society, remember not to loiter at the bar, approach the bar, politely ask the barman(or woman) for a pint of X (X being bitter, best bitter, mild, stout etc.) and expect to pay in cash. Try a full english breakfast - Britains culinary gift to the rest of the world. If you want to see something very unusual pay a visit to the Hook Norton Brewery in Oxfordshire which has the only Still-in-Production Victorian Steam Engine http://hooknortonbrewery.co.uk/ as well as some really nice beer. If you can make it as far north as York, visit the Shambles, a mediavel area of town which gives you an idea of what life was like 500+ years ago. Remember to be on your best behavior, respect others, be polite, You will find that many of the things which set you apart as a geek in the USA are normal behaviors i.e. Shyness, reservedness etc. The English are in general more reserved then Americans BUT will warm up to someone who treats with them politely and avoids being an "Ugly American" Also enjoy a pint of best bitter for me Keith

  324. Re:HSDPA modem, was dont overthink by teh+kurisu · · Score: 1

    I should have been clearer - 3 only ceased roaming on Orange for mobile broadband customers, not phone customers.

  325. Go without the internets for a while! by joocemann · · Score: 1

    You will see more of london that way.

    Seeing london on the internet doesn't require you to fly over there and pay for hotels and crap.

    Set it all aside and do something completely different for a change! I bet you'll love it.

  326. Isn't this *why* you bought a laptop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I travel A LOT for work (usually in 4 different continents and twice as many countries per month), and all I need is a $20 universal power adapter. If you're going to London all you need is a $5 one specific to their plugs. There's wireless everywhere and you'll hate yourself for not taking your laptop.

    I think this decision is about on par with "should i take my toothbrush."

    All that region stuff is a waste of time.

  327. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by ais523 · · Score: 1

    Also, for short distances on deep Tube lines, you actually have to walk further to get down to the level of the train and back up again than you would just walking overland. Tube stops tend to be very close together, especially near the centre.

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  328. Travel tips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Convert your money to Pounds before leaving the US. Most banks will be able to order the currency for you but give them a few days to have it delivered to the bank. If you don't have enough time, you can convert your currency at an international airport. Usually they will have a deal for a zero conversion fee if you convert X amount. Using public transportation can be expensive (as will everything in London) so download an offline app for London that will help be your guide to things to do within walking distance. Most hotels will have a power converter and plug adapter available upon request - no big deal there.

    Bring a nice rain jacket! I just came back from the UK and its cold and wet! I bought an Arcteryx Men's Beta SL from Moosejaw.com and its great for their weather type. Buy 1 size larger for layering with sweaters.

    If you've never driven a right-hand drive car, I would suggest giving it a try. My first time was one of my most fond memories of the UK. Try some where outside of London first and make sure the rental has a GPS!

    Have fun.

  329. Cheap adapter and Science Museum by RJBotting · · Score: 1

    I got a cheap but usable adapter from Target that handles most electronic and electrical devices.... with the help of a rubber band or two. Probably the geekiest place in London is the Science Museum in Kennsington. What is not to love in computers dating back before Babbage and large steam driven devices,

  330. Netbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been doing a lot (20+ weeks per year) all over the world (this week Paris!) and have found that the $350 I paid for a netbook with an actual hard drive (10.1" screen) is a lot better for traveling than traveling with the corporate laptop (14.x" screen). Plus my Ubuntu netbook is faster than the Windoze laptop the company provided me with!

  331. Tips to avoid annoying the locals by webtoe · · Score: 1
    As a native, I hope this list helps:
    • It may be spelt Leicester Square but it's pronounced Lecester square. Also hoe-bun (Holborn).
    • In London, always look *BOTH* ways. Just because the sign says it's a one way street, doesn't mean anyone is going to adhere to it.
    • Don't leave your bag on the floor. Ever. Sit it on your lap, or on the table in front of you.
    • Keep your wallet in an inside pocket of your coat, zipped up. Keep your Oyster card (get one!) similarly safe somewhere but not _in_ your wallet. If one gets nicked you still have the other to get back to your hotel with.
    • Please stand on the right, walk down the left of the escalator.
    • If the tube carriage is very full make sure you move all the way down inside. Don't worry, if you ask nicely people will let you get off at your stop (but not if you've pissed them off by hogging all the space)
    • Wait for the little green man before crossing the road (if you're waiting at a crossing). People who know the roads will often leg it across because they know that the traffic lights are about to change but you won't know that and you don't want to be splattered across a bus' windscreen. I've had instances where I've legged it across the road and unwitting tourists have just followed assuming it's safe. Don't be a lemming.
    • If you have friends that you're going to meet, get a shitty pay as you go mobile for the trip. It makes life so much easier.
    • Go to Borough Market. It's open Fridays and Saturdays. Get there about 11ish, just walk around and try some of the sampler food there and enjoy the smell of proper food. Grab a Veal burger if you can be bothered to queue. They'll probably be serving mulled wine at the beer stall as well this time of year.
    • 'The Clink' museum is nearby as well which I think is a little better than the London Dungeon and Borough Market is also where you'd want to start your walk along the southbank. Just follow the crowds of people. You'll go past (this is not exhaustive) The Golden Hinde replica boat thingy, The Clink, the Oxo tower (good but expensive restaurant and bar), Tate Modern (well worth it and free), St Paul's is just over the Millennium Bridge, the IBM building, the National Theatre, British Film Institue, over the river at Waterloo bridge is Somerset House (inside is the Courtauld Institute of Art, if it isn't cheap then it is free. I was a student at King's next door so had free access), between the QEII exhibition centre and the London Eye there are lots of stupid living statue people which some tourists seem to love. They used to just get in my way. Opposite the Eye is the old GLA building. You can buy your tickets for the eye there but a little further down, past all the shitty museumy things, there is the Namco arcade. Think there's also a Manga Museum somewhere near there as well.
    • This might sound callous but don't give homeless people money. They need help, not just change, and your money would be better spent helping charity's who help them. Shelter or Emmaus for example or the Big Issue. Big Issue paper sellers are the one exception to the rule. It not only is a good publication but it also helps the seller out with getting back on their feet. Just make sure they are wearing their ID card and aren't hard selling. I personally like the guy who hangs out outside Somerset house.
    • People talk about the cold but the rain is worse. It's been pissing it down here for weeks now so bring a waterproof coat and some boots (not Wellingtons, you won't be able to walk for long in them). Umbrellas will get snatched out of your hand by the wind and will potentially maim people like me who are trying to get passed you on the street.
    • If you're lost or trying to have a look around don't just stop in the middle of the street. There is probably someone walking behind you (possilbly me) that you just stopped in front
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    1. Re:Tips to avoid annoying the locals by johnslater · · Score: 1

      Gerard Hoffnung offers these additional tips:

      - You will oblige your chambermaid by hanging your mattress out of
      the window every morning.

      - All London brothels display a blue lamp.

      - Ignore all left and right signs- these are merely political slogans.

      - Have you heard the famous echo in the reading room of the British
      Museum?

      You're welcome.

  332. Image your HD by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

    Image your HD.

    Then format it, fill it up, reformat it at least three times.

    Install a user-friendly linux distro, which should take care of your travel needs.

    Once you're back home, transfer all your travel-related new files to another media, and put your old image back on your HD.

  333. Have an iPhone? by akmofo · · Score: 1

    Buy offMaps (it's .99). You can highlight an area, and it will download all the maps you need offline. Don't try and use the gps while in Airplane mode though, it doesn't work. Instead, enable the SIM Lock on your phone to preven unnecessary data/voice usage, but it will still allow the GPS to work.

  334. Better check for exportability by Archfeld · · Score: 1

    and taking any electronice device, it HAD BETTER be sqeaky clean in terms of encryption and any sort of possibly objectionable material. Your best bet would be to get a new clean net-book, and don't forget the power adaptors. It might even make sense to get one AFTER you get their, to avoid the customs mess and any compatability issues with power. I don't recall having too much success with wireless but it has been a few years now, but there were internet cafe's all over the place so I was able to stay current with the email and such. At the time I was glad I did NOT have to carry my laptop but to each there own..

    any way it works out have a great trip and DON'T be a typical American tourist PLEASE :)

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  335. London Transit Museum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Either no one mentioned it or it got buried, but I think the London Transit (Transport?) Museum is worth the visit if you're a train nerd like me. It's private so a little pricey, but the displays and original vehicles are worth it. It tells the history of the tube and trains and buses in London.

    I think it's cool.

  336. Yeah ... by jopet · · Score: 1

    "mind the gap" and follow the thousands of other rules and recommendations the Brits love to give to everyone all the time. Essentially, lean back and let yourself get treated as a little child that is afraid and constantly concerned with "safety" and desperately crying for a big brother who puts up millions of CCTVs, and peeping toms ("CCTV operators"), and police, and security officers, and signs and announcement boards and leaflets and ...

  337. safety advice by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

    Watch out for 'varlets'. They're everwhere, I hear.

  338. Leave the laptop etc at home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Golly gee, how ever did anybody visit London in the days before electronic leashes? Oh, what to do? What to do??"

    Leave the laptop and all of your toys at home. Best way to see a city like London is to *see* it -- and that means not wandering and worrying about wi-fi hotspots, kiosks, facebooking, "tweetting", etc.

    Print off a few pages of notes (some good suggestions in this thread), an Underground map, and have at it. //TB

  339. I don't know... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    I laughed. Then again, I have a keen sense of humor, irony, logic and I prefer subtle multilayered jokes.
    That is why I always incorporate a fart at the end of my "deeper" jokes.
    Alas... farts don't carry over very well in text.

    I used to use smiley faces to indicate subtle jokes, still there were people who didn't understand it was a joke and treated it as a serious comment.
    And there we come to the problem.

    See... You don't use "woosh!" to indicate that the joke lacks humor.
    Some jokes are actually sad or downright disgusting (like the one with a truckload of babies and a truckload of sand).
    Woosh is there to indicate that it didn't even dawn on the commenter that you were joking.
    Despite the fact that the Parent Post has a link to a comic and a dark humor comedy.

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    1. Re:I don't know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blah, blah, blah ...

      The more you explain it, the funnier it aint

    2. Re:I don't know... by geezer+nerd · · Score: 1

      As someone who has traveled, AND migrated from one country to another, these are very serious subjects. I have seen comments similar to your "joke" made in all seriousness elsewhere by people who were ignorant.

      The OP asked a serious question, and given his apparent naivete on the topic, I thought to bring up another consideration that noobs might not think of. But then, he did mention only going to London, so I was inappropriate in the end anyway.

  340. Take your laptop!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go to a Carphone Warehouse store for best, cheapest selection of pay-as-you-go wireless evdo broadband dongles from different providers. I went this summer, ignored that advice, got a vodafone prepay evdo dongle at the Vodafone booth in Paddington station, and really overpaid.

    Check the museum web sites for geeky lectures.

    I really liked The Wellcome Collection, in Bloomsbury, near The British Library - it's looks at the intersection between medicine and art/culture - went on some really interesting free guided tours there, too.

    I enjoyed going to free lectures at radical lefty bookseller Housman's, near St. Pancras and King's Cross rail stations and The British Library, but I'm a big lefty. The lectures were geeky/historical/author readings plus Q&A.

    The British Library rocked my world! They are basically a museum in their own right, with an amazing collection of manuscripts - plus tons of people hanging out wit their laptops, great little cafe.

    I didn't see much free wifi in coffeeshops, or many internet kiosks.

    This blog ("Ian Visits") was my best find - I found many geeky events on here.
    http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/
    Also, consider joining Couchsurfing - there are sooo many London groups which do things like trivia nights in local pubs.

  341. London by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's some tips having been a geek and gone to London. These are just geek specific.
    1) I've found you want to bring a power strip, small along with the power adapter. Lately with some many things to charge, you need more plugs. I am guessing you will probably need one plug for your laptop, one for your camera, one for your phone, and maybe one for your mp3 player of choice. You fit the adapter in to the plug and then the power strip into the adapter.
    2) Get a good laptop case for the overhead. Lost a beloved laptop last year since the planes are so crowded now, when the laptop was stowed, someone jammed their suit case into my soft laptop case and cracked the screen. Didn't pull my laptop out until the second leg of my flight when it was too late to find out who did it.
    3) GPS or a portable google maps device. Very useful for finding where you are in relation to the site you want to see.
    4) Don't bring an expensive laptop or a large laptop. Its very hard opening a laptop over 14" in the airplane and if something happens to it, you don't want to be out $$$.
    5) Stow most of your cables and power supplies in the checked luggage. You probably won't need to recharge your phone or you camera while traveling on board a plane, so why pack them in your carry on?
    6) Convert some movies to MP4 (or other format). DVDs eat up room and power from your laptop. It easier to just to watch files from a flash drive.
    7) Bring some flash drives. Cheap large USB drives or if your laptop uses it, SD cards, can hold a ton of pictures and it sips power from your laptop compared to the DVD player or hard drive.

  342. Place to see and do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are a ton of things to see, do and eat/drink. I like using the DK guide to London. It has a nice Tube (subway) map and map of London with locations. Beyond that, I'd also recommend the Original London Walking Tours. They are fairly cheap and informative. You do tend to walk a couple of miles with them and try to avoid overlapping areas as they will tend to go over the same historical facts. If you want to see Oxford, the walking tour has one that goes out there. Its more costly than the regular ones mainly because it requires a train trip. Also, I found while both sexes of tour guides were amusing, the men tend to be louder and easier to hear.

    Don't eat in the historical pubs. The food is not all that great. The beer is pretty good though, so enjoy a pint there. The more modern pubs has better fare. Ask the locals, or the police where to eat in a pub. They'll know whats good.

    The Tube is very busy in the early morning and evening, especially on Friday. During those times, in London, I found it's nicer to walk.

    Westminister Abbey gets a long line to get in, so go early.

  343. Londonistan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't say out loud, "D***, has there been a genocide? Where are all the white people?"

  344. Re:HSDPA modem, was dont overthink by Bert64 · · Score: 1

    He did say he was going to London, which last i checked was a central city in the UK...
    Any UK mobile operator which fails to have signal in London has to be pretty useless.

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  345. Re:cool restaurant / War rooms by Incadenza · · Score: 1

    Inamo was featured on Engadget and definitely a place to check out.

    One place I would have liked to check out but which did not fit in my trip are the cabinet war rooms where you can see (amongst other WW2 things) the hotline between the UK prmier and the US president on display.

  346. Nonsense by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    London is quite a big place, If you go to Greenwich area the Science Museum.area is too far away. Even attractions that are centrally located (lets say Westminster area and the South Bank area) are 5 minutes away by underground rather than 15 or 20 minutes walk in the horrid weather of Nov or Dec.

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    1. Re:Nonsense by qc_dk · · Score: 1

      London is quite a big place, If you go to Greenwich area the Science Museum.area is too far away.

      Alright, it's a wee bit of walk, but certainly not impossible. I'll also admit to enjoy walking more than the average person.

      Even attractions that are centrally located (lets say Westminster area and the South Bank area) are 5 minutes away by underground rather than 15 or 20 minutes walk in the horrid weather of Nov or Dec.

      Horrid weather? In London? Are you by any chance a southern fairy? :-) In december I will recommend walking even more. Standing thronged together in a damp and warm environment during flu season is a remarkably bad idea.

  347. You can't use mainline trains. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    Not for now, from January you will be able to use them with Oyster card as well, but only in the Greater London Area.

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  348. It's easier than you think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no need for any sort of power converter or new cord. Just get a plug adapter that adapts the US three-pin plug found in most laptops to the large British-style three prong plug. These are easily found in most travel stores and international airport gift stores/newstands. A current converter is not needed as all laptops I know of (and I know of quite a few) have a power adapter that automatically adjusts to 220 V/50 Hz. This is the same with cellphones, by the way. Note that this does not apply to "all" power adapters; read the fine print on the adapter.

    Same with wifi; your laptop should automatically detect broadcasts on all channels, so no need to reconfigure anything. It just works.

    By the way, don't use your cellphone over there. The best US plans still charge $0.75/minute to use the phone. Your data plan may or may not include international roaming; if not, be prepared to pay outrageous amounts if you use data on a smartphone. The best bet is to buy a el-cheapo local phone and a pre-paid SIM card, if you need to have a phone while you're there.

    Of course, Skype is best if you don't mind being tethered to your laptop.

  349. When I grew up .... by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    .... I was taught to look in both directions.

    Once again Mexican education trounces the rest of the world's ...

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  350. There is no little Venezuela. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    It is little Venice....

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    1. Re:There is no little Venezuela. by slim · · Score: 1

      I wasn't talking about Little Venice. What I stumbled upon was one street, containing the Venezuelan embassy, several restaurants with Venezuelan flags, and lots of people talking to each other in Spanish.

      It's near Fitzroy Square.

  351. Bullshit advice. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    People dress in a myriad different ways in London, and frankly nobody could give a toss about somebody wearing shorts and a baseball cap, heck, many locals will dress like that at times (not this time of the year tough, it has been quite cold and windy the last few days).

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    1. Re:Bullshit advice. by mjwx · · Score: 1

      and frankly nobody could give a toss about somebody wearing shorts and a baseball cap

      Thats because the Londoners know he'll freeze to death before doing any damage.

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  352. In case somebody reads the above ... by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    ... it is of course not true.

    It is polite to round up to the nearest whole pound number.

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    1. Re:In case somebody reads the above ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is polite to round up to the nearest whole pound number.

      I suppose this might be supposed to be funny, but the simplest 'correct' formula** is 'add 10%, *then* round up to the nearest pound above'.

      **If you're a bit short (of money) you could get away with rounding down for amounts like x.10, x.20, and you can also bring 50p coins into it if you like.

  353. Tips from an Ex-Pat by benn333 · · Score: 1
    Being an American who has moved to Ireland (same outlets/power), here are my suggestions:
    • Check the input voltage allowances of your electronics. Only bring the stuff that lists as 100-240V~ for voltage. If it's only 100-120V~ you'll fry it as soon as you turn it on here.
    • Buy a universal plug adapter. Compact, and will cover you in the UK and elsewhere.
    • Check if your phone is can run on the 900 / 1800 MH bands. If not, don't bother packing it. If it does, pop into an O2 shop and see if you can get a cheap sim card. This can be way cheaper than using your US plan.
    • I've never heard of region coding for wireless. Your DVD drive yes, but just don't buy any DVDs here.

    Other than that, enjoy! And always remember, order two pints with your palm turned away from you.

  354. Oyster card *not* valid on trains (it depends...) by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    One major problem with London transport system is how confusing it may be.
    Tourists should be fine because they will rarely go out of zones 1 and 2, and will rarely use mainline trains.

    But the Oyster card works with some train companies with season tickets only (i.e. weekly, monthly or yearly tickets) but it does not work when just topping up cash as needed, and most certinly is not accepted at all outside London.

    This is changing in January, but it will be too late for tourists visiting London in December.

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  355. You're the first sausagephobic person I know about by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    English sausage are delicious and perfectly fine, one of the most traditional pub dishes, "bangers and mash", necessarily include them

    There are so many types that it would be pointless for me to write about them here, sufice to say that you ejaculations have no basis in reality.

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  356. Leave the laptop by gravis777 · · Score: 1

    You are there for vacation. Buy a couple of 8 gig SD cards from one of the online retailers where you can get them cheap, and if you have the need for the internet or something, drop into an internet cafe. Do some research before you go to know where they are (when I went a few years back, the big one I used was a block or two away from Buckingham Palace) and how much they cost. Some may even have memory card readers where, if you feel absolutely necessary to post your pics immediately, you can do it. You will probably spend about as much in your entire two weeks on a cheap internet cafe as you would buying your adaptors, and you do not have to worry about security going through your laptop.

    Also, if you are there for two weeks, take some time and get out of London. Its great for three or four days, but take some time, go see Bath, Edensbourough (I can't spell), Blackpool, etc. You will be doing yourself a favor - London is an expensive city, and the countryside is absolutely beautiful (although you are going in December - pack WARM - I went in April and was feezing).

    Also, if you got a camera that has a good video mode, may want to ditch the video camera as well. Less to carry around.

    Besides, if you do take your laptop, do you plan to carry it around London with you all day, or leave it in your hotel / hostel? Just do yourself a favor, leave it, and enjoy yourself

  357. History not your strongest subject? by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    Thailand was never part of the British Empire, as a matter of fact it has never been under foreign rule.

    So to say "England was a nation that had to conquer an empire just to find a delicious meal" and then go on talking about Thai restaurants is a bit contradictory.

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  358. Nonsense. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    Chain restaurants guarantee minimum standards to be expected.

    There are so many trustable ones in addition to the ones you mention that I will not bother to list them.

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  359. What an idiot. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    Just now, the British Museum has an exhibition about Moctezuma, the last Aztec emperor.

    It is the most comprehensive exhibition ever about this enigmatic ruler.

    The Japanese rooms are outstanding, as is the Islamic art on display.

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  360. Water is not that expensive. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    A bottle of water does not cost more than 1 pound, if you buy it in a supermarket even less, and I am talking 1 litre bottles here, smaller ones should be even cheaper.

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  361. Old Operating Theatre by GaryOlson · · Score: 1

    I accidentally stumbled across the Old Operating Theatre. Fascinating look at medicine from a time before modern medicine. Definitely worth the time and money.
    Church tours for the engineering specifications of the pipe organs and architecture.
    While in Greenwich for the planetarium, tour the Naval Academy.

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  362. How about having a holiday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your there for 2 weeks not a year!!!!!! How about getting your face away from a screen and see some of the world otherwise stay at home and play in your basement

  363. Starbucks Card == Free WiFi by Spiritwalker · · Score: 1

    Starbucks Coffee Card!!! I was just recently there (November 2009) and got a Card from Starbucks. It's a debit like card, so I put 5 pounds on it and said can I have a coffee off the card. I used it later too until it had a zero balance.

    Then you sit down with your coffee, scratch the info off the back of the card, and proceed to create an account online. Remember that this is Starbucks UK not US so enter the UK for your place of residence.

    For the rest of the week, I was always on the hunt for a Starbucks to get some WiFi for my iPhone or Mac.

    Get some good sneakers for all the walking you're going to do. And buy some scotch at the duty free on the way back.

  364. Laptop and Windows Genuine Advantage by wkaszeta · · Score: 1

    I took a USA HP WinXP laptop to the UK last summer and had automatic updates enabled. Big problem. Windows downloaded and installed an update that must have been the UK version and then Windows Genuine Advantage decided that the Windows was not licensed for the region it was in and started all the fuss with the black screen, etc. Restoring Windows to before the trip did not help. Updating in the USA after return did not fix the problem. HP Tech Service recommended running the repair CD, then going through the steps to register a new license, but just using the old license code. That worked. Check on the hotel you are intending to stay in, many charge 10+ pounds per day for access. I found that an unsecured hub was available (Doctor's Office) if I had a room on the North side of the hotel we stay in.

  365. Take a holiday -- and disconnect! by skander · · Score: 1

    For a geek, there's probably little you can find around London with your laptop that you can't find in Washington.

    However, if you leave everything behind, and try to find some country side, there's much more to learn and experience than you ever would in a museum.

    There's some sailing clubs in Brighton that would love to take you out of a spin: The decemember North Sea is vicious, but with the right crew you'll have a great adventure. Or take a ferry to some islands, Jersey maybe...

    If you wanna stay on land, check out if there are any farms in Wales or Nothern England that need a helping hand. There's hundreds of "green" projects around the UK that would love to receive visitors.

    Scottland really isn't that far away, and really is a different people and countryside. Again, try to stay out of the city, and just try to find an alternate lifestyle.

    A holiday, especially when on your own, should be something totally different. Forget your fears, put an away message on you email box, pack some work boots and just see where your plane ticket takes you.

    I've traveled to 6 continents and 27 countries in that way, and always found a way home... happier :)

  366. Xenophobe guide by mahadiga · · Score: 2, Informative
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  367. you can't avoid the cameras by twasserman · · Score: 1
    London is a surveillance society, with closed-circuit cameras everywhere: in the museums and theatres, on public transport, in and near office buildings, in your hotel lobby, and probably even in the public restrooms. I personally find that to be very creepy, and it has caused me to stop going to London. As others have noted, Heathrow Airport is pretty terrible, but you can take the Piccadilly Line subway into Central London quite easily. Make sure that you buy an Oyster Card at your first opportunity so that you don't pay the highest fares on the Underground.

    You're going to find a laptop useful, not just for your email, but for restaurant guides, theatre tickets, and all of the usual travel info. As in the US, the expensive hotels will charge you a fortune for Internet access, and the less expensive ones will provide it for free. You just need to find and set the appropriate SSID. You will find pay WiFi at Heathrow (The Cloud is pretty good service), and that will come in handy if your flight is delayed or cancelled. You should bring an unlocked GSM mobile phone, and buy a prepaid SIM card for about $20 at Phones 4U or Carphone Warehouse. I've had good success with Virgin Mobile there. That gives you a local phone and number, and avoids the roaming and data charges of your US carrier. It's easy to find an unlocked GSM phone in the US before you travel - try Craigslist.

    London theatre is outstanding, and you can often find discounted tickets at the official ticket booth in Leicester Square. Be careful about this, since there are many other ticket agencies in that neighborhood pretending to be the official one.

    Others have suggested the various London tourist attractions, but I would add that you would do well to get out of London. Both Cambridge and Oxford are easily reachable in about an hour by train (Liverpool Street for Cambridge and Paddington for Oxford). It's well worth a day trip to each, and I highly recommend seeing some of the various colleges, as well as the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford.

    As for shopping, prices in London (all of England, really) are so high that you're not going to want to buy a lot of stuff. In addition, one effect of globalization is that many products that you will find there are available in the US at lower prices. Of course, it's still enjoyable to wander through Harrod's, Hamley's, Liberty, and other unique London shops. Oxford Street and Regent Street stores will be nicely decorated for the holidays, which makes for great window shopping.

  368. Re:You're the first sausagephobic person I know ab by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

    Beside some other experiences, I have the feeling of an explosion of water, fat and liquified meat as a basis. In my mouth. That was a hot dog in Newcastle.

    OTOH, I know you can be brainwashed in less than two years into kind-of-enjoying that.

    Besides that, considering what people usually think about british cuisine, beeing afraid ONLY of sausages is a big sucess. :-)

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  369. What?!?! by Vastad · · Score: 1

    I am shocked that a website like this, filled with geeks, have forgotten to mention Forbidden Planet, the biggest comic and toy store in London - and I believe all of the UK. It's just a little bit south-east of Tottenham Court Road tube station.

    I cannot recommend strongly enough the Transport For London journey planner. It'll give you excellent guidance on getting from point A to point B, complete with selecting which types of public transport you want to use.

    It's not a bad idea to swing by Forbidden Planet on the way down to London's Chinatown. Found a nice thread here discussing Malaysian/Chinese cuisine in London.

    Soho is directly north of Chinatown. Full of sex shops, gay bars, hole-in-the-wall strip joints and prime people-watching real estate. Best to go in the evening to really see the colourful people coming out. Have a pint at the The Ship in Soho. Wonderfully weird clientele. Old middle-aged punks, lesbian goths, dodgy looking ex-roadies, pensioner couples and gawking tourists who've heard about the pub.

    Slightly north and a ways to the east of Chinatown is the Covent Garden area which is the heart of theatre in London and another great place to wander and people watch.

  370. A long-term visitor's opinion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Natural History Museum (fairy-tale building, dinosaurs, meteorites) and Science Museum in South Kensington are wonderful. The V&A across the road has a great collection of unusual musical instruments.

    The Cabinet War Rooms near Westminster are fascinating (command bunker during the war), and Bletchley Park outside London is a must for any Slashdot reader. The latter sometimes has interesting events, such as an orchestra made from the various noises of old computing machinery.

    Greenwich Observatory is worth a visit, if only to stand on the prime meridian. There's a new planetarium there too.

    Tower Bridge has an exhibit where you can walk across the top platforms, and see the guts of the old engine rooms. Interesting if you're into bridges.

    If you'll be here over winter, you can also go ice skating at Hyde Park, the Natural History Museum, and many other places.

    Ignore those who say Oxford over Cambridge - the latter is stunningly gorgeous. If you have to pick one, pick Cambridge.

    Also, try a real pub, with real hand-pulled bitter (that warm, flat beer you've heard so much about). Do not ask for Fosters.

  371. Mark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Find yourself a pantomine to go to one evening and enjoy traditional british christmas entertainment

    http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/browse?category=231&root=10003

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantomime

  372. Power and wireless by hendersj · · Score: 1

    I've preferred the multi-country plugs myself; they're a bit more expensive, but I haven't had a problem with them falling apart, either. Got one I've had for years that I still use.

    If the power brick for your laptop can handle the voltage and frequency (and most can, but check the label), you won't need a new power brick.

    There's no such thing as region coding for wireless networks - the Thinkpad that I had on my first trip to the UK and the Dell I had for my second both worked without any changes other than setting the SSID - just like you would on any wireless network anywhere in the world. The only thing you might have to use region coding for is watching DVDs on your laptop that you purchase overseas - there are plenty of OSS solutions that don't require you to change the region coding on the laptop drive, either, though.

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  373. hostels / get out of London by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you're travelling by yourself, then consider staying in hostels for at least part of your trip. Do a search at some of the popular hostel sites (hostel world or hostels.com, etc).. they'll show you which one have free Wifi (many do - so consider taking your laptop), luggage lockers (especially useful if taking your laptop). Read the reviews of other travellers, and pick one that you think you'd like. The benefit of staying in hostels is that you get to meet lots of other travellers - which can be a great source of information when you're travelling in a new place - some of them will have already been there for a little while, and most are willing to share what they've learnt. Relax, be polite and friendly, and enjoy meeting some new people (yes, it can be a little scary for some of us, but fun all the same).

    If you only have a short time, then fine - stay in London, but if you have more than a week, I'd strongly suggest getting out of London and visiting some small towns. A lot of the smaller towns have a lot more character. Do a search for "B&B"s (Bed-and-Breakfast accomdation).

    While in London, definately get yourself an Oyster card (as others have suggested) - you can pick one up at the Tube station in Heathrow, which is probably the best way into London from the airport.

  374. some easy tips by itzdandy · · Score: 1

    I have done a lot of solo and group trips to France, the UK, and Denmark. Here are my tips.

    1) Get a netbook with wifi. Laptops are too big to carry all the time while a netbook is about perfect. I have a dell mini 9. If you cant, then just dont bring a laptop. Its not that important. get more photo storage.
    2) Get a power adapter for your gear before leaving.
    3) Get a passport/cash wallet than you can hang around your neck and put inside your shirt. The truth is that if you can be spotted as a tourist you can become a target. Put 10 pounds (thats money) in your back pocket in case you have to dump some cash and run. I have had this happen and was glad to loose 10 pounds and not find out how serious the guys were.
    4) Consider staying at hostels. Many people will try to save some cash and sleep in hostels but I like them for the social scene. You can meet up in the morning with fellow travelers and get tips for the day and you can chat through the night about what they saw and get some good ideas for the next day.
    5) Identify Irish pubs with kitchens close to your hotel/hostel. I find that the Irish pubs (Hightly recommend the Claddagh Ring in Hendon http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=72570195125 (the hostel in Hendon is good as well) have a good plate of food that you can chow down on happily.
    6) Get a day pass for the underground/city transportation and dont mess with single trip payments unless you are really planning on a single ride to and from your destination.
    7) Good shoes. Dont buy new shoes just before the trip. Get some good walking or running shoes and wear them for a month. Check styles in Europe and pick something that fits in a bit yet looks reasonable to you.
    8) Ditch the baseball cap and consider dressing nicer than t-shirt and jeans. You might actually pass as a european tourist instead of an american tourist. dont be affraid of slacks and a nice shirt.
    9) Dont try to fake an accent in a pub(or anywhere really). Had a buddy that tried it, it cost him 4 beers :)
    10) take 2 german girls up on anything they invite you to do with them. seriously. good times. pack 'protection' if you are single (as in batchelor)
    11) consider that you dont want to site and wait for many MB of pictures to upload on slow hotel or hostel internet connections. Buy more memory cards. You can buy a 2GB memory card for the price of one upload session at an internet cafe. I travel with a bunch of sd-cards (canon T1i and an sd1100) and I just pop out an sd-card and put it with my passport and pop a new one in.
    12) Shave. Just do it. If you go to a pub or a disco-tek or something you will fit in better.

    IMPORTANT
    12) Bring your own batteries! there is a big counterfeit battery scam and if you dont know where to buy good batteries you are in trouble. Bring a charger and a spare battery pack for your camera(s) and other battery operated gear.
    13) travel light. you want to be able to carry as much with you as possible. Jeans are good for 3 days. wear lightweight undershirts so you can re-wear your outer shirt twice. for a 6 day trip I would pack 2 jeans, 3 shirts, 6 undershirts, 7 underwear, and 7 pair of socks. That should fit in a backpack nicely.
    14) CARRY ON YOUR BAG. If you cant carry your main bag with you, make sure you have 2 days worth of clothes (2 underwear, 2 socks, 2 undershirts) in your carry on. You can survive on this if you must. I have had to make 7 days on that setup and wash my clothes in the sink. Sounds like a rough situation but it was somewhat rewarding in its own way.

    So, be careful in planning your baggage and keeping your money and budget on track. once that is done, do the rest of the trip unscripted. simply put together a list of must sees, wants, maybees and then hit them in whatever order works. you will find that this list can morph quickly once you realize that Hyde Park and Kensington is a 1 hour deal instead of 4 you ca

  375. Just got back from London myself! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, are you in luck! Myself and my boyfriend just went in September for SVP's 69th annual meeting in Bristol, and we're the most geeky people we know - save my roommate. We spent a week in London and another week in a small village near Bristol, called Backwell. By the way, if you do end up in Backwell, stay at the Backwell Coach House - it's slightly more expensive than staying at a Day's Inn, but you're right near a major bus and train line, and you have a complete kitchen of your own - all within walking distance of the local supermarket and holy-freaking-crap-its-good take-out dining.

    The boyfriend decided last minute to bring his G4 MacBook with us to offload pictures - and let me tell you, that was a stroke of freaking genius. All in all, I took over 2000 photographs the 2 weeks we were in the UK - far more than my sad little 512 MB memory card could handle). The wireless card region codes don't seem to matter (at least on a Mac, but I saw several other American paleo-geeks at the meeting with Windows-based laptops). Places like McDonalds have free wi-fi if you buy something - as does a little chain coffee shop called Caffe' Nero (best hot chocolate on earth - hands down).

    As far as plug-ins go, there was a place around Paddington called Maplin that really knew their stuff and were pretty reasonable - I think it was 3 pounds for a cable that plugged into the power supply that was UK compliant. We stayed at a hostel in Paddington called The Green Man Pub or BestPlace - free continental breakfast of cereal, tea, toast, and jam, with laundry facilities on site. We opted for the 2-bunk room. The view is not that great, but you're literally down the street from Paddington Tube Station. Can't beat that. Oh yeah, GET. AN. OYSTER. CARD. Best way to get around town is by bus or tube, both of which take the Oyster cards.

    One warning - in some place such as the British Natural History Museum, you are not allowed to plug anything into their wall sockets unless your device has been tested by the museum curators to make sure you won't trip a breaker. Silly, but understandable. No such problem at the Imperial War Museum (OMG GUNS!!!111), but it's something to keep in mind.

    If you stay in Paddington, you're not that far from Hyde Park. Beautifully sculpted countryside with fat, complacent birds of many kinds, several hidden gardens, and the best part, the Princess Diana Memorial fountain. It's a meandering, circular fountain that you can soak your feet in - the brisk water feels WONDERFUL on your feet after a day of walking. Kensington is right near by as well, and the Italian Fountains, which are wonderful, if not smelly. Seriously - they need to drop some algae-eating plecos down there to thin the forest.

    Some of the best dining in town is down the road from The Green Man - although the English breakfast they served there is top notch. Swanky Indian restaurants aside (the Ganges), pub fare was really the way to go - most of the pubs we ended up at were reasonably priced and clean with generous portions (it's considered bad form to ask for a doggie bag, but English food portions tend to be smaller than American anyway). The chain food places tend to be a bit pricey, and you can't get away from Starbucks or Pizza Hut. We tried.

    Expect to do a lot of walking - the sheer scale of London is staggering, and there is stuff to see everywhere. The place BLEEDS history. You really should look into getting a pair of Keen shoes if you don't have them already. They make a damn sturdy sandal - and they come in a variety of styles, including hiking boot. As far as the British Museum goes, expect to dedicate more than a day to that place - it's immense, and the personal collection of King George III takes up at least 2 wings of the museum. We unfortunately only had an afternoon and only barely scratched the surface...

    Another place to consider is Sir John Soane's museum - it's near the Natural History museum. It's the showcase home of the designer of the Bank of London and i

  376. things to do by TechBCEternity · · Score: 1

    1. go on walking tours so you can see all the side streets and stuff. http://www.walks.com/
    2. there's a huge geek community, check out http://www.geekery.in/london/ http://upcoming.yahoo.com/place/.2P4je.dBZgMyQ--
    3. museums are free, check out the imperial war museum, V&A, british museum
    4. starbucks has a deal where you can get wifi with the purchase of a starbucks gift card, pub often have wifi access too
    5. use http://www.famouslocations.com/ to find spots from different films (just realized the filmed part of eyes wide shut 6.outside my place... creepy)
    6. eat indian food, brick lane is famous for it.

  377. Re:As somebody who moved Toronto to London recentl by xaxa · · Score: 1

    the benefit to being able to check google maps and the TFL

    You can also call 020 7222 1234 and ask someone how to get somewhere (that's a normal London phone number). I think they just run the online journey planner for you. This is useful at night if you've missed the last train and there isn't a direct bus home, but it's busy just after the pubs shut (and again just when the clubs shut) so you'll be on hold for ages at these times.

  378. yes its easy by public transport by fantomas · · Score: 1

    (disclaimer - I live in Milton Keynes next to Bletchley and have been to BP on many occasions).

    Bletchley Park is easy to get to by public transport, it is 100 metres walk from Bletchley train station. This is on the Northampton line from London Euston. trains every half an hour from London, from about 06.00 to 24.00, they take about 50 minutes. Look for trains for Northampton, usually on Platforms 8/9/10/11 from Euston. About 15 or 20 pounds day return (sorry, our train service is very over priced).

  379. Some advice.... by Cassiel1137 · · Score: 1

    LOL! Just as soon as I saw the heading, I could literally feel all my countrymen desperate to start teasing - it was just too good an opportunity! Some advice, Oxford/Cambridge very nice but LOTS to do in London.... West End mentioned previously and I agree 100%. Check out Oxford Street/Marble Arch (don't bother with buses, too slow just walk) and Soho/Carnaby Street. Regent Street (off of Oxford Street) good for high end shopping, Tottenham Court Road (at end of Ox St, other end to Marble Arch) is good for tech, though not nearly as popular now because internet often cheaper. Covent Garden also good, but very touristy. Piccadilly Circus/Leicester Square not as found of, these VERY touristy and you also get all the chavs (don’t worry, you’ll learn this word when you visit!) coming down on night out from suburbs. TIP: DO NOT EVER miss-pronounce Leicester Square as ‘Lie-chester’. It is pronounced ‘Lest-er’ – you WILL intensely annoy any Brits in earshot if you do this. Learn the tube (underground train network) – best way to get around on a budget. DO NOT strike up conversations with people on public transport – you WILL píss them off doing that. Do not refer to anyone Scottish you meet as ‘English’ – that’s a good way to get punched in the face. Check out The Tate. Avoid South London. Try not to confuse speaking and shouting – the American voice/accent does have a tendency to, ahem, ‘carry’ shall we say. Check out ‘toptable.com’ for good restaurants in London. Make sure you have a curry at least once here – Brick Lane is good (a little way out from West End area, but more authentic). Above all, the best advise I can offer (through also the hardest to quantify!) is just try to not be too annoying. I hate to break it to you, but recognise that American tourists don’t exactly have the best rep in London, or indeed the, em, rest of world..